1 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: Welcome one noll to the Hammer Territory Podcast. My name 2 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: is Sean Coleman. Hope, wherever you are and wherever you 3 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: are listening, you are having a great start to your week. 4 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: It is a wonderful time on the sports calendar. Of course, 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: March Madness is here. Hope for those in the Hammer 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: Territory Attorney bracket. Hope those who are fans of various 7 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: teams in the NCAA Tournament. If your team's still alive, congratulations, 8 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: If they're not, congrats on a great season. Hope your 9 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: bracket is not too busted so far. But more importantly, 10 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to this podcast, Steven Talbert, We've been 11 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: talking about waiting for this moment for nearly five and 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: a half months. We're going to start the season where 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: last season ended for the Braves. Seventy two hours from now, 14 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: the Braves will have completed their first game of the season. 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: And I am so excited that it's here and excited 16 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 1: to talk Braves baseball with you for another season. 17 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: Sir. Yeah, what's up, buddy. 18 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the absolute best time of year. I 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: mean just absolute best time of year. The you know, 20 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: tournament is in full full Go now, you know, we're 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: down of the Sweet sixteen. On Thursday, all four of 22 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: our teams are still in which is kind of awesome. 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 3: But like you said, more importantly for this podcast, opening Day, 24 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: opening Day is Thursday. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: It's to me it's the opening day. 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 3: I know, technically the season already started with the Cubs 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: and the Dodgers. I don't count that. You know, opening 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 3: Day deserves more respect than a five am game on 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: a Tuesday morning. Thursday is opening Day when all the 30 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: teams play. Usually they do like a there's a game 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: at noon, there's a game at one, there's a game 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: at two. You can watch baseball all day long. I 33 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: don't know that. I'm assuming they're doing the same thing 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: this year. 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: I know MLBN E or not really friends anymore. So 37 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. But yeah, I can't wait. I'm 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: so excited. It was a long offseason. I mean, we 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: did our best to cover damn near six months worth 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: of the worth of airtime with not much to talk about. 41 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: The Braves didn't do us a lot of favors, basically 42 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: making one big move this offseason, so we had a 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: lot of we had a lot of time. We had 44 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: to cover, and you know, we were able to do it. 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: But now we don't have to worry about it. Now 46 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: we got games, Now, we got walk offs. 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: Now we got you. 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: Know, big performances, we got injuries, we got you know, 49 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: league wide stuff. We were gonna have content out the 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: eyeballs and I just can't wait. 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: All kicks off on Thursday. 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: I'm just it's an incredible time of year. 53 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: It absolutely is, and we're gonna have you covered all 55 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: week long previews, reviews, looking at matchups, breakdowns, all this 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: different stuff. This is your one stop shop when it 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: comes to covering all things Brave, especially with the season 58 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: in told. But as you mentioned, Steven, you know, we 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: spent the past five and a half months talking about 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: the lack of moves, lack of moves, moves, and then 61 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: over the past week we've basically had eighty percent of 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: our offseason moves occur, and of course one of the 63 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: more notable ones occurred. We basically had a notable move 64 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: that seems like every day over the past week, but 65 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: yesterday was one that was definitely interesting. I don't think 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: it was all that surprising if you've been following Spring training, 67 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: you know pretty closely throughout the past month and a half. 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: Of course, what I'm speaking of is Ian Anderson traded 69 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: from the Braves to Lumbehold, Surprise, surprise, ear the Angels 70 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: for left hander Jose Suarez. Now, of course, Ian Anderson, 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: you know that, being a name that has been you know, 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: very you know, familiar to Braves fan for years. You 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: look at him being traded and you're like, he was 74 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: traded for another struggling pitcher. I never would have thought that, 75 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: But when you really look at kind of the struggles 76 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Ian Anderson has had over the past few years, it 77 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: should not come as a surprise. Basically, the simple truth 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: is this, Ian Anderson was traded before he was going 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to be designated for assignment. At the end of the day, 80 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: him being traded in a trade like this truly suggested 81 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: that his time in Atlanta was going to come to 82 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: an end one way or another. 83 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: It wasn't the end that. 