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Speaker 1: How about one who is Deebo Samuel gonna be on

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Speaker 1: Maybe a little something about Brandon Ayuk as well. It

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Speaker 1: is cut down day. We got some teams to keeping

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Speaker 1: What does it all mean? We will dig into all

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Speaker 1: the big moves. Also got a big change to NFL

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Speaker 1: ownership rules that is now official. Now the crafts aren't

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Speaker 1: going anywhere. We will explain to you though, how it

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Speaker 2: We haven't been cut yet.

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the insiders alongside Judy Bautista, Nian rapaport

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Peliicero. A lot of moves, a ton

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Speaker 1: of moves around the NFL, and in fact, there are

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Speaker 1: still four teams that have not announced their final cuts

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Speaker 2: Of this show.

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Speaker 1: We will get to all of those significant transactions.

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Speaker 2: Around the league.

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Speaker 1: But let's start out with a significant quote out of Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: where Bengals head coach Zach Taylor spoke to the media

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Speaker 1: today for the first time since his star wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase began practicing again on Sunday. Obviously a big

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Speaker 1: Still no contract for Chase, but Zach Taylor certainly sounds

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Speaker 2: That guy to be in uniform.

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Speaker 1: What accounts ian Zach Taylor today saying that he does

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise again with Chase getting back onto the field.

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Speaker 1: Where do we stand though, in terms of the contract

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Speaker 3: First of all, great quote, great quote from Zach Taylor

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Speaker 3: it's fair to say that Zach Taylor has kept it

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Speaker 3: too an absolute and utter minimum. As far as discussing

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Speaker 3: the only one of these things where we've gotten almost

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Speaker 3: This all makes sense. My understanding is the two sides

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Speaker 4: We will see over the next I don't know how

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Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever seen a cent in

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Speaker 1: Judy, this has been a string unique situation for the

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Speaker 6: Well, today, Robert Salla, to me, sounded like a continuation.

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Speaker 6: If you remember about a week ago, maybe two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: Point, all right, So it is cut down.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, all teams are required to get down

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs just did. They confirmed what.

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Speaker 1: Ian reported earlier today, which is that the Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: waving wide receiver Kadarius Tony, former Giants first round draft pick.

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Speaker 1: they also just announced too that they have waived Justin Ross,

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Speaker 2: They drafted two quarterbacks this year.

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Speaker 1: You know who doesn't need another quarterback right now would

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Speaker 6: Well, first of all, doesn't it feel like more teams

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Speaker 2: I feel that way than we've seen in the past.

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Speaker 6: Giants, first of all, the obvious Daniel Jones is coming

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Speaker 6: It's fluid, so certainly you could see changes here, but

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Speaker 6: And Tommy DeVito, look, he did provide a spark last

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Speaker 1: There were a bunch of teams that went with two

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Speaker 1: in kept four quarterbacks. The question now is will four

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Speaker 3: Right, of course, about the Cleveland Browns, and you're right,

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Speaker 4: They have dtr who they really like for the future.

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Speaker 3: And I would imagine view him as a potential future

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Speaker 3: And you're right, guys, there are plenty of time to

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Speaker 1: Well, so many people within the league over the past

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Speaker 11: You know, it's tough tests every day going against our defense,

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Speaker 4: DEEPO.

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Speaker 6: You had a good camp and obviously there are very

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Speaker 11: Lit The one thing that you know, I kind of

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Speaker 4: For it's like it's not.

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Speaker 2: So I just got one question for you on a Deebo.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you get out of here with me

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Speaker 1: I think it's been in the show every single day.

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Speaker 4: All right, try all right?

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Speaker 3: Good, good effort, Tom, good effort. I want to talk

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Speaker 3: about you then, Deebo. You are twenty eight years old.

