1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: to the show, Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you so 3 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. In the spirit of Hallowayne. Having 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: just survived what could writefuly be called a terrifying time 5 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: on multiple levels, we have decided to do one more episode. 6 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: By decided, I obviously mean that we just didn't get 7 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: to it before October three one, and it was on 8 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: the docket. And you know, we respect the docket. Here 9 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: in Ridiculous History, we have nothing if not respect for 10 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: the docket um a k a. The research docket provided 11 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: to us by the lovely and talented Gabe Luizier. That's true. Yeah, 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: so thank you for this one, Gabe. We liked it 13 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: so much. We've always already built a fictional kind of 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: vapor wave band around this that we're calling stove Goblin. 15 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: I feel like at this point we've talked off air 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: more about this episode than we might talk about it 17 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: in the episode. So here's the deal. Everybody's listened to. 18 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: The Greenbrier Ghost remembers our exploration of the one time 19 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: in US legal history where the testimony of a ghost 20 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: lead to a guilty verdict. UH and what's extraordinary about 21 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: that is that supernatural things often get kind of dismissed 22 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: by government authorities. And that should be the case, because 23 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: otherwise you end up with things like the Inquisition in 24 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: which trials. But it's not always the case. Because in 25 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: nineties in Spain, true story, multiple government agencies were summoned 26 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on with a supposed 27 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: well a goblin. Right, yeah, and you know, I mean 28 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: you always hear government officials talk about the spirit of 29 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: the law, but this is a different kind of spirit entirely. 30 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: This is uh, let's call it the spirit of the 31 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: stove pipe, the spirit of the what do you what 32 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: do you would you say, Ben, the spirit of the hearth, 33 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the hearth, the hearth. Yeah, let's see spirit of the stove. 34 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: I like for the alliteration. Also, I don't know a 35 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: spirit of the stove. I love it. That doesn't matter 36 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: where we're working life here, as you will say from 37 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: time to time. Then, but you're right. This story of 38 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: spiritual shenanigans begins in September of nineteen thirty four in 39 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: a city in Spain called And I've been waiting a 40 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 1: long time to be able to say this properly right 41 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: with the Castilian Spanish that spelled two zas, that's right. 42 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: And I only know this because there was a episode 43 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: of Curb Your Enthusiasm in the most recent season that 44 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: revolves around a restaurant, a Spanish restaurant called Fota Gotha, 45 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: and they say it in the episode, probably like fifty times. 46 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: And they also uh say laciento a lot, which I 47 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: believe means excuse me or I'm sorry. It's like forgive me, 48 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: forgive me exactly. And then at some point the slight 49 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: spoiler for an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, um Larry 50 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: and his crew get punched in the face or they 51 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: like something happens where they end up like all having 52 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: this kind of lisp. So everyone thinks they're making fun 53 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: of them because they have this lisp because of an 54 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: injury they all uh incurred and it leads to Shenanigan's 55 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: as you could imagine. But this story begins in September 56 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty four in the second home of a 57 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: family um in Fara called the Palathone family. And I'm 58 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: going to do the the sound for the z sound 59 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: as well. Uh not making fun, it's just I think 60 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: it is the way like Abitha, that's how you say it, 61 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: or um. But they lived in an apartment building that 62 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: is in an area that was at the time known 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: as Gascon Gatur Street and um that was when this 64 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: family first started to hear some very unusual and bone 65 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: chilling sounds that seemed to emanate from the walls in 66 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: their kitchen. Uh, specifically from the stove and the chimney 67 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: attached to the stove. Yeah, our first encounter with this 68 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: mysterious voice comes from the family made Pascuala Alcosser, who 69 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: was the first really connect with this goblin. She reached 70 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: for the stove and then she heard a voice say, 71 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: let's eat me. So she switched off the lights ran 72 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: out of the room as you do, and when she did, 73 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the voice shouted, light, I can't see. And she said later, 74 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, the voice had a pleasant tone, but it 75 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: had kind of a manic, unnerving energy. Uh. These these 76 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: folks weren't crazy, superstitious or anything. They were well aware 77 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: that the chimney connected to a lot of other units 78 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: in the apartment building before it made its smoky way 79 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to the roof. So they thought, okay, well, somebody in 80 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: the building is doing something screwy. But uh, also this 81 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: really scared the maid. Pascuala heard the voice calling her 82 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: by name and then laughing, So it's like Pasquala, Oh 83 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, that freaked me out for sure. Um, but they, 84 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, they were able to kind of explain it away. 85 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: Although you're right, Ben, Pascuala was totally freaked out, and 86 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: so she went and woke up her her boss, the 87 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: mistress of the house, to explain to her what happened. 