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Speaker 1: O Joe, your Bengals go on the road and secure
Speaker 1: the much needed win to improve the two and four
Speaker 1: beating the New York Giants seventeen zero on the road.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was nineteen of twenty eight two hundred and
Speaker 1: two yards clean games. He didn't turn it over. They
Speaker 1: ran the ball twenty times for one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: one yards. They didn't have a whole lot of plays.
Speaker 1: They only ran what forty nine total plays? That's not
Speaker 1: a lot, but they get the job done. Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: twenty two to forty one two five won an reception
Speaker 1: are horrible exception. The field goal kicker didn't make anything
Speaker 1: better because he missed two field goals. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball thirty one times for one nineteen one touchdown one touchdown.
Speaker 1: No Tracy had a rushing touchdown. Excuse me, no passing
Speaker 1: touchdown a rushing touchdown, and they lose. The Giants lose
Speaker 1: fall to two and four h and three at home.
Speaker 1: Bengals fault go to two and four to and away
Speaker 1: too and one away from home. Oh yeah, what did
Speaker 1: you like about this game?
Speaker 5: Listen?
Speaker 4: What I liked about this game? Hold on, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna starting with what I didn't like. What I
Speaker 4: didn't like is the offense. I didn't like the offense.
Speaker 4: I didn't like our offense. The Bengals obviously playing down
Speaker 4: to the competition that we are playing. And to give
Speaker 4: credit to the Giants defense that God damn Dexi.
Speaker 5: Lawrence and saluted the boys, sluted the boys.
Speaker 4: I just want to make sure I give him they
Speaker 4: credit and then give him the credit and what they
Speaker 4: were able to do, obviously they double chase for them.
Speaker 4: Really the entire dy of the night, Chase Brown had
Speaker 4: a good game. Tahiggins dog phenomenal, phenomenal. That's why I
Speaker 4: always called him a one a if you did watch
Speaker 4: the game in its entirety, t Higgins is a one a.
Speaker 5: Other than that, it was a good game. The play calling.
Speaker 4: To me, it's still a little bit vanilla for us
Speaker 4: to have the two weeks, the previous two weeks that
Speaker 4: we did offensively and to come in to play.
Speaker 5: The Giants and the Giants do what they did to
Speaker 5: us tonight.
Speaker 4: It just I just don't understand I just don't understand
Speaker 4: based on the type of games Burrow had the previous
Speaker 4: two weeks before the night. Other than that, defense defense
Speaker 4: played well. As bad as our defense has been this year,
Speaker 4: I think we're ranked damn near the bottom half when
Speaker 4: it comes in when it comes to the run, when
Speaker 4: it comes to that to the past.
Speaker 5: We we held them to seven point to night, and
Speaker 5: it was it was, it was. It was a good
Speaker 5: It was an ugly win, but it was a win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was ugly win, but it was a win.
Speaker 4: Other than that, I mean I got kind of nervous
Speaker 4: a little bit. I got kind of nervous towards the end.
Speaker 4: We needed two first downs to to to seal the game.
Speaker 5: And here we go. First down, run the ball. Here
Speaker 5: we go. Second down, run the ball, third down, sack
Speaker 5: Like oh ship, here we go again. Here we go again.
Speaker 4: About to throw the game because what I thought was
Speaker 4: gonna happen was at the wrong opportune time. The Giants
Speaker 4: went to go down and score and tied the god
Speaker 4: damn game. Yeah, but it didn't happen. We got away
Speaker 4: with this one. I think we got the Browns next week,
Speaker 4: hopefully we can we can pull off another one and
Speaker 4: just that fast. If we can win next week, you
Speaker 4: don dug us We done dug ourselves out that whole
Speaker 4: damn near.
Speaker 1: No, you're not, because the Ravens are not losing, and
Speaker 1: the the Ravens they're still winning.
Speaker 2: They've already beat you in your place.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't. I don't like the way you
Speaker 5: just rained on my parade. I didn't need that. I
Speaker 5: didn't need that.
Speaker 4: Let me feel let me feel good about my Bengals
Speaker 4: right now. We started out really bad. We was one
Speaker 4: and four. We won tonight.
Speaker 5: We two and four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are going to beat the Brown next week.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be I'm telling you We're gonna beat the
Speaker 4: Brown next week. I'm going out on the limit. I'm
Speaker 4: saying it, and I'm feeling good. Please don't run on
Speaker 4: my parade and on my team, because let's talk about
Speaker 4: your proncos.
Speaker 1: Are Are the Bengals playing better than the Ravens. Absolutely not,
Speaker 1: And they've already beat you and they're two games in
Speaker 1: front of you.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you something?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ravens started out fast and they hit their stride.
Speaker 4: I mean they started off slow and they hit their stride.
Speaker 4: We started off slow and we're just now hitting our stride.
Speaker 4: It just so happened the Ravens started hitting their stride
Speaker 4: before we did.
Speaker 1: You just said that you wouldn't happy considering the two
Speaker 1: offensive performance that you had last weekend.
Speaker 4: Now you get seventeen after score the third Nighty. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you have games like this. You played the game before.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you have games like this, and you know it's okay.
Speaker 4: It's okay. That's why the first thing I did was
Speaker 4: I gave salute to the three desons of players that
Speaker 4: were the best to night for the Giants because they
Speaker 4: played really well. And again salute the Loo as well
Speaker 4: because our defense played as well, and only and hell
Speaker 4: them to seven points.
Speaker 1: Man, look here, let's cut the bullgive Daniel Jones that
Speaker 1: don't do that. Daniel Jones is terrible. The first third quarter,
Speaker 1: they run a great play. Fate Slate Slaton runs a
Speaker 1: great dig route. He's wide open and he skips the
Speaker 1: ball to it. Yeah, oh cho, that is that is
Speaker 1: the most routine. He has no pressure, he had a
Speaker 1: great ball. Fate Slate runs a great route. Oh so
Speaker 1: you got to if you can't complete the routine, how
Speaker 1: are you gonna how are you gonna wakend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how.
Speaker 1: Why would you retreat you in field goal range? Why
Speaker 1: would you retreat and throw the ball up in the
Speaker 1: middle of the field. Ohoe, oh joe. That's that's high school.
Speaker 1: That's yes, that is so routine. I shouldn't even have
Speaker 1: to tell you. First of all, you never roll and
Speaker 1: then throw back across your body. You never retreat and
Speaker 1: throw the ball up in the middle of the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't. You don't. That's car the Carlinal rule
Speaker 5: number one.
Speaker 1: This is the NFL professional quarterback, and he makes the
Speaker 1: most bone headed plays that a high school player is
Speaker 1: taught not to do.
Speaker 2: A Jamia high player is not taught not to do.
Speaker 4: Yes, Now there's one person that's worse than him. So
Speaker 4: there's one quarterback in the NFL that's worse than him.
Speaker 2: Who is there?
Speaker 5: You played down in Tennessee?
Speaker 2: Oh, Will Levis? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: When we talk about bonehead plays and things you just
Speaker 4: cannot do, not even giving you a chance, the opportunity
Speaker 4: to win.
Speaker 5: But I don't mean the very off track.
Speaker 4: But but Daniel Jones didn't didn't didn't play very well tonight.
Speaker 4: He didn't give his chance, his teammate chance to win
Speaker 4: with some of the throws that he did make, You
Speaker 4: are correct, he might have been seeing ghost though.
Speaker 5: He might have been seeing ghosts because it does happen.
Speaker 4: When you get hit enough, you get sacked enough, you
Speaker 4: get rattled, you start doing things you don't normally do
Speaker 4: that our routine. It makes the routine things difficult.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the thing is, oh yoe. I
Speaker 1: just think your team is like really inconsistent. And the
Speaker 1: problem that you're gonna have is that your defense isn't
Speaker 1: very good. Now, you got away with one tonight because
Speaker 1: their offense is worse than your defense. But when you
Speaker 1: play a team that can put points on the board,
Speaker 1: I don't know how many games you're gonna win that
Speaker 1: who you play an offense that you scored seventeen points, This.
