Speaker 1: What is up Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and on today's show,
Speaker 1: one last show before the conference championship games, we'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and preview those. I have a list of my
Speaker 1: quarterbacks one through thirty two I want to get through.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the coaching carousel across the NFL, and
Speaker 1: we'll finally get to some Dolphins information. On this podcast,
Speaker 1: Kyle Krabs joins me to talk about the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and the Shrine Bowl, as well as the Dolphins Rookie
Speaker 1: Clash from twenty twenty four. All of that and more
Speaker 1: from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: The Draft Time Podcast. Big Weekend Ahead. Juice Crew in
Speaker 1: search of back to back Wiffle Blast championships will be
Speaker 1: three out of four years if we can get that done.
Speaker 1: And we did combine with the Dolphins team, which probably
Speaker 1: should have been a part of for the last few years,
Speaker 1: but hey, you know, Jews paid the nil deal was
Speaker 1: hirer for you boy, so went to Jews Crew. We
Speaker 1: combined the teams this year because both teams lost like
Speaker 1: half of our roster. So we're combining forces and hopefully
Speaker 1: winning another championship here for Jews crew. So before we
Speaker 1: get into anything today, I wanted to spend some time
Speaker 1: going around the league and talking about coaching changes and
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and start with the former there as there were
Speaker 1: seven openings heading into this hiring cycle, and I'm recording
Speaker 1: this maybe a little bit too early on a Wednesday
Speaker 1: afternoon could come back and bite me in the butt
Speaker 1: to have to retape this. But as of this moment,
Speaker 1: we have four of the seven no No, No one two,
Speaker 1: three of the seven vacancies field. It feels like it
Speaker 1: usually happens earlier this time of year, doesn't it. And
Speaker 1: it's funny watching the Bears and Lines discourse heat up,
Speaker 1: and I'm so excited to watch that rivalry next year
Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson taking the trip over to Chicago, like
Speaker 1: the day after they lost a divisional round football game
Speaker 1: that they were supposed to win by double digits or
Speaker 1: close to it. And you know, the Bears argument is like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Lions have never had a coordinator worth plucking and
Speaker 1: now they don't understand how this works, and the Lions
Speaker 1: just saying this dude was putting together Dennis Allen on
Speaker 1: his staff before, like he already had him agreed to
Speaker 1: the staff by Monday, so that clearly happened before the
Speaker 1: game on Saturday. It's tricky, man. This is why another
Speaker 1: reason why it is so so so tough to win
Speaker 1: in this league and to win championships. And you know,
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell had the comment last year and they lost
Speaker 1: the Niners in the NFC championship game.
Speaker 3: We might never make it back to that game.
Speaker 1: And it seemed like that was ridiculous on the heels
Speaker 1: of going into a home divisional round playoff game as
Speaker 1: nine and a half point favorites. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: Jared Goff kind of flamed out. You're gonna lose both
Speaker 1: your coordinators. Can Campbell recruit two more coordinat like? Interesting stuff?
Speaker 1: He Maybe he's right. I tend to think that his
Speaker 1: culture and that roster alone will be good to get
Speaker 1: them back into contention in that NFC North again.
Speaker 3: But hey, that might be their best chance. You never know.
Speaker 1: Tricky, tricky league, man. And speaking of this, we saw
Speaker 1: two coaches in the AFC East change as the Patriots
Speaker 1: made the move to Mike rabel I talked about it
Speaker 1: a little bit on the Wednesday Show. I think I
Speaker 1: think Rabel's a good higher I think this idea that
Speaker 1: pairing Rable with Drake May is an automatic ten wins
Speaker 1: in two years is a little bit much for my taste.
Speaker 1: That roster has a long.
Speaker 3: Long way to go. Remember last year when who was it? Shoot?
Speaker 1: Who was the guy that was rumored to be that
Speaker 1: was gonna be moved? Oh Man bad podcasting just sitting
Speaker 1: on the air. Who the hell was that he was
Speaker 1: gonna go to the ste Brandon Ayuk? Remember Brandon Ayuk
Speaker 1: was rumored to be on the trade market and he
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't going to the Patriots. I feared
Speaker 1: that could happen for the Patriots this upcoming season as
Speaker 1: well as watch I'll probably signed t Higgins and he'll
Speaker 1: go play with Drake May and be excited. I just
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be multiple off seasons before I Veryabel
Speaker 1: could even have the roster in place to compete. I
Speaker 1: do fear that he kind of has a beat on
Speaker 1: Tua's game and how to take away some of the
Speaker 1: stuff that Tua does well. So that's something to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on. And then Aaron Glenn like, I don't
Speaker 1: think Tyree Hill's going to be here next year, but
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins can still really destroy man coverage,
Speaker 1: and if he wants to implement this, you know, with
Speaker 1: Sauce and DJ Reid and Michael Carter, I imagine that
Speaker 1: aggressive style won't change. So press man coverage makes me
Speaker 1: think that the Dolphins will have answers because Tua tends
Speaker 1: to chew apart man coverage with the skill set that
Speaker 1: he has here. So those two guys interesting hires, both
Speaker 1: defensive coaches coming off defensive coaches who replace defensive coaches
Speaker 1: in a league where pretty much everyone's going on the
Speaker 1: offensive route, the Jaguars are down to the possibility of
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen and Robert Salah and maybe some other names.
Speaker 1: To me, Cohen's the best option there. But either way,
Speaker 1: you're keeping a GM that has has a track record
Speaker 1: of being terrible, like what Dolphins fans think that Chris
Speaker 1: Career is. And you know he's got his flaws, obviously,
Speaker 1: but he's also done a lot of good for this roster.
Speaker 1: That's what Trent Balky has been for years, going back
Speaker 1: to the Niners. Is I don't get it. I think
Speaker 1: it's destined to fail because of that. So best of
Speaker 1: luck to whoever takes that job, and if Anthony Weaver
Speaker 1: goes to the Saints, I hope that Salah doesn't get
Speaker 1: that job so he can come down here and hopefully
Speaker 1: be our DC as kind of my top option to
Speaker 1: fill the potential vacancy that has been left there by
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver. And I left that part in the show
Speaker 1: because I recorded it on Wednesday, and literally two hours later,
Speaker 1: the news came down that the Jaguars fired Trent Balky
Speaker 1: and so Liam Cohen had told the Jags that he
Speaker 1: was not going to take the head coaching job, removed
Speaker 1: himself from contention for that job to stay on as
Speaker 1: the OC for the Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: Like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Man? Like this guy cost you a chance to get
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. He cost you a chance to get Liam
Speaker 1: Cohen and now you're going to fire him in late January?