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Anybody had really hoped for with all the struggles that 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: he's had over the past couple of years. Stevens, but 86 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: not only have we seen Alex and Thoppols do this 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: with pitchers before who had been in the Brays organization 88 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: for a while who just could not get to the 89 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: same level of contribution. But it just it makes sense. 90 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: With Ian Anderson being out of options, this was a 91 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: move that made sinse even if it was not the 92 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: best ending to what have been a pretty notable career 93 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean hopefully nobody was too surprised. 95 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about this as a possibility for 96 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 3: i mean two months now. And listen the way Ian 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: pitched in the spring in spring training, with so many walks, 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: so few strikeouts, it just was not inspiring any confidence 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: from anybody that he could he could be a starting 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: pitcher on a major league staff or even a relief 101 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 3: a reliever on a major league staff. And he didn't 102 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: have any options. And you know, that's a lot of it. 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: You know, when you no longer have the ability to 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: be sent down to Gwinnette, you lose a lot of 105 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: value unless you've secured a roster spot. And Ian had 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: done nothing to secure. 107 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: A roster spot. 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean this was basically a DFA. 109 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: I mean, the Angels were gonna DFA Suarez, the Braids 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: were gonna DFA Anderson. Basically they got together and said Hey, 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: instead of DFA and these two guys, let's just go 112 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: and trade for him. You know, it's it's kind of 113 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: the classic change of scenery. They weren't gonna make the team. 114 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: We had no other option but to trade him or DFA, 115 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: and so I know, I saw Brads fans who were 116 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: upset about the return because Suarez is not good. I'm 117 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: not gonna blow smoke. You know, Suarez is not good. 118 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 3: He was probably gonna be DFA by the Angels, who 119 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: are not good. He's had like a six era the 120 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: last two years out of their bullpen. 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: He's not good. 122 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: But Ian Anderson is not good either, So like that's 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: kind of what you get when you trade a guy 124 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: like that. So you know, the Braves will probably hold 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: on the sore as we'll see. I mean, they can 126 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: make another move tomorrow. By the time you're listening to this, 127 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: they can make another move. But there's a good chance 128 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: for us. It is probably gonna be the long man 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: in the bullpen until Kimberl is ready. It might only 130 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 3: be like a week. So I don't think this is 131 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: a guy that's going to be around the Braves, you know, 132 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: long term or anything. 133 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 2: But it was just time. 134 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: It was just like we talked about it so much 135 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: like Ian just did not look good. He did not 136 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: look like a major league pitcher. We said, there's a 137 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 3: very good chance they could either DFA m or trade him. 138 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 3: You know, they basically kind of did a combination of 139 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: the two where they basically did a DFA trade where they, 140 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, two guys who were going to get DFA 141 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: get trade for each other. 142 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: So, you know, it sucks. 143 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: Ian was obviously a massive part of the World Series run. 144 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: It was a massive part of the World Series itself. 145 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: You know, I was at the one World Series game 146 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: I went to that year was the game that Ian 147 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: Anderson pitched. It was the first game in Atlanta. He 148 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: pitched Game three, and I was at that game, and 149 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: I'll never forget. It's literally a memory of a lifetime 150 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: for me. And so I'll always appreciate what Ian did here. 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: But sentiment aside, you had to look at it objectively 152 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: about what he was going to be able to contribute 153 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: to the twenty twenty five team, and it just wasn't enough. 154 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: It wasn't enough to justify a twenty six man roster spot. 155 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: It probably wasn't enough to justify a forty man roster 156 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: spot to be honest, so. 157 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: I get it. 158 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: I know people were upset about him being treated at 159 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: all or about the return, but I totally get it. It 160 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: was not a surprise to me at all. 