Speaker 2: Is the problem.
Speaker 5: The previous two weeks we were a team that can
Speaker 5: put points on the board. We've scored thirty thirty. We
Speaker 5: had thirty balls to pass two weeks in a row.
Speaker 2: But that's why I.
Speaker 5: Don't understand what the hell happening now.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You remember against Washington, how many
Speaker 1: times did you kick field goals in the red zone.
Speaker 2: That's what got you beat against the Commanders right right.
Speaker 1: Last week, you got the ball, you scored what five times,
Speaker 1: but when you needed it you threw it interception. Lad,
Speaker 1: you had the Chiefs on the rope, you fumbl the ball,
Speaker 1: They get a scoop and score. It's seeing your offense
Speaker 1: at the most inopportune times are not doing what they
Speaker 1: need to get done going up and down the field.
Speaker 2: You should be pleased.
Speaker 1: The one thing you should he pleased with the knight
Speaker 1: O joke is that when it was a ten to
Speaker 1: seven ball game and they got the ball back, they
Speaker 1: went down and got seven.
Speaker 2: You should be pleased with that.
Speaker 1: Because when the team can take the ball and says
Speaker 1: we're not going to give it back to you, or
Speaker 1: if we do give it back, you're going to be
Speaker 1: down two scores, you should be very very pleased with that.
Speaker 1: That is the mark of a team that says, okay,
Speaker 1: let's if we can just shut them down a little
Speaker 1: bit on defense.
Speaker 2: Defense.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you got to be the two thousand Ravens,
Speaker 1: but damn you can't give up forty one. You can't
Speaker 1: give up thirty three or whatever they gave up against
Speaker 1: the Commanders. But when you play the Giants, if you
Speaker 1: don't put the ball in harm's way, their offense can't
Speaker 1: consistently move the ball well enough to beat you because
Speaker 1: of that quarterback play. Now, they can dress it up
Speaker 1: all they want to and talk about this the offensive
Speaker 1: line and those receivers. He is not a good NFL quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's really that simple. The money aside. I don't care
Speaker 1: about the money. Hell, he's not a good quarterback for
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year because the routine throws he
Speaker 1: can make consistently. What do you think what.
Speaker 5: He's not a good quarterback for how much a year?
Speaker 2: Twenty million, fifteen?
Speaker 1: I mean, he just it's just hard to win when
Speaker 1: your quarterback play is that inconsistent.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, you're right.
Speaker 4: Listen, every team on every team, it's thirty two teams
Speaker 4: in the NFL, and every team, and just a quarterback away,
Speaker 4: a quarterback away from being good, a quarterback away from
Speaker 4: being in contention, a quarterback away of consistent quarterback play
Speaker 4: away from just being able to build and get your
Speaker 4: franchise going in the right direction.
Speaker 5: But the thing about the quarterback position.
Speaker 4: As we know, and you know, and those that are
Speaker 4: not casual fans of the game.
Speaker 5: No, that position is very difficult.
Speaker 4: It's the reason why they command the money that they
Speaker 4: do is the reason they command the money. Not command
Speaker 4: the money. But when the timing is off, sometimes you
Speaker 4: just have to pay it person because there's nothing out
Speaker 4: there for you. There's nothing else to go get. They
Speaker 4: had no choice but to pay Daniel Jones at the
Speaker 4: time when it was time.
Speaker 5: To pay him.
Speaker 4: I mean, where were you going? There was nowhere else
Speaker 4: to go. That's what That's what I call timing being right.
Speaker 4: The timing was right.
Speaker 5: There were no other options, and he was the best
Speaker 5: option for you.
Speaker 1: But see, that's when you ignore what you had seen
Speaker 1: the previous two and a half years and you base
Speaker 1: everything on one season they made the playoffs? But what
Speaker 1: did the previous two seasons tell you? So you ignore that.
Speaker 1: It says this is who he is. So you have
Speaker 1: a large sample size of who somebody is, but you
Speaker 1: take the small sample size. It's almost like being a relationship.
Speaker 1: Your girl is give you her, ask the kiss, except
Speaker 1: on your birthday, and you say, this is who my
Speaker 1: baby is.
Speaker 2: But what about the other? What about the other three
Speaker 2: sixty four? Right?
Speaker 1: So what about the large sample size of what you've
Speaker 1: seen Daniel Jones play and you seen the inefficiency and
Speaker 1: you've seen the ineffectiveness. Naw, we're gonna disregard that. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna say this is who he is and this
Speaker 1: is who he can be.
Speaker 2: Nain nine.
Speaker 5: But oh it's hard though, it's hard. It's hard. You
Speaker 5: know how difficult it is to find quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: And they still haven't found one quarterbacks that you can
Speaker 4: win with quarterbacks that can play consistently week in and
Speaker 4: week out. That is it's hard, and they paid forty
Speaker 4: million dollars and they still haven't found one. You can
Speaker 4: win just as many games as they're going to win
Speaker 4: with a guy that makes ten million, can you not?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And see the thing is, oh, Joe he plays
Speaker 1: just well enough at times and you're like, man.
Speaker 4: Yeah he has flashes flashes that that that okay, that's
Speaker 4: why we paid him.
Speaker 5: And then it goes back to no, something ain't right.
Speaker 1: We are we are what re repeatedly do. Therefore, it's
Speaker 1: not a singular act. It is a habit. What do
Speaker 1: you repeatedly do? If you look at Janiel Jones' body
Speaker 1: of work, what has he repeatedly done?
Speaker 2: Played bad?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: He has more instances in which he's played bad, inconsistent
Speaker 1: and effective than he has playing good.
Speaker 2: Being affected effected that you.
Speaker 5: Just say, you just said something really really, really profound.
Speaker 5: It's very simple. But we are what we repeatedly do. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yes, Therefore it is not a singular act. It is
Speaker 1: a habit.
Speaker 5: Boy, I'm finna you that one.
Speaker 1: Habits are what we repeatedly do, not singular acts.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: It was real simple and it almost got away from me,
Speaker 4: but they had to rewind it and bring it back
Speaker 4: in and replay it.
Speaker 2: It's a good one, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: After suffering the worst home loss of his time as
Speaker 1: owner general manager forty seven to nine to the Detroit Lions,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones backed head coach Mike McCarthy. When asked of
Speaker 1: a potential change, Jerry said, oh, I haven't even considered that.
Speaker 1: I'm not considering that. Just so you're clear, I'm not
Speaker 1: considering that. When reminded about his previous end season coaching changes,
Speaker 1: he made it twenty ten when he fired Way Phillips
Speaker 1: and named Jason Garrett interim head coach after one and
Speaker 1: seven start. Jerry became even more dexpensive that would be
Speaker 1: hypothetical in that manner. Do you think I'm an idiot, Jory, Jerry?
Speaker 1: Is that a rhetorical question or is that one that
Speaker 1: you want a yes or no answer to? Don't answer?
Speaker 1: Do you Okay? Well, I'm not going to do hypotheticals
Speaker 1: with you about what I would consider coaching change in
Speaker 1: light of timing we're sitting here with I'm not at all.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are three and three after the loss to
Speaker 1: the Lions. And that wasn't just the loss. No, that
Speaker 1: wasn't just a loss. All losses are created equal. Yes,
Speaker 1: they go into the lost column, but they're not created equal.
Speaker 1: There are just one game behind the Commanders in the
Speaker 1: NFC East, but have lost their first three games at
Speaker 1: home for the first time since twenty ten. They've been
Speaker 1: outscored by sixty six points. The Cowboys are zero and
Speaker 1: three in the red zone today, O Joe, is it
Speaker 1: time to take McCarthy out of his position?
