1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: All right, here we go. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty Cody five 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: fifty and the chicks block the college football world stunner. 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, he's stumbled, the mumble, the lateral turn, 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: the counter on the inside. Don't you believe that I 6 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: came off the field the nights by. 7 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 3: It's not the size of the dog in the fight. 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: It's the size of the fight in the dog. 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: Welcome to Big Bets on Campus Sources Edition, my co 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: host the award winning news Breaking Action Network's own Brett McMurphy. 11 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: First reported by our own Brett McMurphy. 12 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: Brett McMurphy is source is. 13 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: I'm actually network senior writer Colin Wilson, a guy that 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: took Tennessee and wasn't smart enough to take the team 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 2: total at seventeen. 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: Right. 17 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: You took it, it pushed, it pushed. I feel like 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: Tennessee should have scored a lot more. But I think 19 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: that game shows the dominance of Georgia because they looked 20 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: as if they weren't prepared the first two or three jives, 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: and then Kirby and his staff made changes and it 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: was a blowout. Ever since then, I think it just 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: shows the level of this Georgia team and how tough 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: it's going to be for anyone to beat him. 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, Tennessee should have got over that seventeen first or 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 3: second play of the game. They had a guy runner 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: wheel rout that was a touchdown. He overthrew him by 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: a yard or two, and then they got down in 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: the red zone, kept trying to score touchdowns instead of 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: just kicking field gold. So but yeah, I mean, george 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: is the number one team. That's that's no big surprise. 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: But they're not unbeatable. I mean, it's going to be 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 3: fascinating when they play Alabama in Atlanta. That will be 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: a quasi national championship game, although they could actually meet 35 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: again in the College Football Playoff. But it was good 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: to actually see somebody that they could throw the ball. 37 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: You and Stucky talked about that on Saturday. This is 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: the best offense that Georgia has faced. They looked really good. 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Though. 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 3: I don't think they're unbeatable, but they do still look 41 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: easily like the nation's number one team. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: We've had just these amazing offensive seasons from LSU and 43 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: Alabama in the last two years, and now we've got 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: this I wish this dominant defense was around for one 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 2: of those two teams in the past, we would have 46 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: had a real game of the century. 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: Bro. There's a ton of discuss. Last week we came 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: on this show. 49 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: I think we spent ninety percent of our time talking 50 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: about coaching moves. That hasn't changed. The coaching carousel has 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: gone from about a four seat sedan to the size 52 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: of a school bus in the last two weeks. Let's 53 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: start off with Florida International. Listen, there are firings. There 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: are people that quit. Tracy Clay's walking out of Minnesota 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: and say I won't be freezing my ass off up here. 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: There's ways that coaches depart. But Butch Davis saying that 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: there's a sabotage, no money for the program, no money 58 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: for recruiting. This feels like a relationship that went sour 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: and somebody's like, listen, my partner has been cheating on 60 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: me all these years. 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: I just never said anything about it. But I mean, they're. 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Intentionally throwing this relationship in the garbage cans. 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: Some pretty eye popping stuff that Butch has had to say. 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: Right, he was very candid and very open with me. 65 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: I was actually surprised by that because a lot of 66 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: coaches when they're leaving their school, they usually don't speak 67 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 3: their mind. But Butch was very honest. He was very upfront. 68 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 3: You know, I reported the story on Monday, broke the 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: story that Butch Davis would not return next year to FIU, 70 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: and you know, there were a number of things that 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 3: really irked him, but the main thing was there just 72 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: was no commitment from the administration. And he gave me 73 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: numerous examples. He said when he got there in twenty seventeen, 74 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: he found out the shoulder pads that the school had 75 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: been using were ten years old. You have to get 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: shoulder pads certified every year. Apparently there's older pads. Not 77 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: all of them pass certifications. So they had to get 78 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: new shoulder pads. One problem, the school wouldn't give them 79 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: any money to buy new shoulder pads. Fortunately, an assistant 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: on FIU staff knew somebody at Mississippi State and they 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 3: heard what was going on. Mississippi State's shoulder pads were 82 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: only five years old, but they were replacing them luxury 83 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: of being a Power five school and so basically Mississippi 84 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: State said, Okay, you can have our shoulder pads and 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 3: so Butch is like, well, those shoulder pads were five 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: years old, but they were new to us, so they 87 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: use that other things like you know, people may think 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: this is the small potatoes, but in today's college football world, 89 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: with everything revolving around recruiting and what you can do 90 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: for your players, fi use uniforms haven't been replaced in 91 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: nine years. Oregon replaces their uniforms like every nine minutes. 