88 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: And then over the course of the next few days, 89 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: this voice would occasionally appear, sometimes very early in the morning, 90 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: as early as five am, calling out to the maid 91 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: in particular, that freaked me out too, and and sometimes 92 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: it was you know, it was all kind of kitchen centric, 93 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: so if there were others hanging out in the kitchen, 94 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: they would sometimes be the butt of this particular voices 95 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: jokes as well. So let's describe the voice. The voice 96 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: seemed to be Mail. And the first thing the palatal 97 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: and family does is ask their neighbors for help. They say, hey, 98 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: come here, do you hear this? Or we are made crazy? 99 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Let's get a second opinion. Well, first of all, I'm 100 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: sure there was the business of going around and saying, Hey, okay, 101 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: who's the wise guy. That's that's that's messing with us, 102 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: and then terrorizing our maide. And when everyone was like, 103 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, Um, okay, well 104 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: it looks like there might be something sinister of it, 105 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: so could you please give us your thoughts and uh. 106 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: It eventually became kind of the consensus in the building 107 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: that this was something called in Spanish a duende, which 108 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: means an elf or a goblin. Yeah, think of something 109 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: roughly similar to sprites, goblins, fairies, and Western folklore. These 110 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: are in the world of folklore, often descended from nature spirits. 111 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: They can have all kinds of traits uh, and they 112 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: can have all kinds of influences and motivations. They can 113 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: be little mischievous scamps. They can be kind of benevolent 114 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: and helpful for your house and your household chores. Or 115 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: they can be real, real pains in the key star, 116 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, like Kevin McAllister in in Home Alone, that 117 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: level of prankeri. So by now the whole apartment building 118 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: has heard the voice of the stove goblin, and other 119 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 1: people in the neighborhood are getting interested. They would crowd 120 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: around the house try to see if they could hear it, 121 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: that's right, And it actually kind of already took on 122 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: a moniker of the Vagotha Duende, and that was really 123 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: starting to pique people's curiosity. And you know, everyone had 124 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: heard about this mysterious voice and they wanted to pop 125 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: by and see if they too could catch a little 126 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: moment of this uh you know, supernatural uh conversation. And 127 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: the Palatone family um was kind of perplexed. I mean, 128 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: it was kind of on the one hand, interesting to 129 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: be the center of so much attention, but it's like 130 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: it's sort of a lot and you know, there were 131 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: private people and all of a sudden, you know, they're 132 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 1: becoming the kind of ground zero for this supernatural occurrence, 133 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: and it was a lot to to deal with. The 134 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: maid in particular, continued to be sort of the focus 135 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of this voices, uh you know communications, right, yeah, yeah, 136 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: we see a commonality. There was something often report it 137 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: in cases of alleged Poulter Geist activity. Right, there's someone 138 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: who's singled out, typically female, often young, and they become 139 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: like the friend of the Poulter guist or the friend 140 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: of the spirit or it's victim number one, and it 141 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: seems like poor Pascuale was victim number one for the 142 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: stove Goblin. The family can't figure it out. They're like, 143 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: look spirit or uh, chimney work. Either way, this is 144 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: driving us crazy. We need an answer, so they go 145 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: to the police in November. This happened on September. That's 146 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: the first recorded incident. So by mid November, Uh, they 147 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: have reached out to local law enforcement, and we don't 148 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: know if the police would The police ordinarily would have 149 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: ignored something like this, but it was getting so much 150 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: attention from the public that they were worried it was 151 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: maybe gonna trigger mass hysteria. So they got involved, which 152 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: was a mistake on their part because this made the 153 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Goblin's voice even more popular, and the crowd soon numbered 154 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: in the hundreds waiting outside the house to see what 155 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: the police we find. So picture this. These guys go 156 