Speaker 4: I have a question before we even get to Mike McCarthy, right, yes,
Speaker 4: before we even get to the players, before we get
Speaker 4: to the defense, before we get to the offense. The
Speaker 4: Cowboys lost today, right, Yes? Who was the first person
Speaker 4: we heard from.
Speaker 2: The first person we always hear from Jerry.
Speaker 4: That's problem number one. Yes, that's problem one. That's problem
Speaker 4: number one. It always has been. But you, like you said,
Speaker 4: and like you told me, he would never change because
Speaker 4: he feels he's the best person to be able to
Speaker 4: run that team. But the Cowboys did today. It was
Speaker 4: very bad. It was dreadful. It was awful. It was terrible.
Speaker 4: It was frightful. It was a trouph it was disgraceful,
Speaker 4: it was deplorable. I'm not sure if I have any
Speaker 4: of the words I can explain the Cowboys showing today
Speaker 4: offensively and defensively.
Speaker 5: It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 4: It was bad to the point where the fucking Detroit
Speaker 4: Lions were running stuff that I haven't seen in years
Speaker 4: that I ran when I was an optimist.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I was in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very different.
Speaker 5: Plays that I did when I was eight years old.
Speaker 5: This is the NFL. This is the best of the best.
Speaker 5: This is the NFL. It's the best of the best.
Speaker 5: How you throwing plays.
Speaker 1: At the tackle because I have such little respect. This
Speaker 1: is what you call being disrespectful. Because we're on national television.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run a lateral to a tackle. Oh Joe
Speaker 1: seen anything like that. This is not the last player
Speaker 1: of the game where we're gonna laderate black and forth.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call it and guess what. Before that, we're
Speaker 1: gonna call a play. We're gonna play fake it, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to throw a shoulder to the tackle.
Speaker 5: Hold on, not a tight end, not a tight end
Speaker 5: a tackle.
Speaker 4: They said, I don't, I don't. I don't know what's
Speaker 4: going on. I don't know what's going on in Jerry's world.
Speaker 4: They've had three games at home. They lost all three
Speaker 4: games at home. Tonight wasn't that wasn't a loss. I
Speaker 4: really can't even conjurect the words I tried to. I
Speaker 4: tried to give you a few synonyms on on on
Speaker 4: what tonight was.
Speaker 5: But I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know what. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it? Mike McCarthy did say with that, saying Mike
Speaker 5: McCarthy went twelve or five last year, But that's the
Speaker 5: with the Mike mccarthury before that. To see the previous
Speaker 5: to that, they went twelve to five as well, and
Speaker 5: they had a playoff birth even though they went home
Speaker 5: in the first round.
Speaker 4: But still this is not the same cowboy team that
Speaker 4: I mean. I mean, I'm used to used to seeing
Speaker 4: Specie in the regular season because in the regular season
Speaker 4: they do win, but they don't start off this guy
Speaker 4: damn bad.
Speaker 2: Their defense isn't very good. The defense is not built
Speaker 2: when no.
Speaker 1: But see, here's the thing is that what normally happens
Speaker 1: is that the offense can put press. See they're built
Speaker 1: to play with the lead. And what happens when you
Speaker 1: can't play with the lead and you can't pin your
Speaker 1: ears back because you got those guys that don't have
Speaker 1: anchors in their back pockets. You see how they was moving.
Speaker 1: You see how the one hundred and eighty four yards
Speaker 1: and look at it. They don't just get beat. They
Speaker 1: get blown out. Yeah, they get blown out. What did
Speaker 1: the Saints do to them? What did Green Bay do
Speaker 1: to him? In the playoffs? They put up forty eight,
Speaker 1: They got forty seven to day New Orleans put forty
Speaker 1: something on them. Yeah, the Ravens took their foot out
Speaker 1: the gas too soon. They should have put the body
Speaker 1: on them. And people keep saying, well, if the defense
Speaker 1: the defen dak got three field goals, if I know
Speaker 1: my defense isn't good.
Speaker 2: I can't settle for field goals.
Speaker 1: I've got to get touchdown because I've got a match,
Speaker 1: because if I don't, we're gonna get too far behind.
Speaker 1: The best thing to happen is dak through that interception
Speaker 1: that got Hi mind, because what was gonna happen is
Speaker 1: he was gonna get some empty calories and people gonna say,
Speaker 1: well that it didn't see the games they DAC played. Well,
Speaker 1: we've seen that far too many times. We saw it
Speaker 1: against the Saints, we saw it against the Ravens. We
Speaker 1: see it a lot. We saw it against Green Bay
Speaker 1: where he has these empty calories and you look at
Speaker 1: the stat and you're like, well, he didn't play bad.
Speaker 2: If the defense could have got some.
Speaker 1: Stops, no got three field goals, yeah three. If you
Speaker 1: really think about it, Ojo, yes, they should.
Speaker 2: They should have put sixty on them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it could have.
Speaker 4: Listen, it could have been a sixty ball easily because
Speaker 4: it could have been. But that that would have been
Speaker 4: very I don't changes. If they put up sixty points,
Speaker 4: heads were probably gonna roll and somebody would have had
Speaker 4: to lose their job.
Speaker 5: But who is it would have been too much pressure
Speaker 5: from the outside world.
Speaker 2: Who are you gonna put it?
Speaker 1: First of all, you can't put Mike Zimmer in that
Speaker 1: job because his defense is trash. So how you put
Speaker 1: him in that job as the head coach? I don't
Speaker 1: know who's the offensive coordinator?
Speaker 2: Who is higher Cowboys?
Speaker 1: I know Mike McCarthy calls the plays, but who has
Speaker 1: the job title as offensive corder? Brian Schottenheimer. Okay, you're
Speaker 1: not putting him there. So you're kind of stuck because
Speaker 1: guess what, that's Mike McCarthy's offense. That's not Brian Shottenheimer's offense.
Speaker 1: That's Mike McCarthy. Because remember they got rid of the
Speaker 1: other guy because they say they ran the ball too much.
Speaker 2: I mean they threw the ball too much.
Speaker 1: They throw the ball way more now than they did
Speaker 1: when they had Kellen Moore's offensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming because they throw the ball so much,
Speaker 4: they're still not happy with the running game. They're still
Speaker 4: not happy with those they have to run the ball.
Speaker 4: So what's the answer there?
Speaker 1: Is what happens, o't yo? When you fall behind by fourteen?
Speaker 1: You fall behind but the throw so you don't really know. Look,
Speaker 1: do I I think Dodd Ddell is okay.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's great.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going anywhere with him, right, But
Speaker 1: you basically take your running game out because what do
Speaker 1: they do every game? They fall behind, and when you
Speaker 1: fall behind, I ain't even work Okay running, I dare
Speaker 1: you too, because all you're gonna do is run time
Speaker 1: off the clock because they don't really have anybody that
Speaker 1: can hit their head on the gold post. No. So
Speaker 1: with that being said, appreciate it. With that being said, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is bad. I don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 1: it's almost like CD and Dak has never played together.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, you know he had fourteen targets today because
Speaker 1: him another They put him in motion. He runs up
Speaker 1: the sideline, Dak throws it back shoulder, He keeps going.
Speaker 1: He's looking for it over here. Dak throws it over there, right,
Speaker 1: Dak looking for him to be over there. He throws
Speaker 1: it over and so he's over here. They got to
Speaker 1: get on. They gotta get on the same page. Joe, man,
Speaker 1: the guys been together for five years old. Joe, what
Speaker 1: you mean get on the same page?
Speaker 4: I mean, listen you, I mean, hell, you didn't after
Speaker 4: five years, they're supposed to be in sink, especially in
Speaker 4: year five.
