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Speaker 1: It's I'm a little tired. It's it's the middle of

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Speaker 1: They're not hunting, but they're coming along for the camping

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Speaker 1: in the adventure, which is what I really care about.

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Speaker 1: But today, uh, Jordan and I are going to run

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Speaker 1: ripped through a couple of recent adventures that we've had

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Speaker 1: and UH talk about some of the gear that really

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Speaker 1: excelled on those adventures. First off, I ran my first

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Speaker 1: I guess they call it an all to marathon. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know this until recently, but I guess anything over

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Speaker 1: This was a fifty K, which is thirty one miles. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and it was It's called the rut run. Happened down

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Speaker 1: it went well. Trained almost a year, I started training

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Speaker 1: best elk cunning shape that of ever been in at

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Speaker 1: the at the spry age of forty four. A couple

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Speaker 1: about that really have excelled, not just in this race,

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Speaker 1: One is good. Or sunglasses. Have you seen those yet?

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Speaker 1: Jordan's I haven't, dude, twenty five bucks I think for

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Speaker 1: like their base model, and I've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: of sunglasses that are upwards of like two bucks, you

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Speaker 1: and stuff you know, we used to always have you know,

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Speaker 1: them back on. These goods, I kid you not, You

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Speaker 1: just don't slip now, Bucks, I don't think you're getting

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Speaker 1: much when you're out in the out running or out hunting.

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Speaker 1: But like for for a good pair of Fueld sunglasses

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Speaker 1: for twenty bucks, man like incredible value there, Like everybody

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Speaker 1: But yeah, when they invited me along, I was like,

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Speaker 1: It was not by any means like the hit that

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Speaker 1: you can go to the Meteor website, go to podcasts,

429
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Speaker 1: find this podcast, find this episode, and then comment underneath

430
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Speaker 1: it there on what you'd like to see in early

431
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: season pants. Geordan, what have you thought so far about

432
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: the early season pant? They? I really like him. I

433
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: use them pretty much most of September. Really lightweight, like

434
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 1: the venting options are pretty on point. I think I

435
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: even wore it the first week of October in Wyoming

436
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: for a hunt that that I went on with a

437
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: buddy and just putting wick bottoms underneath of it, Like

438
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: it really got me into that October season, especially if

439
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: you're on hot. I really don't, and that's one of

440
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Speaker 1: the reasons I wanted to take it on that hunt

441
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: a little later, Like the mornings were definitely cool, and

442
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to see what I could push it to

443
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: and uh with bass layers on underneath, and then you know,

444
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: of course, if you really want to, you can just

445
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 1: throw puffy pants over the top of it. I didn't

446
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: do that, but um, it was really nice. It's really

447
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: nice pants, especially in in some of those you know,

448
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: October seasons like we're in now where it's it's really

449
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: cold in the mornings. In the evenings like it can

450
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: be like sixteen, you know, fifteen, twenty whatever in the mornings,

451
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: and then in the middle of the day it's like

452
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: six and seventy. So you really need to be able

453
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Speaker 1: to adapt to the changing temperatures. And I think that

454
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: I really like those early season pants and even you know,

455
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: pushing many of the colder months. Any like constructive notes

456
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: that you're gonna give to for changes on those pants.

457
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: The one set of the one set of zippers in

458
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: the front of the vent those are connected to the pockets,

459
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: so you can't really use your pockets if you want

460
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: those vented, which I think is a little goofy. So

461
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: that's definitely one thing I'm going to talk about. But

462
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: other than that, I don't really have anything that you

463
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Speaker 1: have something. Well, I think I had that same note

464
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Speaker 1: and other people have too. And so if you're at

465
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Speaker 1: home listening, we're talking about is that the cargo pocket

466
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Speaker 1: itself has a zipper down the edge of it, the

467
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: inside edge, so sort of like your inner thigh, and

468
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: it basically creates a like a kind of a baffled

469
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Speaker 1: opening into the pocket, which the pocket is mesh on

470
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: the inside, so it creates another vent. But like Jordan

471
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Speaker 1: just said, when you open that vent, it sort of

472
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 1: negates the pocket because now you've like opened the pocket

473
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Speaker 1: wide open, and if you had something in it, it

474
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: could possibly fall out. So I think that they were thinking, like, oh,

475
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Speaker 1: it's a good way to sort of get too uses

476
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Speaker 1: out of one thing. But I think pockets have to

477
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: be able to hold some stuff, you know, securely always,

478
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: because it's just gonna happen right where you're gonna forget.