Speaker 1: Like this is why I always tell Dolphins fans like
Speaker 1: it could be a lot worse.
Speaker 3: I trust me.
Speaker 1: I know I want to be playing this weekend, but
Speaker 1: at least we're not what we used to be, and
Speaker 1: this is what we used to be. Right, Also, jump
Speaker 1: the gun on recording the Saints portion of the show,
Speaker 1: I said, Anthony Weaver and Mike Kofka were the two finals,
Speaker 1: but they also have Mike McCarthy in there, Joe Brady,
Speaker 1: and Kellen Moore, so there are options there. And again,
Speaker 1: I really, really really hope we can keep Weave. I
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best in the game, and
Speaker 1: if we keep him this time around, he'll be gone
Speaker 1: next year.
Speaker 3: So one war year. I hope we get it.
Speaker 1: Even though I want you to be a head coach,
Speaker 1: but you know a little bit selfishly hope you stay
Speaker 1: here as well for just one more year.
Speaker 3: Give us one more year.
Speaker 1: Saints, I think are a tough job right now because
Speaker 1: of the cap situation. You don't have a quarterback, you're
Speaker 1: not picking super high in the draft. Like tough tough
Speaker 1: spot there. For the Raiders. Ben Johnson was kind of
Speaker 1: the hell Mary they were trying to go after.
Speaker 3: Didn't work out that way.
Speaker 1: Difficult ownership, difficult place to play, you play road games
Speaker 1: seventeen times a year, no quarterback, no option to get
Speaker 1: a quarterback with the eighth pick in the draft.
Speaker 3: Really, that's the toughest job in the league right now.
Speaker 1: Next maybe the Cowboys who are going to maybe court
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders, who I think makes the most sense because
Speaker 1: it's a roster that's not poor of talent. They have
Speaker 1: their quarterback, they have a star receiver, they have studs
Speaker 1: on defense. But man, your your GM is like, you know,
Speaker 1: who's the who's the old brother in succession. I wasn't
Speaker 1: a huge succession fan that the old guy that runs
Speaker 1: for office. Like that's basically who's running the Cowboys right now.
Speaker 1: The Bears get Ben Johnson, He's gonna bring DNAs Allen
Speaker 1: with him. I like that coaching staff. I will say,
Speaker 1: I'm always a little bit dubious of these hot shot
Speaker 1: coordinators taking on their you know, the role as the
Speaker 1: culture cetter. I mean, we've seen that the struggles here
Speaker 1: with that a little bit not always being the best
Speaker 1: in this last year kind of kind of reverting back
Speaker 1: to old ways for the Dolphins. And Ben Johnson, there's
Speaker 1: just something maybe a little bit off about him.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I can place it, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: I think that Caleb Williams has a long, long, long
Speaker 1: way to go, and Ben Johnson's obviously the best option
Speaker 1: for that, so good for them. I think that that
Speaker 1: will be a good fit. And then uh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's basically where we are. I also love the hiring
Speaker 1: of lou An Arumo in Indianapolis. I think he was
Speaker 1: inappropriately scapegoaded in Cincinnati. It's a big loss for them
Speaker 1: because their personnel stunk in the Bengals man gonna be
Speaker 1: interesting to watch the Bengals over the next ten years
Speaker 1: because I think it's an organization that just gets in
Speaker 1: its own way and doesn't really invest in the football operation.
Speaker 1: With one of the best quarterbacks in the league. And
Speaker 1: speaking of that, I have my thirty two Power ranked
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right in front of me.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go through this tier by tier.
Speaker 1: Here, I'll tell you where I cut off, where I
Speaker 1: think kind of that next group of players is so
Speaker 1: number thirty two we'll go bomb to top is will Levis,
Speaker 1: Aid o'connells thirty one, Drew Locke is thirty, Jamis Winston's
Speaker 1: twenty nine, Caleb Williams is twenty eight, Derek Carr and
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson twenty seven and twenty six, respectively.
Speaker 3: That's where I have a cutoff, and those are the
Speaker 3: guys that I just don't see it.
Speaker 1: I think that all but one of those guys will
Speaker 1: not be a starter next year, and that'll be Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: I was dubious about Caleb's college tape. I think that
Speaker 1: when you run backwards away from pressure, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough for you. I think that the cool highlight plays
Speaker 1: that get fourteen year olds excited are not what wins
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. We'll see if he can
Speaker 1: piece that together. But everybody else in that list, to me,
Speaker 1: is not worth talking about. And the first guy my
Speaker 1: next tier is someone that broke out of that list
Speaker 1: and I think has a bit of a chance. I
Speaker 1: won't put a lot of stake into it. I think
Speaker 1: he'll be a middle of the world quarterback at best.
Speaker 1: But Bryce Young at number twenty five. Dave Canalis did
Speaker 1: a great job there with him, and I think that
Speaker 1: he showed you some patience and poise and accuracy down
Speaker 1: the field. But I still think there's enough flaws in
Speaker 1: his game vision wise, timing, wise, strength and si all
Speaker 1: the stuff that goes into that I think will be
Speaker 1: a challenge for Bryce Young. The next guy is like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find a way to coach this
Speaker 1: guy into being a better football player. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: do the Tom House stuff that Josh Allen did, but
Speaker 1: Anthony richardson twenty four. I've got bo Nicks at twenty three,
Speaker 1: Drake May at twenty two, Trevor Lawrence at twenty one,
Speaker 1: and then Sam Donald at twenty rounds out the next
Speaker 1: tier there. I don't think Sam's gonna be long for
Speaker 1: like a premier starter in this league. I think he
Speaker 1: caught fire with the right system and the right program
Speaker 1: there and kind of, you know, turned into a pumpkin
Speaker 1: in the two biggest games of the year. I think
Speaker 1: that's more indicative of who he is compared to the
Speaker 1: other big games he had. Trevor Lawrence I just think
Speaker 1: is too robotic. I don't think it matters enough to him.
Speaker 1: I think he'll consistently be in this range between like
Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty. Drake May huge fan of the upside.