Speaker 5: You supposed to know what I'm thinking every time as
Speaker 5: a receiver.
Speaker 4: If you know a guy is off him coming to
Speaker 4: the motion, I'm running down the field and he's already
Speaker 4: off of me, it's okay.
Speaker 5: You throw that thing back shoulder. If you do.
Speaker 4: I have a guy pressed and he's upon me and
Speaker 4: I'm coming in the motion he's and he's locked up.
Speaker 4: You let that bitch go like the shit. The one
Speaker 4: the two people on offense, that's it be in unison.
Speaker 4: It's them two and them two out to sink. Then
Speaker 4: everything is falling the part and because in order in
Speaker 4: order for their office get a rhythm if they can't
Speaker 4: run the ball like they haven't been able to do
Speaker 4: and know not that for their offense to get a rhythm
Speaker 4: and everything.
Speaker 5: To get in sync. Goddamn, goddamn four damn what a
Speaker 5: number of cit weear?
Speaker 4: Oh oh, they got to be on the same page.
Speaker 4: You should with that that that can kick you, that
Speaker 4: can kickstart your offense right there, like you got damn lawnmore.
Speaker 4: You know what she ain't she ain't going right. McCarthy
Speaker 4: calls something from four to eighty eight. Let's get us,
Speaker 4: let's get us in rhythm every time.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: At some point in time, we got to come to
Speaker 1: the realization the Cowboys aren't good. You can say Ford
Speaker 1: to eighty eight. You can say four to one and
Speaker 1: forda this the Cowboys aren't good. Yeah, yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: okay to say that.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they're not good. I done said it. I
Speaker 5: just said it. But I think I think it's more.
Speaker 4: Than just that that's in the way of them actually
Speaker 4: being good. It's it's more than just that than them
Speaker 4: actually being good. Being good starts all the way from
Speaker 4: the motherfucker top. Because the Kansasity Chiefs are good. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it starts at the top. The Ravens are good.
Speaker 4: It's always started from the top. The Stiller is a
Speaker 4: good even if they're rebounding back to being good, but
Speaker 4: it starts to the top. Just think about think about
Speaker 4: all the teams that are consistently good year in the
Speaker 4: year out, not living on what.
Speaker 1: They do the coach, because the coach is the voice
Speaker 1: of the team and not the owner, and the owner
Speaker 1: is okay with not getting credit with not with itout.
Speaker 1: Oh let me tell you who's gonna play. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you who is it, Let me tell you who's injured,
Speaker 1: let me tell you who is it. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you what's going on, and let me tell you what's not.
Speaker 1: That's Jerry. Jerry ego won't let him be anything but this.
Speaker 1: All the teams that you mentioned, Steve Bushatti, he don't
Speaker 1: care about no credit. The Rooneyes, they don't care about
Speaker 1: no credit. The Hunts, they don't care about no credit.
Speaker 1: Only Jerry because his ego, his insatiable appetite to be
Speaker 1: like and to be known. That's why he won't hire
Speaker 1: a coach of substance, because anybody that comes in and
Speaker 1: they win, they're gonna get the credit. That's why he
Speaker 1: got Jimmy ass up out of there, because Jimmy got
Speaker 1: the credit. Wasn't nobody talking about Jerry Jones.
Speaker 2: I was in the.
Speaker 1: League when they were winning, and everybody talked about Jimmy.
Speaker 1: It was Jimmy and the Triplets. Jerry wasn't after thought.
Speaker 1: Jerry was disgusted by that. Because I purchased this team.
Speaker 1: I hired Jimmy Johnson, who was a college teammate of mind.
Speaker 2: Rubbed it.
Speaker 1: It rubbed him and that's why he wants to win
Speaker 1: so bad. He feels if he can just win one
Speaker 1: without Jimmy and not having Jimmy players, he'll be okay.
Speaker 1: But I don't see it happening because he can't get
Speaker 1: out of his own way and this team is not
Speaker 1: good enough. They're not good enough. Hey, treyvond Bro, that's
Speaker 1: a speed merchant up there. If you press him and
Speaker 1: you missed, that's what's gonna happen. He gonna run by you.
Speaker 1: He gonna run by you. Oh Joe, it's really yes.
Speaker 5: James Williams, Yeah, yes, you can go now.
Speaker 2: You can't miss him.
Speaker 1: You got to get all of it because you got
Speaker 1: a man with no help over the top, and he
Speaker 1: gonna run to that point and Jery Golf go throw
Speaker 1: it up and then it's gonna be a touchdown. Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they're in trouble, Ojo, they're in trouble. If you look
Speaker 1: at the teams, they're not better. Are they better than
Speaker 1: the Packers? No? Are they better than the Allions? No,
Speaker 1: obviously not. They're not better than Minnesota. They're not better
Speaker 1: than the Commanders. They're not better than the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: Oh your right, now, they're like the eighth or ninth best,
Speaker 1: maybe eight, maybe ten. Right, Hell, I'm not so sure
Speaker 1: they're better than Chicago.
Speaker 4: You think about and this is the funny thing I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, you think about all the teams that
Speaker 4: you just name, and you look at the quarterbacks of
Speaker 4: those teams. They're quarterbacks that play consistent weekend and week out. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with Dak because Dak,
Speaker 4: Dak does what he can do. I think he doesn't
Speaker 4: have enough what's the world I'm looking for enough enough firepower?
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 5: Where you going? What chat?
Speaker 4: Anyway? Like like I was saying, I don't think Dak.
Speaker 4: You look at you think about all the all the
Speaker 4: other teams that Uncus name, and look at the weaponry
Speaker 4: that they have at their disposal.
Speaker 5: I think the Countboys have some they have some good players.
Speaker 4: They don't have that umph you know you got you
Speaker 4: got CD and you need some nefts that that really
Speaker 4: that commands that kind of you know, that kind of
Speaker 4: attention that that that kind of alleviates the pressure off
Speaker 4: of Dak, alleviates some of the pressure off of off
Speaker 4: of CD. It's hard to explain, but most of the
Speaker 4: teams do have that uh ship I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to see it without being disrespectful to the
Speaker 4: players that are there. I mean, they're good, you know,
Speaker 4: it's okay. But there's there's levels, and there's different tiers
Speaker 4: to this ship. And I think that's what that's what
Speaker 4: the Cowboys might be missing a little bit, especially offensively,
Speaker 4: because if your defense is bad, your identity has to
Speaker 4: be somewhere.
Speaker 5: Your identity gotta be somewhere.
Speaker 4: Either your identity is on offense or your identity is
Speaker 4: on fucking defense.
Speaker 5: It can't be on both sides of the bass.
Speaker 4: If your defense is bad, that mean your offense has
Speaker 4: to be just that much better.
Speaker 5: And they just need need more. They just need more.
Speaker 5: That's it. And we need Jerry to sit down.
Speaker 4: And I'm talking about weed because I feel bad for
Speaker 4: the Cowboys fans. Hell, I feel bad for the Cowboys playoffs.
Speaker 4: You know, now, I understand what suld Knight was talking about.
Speaker 4: That same speech he gave at whatever the war showed
Speaker 4: that was. It's pertaining to to Jerry. Same thing, same thing.
Speaker 4: Let us play. Let the coaches coach a great team.
Speaker 4: Somebody said, oh, you're a great team needs both sides.
Speaker 4: Know what doesn't A great team doesn't need both sides.
Speaker 4: And you'll never get that. You'll never get that. A
Speaker 4: team is always lopsided, even the team that won super Bowls,
Speaker 4: it's always lopsided at some point somewhere. You can't have
Speaker 4: a great defense and a great offense. That's like impossible.
Speaker 4: You think about the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Defense let up, but they gave.
Speaker 5: Yeah the game.
