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Speaker 1: I've been grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to

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Speaker 1: another edition of Club Sha Shay. I am your whole.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp, also the proprid of Club Sha Shade, the

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Speaker 1: guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today,

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Speaker 1: is a three time Special Teams Player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: He's three time First Team All Pro, made four Pro Bowls.

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Speaker 1: He's also a member of the two thousands and two

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Speaker 1: Anniversary Teams, which means he's one of the hundred greatest

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Speaker 1: University of Miami Sports Hall of Famer Herric Ain't Hester anytime.

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Speaker 1: The Windy City Flyer Devin Hester, Dad, what's up? Brouh.

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Speaker 1: What's up, baby, man, I'm hanging in there. How about yourself? Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm great man. All I mean when you hear me

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Speaker 1: reading out our special teams in the All Pro, in

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Speaker 1: the All Decades two times, they're not very many of

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Speaker 1: those guys, A hundredth anniversary team. When you hear all

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Speaker 1: be honest. A great career by a football player, you know,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations on being nominated in your first year of eligibility

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Speaker 1: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What would it

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Speaker 1: son that we're just not talking about an award that

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Speaker 1: To open all doors for the younger ones coming up,

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Speaker 1: but not only for myself, but to put a chair

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Speaker 1: football heaven, it's football mecca. That's where all the grades go.

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Speaker 1: That's their finals, that's their final accolade, that's their final accomplishment.

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Speaker 1: That's the as you mentioned the cherry on the top.

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Speaker 1: There is no greater than that. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, there is no They're only they're less

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Speaker 1: four hundred gold jackets. Right. That's that's that's a lot, man,

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Speaker 1: But he can't brought it to my atensions, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we want to move it up, right. Is that that's

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Speaker 1: When teams did kicking me, the ratio was every three

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Speaker 1: You gotta really I had like seven eight returns called back.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the fat boy lead upon it

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Speaker 1: You can't get Okay, who is right? So you see?

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Speaker 1: Forget that hanging it up there for four or five seconds. No,

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Speaker 1: definitely matter. You know, we even made commercials I'm kicking

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Speaker 1: The day I was averaging forty eight yards of punt.

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Speaker 1: so the returner you could play DV In college, you

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Speaker 1: brought that tell my attention the minute they start kicking

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00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: away from him, and he was like, devn to be

425
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: honest with you, man, you're probably and it got to

426
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 1: be in the top two, top three more dynamic player

427
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: with the ball in your hand in the National Football League.

428
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: Right now, teams are kicking it out of bounds. I

429
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: gotta find a way to get the ball in your hands.

430
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 1: So the only way I could do that to move

431
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 1: you over the offense. Right. And that's why I gotta

432
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: moved over the offense because the punters and the team

433
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: started kicking the ball to me. They would have kept

434
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: kicking to me, I'd have just been I would probably

435
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 1: stay at corner and been playing straight turn kick off

436
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: turn right. But it also helped the contract because you said,

437
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm not just the returner. You know, I'm on the

438
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: offense too, And I say, hey, y'all, hey, y'all need

439
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: to factor that into that contract. Also, that's when I

440
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 1: got that contract when they moved over to the offense.

441
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 1: Let's go back to you. Let's go up back to

442
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: you your younger years. You grew up in Florida. You

443
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: lost your father the cancer, your mom was seriously injured

444
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: an automobile accident. So what football was forced an outlet

445
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: for you to deal with the pain and the trauma

446
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: that you were going through as a as as a

447
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: young man, I would say, so man like to be honest,

448
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I got attached to a guy named by the name

449
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: of mister Thompson at first, which was he worked at

450
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: the Boys Grid Club. Okay, what's the girl close? Was

451
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: it literally right across the street from me? Okay? They

452
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: knew our situation, right, So they knew my situation with

453
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: my mom, they knew my father passed when I was y'all,

454
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: So we didn't have to pay to go so right,

455
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: we just jumped the gate and we just blend in

456
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: with the rest of the kids, and so we played

457
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: football and all that from the moment we got out

458
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: of school to the time to go to sleep. You know.

459
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: So the passion of football man in the neighborhood I

460
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: grew up in, that's all we did, right. That's also

461
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 1: that's all I knew was football, football, and all we

462
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: did football, played football, and when I signed a flip

463
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: backflips and all the type of stuff. Right. So, obviously

464
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: you're a great high school player, you get an opportunity

465
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: to go to the U. I'm sure you had other opportunities.

466
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: What made you decide to go to the University of Miami, man,

467
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people that was in my situation where

468
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: your mama made you go, my mama made you go

469
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: to my you go to me. It was a couple

470
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: of schools I wanted to go to, but my mom

471
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, listen here, we ain't got no money for

472
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: no flights. We ain't got no money for no no traveling.

473
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: And then plus, my brother played at FIU, right, so

474
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: FIU was like a ten minute drive from our campus,

475
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: so we was able to be close to each other. Mean,

476
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: my brothers, they would be close to each other. And

477
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: then you know, at the same time, there was a

478
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: winning program and like I said, it was ranking the

479
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: top three, top four in the nation. So at the

480
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, it was it was a

481
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: great decision. I feel that, you know, me being close

482
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: to home and being close to everybody. So that was

483
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: the reason why I went to the youth. You said,

484
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: there are other schools that you wanted to go to.

485
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 1: What were some of the schools that Devin Hester wanted

486
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: to go to. Wanted to a teen, I wanted to

487
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: go to either and she stayed. At the time, they

488
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 1: had Philip Rivers, right, and they look at the time,

489
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: they're ranked like in the top fourteen, fifteen in the nation.

490
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: And I knew I was gonna come in right there

491
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: and play right away, right. I knew that, you know

492
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. That was It wasn't it wasn't a

493
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: thought about that, you know, going to like miam and

494
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, with those types of g

495
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to sit out of here. It ain't

496
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: number five star players in that locker room, you know

497
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: what I mean. So to go to a top fifteen

498
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 1: ranked team and they just lost a position that you

499
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: coming in and feeling and be that man guy. And

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: they already told me listen, you can't hear your brother coming.

501
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: We got all good. So I wanted to go to

502
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to the NC State that was

503
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: my number one school, but at in Miami, and Miami

504
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: offered me like when I was a freshman in high

505
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: school man. So I felt like I had to kind

506
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: of be lord to those guys. And I had a

507
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: cousin that played for him too, so it was in

508
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: my blood to go that ure. There was a story

509
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: and you can expand on this, that you had to

510
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: sit out in the first year at the University of

511
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Miami because they believe you didn't take the SAT tell

512
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: the story. So that story went down like you know,

513
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: like when you start getting notarized, right you okay? You

514
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: that that that athlete that I said, oh wow, this

515
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: kid here got potention. Right, They started making early You

516
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna wait till your senior year, right, So I started

517
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: doing the purple of my sophomore year, took the test

518
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: my junior year, right, Ye, gotta school qualified, defa, everything qualified.

519
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: So my whole senior now I had to do on

520
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: my DF all my test scores and everything was done.