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Speaker 3: You are one of the more, if not the most

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Speaker 4: They have to be physical, they have to block. You

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Speaker 11: So like this off season of you know, I've lost

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Speaker 2: I've I've got a photo.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can go wide on me here,

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Speaker 2: It was just two years ago. It was a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy, the guy throwing you passes, Well, we'll

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Speaker 4: Brock party. That's a different conversation for a different day.

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Speaker 3: But you have seen him now this is your third

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Speaker 11: You're talking about Christian mccafrey. Man, the guy's a machine man. Man,

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Speaker 1: So Deebo, last thing for you, Monday Night, You've been

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, ain't gonna give you too.

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Speaker 11: Much of a head start, man, but you turn you

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Speaker 2: Athlete, you actually and you think what you think?

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Speaker 1: the lot to look forward to having you back here.

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Speaker 2: On the Insiders real soon, man, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen days away from kicking back on the couch watching

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Speaker 1: NFL owners gathered today in Eagan, Minnesota to consider and

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Speaker 12: We've been very deliberate on this private equity. I think it's,

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Speaker 12: ten percent, so much less significant position, but I think

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Speaker 12: it's I think it's an appropriate thing to give teams

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Speaker 12: at liquidity and to reinvest in the game into their teams,

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Speaker 12: and I think it's as a positive development for us.

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Speaker 12: And I don't think all teams will take advantage of that,

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Speaker 12: but they will if they need that. I think it's

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Speaker 12: a it's a very good opportunity for them. On Curtis Martin,

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Speaker 12: Curtis deserves a tremendous amount of credit for bringing together,

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Speaker 12: you know, several incredibly blue chip firms between Blackstone, CBC, Carlisle,

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Speaker 12: and I think he has been the leader that he

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Speaker 12: is shown in tremendous leadership. He will be investing along

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Speaker 12: with them personally into his company as well as bringing

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Speaker 12: in an additional firm which is primarily focused on getting

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Speaker 12: people people of color into ownership positions. And this is

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Speaker 12: something that we've long fought for and tried to find

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Speaker 12: ways to encourage that. And it's a former NFL employeeho

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Speaker 12: happens to be black also Don Cornwell, who is a

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Speaker 12: great executive and will likely be CEO of that. So

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Speaker 12: I think for a diversity front, it's a very positive

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Speaker 12: thing and that Curtis has been at the front of that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pelaicerro, Judy Batista Ian

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Speaker 1: rapport with you.

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Speaker 2: Judy.

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Speaker 1: I want to start here with really the only two

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Speaker 1: words and all that that I understood, which was Curtis Martin. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that is the Pro Football Hall of Fame running back

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Speaker 1: who is also the co founder of Lootis, a platform.

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Speaker 2: That is part of this consortium group, which is one of.

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Speaker 1: The four permitted funds that are allowed to invest in

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Speaker 1: NFL teams. Can you explain the other like minute and

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Speaker 1: fifty three seconds there to me?

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Speaker 6: All Right, the most important thing to know is that

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Speaker 6: private equity funds are not going to be running your

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Speaker 6: football team. They're not going to own your favorite football team.

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Speaker 6: They can buy very small shares of football teams ten percent,

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Speaker 6: which is much less than they could buy in other leagues,

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Speaker 6: which I think have a cap at thirty percent for

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Speaker 6: most of the major sports leagues in the United States.

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Speaker 6: But what this is is you heard Roger Gordell say,

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Speaker 6: like it's capital. It's a ready way for owners to

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Speaker 6: access cash, millions, hundreds of millions of dollars in cash.

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Speaker 2: And that is important for teams.

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Speaker 6: Why well, lots of teams have, for instance, stadium projects

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Speaker 6: that they're working on, really expensive stadium projects that they're

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Speaker 6: working on, Facilities that they.

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Speaker 2: Need to upgrade. That's a really expensive thing.

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Speaker 6: This is a way for owners to get cash to

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Speaker 6: invest in the team, to invest in things surrounding the team.