Speaker 4: Hey, somebody, somebody just said, I mean you better you
Speaker 4: You're better at explaining it to me. But for them
Speaker 4: as opposed, someone said, you need a great team on
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball, no win.
Speaker 1: You need you need to play complimentary football bingo, because
Speaker 1: I think the mark up any good team ojo. If
Speaker 1: can you get done what you need to get done
Speaker 1: when you absolutely have to, you have to Yeah, go
Speaker 1: back and look at the Chiefs. Look how they play
Speaker 1: bad all last year, but in the playoffs when they
Speaker 1: needed to get a key third down, what do they do?
Speaker 1: They got it when they needed to get a stop.
Speaker 1: The defense was consistent all year, but when they needed
Speaker 1: to get off the field, they got off the field.
Speaker 1: When they needed to force a turnover when they flowers
Speaker 1: about to get the ball, what does need to punch
Speaker 1: it out?
Speaker 2: They get them.
Speaker 1: So you need to be able to play complimentary football.
Speaker 1: You need to be you need to be really good
Speaker 1: in two of the three phases. But at the other phase,
Speaker 1: can you compliment that? Can you get timely turnovers? Can
Speaker 1: you get a timely third down? Can you can you
Speaker 1: punt or pin him down? Canny your kicker make a
Speaker 1: big kick, right Dallas have a kicker that has a
Speaker 1: cannon for a leg. Yeah, yeah, I mean he's damn
Speaker 1: there automatic. But they're so bad on both sides, on
Speaker 1: the other sides offensively and defensively, they can't look at that.
Speaker 1: They couldn't protect him the best. I mean, Hutchison hopefully
Speaker 1: he come make a comeback next year because he had
Speaker 1: a compound. Yeah, and you see that. You see that
Speaker 1: injury a lot of times. O hoe in m m
Speaker 1: A when they kick and it got checks him.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: We saw Anderson Silver break his leg like that. I
Speaker 1: think we saw rock rock Well break his life. I
Speaker 1: think that's the break his leg like that.
Speaker 4: I think, uh McGregor, it might not have been the
Speaker 4: same thing, but it's his ankle snapped in half.
Speaker 5: He kicked remember he went back check step be half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've seen that. We see Anderson silver broke
Speaker 1: his leg. I think Anderson Silber did that. We've seen
Speaker 1: a loop with it. Rock hole Rock one of those
Speaker 1: another guy that who was it?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: And so we saw that, but they couldn't block him. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Wideman, Chris Wideman, that's what was Chris Wiseman kick
Speaker 1: got checked him, snaps in the half. He's making a play. Ohho,
Speaker 1: his leg whips around. We saw r G three his
Speaker 1: leg whipped like that. But he tore everything in his
Speaker 1: knee his later like a cop of the compound fracture.
Speaker 1: So hopefully he gets back next year because he was
Speaker 1: having an unbelievable season. They couldn't block him. They did
Speaker 1: a great job of stunning uh. And the offensive line
Speaker 1: on Shoe is not what he once was.
Speaker 2: They can't.
Speaker 1: They don't open holes like they once did. That's a
Speaker 1: lot of collisions, not a lot of those. Timing Smith
Speaker 1: is going on. The only guy that's been there from
Speaker 1: the start was Zach Martin. But he's not what he
Speaker 1: once was. He's slowing down considerably. Watch it. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not breaking news to you, Ojo. Just watch the tape,
Speaker 1: watch him play. He's not what he once was. He's
Speaker 1: still good, but he's not even close to what he
Speaker 1: once was. They're running games, they're running routot in games
Speaker 1: on him and getting home. Yeah, but the Cowboys got
Speaker 1: some serious, serious issues, Ojo.
Speaker 2: They got some serious, serious issues.
Speaker 4: You know, you don't think them having another viable target
Speaker 4: that takes some of the pressure off of goddamn CD
Speaker 4: and D. Yeah, I'm telling you about I'm about a
Speaker 4: viable target. I'm talking about one when you bring the
Speaker 4: god damn Huddle. Okay, you know what. We need to
Speaker 4: be alert, all right, we need to be alert for
Speaker 4: eighty eight. But hell, we got to watch this fool
Speaker 4: over here too because he can also beat us. So
Speaker 4: if we say we taking we're taking so and so
Speaker 4: out of the game, we know he has the possibility
Speaker 4: to also move the chains hell. The Bengals that got
Speaker 4: chased and they got god damn Higgins. The Eagles they
Speaker 4: got a J. Brown, they had Devonte Smith. Those are
Speaker 4: two people that you just have to worry about. That
Speaker 4: makes I think the office a little bit more more,
Speaker 4: not as explosive trying to think of the word, the word,
Speaker 4: the right word to use. You can do much more
Speaker 4: that makes them more diversified, because that's right. Yeah, when
Speaker 4: you oo, when you look at it, I like Tobert.
Speaker 4: I think he can be really good. He's gotten better.
Speaker 4: When you look at what he was last year. Oo ojo,
Speaker 4: there were some games he wasn't even dressing out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Brandon Cooks is supposed to be your number two,
Speaker 1: but he's hurt. It's hard in order to be a
Speaker 1: number two, ojo. And to be that, to be that small,
Speaker 1: you got to be special, right. See, Tyreek is that size,
Speaker 1: but Tyreek is special. Tyreek is a one. So to
Speaker 1: be that small and to be a number two, you've
Speaker 1: got to be really really special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Brandon Cooks is good. Cook you special, right.
Speaker 5: He don't know and no disrespect. He don't put no
Speaker 5: fear and nobody he ain't putting no fear in nobody
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: Lo, you'll let it run by it, yo, he'll run
Speaker 4: by you now, yeah, hit run by you. But he
Speaker 4: still don't put no fear. We ain't talk about no
Speaker 4: goddamn cheetah speed. We ain't talking about no xata worthy
Speaker 4: now you're.
Speaker 5: Fast, but who ain't fast? This the NFL? Now, everybody
Speaker 5: need they get uprunning full three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh, Like I said, the DB's, they're not special. I
Speaker 1: think Diggs is still trying to recover. He don't want
Speaker 1: to tackle. They keep trying to punch the ball out. Bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta put at some point time, you gotta put
Speaker 1: pads on people. You gotta put people. You gotta put
Speaker 1: people ass on the ground. Yeah, all that swipe it
Speaker 1: at the.
Speaker 5: Ball and road and do you think I think the NFL.
Speaker 4: The NFL has made it very, very difficult for DB's
Speaker 4: to make tackles, especially on sweeps and tosses where they're
Speaker 4: not they're not able to cause a pile by going
Speaker 4: low guards that there pulling.
Speaker 1: Go look at Jay rawm Jay ram will stick his
Speaker 1: nose up in there, Ramsey. Yes, oh yeah, he had
Speaker 1: tackling though. Yeah, he's he's a tackling dB.
Speaker 2: So it can be though.
Speaker 4: Yes, as a matter of fact, speaking of I'm glad,
Speaker 4: I'm glad since you said that, there's a play from
Speaker 4: Denzel Ward.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't remember what year it was.
Speaker 4: Down was coming and he slid under there and made
Speaker 4: that tackle and I still to this day that that
Speaker 4: play is still in my head because I've never seen
Speaker 4: nothing like that.
Speaker 5: That was that was live. But how many how many
Speaker 5: dbs can actually make a play like that.
Speaker 1: In order to make a play like that, you had
Speaker 1: to have thought about that play so many times before
Speaker 1: before play. That's not a play that at that spur
Speaker 1: of the moment you do that, you just think exactly,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly, And so I.
Speaker 4: Think defenders are at a disadvantage, especially with those big
Speaker 4: boys pulling, especially dbs.
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of unfair.
Speaker 2: But I mean, look at Marlon humph for a tackle.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, hum hump a big boy bry.