479
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: You're gonna open it up and you're you're gonna forget

480
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Speaker 1: that you had whatever your extra release in there, I

481
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, your head lamp, and it's gonna

482
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: fall out and then you're gonna be bumming. So Anyways, Well,

483
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Speaker 1: like I said, please help us make these early season

484
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Speaker 1: pants the best they can be. UM, tell us what

485
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: would be important for you to see an early season

486
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Speaker 1: pant by commenting uh in the comments under this episode

487
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Speaker 1: on the gear Talk podcast page on the Mediator website. Cool.

488
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Speaker 1: All right, Jordan, you got less than ten minutes to

489
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: tell me all about your how you killed that big

490
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: monster buck in Idaho. Yeah? So, Uh, I guess the

491
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: story really starts in September. We had hunted a bunch

492
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: found a big buck opening day of archery season, and

493
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: uh about a week later, so ended up finding out

494
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: that but got killed. So UM ended up backing out,

495
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: and more so, given that spot a breather, you know,

496
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 1: I just felt like we hunted it out really well.

497
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I went to another spot, UH hunted with my wife

498
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: a bunch and she shot at a bucket forty yards

499
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: and missed just right over the top of him on

500
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: an awesome stock. And we're trying to figure out what

501
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: to do for a rifle season, like go go to

502
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: where we had seen some more dear but there's probably

503
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna be more people, or or go back to where

504
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: we had archery hunted and probably see less people, a

505
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: little more challenging to get into, but it is like

506
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: a commitment and when you're in there, you're kind of

507
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: stuck in that one spot unless you're gonna completely pack out.

508
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: So ended up deciding, like the weather was going to

509
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: be pretty good, we decided we wanted to go back

510
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: into the high country and try where we did for archery.

511
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: So this is a bit of uh, it's one of

512
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: those right place, right time kind of stories, Johnnie. We

513
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: uh we packed everything from from the house, and what

514
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: we were doing is we're actually on our you know,

515
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: quote unquote we call it hunting moon, but it's kind

516
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: of like our honeymoon. Uh three weeks. There's like four

517
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: different states that we were hitting for for deer, so

518
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: Idaho was starting out. That was the first stop. So

519
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: we were packing stuff for three weeks and uh so

520
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: it just took us a little longer than normal, left

521
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: the house later than we wanted to to try to

522
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: get packed in. As just often happens. Driving to the

523
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: trailhead come around this little corner in this pocketed trees,

524
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: a buck bolts across the road in front of us,

525
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: and we see it for you know, a couple of

526
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: seconds but we think it looks like a good buck,

527
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: but we can't understand why he's down near the road.

528
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: Just didn't make much sense. So we talked it over,

529
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: because you're just thinking that all the bucks should be

530
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: up higher an elevation, yeah, more more so. And there's

531
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Speaker 1: just like that was a fairly major road that he

532
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: ran across. Like I just couldn't understand I guess why

533
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 1: he was that close to where pressure would be. So

534
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: we talked it over a little bit, and we're like, Okay,

535
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: we can pack back into this drainage. We don't know

536
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: what's back there anymore because I haven't got a chance

537
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: to scout it since we left during archery season, but

538
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: we know where a buck is right here, and he

539
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: looked pretty good. We should at least try to find him.

540
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: So that was the day before the opener Um opening

541
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: morning sets out. We get to a glassy knob that

542
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: is on the same drainage, So we're looking at probably

543
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: six yards and in about to where we had seen

544
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: the well at the upper end of where we've seen

545
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: the deer. I knew I didn't think he'd be like

546
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: right next to the road again, you know, I just

547
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: figured that was kind of a fluke deal. So I

548
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: started looking more up in the high country from there,

549
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: higher country, you know, up towards the top of the

550
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: drainage type of thing. And we glass opening day, there

551
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: was a lot of people around Glass, like across the

552
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: road that you that you were driving on. We actually

553
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: we didn't know. We we walked up the drainage quite

554
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: a bit, like more towards the top of just like

555
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: looking on on X where I thought a buck would

556
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: want to be, if you know, if we see him

557
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: in there, where do I think he would go? Like

558
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking towards the top of that ridge, and

559
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: and there were some openings and things like that, but

560
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 1: still pretty timbered up. So we were glass and probably

561
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: six yards and in opening morning, there were a lot

562
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: of people around. There were people like you could hear

563
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: him down like driving the roads. There were people walking

564
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: down the ridges, walking up the ridges. There's a guy

565
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: who actually walked right through the middle of where I

566
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: really thought that there would be. And I'm kind of thinking, gosh,

567
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: how long do we give this before we just go

568
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: pack in and do our original plan? Well, uh, we

569
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: decided to give it the full day and the next

570
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: morning and then we were going to pack in, so

571
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: we I decided that instead of getting so close like

572
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: six hundred yards and in like that's kind of close

573
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: to a drainage if you can't see the whole thing.

574
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: So we decided, uh, that evening, we're just going to

575
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: back it up. So we just ended up taking a

576
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: little bit of the road system and then uh walking

577
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: out onto a big long ridge that kind of gave

578
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you like a big picture of view of where we

579
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: had seen the deer. Like you could see a couple

580
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: of drainages, you could see openings pretty good, just got

581
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: open things up a little more, and man, like six o'clock,

582
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: six thirty in the afternoon, the only deer we had

583
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: seen was this buck and in a little opening actually

584
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: right underneath of the glassing point that we had been on.

585
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: And he's there feeding at six thirty in the afternoon

586
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: and opening the deer season. And you know, for where

587
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: we were, he was pretty like wide out in the open.

588
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Everybody could see him, and I think we just happened

589
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: to see him first. So we uh kind of I guess,

590
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: drove back around the road system till we could hike,

591
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: and we took off climbing and hiking and got up

592
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: pretty close to where we thought he was. And it

593
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: was one of those places where like you were going

594
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: to shoot from six yards or you're gonna shoot from like,

595
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: you know, less than two hundred type of a deal.

596
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: And we got we got in pretty close to him.

597
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: We were I think my last range I got was

598
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: like one six and uh he was speeding on this

599
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: open hillside and it was pretty it was pretty uh

600
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: pretty tight with trees, like I really had to move

601
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: around a bit and find just a little lane to

602
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: shoot through, and uh man, that was pretty much. It

603
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: settled my crossairs and and shot him and he went

604
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: fifty yards maybe into his little like a little cut,

605
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: a little drainage type not really a drainage, a little

606
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: cut in the hill. And that's where we found him.

607
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: And that kicked us off for dear season the hunting moon.

608
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: I love that. I love that term. What was that

609
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: approach like? Because to me, when if it's like a

610
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: still evening, you're running out of time because you only

611
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: found him at six six thirty, there can't be that

612
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: much daylight left, and you're going to within two hundred

613
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: yards of of you know, nice mature buck like was

614
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: it a quiet approach, like when was that when you

615
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: were after you left him and you couldn't see him

616
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: anymore and you started the approach. How far was he

617
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: away when you've refound him? When we re found him,

618
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: is a two yards? Yeah, Like it was. Yeah, I

619
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: kind of had to make that. And it was really tight,

620
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: like he easily could have been over a little fold

621
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: or something, and you weren't going to see him until

622
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: you were on top of him, and that was part

623
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: of my worry. And we just hauled ass and tried

624
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: to climb up there as fast as we could, and yeah,

625
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: it was. It was just the only thing I can

626
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: contribute it to is a little bit like right place,

627
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: right time, Like things just stars aligned, you know, and

628
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: we could have I thought about trying to go on

629
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the drainages him and shoot across,

630
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: but again that was I mean, it was probably gonna

631
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: be six hundred yards, and I was like, man, I

632
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: just really want to get I wanted to get closer

633
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: than that, and our only other option was to go

634
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: straight pretty much straight to him, and so I said,

635
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: all right, we're just gonna um. He was on the

636
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: shady side of the hill. So I knew the thermals

637
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: were probably pushing down so our wind would be okay.

638
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: And I said, we just got a haul ass until

639
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: we're close to where we think that little pocket is,

640
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: and then we're just gonna have to go slow and

641
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, move a little bit in glass, move a

642
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: little bit in glass, and I could pick him up

643
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: through the trees and there was quite a bit of

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Speaker 1: like brushing between us. So, um, I think he looked

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Speaker 1: down our direction a couple of times, and it got

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Speaker 1: me a little worried because he could have just you know,

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Speaker 1: when it been in the trees and four steps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a dream buck. Did you put a

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Speaker 1: tape on him? Yeah? So I wonder if our pictures

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Speaker 1: weren't kind of the same thing as you were talking

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Speaker 1: about on your elk. I mean, hold on, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I was gonna already send you a number via tacks

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Speaker 1: when he sent me the picture, but I'm gonna guess

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Speaker 1: did he's one? So we tapped him at one sixty

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Speaker 1: eight yesterday. Oh yeah, God, he looks like he looks

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Speaker 1: like you could tell anybody that that's a one eighty

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Speaker 1: buck and they'd be like, Okay, dude. I totally agreed.

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Speaker 1: And when I when I his main beams are twenty

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Speaker 1: and when I measured that, I was like, man, those

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Speaker 1: are I feel like that's a buck that would tricky

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Speaker 1: a little on on the Hidah. It's well, it just

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00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: goes to show you like that in buck is a

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Speaker 1: great buck. Yeah, and box are like unicorns. They're just

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Speaker 1: you know, they're they're hard to find. You gotta hunt,

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00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, harder for him. But like, yeah, that's it's

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00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: a sweet, sweet buck, you know, um, and you should

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00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: be proud of it. Oh, I'm super proud of him. Man,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was awesome. We we joked a little bit. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, we hunt together. My wife and I hunt

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00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: together a lot, and we do the shooter gets first shot,

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00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: deal spot gets first shot. Yeah, yeah, And uh it

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00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: was funny because when we just sat down, she was taken.

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Speaker 1: She was taking a picture of something that would look

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Speaker 1: cool with like me and this but sunset or whatever

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Speaker 1: she was doing. Oh alright, real quick, we're running out

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Speaker 1: of time. But with any real like gear highlights that

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00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: popped out for you on your on that mule deer hunt, No,

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Speaker 1: not nothing really big. I was using a new pair

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Speaker 1: of boots from Crispy called the Altitudes and uh, that's

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00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: a really good light fast boot that I really liked

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00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 1: a lot people should look at. And and that's pretty

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Speaker 1: much it. There was nothing, nothing really big. Everything I

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Speaker 1: was using was pretty tried and true. Nice. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be back soon to tell you more about

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Speaker 1: Jordan's hunting Moon and the hunts that I've got for

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Speaker 1: line up for the rest of the fall. And remember,

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Speaker 1: please comment on our the podcast web page on the

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Speaker 1: meat Eater site. Uh, not only about those early season pants,

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Speaker 1: but also just in general, what else you would like

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Speaker 1: us to talk about here on gear talk. Um, if

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Speaker 1: you even maybe personally know of a great gear expert

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Speaker 1: that can speak to a certain piece of gear or

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Speaker 1: gear technology, whoever might be, uh, comment let us know. Um.

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Speaker 1: You can also send an email into gear talk at

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Speaker 1: the meat eater dot com. Thanks again for listening. Jordan

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Speaker 1: is good catching up and uh yeah, good luck on

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Hunting Moon and we'll talk soon. Thanks. Yeah,