Speaker 1: I think he played really well this year, but they
Speaker 1: have a long way to go, and I think that
Speaker 1: he has to see it better and hit layups more,
Speaker 1: which he probably will, and he'll probably move with this
Speaker 1: list more than just about anybody else. Bo Nix I
Speaker 1: still reserve some reservations about this guy. Had some fun
Speaker 1: plays and some big moments. But in terms of playing
Speaker 1: on time, within you know, within the offense, and the
Speaker 1: ability to really run a high, high level offense, it's
Speaker 1: not super quarterback friendly. I like the creativity he featured
Speaker 1: at times last year, but I think that he's probably
Speaker 1: at his ceiling. I don't think he'll really improve much
Speaker 1: as we go along, which it's, you know, is a
Speaker 1: good baseline level to get to the early round playoff games,
Speaker 1: but going beyond that, I don't know if that's in
Speaker 1: his bag. The next year starts with Geno Smith, and
Speaker 1: then I have Michael Pennix at eighteen, which is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be the biggest pushback I get on this list.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge believer in my penex and what he
Speaker 1: can do. I think the accuracy and poise and drive
Speaker 1: in the football, the way he can whip that thing
Speaker 1: is going to really really help him thread some tight windows.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is next. I think that he fell off,
Speaker 1: but man, some of those games he played against US,
Speaker 1: there is still that high level competitor, that kind of
Speaker 1: just high level processing. He really wins the game between
Speaker 1: the ears, and there's still enough there physically to be
Speaker 1: in this position. Brock Purdy is the cutoff of the
Speaker 1: tier right there at number sixteen. I think you saw
Speaker 1: what happened when he lost his weapons. It was not
Speaker 1: like Tua, who still threw for you know, three hundred
Speaker 1: yards and scored thirty points against the Jets about Tyreek
Speaker 1: two years ago. Purdy, I think, is a little bit
Speaker 1: more chaotic and unpredictable, and that has him right in
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack. And then and then I'll
Speaker 1: go like Penex is gonna blow by him this year,
Speaker 1: and then with the next tier, Jalen Hurts kicks it off.
Speaker 1: The fact that the Eagles don't have a competent passing
Speaker 1: game makes me worried about Jalen Hurts. It's the best
Speaker 1: roster in the NFL. They run the ball better than
Speaker 1: anybody else. They get the ball back to him, and
Speaker 1: they give him short fields. The special teams is always
Speaker 1: really good. They are loaded. And Hurts is a dynamic
Speaker 1: runner and tough and a good leader. But man, the
Speaker 1: same passing issues that I saw on his tape back
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma are still there in Philadelphia, and he's not
Speaker 1: getting the ball out to those guys accurately or on time.
Speaker 1: It takes way too many big sacks Kyler Murray is next,
Speaker 1: and this is the guy that I probably could drop further,
Speaker 1: but the elite playmaking is all just so tantalizing with
Speaker 1: his player. I'm curious if he's one of those guys
Speaker 1: that gets moved this offseason, but he falls into the spot.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff took a pretty big stumble after some of
Speaker 1: the big games he played this year, which is the
Speaker 1: same knock. Obviously you'll hear on Tua, but I just
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna regress and losing Ben Johnson. I
Speaker 1: think we'll reveal more about this player than we actually
Speaker 1: than we currently know. Justin Herbert is next. Everything you
Speaker 1: want physically just doesn't play on time, doesn't see it,
Speaker 1: takes big sacks and melts in the big moments. The
Speaker 1: way I talked about how everyone thinks that you know,
Speaker 1: what everyone thinks of Chris career is what Trent balk is,
Speaker 1: what everyone thinks of two is actually what Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: is in a lot of ways. Eleven Baker Mayfield career year.
Speaker 1: Just love everything he's about. I wish we could kind
Speaker 1: of insert that dog into all of our players. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's number ten miss most of the year with injury,
Speaker 1: but still high processing, arm strength, escapability. He was one
Speaker 1: of the best scramblers in the league last year. They
Speaker 1: covered that in Hard Knocks. He is still an elite player.
Speaker 1: I have CJ. Stroud at number nine. I thought he
Speaker 1: played really well in the playoffs. He got dogged for
Speaker 1: the points at scored against the Chiefs, but there were
Speaker 1: some high level anticipation throws, getting the ball out hot
Speaker 1: against pressure. Played in a really bad situation this year.
Speaker 1: The offense didn't really evolve, the offensive line was bad,
Speaker 1: he lost several of his weapons.
Speaker 3: I like c J.
Speaker 1: Stroud number eight, where I put to He's got to
Speaker 1: perform better in bigger moments, obviously, but I think that
Speaker 1: some of the that is overblown. I think he has
Speaker 1: played well in some of the big games, not all
Speaker 1: of them, because hey, guess what, nobody plays great in
Speaker 1: all the big games, because that's why they're big games
Speaker 1: and they're tough. That's why Josh Allen goes nine for
Speaker 1: thirty against the Houston Texans. So I have two in
Speaker 1: this spot. I think that's probably about his capped out ceiling.
Speaker 1: He could jump the next couple of guys in this
Speaker 1: list and be, you know, a top five or six quarterback,
Speaker 1: but I like him in this spot.
Speaker 3: I have Jordan Love at number seven.
Speaker 1: That's going to come with some pushback over to of
Speaker 1: fans and probably people that don't think that highly of
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. But I think that his physical skill set
Speaker 1: and his toughness and his ability to kind of grind
Speaker 1: things out played through a lot of injuries this year.
Speaker 1: I really like Jordan Love's game. Matthew Stafford checks it
Speaker 1: at number six. I just think that the old CAG
Speaker 1: veteran plays his best when the moment is the biggest
Speaker 1: and he's got all the arm angles and athletic ability
Speaker 1: and big time processing. We'll see if he stays up
Speaker 1: here at this age because he's kind of loan. The
Speaker 1: odd man out in terms of his age in this group.
Speaker 1: Number five is Jaden Daniels. He is not a rookie
Speaker 1: on tape. Like Pik Fangio said, this guy's electric elite runner,
Speaker 1: elite processor, which is the most important thing. You pair
Speaker 1: those two things together, it's unstoppable football. Joe Burrow number four,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson number three, and then my two and one.
Speaker 3: I feel like this.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be what you do with Tom Brady years ago,
Speaker 1: where you'd look back and be like, well, Brady was
Speaker 1: always number one, even though you try to move him
Speaker 1: off that spot all the time. I'm going Mahomes number two,
Speaker 1: and I think Josh Allen right now is the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. I just think that the physical
Speaker 1: skill set, the running ability of the design runs on
Speaker 1: third down they go to with him frequently. He can
Speaker 1: game manage and they're happy to do that and win
Speaker 1: football games. But when you need to need to play like,
Speaker 1: that's the guy, right he He's the freaking guy. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen number one quarterback for me in the league right now.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and preview Josh Allen number one versus
Speaker 1: number two, Patrick Mahomes here next on the Draft Time Podcast,
Speaker 1: take a look at the division, or rather the championship games.