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: into this house. These are actual working police officers and 157 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: they say, okay, we've got to investigate this stove. I 158 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: guess and we don't know exactly, uh exactly how they started, 159 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: but we know there, we know that the stove Goblin 160 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: did talk to them, and we have uh, we have 161 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: the account of what the police were saying. One guy 162 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: started in immediately and again he's talking to a stove 163 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: and he goes, who are you, Why are you doing this? 164 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: What do you want money? No? He said, well you're 165 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: looking for a job. Also No, And now the police 166 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: officer got really annoyed and he said, well, and who 167 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: are you? What do you want? Man? Nothing? I am 168 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: not a man. Oh my gosh, chilling. And at this 169 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: point even the police were completely flummox and they are 170 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: to them it's clear that there's something going on they 171 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: can't fully explain. And in the first article written about 172 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: the Thodegosta Goblin, it was called a polite Spanish ghost. 173 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: The London Times wrote this up and it was published 174 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: in November twenty, nineteen thirty four, and they described it 175 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: as such that an architect and some workmen were sent 176 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: into the building to root out the cause of this, 177 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: you know, obnoxious voice. And they turned the place upside 178 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: down and looked everywhere from the seller up to the 179 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: attic and checked out all the infrastructure and the piping 180 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: and all of that. Like you said, it would travel 181 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: throughout the building. But they couldn't find any evidence of 182 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: who might be playing this prank. And even one of 183 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: the work has stood in front of the goblin stove 184 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: in question and decided that it would be a good 185 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: idea to measure the opening. And I said that out loud, 186 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: and that the voice replied, you need not trouble The 187 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: diameter is just six inches. And the goblin was right, 188 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: which is the weirdest part of it. So now people 189 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: are baffled. The architect of the buildings, some construction workers, 190 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: the police, and of course this poor family UH still 191 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: mostly believe this is a hoax. They're not ready to 192 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: call it a case of the supernatural yet. But the 193 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: cops say, look, we're gonna have your family relocated to 194 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: another residence and we're going to thoroughly investigate this. And 195 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: as soon as the neighbors heard about this, word spreads 196 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: and the community starts panicking. No one knows what this 197 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: thing is, No one knows where this goblin could be. Eventually, 198 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: police involving tears completely evacuate the building of every resident 199 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: and guard it morning and night. They have a thirty 200 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: yard perimeter around the home. So whatever mischief maker was doing, 201 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: this voice wouldn't be able to return. As a matter 202 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: of fact, even cut off the power to the building 203 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: because they said, look, maybe it's a speaker or something. Doctor, psychologist, priest. 204 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: They all come in. The priest like blesses the snow 205 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: sprinkles it with holy water. According to the Times, the 206 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: voice wouldn't shut up. It just kept talking and talking 207 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: and talking for days. They even organized sightseeing trips from 208 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: a nearby town. And then one day, without explanation, the 209 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: stove goblin fell silent and people almost like started missing it. 210 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, we were like freaked out, 211 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: but now we realized, like this actually gave us something fun. 212 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Like the quister just so he's only obnoxious when he's around, 213 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: and then when he goes silence, when he goes to you, 214 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: ha uh, it starts to hurt your feelings a little bit. Um. 215 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 1: And it did absolutely fall silent after a couple of 216 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: days of silence. The local magistrate, who was kind of 217 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: pleased that this was sort of at least seeing an 218 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: end in sight to this uh you know, brewing panic, 219 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: he just decided to write it off as an anomaly 220 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: and had the police get out of there. But that's 221 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: not the end of the story, and there is a 222 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: very very unusual explanation. Yes, all right, it's two days 223 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: of silence had passed right to the Simon and garfuncle. 224 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: And people are getting people are getting a little sad 225 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: they missed the Goblin, and then also they're very irritated 226 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: that there was never a full explanation. The voice surprises 227 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: a group of neighbors and visitors who have returned to 228 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: the apartment building two days later. It says, cowards, cowards, cowards. 