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Speaker 6: It's also indicative of the rising valuations of teams. Whenever

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Speaker 6: a team comes up for so you see the numbers

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Speaker 6: go up, up, up and we're all amazed at how

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Speaker 6: much they sell for. The Commanders just sold last year

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Speaker 6: for north of six billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a very small pool.

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Speaker 6: Of people who have the wherewithal and the desire to

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Speaker 6: buy a sports franchise, and so they need to take

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Speaker 6: on limited partners. This is just going to be another

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Speaker 6: way to get a limited partner. And of course when

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Speaker 6: funds are collected, like private equity funds, when they are pooled,

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Speaker 6: they can write a much bigger check as a limited

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Speaker 6: partner than an individual can.

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Speaker 3: They're right, Judy, And it's not just infrastructure though certainly

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Speaker 3: the ability to improve stadiums, improve facilities, that's really come

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Speaker 3: in to focus more.

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Speaker 4: I would say the last two or three years.

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Speaker 3: Then I don't know at any time I can remember,

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Speaker 3: and that having that cash on hand to do that

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Speaker 3: is helpful also expected to be helpful when it comes

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Speaker 3: to player contracts. I mean, if you fully fund a

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Speaker 3: big time player contract, you have to take the cash,

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Speaker 3: you have to put it in essentially an account, and

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Speaker 3: it has to.

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Speaker 4: Sit there while it's fully guaranteed.

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Speaker 3: This allows more teams to take more just to have

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Speaker 3: more cash if they need it for these contracts. The

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Speaker 3: other thing I would say, and you touch on, this

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Speaker 3: is where we talk about the evaluation of some of

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Speaker 3: these franchises. Every team that does this, every team that

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Speaker 3: accepts the up to ten percent of this essentially outside

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Speaker 3: private equity money, is going to get a new valuation

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Speaker 3: at a time when teams are going to be scrambling

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Speaker 3: to get money to invest. I would expect this to

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Speaker 3: raise the value of every franchise that decides to do this,

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Speaker 3: probably raise the franchise the value of every franchise anyway,

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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 4: Something that is very good.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how many teams we're going to

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Speaker 3: get sold over the course of the next ten years,

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Speaker 3: but if one does, all it is going to do

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Speaker 3: is raise the price.

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Speaker 4: Which is good for the team, good for everyone.

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Speaker 3: The league sort of embracing a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: new day here in a somewhat different and more limited

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Speaker 3: way than maybe some of the other sports are.

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Speaker 2: A lot more from Judy.

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Speaker 1: You can read her article on this story NFL dot

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Speaker 1: Com slash Fatista.

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Speaker 2: But after this, oh, let's get back on the field.

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Speaker 8: What a scene for the first ever NFL draft in Detroit, Michigan,

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Speaker 8: the Motor City di choy.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back to Detroit twenty twenty four. NFL Brad

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Speaker 2: is now on the way.

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Speaker 13: The Chicago Mayor are now on the cop.

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Speaker 2: Ridney Burn pick Kylen.

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Speaker 1: What here is jac.

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Speaker 2: The b Ridney second pick Jayden Daniel.

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Speaker 8: So it is the rating Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 2: The New England Patriots slect great may.

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Speaker 10: Burnback ear Donfardo select Marvin Harrison Junior and.

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray is grinning from ear to ear.

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Speaker 13: Locks Danglos Trucker s Joe Old.

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Speaker 8: Jim Hoopbonin's first pick back of the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Ridney sixth pick the lad neighbor jac Lton.

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Speaker 8: Somebody brings some o view profriend to the Commissioner's green

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Speaker 8: roope Ridney X pick Michael Powell Junior. Well, there it is.

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Speaker 2: Why who I was wondering when the chaos was going

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Speaker 2: to start? Apparently now Ribey nine pick room for.

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Speaker 8: First track. The Minnesota Vikings moved up with the tech pick.

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Speaker 10: J gave A Carty, the.

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Speaker 14: Denver Bronco sac oh Nick quarterback. Six quarterbacks in the

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Speaker 14: first dozen kids, the luck Vegas Greater Brock Powers Titan

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Speaker 14: Grittey fifteenth things by a two book.