521
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I didn't remember abody taking I didn't take no SAT

522
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: or nothing. My whole senior I got my test scores

523
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: back and everything. So if you if your SAT get questions,

524
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all know that, but your SAT

525
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: score get questions, you do not get it back. Right.

526
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: They seen you're letting them and say we found some

527
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: specious things going on. We want you to retake it.

528
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: I got my SAT scores back, right, So my whole

529
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: senior year I was qualified dpay with like a three

530
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: point one, three point my three point two, so I

531
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: was good. Just no, no, no where about no school

532
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: or that. So on my college visit, I don't know

533
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: if you know that story, but only school and then

534
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 1: offers scholarship with sc That's the only school I never

535
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I got, never got a four right, everybody else I

536
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: could have went to. Right. So I went on the

537
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: college visit and one of the coaches wanted me real bad.

538
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: So I promised him I would take a visit. You know,

539
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: if you get five visits, So I promise I would

540
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: take a visit there, you know, and visit him and

541
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: really get him a shot, because he really was trying

542
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: hard to get me. And then when that time got

543
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: close to the announced where I was going. I said, coach,

544
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: you know I say, I had all the recruiters, you

545
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You was the one that was done, really,

546
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: really working hard to get me. I appreciate your situation

547
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: and what you were trying to do, but I'm gonna

548
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: go ahead and sign with University of Mine. So he

549
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: got up set. He started calling my phone every every

550
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: two hours, going off. So I said, you know this

551
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: is getting out of hand. I'm gonna let you deal

552
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: with my parents because at first I was dealing when

553
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: I ain't telling my mama, but I was dealing with him,

554
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: and so I said, you know what, I'm gonna go

555
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: ahead and let my mama deal this this. So my

556
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: mama got the phone and she went off on him,

557
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: and he called one more time. I answer the phone.

558
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: He said, you know what, if you don't come here,

559
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: I promise you you would never see it down in

560
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: football in your life. So that's when I said, now

561
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: you're threatening me. So I hung upon on them. We

562
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: blocked their phone. Them all that I get to the

563
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: Universe of Minami, I have to sign them with him.

564
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: I check in the doing room everything, I'm good everything.

565
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: The next day for a practice, my counsel. Come to me.

566
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: He said, Davin, we got a problem. I said, what's

567
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: going on? He said, some some lik some stuff going

568
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: on with the NCUBA about you. It's nothing you should

569
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: have to everybody now you're good. And so they when

570
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: I got down there, we got on the phone with

571
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: the NCAA. They said there's been something some phone calls

572
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: about course in your SAT scores. And I said, okay, well,

573
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: what's the problem. They said, with your answers man, somebody

574
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: that's sitting besides the answers. And I said, well, what

575
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: did they get? And they had like a I think

576
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: they scored like a eight eighty. I said, what did

577
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: I get? I think I scored like a nine seventy? Right,

578
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: So I said, who we're cheating on? Who paper there?

579
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: If he scored at eight eight to nine seventy, my

580
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: score is high in here. Who who y'all think cheating?

581
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: They said, they feel like you're achieved. So it was

582
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: up to universe and Miami to say, you know what,

583
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna disregard that. And because it was up to

584
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: the universe of mine and said we gonna set these

585
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: scores well or not or not? Because right now y'all

586
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: don't have no proven fact. So Miami was at the

587
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: point where they when they went to the national championship

588
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: in Ohio State and they lost in Ohio States. So

589
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: if I would have played that year and they would

590
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: have kept investigating, if they would have found something that

591
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: was out of the ordinary, Miami would have been suspended.

592
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: So Miami said, you know what, we can take a

593
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: risk of to let you play and then week six

594
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: or seven they come back and say it's not right,

595
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: or we can sit you on and they just come

596
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: back the next year and play. And so when that happened,

597
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of teams like, listen, we we

598
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: got ready done into that. That situation, We're ready to

599
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: take it. It's nothing they can do about that situation.

600
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Getual scores, you score high in that person, there's nothing

601
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: they can do about it. But Miami saying, no, we're

602
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. And then they was like, and

603
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I told him about the situation, and they were like,

604
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: listen that we just got too much lose. I will

605
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: promise you this if you if you if you just

606
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: have faith in us next year and you come in,

607
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: we would not get the jersey away. So they set

608
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: my jersey and number four up because everybody was trying

609
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: to get it. They said, no, we're not gonna hand

610
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: out in jersey, gonna show him that we were law

611
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: and we'll bring him in next year. And that's what happened.

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: So that was you believe that that coach at the

613
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: the recruit at the universe at USC. You believe he

614
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: had something to do with this. No, not not USC,

615
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: because USC then recruiting. Okay, USC, they were USC. It

616
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: was the only school that then offer middle fort scholarship

617
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: at all the colleges was on the school. But it

618
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: was a college that I was, you know, getting recruited back.

619
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Don't you don't you don't want to reveal that college.

620
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: You've been saying that you ye, yeah, I'm good. I'm

621
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: just gonna let that go. I did. I went. My

622
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: first time I touched the ball of orange bowl, I

623
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: took it nine to two yards back for a touchdown. Right.

624
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: I took my helm and off stairs in the camera. Right.

625
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: I just wanted him look me in my faith. That's all.

626
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: That's why I did that. If you if you go

627
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: back my first time touching the ball in the orange

628
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: I took a ninety two yards kick off back to

629
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: open a kick off of the game. I took my

630
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: home and all going in, hands on, looking at looking

631
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: at the camera, stared at him just so he can

632
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: see my faith. That's how I got him back though.

633
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: So we're good now. You didn't play you in tire

634
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: for you? Didn't you? So you weren't allowed to practice?

635
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Were you allowed to meet? Were you allowed to go

636
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: into cafeteria with the play? How did you stay in shape?

637
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: So basically you were like a regular college student. I

638
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: didn't even go to school. I didn't go to school. Man.

639
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: I went home. Wow, I went home. I went home. Man,

640
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Listen that that drive home, Man felt like I was

641
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: getting sentenced to fifteen to twenty years in prison. Man,

642
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: right Like it was like my whole life was just gone.

643
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: And it was like it ain't nothing I can do

644
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: about it. Man. When I pulled out to my driveway,

645
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: Man and looked at the front door and just thought

646
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: about it, Like, Man, everybody that comes from this error,

647
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: if you don't go to college, Man, you know what

648
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen to you. You feelna get caught up, right,

649
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: you FeelA get caught up? Man? And you're looking at

650
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: that though, I say, boy, it's over for me. So

651
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I literally like, I literally like when I got in

652
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: that when I once I walked through that dough man,

653
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: I went to my room, closed the door. I don't

654
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: think I ate. I don't think I ate or slept

655
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: for like two or three weeks straight. I didn't not

656
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: come out the room for a whole month. My Mama

657
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: made me. She like, damn, you gotta get up, man,

658
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: you gotta get up. Baby. You can't do this, You

659
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: cannot do this. You gotta fight, man, like I live.