229 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: Here I am it is I thought goblin, And so 230 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: it's back. Now it's like it's it's officially back. The 231 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: police returned, but the family had had enough and they said, 232 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: forget this, we're leaving town. So they they're kind of 233 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: out of the picture for a while, and the voice 234 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: continue talking and a taunted police because she reports are 235 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: not confirmed that the Goblin threatened to kill everyone inside 236 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: the building. But the stuff we can confirm is more 237 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: like ha ha, here I'm back, but also has an 238 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Arab sinister to it. I'm coming, I'm coming, you know. Um. 239 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: But it didn't never really show up in any kind 240 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: of corporeal form. It always just remained a voice, you know, 241 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: coming from the stovepipe, and uh, the interest at this point, 242 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: after that little lull was back in full force too. 243 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: There was even a Barcelona radio station that was was 244 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: asked was kind of putting out the call for someone 245 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: to get a recording of it so they could broadcast 246 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: the voice. Um and even like because of the reporting 247 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: in the UK, members of Scotland yard we're talking about 248 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: planning trips to come and try and solve it, because 249 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: it really was becoming almost like a Homesyn kind of 250 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: mystery where it's like, it's gotta be a twist here, 251 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, everyone's still leaning into a rational explanation for this. 252 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: Then a November of that same year, November precise, the 253 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: governor of Saragosa had just had it up to here 254 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: and he just was done with this and he shut 255 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: it down. He asked people to stop coming around, stop 256 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: making such a fuss out of this, and he entreated 257 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: the public, rather than just continuing to feed this fervor, 258 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: to be helpful for Christ's sake, you know, come lend 259 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: a hand and help us, you know, crowdsource this thing 260 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: and figure out who this miss Jeves human being is 261 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: that's causing all this chaos. Yeah, and he goes into 262 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: pretty much pr damage control mode. So he makes a 263 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: unilateral decision. Basically, he has decided that he's going to 264 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: do a little bit of what we call post truth 265 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: narrative spin. So he just declares that the thing is over, 266 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: and he declares that they have figured out the perpetrator 267 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: of the voice. He says, the stove Goblin's real identity. Now, 268 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: picture you're everybody listening along, ridiculous historians. Picture your favorite 269 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 1: Scooby Doo seen where someone reaches over and takes the 270 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: mask off of the quote unquote ghost. It was Pastaualla, 271 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: the maid. Yes, that's what he says. He says, it's Pascualla. 272 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: And his explanation, I know where a family shows censor 273 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: me on this casey, his explanation is bullsh It's like 274 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: lazy at that. He says, she's been doing this voice, 275 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: but it's not really her fault. She's been suffering from 276 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: unconscious ventriloquism. Very creative detective work here, I mean, yeah, 277 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: sort of like a fugue state. I guess you could 278 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: say that she was in some sign of some sort 279 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: of like psychologically induced reverie. And yeah, like unbeknownst to 280 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: her throwing her own voice and the you know, police 281 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: officials that were presiding over the case also backed up 282 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: the story, claimed to have seen it as well. Um, 283 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: and they chalked it up to a form of a 284 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: quote psychic phenomenon produced only in certain circumstances. That's my 285 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: response to that. Two thumbs down for me. Yeah, No, 286 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Ben, I'm with you. It's so there 287 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: are some arguments that make this, uh, clearly not a 288 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: water tight case. First, people have heard this strange talking 289 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: in a male voice. No, people can change their voices 290 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: very easily. But people have heard the strange talking in 291 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: a voice that is very unlike Pascualace. More importantly, they've 292 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: heard it when she's nowhere near the premises. So what 293 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: was she doing it through a radio that just was 294 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: never found For city officials, they were done with the story. 295 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: We found a person that's the answer. Just like in 296 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: Brotherhood of the Wolf, you know what I mean, the 297 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: French Royalty makes them uh tax Jeremy a fake beast 298 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: of Gevaldon totally. And let's not forget as well, we 299 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: said this is really early on in the show that 300 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: the goblin's voice was a male voice, So you know 301 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: was was pasquala not only uh, subconsciously ventriloquizing, but also 302 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: like changing the gender of her voice. I'm not to 303 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: say that's not possible. You can certainly, like you know, 304 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: a woman can lower the sound of her voice. And 305 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: there's plenty of examples of women that can, you know, 306 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: do impressions of men um. Not that surprising, but it's 307 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: a little suspect. Yeah, So the court of public opinion 308 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: has ruled where the legal court could not, and they 309 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: said that this made was guilty of the whole hubbub. 