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Speaker 8: To Parson defensive player selected.

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Speaker 14: The Seattle Seahawks Delac Byron Murphy, Fucking Delac, Dallas Turner.

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Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions select Terry and Arnold.

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Speaker 11: Almo Manmo lot a first night records setting rap for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 8: That wraps up ninety one here from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Nine days until the NFL regular season begins.

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Speaker 2: They're oh so close to seeing some of those rookies playing.

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Speaker 1: Any real, live, regular season football game is welcome in

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Speaker 1: our Brian Balding or Baldy, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: about private equity, but I was told I'm not allowed

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Speaker 1: to do that.

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Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you about these rookies.

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Speaker 1: Who's one of these rookie players you've seen after the

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Speaker 1: preseason you're really excited to see playing now on Sundays, Well, Tom, not.

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Speaker 13: Just because this particular rookie, Graham Barton went to my

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Speaker 13: alma mad and Duke and was a first center drafted

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Speaker 13: in this year's draft by Tampa. But he's been an

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Speaker 13: excellent play and didn't start the first preseason game. He

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Speaker 13: started the last two. I've been going back and forth

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Speaker 13: with Jason light the general manager, like he has given

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Speaker 13: this offensive line a spark.

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Speaker 2: That man right there is going to benefit that running

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Speaker 2: back right there.

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Speaker 13: They have a chance of being a very good offensive

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Speaker 13: line because when your center position is strong, your guards

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Speaker 13: are going to be strong. Your protection is going to

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Speaker 13: be better. And so far, it looks like it's been

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Speaker 13: pretty easy for Graham Barton to make that adjustment from

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Speaker 13: Duke where he was a left tackle the last couple

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Speaker 13: of years to now the starting center for the Campa

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Speaker 13: Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable versatility too. Even if the Bucks do

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Speaker 3: need to move him at some point from center, they

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Speaker 3: know he can basically play all the positions. And you know,

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Speaker 3: this was actually I remember earlier than I thought he'd

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Speaker 3: be drafted, but like this was the spot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is a team that needs a baller at center,

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Speaker 3: and I know they certainly feel like they have one.

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Speaker 4: Baldi.

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Speaker 3: I will try to not focus on the logo on

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Speaker 3: your sweater. I'll just ask you who.

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Speaker 4: Else do you like?

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Speaker 2: Rookie?

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Speaker 4: There we go, what other rookies you like? And I'll

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Speaker 4: just lay out to you in your sweatshirt.

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Speaker 2: Well, I just were sensory.

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Speaker 13: I just did a Baldi's breakdown on the left tackle

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Speaker 13: of the Tennessee Titans. The rookie left tackle the Mammoth

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Speaker 13: JC Latham, and he's had an excellent preseason. He played

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Speaker 13: very well the other night. Look, he was the right

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Speaker 13: tackle at Alabama, they moved to the left tackle. Bill

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Speaker 13: Callahan is his coach. I think Bill is amongst the

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Speaker 13: two or three best offensive line coaches in this league.

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Speaker 13: He's paired right next to last year's number one pick,

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Speaker 13: Peter Skarnsky. This has a chance of being one of

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Speaker 13: the best left side offensive lines. And I want to

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Speaker 13: disparage anybody on the right side or Lloyd Kushamari, you know,

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Speaker 13: at center. But between Latham and Skeronsky, you see the

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Speaker 13: movement in the run game that is violent, violent movement

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Speaker 13: off the ball. I think they're going to be very

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Speaker 13: very good up front and that should benefit will Levis.

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Speaker 2: We'll see him week one against the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: Baldy, are any rookies who aren't offensive linemen that you

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Speaker 1: really like can get? Can you take me outside of

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Speaker 1: your world right here and give me somebody else you're I.