92 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: So how attractive is that for any potential recruits to 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: come in. They wouldn't allow fi USE assistance to recruit 94 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: on the road the last two years. Last year during COVID, 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: I know you knew knew how bad FIU was. They 96 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: had literally half of the team was out with COVID 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 3: or season ending injuries. They were forced to play a 98 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: game at Liberty because, surprise, surprise, FIU would get a 99 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: big payday by going to play at Liberty. Butcher didn't 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: want to play this season. He didn't think it was 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: healthy for his players. And just the number of reasons 102 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: where the administration would not step up and provide just 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 3: adequate stuff for players, whether it's for the coaches. He's 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 3: not allowed to sign coaches to multi year deals. So 105 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: what coach would take a job move to South Florida 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 3: if you only have a one year deal when you 107 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: can go somewhere else and get a multi year deal. 108 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: So that hampers his ability to get assistant coaches. Just 109 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: on and on and on. But this isn't a FIU 110 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: hates Butch Davis. This is FIU has a major, major 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 3: decision to make, and that is are you going to 112 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: compete as an FBS school, because if you are, you 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: have to change everything you've done in the past ten years. 114 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: So what you're telling me is that Grantham coached these 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: shoulder pads five years ago at Mississippi State and then 116 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: they ended up on FIU players, which is a really 117 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: interesting bit since we know that Todd Grantham can't coach 118 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 2: defense whatsoever. 119 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: It's going to be a big, big challenge for whoever 120 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 3: takes over it as the AD and coach at FU. 121 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: Florida International a ten point underdog in North Texas this weekend, 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: so you know in North Texas has been covering like crazy, 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: and of course maybe it's Seth Latrell's last ditch effort 124 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: to stay on there as head coach. 125 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: We never know. 126 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: I think Orth Texas is a team that also could 127 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 2: have some turnover. Latrell had some Kansas state stuff going 128 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: on a couple of years ago, So we'll see how 129 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: that game turns out against Florida International. Staying in the 130 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: same area, and which is funny because you know, you 131 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: said two months ago the dumpster fire Teams of the 132 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: Week was the entire state of Florida. So let's stay 133 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: down there and let's talk about the Hurricanes. Just released today, 134 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: Miami fired athletic director Blake James. Deputy AD interim is 135 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: going to be Jim Strawley. Does this mean Manny Diaz 136 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 2: is done? Do you start with the AD and the 137 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Mercury way down to Manny? Is Many going to be reviewed? 138 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: Jim Strali is going to lead the effort to get 139 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: a new athletic director. Is she going to be in 140 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: charge of Many Diez's employment status? 141 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: It'll be above her. But look, anytime, you know, you 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: never want to be working for an AD that didn't 143 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: hire you. The only thing worse than that is the 144 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: AD the higher you hired you gets fired two weeks 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: before your final game, and you're sitting at nineteen and 146 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 3: fifteen and you just lost a must win game against 147 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 3: rival Florida State. I would be honest. I do not 148 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: have any inside information on the future of Many Diaz, 149 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: but reading the tea leaves and the way this is 150 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: played out with Blake James, it was obvious they did 151 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: not want Blake James to hire the next coach. If 152 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: that's the case, then it would make sense you would 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: get rid of Blake James now before you made the 154 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: move on Manny Diaz. The problem with Miami they're kind 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: of like Nebraska thinks it's you know, nineteen ninety or something, 156 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: and that's how successful they should be. I mean, since 157 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: you know, obviously Jimmy and Dennis Ericson was there, butch 158 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: Davis took him up to number two in the country 159 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: before he went to the NFL. Larry Koker won a 160 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: national championship. But since then, here's the list of coaches 161 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: that Miami has had. Randy Shannon four years, Al Golden 162 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: Somehow five years, Mark Rick three years. He left, reportedly 163 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: because the offense was so bad and he wanted to 164 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 3: hire his son as offensive coordinator, and Blake James said, no, 165 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 3: We're not going to allow that. So Rick said, okay, fine, 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: I'm going to retire, and now Manny Diaz, who had 167 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: taken the Temple job. I don't know if you remember 168 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: that it actually accepted the Temple job when Rick suddenly 169 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: stepped down, and then they were able to convince DS, 170 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: who was Rick's defensive coordinator, to take the head coaching job. 171 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: So it's been a revolving door of coaches there at Miami. 