Speaker 1: Eagles and Commanders will do Chiefs and Bills, and we'll
Speaker 1: try to get Kyle Crabs on the podcast here after
Speaker 1: all of that. That's coming up next Draft Time Podcast,
Speaker 1: your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you by I don't
Speaker 1: know shit. It is once again championship weekend in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Commanders and Eagles. Your three o'clock kickoff Bills and Chiefs
Speaker 1: your six thirty kickoff and not gonna be pins.
Speaker 3: And needles for that one. Before I get.
Speaker 1: Into this Commander's and Eagles game to kick off the day,
Speaker 1: I want to shout out somebody on X who I
Speaker 1: think made the post of the year. Quite frankly, even
Speaker 1: though it's only January twenty second, I do not believe
Speaker 1: that post will be topped. He is at Fincane his
Speaker 1: title name or whatever you call that is, I ain't him,
Speaker 1: and he has the anonymous mask on his profile with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins hat. I thought he did a masterful job
Speaker 1: of nipping to me the most annoying bit of social
Speaker 1: media decorum in the bud though, I will say the
Speaker 1: whole euro approach and the Dolphins lost another player who
Speaker 1: made a play in a playoff, Okay, like that is
Speaker 1: right up there too, but or probably worse. But for
Speaker 1: the sake of my lead into this game, we'll say
Speaker 1: this is the worst the people that tie everything back
Speaker 1: to one player. And it's obviously too, but it would
Speaker 1: be true for anybody else. A good example when we
Speaker 1: had a bad offensive line game, it's always like Garle,
Speaker 1: you might merv, but you know, do you actually know,
Speaker 1: because football is a very esoteric game, it's okay to
Speaker 1: not get at all, and especially when you just watched
Speaker 1: the broadcast once with twelve bruskis by your side. Like
Speaker 1: film watchers know this. You get a sense from the
Speaker 1: game post game how you felt about it, But then
Speaker 1: you watch the tape in your opinion can change quite
Speaker 1: a lot, at least if you are looking for the
Speaker 1: right things. But I don't want to get into that
Speaker 1: when I want to discuss was this that Finn Caine
Speaker 1: made about the Bills and Chiefs debate this week? Which, well,
Speaker 1: what's that you haven't heard? Oh brother, get a load
Speaker 1: of this. There are Dolphins fans out there open about
Speaker 1: the fact that they want Buffalo to win this weekend
Speaker 1: because they hate the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: What what?
Speaker 1: Actually, it's actually not having that tough to understand, because
Speaker 1: you know, check to see if they have.
Speaker 3: You can see where you're going with this.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is go to someone's timeline
Speaker 1: to see why they think the way they think. Right,
Speaker 1: if there's lots of like retweets of libs of TikTok,
Speaker 1: for instance, you can track it back to that. I
Speaker 1: saw one guy saying that he's rooting for Buffalo because
Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift, Like, okay, dude.
Speaker 3: Cool friggin cool.
Speaker 1: So Finn Caan has this post of Brian Cox and
Speaker 1: if you don't know who that is, get with it,
Speaker 1: describing his hatred for the Buffalo Bills. Then another account
Speaker 1: who I won't even acknowledge the name of on this
Speaker 1: show replies and makes it about Tua some frigginhow right.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it, but sometime you
Speaker 1: do it. I don't want to read the entire tweet
Speaker 1: because it's lengthy, But Finn Kane said, the person that
Speaker 1: you've described in this post where you're coming at me,
Speaker 1: this fan, one that only cares about Tua and not
Speaker 1: the dolphins. That is so terrible because their whole You know,
Speaker 1: the VBS guy, for instance, who only tweets about Tua
Speaker 1: and denigrates Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen, which makes him
Speaker 1: look like a fool quite frankly. But everyone that thinks
Speaker 1: that if you do that, you're so content with mediocrity.
Speaker 1: That person, to a Stan as it were, only exists
Speaker 1: because of the other side of the coin, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: If we're being honest, it reminds me of a great
Speaker 1: lyric the all time best guitar player slash lyricists slash
Speaker 1: vocalist Claudio Sanchez, frontman for Cohed and Gambria wrote when
Speaker 1: he wrote the Arkham City title track for that video game,
Speaker 1: who will be your pretty little enemy? When I'm gone?
Speaker 1: Your world will prove empty. This whole debate dies on
Speaker 1: the vine without the other side. You need each other
Speaker 1: for this to exist. And like, yeah, I'm probably more
Speaker 1: publicly verbose about my support of Tua because of the negative,
Speaker 1: incorrect backlash that he gets. And that was the case
Speaker 1: with Ryan Tannehill too. I don't think I ever went
Speaker 1: above like the twelfth best quarterback in the NFL for Tannehill,
Speaker 1: but I was dubbed a stand because I said, like,
Speaker 1: you guys that think that he can't play, he's not great,
Speaker 1: but he can play. On this show, I just told
Speaker 1: you about seven quarterbacks I have that I think are
Speaker 1: better than Tua, And quite frankly, there's three or four
Speaker 1: guys behind him that I could certainly be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I get that, I get the case for that, but
Speaker 1: my Twitter account probably doesn't always convey that I don't know.
Speaker 1: And this is all a preamble to saying I just
Speaker 1: want to enjoy watching Jade and Daniels play football because
Speaker 1: I saw the tweets and I've done a good job
Speaker 1: of insulating myself and no, your echo chamber, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I just don't like, I don't want to spend my
Speaker 1: free time reading nonsense. That's if you want to call
Speaker 1: that an echo chamber, that's fine. But I have done
Speaker 1: a good job of insulating my Twitter account to where
Speaker 1: it's X right, Twitter's dead and they killed Twitter. This
Speaker 1: is now X my ex account is. I don't see
Speaker 1: these posts, but if I look for him, I can
Speaker 1: find him. And I saw one about Jaden Daniels and
Speaker 1: how he's already accomplished so much, and it's just like, dude,
Speaker 1: just shut up, man, Like okay, so does that denegrate
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson the same way?
Speaker 3: You know whatever.
Speaker 1: But with all of this in the past, I always
Speaker 1: worried about the perception, you know, about these conversations, how
Speaker 1: it took from my joy from watching the sport, and
Speaker 1: that's on me.
Speaker 3: That's something I have to look inward on.