Speaker 1: Y, you know, and your your dv's gotta tackle because
Speaker 1: especially in the Cowboys, because guess what, your front seven
Speaker 1: lighting the bridges, so you're gonna be getting a lot
Speaker 1: of practice tackling.
Speaker 2: I'm just being honest, o, Joe. I mean, look at it.
Speaker 1: Who hadn't run for one hundred plus y'all hold on again,
Speaker 1: they got our rushed by one hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Fifty three?
Speaker 5: How many how many o the other Lions had.
Speaker 2: What edy four?
Speaker 5: Okay, cowboys had fifty three?
Speaker 2: You remember.
Speaker 1: The Ravens had two seventy plus, remember say two fifty plus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Camar was going crazy that night.
Speaker 1: Bro, you gotta look at some point in time, you
Speaker 1: just say, you know what the hell with this? It
Speaker 1: comes down to, oh your football. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day. You can come with a scheme all you
Speaker 1: want to mono.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man oh man, yeah yeah, But who can you
Speaker 5: count on? Who can you count on? Right now?
Speaker 4: Though, somebody gotta come to the party. Somebody got to
Speaker 4: pay this hab boy.
Speaker 1: They on a bye week. Do you know how long
Speaker 1: this ass cultn't gonna sit in? Go go stick with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Who they got coming out the battle? Oh, they can
Speaker 4: come out to buy and everything change. They can come
Speaker 4: out to buy and be a completely different team.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: They're not better than Town. I forgot about Tampa.
Speaker 4: They're not better than Tampa Tampa.
Speaker 2: Oo.
Speaker 1: Guess who they got coming out the bye Who the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Oh shit, they're not better than the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers either. I'll tell you what, I give
Speaker 1: you one better. They're not better than the Falcons.
Speaker 5: Kurb got the Boys playing good o Joe.
Speaker 1: They got the forty nine ers, the Falcons, the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and the Commanders. Yes, coming out to buy. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: their next five games.
Speaker 4: Boy man, listen again this bye. We could be good
Speaker 4: for them, or it could be hell. Only to thing
Speaker 4: could happen. Yeah, he gonna play. You're gonna fold either
Speaker 4: gonna play.
Speaker 5: You're gonna fold?
Speaker 1: What get? Let me ask your question, what have you
Speaker 1: seen that makes you think they're gonna play?
Speaker 4: I ain't seen nothing yet. Honestly, I ain't trying to
Speaker 4: be lud. I ain't trying to be rude, but you know,
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be optimistic. And I'm not even a
Speaker 4: Cowboy fan. I'm just trying to be optimistic just for
Speaker 4: those that are Cowboys fans that might be in the chat.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. You see what and that's what Jerry's done.
Speaker 4: He's played on the Cowboys fandom optimism. And that's why
Speaker 4: he's done you a disservice because you see, they just
Speaker 4: like y'all, just like you because every year, what do
Speaker 4: they say we'll get?
Speaker 2: Next year? We go in to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: They win one game, Remember they beat Cleveland over the day,
Speaker 1: were going to the super Bowl. I remember coming out
Speaker 1: here and tell you I said, oh, Joe, I would
Speaker 1: show like to see if Cleveland would have had their
Speaker 1: starting right tackles.
Speaker 2: He's playing two guys that's never started before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Cowboys got the lead, So what could
Speaker 1: you do rush the quarterback back? We're the last time
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have the lead. They can't pin their ears back.
Speaker 1: They lighten the brenches. I mean, look how the Lions
Speaker 1: would just move with Oh yo, I saw a couple
Speaker 1: of plays, man, I tweeted. I said, hell, I could
Speaker 1: get seven yards. Okay, I kid, I kid too. I
Speaker 1: could get to my old my old lass with with
Speaker 1: to replaced hips could get two yards in those holes
Speaker 1: that Montgomery and Gibbs was running through.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that that that Lion's old line is. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't call it underrated, because any any old rated.
Speaker 1: They Gotools, they got Xiler, they got Glass Glass.
Speaker 2: Now they got that hell rated.
Speaker 5: Oh hell no, he d But you know they don't
Speaker 5: talk about him enough. They don't talk about him enough
Speaker 5: for me.
Speaker 1: You know, they might have the best tackles in football
Speaker 1: when you look at their right tackle and their left tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a whole totality, Xiler is a damn good guard.
Speaker 1: Exiler was a Pro Bowl player. Glass now is a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 5: Yeah, fool is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they legit.
Speaker 4: Hold on, So you're throwing in the towel. You're throwing
Speaker 4: in the towel on the Cowboys already.
Speaker 1: Look, I didn't think the cow looked every year. Oh
Speaker 1: they got so much talent. No they don't. You're looking
Speaker 1: at names, name names. That's what I love so much
Speaker 1: about sports, So choe, because you got to prove it to.
Speaker 2: The next man the next week.
Speaker 5: Every year.
Speaker 1: I don't give a damn about your name. I don't
Speaker 1: give a damn about what you've done. You got to
Speaker 1: show me today that you are what everybody says you are, right,
Speaker 1: Because guess what, I look at myself at the same
Speaker 1: way them people ex explaining you.
Speaker 2: I see myself like that. Right.
Speaker 1: Only one of us can be that today, Only one
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 5: Oh man, that's bad, that's bad.
Speaker 2: That's bad.
Speaker 1: The Lions try to throw a ten path to Taylor Decker.
Speaker 1: They run a hook and left being let ot Dan Skipper.
Speaker 1: He ran a route. That man was out there, Juki
Speaker 1: on a fleet flicker of Sam Laporte. Different respect. Oh yo,
Speaker 1: they got tackles. We called him plays for tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they let the tackle run a route, And I ain't
Speaker 1: just talking about you know, no down flat.
Speaker 5: It was a real route. He ran a real route.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe Dan Campbell don't get along with Mike McCarthy to
Speaker 4: be called the type of plays.
Speaker 5: Maybe the hold on. Maybe Ben Johnson salutor Ben Johnson too.
Speaker 4: Maybe Ben Johnson don't get along with somebody over there
Speaker 4: on that Cowboys staff because some of the things you
Speaker 4: were calling is disrespectful.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, Dan, he was with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: three oh five. Dan was he was a player, oh.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, okay, okay, And he probably wanted he probably
Speaker 4: wanted to stick it to Jerry.
Speaker 1: Huh why not? Why not? I can't think of a
Speaker 1: better a person.
Speaker 5: Right, Oh yeah, I'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you what.
Speaker 1: Like you said, we're gonna find out a lot about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys over the next six weeks, Yes, sir, we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think, I think I'm hoping they are right.
Speaker 4: I think Bran Brandon Cooks. How long is he got
Speaker 4: he was on I R R so he'll be Oh,
Speaker 4: he'll be back after the by then.
Speaker 1: Now he got to miss one more week. This is
Speaker 1: the week third, the week is by But hold on,
Speaker 1: old Joe. Now, yeah, is he gonna be ready to
Speaker 1: come back?
Speaker 2: Yeah, surgery on that knee.
Speaker 5: Damn man, I'm sicking everybody getting hurt. Man, fuck this
Speaker 5: ship man.
Speaker 2: Damn.
Speaker 1: Braends up for eighteen hundreds who are undergone surgery. He's
Speaker 1: already undergone surgery. Oh Joe, he had surgery out of
Speaker 1: Dallas hospital. I don't know when he's gonna return back
Speaker 1: to I'm sure the line he was probably flew got
Speaker 1: a charter and flew his mom and dad out to
Speaker 1: be with him. I'm almost certain of that. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: saying that's probably what happened.
Speaker 2: But it was. He was playing unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's a very, very misletalented he has defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year written all over him at some point in
Speaker 1: time in his career. But he was off to an
Speaker 1: amazing start this year. I think he was leading the
Speaker 1: league in sacks. I know he had one today. He
Speaker 1: might have had yeah, he had one. He had another
Speaker 1: one called back. But he's He's a hard playing guy.