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Speaker 13: Know I could have gone all the linemen easily, Tom,

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Speaker 13: but I mean you got to go. Caleb Williams. I

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Speaker 13: mean I mentioned Tennessee and Chicago first week right there

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Speaker 13: at Soldier Field. But you know, Caleb, I mean, look,

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Speaker 13: just look at the statusy of ten or twenty for

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Speaker 13: one hundred and seventy yards in the preseason.

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Speaker 2: But I was talking to him.

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Speaker 13: There at the Hall of Fame game in Canton, Ohio.

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Speaker 13: But the guy just brings juice. He brings confidence. He

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Speaker 13: plays the game with confidence. He did a couple of

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Speaker 13: things in that last preseason eight that he played in

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Speaker 13: that they said he can't do. That we saw him

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Speaker 13: do with Oklahoma and at USC get outside the pocket,

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Speaker 13: extend plays, create plays, make little flips right like he

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Speaker 13: did to DeAndre Swift. We've seen a lot of talent

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Speaker 13: from him. And you know this throw right here is

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Speaker 13: just I mean, that's a lot of talent right here

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Speaker 13: to drop to Roma doonsday. So I think he's running

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Speaker 13: for first down there. I think he's got all the

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Speaker 13: skills to be very good, not eight games from now

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Speaker 13: or next year. I think he's got the skills necessary

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Speaker 13: to be good from week one in this Chicago Bear offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, Baldy, don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Later in the show, you got some of the duos

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Speaker 1: that you're most excited to see just nine days away

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Speaker 1: from regular season football. All right, coming up after this

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. We know they've got a lot of speed.

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Speaker 1: We know they've got some really good receivers, but the

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Speaker 1: depth is a little bit short right now, and we're

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Speaker 1: not going to be seeing that guy Odell Beckham Junior

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Speaker 1: in practice, much less a game for a little bit longer.

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Speaker 1: We'll explain next along with our camera boles on the inside.

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Speaker 4: Odell Beckham Junior.

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Speaker 3: There he is, of course, we know by now sign

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Speaker 3: with the Miami Dolphins too, great fanter As with every

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Speaker 3: single thing Odell Beckham Junior does.

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Speaker 4: He catches balls with one hand. He looks cool doing it.

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Speaker 4: He also has an absolute cannon for an arm. That

665
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Speaker 4: being said, does not seem.

666
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Speaker 3: Like he is going to see the field to start

667
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Speaker 3: the season from Miami Dolphins. Maybe not the greatest surprise

668
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Speaker 3: in the world, but that is his reality. I want

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Speaker 3: to get a little more into that and some other things.

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Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins wise. Very pleased to be joined by my

671
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Speaker 3: friend Cameron Wolf here on the Insider is dressed like

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Speaker 3: he's gonna go out to a boat in Mammy. Mike

673
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: looking cool, Mike a little cold. He's got the sweater.

674
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Speaker 3: What's up, cam Uh. I want to get a little

675
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Speaker 3: more from you on the Odell Beckham junior situation.

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Speaker 4: Was this a surprise? What do we expect? And tell

677
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Speaker 4: me what other Dolphins things come to your mind.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Ian Odell Beckham hasn't practiced since he signed with

679
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Speaker 9: the Dolphins in May, so it wasn't a huge surprise

680
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Speaker 9: for him not to have a big impact early in

681
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Speaker 9: the season. They kind of left it a little bit

682
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Speaker 9: open on whether he would start the year on pup.

683
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Speaker 9: He obviously does misses at least the first four games,

684
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Speaker 9: but this is a situation where he had an off

685
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Speaker 9: season procedure. They've expected him to miss some time this

686
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Speaker 9: spring and summer through workouts, and they've really just tried

687
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Speaker 9: to get him fully healthy.

688
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Speaker 4: I've seen him around the facility rehabbing.

689
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Speaker 9: Last week, he was doing sort of a half speed

690
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Speaker 9: run with trainers on the field, and so.

691
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Speaker 2: He's trying to get back.