Speaker 1: I cannot let this fraction of a fraction of a
Speaker 1: fan base take that from me. So what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say, is I am so locked down what happens here,
Speaker 1: and I just want to enjoy what promise is to
Speaker 1: be a really good football game and a really big spot,
Speaker 1: which is.
Speaker 3: What we yearn for.
Speaker 1: Like I remember, you know, before twenty twenty, it was
Speaker 1: always like, oh, we'll find out next year, but let's
Speaker 1: go enjoy the playoffs because this is what real football
Speaker 1: looks like. And then we put ourselves in the conversation.
Speaker 1: Then we got into the playoffs and became one of
Speaker 1: those teams and we it was hard to enjoy the
Speaker 1: playoffs because you were there and you had a chance
Speaker 1: to crash the party. But I remember I used to
Speaker 1: really enjoy the playoffs when we weren't part of them
Speaker 1: all the time because it was like free football almost,
Speaker 1: and you know, not Dolphins football, but extra football, and
Speaker 1: there wasn't all these narratives I was concerned about, or
Speaker 1: who's going to be proven to be the better player
Speaker 1: than player?
Speaker 3: You know, I just I didn't care. And I'm getting
Speaker 3: back to that.
Speaker 1: And this matchup is so much fun because Jayden Daniels
Speaker 1: is awesome. Who doesn't like watching that guy play football?
Speaker 1: And when you have to, you know, reserve it in
Speaker 1: this guise of like, well, is he better than my guard?
Speaker 1: Will I have to defend the fact that he isn't.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna pretend to, you know, get on him
Speaker 1: for these two missthrows that he had, Like I just
Speaker 1: want to watch him play football, and he's really the
Speaker 1: only quarterback that went up and down the field on
Speaker 1: the Eagles since like October, this best defense in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I think Vic Fangio's defense is designed to really
Speaker 1: take away some of their bread and butter and probably
Speaker 1: find a way to through their coverage, you know, bracket
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, even though they won't travel, but they'll find
Speaker 1: a way to bracket him. And then obviously they have
Speaker 1: the guns up front to really change the pace of
Speaker 1: the game and make Jayden, you know, uncomfortable. I don't
Speaker 1: think the way he's playing right now that I think
Speaker 1: that when you're playing at that level, you kind of
Speaker 1: dictate the terms because a perfect offense is indefensible, and
Speaker 1: right now they're kind of a perfect offense in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways. And the Commanders have paired a balanced
Speaker 1: passing game with a quarterback who has electric play making
Speaker 1: ability and elite processing speed. I love the way their
Speaker 1: offense didn't just overwhelm him early on and then remove
Speaker 1: things from the offense as it went, but rather slowly
Speaker 1: added to his plate. And now you have this empowered,
Speaker 1: confident quarterback ready to shred you at any moment's notice.
Speaker 1: They've got the weapons, They've got the quarterback, but do
Speaker 1: they have the defense. That's where I say no. And
Speaker 1: what's more, man, we get all these takes right, and
Speaker 1: who's more guilty of it than I am? I've done
Speaker 1: what we've learned from this weekend and playoff football on
Speaker 1: the show since we started the show five years ago.
Speaker 1: But these games are pretty simple. The Lions made more
Speaker 1: mistakes through three turnovers. The Ravens turned it over three
Speaker 1: times and dropped the game tying two points conversion. The
Speaker 1: Rams lost two fumbles and lost by six, and the
Speaker 1: Texans had a critical turnover run downs, missed three kicks
Speaker 1: and had two special teams penalties and a big kickoff
Speaker 1: return and a pick by C. J. Stroud is who
Speaker 1: messes up more? That's what it comes down to. And
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles ability to have multiple ways to win,
Speaker 1: even if the passing game hasn't been one of them
Speaker 1: for a few months now. I think they are just
Speaker 1: a team that's going to play a cleaner game, win
Speaker 1: the physical element of the game. And maybe it's like
Speaker 1: seventeen all in half, but I think Barkley wears these
Speaker 1: dudes down and the Eagles get back into the big
Speaker 1: game for the second time in three years. By the way,
Speaker 1: both my playoff picks for the Super Bowl are out
Speaker 1: in Baltimore and Detroit. That's who I picked a couple
Speaker 1: weeks ago. My regular season pick was Chiefs and Niners.
Speaker 1: Down to just one of those teams, obviously, and I
Speaker 1: just went two and two on divisional weekend to bring
Speaker 1: us a seven and three on the playoffs, though I
Speaker 1: am hoping to go one and one this weekend because well,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Bills in Chiefs and Bills. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I need a Chiefs win like I need air.
Speaker 1: But I just think they are primed to go get
Speaker 1: this one. You know it'll be a close game. The
Speaker 1: Chiefs are allergic to playing anything, but and I believe
Speaker 1: they've won, like looking it up, sixteen consecutive one score games.
Speaker 1: And if there's a team, a style, a quarterback that
Speaker 1: I think can buck that trend. It's these Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: You've probably seen some commentary about Josh Allen's stat line
Speaker 1: and the little he had to do with to beat
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and man, I just wish we could get
Speaker 1: beyond that type of discourse and just use our eyes.
Speaker 1: You know, you saw the impact. You see it all
Speaker 1: the time. You see what they call in critical third
Speaker 1: downs and how this dude always makes the damn play.
Speaker 1: What are that tweet a while back? I'm sick of
Speaker 1: playing this damn guy because you know it too well.
Speaker 1: Where he gets pressure on a fourth down in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, on a fourth and goal situation, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: have a two point leave. He scrambles and peels back
Speaker 1: and runs into two defenders and throws the ball while
Speaker 1: he's being sandwiched and still finds paydirt somehow.
Speaker 3: He's just absurd.
Speaker 1: The best quarterback in the league right now for my money,
Speaker 1: and in a game that I think will come down
Speaker 1: to the ability to be balanced to support the quarterback
Speaker 1: to win the game late. I think the Bills run game,
Speaker 1: their rock solid offensive line and that quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: this is the year they get it done. And to
Speaker 1: think the Eagles might be the last ones to save
Speaker 1: us from a Bills title. And look, I love Jayden,
Speaker 1: but would rather I would rather have the Eagles there
Speaker 1: to do that than the Commanders. As fun as they've
Speaker 1: been to see this get this far, give me the Eagles.
Speaker 1: If we have to watch the Bill's Super Bowls, I'm
Speaker 1: taking Philly and Buffalo. Bill's in the Super Bowl. Man,
Speaker 1: I was six or seven years old last time that happened.