Speaker 1: Plays with great pass leverage, good good on the left
Speaker 1: side or the right side, has a plethora of moves.
Speaker 1: He can buil you, he can hunt you, he could
Speaker 1: rip you. He doesn't all his his his his playbook
Speaker 1: is is limitless. Uh and unfortunately he suffered a very
Speaker 1: gruesome injury before Sunday.
Speaker 2: Oho.
Speaker 1: The largest home defeat is Jerry Era came in two
Speaker 1: thousand and one, thirty six to three. There have been
Speaker 1: on three other home losses that have been larger margins
Speaker 1: of defeats in team history. For the third straight game,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys faced big halftime deficits. Remember twenty seven six
Speaker 1: against the Lions. They were down twenty one six against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. They were down thirty five sixteen against the Saints,
Speaker 1: and at the wild card game they were down twenty
Speaker 1: seven twenty seven twenty no twenty seven seven at halftime. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, happy birthday, Jerry.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this, but ain't nothing
Speaker 1: worse than getting ass whopped on your birthday?
Speaker 5: Oh Jerry return eighty four? Okay, my bad?
Speaker 1: Eighty two? Yeah, because you're older than my mom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my mom turned eighty one in January. Oh Joe, you
Speaker 1: know how you get your birthday and you figure you
Speaker 1: could say and do whatever you want to and get
Speaker 1: your ass till on your birthday by your grandma.
Speaker 2: Oh your mom, Grandma.
Speaker 5: I ain't play that bright. I mean that feel Jerry
Speaker 5: taking no chances back then, I.
Speaker 1: Mean to get your ass tore up on your birth
Speaker 1: that's the worst time. And then because you know you
Speaker 1: normally gonna have your cousins over something like that and
Speaker 1: you show it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, boy, you're being managed.
Speaker 1: Hunh Yeah. There ain't nobody trying to be maned. You
Speaker 1: just want to beat me in front of my cousin,
Speaker 1: that's it. But that a they put that thing on them.
Speaker 2: That was bad.
Speaker 1: The Ravens beat the Commander's thirty twenty three for their
Speaker 1: fourth straight wins. They fly was nine catches, a buck
Speaker 1: thirty two at the half, the most yards and a
Speaker 1: half and Ravens history.
Speaker 2: He didn't see a target the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: In the Ravens steel role, Lamarn Company gobbled up four
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four yards twenty eight first down. The
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Ravens are the first team since John
Speaker 1: Mann nineteen seventy one Raiders with one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: plus rushing yards and at least one touchdown in each
Speaker 1: of the first six games of the season.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 1: They racked up one hundred and seventy six rushing yards
Speaker 1: on the day with the raining MVP throwing for three
Speaker 1: hundred than twenty three yards. Oh Joe, are we looking
Speaker 1: at another MVPC either for Al jack.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, shit, the way he got damn playing even
Speaker 4: with the slow start, even with the slow start, in
Speaker 4: order to dig yourself up out that hole, you got
Speaker 4: to have the right person with that goddamn shovel you
Speaker 4: hit me, And the person that got that shovel is Lamar.
Speaker 5: Jackson, and he playing hell of a ball. Hell of
Speaker 5: a ball. Listen, he is a good thrower of the
Speaker 5: goddamn fucking football.
Speaker 4: Yes, I heard Ryan Clark say something where he said
Speaker 4: at this point and it's in just five games that
Speaker 4: Jaydon Daniels is a better passer of the ball than
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson has showed, even though he was
Speaker 4: considered a running back coming out in the draft or
Speaker 4: saying he should have been playing maybe wide receiver, he
Speaker 4: has honed the skill of being a good.
Speaker 5: Thrower of the ball.
Speaker 4: Yes, whether there's act, he's accurate, he got touched, he
Speaker 4: got precision. I mean, what else can you ask for?
Speaker 4: He can throw, You can throw your goddamn bullet, or
Speaker 4: he canna touch that thing in there like a goddamn fairy.
Speaker 5: He's good at what he does.
Speaker 4: If you watch the game today, I'm going to hike
Speaker 4: the ball. I'm gonna get the ball in. My first
Speaker 4: mindset is to throw the ball first, to go through
Speaker 4: my reads. I'm gonna read my progression. Hell, if I
Speaker 4: got enough time, I'm gonna go back to the progression again.
Speaker 5: And if I got to run it, I'm gonna run it.
Speaker 5: That's dangerous.
Speaker 1: I think the most impressive thing about lamar Ocho is
Speaker 1: that he's gotten better than throwing the football every single
Speaker 1: year and all we said we don't need. First of all,
Speaker 1: it would be unfair, grossly unfair. If it's passing ability
Speaker 1: ever surpassed in his running ability, that wouldn't even be fair.
Speaker 2: You'd have to outlaw it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not fair.
Speaker 1: The guy was twenty twenty six, three, twenty three, a touchdown,
Speaker 1: an interception, He got sacked twice.
Speaker 2: I can live with that.
Speaker 1: But Ocho, I remember, after the first game, what did
Speaker 1: I tell the Rabis they should do with Derrick Henry.
Speaker 4: Put him in the goddamn I That's when he's most
Speaker 4: efficient tosses and straight down motherfucking here with the full back.
Speaker 5: Goddamn it, they put his ass to die.
Speaker 2: That made HS run wild. Yeah, he's on pace.
Speaker 1: He's on pace for another two thousand yard season, which
Speaker 1: what if he got two thousand yards then another season,
Speaker 1: because no back has ever done two thousand more than what?
Speaker 2: Just go ahead put him in the hall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, they run it. They run it.
Speaker 4: You know how difficult they're going to be to be
Speaker 4: yes with the way they're playing right now, I'm not
Speaker 4: sure at some point, you know, you know, you always
Speaker 4: have a game.
Speaker 5: I call it a trap game. You always have trap game.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure when that track game is gonna come
Speaker 4: where it just seems nothing goes right and nothing actually works.
Speaker 4: But with the way they're going right now, you can't
Speaker 4: stop you can't stop him now. Not only can you
Speaker 4: not stop the running game. If you can't stop the
Speaker 4: runner game, it makes the passing game that much easier.
Speaker 1: That's what Because think about it, when Lamar's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball to the tight end Mark Andrews, He's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball likely like they's so far open, because I gotta
Speaker 1: get that safety down, because you can't come up with
Speaker 1: the light box, and Lamar is dealing.
Speaker 2: I mean he is dealing. I mean he's hitting. Likely.
Speaker 1: He loves throwing to his tight end. Mark Andrews was
Speaker 1: always his favorite, but now he has a guy in
Speaker 1: say Flowers. He's not that big, O Joe. Oh, he
Speaker 1: can get open that. He can go.
Speaker 5: Now, Hey he can go.
Speaker 2: Hey, they can't touch him in the phone booth.
Speaker 5: He could go.
Speaker 1: He's unbelievable like that. He's he's unbelievable. He's playing. But
Speaker 1: the Ravens they're playing unbelievable. They're playing unbelievable football because
Speaker 1: they are so balanced. Guess what, O Joe. Twenty six
Speaker 1: they had twenty six past attempts, thirty seven rush attempts,
Speaker 1: and they go the clock up. Because when you run
Speaker 1: the ball like they can run on it, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough for you to stop him. It's tough. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for you to stop him. It's really
Speaker 1: that simple. And uh, the Ray look the commanders will good.