172 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: If you're going to get rid of Manny Diaz, you 173 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: need to have a plan on who you're gonna get. 174 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: I think the number one home run higher for Miami 175 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 3: is Mario Christaball at Oregon. He's he played at Miami, 176 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: coached at Miami. The unknown big unknown is would cryst 177 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 3: of Ball take the Miami job. I don't know if 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 3: he would or not. He's obviously guy to Oregon in 179 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: a great place there in the top four of the 180 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 3: coage current college football playoff. It's simple for the Ducks 181 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: went out, You're in the You're in the You're in 182 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: the playoff. There is no way on this earth that 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: Mario Cristibaal accepts that job or even dips his toe 184 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: in the waters until the season is done. So if 185 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: you're Miami, are you really going to wait until mid January, 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: potentially before you get your coach, because if you don't 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: get Crystal Ball, who are you going to get after that? 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: You know, you're your All of your choices after that 189 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: are gonna smell like bad. 190 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: Fisht Lashley would be high in an instant as an 191 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator at almost every school in FBS. What's the 192 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 2: chance is Rhet Lashley you think has a chance to stick? 193 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Is he viewed? I mean, I mean Miami lost Dearick 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: King and. 195 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: Is still putting up over thirty points a game with 196 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: Tyler Van Dyck, So I would I would wonder if 197 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: RHT Lashley is getting a get consideration or if he'll 198 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: move on for another offensive coordinator position. 199 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's unknown. I mean, it matters what happens, 200 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: who comes in. What's you know? That could go a 201 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 3: million different ways. So I couldn't I couldn't say definitively, 202 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: but I agree with you. I mean, what lastly he's 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: done has been been pretty remarkable. When you look at 204 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: they lost dearra King. You know, the offense has not 205 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: been an issue for Miami. It's ironically been the defense, 206 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: and that was diaz specialty. You know, their defense has 207 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 3: been a sieve, but offense, they put up some nice numbers, 208 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: especially when you lose somebody with the experience and leadership 209 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: of Dearrick King. So whatever happens with lastly, I think 210 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: he has certainly improved his stock by what the Canes 211 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 3: have done offensively well, Manny. 212 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 2: Diez, Butch Davis could end up as an analyst on 213 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: Alabama's staff. You never know who's coming into that analyst 214 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: revolving door. But let's move on to a coach that 215 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: was suspended and then fired, which is sad for me 216 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: because I love betting against them. Jimmy Lake one game 217 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: suspension has been fired to quote what came out of 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: the administration a variety of reasons on and off the field. 219 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that slapping a player in the face mask 220 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: was not was not even maybe one percent of the 221 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: reason why Jimmy Lake is no longer the head coach. 222 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: I'm guessing that there is just a certain way to 223 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: conduct yourself off the field with boosters, with your boss, 224 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: with your athletic director, and Jimmy Lake just wasn't hitting 225 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: all the notes and is probably going to end up 226 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: as a defensive coordinator somewhere and not return to the 227 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: head coaching ranks for a while. Where is Washington gonna go? 228 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 2: We're now, we're now about out of the division. You've 229 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: already fired our offensive coordinator. We're Washington and Washington State 230 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: have a skeleton crew coaching them right now. Where are 231 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: the Husky's gonna go from here? 232 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: Little known fact about the upcoming Apple Cup between Washington 233 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: and Washington State. Nick Rolovich and Jimmy Lake never lost 234 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 3: in the Apple Cup. It's true, of course, they never 235 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 3: coached in it either. You know, I think Justin Wilcox 236 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: at CAL I think that makes a lot of sense 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: for Washington also a guy that really fits what Washington does. 238 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 3: And you know, I've had the opportunity to talk to 239 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: this guy and he is tremendous and I don't know 240 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: if a lot of people know much about him nationally, 241 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: but that's b whyu's Kalonie Sataki. I think he's somebody 242 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: that could work at Washington other than sc and Oregon. 243 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: That's that's probably the third best job west of Oklahoma, Texas. 