Speaker 1: And how crazy is that they were in this position
Speaker 1: the year after they were supposed to regress, right, Not
Speaker 1: tooting my own horn here, but I was never of
Speaker 1: the belief they would regress coming into this year, and
Speaker 1: in fact, I think you can learn something from their
Speaker 1: team building approach this past offseason. So yeah, Bill's Eagles again.
Speaker 1: I hope I'm one and one or even zero and two.
Speaker 3: I don't care. I just want the Bills to lose
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 1: But I'm not picking it against them, all right, So
Speaker 1: go ahead and welcome in my guest, Kyle Krabs on
Speaker 1: the other side to talk about these games. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about my quarterback list, the Dolphins rookie class, and so
Speaker 1: much more. Draft Time Podcast, your host Travis Wingfield brought
Speaker 1: to you by Autodation.
Speaker 3: Always good to see my buddy here.
Speaker 1: On the podcast, Kyle Krabs joins us for a little
Speaker 1: rookie class review and a look ahead to the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and Shrine Bowl. He's gonna have boots on the
Speaker 1: ground both in Mobile and over at the Star in Frisco, Texas. Kyle,
Speaker 1: what's up man? Good to see you again.
Speaker 4: I feel obligated to go buy boots now.
Speaker 2: You said boots on the ground, and I can't tell
Speaker 2: you last time I owned a pair of boots, but
Speaker 2: I am gonna go get new shoes because inevitably it's
Speaker 2: gonna rain one day and I don't want to wear
Speaker 2: a nice sneakers out and I think I'm gonna buy
Speaker 2: boots now so I can literally have boots.
Speaker 4: On the ground here because of this interact, So thank you.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to it, but I don't
Speaker 1: have my north face anymore that I used to have
Speaker 1: from back when I lived in weather that was like
Speaker 1: we have today here, and I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: regret that. I mean, we have Whiffle Blast tomorrow and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like forty degrees out there, and I
Speaker 1: this is like the most clothes I own in terms
Speaker 1: of like this is like a long sleeve Dolphins shirt.
Speaker 3: That's all I have have.
Speaker 1: So Chop Robinson was named to the Pro Football Riders
Speaker 1: of America All Rookie Team. He's also one of five
Speaker 1: finalists for the Defensive Rookie of the Year. Obviously a
Speaker 1: great pick for the Dolphins and a cornerstone piece going forward.
Speaker 3: I kind of want to just get your your bird's
Speaker 3: eye view.
Speaker 1: Perspective on Chop, how he developed, what you think his
Speaker 1: long term projection is, and just kind of give us
Speaker 1: the traits and what has you excited about. What has
Speaker 1: this guy, you know, a top five rookie defender in
Speaker 1: his rookie season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think where he really showed the growth.
Speaker 2: You go back to what he was at Penn State,
Speaker 2: and the disruption has always been there, but it was
Speaker 2: the ability to finish a lot of plays and play
Speaker 2: through contact at diminished angles enough whereas you're turning the
Speaker 2: corner and turning the arc, you're not just kind of
Speaker 2: running by a guy and force him to be uncomfortable,
Speaker 2: but you're able to get enough of that player to
Speaker 2: finish the play.
Speaker 4: And I thought that's.
Speaker 2: Where you really saw him get better throughout the course
Speaker 2: of this season was through contact at the top of
Speaker 2: the arc. There were instant there were instances where we
Speaker 2: had free runs, but a lot of these were not
Speaker 2: free runs against no contact and schemed pressures up and
Speaker 2: intier gap untouched to go to the quarterback. So I
Speaker 2: think that's what's really exciting about Chop and he's going
Speaker 2: to continue to develop in that regard, and I think
Speaker 2: as he gets more snap opportunities because he's a more
Speaker 2: well rounded player to play the run, and I thought
Speaker 2: that was something that from training camp through the end
Speaker 2: of the season, his placement on his fits as an
Speaker 2: outside player in the run game. I think there's there's
Speaker 2: a lot to build upon there, and the development and
Speaker 2: the trajector is obviously an arrow that's pointing up for
Speaker 2: this team. So I think he will be a lot
Speaker 2: better as he continues to diversify his pass rush arsenal.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's going to earn more
Speaker 2: opportunities because he's going to be more well rounded player
Speaker 2: and some of that production is just going to come
Speaker 2: as an extension of that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned the growth and improvement because I
Speaker 1: think that also speaks to not just CHOP's acumen and
Speaker 1: his desire, because you have to have those things to
Speaker 1: show that type of growth. And man, there were moments
Speaker 1: where he would take like that Patriots game down here.
Speaker 1: He took that game over there for points at a time.
Speaker 1: And I think it speaks to the presence of Jealan Phillips,
Speaker 1: who we know what he's all about from a work standpoint,
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb, who was the exact same way, and Ryan
Speaker 1: Crow who's getting you know, some mentions here as possible
Speaker 1: DC jobs. I think think for the Patriots as a
Speaker 1: possible interview there. So it's a good position group coming back.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what it looks like next year,
Speaker 1: and Chop is kind of at the forefront of that.
Speaker 1: And man, we saw him run that nosebacker rep. I
Speaker 1: think it wasn't the Jets game was the first time
Speaker 1: we saw him do it as a rookie, and that
Speaker 1: was something he was really good at Penn State with.
Speaker 1: So put more on that guy's play. I think he
Speaker 1: can take off in your number two, who was the
Speaker 1: next most impressive rookie, Kyle, because the Chop was the
Speaker 1: obvious pick, your first round pick, he balled out.
Speaker 3: He was a great player.
Speaker 1: Who do you think was next in a group of
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys here that might satisfy this category.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd probably give it the League Washington for he
Speaker 2: brought some life to the special teams unit as far
Speaker 2: as the return game and making some big things happen
Speaker 2: in that regard. Not a obviously not a big guy,
Speaker 2: but I think some of the ancillary elements of playing
Speaker 2: wide receiver that is what earns you opportunities in playing time.
Speaker 2: He was effective at and it looks like he's got
Speaker 2: good chemistry with Tua as far as like the route
Speaker 2: that he ran against San Francisco down.
Speaker 4: In the red zone.
Speaker 2: No, you're talking about where he he bubbled it outside
Speaker 2: just enough. He's got outside leverage and he pushes his
Speaker 2: leverage into the body of the defender before he breaks
Speaker 2: off on the glance and the balls right on his body.
Speaker 2: But the nuance of that route, and that was kind
Speaker 2: of the first time you saw down the field nuanced
Speaker 2: route with big time timing that was right on the money.