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Ian Anderson's time in Atlanta again ended 186 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 7: in disappointment right injury, you know, due to a lack 187 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 7: of control, due to you know, not not being able 188 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 7: to develop his arsenal stuff around what once was a very. 189 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: Good change up. 190 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: But even though you know, it was multiple years of 191 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: disappointment in his time in Atlanta, Stephen, as you pointed out, 192 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would question he had a successful 193 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: time in Atlanta, especially when it came to you know, 194 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: he never was really able to put it together as 195 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: being you know, a top tier pitcher like you know 196 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: a few other braves have shown that they could do 197 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: coming out of the farm system, but the numbers didn't 198 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: lie when it came to his historical production at a 199 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: young age in the playoffs, and to your point again, 200 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: he played a critical significant role in helping us deliver 201 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: a world series to it and helping the braisliveral world 202 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: series to Atlanta. So I think that that's what needs 203 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: to you know, it's one of those two truth scenarios. 204 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: The one truth is his overall time in Atlanta was successful. 205 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,359 Speaker 1: When he was healthy, when he was effective, he contributed, 206 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and he contributed on the big stage. It's just unfortunately 207 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: it had been too long since that time had occurred. 208 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: He was nowhere near the same picture. Lack of control, 209 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: lack of velocity, just overall lack of reliable stuff during 210 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: spring training, to be honest, even last year coming back 211 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: from his surgery, it just was not there anymore for 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Ian Anderson. So the time was right for the Braves 213 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: to move on. But the other thing that stands out 214 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: to me Stephen, and we talked about this, you know 215 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: at Lenk before the podcast, is that we talk about 216 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: this offseason, and you know, two storylines that come to 217 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: play are the fact that you know, hey, the lack 218 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: of overall notable moves that you know didn't occur until 219 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, the past week, and even at that point 220 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: there have not really been significant moves. But the other 221 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: thing is is that it's been an end of an 222 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: era in multiple perspectives. So many long term Braves have 223 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: left the organization. You know, not just in term of 224 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: the Braves that contributed to the twenty twenty one World Series, 225 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: but also some Braves that at one time were part 226 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: of a historical group of pitching prospects. But in time, 227 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: especially here recently, we've seen Mike Soroka, We've seen Kyle Wright, 228 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: we've seen Jared Schuster, now we've seen Ian Anderson, among 229 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: others who have departed the organization. When I talk about 230 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: end of an era, when you go back over the 231 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: past decade and you look at how many top flight 232 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: prospects in terms of arms the Braves had, and then 233 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: you look at just how few of them became clear 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: long term contributors for the Braves, and also the fact 235 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: that the Braves really didn't get anything of value via 236 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: trade or what have you from those players, it is 237 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: kind it's really eye opening how much success the Braves 238 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: have had despite the fact they've gotten so little from 239 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: what once again was a historical proper pitching prospects. 240 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 241 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: So, like if you remember, and most people remember, you know, 242 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen, the Braves had a disappointing year. They 243 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: fired Frank Wren and they brought in couple Ela John Coppola, 244 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 3: John Hart to run the organization, and those guys immediately started. 245 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: To rebuild, right. 246 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: They traded everybody. They traded Hayward, they traded you know, 247 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: justin Upton, they traded bj Upton, they traded Gaddis, they 248 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: traded Kimberl, they traded Angleton. They basically traded everybody but 249 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman. And what they brought back mostly was pitching prospects, 250 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: right they I mean, you remember the names. Everybody remembers 251 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: the names Soroka, you know, Kyle Right, Ian Anderson, you know, 252 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: took you to so Luis Garza, Sean Nuko and Mike 253 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 3: Foltonevich like just a million of them, Kolby Allard, you know, 254 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 3: Joey Wentz, you know, Kyle Mueller, you could keep going, 255 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: Tuki Tussan. I mean, there was so many of them, 256 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: and that was kind of the basis that the Braves 257 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 3: were gonna build their next great you know, their next 258 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: great run off of was you know, trying to hit 259 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 3: on some of these pitching prospects. And it is funny 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 3: looking back now that really Max Fried is the only 261 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: one that really hit like and stayed like. You know, 262 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: Soroka had one good year in twenty nineteen, Kyl Wright 263 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: had one good year. Ian Anderson had like a year 264 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 3: and a half of being solid, But like Max Freed 265 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 3: was the only one that was consistently good. Consistently an 266 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: Ace made it all the way to free agency, got 267 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: a two hundred million ar like, he was objectively successful. 