660
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: I stayed in the room for two three weeks straight

661
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: without eating and then come out of the room for

662
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: a whole month. I was sick, man like, everything I

663
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: worked for got taken away. Just don't like that that easy, right,

664
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I would hurt him, man. So mom said, damn, you

665
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: gotta you can't give up. You gotta fight. So once

666
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: she tells you that, not what's going, what's what's your

667
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: thought process? I gotta train. I gotta make sure that

668
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: when I go back, I'm in shape. I'm ready to

669
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: go to say let them know that I haven't been

670
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: just sitting around. Right. So what happened was my mom

671
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: called the high my high school coach and was like, man,

672
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: y'all gotta find something for them to do till the

673
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: time for them go back. So my coach, man, he

674
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, listen, we need to work. You say, brain,

675
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: you show I kept everything. Brain, you showed up fast

676
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: and you have him and and come practice with did

677
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: you give us work? And why are you giving another works?

678
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna get to keep yourself in shape. So I

679
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: started going back to my high school and being on

680
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: the scout team to make those guys better. Man. And

681
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I only did I make them better, I was able

682
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: to stay in shape, right, And that's I really stayed

683
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: in shape. Man. I went back to high school, Man,

684
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: I have to graduate, and went back practicing with him

685
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: being on the scout team. Man, so what's the best

686
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: feeling part? Return? Touchdown, kick return touchdown, interception, rushing touchdown,

687
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: receiving touchdown. I said, Devin helps you. This this is

688
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: what you this is this one. You have one of

689
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: these today? Which one you want? Return and touchdown? That's

690
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: your that's your that's your bag. Then returned TV. Yeah,

691
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: punt return to that man, because you know and said

692
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: you pick pick picking in round twelve thirteen yards and

693
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: the end of the return man you a in the

694
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere by yourself, and when that ball get

695
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: in your hands, other people around you, and when you

696
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: come up out that hole and you hit that sideline,

697
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: And then you showed them folks how you really fast

698
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: you will and you open up while somebody's sitting up

699
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: in the hot span and they see how fast you

700
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: really run it. Oh yeah, that's what I like to show.

701
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: You told the story earlier about how you didn't get

702
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: an opportunity to play much your junior year on the

703
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: defensive side of football. You're mainly a returner because the

704
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: coach didn't like some of the things that it transpired

705
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: your siphomore year with the accolades that you had start

706
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: you had started to receive. So you make the decision

707
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: that you're gonna come out. You go to the combine,

708
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: you run four for it and some Nike Air Max

709
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and you pull a hamstring. You're like, damn, all the

710
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: things that could have happened. I didn't really play, didn't

711
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: really played the I didn't play at all on the

712
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: defensive side of football, And now here I am at

713
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: the combine and I pull up. No, no, I put,

714
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: I pulled up. I had a port hand strength going

715
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: into the Okay. So that's why I wasn't supposed to run.

716
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: That's why I didn't Brandon Cleach because I want to

717
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: him that, you know, my proteins in two weeks, man,

718
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: I just tweaked my hamming. Man, I'm not ready to run.

719
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 1: And when I got him aboard the press conference and

720
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, we had I had my interview with all

721
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: the teams, and the biggest thing with me, what is

722
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: he gonna running? Afford it. That was my biggest That

723
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: was everybody wanted to really see me going into the

724
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: draft was how fast this was? This kid is really is.

725
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: And so when I told him I wasn't running at

726
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: the combine, boy got so quiet in there. Yeah, like,

727
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,439
Speaker 1: but it's not it's not good news. So after leaving

728
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: the first conference, my agent blowing me up. He say, listen, man,

729
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what she's gonna do, but listen, these

730
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: folks want to see you run. Man. I don't I know,

731
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know how bad it is, but listen, just

732
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: do it. Trying to say you know what, all right,

733
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm anout to just come out, come out slow,

734
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: and just roll into it right. And that's what I did.

735
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I came out slow and rolled into it and just

736
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: try to kick it at the end, and I end

737
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: run like a four four flat. And then two weeks

738
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: later I end up run a full two sign at

739
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: the poll day. So I was able to make it up.

740
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: So if you if you had runned the combine and

741
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Devin Health is fully healthy, how fast do you believe

742
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you ran that forty that day? Oh? Any beautiful two?

743
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: Any beautiful too? So if I take that, if I

744
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: take Devin Health to Addive Prime, and I take Tyreek

745
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Addive Prime, who went in the party? Man? Tyreek ran

746
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: with a full three side? Tyreek is a track guy. Yeah,

747
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: your track guy? Right? I got four on football speed.

748
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: I ain't. I ain't gonna watch. I ain't no track guy.

749
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: But forty yard day, yeah, man, listen, man, I ran

750
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the fastest ten yards split. Ain't miam in history. I

751
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: ran on one three four in a ten yard my

752
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: freshman year. Bro. They would not tell me my time

753
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: and afforded because they said I was too young. I

754
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: DJ William If you know DJ William, ye will getting

755
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: Clark running Florida. They told me the time that I

756
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: ran was never ran as a true friendly, so they

757
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,959
Speaker 1: did not tell me what my time would I would

758
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: run a foll three threes at a sophomore in high

759
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: school at the night he camp, man, I knew I

760
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: would have ran every foll two. So you believe, So

761
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: you believe in your prime you'd beat Tyreek and the party. Yeah,

762
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, that a number right there. Oh yeah, man,

763
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: very bud of full two. Man. So you get to

764
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: the league, obviously you wish you'd had the situation now

765
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: where you could have had any number you walked through

766
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: one through forty nine, because you'd have had number four

767
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: and the Chicago number. Yeah, oh yeah, I was gonna

768
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: get that, folle. So you're you're touching your TV celebration

769
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: one goes into a devil because you did a lot

770
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: of the celebrations you did with d was the imitation

771
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: of d On. What made what made you decide to

772
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: do that day and time with Dion sand went to

773
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: Florida State, Uh, the seminars, you go to Florida, you

774
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: you got had some some serious right that was a

775
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: serious rival back in from the eighties to the nineties,

776
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: and said, y'all don't even really play each other. Both

777
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: teams are falling on hard times now, So what made

778
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: you decide to do that celebration? Man? Did like, at

779
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like true Florida football players,

780
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: we should respect the old js that that played a

781
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: game right with Okay, So Dan was a person that

782
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: was from Florida that everybody respected, regardless of what team

783
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: you went to. Dan actually started mentoring me when I

784
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: was in college, Okay. You know, like we was texting

785
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: back and forth when I was in college as a mentor,

786
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So this wasn't something that

787
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: that happened once I got in the league. Right, my

788
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: first part one first down, I was hot stepping. So

789
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: this is my favorite player from from part one, you

790
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was only you know,

791
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: the only fail for me to continue to do it, man,

792
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: because that's why I that's why I wanted to be

793
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: growing up. Obviously, you go to the Bears your rookie year,

794
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: they have an outstanding season, end up going to the

795
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Did you when you're on that team and

796
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: you're in training camp and you're going to this through