Speaker 2: And obviously the the intelligence that it takes to be
Speaker 2: somebody who is a member of the Virginia program and
Speaker 2: it's it's known for its academics right that I think
Speaker 2: shows up on film, and this is a nuanced offense
Speaker 2: for better and for worse. And I think having gotten
Speaker 2: the reps this year, I think that's that's only going
Speaker 2: to allow him to take on a bigger role moving forward.
Speaker 2: But I would say he's the one that everybody liked
Speaker 2: mo League Washington coming out, is a tough player.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have a bigger.
Speaker 2: Role as well, just based off of the experience that
Speaker 2: he cultivated this year.
Speaker 1: I kept telling Oj, this guy reminds me of you, man,
Speaker 1: your play style. The toughness is the gridth that he offers,
Speaker 1: and you know that the tough hands and the maybe
Speaker 1: the stature as well all kind of remind me of
Speaker 1: Oj McDuffie.
Speaker 3: Good company there.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned that route that that throw, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, that's that's what makes two a special man.
Speaker 1: You saw the way he vacated that Mike linebacker with
Speaker 1: the kind of pump and the footwork to show that
Speaker 1: throw to the one side of the field. That comes
Speaker 1: back to different topic, but I saw that tweet of
Speaker 1: the day and I was I was excited about that
Speaker 1: throw and also the way you mentioned that route, man,
Speaker 1: Like I know we talk a lot about Tyler Warren,
Speaker 1: the Penn State tight end. Here he had that crossing
Speaker 1: route in the Orange Bowl against against Penn State, or
Speaker 1: rather against sorry Notre Dame, right, yes, yeah, struggling here
Speaker 1: against Notre Dame where he had like leaned into the
Speaker 1: defender and was able to get that separation based upon
Speaker 1: the head nod and the shift before the actual break
Speaker 1: on the route. So those little nuances go a long way. Man,
Speaker 1: this next question, I think I know where you're where
Speaker 1: you'll go. I think there are two options. But biggest
Speaker 1: jump for a rookie in the second year and why,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: It's Patrick Paul where you saw opportunities on both sides
Speaker 2: of the line.
Speaker 4: I think you saw some.
Speaker 2: Of the natural left tackle stuff for him, but.
Speaker 4: He it never looked too big for him.
Speaker 2: And he had a a baptism by fire as far
Speaker 2: as his first start against Tennis and that front, and
Speaker 2: he got into the meat of the season and I
Speaker 2: really felt like he handled his opportunities very well. And
Speaker 2: you know it's it's a position room where toront Armstead
Speaker 2: needs to make a decision on what his future looks like.
Speaker 2: And then the team will obviously have a decision as
Speaker 2: they managed some big contracts. But this selection was kind
Speaker 2: of made with the intent of, you know, this is
Speaker 2: somebody who could be a left tackle of the future
Speaker 2: type player for us. And while I would want more
Speaker 2: competition for like the swing tackle spot, assuming Ken the
Speaker 2: Lamb does end up retiring like he talked about the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, I think you'll need competition in
Speaker 2: that room. But if you told me that Patrick Paul
Speaker 2: is the starting left tackle Week one in twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: based off the reps he showed at left tackle this year,
Speaker 2: I think he's he's gonna knock that opportunity out of
Speaker 2: the part. And that's not necessarily where I thought I
Speaker 2: would be with Patrick Paul based off his tape at
Speaker 2: Euston playing for an air raid college spread type offense,
Speaker 2: and I think he deserves all the credit in the
Speaker 2: world for that.
Speaker 1: Another instance of a guy that just did things the
Speaker 1: right way and put the work in and showed that
Speaker 1: growth and like you mentioned, the technique came a long way,
Speaker 1: the punch that the kickslide, everything that he did looked
Speaker 1: more coordinated than you. Like you mentioned the college tape,
Speaker 1: So that's good to hear. And my pick for that
Speaker 1: would be jillen Wright. I think fans here know how
Speaker 1: big of a believe r I am and jillen Right
Speaker 1: skill set. How about this last one here, Kyle a
Speaker 1: dark horse pick of sorts, a guy that you believe
Speaker 1: in based on the college tape but didn't get a
Speaker 1: lot of chances as a rookie, maybe no chances at all.
Speaker 3: Maybe a practice squad guy could even be that.
Speaker 1: Who's a guy that you think that didn't really contribute
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four that could come back in year
Speaker 1: two and have an impact.
Speaker 2: And if Patrick McMorris plays anything like what did preseason
Speaker 2: tape look like, that's a player who And again we
Speaker 2: talked about Malik Washington and I didn't give him Aleak
Speaker 2: enough credit because he was at Virginia before that, he
Speaker 2: spent four years at Northwestern.
Speaker 4: You talk about smart.
Speaker 2: Guys, right, north Western in Virginia is your academic background.
Speaker 4: Patrick morris was cal.
Speaker 2: That's another place where, like last, smart guys go play
Speaker 2: a Cal and he's got toughness. We saw some special
Speaker 2: teams with stuff with him once they activated him and
Speaker 2: put him on the active roster. I think that's a
Speaker 2: player that just based off of you could tell there
Speaker 2: was a lot of conviction with the folks in the
Speaker 2: football operations department when they made that pick, because it
Speaker 2: kind of flew in the face of a lot of
Speaker 2: the traits that this organization is usually coveted in draft selections,
Speaker 2: as far as the athletic profiles and smart, tough football
Speaker 2: player who got on the field and showed you why
Speaker 2: people were really excited about what he looks like. And
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot of opportunity in that room,
Speaker 2: you would assume, because Devon Holland, Jordan Poyer, and Elijah
Speaker 2: Kim are all expiring contracts. So I think that's the
Speaker 2: one where I think of the right intersection of what
Speaker 2: you anticipate is going to be oppor tunity with the
Speaker 2: player who flashed enough with limited opportunities this past year
Speaker 2: and obviously had to kind of sit for a lot
Speaker 2: of this year as he recovered from from an injury
Speaker 2: that I think that's that's a breakout candidate for this team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned something there that reminds me of a
Speaker 1: comment that Chris Greer made. It must have been three
Speaker 1: or four years ago. At this point where he talked
Speaker 1: about like the two year kind of snapshot, how this
Speaker 1: team doesn't just you know, prepare for what's ahead, but
Speaker 1: they have the long term, you know, the long term
Speaker 1: outlook to kind of prepare for things. And like this
Speaker 1: year's class is that tenfold right? Your future left tackle
Speaker 1: when you knew that you probably well not probably, but
Speaker 1: maybe your left tackle could be retiring. Kendall Lamb certainly
Speaker 1: came out and was more clear about his intentions. You
Speaker 1: talk about the safety group that the expiring contracts, you
Speaker 1: talk about you know, the running back position with Raheem
Speaker 1: and Jeff being a year older, Like they were very
Speaker 1: aggressive in their approach to make sure they were prepared
Speaker 1: for future years. And like the growth of that group
Speaker 1: in addition to this year with they projected ten picks.