244 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: You know that that part of the United States. So 245 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 3: they're gonna have some real attractive candidates and it will 246 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: be fascinating to see what direction they go. But yeah, 247 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: you're right, it wasn't you know the Jimmy Lake the 248 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: incident with the player that was that was just that 249 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 3: was one small ember in a huge fire that was 250 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 3: going on there. When Seattle Times reported about an incident 251 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: that happened a couple of years ago when he was 252 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 3: an assistant, allegedly putting his hands on a player, hitting 253 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: a player or whatever. I was told from sources up 254 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: there that basically the recruiting class under Lake was the 255 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: worst it's ever been and there was a huge, huge 256 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 3: fear that the Huskies were going to fall back to 257 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: the Ty Willingham days. And if you and a scare 258 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: Washington supporter just mentioned Ty Willingham because I believe they 259 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: were winless one year, it wasn't a good fit. And 260 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 3: I think that became apparent for a coach that was 261 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: only their thirteen games. 262 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Chad Morris path who never I still to 263 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: this day, Chad Morris has never won a Power five 264 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: game on it all the time at SMU in Arkansas. 265 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: Koloni Satagi is an extremely interesting hire. That's a coach 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: that consistently covers the spread, gets most out of his players. 267 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: I thought there would be a drop off of BYU's 268 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 2: offense with Jeff Grimes going to Baylor, and there hasn't been. 269 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: So that's a testament to Sataki in the program that 270 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 2: he runs. But you have to think that they're going 271 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 2: to go into Peterson's coaching tree and pull someone from there, 272 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: justin Wilcox, knowing the conference and the recruiting footprint, a 273 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: really big candidate, you know, someone that's not fired yet, 274 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: Brett that let's zip back to the state of Florida. 275 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: Has Dan Mullen just decided that we're not playing defense? 276 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 2: Like are they just setting up eleven lawn chairs out there? 277 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: Samford's throwing up a fifty burger on the Gators as 278 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: Dan Mullen checked out, the score was just I know, 279 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: you fired your defensive Cordior, but the ease of which 280 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Samford score points was amazing. 281 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess Todd Grantham was enjoying that game. It's 282 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 3: probably sitting back with the cigar, you know, like Seinfeld 283 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 3: the one clip of him laughing. I mean, I was 284 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: texting people during that game and I'm like, I, you know, 285 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: couldn't believe what was going on. You know, somebody was 286 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: jokingly suggesting, you know, no one's going to get fired 287 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 3: at halftime. Look Scott Strickling their ad. He he would 288 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 3: prefer to keep Dan Mullin. But if Florida loses to 289 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: Missouri or Florida State, I don't see how they can 290 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: keep them. They've lost some of the fan base. If 291 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: they lose to Missouri or Florida State, they will have 292 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: lost the entire fan base. And once that happens, you 293 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 3: can't get them back. Their former ad Jeremy Foley, had 294 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: a great philosophy was if you're going to do something eventually, 295 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: go ahead and do it now. That South Carolina loss 296 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: really changed his job security, and I think that's pretty 297 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: well known. And now it's kind of it to see 298 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: how does this play out? And then if you're Florida, 299 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: if you're going to make this move, where are you 300 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: going to go to? You know, replace Mullin. The good 301 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: news is you don't have to wait. You only have 302 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 3: two more weeks. You're not going to a conference championship game. 303 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 3: We talked about the job openings and the carousel. You 304 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: said it went from a four seater to a school bus. Well, 305 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 3: we're gonna need a bigger bus. 306 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: Florida Missouri opened up seventy three and a half. That 307 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: number at total has come down to sixty nine and 308 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: a half. I don't know who's playing defense in that game, 309 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: and I would only have to assume, as you and 310 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: I record here on a Monday, that some of my 311 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: fellow friends that are shapers early in the week are 312 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: shaping that total love before they come back and hit 313 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the over because I don't know who's playing a lick 314 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: at defense and that one so Dan mullen to be 315 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 2: determined early signing period coming up. Generally, coaches ads probably 316 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: want to have coaches in place so they get their 317 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: the recruiting. 318 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: Classes don't suffer. 319 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: Let's set a line on the total number of head 320 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: coaching changes by the end of January. Not from here 321 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: to January. I'm saying total of what's already happened. There's 322 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty teams in FBS. How many head 323 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: coaching positions do you think change between now and the 324 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: end of January. 325 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: Wow, we're at eleven right now, because there are dominos. 