797
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: the season, did you think you guys had the Super

798
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team. I would say we when we start

799
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: feeling like that had to be like week eight, eight

800
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: to nine, I think we had. We We went in

801
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: like Week eight or nine, were like eight on one,

802
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: like we were rolling defense. I never seen the NFL

803
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: where at half time to start defense and take out

804
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: the shoulder pat and it's a regular season game right now,

805
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: preseason I had a regular season game and you putting

806
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: up forty eight fourty eight points on the team, four

807
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: to eight zero, and at halftime you're taking all your

808
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: shoulder pat. You knew you had sons special? Did Were

809
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: you surprised that coach Dunge kicked actually kicked you the

810
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: ball in the super knowing what you had done in

811
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: the regular season, where you like, I know, I know, good, well,

812
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: they just didn't kick me this ball. I think it

813
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: was a pride thing with that situation. I think they

814
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: were just pride for you know it because it was

815
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: in the paper all week. You know, we read papers

816
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: a lot about what team's gonna do as far as

817
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: kicking the ball, because that was always the number one

818
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 1: key to success of being the Bears was kicking. Whether

819
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna do what they're gonna kick him or not.

820
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: So we read the papers the whole week, and you know,

821
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: like one day they said they're doing it, then the

822
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: next day they say they decided not. So they didn't

823
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: have a good day and pride on a special team.

824
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 1: So lean up to the to the game. I'm apparently

825
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: coach Doney got a locker room and the players told

826
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: him that, you know what I mean, if we don't

827
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: kick it to him, you just we don't kick it

828
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: to them. You're just telling us that you don't have

829
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: faith in us. So they put his back against he

830
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: didn't have Yeah, they asked him. I appreciate it though,

831
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: but after that I appreciate after that they didn't kick

832
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: it to you again, No move man, So you get

833
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: to open and kickoff, you take it back? What's going

834
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: through your mind? You're like, you not only we win

835
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: this game, I'm gonna be the MVP. I just took

836
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: the open the kickoff back. That ain't happened about because

837
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, once you get that first with early, you're

838
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: thinking I might get two any things, I might get

839
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: three any thing. But listen, I hadn't got to the

840
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: sideline and the little media to do it I say,

841
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: how much it? Didn't you paying for the MVP, I'll

842
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: get ready to go to be the real said, hey,

843
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: I started, I want they're paying for the MVP. So

844
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden they start kicking the ball away.

845
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: So when team will start kicking the ball away, did

846
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: you get frustrated? How did you remain composed? How did

847
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: you make it like well and not forced it? Because

848
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: a lot of times guys try to do too much.

849
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: You see, all of a sudden, they start they don't

850
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: punt the ball tea, they don't kick the ball to you,

851
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, in a situation where

852
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: you should fair catch it or you shouldn't let the

853
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: ball go into the end zone, you start the press

854
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: trying to do too much. Yeah I did. I went

855
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: through that phase where I started doing that and I

856
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: cast like one or two fumbles, one or two turnovers,

857
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And then I got pulled

858
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: to the side of my coach. I'm like, listen, man,

859
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: you gotta take what they give you. You cannot force

860
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: nothing NFL, because you're gonna cause us to lose a game.

861
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: And it was hard for me because I'm used to

862
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: you know what, I mean these kick out the points man,

863
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: and then all the sudden you know what I mean,

864
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: you should take back a game. I go in the

865
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: locker room after the game over the clean uniform on.

866
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: I ain't like that. I wanted to see some dirty

867
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: things on my pants. Man. So you end up transitioning

868
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: you doing something some wide receiver doing your full time duties.

869
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: How difficult was it or were you getting some wide

870
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: receiver because I'm assuming that on scout team you are

871
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, because you know that's the way normally works.

872
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: Guys that are not starters, they give their the show

873
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: team or what we call the scout team for the

874
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: starting offense or the starting defense. So did you, I'm

875
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: assuming that you played wide receiver or were you playing

876
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: defense on the scout team. Listen saying coach saying, you

877
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: gotta realize back in the day I was I was

878
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: Chicago secret weather. So scout team was a will be

879
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: getting hurt. So when they when that temper you know,

880
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm from Florida, So when that temperature dropped like fifty

881
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: degrees and the team warm up, I'm in the bubble

882
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: catching punts the whole price. What and when that whiston.

883
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: When that whistle blow, I come out there and we

884
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: break it up. Not going the locker room. That was

885
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: a problem. Hold man, what kind of job you asking?

886
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: How are you gonna how are you gonna be in

887
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: the bubble catching pumps? Then they called you out there

888
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: the catch punps. But when the special teams are up

889
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: and then you're in the locker room. But listen, but listen,

890
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: I was a secret weather back in the day. Listen,

891
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: it is true. Teen warm up, teen stretched it once

892
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: it hit fifty. Once they break it up. The individual

893
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: me and like two other little equipment ball guys, we're

894
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: going straight to the boat. And then he dare we cared?

895
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 1: I cared about two three hundred points shoot and then

896
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: I tell him, man, get listen, get my heads up

897
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: on fifteen man left over pray. They called, They called

898
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: on the water talking, hey, we got ten more minute left.

899
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: We started making our way back to the field. So

900
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: that was that. That was what you man. You So

901
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: that's why you were fresh your Sunday. You ain't doing that.

902
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: You ain't doing m a catch points and he kick

903
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: off in the bubble and then it ain't come Sunday.

904
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: Your legs super duper fresh Chris catching points and doing them.

905
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: Sit up man in the bubble. So Dad, you you mentioned,

906
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned your mom, and I think you said you

907
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: have you have two other brothers, right, I got one.

908
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: I got an older brother and younger sister. Your older brother,

909
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: younger sister. So you get this big contract obviously coming

910
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 1: from the situation. A lot of us professional athletes come

911
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: from very similar, very very similar situations. What was one

912
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: of the things that you say, you know, what, if

913
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: I ever get me some money, I'm gonna get this.

914
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: And when you got that money, you got back. Yeah. Shoot,

915
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: first thing I did I built my mom my house. Okay,

916
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: because I knew at the end of the day, but

917
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: it's all this money running out. I got someone, I

918
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: got someone. Yeah, yeah, you gotta get you gotta get mama. Granted.

919
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: Place I go where it's come to show up. I'm

920
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: going back there in that back room, granted is exactly Listen.

921
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: I built my mom my house, and I built a

922
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: special stair staircase stairway up to my room. I had.