Speaker 1: I kind of think that's the story of the Dolphins
Speaker 1: right now, is what happens with these young players and
Speaker 1: trying to get more contributions from guys on those wiki contracts.
Speaker 1: And with that in mind, Kyle, we have you on
Speaker 1: today because, like I said, you were going to be
Speaker 1: a both the All Star Games, and I like how
Speaker 1: they on that real quick. No, please don't want Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I think people are going to hear this kind
Speaker 2: of conversation and they're they're gonna hear about young players
Speaker 2: that were brought in with a two year or three
Speaker 2: year snapshot in mind, and we're going to talk a
Speaker 2: lot about the draft picks and kind of the transition
Speaker 2: of a lot of this roster. And transition I think
Speaker 2: is an appropriate word to invoke when when we talk
Speaker 2: about where this team is at right now versus what
Speaker 2: the last couple of years of the nucleus of the
Speaker 2: team look like. But teams can compete throughout a transition,
Speaker 2: and I think that like, it's not a guarantee that
Speaker 2: it happens, but you can transition. Look at the Rams,
Speaker 2: right Like the Rams had the Super Bowl and then
Speaker 2: they had the regression year, and they for forever were
Speaker 2: not draft capital oriented at all. They were trading all
Speaker 2: their premium assets for players with second contracts. And you
Speaker 2: saw the Dolphins lean into that a little bit with
Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb and Tyreek Hill and the on. What happened
Speaker 2: was the Rams embraced this dramatic youth movement where they
Speaker 2: had it might have been close to fifty percent of
Speaker 2: their roster was rookies and undrafted free agents, and they
Speaker 2: made the playoffs. And then they followed that up again
Speaker 2: with the draft class that had Jared Verst and Braden
Speaker 2: Fizz in addition to a bunch of other contributors, and
Speaker 2: they're one of the younger teams in the league, and
Speaker 2: they made the playoffs again, and they won a playoff game,
Speaker 2: and they took the Eagles to the wire in.
Speaker 3: The Divisional round thirteen yards away.
Speaker 2: So I think that that's what I would point to,
Speaker 2: is that is a program that underwent a transition very
Speaker 2: similar to like probably what a lot of Dolphins fans
Speaker 2: are expecting from a magnitude of change with the roster
Speaker 2: that the Dolphins are going to undertake, and you hope
Speaker 2: they find the right players to bring into be a
Speaker 2: piece of that, because that being in transition doesn't have
Speaker 2: to mean you throw your hands up and say, ah,
Speaker 2: well forget it.
Speaker 4: The games don't mean anything right now.
Speaker 2: And I think that's what makes like this conversation we're
Speaker 2: about to have about the All Star events and all
Speaker 2: the prospects that are there all that much more exciting
Speaker 2: because it's it's who are the right ingredients to put
Speaker 2: into a transition to help make the transition set up
Speaker 2: a really bright.
Speaker 4: Future window for the team.
Speaker 1: That I mean, Kyle, that's why you're a regular guest
Speaker 1: on the show because you know, we had this conversation
Speaker 1: on a text previously about playing it as it lies
Speaker 1: and talking about the team from a perspective of what's happened,
Speaker 1: what could happen, and like, you know, to take it
Speaker 1: further than the Rams. Look at the Vikings and the Lions,
Speaker 1: Like the Lions obviously have been on this trajectory that
Speaker 1: most teams don't really get to enjoy. Usually it's like
Speaker 1: you finish a year strong, you get the hype, you
Speaker 1: kind of regress, maybe in year three you break out.
Speaker 1: The Lions have been that that studay trajectory team. But
Speaker 1: if you look at their draft class from two years ago,
Speaker 1: like they were maligned across the board because they took
Speaker 1: a running back, a linebacker, a tight end, and I
Speaker 1: think it was a safety and Brian Branch and you know,
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta and Jamior Gibbs and Jack Campbell are all
Speaker 1: like studs now and just pick.
Speaker 3: Good football players.
Speaker 1: And like the Vikings and I can I will still
Speaker 1: like back this idea that they had bad process and
Speaker 1: some things with some of the trade capital they gave
Speaker 1: up to go get guys like uh like JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: and Dallas Dallas Turner and like that all happened, and
Speaker 1: that that quarterback got hurt and then Sam Donald takes
Speaker 1: them to a fourteen win season. So like you can
Speaker 1: have these things that maybe you don't think look great
Speaker 1: on paper, you don't agree with, you think it could
Speaker 1: be like a bad process, but like the football games
Speaker 1: still have to get played. That's why I love what
Speaker 1: you said there, because you're gonna go into this offseason
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear a bunch of doom and gloom
Speaker 1: about cap and loss of players and trajectory and it
Speaker 1: getting like they're only gonna win.
Speaker 3: Like maybe that'll be the prediction.
Speaker 1: Maybe you won't get enjoy a whole summer of content
Speaker 1: that's kind of hyping you up.
Speaker 3: But who cares. Who cares?
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter come September eighth, whatever it is. I
Speaker 1: just think it's a really good perspective, Kyle. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you for cutting me off right th that that
Speaker 1: was very good and something we had to cover here.
Speaker 3: Kyle.
Speaker 1: You said it all Man hosting the Lockdown Dolphins podcast,
Speaker 1: host of Lockdown NFL Scouting, author of Touchdown Miami and
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft lead for the thirty third team at
Speaker 1: Kyle crabs on Social, Kyle, appreciate it, man, I know
Speaker 1: you're up against the deadline. Go ahead and write that story.
Speaker 1: Get the heck out of here. Thank you again, my friend.
Speaker 4: Thanks Travis.
Speaker 1: All right, there he goes. We're gonna have Kyle back
Speaker 1: on for the Monday show. He and I talked about
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. I'll go ahead and put that out
Speaker 1: there on Monday, along with the safety capsule.
Speaker 3: I think is where I'm gonna go next.
Speaker 1: Trying to get the lighter positions done first and get
Speaker 1: myself ahead for receiver, offensive line, the positions that take
Speaker 1: more and more time to do.
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