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Speaker 9: I know he's dealt with a lot of injuries lately,

693
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Speaker 9: and there's a lot of jokes that come on social

694
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Speaker 9: media with that, but this is a guy that told

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Speaker 9: us a few months ago he wants to end his

696
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 9: storybook career right He obviously had the peak at the beginning,

697
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Speaker 9: the injuries in the middle, and he hopes to end

698
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Speaker 9: this right, so he wants to be back there out

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Speaker 9: on the field. They just made a decision that, hey,

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Speaker 9: we'd rather get him healthy for December and January, even

701
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Speaker 9: if he has to miss September. But the other side

702
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Speaker 9: of that is this Dolphins team is very thin at receivers.

703
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Speaker 9: They only kept four receivers on their initial fifty three

704
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 9: man roster and so next up behind are going to

705
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Speaker 9: be Braxton Burials and their rookie Maleik Washington. But one

706
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 9: thing to keep an eye on their running back Devine

707
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 9: eight Chan has been getting some reps at receiver in camp,

708
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Speaker 9: and I wouldn't be surprised if they play him a

709
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 9: decent amount out there to get him and Raheem mostered

710
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Speaker 9: on the field at the same time while they wait

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Speaker 9: for Odell to get back. And one other thing you

712
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 9: mentioned the other interactions with the Dolphins, they made a

713
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Speaker 9: decision on their backup quarterback this week, going with third

714
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Speaker 9: year Skyler Thompson over the more experienced Mike White. And

715
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Speaker 9: when I asked Mike McDaniel about that, he said that

716
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Speaker 9: last preseason game they had. There was a moment in

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Speaker 9: the second quarter where Skyler was leading his team. He

718
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Speaker 9: saw his teammates believe in him. He saw guy get

719
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Speaker 9: up off the bench and really want to watch him.

720
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Speaker 9: And he said, in adverse situations, if your backup gains

721
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Speaker 9: that much confidence from your team, that's what helps him.

722
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Speaker 9: He's a guy who's developed over these last couple of years,

723
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Speaker 9: and they believe he could step in for Tua if

724
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Speaker 9: the injury comes about.

725
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Speaker 3: It's really interesting, you know when coaches examine it and

726
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: look at and judge and evaluate quarterbacks. Obviously they're looking

727
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 3: at things like arm strength and athleticism and all the things.

728
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Speaker 3: But the sort of intangible leadership, like how well can

729
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 3: they galvanize guys? That's real and that was a really

730
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 3: cool part of the Dolphins quarterback situation.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's stay in the AFC East. Let's talk

732
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Speaker 4: a little bit about the Buffalo Bills.

733
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Speaker 3: They obviously had cut down day as well, and there

734
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: was some intriguing decisions they made.

735
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Speaker 4: Tell me what cuts your eye in Buffalo.

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Speaker 9: The first thing we'll see in their linebacker Matt Mullone

737
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 9: will be placed on injury reserve, designated to return, and

738
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Speaker 9: I think that's actually good news for Buffalo. He suffered

739
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 9: a torn biceps and practice and this devastating injury. They

740
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Speaker 9: spect him to miss most of the season, but the

741
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Speaker 9: fact that he's on designated return means there is hope

742
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Speaker 9: that he can get back in the latter stages of

743
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Speaker 9: the season, maybe December and January. So that's a selling

744
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 9: of hope for Buffalo. But there also was a very

745
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 9: cool story on a rough day for a lot of folks.

746
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Speaker 9: The Bills have a linebacker named Joe and Dreson they

747
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 9: call him Buffalo Joe because he's from Buffalo.

748
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Speaker 4: He went to the University of Buffalo.

749
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Speaker 2: He grew up a Bills fan. He made the Bills initial.

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Speaker 9: Fifty three man roster, and this is a guy who

751
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 9: had to get on the team by a rookie can't tryout.

752
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: This was not a draft pick. This was not typical

753
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: UDFA who gets a.