268 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: But he's kind of the only one. And like you said, 269 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: the Braves don't have a lot to show for any 270 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: of those guys as we sit here today. To be honest, 271 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: most of their success has actually been built on the 272 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: offensive side of the ball, know by you know, getting Acuna, 273 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: by getting Ozzie, drafting, Austin Riley, you know, Olsen, Michael Harris. 274 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: Like if you look at what. 275 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: This new regime has done, it's been it's been built 276 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: more on offense and then building the pitching staff out 277 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: of out of veterans, you know, Chris Slee, Ronaldo Lopez, 278 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: Charlie Morton. 279 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: Stuff like that. 280 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: So it is funny, it is I mean, it is 281 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 3: that it's it's an end of an era. You know, 282 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 3: we had all these years of all these pitching prospects, 283 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: and now, you know, after Ian Anderson and Max Free 284 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: both left this offseason, we don't have any more. We 285 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: don't have any more of those guys that are left 286 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: now the Braves have still have pitching prospects, but all 287 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: guys that were drafted by the current regime. 288 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: So it is the end of air. It's kind of sad. 289 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: It was a fun time, even though the Braves sucked 290 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: during the rebuild, like being able to follow all the 291 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: pitching prospects, that's kind of what we all did. And so, yeah, 292 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 3: you're right, it is the indivent air. It's it's it's 293 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: a little sad to see it go. But you know, 294 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: the Braves have a new a new class of young players, 295 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: a new corps of you know, veteran players, and they're 296 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: still really good. And that's really kind of all you 297 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: can ask for. 298 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and and and at the end of the day, 299 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: you know, that's the sign of a good organization. If 300 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, you put so many you put so many 301 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: eggs in one basket that you wind up dropping that basket. 302 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: And nothing really comes out of it. You find another 303 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: way to cook the omelet of success. 304 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: Man. 305 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: Man, that was a good analogy. I've got. 306 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: You pulled that on. Yeah, there's no way that, no way. 307 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: You plan that pull pulled that one right off the skillet, 308 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: skillet and served it successfully with the side of okay AnyWho. 309 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: The other thing though, that I think is notable from yesterday, Steven, 310 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: is that you know, we kind of we got a 311 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: turner one eighty. We talk about you know, a pitcher 312 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: who has been with the Braves for you know, since 313 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: the star of his career for nearly a decade, has 314 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: had good law success with the Braves on the biggest 315 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: stage to going back to a player who's now forty 316 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: one years old, is in his seventh stint with the Braves, 317 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: also won a World Series. But I do think that 318 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: it is no that the Braves once again welcomed, welcomed 319 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: uncle Jesse. Jesse Chobbs is back with the organization, and Steven, 320 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts in general, not necessarily 321 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: breaking down what Jesse chobb Is is going to bring me. 322 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: If you follow the Braves for years, you know what 323 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: Jesse chobb Is brings But the point that I'm getting 324 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: at is is that what do you think of these 325 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: depth move for the Braves? Are you a fan of 326 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: the fact that when you look at James McCann, when 327 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: you look at Craig Kimber, when you look at Jesse 328 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: chabb As, Alex Radugo, so on and so forth, the 329 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: Braves are going to the well of trying to get 330 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: veterans who will come in and potentially rekindle some of 331 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: their value instead of potentially going out and getting higher 332 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: upside type players per depth that they may be able 333 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: to extract unforeseen value from. What do you think about 334 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the Braves overall philosophy and an off season when we 335 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: were begging for moves. They've made four or five editions 336 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: over the past week. But again we're talking about veterans 337 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: whose peaks are you know, they're not necessarily past their 338 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: prime in terms go their best days are behind them 339 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: as of right now. What do you think about the 340 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Braves to go on that route to add depth in 341 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: order to potentially get some pieces that, you know, if 342 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: injuries occur, could see significant time in Atlanta. 343 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so depth is never bad. It's not like no 344 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 3: one's ever said man we've got so much depth. I 345 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: wish they'd stopped making move Like no one says that right. 346 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: Depth is never bad. 347 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: Now, if you ask me, would you rather go get 348 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: high end talent or go get a bunch of older 349 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: veterans and hope you hit lightning in a bottle, I 350 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: would always rather have the talent. Like I said this 351 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: on our last show, I think you know, I'll take 352 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: Tanner Scott over all these guys. But in lieu of that, 353 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: you know it is at least the Braves are doing this. Like, yes, 354 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: I wanted them, and we said it all off season. 