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. Jaydon Daniels, he was twenty four
Speaker 1: thirty five two sixty nine, two touchdowns. They didn't run
Speaker 1: the ball nearly well enough. Uh, and So the Ravens
Speaker 1: were did a great job. They read the ball eighteen
Speaker 1: times for fifty two yards. That's not good enough. That's
Speaker 1: less than three that's less than three yards of carry out. Yoe,
Speaker 1: you ain't, you ain't, you ain't putting no fear nobody
Speaker 1: hard running the ball less than three yards of carry.
Speaker 1: But the Ravens defensively, they got after it. They only
Speaker 1: they were sacked him three times. But that offense, when
Speaker 1: they hunted like that, they're gonna be hard to beat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it'll be hard to beat.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: The funny thing is even in the loss, even in
Speaker 4: the loss of Day Jane Day is still a good yet.
Speaker 4: But but the thing you have to you have to understand,
Speaker 4: you to understand who they plan. They ain't planning the
Speaker 4: god damn raven defense every goddamn week. Then you're not
Speaker 4: playing and juggering out and juggering out of our offense
Speaker 4: like that every week. So I can see them beating
Speaker 4: everyone else in the NFL if so happened. They have
Speaker 4: to play them until you get to like, until you
Speaker 4: get the let's let's say the playoffs, where the teams
Speaker 4: are obviously going to be that much better since they
Speaker 4: were able to make it. But I mean, listen, the
Speaker 4: Commanders have no reason to hang their head. Obviously, you
Speaker 4: lost to a very very good team today. But when
Speaker 4: you think about it, you run down if you look
Speaker 4: at the rest of the NFL, how many teams you
Speaker 4: think it really goes can really beat and play with
Speaker 4: the Commanders right now with the kind of quarterback player
Speaker 4: that they're getting from Jayden and Daniels.
Speaker 5: Ain't too many got there many.
Speaker 2: Ain't too many for sure for sure, but I mean
Speaker 2: you had.
Speaker 1: Look, you have to be impressed with Jayde Daniels and
Speaker 1: with head to head, he went head to head with
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick Joe Burrow, he beat him.
Speaker 1: He went head to head with number overall draft pick
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray him. He lost to Lamar. But look, he
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to hold his head down because he
Speaker 1: played well. Yeah, he played, he played well. Lamar is
Speaker 1: just Lamar. He's just Lamar. Yeah, and so like, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe next time. But the Ravens without our offense, when
Speaker 1: they can run the football like they can run it
Speaker 1: and they can throw it, Lamar is dealing like he's dealing.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be allf with difficult to beat, Ojo. The
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers go to go ahead where you were.
Speaker 4: Saying, no, I'm just gonna say the Commanders didn't have
Speaker 4: Brian Robinson also today would have made a difference in
Speaker 4: the running game as well.
Speaker 1: So the Bucks go to New Orleans drop fifty one
Speaker 1: on them. Tample finished with five hundred and ninety four
Speaker 1: toty yards, converted six of ten first downs with third
Speaker 1: downs you mean from thirty six or ten third downs,
Speaker 1: averaged eight point three yards, and played one time of
Speaker 1: Posesson about with an eight minutes Ojo, just think about this.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield through four touchdown but he also had three interceptions.
Speaker 1: They scored fifty one points and turned the ball over
Speaker 1: three times.
Speaker 5: That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Chris God wouldn't had eleven catches for one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 5: Saints, Hey, latim more, Mike Evans, go at it.
Speaker 2: This is the one game.
Speaker 4: This is the one game, the one game I couldn't see.
Speaker 4: This is the one game I had every every game
Speaker 4: on on the TV set up between peaks, and the
Speaker 4: one game I couldn't get.
Speaker 2: Was this one.
Speaker 1: No, Mike Evans was quiet. He had two catches for
Speaker 1: thirty four yards. Dang they ran the ball. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball for two seventy seven thirty five rushes to
Speaker 1: seventy seven. Baker had twenty four completions for three twenty
Speaker 1: five and four touchdowns. But just let that think it,
Speaker 1: O joe, you turned the ball over three times and
Speaker 1: you dropped fifty one points.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, how many? How many of those points were defense?
Speaker 4: The defense scored defensive score, that's all offense.
Speaker 5: Fifty fifty ball.
Speaker 2: Yep, they might. They must have been playing in Tampa.
Speaker 2: Then they played in New Orleans.
Speaker 5: They put up a fifty ball in the in the super.
Speaker 2: Dome merceades Ben don yep, dang.
Speaker 4: Hey Baker, Baker Mayfield man. I listen when they do
Speaker 4: a story, when they or they do well, you talk
Speaker 4: about adversity and overcoming unfortunate circumstance after after having higher expectations,
Speaker 4: after coming out and get drafted number one, and you know,
Speaker 4: things don't work out when you get drafted to in Cleveland,
Speaker 4: and you know you have a stinting in la you
Speaker 4: have a stint in Carolina, and all of a sudden, you.
Speaker 5: Just you find the right, the right, the right situation
Speaker 5: in Tampa and and Ship just just fucking going. Good
Speaker 5: for Buddy Man.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 5: I like that for Baker.
Speaker 1: Did Temple had did Temple return of FuMB before touchdown?
Speaker 1: Who formed the ball? New Orleans and NS had three interceptions,
Speaker 1: fumble Crystal Lobby lost the fumble and they rent turning
Speaker 1: four touchdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey a Spencer Ratler had to start, did they
Speaker 5: Spencer rack look good today?
Speaker 1: Twenty two forty two forty three, one touchdowns, two interceptions.
Speaker 5: Okay, well, you know, Lood debut, Lood debut, you're gonna
Speaker 5: have played.
Speaker 1: He played well the first half and then him being
Speaker 1: a rookie, they kind of got exotic. They kind of
Speaker 1: got after him a little bit on yo. They headed
Speaker 1: him up and you know, uh, Todd Bowles, he likes
Speaker 1: the pressure. Oh yeah, oh he love he loves to
Speaker 1: bring pressure, and uh yeah, got kind of got him
Speaker 1: off his kilter, got him off, got him off kilter
Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh they ran away with it.
Speaker 2: I just couldn't. I just couldn't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I've seen a game
Speaker 1: like this, yeah where Baker where a quarterback turns the
Speaker 1: ball over like he did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they put up fifty one.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, when you think about it, I mean,
Speaker 5: the Saints weren't able to do anything with those turnovers.
Speaker 5: I'm assuming they.
Speaker 2: Scored a couple.
Speaker 1: But once they got once they got going in the
Speaker 1: second half, it was that book like an avalant boom
Speaker 1: boom boom boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. But Baker, man, you got to give him
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. They ran him out of Cleveland.
Speaker 1: He couldn't find I don't even I don't even hold
Speaker 1: Carolina against it.
Speaker 2: That was that was.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know he wanted to get out of
Speaker 1: Cleveland after they signed to Sean and and and and
Speaker 1: you know, he gave up some money to leave.
Speaker 2: But I can't I ain't hold it.
Speaker 1: I ain't holding Carolina gains because everybody looked like trash
Speaker 1: in Carolina.
Speaker 2: And then so I wonder what they saying.
Speaker 1: I wonder what Canellis is saying now because they got
Speaker 1: the break beat up from again by the Falcons.
Speaker 2: So whose fault is that? Okay?
Speaker 1: But uh, but for Baker to do what he's been
Speaker 1: able to do to turn it around. He has weapons
Speaker 1: and man, this look urban and Tucker running backs they
Speaker 1: got Yeah, boyd nice fourteen for one, thirty six, fourteen
Speaker 1: for eighty one, and the enlightening they were cooking. They
Speaker 1: were cooking today. So the Tampa Bay Buccaneers a four
Speaker 1: and two New Orleans Saints after that two and oh start,
Speaker 1: lost fourth straight mm fall to two and four, and.
Speaker 4: Them boys good too. Buy Hey, this Saint got the
Speaker 4: Saint got a nice little offense.
Speaker 2: Brock I could deal.
Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm