1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Come that for me. I'm 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: for Dake Edo State. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 2: Is that woo whoom? 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: And Dan and Tye. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My name, 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: as always is ty Hildebrand. Joining me over there on 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: the eastern shores of the solid verbal. It's frigid, it's blustery. 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: It's New York City, and that can only mean that 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: it is Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? 12 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm good, Ty, I mean, I'm all right. But the 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: mere fact that we're getting into our two hour Mega 14 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: quick Lane Bowl Special, Yeah, how about it. I'm feeling juice, 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Duke and I you. I believe the fine city of Detroit. 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: It's all happening. So I'm ready to go. 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: It's all happening. Indeed, thank you to everyone out there 18 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: for tuning back in. We are now squarely in the 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: Bowl pre viewing segment of our solid verbal season. We 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 3: don't have games to discuss, at least not this coming Saturday, 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: but we do have ones that are on the horizon. 22 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, get in on the bullpool. 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: We've got links posted out on the Facebook page, We'll 24 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: post it on Twitter. We'll continue posting it on our 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: web page as well. Forty one games for you to pick. 26 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: We're going to do our best here to try and 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: talk you through them and at least give you some 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: sense of who Dan and I are going to pick. 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: On tonight's show. 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: We've got some news to discuss that we didn't discuss previously. 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 3: We've got a whole slew of games to discuss here, Dan, 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: do we count these up? 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: Do you know how many we've got tonight? We have? 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: I think we're into double digits, ten twelve games. We 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: got a bunch a heavy lift tonight in terms of 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Bowl games. Dan, eight, nine, ten, I'm eleven twelve. I'm 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: seeing twelve games. Tie, geez yeah, Ken ready, I have nuggets, Tie, 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: I have so many nuggets about these. I'm gonna need 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: some sauce, Tig. I'm gonna have some spicy sauce from you. 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 3: A little Chick fil a sauce with those nuggets sounds 41 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: good to me. Do you know what chick fil a 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: sauce is? Is that a rhetorical question? 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: You know? I don't know, But do you know what 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: comprises Chick fil a sauce. I have absolutely no idea. 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: Do you like Chick fil ace? I love it. It's great. 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I want to say it's a like a barbecue honey 47 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: mustard hybrid. Okay, I believe that is the case. It 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: looks like Okay, officially, the copycat recipe says, whisk together 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of mayonnaise, honey mustard, lemon juice and 50 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: barbecue sauce. That's not too too bad. I could probably 51 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: make that on my own. I mean, you're making your 52 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: own Franklin barbecue sauce. I am. What can't you do? 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: Well? 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: We got a lot of nuggets here to talk about 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: in Bowl country, and we'll get to those. I promise. 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: We'll get to the news, I promise. But the only 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: bit of housekeeping news that we must discuss first is 58 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 3: that the live show is currently sold out. If you 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: go on out to the Facebook event, if you go 60 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: to our Facebook page, if you go to our web 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: page or Twitter account, Instagram, all of those spots have 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 3: links back to our ticketing site. Right now, they're sold out. 63 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: We're trying to hold some back for people who might 64 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: be coming to Atlanta for the game and for just 65 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: other folks in Atlanta who might decide at the last 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 3: minute that they want to come that a lot will 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: go back on sale after we know who's playing in 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: the National Championship game. But as we've said time and 69 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: time again, now, if you are going to be in Atlanta, 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: if you're thinking about coming to Atlanta, you're not sure 71 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: about the show, but you're interested, please do send us 72 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: an email at soliverble at gmail dot com. It helps 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: Dan and I out just to figure out what kind 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: of crowd are we looking at here that we haven't 75 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: already accounted for. So soliverb at gmail dot com. It's 76 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: going to be smashing, good fun. If you might be interested, 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 3: give us a holler. 78 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: Let us know. Yeah, Atlanta, friends of ours I mean 79 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: when I say friends of ours, I mean for ballers. 80 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: You guys, grab these tickets quickly. Oh, they're going like hotcakes. Dan, 81 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I figured we'd given enough people lead time to be like, 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: all right, we've got a few weeks till that. Like, No, 83 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: it was like two days they were all gone. So 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I was impressed. I was as well, I'm very excited 85 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: about that show. Yes, it's gonna be a we have 86 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: I want to say, mixed media plans. Yes, were we know, 87 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: like charging money is a thing that we were very 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: thankful that we're able to do that and people are 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: able to support the show. So we are trying our 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: best to give you not just us sitting there and 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: giving you a Q and A, but an actual capital 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: S show with Capital F friends and media pals and 93 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of things like that. So we're very grateful 94 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: we have this opportunity. So we cannot wait to hang. 95 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 3: I'm thinking space opera like in Star Wars episode three. Mmm, 96 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 3: fully nude, very thematic this week by the way, Yes, 97 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's true. 98 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: The Star Wars the news, not the nude. Correct. All right, 99 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: well on that now, Oh we have older but still 100 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: breaking news. 101 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 3: We talked a lot about the debacle, the raging tire fire, 102 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: the dumpster fire, whatever superlative you'd like to use. At 103 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 3: Tennessee regarding their coaching search, we talked about all the jokes. 104 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: We didn't talk about the actual coach. The actual coach 105 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: is Jeremy Prewett. They hired him away from Alabama. I 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: believe Prewitt will still be coaching in the playoff, Is 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 3: that correct? 108 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: That is the early word, though subject to change as 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: we know what happens with the Alabama coordinator right subject 110 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: to change. 111 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: But Jeremy Prewitt has had a pretty successful run at 112 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: at Georgia, at Florida State, most recently at Alabama. He's 113 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: coached at a very high level. He's been a defensive coordinator. 114 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: The early read on him is that he's going to 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: bring I'm laughing as I say this, but a more 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: aggressive hacking mentality. Hell yeah, with him from Tuscaloosa up 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: there to Knoxville after spending however many years now under 118 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: Butch Jones, that is something that I think. 119 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee fans could get pretty excited about. 120 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: So Jeremy Prewitt at long last tabbed as the new 121 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 3: head man. 122 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the ceiling is pretty high. Tennessee has phenomenal facilities. 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: They can attract a lot of talent. The big thing 124 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: to me is, and this has been impressive early with 125 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: what can Jeremy Prewitt attract in the way of assistant 126 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: coaches and support staff, strength and conditioning. He just hired away. 127 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: I don't have his name in front of me, but 128 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the sort of de facto GM of LSU football, who 129 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I think is a Tennessee native who helps out with 130 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: operations and recruiting, and so you have to assume or 131 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: not assume. But I would say that the optimist looks 132 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: at Jeremy Prewitt and says he's worked with three top 133 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: level coaches and Mark Rick, jimbo Fisher and obviously Nick Saban. 134 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: What has he taken from them organizationally? How will he 135 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: deal with people? Is he perhaps more mature than he 136 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: has put out there in the years past. So I 137 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: think ceiling wise, it is exceptionally high with how he's 138 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: been able to hire early on, and I am exceedingly 139 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: curious at this point without a full staff, how he 140 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: rounds out the recruiting class, which I know we're going 141 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: to talk about momentarily just reporting in general, both with 142 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: this early signing period that begins next week. I think 143 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: it's the twentieth to the twenty second, and then the 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: more standard signing day in early February. So there's a 145 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: lot to be optimistic about, I guess cautiously optimistic about 146 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: with hiring somebody without head coaching experience, but a ton 147 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: of high level experience in that region. 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned recruiting. This seems like a natural 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: segue to talk about what's going on in the recruiting world. 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: They're basically reformatting signing day as we know at the 151 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: signing period as we know it. And we did have 152 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: a question come through, is this something that we're going 153 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: to talk about? Well, yeah, it's college football. We will 154 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: be talking about it next Wednesday, as that's kind of 155 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: the the new signing day. Is that how they're trying 156 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: to brand this thing now? 157 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a they trying anything, but 158 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: I think schools in general are treating this like it 159 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: is the traditional signing day. You have the three days, 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: which gives you know, recruits and coaches whatever flexibility early 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: on just to make sure everything is in order by 162 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: the twentieth, twenty first, or twenty second. It hurts I 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: think prospective kids who would have more time to take 164 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: visits and see how things shake out after high school 165 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: football season's end and bowl season ends, so there's a 166 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: little bit of flexibility gone. I think in general, the 167 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: bigger programs, Power five type programs will have rounded out 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,839 Speaker 1: their class maybe like sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen kids out 169 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: of an average of about twenty five. So yes, it 170 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: is the de facto signing day. This is what we 171 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: will be paying attention to, I think more, but certainly 172 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: more to come. It hurts schools like Stanford Notre Dame 173 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: with more rigorous academic requirements because a lot of the 174 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: times kids are waiting to find out and get their grades, 175 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: waiting on a school and so schools like that, And 176 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: I know David Shaw has spoken out against this that 177 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: it really does hurt them. So we'll be curious to 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: see how many kids don't sign early in hopes that 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: if they want it to go to a place like 180 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Stanford or Notre Dame. Those are the two biggest I 181 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: think academically right now, you know how that affects their 182 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: their own timing. So it should be interesting to see. 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: And do you have you been paying attention at all 184 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: to this? 185 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: No? 186 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Minimal? Okay, real quick, ty, this is and I think 187 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot of commitments will be happening. Will obviously be 188 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: reviewing it after the fact. Here's your top twelve team 189 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: rankings and this one subject. This is an. 190 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 3: Important primer because you know my stance on recruits generally, 191 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: It's not that I'm not into it. Wait and see, Yeah, 192 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm just not into it until I absolutely have to 193 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: be into it. Recruiting being the lifeblood of college football, 194 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 3: you can't avoid it. It's important. I just haven't looked 195 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 3: into it. It's it's kind of coming early this year 196 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: because this new format. 197 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: Yes, so you're absolutely right. Here is the twenty four 198 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: to seven composite rankings right now, Ohio State, Texas, Hey, Texas, nice, 199 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: Miami makes sense. Georgia, Penn State and Notre Dame at 200 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: five and six, Oklahoma seven, Auburn, Alabama. Oregon's at ten. 201 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: They were a little bit higher, but have had some 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: decommitments after Willie Taggart left. Washington right there at eleven 203 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: and Jim Harbaugh and Michigan at twelve. So I think 204 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: a pretty familiar group. But Texas at number two, certainly 205 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: they have the regional talent to justify. So yeah, that 206 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: all feels about right. And quarterback wise, it looks like 207 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the a lot of the guys that 208 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: you would recognize team wise. I mean, Clemson has the 209 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: top quarterback in the class, Georgia has number two, Washington 210 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: has two top like fourteen quarterbacks, Oregon got their guy, 211 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: Notre Dame has Phil Jerkovic. Yeah, right, is that his 212 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: name yep. Interestingly enough, Utah has a top ten quarterback 213 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: in the country. Saw that quarterback? Yeah? So yeah, Michigan 214 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: State with the number fifteen overall quarterback. So that's cool 215 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: to see if they can sort of keep that quarterback 216 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: play at a high level. And Justin Rodgers appears to 217 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: be a top five guy for TCU. So looks like 218 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good class of guys going all over the 219 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: country to powers. 220 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're going to talk about this in 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: much much more detail on the show we do next week. 222 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: I guess that'd be December twentieth. We'll also preview Bowls 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: on that show, which means it's going to be a 224 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 3: longer podcast than you and I would typically do, but 225 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: we want to make sure we cover all the relevant 226 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: information recruiting and bowl season. We got a bunch of 227 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 3: previews that we've started to look at for next Wednesday, 228 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: so stay tuned for that. 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question real quick before we 230 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: move on? Sure, what do you think of the Jeremy 231 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: prout Hire for Tennessee? I like it. 232 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 3: I think that bringing some sort of toughness with him 233 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: from his last role is something that Tennessee fans should 234 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: should be excited about. To your point, he has coached 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: at a very high level. But the question always remains 236 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 3: he hasn't been a head coach previously. Sure, so not 237 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: everyone ends up being Kirby smart. Will there be an 238 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 3: adjustment period? How will he deal with being in the 239 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 3: fish bowl that is Tennessee. It's not an easy job. 240 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: So I will wait and see on that front, how 241 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: he handles not only that increase in responsibility but also 242 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 3: just that spotlight that he's going to be under. 243 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: We don't know. That part remains to be seen true, 244 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: all right, fair enough? I mean that they were down 245 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: to and I say that in a weird, facetious way, 246 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: but they had taken to interviewing SEC defensive coordinators. Another 247 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: one of the big names was I think Kevin Steel 248 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: from Auburn. So certainly they had finished setting their sites 249 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: at high ish and weird choices at head coach with 250 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: guys with head coaching experience, perhaps at Rutgers, and then 251 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: Dave Dorn and David Cutcliffe and Mike Gundhy, and then 252 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: they were sort of zeroing in on perhaps more realistic 253 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: in the way of coordinators that, to their credit, won't 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: cost as much more money for assistance, you know, more 255 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: runway to prove themselves early on as a head coach 256 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: instead of needing immediate results. So I don't think it's 257 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: the worst thing in the world. I am. I'm curious, 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I like it. I am reserved about loving it same 259 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: all right. 260 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 3: The only other bit of coaching news that I wanted 261 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: to discuss, Sunny Dikes is going to be taking over 262 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 3: at SMU Chad Morris left for Arkansas. Yep, Sunny Dikes 263 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: is going to be coaching the Bowl game for SMU. 264 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: This is It's a rare move. 265 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 3: It's not entirely unprecedented, but certainly not the kind of 266 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: thing that I can ever remember discussing in the ten 267 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 3: years of us doing this podcast. A new coach coming 268 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: in nothing to do with the program previously, will now 269 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: be coaching the Bowl game for SMU against Louisian Tech. 270 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the option to change your pick 271 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: from SMU to Louisiana Tech because I had LA Tech 272 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 3: to begin with. I'm on this thing now where I'm 273 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: not going to go too heavy on teams that lost 274 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 3: to coach, and in the case this game, even though 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: SMU was favored, I was gonna go law Tech. But 276 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: this to me seems like a historically terrible decision, despite 277 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 3: the fact that nothing's really riding on this game. I 278 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: just don't see how a team can come in and 279 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: feel good about its chances with a brand new coach 280 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: for one game. 281 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick. Well, No, I'm gonna say law Tech. 282 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: I think this has the makings for a just a mess. 283 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, Ty, I am a little bit 284 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: disappointed in you for not knowing your You're Brian Kelly history. 285 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: But he coached Cincinnati like two weeks after being named 286 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the head coach there. He arrived there from Central Michigan. 287 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, that's right, and he did coach Cincinnati, 288 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: and I forget which ball, let's assume it's like the 289 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Motor City bawl. I think that's a fair guess, but 290 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: that I did not come up with that myself. I 291 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: saw somebody else sweet that out and just looked it 292 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: up myself. But yeah, Brian Kelly did it at Cincinnati, 293 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: so there is recent precedent, and I guess he followed 294 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: up that real quick coaching job with a real quick 295 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: exit when Cincinnati went undefeated and went on his way 296 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: to South Bend. This is true. He was there for 297 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: four seasons. That is true. He was there longer than 298 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: your boy Willie Taggert. He was. That is factory tie 299 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: facts only. 300 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: All right, Well, if any other news breaks, we will 301 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: be sure to bring it to you. I would advise 302 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: changing your pickaway from SMU. I think that's gonna be 303 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: potentially a mess, but we shall wait and see. Before 304 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 3: we get to bulls, though, Dan, we do need to 305 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: talk about your shirt. 306 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I am. You've got a wedding this weekend. 307 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh that one. 308 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: Yes, you've got a wedding this weekend. 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You'll save 345 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: twenty bucks in your first shirt. 346 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: You know what they say, Ty. If it doesn't fit, 347 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: you must go to a very easy website and adjust 348 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: your sizing so you get a better fit. 349 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: Propercloth dot Com slash Solid use the gift code solid Dan. 350 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: Done. There you have it. We have picks to make. 351 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: Time. 352 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: I am excited for these games. Yeah, yeah, why not? 353 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: What's getting you juiced? I'm getting juiced. 354 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: About the Bad Boys Mower Gasparillo Bowl still Gasparilla. 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: I love the double L. I'm going to be Spanish 356 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: with that double L. Dans. Yeah, are you excited? This 357 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 1: used to be? Yeah? Sure? 358 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: This used to be the Saint Petersburg Bowl. For a 359 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: hot minute, you and I exchanged a few messages on 360 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: the old g chat machine about how much it might 361 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 3: cost to sponsor this bowl, because you'll remember they didn't 362 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: have a sponsor. They were openly courting new sponsors for 363 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: this bowl game. 364 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: I want to say, was it two years ago? It 365 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: was the Bitcoin Bowl, Yeah, I believe. And then Bitcoin 366 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we just we're gonna We're gonna shoot 367 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: our value through the roof and I'd spend a day. 368 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: As soon as they decided to part ways with the 369 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: bull scene boom value through the roof. Bitcoin could buy 370 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: the entire city of Saint Petersburg right now, correct economics. Okay, 371 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: December twenty first, at eight pm on ESPN, we got 372 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: the Bad Boys Mowers Gasparia Bowl. I don't care. We've 373 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: got to match up. 374 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 3: Here between Temple at six and six and Florida International 375 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: at eight and four. Temple is currently about a seven 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: and a half point favorite DAN. Before we get into 377 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: the analysis, it is our gift situation for this contest. 378 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: AH our owl friends will be perusing a gift suite. 379 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: They will be going home with an Oakley backpack and 380 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: a neck pillow. A neck pillow. Do you own a 381 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: neck pillow? I do own a neck pillow. They're pretty 382 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: good also, f I used the Golden Panthers. It's not 383 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: just the owls who will have access. But I'm mixed 384 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: on the neck pillow. I think I just need a 385 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: better one. I'm for the idea of a neck pillow. 386 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I just haven't found one that I really like. 387 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: I'm pro neck pillow. I've used it at home too, 388 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: just when it's laying around the house. Damn, look at you, 389 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: casual tie. Here's what we know, ty Owls offense not good, 390 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 3: no good, We're not all that different. But the fact 391 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 3: that they couldn't run this year, and they really could 392 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: for a good chunk of Matt Rules time there in 393 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 3: Philly is disappointing, to say the least. In Jeff collins 394 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: first season, they couldn't really pass it all that much. 395 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 3: The defense wasn't bad, which is to be expected with 396 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 3: Collins's background and. 397 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: What Matt Rule left that team with. Decent on third down, 398 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: Sharif Finch had a nice year on the defensive line. 399 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Temple beat Navy, Tye, that's the thing, okay, so you 400 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: know transition here. I would say for the Owls FIU 401 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: offense not bad. They also couldn't run, so whoof If 402 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: you like running the ball, you might want to watch 403 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: a different game. But they threw the ball well. Alex 404 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: McGuff top half of the conference. Usaqquarterback ladder Thomas Owens 405 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: may be the best receiver in the conference, could have 406 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: looked like their rock. And here's the good news. Ty 407 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: fi used defense was all crash awful. 408 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, ninety second ranked according to Bill Connolly's S and 409 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: P plus metric. 410 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: Yes, and FIU did be marshall, they beat you TSA. 411 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: So but in this specific game, we have trash on trash. 412 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: We call this the trash compactor game. Dan, Yes, we did. 413 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: Shut them all down. Shut them all down, Dan, We're 414 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: all stuck in a trash compactor here for Temple, and 415 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: they're one hundred and fourth rated offense against FIU's ninety 416 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: second ranked defense. I believe in physics you would refer 417 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: to this as the stoppable force versus the movable object. 418 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. I think that's correct. Yeah. Butch Davis, 419 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Collins, Tigh Quality coaches seven and a half points 420 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: spread for Temple. Uh, I think I'm gonna take those points. 421 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna feel a little bit shootouty with 422 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: FIU's ability to move it through the air. 423 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: How's that I'm inclined to go points, But again, keeping 424 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: in mind that we've got a confidence pool, true, I'm 425 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: going to go thirteen points on the owls of Temple 426 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: in a close one. 427 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's about right. Not a lot of confidence. 428 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: I think I think Temple might edge them with some defense. 429 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: Moving on to the Bahamas Bowl, Dan m and not 430 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: a Chick fil A Bahamas bawl anymore. 431 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: No, you've ever been to first off? Was it ever 432 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 3: the Chick fil A Bahamas Ball? I don't think it was. 433 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: It was, okay, I don't think it was the Popeyes 434 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: Bahamas Bowl. 435 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's what it is. Damn it. I'm a bad person. 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: There are so many check and sponsors though in these 437 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: bowl games that I can't blame you for getting them confused. 438 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: Oh fair? Do you have a preference between Chick fil 439 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: A and Popeyes? I've never been to a Popeyes? 440 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: Is that really? There is a Popeyes nearby. I was 441 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: able to locate one, but I've never actually gone to it. 442 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: So my experience is fairly limited to just Chick fil A. 443 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, go to a Popeyes. I've been to it. 444 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: I've been to a Crowns Fried Chicken down in downtown Philly. 445 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Now go to Popeyes. Popeyes is wonderful. 446 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: The Bahamas bull sans a Chicken sponsor. They played this 447 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 3: one in Thomas Robinson Stadium on Nasau, December twenty second, 448 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: at twelve thirty in the afternoon on ESPN, we've got 449 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: the Ohio Bobcats at eight and four, a seven and 450 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: a half point favorite over the UAB Blazers. They finished 451 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: the year at eight and four. This is, you know, 452 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: an interesting game for a variety of reasons. But we 453 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: got to give a shout out to UAB because the 454 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: program was dead, and by dead, I mean literally dead 455 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Now they're back, They're eight 456 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: and four. They're going bowling. They're going to the Bahamas. 457 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 3: That's a pretty cool story just on its own. What 458 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: is our gift situation here for the Bahamas bull Dan. 459 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: Well, they'll be going through a gift suite. They're getting 460 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: our favorite at Sandal brand I associated with bull They 461 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: are getting some ice slides, yes, drawstring, backpack, a beach towel, 462 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: and a bullpin, which makes me think that there are 463 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: not a lot of gifts in the gifts suite. They 464 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: are highlighting the bullpin, so bullpin indeed. Either way, cool 465 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: story for UAB, solid season for Ohio. UAB does not 466 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: move the ball all that well, but they're pretty good 467 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: running the ball. Big fresh and running back in Spencer Brown. 468 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: Good defense, especially against the run. They did not allow 469 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: more than twenty five points. First Conference USA teams after 470 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: November seventh. They beat North Texas. Excuse me, after the 471 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: North Texas game on November seventh, they beat Middle Tennessee. 472 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: They beat Southern Myss. They did. Yeah, absolutely they did. 473 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: They beat UTSA. Everybody has a good win over UTSA, 474 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: who is also somehow good. But yeah, really cool story 475 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: for UAB to be back bowling after returning to FBS 476 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: football Ohio. They themselves a better offense, I would say, 477 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: than UAB, which is why they're favored in this game. 478 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: They themselves are particularly good running the ball. And Nathan Rourke. 479 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: What do you know about Nathan Rourke? Felt like feels 480 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: like he's been there forever, thousand yard rushing quarterback. Tie Yeah, sure, 481 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: at yeah, yeah, yeah. The defense is pretty good. They're 482 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: a solid team, and they've had maybe the most impressive 483 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: MAC win of the season with a comfortable, comfortable win 484 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: over Toledo. So I think there's a lot to like 485 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: about the Bobcats here. I'm thirty one points in favor 486 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: of the Bobcats. I like him outright. 487 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: I like him minus the points. I think their rushing 488 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: game is too much for UAB. Okay, I'm rooting for 489 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: UAB because of their story. 490 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sort of strength on strength running the ball 491 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: versus good run defense in this game. 492 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: Shout out, shout out to them. But I think the 493 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: rushing games a little too much for UAB. And I'm 494 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: gonna go Ohio here yep. I don't think about thirty one. 495 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: Maybe mid twenties famous Idaho Potato Bowl and Albertson Stadium 496 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: in Boise, Idaho. This one is also played on twenty 497 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 3: second of December. They played a little later in the 498 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: day at four pm Eastern on ESPN. We've got the 499 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: Wyoming Cowboys, We've got the Central Michigan Chippewas, and at 500 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 3: last check, we've got to pick them. 501 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: Dan. We do have a pick them. We have In 502 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: speaking of picking, they can pick through a gift suite. 503 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: They can pick Oakley sunglasses. Should they choose an under 504 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: armour backpack and a beanie? Because you're playing a ballgame 505 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: in Idaho and that that feels like a good choice 506 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: to wear a beanie, So it's a good matchup. 507 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: I have a question for you play guarding this game. 508 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: Do we know if Josh Allen's going to play, I 509 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 3: honestly do not know. That seems to be the question. 510 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: He's dealt with injuries this season. He hurt his throwing 511 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 3: shoulder against air Force towards the end of the season 512 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: and it's been touching go ever since. He sounds like 513 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: he wants to play in the game, despite the fact 514 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: that you know, he's probably headed for the NFL reasonably 515 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 3: high pick and I would assume the first round in 516 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: the NFL draft. But it sounds like Josh Allen wants 517 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: to play in this football game. I like Josh Allen. 518 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 3: I don't know if he's playing be where the chippiwas though. 519 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I always pick against Central Michigan, you know, I hold 520 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: that long standing grudge against the Chippewa. Beware the chip Awas, Daniel, 521 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: they have the better of the two quarterbacks in this 522 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: game too, Morris, Beware. 523 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: The chip Awas. They closed out the year they won 524 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 3: five straight. They beat Osio, they beat Ohio. We just 525 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 3: talked about it's a pretty good team. They beat Northern Illinois, 526 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: who I'm gonna pick to beat Duke Okay a little 527 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: later on great defense. Yeah, in the podcast, I can 528 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 3: see them having trouble moving the ball against Wyoming, but 529 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ride that Chippewah wave Dan. We got to 530 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: pick him here, give me the chip Awas outright. Excuse me, 531 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 3: Let's go Central Michigan to the tune of five confidence points. 532 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: So I like him, I just don't like him that much. Yeah. 533 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: Central Michigan's offense is pretty rough, although they do need 534 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: and they get Shane Morris big passing play, so that's good. 535 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: And you're right. They started the season pretty slowly at 536 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: two and three and they finished winning six to seven, 537 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: so they do have a little bit of momentum if 538 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: you believe in such things. They do a good job 539 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: against the pass on defense, and similar story, Wyoming starts 540 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: out very sluggish. Of the Iowa game Oregon, they give 541 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: up forty nine, but giving up forty nine points to 542 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Oregon after that, nobody else scored twenty five against Wyoming. 543 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: This team was led by its defense. They beat Colorado 544 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: State in a very strange sixteen to thirteen defensive slugfest. 545 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: They lead FBS teams and turnover margin, and they have 546 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: a Pisman finalist tie. By the way, when I say 547 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: that this dude is not. He's large. He's like six five, 548 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: two fifty five. He was a former converted receiver, right 549 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: he is. He's just a very good defensive places. If 550 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: he's got moves, crazy moves, he's got crazy moves. The 551 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: offense for Wyoming was largely trash this year. It was 552 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: just they lost too much from twenty sixteen. But the 553 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: defense is really good, especially against the run. They're very 554 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: good on passing downs up front. They're just they swarm. 555 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: I like them a lot, and I think there's something 556 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: about Big Sky Country Oo Sky Conference, that region. I 557 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of pride there. Wyoming to Idaho, 558 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm taking the Cowboys here. We disagree me 559 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: like maybe like seventeen eighteen? Whoa, yeah, how about that? 560 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the Birmingham Bowl. They 561 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: played at Legion Field in Birmingham, Alabama. Hmm, December twenty third, 562 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: at high noon on ESPN. We've got the Bulls of 563 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: South Florida at ten and two, a nice year, a 564 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: two and a half point favored over the Texas Tech 565 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: Red Raiders. They come into this matchup at six and six. Damn, 566 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: what's our gift situation? Please? Birmingham Bowl. We have a 567 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: gift suite, Oakley Sunglasses, Beanie and a big game football, 568 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: So nothing that really jumps off the page. 569 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: Tie, I'll tell you what jumps off the page to 570 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 3: me in this one, Dan, Yeah, give me them points, Baby, 571 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 3: give me all them damn points. I think we're looking 572 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: at a shootout here. I am taking the path of 573 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 3: least resistance and I think that's USF and their offense 574 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 3: and Quentin Flowers against the Texas Tech defense. 575 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: I am not confident, at. 576 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 3: Least not overwhelmingly so in their ability to win this 577 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: game outright, because it could be a contest where whoever 578 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: has the ball asses whoever ends up winning. But I 579 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 3: like USF a little bit more. I think Charlie Strong 580 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 3: knows how to coach against that Texas Tech offense. So 581 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: give me the bulls to the two to fourteen confidence points. 582 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: Here. We don't have a drive chart to review because 583 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: there have been no games since our last show, correct 584 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: but ty, but if do you have that that tune 585 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: like queued up? This is the ranking the S and 586 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: P plus rankings of South Florida's wins. Here we go 587 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: of those teams. 588 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: One twenty nine one eighteen, eighty six, one, twenty three, 589 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 2: one oh three, ninety one, nineteen, one sixty. 590 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: They did not beat any good They did not beat 591 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: a single top I guess seventy five team this year. 592 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: The best team they beat was Temple. Again, not their 593 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: fault how other teams are, but they had a shot 594 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: against Houston. They lose that game, a winnable game ish 595 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: they lose that game twenty eight to twenty four. Obviously, 596 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: UCF an extraordinarily tough team. They lose that game in 597 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: a shootout and looked very good doing so against a 598 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: top ten team, But there really is no game. We're like, yeah, 599 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: I believe in South Florida they beat this team, so 600 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: keep that in mind. But yeah, South Florida had a 601 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: very nice year. You know, the crazy UCF loss. Who 602 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: are you? I think I'm gonna go Texas Tech? Wow, 603 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna go Texas Tech. I was not 604 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: crazy about the offensive transition from USF, but I do 605 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: like the fact that defensively both of these teams got better. 606 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: I like the momentum that Texas Tech has after beating 607 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Texas to finish out the year. I think there is 608 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: a reinvigorated sense among that team. They have stud offensive 609 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: skill guys Kiki Kut, Justin Stockson. I like them both. 610 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to Texas Tech low low, something like eight 611 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: nine points. You are once again seduced by the deep 612 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: blue eyes. 613 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Cliffs, Yeah, blue eyes deep like the sea, 614 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury. 615 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean I think Charlie Strong might already 616 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 1: have wandering eyes in Tampa. So we'll see. All right, 617 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: we disagree, Let's move on. 618 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 3: Also, on December twenty third, the Lockheed Martin Armed Forces 619 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: bull at M and G. Carter Stadium in Fort Worth, Texas. 620 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: This one's at three point thirty in the PM on ESPN. 621 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 3: We got San Diego stayed at ten and two against 622 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: the Army Knights at nine and three. They had a 623 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 3: nice season. They're only giving away a gift suite in 624 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 3: this game, dam which feels wrong to me. 625 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Well, it feels like they're hiding something. Ta Lockey Martin 626 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: is they're giving away something good. We're just never gonna 627 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: find out. You gotta sign an NBA before you get 628 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: that gift suite. Huh here is yes, here's the great 629 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: news about the Armed Forces ball given how Army and 630 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: San Diego State play. Schame's gonna take like two hours. 631 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Schame's gonna go by real quick. It's just run, run, run, run, run, 632 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: run pass. Nope, he scrambled and stayed and bounds run. 633 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, it me great. We got the 634 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: Aztecs against the Black Knights here. 635 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be at Greg Max start. 636 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: Jeff Bnkin's done a really good job at Army. We 637 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: don't talk about it a whole lot here, but had 638 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: a huge win over Navy again this season. 639 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: It's just good to see him back in a ball. 640 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: You can't root against Army, and I'm not rooting against 641 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 3: Army per se in this football game. My cause for 642 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: pause is it's such a tall order to slow down 643 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 3: or shot Penny. This is a dude for San Diego 644 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 3: State finished fifth in the Heisman and for good reason. 645 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 3: Over two thousand yards rushing on the year, nineteen touchdowns. 646 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: Not sure Army's got enough of a running defense to 647 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 3: get that job done. That to me feels like a 648 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 3: bridge too far for this Black Knights team. I love them, 649 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 3: I love them, I really do. But I gotta go 650 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 3: San Diego State to the twoe to thirty seven confidence 651 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 3: points here. 652 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, I think that's right. I like San Diego 653 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: State by about thirty confidence points, not thirty points in 654 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: this game. San Diego State beats Stanford Northern Illinois, they 655 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: beat Arizona State. They had the bad loss to Fresno, 656 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: and the offense wasn't fantastic or shot Penny was fantastic, 657 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: but the offense as a whole was not wonderful. It 658 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: was basically just like I guess we'll give it to 659 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: a shot Penny left right that as I understand it, 660 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: that was the offense this season. Yes, yeah, so that's fine. 661 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: Good wins. And you know Army had you know, Army 662 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: beat Duke A Bowl team, Navy Eastern Michigan whatever, the 663 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,919 Speaker 1: last second lost to North Texas. You know, real fun 664 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: rushing offense. I'm with you, though Ty. The defense, the defense, 665 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: the defense, or I guess in the Armed Forces Bowl 666 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: the defense is not great. So I think I'm gonna 667 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: go San Diego State here with yeah, about thirty confidence points. 668 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: And finally, on December twenty third, another game, a lot 669 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: of action, this one at seven pm Eastern on ESPN 670 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 3: the Dollar General Ball from beautiful lad Peebles Stadium in Mobile, Alabama. 671 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 3: We've got Toledo the Rockets at eleven and two, an 672 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: eight point favorite over Appalachian State. They come into this 673 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 3: one at eight and four. Talk to me about this 674 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: gift suite, Dan, I suspect we're going to have a 675 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 3: disagreement here, all right, So. 676 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 1: Dollar General Ball, we have the Amazon Echo, Maui, Jim Sunglasses, 677 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: Timely Watch Company Watch, and a Wilson Football. So the 678 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: good news for all of the app State and Toledo 679 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: players is all your data will be collected and stored 680 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: and put away, and your conversations potentially recorded. But you 681 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: could turn on your lights with your voice with the 682 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: Echo's that's great. Listen, there's a reason why, Well, was 683 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: it wearable or was it voice activated? Was in our 684 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: garbage bracket, our secret garbage bracket? I think it was 685 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: voice acting. I think it was voice activated technology. Yeah, 686 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: I this does not appeal to me, the voice activation 687 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: at all. 688 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 3: You are surprisingly afraid of new technology. I'm technology surprised 689 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 3: by that. Do you put a piece of tape over 690 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: your your laptop camera? Come on, Tying, who. 691 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: Is interested in looking at me? I am that's for 692 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: sure other than you, ty You just got to take 693 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: precautions and I'm just what who is answer me? This? 694 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: Riddle me this? Dan? Who is interested in looking through 695 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: my camera? I don't know, Ty, Brian Kelly, you're. 696 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: Gonna see if you look through my camera, if you 697 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: hack into my matrix, break into my computer, access the 698 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 3: onboard camera pointed usually at me. You know what, You'll 699 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: probably see a wall. You will see a blank wall 700 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: with no. 701 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: Art on it. That's what you'll see here in my studio. 702 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: I think at a certain point people are gonna be 703 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: able to spy your your podcasting setup. There's nothing to say. 704 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: What filter is he putting? There's nothing here? Oh who 705 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: is Ty talking to to get all this podcasting advice? 706 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't. I'm not a big believer in 707 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: letting everybody into my world. And the Amazon Echo is 708 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: part of it. Sorry, Ty, that's not for me. 709 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: Whatever, what Jim sunglasses? Are they they sound? 710 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sunglass branded sunglasses? Are they edgy? I assume Sammy 711 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: Hagar owns some? Yeah, Okay, No, they're not edgy. They are. 712 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: They are very like luxurious vacation or sunglasses. All right. 713 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 3: Timely watch a good name for a watch. We've talked 714 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 3: about Timely before. And then the Wilson football. It's better 715 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 3: than big game football, if only because I'm familiar with Wilson. 716 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: So here's what I noticed when I looked at this game, 717 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 3: outside of the fact that they're giving away a cool 718 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 3: device like an Amazon Echo Dan, Yeah, we've got two 719 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: good quarterbacks in this game. I suspect who's ever calling 720 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 3: this football game will be all over the fact that 721 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: both Logan Woodside and Taylor Lamb have collectively had fifty 722 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 3: five touchdowns and only eleven interceptions this season. Yeah, it 723 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 3: feels like that will be so much the headline in 724 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,280 Speaker 3: this game that we need to give Logan Woodside Taylor 725 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 3: Lamb some sort of celebrity couple. 726 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: Nickname Lamb wood Lambside. What about in like a Logan 727 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: and out like a Lamb Ty, I'd like to announce 728 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: my official resignation from the Come on, if you want 729 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: to go for it, I will not stop you. I 730 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: cannot partake Ty, I cannot go I'll go Lambside. Okay, Lambside. 731 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: So app State, I've always loved me some app State. 732 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: You know that, I know you've got a really unhealthy 733 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: thing for them. You reach into a grab bag of 734 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: app State wins this year and you're coming out with 735 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: hard candy. There's not much there. There's no fun size Snickers, 736 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: there's no Sweethearts. You're just getting maybe a Werthers, maybe 737 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: a Werthers. They're the best thing app State basically did 738 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: this year was they lost close to Wake Forest and 739 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: you mess. That's that's the highlight at this point. They 740 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: they're all right on the ground. Jalen Moore is pretty good, 741 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: Taylor Lamb as you mentioned, nice year, a good receiver, 742 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: and Ike Lewis. It was I think a down year 743 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: for Scott Sadderfield and the app State defense. But listen, 744 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: Toledo's a good team. There's no shame in matching up 745 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: against Toledo and bowl season perhaps not coming out on top. 746 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: You mentioned Logan Woodside, Terry Swanson, Deontae John some real 747 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: good receiver you can run on Toledo. That's the interesting 748 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: thing to me is what app State will be able 749 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: to do on the ground. But uh, the Toledo defense 750 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: pretty good. First the pass this is this is a 751 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: good game for lower level stardom, and that's unfair to 752 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: call that, to call Logan Woodside that, But I think 753 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,879 Speaker 1: this should be at the very least fun. 754 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 3: I'm excited about this football game. I think Toledo's played 755 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: better teams as you were hinting at I, They're definitely 756 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: more battle tested. I am going to go Toledo outright, 757 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 3: but again, because of that rushing component that you mentioned, 758 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 3: an eight point line here seems like it's too much, 759 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Upstate with the points. But I 760 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 3: do like Toledo outright, and I'm very confident in that. 761 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 3: To the tune of thirty three confidence points. 762 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: Dan, Yeah, I'm gonna go Logan Woodside and Toledo by 763 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: high twenties, early thirties in like a Logan out like 764 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: a lamb. Okay, okay, fair enough. 765 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: Moving on to the Hawaii Bowl in Aloha Stadium. 766 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: In Honolulu, Hawaii, Dan, Mala khaliki maka oh. I do 767 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: like that song. It's the thing to say. 768 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 3: On December twenty fourth, at a thirty pm Eastern time 769 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 3: on ESPN. 770 00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: Mala is the thing to say. 771 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 3: That's right, m hmm, the thing to say when you've 772 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 3: got Houston at seven and four, when you've got Fresno 773 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: at nine and four. H I think Houston's about a 774 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: two and a half point favorite here, Dan, and We've 775 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 3: got an interesting selection of gifts here. 776 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,359 Speaker 1: We do in the Hawaii Bowl, the Hawaii Hawaii Electronics. Yeah, 777 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: gift sweet nothing, voice activated hopefully, Oakley backpack and sunglasses. 778 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 1: Tory Richard Aloha shirt. Who is Who's Tory Richard? Tory Richard? 779 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: I think is Let's see if Tory Richard is a 780 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: known I'm gonna judge based solely on this website. Honolulu 781 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: based resort wear company that loves color and pattern. Okay, 782 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: and I'm looking. It's a good looking website. Tie, good 783 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 1: looking Prince. I would wear some of this men's gift guide. Yeah, 784 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: you want to send some Tory Richard Lounge and vacation. 785 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,280 Speaker 1: Where to tie in myself? I've never worn a Hawaiian 786 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: shirt in my life. Are do you see yourself transitioning 787 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: at no point? And that's a good question too, But no, 788 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: the answer is no, not necessarily to Hawaiian shirts. Tie. 789 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about like the broader genus, the broader 790 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: phylum of that kind of comfort where later in life 791 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever do that. Yeah, but 792 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: you're twenty six now, Tie. I'm talking about later on 793 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 1: down the road, when you're in your your late fifties, 794 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 1: early sixties. Maybe you're a young grandfather something like that. 795 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Are you going to do you see yourself going into 796 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: that kind like I've already made the move on the 797 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: weekends to the ath leisure lifestyle. That's how I've done that. 798 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing that right now, absolutely so that's just the 799 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: next functional step. 800 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 3: But you can you can go to Wegmans in the 801 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: ath leisure in a way that you can't go to Wegmans. 802 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 3: If you're part of the larger, broader genus phylum of 803 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 3: Hawaiian shirts, Tommy Bahama shirts and things. 804 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: Well, you're not gonna You're not gonna wear casties on 805 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: the weekend. What are you gonna wear when you're sixty three? 806 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: That's what I'm asking. Are you gonna go like you're 807 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: like Tony Soprano's number five guy, and you're gonna wear 808 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: all like the Valure No, God, No, I think as suits. No. 809 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: I think what I'll probably find myself doing at that 810 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: advanced stage is probably I have a really nice pair 811 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 3: of slippers, like moccasins. I could see myself wearing the 812 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 3: slippers out places you wouldn't normally wear them. They're not 813 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 3: actually that shoes with lounge wear, but they look like 814 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: they could be shoes. I think I'll push the envelope 815 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 3: as far as that goes. 816 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm talking up top. You're not gonna wear 817 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: a breathable material. It will definitely be breathable, it won't 818 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 1: be this breathable. It won't be Tory Richard breathable. I will. 819 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: I will tell you, low key the thing I will avoid, 820 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: probably the most in later in life, when you know 821 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: you maybe want to hydrobelly a little bit. That kind 822 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: of thing. The coaches polo. Oh my god, well I 823 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: avoid that, Like, no, I'm not. 824 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 3: I had coaches polo is sent to me. I threw 825 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 3: him out, that's the word. 826 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: Like I'd see people our age wearing coaches polo, Like, 827 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing? Don't do that? That looks horrible. 828 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: You're giving up already. Yeah no, uh so on that 829 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: tangent who's playing in this game again, Also a beach towel, 830 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: pro Athletics surf trunks performance T shirt that does a 831 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 1: good suite. Not bad. That's a that's a good collection 832 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: of gifts. Bad. This this game is President State in Houston. Yeah, 833 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: really good. I mean obviously transition here for Houston, and 834 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: they beat USF, They beat Navy, smu Arizona, Texas Tech, Tulane, Memphis, 835 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: all winnable for Houston. So schedule, I mean, listen, their 836 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: record tells the story. But they've been all over the 837 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: places here. Houston has. Yes, they benched Kyle Allen. I 838 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: think at the end of September, Kyle Postmo was pretty 839 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,319 Speaker 1: good do catalog the Texas transfer. They ran all right 840 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: with him, A couple good senior receivers, real good upfront 841 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: with that Oliver, especially against the run. So a good 842 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: Houston team, I think, I don't know. 843 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 3: I think I trust in Fresno a little bit more. 844 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: Two of their four losses came against Alabama and Washington. 845 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. 846 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 3: So I think they're a pretty good team. Jeff Tedford 847 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: has done a really good job there. I'm gonna go 848 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,720 Speaker 3: Fresno outright to the tune of fifteen confidence points here. 849 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 3: A little bit of a shorter jaunt for them to 850 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 3: get out to a Lolaha stadium as well on Christmas Eve. 851 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Houston Big Airport might be a little 852 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: bit easier. 853 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but the Big Airport does not move 854 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 3: them any closer geographically speaking to an island in the 855 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 3: middle of the Pacific Ocean. 856 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: So I like Fresno State, but we disagree. I'm gonna 857 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: go Houston here. I don't know if I fully trust 858 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: Marcus mcmarion is a good quarterback against a pretty good defense. 859 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 1: I just burped, excuse me, And Fresno's good running the ball. 860 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: I think the defensive improvement they had this year. I 861 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,000 Speaker 1: think the defensive coordinator. Look, I tweeted this earlier primarily 862 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: not even primarily exclusively CFL experience. Yeah, great, great love. 863 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: I love the steps that Fresno State took this year. 864 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: They win one out of two against Boise, They beat 865 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: San Diego State, which is an impressive win. Wyoming another 866 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: impressive win. But at that same time, I think I 867 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: trust the overall talent level and the younger Yeah. I 868 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: like the Fresno coaching staff, but I'm going Houston here 869 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: with the basically the exact same confidence about fifteen. All right, 870 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: let's move on. 871 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl. Dam 872 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: we got another chick Chicken, Yeah, chicken sponsor the Heart 873 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 3: of Dallas Bowl. They played in the Cotton Bowl in Dallas. 874 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 3: It is the day after Christmas, Boxing Day. Mm hmm 875 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 3: if you well, one thirty pm Eastern time on ESPN. 876 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 3: The Utah utes at six and six, a seven point 877 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 3: favorite over West Virginia at seven and five. West Virginia 878 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 3: without Will Greer has been a real treat. And by 879 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 3: a real treat, I mean definitely not a treat at all. Now, now, 880 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 3: I did see some speculation he could play in this game. 881 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's confirmed. 882 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: Don't do that, Will Greer. 883 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, for now, if he is out, and that is 884 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 3: my assumption, I am going to go Utah and Tyler Huntley. 885 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: He missed the final game of the year due to 886 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 3: an undisclosed injury. I am going to assume he's coming 887 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 3: back for this football game. So basically a ton of 888 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 3: assumptions at work here. 889 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,879 Speaker 1: As I pick Utah. 890 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 3: To the tune of twenty five confidence points, I like 891 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 3: them better if Will Greer is out. Even if Will 892 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: Greer is back, we don't know what state he will 893 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 3: be in, all. 894 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: Right, I think we agree, ty I really do. And 895 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: by the way, the Zaxby's heard of Dallas balls, gift 896 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: suite and a football and probably a lot of chicken. 897 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm assuming this suit chicken. I've we'd say this every year. 898 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us in the last 899 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,799 Speaker 1: year has finally had Zaxby's for the first time. 900 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 3: No. 901 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: Never. Every time I'm in an area, a city of 902 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: town with a Zaxby's, there's always the Bojangles or a Can's, 903 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: or a Popeyes or a Chick fil A, And I 904 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 1: just would always rather have that, And have heard Zaxby's 905 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: is fine. I've just always rather have those other chicken establishments, 906 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,279 Speaker 1: So that's cool. Yeah, a weird year for Utah, a 907 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: very un Utah year. They beat Arizona, which was their 908 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: only top fifty win on the season. They lose six 909 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: to seven in October November. Good running back in Zach Moss, 910 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley as you mentioned, and being beat up, but 911 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: he did flash when he was healthy. Darren Carrington didn't 912 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 1: make a huge difference the transfer from Oregon, but all 913 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: around a pretty good defense for Utah, which is probably 914 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: the most normal thing in West Virginia. Had their big 915 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: wins against Iowa State, which is very strange to say, 916 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: and Texas Tech and yeah, you mentioned it, well, Greer 917 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,239 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, that offense is really fun. And good, 918 00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: really good trio receivers. Dia is mostly okay, but I 919 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: think I'm going to Utah here. Utah is I still 920 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: believe in our theory that you do not want to 921 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: play Utah when you have cracks, and literally West Virginia 922 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,359 Speaker 1: has cracks. So I'm going to go with Utah as 923 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown favorite, probably in the seventeen eighteen range. Moving 924 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: on to the Quick Lane Bowl. 925 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 3: We had promised a two hour special standalone podcast talking 926 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,799 Speaker 3: about the Quick Lane Bowl at Ford Field. Yep, I 927 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 3: don't think we were serious about doing that extended podcast. 928 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: Oh Bo December twenty sixth, also in Boxing Day, this 929 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 3: one at five point fifteen pm Eastern on ESPN. We've 930 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 3: got Duke at six and six, four and a half 931 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 3: points the favorite over Northern Illinois. The Huskies finished the 932 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 3: year eight and four. This is what I would classify 933 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 3: as an elite level gift suite situation. 934 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: Ty, You're not wrong. You're not at all wrong. The 935 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 1: Quick Lane Bowl is giving away one hundred and seventy 936 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 1: five dollars gift certificates to best. Okay, not bad. That's incredible. 937 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: First of all, if that was it, Ty. 938 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's better than the Zager What was the Zaxby's 939 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 3: bull football. 940 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, let's go the Quick Lane Bowl. JBL Bluetooth headphones, 941 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: big year for Bluetooth. Those are probably really good headphones. 942 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't review Bluetooth headphones, but I assume 943 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: JBL makes a quality pair. I don't assume. Yeah, life 944 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: size fat head decal for each participant of his own likeness. 945 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: I would that is the only gift and be totally cool. 946 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 1: Hold up your own head at a basketball game after 947 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: the fact. That's perfect. I want nothing more in life. 948 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: An Ogio backpack, though, with the tag would be nice 949 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,799 Speaker 1: and good news. The Quick Lane Ball's giving them away 950 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: a mini helmet, a hoodie, a workout pair of workout 951 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: short it's a winter hat, and a vintage football. You 952 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: know what, Quick Lane Ball. That's a that's a big 953 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,280 Speaker 1: fat salute from the solid verbal you know it? Baby? 954 00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 3: All right, Northern Illinois has a d that I think 955 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 3: I like more than anything else. 956 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: In this game, Dan, they were. 957 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 3: Really good shout out Sutton Smith. Yeah, they're really good 958 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 3: all year against the run. Take a look at a 959 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: game they played earlier in the year against San Diego State. 960 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 3: We talked about them before we talked about Rashad Penny 961 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 3: before him being fifth in the Heisman Trophy balloting, blah 962 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 3: blah blah, over. 963 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: Two thousand yards rushing. Only two teams all year that. 964 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 3: Held him under four and a half a carry. One 965 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 3: of them was Boise, the other was NIU. Right, And 966 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 3: that's important to note here because Duke was much more 967 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 3: effective as a running team this year than they were 968 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 3: a passing team. We talked so much about Daniel Jones 969 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 3: and how he's got so much promise for Duke. Well, 970 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 3: he was a much better runner this season than he 971 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: was a passer. And I think that's an interesting matchup 972 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 3: here that definitely favors the Huskies. 973 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,400 Speaker 1: I like a close game. I like Niu outright to 974 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: the two to seventeen confidence points. Dan, I really wanted 975 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,720 Speaker 1: to believe ty because that I defense is really really good. 976 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to know because what Duke's defense was very 977 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: good this year. They took a lot of chances, they 978 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: brought a lot of heat, they confused a lot of quarterbacks, 979 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: they shut down a lot of running games. The problem was, 980 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: as you mentioned and alluded to, Daniel Jones might not 981 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: just have been a bad passer. And led by his feet. 982 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: He may have been the worst throwing quarterback in the 983 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,279 Speaker 1: ACC this year, I know was. He had disappointingly abysmal 984 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: So that is worrisome against the NIU team. But I 985 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 1: do think there is a talent differential. I like the 986 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: fact that David Cutcliffe, as a steadying influence there now 987 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: has a defense time to game plan. I think he's 988 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 1: all right. I like that NIU beat Nebraska. They had 989 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 1: the nice win against Western Michigan, a different Western Michigan 990 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: team this year, obviously, But I'm going to go with 991 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: Duke here. I'm a little bit more confident than you 992 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: are here. So Duke finished out the season pretty well. 993 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: They beat what Northwestern early wake later on, So I'm 994 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna go Duke with about I don't know, nine or 995 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: ten points here are confidence ten points? Huh? Yeah? How 996 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: about that? We just agree moving on three more bowl 997 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: games here? Yeah? Also, by the way, can I make 998 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 1: a very quick request about the Quick Lane Bowl? Ish? Yeah, 999 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to Detroit in late January for a wedding 1000 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: because obviously, who doesn't go to Michigan in late January. 1001 00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: I need to know where to get the best Detroit 1002 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: style pizza in the greater Detroit area. All right, I 1003 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: know some people say Buddies is like a popular place. 1004 00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: I want to know because I've had good Detroit pizza 1005 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: outside of Detroit. I want to know in the greater 1006 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: Detroit area where to get that best like that caramelized 1007 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,000 Speaker 1: cheesy crust kind of thing. That's what I want. Sorry, continue, 1008 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,320 Speaker 1: Let's go to Phoenix. 1009 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 2: Dan. 1010 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 3: Also on Boxing Day, December twenty sixth, nine pm Eastern 1011 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,399 Speaker 3: on ESPN, We've got k State the Wildcats at seven 1012 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 3: and five, a two and a half point favorite over 1013 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 3: UCLA at six and six. I think in underrated gift 1014 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 3: suite here, Dan. 1015 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cactus Bowl is doing a pretty good job 1016 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,839 Speaker 1: taking care of its players. You have the the yetti 1017 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: cooler and tumbler. Something to keep you cool out in 1018 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: the desert. Sure, keep your keep your liquids cool. You 1019 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,280 Speaker 1: got a fossil watch, an Ogio backpack, legendary hat, JBL 1020 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: flip for a speaker, a blanket. It does get chilly 1021 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: at night in the desert. Tie it's a miss. I 1022 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: don't know that. It's this cloud cover, right, you got 1023 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,319 Speaker 1: no cloud cover. It does get chili. You get that 1024 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: that that low pressure. I think it's low pressure that 1025 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,360 Speaker 1: comes on into the desert. So yeah, this is, you know, 1026 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,640 Speaker 1: Kansas State UCLA A strange matchup. I don't know, because 1027 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: I know there are Kansas State coaches making their way 1028 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: to UTEP. The offensive coordinator, I think he's staying on 1029 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: for this game. But there are eyes elsewhere on the 1030 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: Kansas State staff. Bill Snyder announced or there are rumblings 1031 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: that he is coming back for next year at seventy seven, 1032 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,919 Speaker 1: seventy eight, seventy nine years old, whatever he is now. 1033 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,440 Speaker 1: And you say like going through their own transitions, So distractions, 1034 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,800 Speaker 1: I would say, but two teams that had strange years. 1035 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: I think Kansas State's a little better. 1036 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 3: They had strange years. You already know my philosophy on 1037 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 3: bowl games and coaches who. 1038 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 1: Leave or are findered. 1039 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, so there's no way I could possibly go with 1040 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 3: UCLA in this football game. I Am going to go 1041 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,800 Speaker 3: k State outright. The other interesting factoid that mainly interests 1042 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:22,479 Speaker 3: Tie Hill de bramt Oh. I have not heard any 1043 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 3: chatter about Josh Rosen being held out of this game. 1044 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 3: By all accounts, he's healthy, he's practicing. It would not 1045 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,839 Speaker 3: surprise me if he caught a wicked case of the 1046 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 3: flu before kickoff and just couldn't play. 1047 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: You've got the black lung pop. 1048 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 3: It would not surprise me if that happened, because, in 1049 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,640 Speaker 3: case you haven't looked, Josh Rosen is projected to be 1050 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 3: a top five pick. 1051 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, rightfully, so when he is on, he is incredible. 1052 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 1: You sla though, Yeah, you're right, the big mess. They 1053 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,319 Speaker 1: beat A and M and it was all downhill from there. 1054 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,719 Speaker 1: They do beat Oregon, but it's with no Justin Herberts, 1055 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: I think the offense had a nice enough with Jed Fish. 1056 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: I think they made some they took some strides forward. 1057 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: Jordan lastly had a breakout year. The defense was just 1058 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: a joke. 1059 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 3: Tie. Yeah, I was gonna say, it's probably safe to 1060 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,360 Speaker 3: assume that whatever case State runs on offense, UCLA is 1061 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 3: not going to stop it. 1062 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: Not in a game. It doesn't mean anything. You know, 1063 00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: when you reach into the back of your fridge and 1064 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like oh this is still here, this, 1065 00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it has developed a colony. There is 1066 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 1: a lost city in this topperware of meatballs. That's the 1067 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: UCLA's run defense. That's where they hang out the back 1068 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 1: of your fridge. And Kannastate isn't great. They beat Oklahoma 1069 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 1: State and Iowa State, two very good wins, but up 1070 00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,360 Speaker 1: and down in the air. I like the steps that 1071 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: the receivers took no matter who. The quarterback was pretty 1072 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: stout up front. So I'm going to go with just 1073 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 1: the consistency of Kansas State here. I think they went 1074 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: a close one. I'm going to say low teens thirteen 1075 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: fourteen point confidence here, I'm going to go eighteen. Okay. Also, also, Ty, 1076 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 1: if you are visiting the the Greater Phoenix area for 1077 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,240 Speaker 1: this game, Pizzeria Bianco or Peteleta both great pizza places 1078 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 1: or great Pizza town. Two more games. 1079 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 3: Let's move on to December twenty seventh. Yes, at one 1080 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,879 Speaker 3: point thirty. Also in ESPN, we've got Florida State at 1081 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 3: six and six, a fifteen and a half point favorite 1082 00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 3: over Southern Miss. They come into this game at eight 1083 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: and four. Your gift situation, Dan. 1084 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: Your gift situation in the Independence Bowl is fine, gift 1085 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: sweet timely watch new era skull cap in a football 1086 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: It's fine, nothing great. 1087 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: This is an interesting matchup for me because you know 1088 00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 3: how I feel about coaches when they leave and what 1089 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 3: that does to bowl teams. I don't know if that 1090 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 3: plays too much of a factor here. I don't think 1091 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 3: the problem with Florida State was that they were looking 1092 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 3: to mail it in. I feel like the guys who 1093 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 3: are out there played hard, but by virtue of not 1094 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 3: having a quarterback and maybe by virtue of just not 1095 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 3: being as good collectively as we thought preseason. It didn't 1096 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 3: show on the win loss record, but they were playing 1097 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 3: hard for the most part. I think they're good enough 1098 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 3: to win this game to cover this spread, even if 1099 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 3: it's just cam Akers twenty five times. 1100 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,400 Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, fair enough, I mean there is I mean, 1101 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 1: it goes against your rule kind of right, it does? 1102 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: It does. 1103 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 3: This is one exception where I am going to go 1104 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 3: FSU despite the fact that they lost a coach. 1105 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty good defense. Florida State signature win, barely beating Wake. 1106 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: What's up? What a year? Also signature win that time 1107 00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: they had to reschedule a game. They decided not to 1108 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: reschedule because they really wanted to get into a ball game, 1109 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: keep a weird streak alive. So yeah, what a weird 1110 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: year for Florida State. Southern miss pretty good year. I 1111 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: like Ito Smith, good running back Corey Robertson. I would 1112 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: say maybe best receiver in Conference USA. He and Thomas 1113 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: Owens very good receivers this year. What do you know 1114 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: about Rakkeem booth Ty? What do you know about rokey 1115 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: on Ty? Amazing linebacker for Southern Myss. The talent differential 1116 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: I think is going to be too much. You're right. 1117 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: I think Florida State keeps as simple. I think they 1118 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: are energized by a new era. By the way, this 1119 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: game is sponsored by walk Ons Bistro and Bar. It's 1120 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: the walk Ons bstro and Bar Independence Bowl. I didn't 1121 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 1: even give the name of the bowl, did I? Yeah, 1122 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: I mean you said Independence Bowl. Okay, yeah, walk Ons. 1123 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: It's a bistro and bar. Right, it appears walk Ons. 1124 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: I've never been to. I don't think I've been to 1125 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: a walk Ons. Maybe I have, I don't know. They're 1126 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: in Louisiana and Texas. It is a sports bar. They 1127 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,160 Speaker 1: have waffle fries. Van Pelt appears on their website, so 1128 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: he is affiliated with them in some fashion. They spell 1129 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: bistro in a way too cute eaux way yea they 1130 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: that thing. I'm not listen. You want to you want 1131 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 1: to say, go Tigers with the g e a u X. 1132 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. That's cool. Not with it. I 1133 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: don't know. It's too much. It's asking a lot so 1134 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 1: good look in restaurant as far as I can tell, 1135 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,600 Speaker 1: independence bawl. I'm going to take Florida State here low twenties. 1136 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,919 Speaker 1: And finally, you did you mention a new era at 1137 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Florida State? Yeah? 1138 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 3: I did, perfect segue to talk about the New Era 1139 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 3: Pinstripe Bowl. They played in Yankee Stadium in the Bronx. 1140 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 3: They play this one on December twenty seventh at five 1141 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 3: point fifteen pm Eastern Time on ESPN DAN A clash 1142 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 3: between two seven and five Titans. Yes, we've got the 1143 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 3: Iowa hawk guys a three point favorite over the Boston 1144 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 3: College Eagles. Everyone is going to make fun of this game, 1145 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,919 Speaker 3: and they're going to make fun of it because it's 1146 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 3: between Iowa and BC and it's not an exciting matchup. 1147 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 3: They're going to make fun of it because the gift 1148 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 3: suite is only a variety of New Era products. People 1149 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 3: are going to make fun of it sight unseeing, so 1150 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 3: they just don't want to watch it. There's really no 1151 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 3: sex appeal here. But in fairness, I really do like 1152 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 3: the year that Nate Stanley had for Iowa. 1153 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1154 01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely what a campaign as a sophomore, only six interceptions 1155 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 3: the full season. Iowa maybe not the most exciting team 1156 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 3: this season, but they had a quality win over Ohio State. 1157 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 3: They damn near beat Penn State if it weren't for 1158 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,640 Speaker 3: a touchdown in the back of the end zone to 1159 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 3: close out the game and lose twenty to nineteen. This 1160 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 3: is a good football team that went toe to toe 1161 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 3: against some of the better teams in the Big Ten. 1162 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 3: And despite the fact that BC sort of invented itself 1163 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 3: as like this power rushing attack behind aj Dillon, I 1164 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 3: am still gonna have to go Iowa here, gotta beat 1165 01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,720 Speaker 3: my heart Dan. 1166 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: Okay, really good model ideas with slogan ideas for Iowa football. Listen, 1167 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: not that bad. Nah, Hey, they had a quality win. 1168 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Hey they almost beat this team. Just I can see 1169 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: it on the poster now. Yeah, yeah, this game is fine. 1170 01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: I think there's good stories here. I mean, Iowa obviously 1171 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,640 Speaker 1: had the signature, went over Ohio State, they had the 1172 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 1: early good win against Iowa State. It wasn't a great offense. 1173 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: It was a disappointing year. I think for Ackronwadley and 1174 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the running game on the ground, But yeah, you're right, 1175 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Nate Stanley was a revelation at times. The defense played 1176 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: really well up front. I think they only gave up 1177 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 1: twenty five plus points once in Big Ten play and 1178 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,479 Speaker 1: that was to Wisconsin. Game got real ugly, real quick, 1179 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: but otherwise really nice here in the Big Ten. Boston 1180 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,919 Speaker 1: College I think low key a very good story as well. 1181 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 1: In the ACC they beat Northern Illinois, which, again, especially 1182 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,480 Speaker 1: to you, that must be impressive. Sure they beat Louisville, 1183 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: they beat Florida State, Yes they were down years down. 1184 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Defense for Louisville and Florida State was a mess, but yeah, 1185 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: AJ Dillon was really nice. The duo of Zach Allen 1186 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: and Harold Landry was wonderful, maybe one of the best 1187 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: three bookend defensive line duos in the ACC with Clemson 1188 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 1: and maybe I don't even know who else. Who else 1189 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: was good? NC State had NC State lined, Yeah, Boston College. 1190 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: If Daniel Jones was not the worst passing ACC quarterback, 1191 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: it was probably Anthony Brown. It just yeah, you know, 1192 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: it's a reality hit. A couple of good games but 1193 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:01,160 Speaker 1: mostly disappointing. I'm going to go Iowa as well. I'm 1194 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna go with the Hawks as well. And in addition, 1195 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 1: if anybody is visiting New York, Ty will give you directions. 1196 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 1: It's a quick drive to Allentown and the Eastern PA, 1197 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the area in which Ty lives, and he will put 1198 01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: you up. It's real. He's got a big couch. No, 1199 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: if you're coming to If you're coming to New York 1200 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: for this game, tweet us or tweet me. If you 1201 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: need any food recommendations, happy to help. There's a ton 1202 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: of good food. Don't eat at the three story Olive 1203 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,120 Speaker 1: Garden if you're coming to New York. That's all I ask. 1204 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Fair enough. So, yeah, Iowa, are you picking? God? I don't. 1205 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm not super confident this game. I'm gonna go like 1206 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 1: ten to eleven. All right, I'm gonna go Iowa nineteen points. 1207 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, there you have it. Uh, thank you 1208 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 3: for bearing with us. Fun show covered a bunch of 1209 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,960 Speaker 3: ground here in the Bowls season. By the time we 1210 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 3: do our next show, there will be bulls that are 1211 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 3: in the books which we can discuss briefly. But for 1212 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 3: the most part we're going to be talking recruiting and 1213 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,440 Speaker 3: the new signing day format. We're going to be talking 1214 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 3: about some additional Bowl games that you might be on 1215 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 3: the fence about that you might still need to fill 1216 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 3: out for your confidence pool. The picks, at least to 1217 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 3: my knowledge, don't lock, which means that obviously the games 1218 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 3: that you've selected that have been played, you can't change those, 1219 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 3: But the ones that have yet to be played, you 1220 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:25,640 Speaker 3: can change those. You can move them around a little 1221 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 3: bit if your confidence wanes or there's an injury. So 1222 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 3: we will be here all throughout bull season. We're going 1223 01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,959 Speaker 3: to preview a bunch more games. We got four Bowl 1224 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,560 Speaker 3: preview shows. Next Wednesday is going to be one of 1225 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,560 Speaker 3: them again, in addition to some of the other stuff 1226 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 3: that is coming in the recruiting world. So on that note, 1227 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 3: follow us on Twitter, follow us on Facebook, follow us 1228 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 3: on Instagram, Head on out to the subreddit post What's. 1229 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 1: On your Mind? 1230 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 3: It's reddit dot com slash our slash a solid veriable 1231 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 3: buyver ball Ers forverballers, of course, and most importantly, if 1232 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 3: you you think you might be in Atlanta, either for 1233 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 3: the game or otherwise, if you think you might be 1234 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,440 Speaker 3: interested in the live show, if maybe you checked on 1235 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 3: tickets but saw they're sold out. Give us a holler, 1236 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 3: SOLIVERB at gmail dot com. Let us know you're interested, 1237 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, we'll keep you in the loop 1238 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: when we're gonna put our next batch up for sale. 1239 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 3: Agree for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1240 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 3: for myself, Tie hilde Brand, Stay warm out there, wherever 1241 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,320 Speaker 3: you may be. We'll catch you all in a week. 1242 01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 3: In the meantime, stay solid, peace,