355 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: I wanted them to go add I thought they needed 356 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: another starter, and I thought they needed another reliever. And 357 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't I don't mean like a minor league signing. 358 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 3: I meant like a legitimate, like free agent signing high 359 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: level pitchers. 360 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: And they didn't do that. 361 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: They went kind of the other way where they just 362 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: signed this army of minor league guys and older guys 363 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: and Hector Nerris and Craig Kimberrel and you know, Dela 364 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: Santos and Buck Farmer and Jake Diekman and the list 365 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: goes on and on and on and just trying to 366 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: hit on a couple of them, and so you know, 367 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: I've said this before, the proof will be in the 368 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: pudding about how good of an idea this was and 369 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: how well it was executed. I'm still worried about the bullpen. 370 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 3: And that's kind of the other way you can look 371 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 3: at these moves is depth is always good, but there 372 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: is another side that says pretty clearly they're not overly 373 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: thrilled with the construction of their especially their bullpen, like 374 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: they keep tinkering with it. They keep adding these signings, 375 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: Like I think the Braves got to the end of 376 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: camp and we're like, we probably need more. 377 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: And of course all of us were at that spot three. 378 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: Months ago, and so it's a little worrisome that you're 379 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: still tinkering with your bullpen this late, and you know 380 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 3: you're probably gonna have three or four minor league signing 381 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: guys in your bullpen at some point. Again, kind of worrying, 382 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: but they could be awesome, and the brain it might 383 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: not matter at all. So it's kind of it is 384 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: kind of a I see. 385 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: It both ways. 386 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: Depth is good, but it's not great that the Braves 387 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 3: are tinkering like this this late in the offseason. And still, 388 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 3: you know, Snit talked about the other day like there's 389 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: still two or three spots, like they're still talking about 390 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't actually love that like I would. 391 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: We talked about it before, like you'd rather have more 392 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: answers than questions. I still think the Braids have a 393 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 3: lot of questions at some key spots. It might not matter. 394 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: They might be so good at the top end of 395 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: the roster it doesn't matter. 396 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: But I see it both ways. 397 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: Depth is good, but they're clearly still tinkering with the 398 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: roster because they don't love where the roster sits at 399 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: the moment. 400 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's that's what you That's always what you 401 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: look to see when it comes to you know, a member, 402 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: a member basically a general manager like Alexanthopolis, who consistently 403 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: is someone who you know is looking to tinker. He's 404 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: that master on the margins. He's always looking to improve. 405 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: And this could be a theme that we see for 406 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: this season is that there could be if the moves 407 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: that we thought were gonna happen, if the level of 408 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: moves that we thought were going to happen in the 409 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: off season did not occur, could we see a bit 410 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: more active approach when it comes to the season. But 411 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: speaking of that, Speaking of that, if you listen to 412 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: yesterday's podcast, both Brad and Scott gave their bold predictions 413 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: for any members of the Braves going into the two 414 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty five season. Well, we're gonna do our 415 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Me and Steven are gonna do. 416 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 4: Our own spin on that. 417 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: It is Sean and Stevens Hot Lanta Hot Takes. Now, 418 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm showing my age. Hot Lanta 419 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: may have gone out of the window when I was 420 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: back in high school back in twenty eighteen. I'm lying 421 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: through my teeth right now. My point is is this 422 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: is hot Takes for Hot Lanta. Stephen, you're shaking your 423 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: head just because. 424 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: You'll get you'll get run over by somebody in Atlanta. 425 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: If you ever say Hotlanta in Atlanta, just let you know, 426 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: don't say that in the in the city limits. 427 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: They hate it. The locals do not like it. 428 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: And also and also it sounds like you're an old man. 429 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: So that's another reason I'm approaching that. So I'm not 430 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: in the Atlanta city limits, so hot Takes not from 431 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: Hotlanta Hot Takes. Concerning the Atlanta Braves Steven three hot 432 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: takes from each of us. I will give you the floors, sir. 433 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: When it comes to the twenty twenty five Atlanta Braves, 434 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: what is your first hot take? 435 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know this is I don't know if 436 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: this is considered a positive or negative. It could be 437 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: spun as either. I think Aaron Bummer will be the 438 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: best reliever on the team this year, and I both mean. 439 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: I think Aaron Bummer is going to elevate his game 440 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 3: to a level where he is an elite reliever, one 441 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 3: of the best relievers in baseball. But I also think 442 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: Rossio Iglesias is probably gonna regress a little bit. You know, 443 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 3: I love Iglesias. He's been unbelievable since he came over, 444 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: but he's got some troubling peripherals. The last couple of years, 445 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: his strikeout rate has really vomitted is too strong a word, 446 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: but it's it's come down a lot pretty consistently. The 447 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 3: last couple of years. He kind of outperformed his peripheral 448 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: or yeah, he outperformed his peripherals last year. I just 449 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,239 Speaker 3: could see a scenario where he's not as good. And 450 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 3: I think Aaron Bummer is really good, and I you know, 451 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: we spent all year trying to convince people Aaron Bummer 452 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: was good last year even though opponents were running like 453 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 3: a four hundred babbit against him. 454 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: You know, he did not have the greatest. 455 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: Bat at ball lock last year. I think he's awesome. 456 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: I think when we get to the end of the 457 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five we will look back and say the 458 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: best reliever on the team, because I think if you 459 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: asked everybody today who the best reliever on the team, 460 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 3: I think everybody would say Rossie oglaci Is. I do 461 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 3: not think that's going to be the case. I think 462 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 3: Aaron Bummer is going to be the best reliever on 463 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five Braves. 464 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: If that works out, that will definitely be a great development, 465 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: especially for a bullpen that needs all the good developments 466 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: that we can see it happen. My hot take, my 467 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: first hot take for Atlanta will be that this team 468 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: will have a top five season in franchise history when 469 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: it comes to hitting home runs. What I mean by 470 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: that is this, I feel they're going to bounce back. 471 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: I don't feel they're going to come close to three 472 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: hundred and seven home runs like we saw in twenty 473 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: twenty three. But I do feel that they can be 474 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: to the point to where last year they finished fourth 475 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: in baseball with two hundred and thirteen home runs, to 476 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: be top five in franchise history. That would be two 477 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five home runs from this team. I 478 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: feel that health is going to be a little bit 479 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: more on their side. I feel that some players are 480 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: going to bounce back a bit and be available for 481 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: the entire season. I predict that the Braves are going 482 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: to hit two hundred and forty plus home runs that 483 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: not only would likely put them top three in Major 484 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: League Baseball in home runs, but that allow for them 485 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: to have a top five season in franchise history four 486 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: home runs as well. Don't think they're gonna get back 487 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: to where they were in twenty twenty three. Think they'll 488 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: get back to producing the long ball enough to where 489 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: there'll be a top, top tier offense once again. 490 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. I could see that. Would you say, 491 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: two two hundred and forty. 492 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: Home runs forty? 493 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 494 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Last year, the LA Dodgers finished third in the majors. 495 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: The LA Dodgers were third, the Atlanta Breys were fourth. 496 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: LA had two hundred and thirty three home runs. 497 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 4: Atlanta had two hundred and thirteen. 498 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: I think that Atlanta can get to thirty two forty. 499 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: I'll go with two forty, kay, I like that all right. 500 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 3: My next one is I think this is the last 501 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: season that we're going to automatically assume Ronald Lacuna Junior 502 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: is the leadoff man. And I know that's that's spicy 503 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: for a lot of people, but I think Drugs and 504 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: Profile is gonna do such a good job. I think 505 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 3: I think Profar is running like a four to ten 506 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 3: on base percentage this spring. I think he's gonna love 507 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: hitting in it. I think he's the absolute perfect hitter 508 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 3: for this lineup. I think he's gonna do such an 509 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: amazing job at leading off, and I think Ronald's gonna 510 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: have to change his game a bit when it comes 511 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: to the stolen bases that I think we're gonna eventually 512 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: get to the point where Ronald being the number two 513 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: hitter makes more sense than Ronald being the leadoff hitter. 514 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: I could be wrong, and lineup construction doesn't matter a 515 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: lot at all, but I could see a world where 516 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: this is the lie because everybody just assumes when Ronald 517 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 3: comes back, he's gonna be the leadoff hitter, and Profar 518 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: will probably. 519 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: Drop down to number two. 520 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 3: I actually think I might prefer the alternative to that, 521 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: where Profar stays at one and Ronald goes to two. 522 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: So and I think we might get to that. So 523 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: it's probably not gonna happen, but that's why these are 524 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 3: hot takes. It's things that probably aren't gonna happen that 525 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm predicting. So I think we'll get to the point, 526 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 3: either this season or in the offseason where it's no 527 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 3: longer assumed that Ronald Kuna Junior is gonna be the 528 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: leadoff for this team because Jerosen Profar does so well 529 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: in that role. 530 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: My second hot take is that I feel that the 531 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Braves are going to trade one of their top seven 532 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: pitching prospects. Now, I'm not going to sit here and 533 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: act like I'm a prospect guy, but I will say 534 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: that the Braves will trade one of their top seven 535 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: pitching prospects for a notable major league addition to the 536 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: pitching staff, whether that's the bullpen, whether that's the starting rotation. 537 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: You hope that it's certainly not because of injury. You 538 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: hope that it's to bolster what turns out to be 539 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: a surprising, once again good staff overall. But I feel 540 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: that Alexanthopolis does have a move under it. 541 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: It. 542 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: It does have the ability to pull off a move. 543 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: And maybe it's a JR. 544 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: Ritchie, you know, you could it be a Waldrop possibly, 545 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, you could see a variety of different arms. 546 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: I feel the Braves are going to trade one of 547 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: their top arm prospects for a reliable arm option, hopefully 548 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: they can control for multiple years. And the other thing is, 549 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that it could take place a bit earlier 550 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: in the season than you made think. 551 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: Now, I'm not. 552 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: Speaking from any inside knowledge or anything like that. That's 553 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: the reason these are hot takes, But I think that 554 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: the Braves are going to trade a top pitching prospect 555 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: for a reliable addition to this pitching staff at some 556 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: point this season. 557 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's I think that's likely at this 558 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I agree with that. 559 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: I think it's a good one. 560 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: All right, My last one, and it's kind of in 561 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: the same vein as the one I just had. But 562 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: I think this is the last season where Spencer Swellenbach 563 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 3: is not the consensus opening day starter. Chrisale's going to 564 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 3: be the opening day starter this year because he won 565 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 3: the cy Young last year. 566 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 2: But listen, Chris. 567 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: Sale's thirty six, thirty seven years old. I think this 568 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: is the last year where Spencer swallow Back is not 569 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: just That's how high I am on Spencer swallow Back. 570 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 3: I think by next year he's going to be the 571 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 3: opening day starter. It might be the opening day starter 572 00:26:58,840 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: for a long time. 573 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 2: You know. 574 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 3: I know Scott had the prediction that he was gonna 575 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: finish I think top three in the cy Young. I 576 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: could see, I could see him winning it. I mean, 577 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: I am that high on this guy. He makes every 578 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: part of the game looks so easy. He gets so 579 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 3: many swings and misses. I think he's just gonna have. 580 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: An unbelievable year. 581 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: And if Sale has any sort of injury stuff or 582 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: or backs up at all in performance, it's not just 583 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 3: gonna be automatic when we get to next year that 584 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: that Sale is gonna be the opening starter. Now, Strider 585 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: could have a lot to say about that, of course, 586 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 3: and that might be a conversation we have where Spencer, 587 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 3: Strider and Swallenbach are both in that conversation. And if 588 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: it doesn't happen, and I think it'll be because of Strider, 589 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 3: but I could see an absolutely see a world where 590 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 3: starting next year, Spencer swallow Back is just the opening 591 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: day starter for the He's just the best, considered the 592 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: best pitcher on the team. And you know it's it's 593 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 3: not likely. Again, this is a hot take. It's not 594 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: likely to happen, but I think is a very in 595 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: my personal opinion, I think there's a very good chance 596 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: it happens. I think Spincer Swallenbach is that good and 597 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 3: I think he will starting in twenty twenty. 598 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: Six being a very. 599 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: Real conversation as the opening day starter in the ace 600 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: of the staff. 601 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 4: My final bold prediction. 602 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: Five plus all Stars, two position starters. Michael Harris the 603 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: second is the National League starting center fielder in the 604 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: All Star Game, and it's because he'll be in the 605 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 1: midst of a top ten MVP season. Yeah, just look 606 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: at it. It should be written in the stars. He's 607 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: the most He's there's a reason why people say he's 608 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: the most obvious breakout candidate, probably the most one of 609 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: the most obvious breakout candidates in baseball. You got the 610 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: All Star Game happening in Atlanta, homegrown talent, wonderful connection 611 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: with the fans. 612 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: The Braves need it. The bread. 613 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: If there's a time to happen, the Braves need it. 614 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: Michael Harris, the second starting centerfielder for the National League 615 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: in the All Star Game. Top ten MVP candidate. 616 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I almost that was almost one of mine was 617 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: just Michael Harris is gonna win MVP. The problem is 618 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: Shoehetani exist and as long as that guy exists, picking 619 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 3: anybody else to be MVP is feels like nonsense. But 620 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: I like, I mean, you and I have talked about 621 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: Michael Harris for a couple of years now, where we like, 622 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, depending on how a Kunya comes back from 623 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: these knee injuries, like Michael Harris just might be the 624 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: most talented player on the team, And like that's very real. 625 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 3: His defensive ceiling is so high. He doesn't have to 626 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: be elite offensively to be an MVP candidate. He just 627 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: has to be good, you know. He just has to 628 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: run like a three fifty on base percentage basically, and 629 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: he's gonna get MVP votes. 630 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, I like that. I could see that. 631 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 4: So then so then what did you give your third Yeah? 632 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: I gave three I gave. 633 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: I gave the relievers, I gave the uh uh yes 634 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: lead off and the opening day starter. 635 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, my bad. I was like. 636 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 1: Yet, but yeah, those are our three hot takes for 637 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Hot Lanta. Whether or not you use that anymore in 638 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: terms of your lexicon, I don't care Hotland. 639 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 4: It's fine. And you know, back in my era, that's 640 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 4: that's how we did things. 641 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: What era was that exactly, just what era was the 642 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: early twenty twenties. 643 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: Ok, yeah, that's sounds true. 644 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: But the thing about it is this is whether or 645 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: not you still consider Hot Lanta you know, to be 646 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: in you know of today. The point is is that 647 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: baseball is back. There's so many great things to talk about, 648 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: and we are going to continue to talk about them 649 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: in detail, giving you the latest analysis as well as 650 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: opinions that matter when it comes to the Brave Stephen, 651 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: do you have anything else? As we wrap up this 652 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: edition to the Hammer Territory Podcast, No. 653 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: Sean and I I think are doing a podcast on 654 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 3: Wednesday before the season starts, So we'll do our you know, 655 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: predictions for what's going to happen, you know, division, all 656 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: that stuff. 657 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: We'll save that for Wednesday. 658 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 3: But if you're not subscribed again, it's a great time 659 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,959 Speaker 3: to do it. Obviously, we've been, you know, doing this 660 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: all off season, and we did it all last season, 661 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: but this season is literally kicking off in like forty 662 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: eight hours, so we appreciate all the fans listen. The 663 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: downloads we've been getting lately have been unbelievable. Really all 664 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: off season, our numbers have just been unbelievable. I know 665 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: fans wi't care about numbers, but we just want to 666 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: give a big shout out to the fans. It's been 667 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: really awesome and we just we're so excited. I mean, 668 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: the season is gonna be so much fun, and we 669 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 3: hope you come along. We hope you subscribe, you know, Apple, Spotify, Regulus, 670 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: to podcast. We appreciate all the support and it's gonna 671 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: be a fun season and we appreciate it. 672 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 4: If you subscribe, I'll retire Hotlanta, I won't use it anymore. 673 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that needs to happen. 674 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: That's a lot. I'm gonna work it in every episode 675 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 4: this season. 676 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: All kidding aside. Can't thank you enough for listening to us. 677 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: We appreciate the support, especially going through an off season 678 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: that was let's be honest lacked a bit of the 679 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: pizazz that we had. 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