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Speaker 9: Lot of money. This is a guy who had to

755
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 9: get it out the mud as the ninetieth guy on

756
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Speaker 9: the roster. He earned it with his play. We're seeing

757
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 9: this Steelers preseason game. He had twelve tackles, two tackles

758
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Speaker 9: for loss. And when I talked to GM, Brandon Bean

759
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 9: and Buffalo and Kemp. He mentioned him as a guy

760
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 9: who stood out and so cool story for Buffalo Joe,

761
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Speaker 9: he is now a bill.

762
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Speaker 3: Gotta love to hear those stories on this I mean,

763
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: this day is filled so much with like, oh, this

764
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 3: guy got cut, this guy got caught. There's also guys

765
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: whose dreams literally came true. For Buffalo Joe, that is awesome.

766
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Speaker 3: Kim Wolf, thank you very much, always great hanging out

767
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 3: with you. Obviously, we will talk to you very soon.

768
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 3: And we got much more coming up on the Insiders, specifically.

769
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Speaker 4: Related to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: They got a couple of ballers in the secondary Reek

771
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 3: Wall and at one point looked like he was going

772
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: to be one of the better defensive backs in the NFL.

773
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Speaker 4: Is he heading there again?

774
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 12: Then?

775
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Speaker 4: Of course Devon Witherspoon just an absolute.

776
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: Star, I would say in the making for Seattle, Ken

777
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: Mike McDonald make.

778
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: Them even better. There's only one way to find out.

779
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: Keep watching the Insiders.

780
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb is back. He is very very rich, and

781
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: he's still can't afford a hole. Jersey think of that.

782
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: It's got to show off, show off that he's still

783
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: in shape. Right, make sure that everybody can tell his

784
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: contoured through the average, and they're expecting big things. Inspect

785
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: him out there in week one. This is first practice

786
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: of training camp. Mean, while Justin Simmons a little bit

787
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: of a late arrival before he ended up signing on

788
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons after a very good run in Denver,

789
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: he is a big piece of what they intend to

790
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: do on the defensive side of the ball in twenty

791
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Speaker 1: twenty four. Welcome back to the insiders, Tom Pilisero, Judy Batista,

792
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: welcoming in Baldy once again. Baldy, I know what a

793
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: big Justin Simmons fan you've been for a while. Now

794
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: he pairs with Jesse Bates in Atlanta. What's your excitement

795
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: level about what that duo can do?

796
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 13: Well, you just give your Raheem Morris or the defense

797
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 13: coordinator Jimmy Lake two safeties with is supreme intelligence, Okay,

798
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 13: unbelievable playmaking ability. I mean, the in combination those two

799
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 13: guys have fifty interceptions fifteens. Nobody's ever, no tandem of

800
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 13: safeties in this league is even close to fifty interceptions.

801
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 13: Now you start playing around with rotating safeties and all

802
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 13: the things you got to do I just know this.

803
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 13: If you make mistakes on the back end of your

804
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 13: defense or you tackle poorly, you give up touchdowns.

805
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: In his business.

806
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 13: With Jesse Bates back there and Justin Simmons, now, the

807
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 13: communication that they'll have, they're going to give up a

808
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 13: lot fewer touchdowns just because those two guys are back there.

809
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: And the way that they'll both will.

810
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 13: Be able to be utilized and how they play together

811
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 13: is going to be really interesting. Maybe they both tackle well,

812
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 13: they both cover a lot of ground, they both like

813
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 13: to rob the middle of the field, and they're both

814
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 13: I mean, they can explain the game as well as

815
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 13: anybody in this business can explain the game.

816
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: All right, Baldy, all the way.

817
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 6: On the other side of the country, there's also a

818
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 6: dB duo that's not that easy to say, d B

819
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 6: duo Seattle, that new coach Mike McDonald gets to work with.

820
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Speaker 6: What are you expecting from willing On Witherspoon.