310 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: But there's not any evidence to that, uh, And there's 311 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: no interest on anybody's part in arresting her or prosecuting 312 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: her for doing what talking to herself through a stove. 313 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: So she's allowed to skidaddle, and like the family she 314 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: worked for, she leaves town. She wants to get away 315 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: from the judging eyes of the community. And the story 316 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: still doesn't reach a good like a totally satisfying conclusion. 317 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: This is like our post credit stinger. Right, So Pascuala 318 00:20:55,560 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: leaves town. Fast forward December four Some please officers are 319 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: send in the son of the building's owner, yes, six 320 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: year old, right, and a child shall lead them. His 321 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: name is our Tourrialba. And he goes up to the 322 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: family stove, and he's frustrated by the communication, like all 323 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: this stuff happening because he's a six year old, you know, 324 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: he's kind of overwhelmed with all this stuff. And then 325 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: here's what he here's what he does. He says, this 326 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: whole thing is crazy from the mouths of babes. Uh. 327 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: He says that out loud though, right to which in 328 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: a pretty neat and tidy, cool little resolution, the voice responds, 329 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: not crazy, little one, not crazy. Oh that is like 330 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: a good like end of the you know, the conjuring 331 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: are like sinister, maybe a little less discussed, like you know, 332 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: gory and uh and utterly existentially dreadful, but it still 333 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: has that nice little twist. You know, it gives me 334 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: chills kind thing about it. But thus came the end 335 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: of the communication of the Thanagosta Goblin. I was never 336 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: heard from again. That's right, and uh, you know I've 337 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: mentioned it before. One of the craziest things about our 338 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: species is how quickly things become normal or go back 339 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: to normal, or how quickly we acclimate the things. So 340 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: very soon after this, people are just going about their 341 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: daily lives in the apartment building. Occasionally future tenants would 342 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: report ghostly sounds, but never something like the Goblin. In 343 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: seven the building was torn down. It was replaced with 344 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: a new complex and it's called a Dwinde or the 345 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: Goblin Building, to commemorate the phenomenon. I think that's cool. 346 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: But even now, in more than eighty years after this happened, 347 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: we still have no idea who was responsible for this, right, No, 348 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: we don't. And just to back up in time, a 349 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: little bit before the the building was torn down and 350 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: renamed Pasquala also Stare. The maid never really quite got 351 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: over the stigma attached to her potentially being this, you know, 352 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: sleepwalker voice thrower and uh. She did give an interview 353 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: late in life, within the twilight of her years, and 354 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: when she was asked where the voice was coming from, 355 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: she only answered the following from within the wall as 356 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: a double sew up, I love it from within the wall. 357 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: That could be the name of the of the of 358 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the movie. Um, I really liked this story. It's it's 359 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: got all. It's at least no one gets murdered or 360 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: like possessed, or nothing super nefarious happens. It's more or 361 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: less like a gremlin kind of situation that's sort of 362 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: just messing with people. But it is kind of shiver inducing, 363 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah, And I think they should have 364 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: asked better questions. Honestly, if you're if you're gonna talk 365 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: to a stove, go all in, you know what I mean, 366 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: own it, ask it questions about the stove, which I 367 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: feel like there's some hostage negotiations, some therapy structuring you 368 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: could have used to get answers. But I love that. 369 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: I love that the mystery remains. Just like we don't 370 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: know what the Beast of Jevldont was, we don't know 371 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: who perpetrated this and how they did it. Uh, we 372 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: can say we haven't found proof of you know, goblins, 373 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: but we also haven't been able to explain through mundane 374 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: means how it occurred. So I love this ghost story 375 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: and we're a little late with it. But this is 376 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: hollow Wayne, and this is the ultimate inspiration behind one 377 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: of the world's soon to be greatest shoegaze post rock 378 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: vape wave bands. Stove Goblin, Stove Goblin it is. And 379 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: let's just wrap this episode up like we did with 380 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: our voting episode, with just a little bit of etymology 381 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: behind the word goblin um. When you think of a goblin, 382 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, a lot of folks go to 383 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: maybe the Labyrinth movie with David Bowie or the excellent 384 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: Italian band. Of course I love love the band Goblin 385 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: that does all the Dario or Agento soundtracks. I think 386 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: of the goblins from the Rankin and Bass, the Hobbit 387 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: animated film, and there's that whole down down to goblin tone, 388 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, that whole bit and the goblins are pretty 389 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: terrifying and that and they like eat you know, Hobbits, 390 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: and you know, presumably children. But that's not really where 391 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: it comes from. It comes from the idea of a mischievous, uh, 392 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: not particularly attractive creature um, originating in Greece, perhaps with 393 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: the word caballos, which is essentially translated to mean like scoundrel. 394 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: And in this theory of the of the meaning of 395 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: the word caballos turned into the Latin and then the French, 396 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: where it became goblin yes or gobliness um, and that 397 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: is the idea of or used to describe a spirit 398 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: that was haunting the city of Evro back in the 399 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Middle Ages. And then goblin is further altered in the 400 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: English by the thirteen twenties as hobgoblin um and this 401 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know, Ben, you know you've ever heard of 402 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: a puck in Midsummer Night's Dream referred to as Robin 403 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Goodfellow the idea of the fawn, and that's where that 404 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: came from. Hobb is related to the word, the name 405 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: Robert or Robin, and of course goblin's are very common 406 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: in both ancient and modern fantasy. I do wanna, I 407 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: do want to point out that goblin for a time 408 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: has been used as an insult, and I think it's 409 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: a very good insult to use it. You goblin, Yeah, 410 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: like just call it and then add a little so 411 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: it's even more diminutive, like that little goblin? Uh uh? 412 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: Ellis how that works out? Also, please, we hope you 413 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. As they say every so often on occasion, 414 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: I would love to hear your favorite archaic insults of yesteryear. 415 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Bonus points if you can fool us with one that 416 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: you've made up that we think is is real, and 417 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: I promise I I won't immediately go to a search engine. 418 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: I also want to recommend a great series of comic 419 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: book slash graphic novels called Works and Goblins. It's uh, 420 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: it's fantastic, It's well written. I know that we have 421 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: been recommending some different comic books and books before, but 422 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: do check this one out if you get a chance. 423 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: I love to hear what you think. But how can 424 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: we tell you, guys what we think. How can we 425 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: give you our real or fictitious archaic insults of yesteryear? Why? 426 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: The answer is very simple. All you have to do 427 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: is whisper into your stove. If that doesn't work, find 428 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: us on the internet, Facebook, Twitter, etcetera. Whisper into your 429 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: browser in the form of yeah those things, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. 430 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: You can find ridiculous history in all those places. You 431 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: can also find Ben and I as human individual people. 432 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: I am at how Now Noel Brown pretty much exclusively 433 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and I am at Ben Bolan h s W. 434 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: I am at Ben Bolan on Instagram, and I am 435 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: at uh blood tractor on Farmers Only. That one of 436 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: those is not true. Love it well. Happy Halloween, y'all. 437 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean we decided that Halloween was just the spirit 438 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: of Halloween, uh, you know, extending into November. We came 439 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: up with that on the fly. It's not necessarily a 440 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: real thing, but maybe it is now. I think it 441 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: all started off with just a momentary misspeak on on 442 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: one of our parts. Um, and then we coin it, 443 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: and then now it's a thing, and it's a whole 444 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: new holiday tradition. Yes. Yes, Also hit us up with 445 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: your best ideas for traditional Halloween and celebrations UH in 446 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: the meantime, Thanks of course to I guess to my 447 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: very to this see accent for giving us UH an 448 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: accidental holiday. Thanks to Christopher Oscodas. Thanks to Alex Williams 449 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: who composed this amazing track. Yes, indeed, thanks to Jonathan 450 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: Strickling the quiz stare. Thanks to Gabe Louisier for all 451 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: the Halloween research and beyond um we we love you man. 452 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: We gotta have him back on the show very soon. 453 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: It's been too long, And send costume photos. Send your 454 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Halloween costume photos. We can't go trick or treating this year, 455 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: also because we're in our thirties. By the time you've 456 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: heard this, I will have done some COVID safe trick 457 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: or treating with my daughter and her her crazy cosplay friends. 458 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: They're more out, you know. Just to show off their 459 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: d I y anime outfits. Um, but hopefully that went well. 460 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts for 461 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple podcast, 462 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.