923
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 1: I built the room just for me in that house,

924
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: just in case, just in case. What was your worst

925
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: What was the worst thing you like, you wanted it,

926
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: and then you're like you gotta eat Like, man, what

927
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: the hell was I think in getting this man a

928
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: mold of cycle. Hey, I don't nobody to know it,

929
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: but hey, listen, I got a motorcycle my second year

930
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: in the league. Man snug it. I headed the ground

931
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: me and to us teammates. Ain't gonna say no name

932
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: because I want to get nobody in trouble. But really

933
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: they can't do nothing right now because we ain't get

934
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: hurt of that. But I bought a motorcycle, man, And listen,

935
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: I used to set my along for like three o'clock

936
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: in the morning, straight to the highway. I was just

937
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: I was just drilling on man. I just love speed. Man,

938
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: you ad a motorcycle when you were young? Yeah, because

939
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: that's all we did in the neighborhood. I grew up

940
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: in there. All everybody had dirt bikes. Go God, car right,

941
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: I said, brother, get some money off and getting you

942
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: a dirt bike out motorcycle. Son, You mentioned that you

943
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: back to the field, you mentioned that, Lovey Lovey Smith,

944
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: your head coach at the time, said Davin, they're not

945
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: kicking the ball till you. We need to find a

946
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: way to make sure that you get an opportunity to

947
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: get the ball. So he says, you know what would

948
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: you be probably asking, like, would you be interested in

949
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: trying to get wide receiver? What was the most difficult thing, because,

950
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you were mainly just catching punts in

951
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: the bubble, catching kickoffs in the bubble, and then when

952
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: practice almost over, you go back out there. So one

953
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,479
Speaker 1: was the toughest part about transitioning because playing college wide

954
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: receiver is one thing. Playing wide receiver in the NFL

955
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: is a totally different ball game. It's totally different to PC.

956
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: People don't don't know that, Like if you haven't played

957
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: a game of football to you don't know how. You

958
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: just think you could just transition all of a sudden.

959
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: That's like Tea trying to trans tight in Like you

960
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: you gotta be you gotta be doing this stuffy Park

961
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: at least, right, you know what I mean? I played

962
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: no wide receiving in high school, Park and maybe two

963
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: games of college. That's all I played wid receivers. So

964
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: me going over to wire receiver was like me transferring

965
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: over to playing hockey. Had no clue with a lot

966
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: of right, you know what I mean? I ain't two

967
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: yards split outside. The number is what you run when

968
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: you line up, when you running curve up. These a

969
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: thing that people do. They learned this in high school.

970
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Like I had to learn the basics of wire receivers.

971
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: So me trying to do that at the highest level

972
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: of football, you know what I mean. I was out there.

973
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: My head was spinning, man, right, And then people don't

974
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: realize when I when I moved the wide receiver, I

975
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: went through like I like eight years. We had like

976
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: six new offensive coordinators, right, so I couldn't for me

977
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where to line up. The other

978
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: part I was learning the playboard, right, you know what

979
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the basics, because like I said, at the

980
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: eight years of the Chicago playing wide receiver, we had

981
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: like six different offensive coordinators. So every new offensive playboard

982
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: coming in, right, and you waiting behind the eight and guys,

983
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,959
Speaker 1: people don't understand it's a different game. They putting hands

984
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: on you in the NFL. They're not just letting you

985
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: run down the field now that you're not used to.

986
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: Are getting on press release and all that. Exactly know

987
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: what I mean. I was able to put a little

988
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: bit because of the speeding of the I end that

989
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: I had. But shoot, man, it was a it was

990
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: a nice dog fight for me out there. You want

991
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: to said, Jay Cutler is the worst leader you've ever

992
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: played with. Why would you say that? I would? I

993
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: think just because his leadership, you know what I mean.

994
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I had an interview with this earlier about about three

995
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: or four years ago. And what people didn't say. They

996
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: said what they wanted to say about the situation of

997
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: how the interview went, but they didn't say the part

998
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: where I said, to me, out of all the quarterbacks

999
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: I played with an experience being around, he to me,

1000
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: Jake Cutler had to He had knowledge of the game,

1001
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: was better than anybody. His own strength for the game

1002
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: was better than anybody. His accuracy was better than anybody

1003
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: ever played with. Like all the two athletic wi he

1004
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: was an athletic quarterback. People don't realize that Jake and Shake.

1005
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: Jay can run, Jay can played basketball, Jay can do

1006
00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: everything right. It just the leadership he lacked. And that's why,

1007
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know what I mean,

1008
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: people judge him off what he is right now because

1009
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: the leadership. He just didn't know how to associate with

1010
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: the player. He didn't bund everybody together and be that

1011
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: that leader that a quarterback is why when it comes

1012
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: to vocaland pick, you know, picking everybody's spirit up when

1013
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: they then down, or you need somebody, you know what

1014
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Like quarterback should be that guy that gives

1015
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: you confident, right, that's what he lacked. It seems to

1016
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: me from the outside looking in, and it might not

1017
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: be true, but he looked like a guy that didn't

1018
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 1: love the game of football. And if you don't, I'm

1019
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: sure there have been guys. But you got to fool them,

1020
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: those guys in the locker room that are around you

1021
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: every day. Dad, you know this. You can't fool them. Now.

1022
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,479
Speaker 1: They might can fool the media. They might can fool

1023
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: the fans, because the media only gives access to your

1024
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: thirty minutes a day. The fans only see you on

1025
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: television if they come to the stadium. But when you're

1026
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: around a guy nine ten hours a day, six seven

1027
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: days a week, three four or five ten years, that

1028
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: got the guys know you and you can't fool him.

1029
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: You can't fool them. You can't fool your teammates. You

1030
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: can fool a lot of other people, but you can't

1031
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: fool them. Yeah, I would say he didn't. Then I

1032
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: felt like he loved a game. But like I said,

1033
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how he was raised, but he's like

1034
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: he was. He's like staying dolfish, like he's like, what's

1035
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: the only kid in the house, you know what I mean,

1036
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 1: Like if you have kids, don't have We didn't have

1037
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: no friends. I don't know what it was, but he

1038
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: didn't never open up to nobody. But he made me

1039
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: like one two guys that he talked to and other

1040
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: that he singered out away from everybody, right, yeah, you

1041
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was hard, you know

1042
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: what I mean for a court for you know, offenses

1043
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: to listening and and buying them with him because he

1044
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: just kept himself away from everybody man and wasn't wasn't

1045
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: friendly about it. But his relationship. He knew Brandon Marshall

1046
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: from Denver and he threw Brandon a lot of balls

1047
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: when he was in Denver. Brandon comes to Chicago, he

1048
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: throws it me the marl balls. Did you feel that

1049
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: had some impact? Oh? Yeah, most definitely that that relationship

1050
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: they had, man, it was it was like they had

1051
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: a relationship where what I can say there was almost

1052
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: like brothers, you know what I mean. They he was

1053
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 1: Jay was used to Brandon Marshall. The type of ways

1054
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: he was. He was, I think they was. Jay was

1055
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 1: a little afraid of the Brandon. They were getting an

1056
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: arguments in practice, and Be Marshall wouldn't get a certain

1057
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: amount of balls in practice, and he would go off

1058
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: on Jay and they would sit there and argua back

1059
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: and forth and cause a big scene. It's crazy, man.

1060
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Julie Cover had a bet in practice one day, you know,

1061
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: because all I did at that time, I was just

1062
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: doing kick off a point return. So I'm gonna I'm

1063
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: on the defense sideline watching and I say, Julie's you

1064
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: want to make a bet? So he looked at you know,

1065
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: Julia kind of caught. He looked at what's ahead. I say, listen,

1066
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: if Jay Cutler throw Brandon and Marsha the ball. Because

1067
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: I already I seen him r before practice. I already

1068
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: knew what time with Jay was going him to ball.

1069
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: The whole part. I say, if Jay throw Be Marshall

1070
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: the ball, I give you one hundred dollars every time

1071
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: you're throwing the ball, right, No, I say you no, no, no, no,

1072
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: I said if he don't know, I say, Jude, if

1073
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: Jay throw Be Marsha the ball, you gotta give me

1074
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: fifted off. Right. If he don't thought it to be Marshall,

1075
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: I give you one hundred dollars. So now you got

1076
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: the upper hand. If you don't thought it to be Marshall,

1077
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you a hundred dollars. But every time

1078
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: you thought it to be Marshall, you gotta get me

1079
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 1: fifted out. He looked at me, said, Okay, I like that.

1080
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Bet bet the judging through it to be marshed over

1081
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: twenty times in a row. It got to the point

1082
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: where the whole like dawn, I said, Hight, the receiver

1083
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: to the other side, didn't even want a route. We

1084
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: just looking. He's just looking at me, Mark Be Marsha.

1085
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: Ain't even no saying go by. He thought to him

1086
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: this ten this is like really ten seconds, I ain't

1087
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: saying like, oh exaggerated right, jailed up, he covered he

1088
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: coming back to the mark like. It got to the

1089
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: point where we're looking at the coach like y'all really

1090
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: litting it go on, y'all gonna say anything, y'all just

1091
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna let this happen. Y'all just gonna let this happen.

1092
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: And it went one of the moment with him and

1093
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 1: Be Marshall got into it before Pride, and that's how

1094
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: practice went. So it's almost like B Marsha was doing

1095
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: that on purpose, getting getting argument, knowing that Jay's gonna

1096
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: feed him. He's gonna feed him. He's gonna feed him.

1097
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: You played with Matt Ryan, You went to Atlanta, played

1098
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, Julio. M What do you what do

1099
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: you think? What do you think of their combination? Played

1100
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: with Jay and B marsh Matt Ryan and Julio? What

1101
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: do you who had the better combination? I think I

1102
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: think Matt had the better combination with who are your cousin?

1103
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: The both of them that had that mentality where they

1104
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: had issues. Right be Marsha gaining man, he ain't getting

1105
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: certain amount of ball? Who do you want? F Hulo

1106
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: was fine as long as we win the game, you

1107
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I know sometimes I'm gonna get

1108
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: the Devin curved. I need some of the other receivers

1109
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: to eat so next game I can get get my shop. Right,

1110
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Be Marshall the type with I don't care if I

1111
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: get devil covered. You better throw me the ball right

1112
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: then Jay had hit it and the way he was

1113
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: and would just open itself up with people. And then

1114
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: Matt was a person. Matt Ryan was a person. He

1115
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: didn't give it them who who he threw the ball too.

1116
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take what the defense give me, right. So

1117
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: that's why when I got the Atlanta like shoot, I

1118
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: had to split rip RUPs with the slot receiver man

1119
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: and Harry Duckler was splitting ups and both of us

1120
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: had over six hundred yards that year. So Matt, if

1121
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: one of us would have just been playing, would have

1122
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 1: easily had over twelve hundred yards in the slot position

1123
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: the third se because he was the type of quarterfine,

1124
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna thought it to what they give me. So

1125
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: what do you think Hulio is gonna do? Obviously he's

1126
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: no longer in Atlanta. It was a big situation. He

1127
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: no longer wanted to be there. He felt well, he

1128
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: felt like they didn't want him there. They felt he

1129
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. What do you expect from

1130
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: Julio and Tennessee this year? It's hard to say, because

1131
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: you sit down and watch the game, you know what

1132
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean? And he I don't think he's getting them

1133
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: target like he was in Atlanta, you know what I mean.

1134
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:24,919
Speaker 1: And then you got your other receiver, JOANJ. Brown. He hurt.

1135
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: He hurt right now too. Man. So I was hoping

1136
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I thought that Julio was gonna get off this year,

1137
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: especially with him having there hearing them, they haven't. They

1138
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: They gotta drop that stop to stop that run, you

1139
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: gotta gotta start, You gotta stack the box with him

1140
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: and no, man, I mean like everybody's kind of disappointed

1141
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: and surprised about that situation over there. They just everybody

1142
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: thought both of them receivers gonna get off this year.

1143
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: Let's go to Chicago. The situation that they have going

1144
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: on now, they've been, they haven't been. They've gone to

1145
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs a couple of times, but they're not what

1146
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: we expect the Bearers to be. They got a situation

1147
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: where they signed Andy Dalton in free agency, they trade

1148
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: up the draft justin Fields, and they have a former

1149
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP on the roster and Nick Foles. How

1150
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: do you think they're handling this situation correctly? Who do

1151
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: you believe should be playing? Say it one more time?

1152
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Say it one more time. Look at

1153
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears situation, at the quarterback situation. You signed

1154
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in free agency in the offseason, you trade

1155
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: up in the draft to get Justin Fields. You also

1156
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: have a former Super Bowl MVP and Nick Foles on

1157
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: your roster. Now you're looking at the offensive line, it

1158
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: is a very good uh you got I like Robinson.

1159
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: I like Robinson, He's okay. You got tight end, got

1160
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, who's at the tail end of his career.

1161
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: You got gomet Is, who's a very good tight end.

1162
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 1: Of the three quarterbacks, who do you believe should be

1163
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: starting right now? Justin Fields, Andy Dalton or Nick Foles.

1164
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: It's tough, you know what I mean with that situation, man,

1165
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: because for one, you put too many quarterbacks on one pot,

1166
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You gotta pick one and

1167
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: then have the other one to be really really true

1168
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks right when you bring it, you bring a

1169
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that have potentially showed that they're they're starting

1170
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks in and then you move up and draft

1171
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: your first draft pick, a high draft pick in the quarterback.

1172
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: Right It's like putting a cat in the in the

1173
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: room with six pit boys, you know what I mean,

1174
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be pretty and that you know what I mean.

1175
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: So that situation that it caused a controversy, you know

1176
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: what I mean from the start, right, and so like

1177
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: now you have the fans that have their favorites, you

1178
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you go to a preseason

1179
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: and you get Nick Fole coming up and he thow

1180
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: a path to the running back and they want to

1181
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: see a pad down the fielding the running back catch

1182
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: ball and they stated bolling him, right, So how you

1183
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: think he feels, you know what I mean? And then

1184
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: you got daw and then you got the fans, which

1185
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: is a seemed like they love feel is better. Right. Now,

1186
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: as a coach, you don't really know what to do,

1187
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. To day you play, you

1188
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: throw feels enough against a defense that everybody said we're

1189
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: gonna rush rush him all game, right, and now he

1190
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: have a terrible game where he give a nine and

1191
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: a half sex and you know, at the end of

1192
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: the day, you know what I mean. Now, now you

1193
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: start like as a head coach, I don't want no

1194
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy, Like let that be like training count first

1195
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: we can segue, but after that, I need my lot quarterback.