821
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Speaker 13: Well, you know Mike McDonald last year obviously the defensive

822
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 13: coordinator of Baltimore the number one ranked defensive football fewest

823
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 13: points allowed, most sacks. They disguise their defense as well

824
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 13: as anybody in this business. And that Devin Witherspoon there,

825
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 13: he is right there. I mean, I think that he

826
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 13: could play the role that Kyle Hamilton played with Baltimore

827
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 13: last year, whether it's matching up or designated blitzer or

828
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 13: a guy that you know can can basically play the

829
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 13: rat on certain looks. You know he's a ferocious hitter.

830
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 13: And then Tariq Wollen. You know he had six interceptions

831
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 13: as a rookie. I know he ran somewhere Judy in

832
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 13: the four two's coming out of UTSA, and sometimes four

833
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 13: to two shows up on film and sometimes it doesn't.

834
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Speaker 13: I think when he breaks on the ball, it's about

835
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 13: his fearce of break where he is right there on

836
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 13: that ball. I think it's about as fears a break

837
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Speaker 13: as any back in this league. Right now, he needs

838
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 13: to regain his confidence. He lost it last year. He

839
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 13: was benched for a while, He missed some tackles, his

840
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 13: eyes are in the wrong place. I think a lot

841
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 13: of that is going to get cleared up because ultimately

842
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 13: his talent is going to win out. And I think

843
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 13: Mike McDonald, the way that he matches up his owns,

844
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 13: the way he sits on top of these routes, reads

845
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 13: these routes, I think he's going to benefit both players.

846
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Speaker 1: Nobody breaks it down better than Baldy. Nobody has more

847
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: fun on TV talking football than Baldy.

848
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: Nobody has more fun even off camera. Baldy doing a

849
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: little selfie session, worrying during the last commercial break.

850
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 13: Well, George Kittle just sent me some sunglasses. I had

851
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 13: to show him off for him, you know, like I'm

852
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 13: just trying to promote George a little bit.

853
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: To good luck, Baldy. We will talk to you again

854
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: very soon here. Okay, So some notable names on the

855
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: waiver wire coming up. Those claims need to be in

856
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: by noon tomorrow. Will somebody had Bailey ZAPPI will someone

857
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: ad Desmond Ritter will break all that.

858
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: Down and more next on the inside.

859
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: More roster moves on cutdown day, No surprise Vikings keeping TJ.

860
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: Hawkins in on the fisically unable to perform lists coming

861
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: off his torn ACL.

862
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: He's out for the first four.

863
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Games, so is Tyler Higbee, the Rams tight end who

864
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: tore his ACL in the playoff game Jan green Bay.

865
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Speaker 1: AJ Dillon placed on season ending injured reserve because of

866
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Speaker 1: a neck injury. Certainly some bad breaks right there for

867
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Speaker 1: aj Dillon Packers also released a couple of their young

868
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks today, just part of the long list of quarterbacks

869
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: who were released as part of the final roster cutdown. Judy,

870
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: we set a lot of teams us a lot of

871
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks last year. What jumped out of you from some

872
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: of those quarterback names we saw in the street today?

873
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Speaker 6: I have to think that a number of them are

874
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Speaker 6: going to get looks for just that reason. Last year

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 6: we saw teams go through so many quarterbacks, and somebody

876
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Speaker 6: like Bailey Zappi, who has played a bunch and had

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Speaker 6: some success, including in some very difficult circumstances in New England,

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Speaker 6: I have to think he's going to get a look

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Speaker 6: by some team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would say, for me, what's kind

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Speaker 4: of weird and knock on wood a little bit. We've

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Speaker 4: had so few injuries.

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Speaker 3: It feels like this preseason so many of those guys

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Speaker 3: I feel like would be and maybe should be on rosters.

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Speaker 3: But because a lot of teams are as healthy as

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Speaker 3: they've been, they're out there in the ether. Maybe by

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Speaker 3: the time we come back tomorrow some of these guys

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Speaker 3: will be gainfully employed.

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Speaker 2: No way that dusk is actually tomorrow.