1196
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody the babo for quarterback, right, Spice Adam?

1197
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: You play Spice Adams was a teammate of yours and

1198
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: we know the internet sensation. Now. Was he like that

1199
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: in the locker room like he is now? Yeah? He double?

1200
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: What you see with double A, it's high here. Double

1201
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: A don't put on the show for nobody. That's just

1202
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: how he is. He always been like that. Whatever you

1203
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: see when he putting on these videos and stuff, that's

1204
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: just the person he. It is like commute. Certain comedians

1205
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: they got to active be comedians, and then in certain

1206
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: certain that just talent. That's where they really is. So

1207
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: they know they're not putting on the show. That's how

1208
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: double it was. He was like that in the locker room,

1209
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: on the field at Price, every single time you met

1210
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: seeing double he was making people laugh. Why do you

1211
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: wet a number twenty three? I wore twenty three because

1212
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't them I was given in high school. I

1213
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: was given well my freshman year. I played Barston football

1214
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: my freshman year, and so I couldn't get a single digit,

1215
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because all the scene the

1216
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: first crazy thing about it was, I really got them seven, okay.

1217
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: But the old head that was a he was a

1218
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: he was a scene and he wore number seven on JV.

1219
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: So he moved up to the scene and he looked

1220
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: at me here like yo yo rook. I know cod

1221
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 1: Gate at seven, but I need that seven, and I

1222
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: like damn, but he go brou I had to go

1223
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: back up to the candy man. Y'all got them back

1224
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: there for me. You got twenty three year here and

1225
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: so the day I say, listen, but the number don't

1226
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: make you. You make the number, and I just stuck

1227
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: with it. Well, you know in Chicago, if you got

1228
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: the number twenty three, you know what that you know

1229
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: what that is. So in other word, you're trying to say,

1230
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: you to join the returners. I gotta be the joiner returns.

1231
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: It's good look at Chicago when you went twenty three. Man,

1232
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: when when you look around the day and you look

1233
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: at some of the returners to day and even though

1234
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: they don't return the ball, Quardarell still still and still

1235
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: doing that because I think he was in the league

1236
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: when you were when you were in the league, and

1237
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: h he was at Minnesota when you was at Chicago.

1238
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: When you look at some of the guys as far

1239
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: as explosiveness, you look at Lamar Jackson, you look at

1240
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, you look at Tyreek or do you wish

1241
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: you could have played in an era like this as

1242
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: a wide receiver with with so much space and all

1243
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: the rule changes with your can't hitting the defensive receiver

1244
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: and the five yard illegal contact and they can't attack

1245
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Listen, man, right now, all the old heads

1246
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 1: that played now in the football league back in the

1247
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: day already mad about the pay grade. You know what

1248
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we get cleanups. What the boys big bang

1249
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: they're making big wet mother. Man. Then you know what

1250
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean. With the offense, it just seem so much easier.

1251
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: Not it's so much easy, not like we not run

1252
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: these old fashioned plays, not man. Everything like the way

1253
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: the offensive cord only offensive Cortney, that young minded young guys. Man,

1254
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: and they're coming up with great schemes to get guys open. Man.

1255
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: If I if you are the punt returner and kick returner,

1256
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean you see CD Lamb. Now he returned some point.

1257
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: But most guys, once the guy get established on the

1258
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: offensive side or the defensive side, they move away from

1259
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: the returning game. I remember you probably you probably won't

1260
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: remember this guy, but Roy Green. He was a tremendous

1261
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: turn and a wide receiver, but once he got really

1262
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: good at ride receiver, he moved away. Uh. Tyreek is

1263
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: a prime example, right, even d Jack. Right, once they

1264
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: got really good on our offense, they're like, nah, y'all

1265
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: stay away from this, do you yeah? Do you do you?

1266
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a good Do you do you

1267
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: like that? Or do you just like? Man, they still

1268
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: got value back there. But I think it's just from

1269
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: me from my perspective, is that it seems like the

1270
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: teams are like, you're too valuable on offense for us

1271
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: to risk it. There's a greater chance you're gonna get

1272
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: deemed on punt return or kickoff return that you are

1273
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, I think it does play a fact

1274
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: because I can remember, like my fourth year in the league,

1275
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: where I was two years in the system, so I

1276
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: started getting comfortable with the play calling, you know what

1277
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: I mean. We were two years in it with the

1278
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: same offensive coordination, So I started getting comfortable with the

1279
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: play calling where I can go out there and listen

1280
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: to half of the play at break the haller, you

1281
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean, You know what I gotta do right,

1282
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: and trying to do both of them, and being a

1283
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: full time receiver, like it's impossible, Okay, Like it's impossible.

1284
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I was at the point where I was when

1285
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: I was a full time wires, I was praying that

1286
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: they didn't kick it to me because I didn't have

1287
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: those juice in the legs. Man. So I don't care

1288
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: how hard you're training all season, man, when you out

1289
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: there with them flying bullets, man, you you running, man.

1290
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 1: And so that second in the middle of that second, third,

1291
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, Man, when you gonna rent no hard on man,

1292
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: and you don't win on the go rout twice and nine,

1293
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: you turn around defense three and nine this point returning

1294
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: called up. You ain't got no juice in them legs, man,

1295
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: So I don't it's impossible to do it. Man, I'm

1296
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 1: looking at this. You've had something that I don't know

1297
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: if anybody else has ever had. You had a perfect

1298
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: speed rating a one hundred and two thousand and eight,

1299
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: making you the fastest player in the game. But I

1300
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: don't know if there have been a lot of ninety nine.

1301
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: And that seems to be the standard nine. You get

1302
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: the ninety nine. Travis else is the nine and nine

1303
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: and Patrick mahomes of the ninety nine. Uh Jalen Ramsey

1304
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: is the ninety nine. Aaron Donald's or nine and nine.

1305
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: We've had players ninety nine. I don't know if we've

1306
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: ever had a player with a hundred. So when you

1307
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: think about, like Man, everybody loved Man. You guys love Madden,

1308
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: But how many of y'all had that hundred? I had

1309
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: that hunting? Yeah? That that that That's a lot of

1310
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 1: kids grow up now. That's what they know me from

1311
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: you on the guy on Man, a hunt of speed,

1312
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's where my popularity to

1313
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,959
Speaker 1: come from. That Man game with me being the first

1314
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 1: guy to have a hundred. That was, to be honest,

1315
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: that was a bigger compliment and a lot of respects

1316
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: from Matt And you know what I mean for feeling

1317
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: like that I should should get up the hundred. If

1318
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: I took Devin Hester outside right now, said Remy and faltered,

1319
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: how fast you think you can run it? Listen, man,

1320
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: last time I tried to sprint, I pulled the hip.

1321
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm scared of sprint, right, I pulled the hip. I'm saying,

1322
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: I'm scared, right, I'm scared of kicking in the field

1323
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: gear so so so uh so, how do you so,

1324
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 1: how do you stay in shape? You do when you're

1325
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: riding the bike, You're do an elliptical. You do a

1326
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: little jogging, little here and there. So my my my

1327
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: middle son plays football, okay, and so yeah, I coach.

1328
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: I coached the team and me going out there the

1329
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: present and running gases with them boys and running through plays.

1330
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: And see, I got eight year old. So it's like

1331
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: a teacher was struggling with a bunch of kid that

1332
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: just don't want to want to listen. So me running around,

1333
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: jumping up and down, yelling and all that, and then

1334
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: I get about three days a week in the weight room. Shoot,

1335
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: my condition come from chasing them little kids and sprinting

1336
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: with them during the daytime. Right. The Bears. The Bears

1337
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: have the most Hall of famers, and your first year

1338
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: of eligibility, you're talking about some of the all time greats.

1339
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: You're talking about the Buckers. Is you're talking about coach

1340
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: Allen's the owner Bears, uh GAYL. Sayers, Richard Dent, I mean,

1341
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: Walter Payton, singletary. The list goes on and on. What

1342
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: would it mean for Devin Hester to all of a

1343
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: sudden and probably you're gonna have your name up in

1344
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: the stadium. I mean, that's what they do with the

1345
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: great the Chicago Bears. The name go up in the stadium.

1346
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: What would that mean to a kid from from Palm Beach, Florida,

1347
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden, he's a Pro Football Hall

1348
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: of Famer. And when you go back to the Soldier

1349
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: feel like, look like they're gonna be moving. But when

1350
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: they go, you go back to get that ring and

1351
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: one day you look up in the stadium and like, wow,

1352
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: my kids looking up there, like, man, that's my dad,

1353
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,439
Speaker 1: my dad's names up there with that Hall of Fame

1354
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: logo next to it. See that, And that's that's the thing,

1355
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like everybody want to be

1356
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: we we remembered, you know what I mean. And the

1357
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: only way to be remembered, man, it's to cheese him accolades, man,

1358
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: make that Hall of Fame, you know what I mean?

1359
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 1: And to have your name up on that stadium. Because

1360
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: once that name goes up, though, man, and let that

1361
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: building burned out your name. Make going nowhere correct. So

1362
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: it's just like like it's just like in the degree,

1363
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: once you get that degree, came nobody to take that

1364
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: from you, exactly right. So once once you get that

1365
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: hall of fame, man, Man, that's for for your That

1366
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: ain't just for you, man, that's for represent the name

1367
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: on the back of the jersey. Man, for your mom

1368
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: to say, my mom is like my number one fan.

1369
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 1: Like she bragged on me to the point where it

1370
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: embarrassed me when I get around you know what I mean,

1371
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,719
Speaker 1: And it embarrass me sometimes, like, man, come on, launch

1372
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: a lot. Man, don't tell him that. But it's just

1373
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 1: she's just a proud mom. And for me to make

1374
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 1: that hall of fame Man, that's that's my whole family man,

1375
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: And what we went through, you know what I mean,

1376
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: Like from from what we talked about the college and

1377
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: all that. Man, you know what I mean. Like for me, Well, listen,

1378
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: that's it for me. That's all I want. Right now.

1379
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a choice. You got one choice.

1380
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: Would you rather play dB and pick up Tom Brady

1381
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: or catch a bomb or go ride from Patrick Mahomes

1382
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: kick off a pick you a big Brady Brady take

1383
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna hit the d are you gotta hit

1384
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: the time on it on the head, on my eyes

1385
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,560
Speaker 1: up front? The forty on him? Are you? Are you

1386
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: surprised that Tom Brady has been able to play this

1387
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 1: long and being able to play this well. I mean,

1388
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, we look Normally guys don't play this long.

1389
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: But he not only played long, he played great. It's dude,

1390
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: twenty two years in. I had to let that thing

1391
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: go at fourteen. I don't know how long you played there,

1392
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: but I had to let that thing go. At fourteen.

1393
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: Them licks started hurting. And that's when I tell people.

1394
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 1: I say, Man, as you get older, those licks hurt you.

1395
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm rung, I'm lowering my shoulder, I'm running over. I'm

1396
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: looking for guys to run into. Man, you start getting

1397
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 1: a year twelve thirteen, fourteen, you like, turn that blink on,

1398
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 1: blink on plink and hit that out of miles on him. Man.

1399
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 1: And when it when you get hitting and the injury

1400
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: last long with you, you don't recover as quick as

1401
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: you once did. Uh it do? Man? So for Tom, Man,

1402
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 1: there's so much technology going on right now. You don't

1403
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 1: know what's going on over there. Man, with Tom Man

1404
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: for him to still be playing with heat, playing heat,

1405
01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: he got it, be spending a couple of million dollars

1406
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna hit about. Yeah, he's sleeping. He probably sleeping in

1407
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 1: the hyperback chamber. He might have his whole his whole

1408
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: house is a hyperback chamber. He eating the best. He

1409
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: got the best, yeff. He got the best staff, medical staff,

1410
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: physio staff, pete. He got the best of everything, everything. Man.

1411
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: So you don't never see him hurt. That's a great

1412
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: thing about it. I can't remember that time Tom Brady

1413
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 1: was hurt. Right. Well, you know, they don't allow you

1414
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: to take the quarterback like they was dead. Now, they

1415
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: usually let you blast the quarterback, but you can't last

1416
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now they throw them. They're gonna throw the

1417
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 1: laundry on you. You hit the quarterback too hard. Yeah,

1418
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 1: but he don't. Took a couple of hitting and he

1419
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: get right back up. Now it's still quarterbacks out there. Shoot,

1420
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 1: they getting hurt. I don't see Tom getting her. I mean,

1421
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: I know it's a Tom Brady rule, but I don't

1422
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 1: see hit a couple of times and he get right

1423
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: back up. Ye see, But Tom ain't trying to prove

1424
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: see a lot of times guys get in trouble when

1425
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 1: they trying to prove how tough they are. Well, I'm

1426
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna run over this linebacker. I'm gonna run over this guy.

1427
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: Tom like, nah, I'm good, just touch me. Yeah, I'm

1428
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna come and get you the next play exactly exactly.

1429
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: Tom played baseball for he know how the slide. Damn it. Man,

1430
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: congratulations on the Hall of Fame. Appreciate you getting me

1431
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes of your time today, Brou. Good

1432
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: luck with the family. Hope palls well on your end, Brou.

1433
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: All right, appreciate it. Man, night talking to you again. Man,

1434
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 1: all right, Brou. I have a go with all my life,

1435
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: the grinding all my life, sacri fice, hustle back price,

1436
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: one slice got the bron dice to swadd all my life.

1437
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life, all my life, the

1438
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: grounding all my life, sacri fice, hustle back price, one

1439
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: slice got the bron dice to swaddy all my life.

1440
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: I've been grinding all my life,