326 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: Once you guys you know, leave to go another job, 327 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: then you got to replace those guys. I'm going to 328 00:16:56,040 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: say over under twenty five and a half. 329 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: So Brett's coming in hot at twenty percent, which makes 330 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: college football now the NBA where no coach lasts longer 331 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 2: than two years. All right, all right, let's move on 332 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: to the AP Top twenty five versus the Action Network 333 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: Top twenty five. Our rankings are really coming in line. 334 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 2: I think that that's you know, we've known this for 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: some time that we have some disagreements about from a 336 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: power rating perspective, how oddsmakers set teams versus the AP 337 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: Top twenty five. 338 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: And we've talked about it for weeks. But I think 339 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: the one team that we need to. 340 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: Hit a note on because I think you were a 341 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: little shocked yourself when you text me and said, what's 342 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: the Bedlum line. 343 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: Going to be? 344 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 2: I was like smiling when I sent the text because 345 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: I was hoping you were going to be shocked by 346 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: the number. But Michael lev Out of Arizona ranked Oklahoma 347 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: State number two in his AP poll. Brett, you didn't 348 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: rank them that high at number two. You're a former 349 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: alumni here. Were you a little bit shocked when I 350 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 2: said that Oklahoma State is projected as a small favorite 351 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: against Oklahoma and Bedlum in Stillwater. 352 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was shocked. 353 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: Look I'm in Oklama State alone. I know how this 354 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: movie plays out, and I don't like it. There will 355 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: be all this optimism about Oklahoma State. The bottom line, 356 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: Oklahoma will win the game this year, though it will 357 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: have a sick twist. This year. Oklahoma State will win 358 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: bedlamen Stillwater. Then they'll have a rematch in the Big 359 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 3: Twelve title game in Arlington, and OU will beat Oklahoma 360 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 3: State and knock us out of the college football playoffs. 361 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: I am mentally I am prepared for that. I hope 362 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: I'm wrong. I give tremendous amount of credit to Jim 363 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 3: Knowles in what he has done with Oklahoma State's defense 364 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: because I know, talking with you and Stucky, over the years, 365 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 3: Oklahoma State's defense gave up a ton of yards, but 366 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: they created a lot of turnovers and that kind of 367 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 3: made up for some deficiencies. That certainly is not the 368 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 3: case this year. Their defense has been off the charts, 369 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: and the offense, which is usually the high point for 370 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, is slowly surely coming along. God if Oklahoma 371 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: State had some of their offenses, you know, high powered 372 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: offenses the past few years under Gundy with this defense, 373 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 3: I would be very confident they would win the Big 374 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: Twelve and get to the College Football Playoff. But I hope, 375 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: I hope, I hope I'm wrong. But as I said, 376 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 3: I've seen this movie a million times. I know how 377 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: the ending credits will go. 378 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: Mike Garsich, if you're out there listening, what Brett is 379 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: saying is he will happily donate to the booster money 380 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: to get you back for a couple of games to 381 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 2: get the old Oklahoma. 382 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: State glory going. 383 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, the offensive coordinator position, you know, Sean Gleeson comes 384 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: in from Princeton after scoring more points I think ever 385 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: in the FCS level, he takes back off for New Jersey. 386 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 2: Gundy has an offensive coordinator that he's kind of had 387 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: to groom along. 388 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Now. 389 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: Definitely not the offenses that we're used to in the past, 390 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: but this defense is putting up some really tremendous numbers 391 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: here and the Oklahoma offense all of a sudden can't 392 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: score any points. Caleb Williams, I know he got his 393 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: hand stepped on, but there were problems before against that Bay, 394 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 2: that multiple front, that scheme that Miranda calls. We said 395 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: it last week and Miranda has somehow figured out a 396 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: way every time, whether he's at LSU or a Baylor, 397 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: he has found out a way to figure out Lincoln 398 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Riley's offenses. And that came to fruition the other day. 399 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: Oklahoma's minus one twenty to win the Big Twelve. Oklahoma 400 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: State is plus two forty to win the Big Twelve. 401 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 2: So if you believe in Brett, I would probably scoop 402 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: it about Oklahoma State plus two forty. 403 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: And then after Bedlam you may be able to get Oklahoma. 404 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: Plus money right now, but you know, Oklahoma State is 405 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: going to be a small favorite, assuming things play out 406 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 2: the way they do this weekend. Oklahoma State's gonna be 407 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: a small favorite in Bedlam. And that's just going to 408 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: be a really big thing for the program. And you 409 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 2: should be proud of you. I love how contrain you 410 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 2: are with your alumni, like I am with Arkansas, Like 411 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: you just kind of hopped over Arkansas when we started 412 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: off the podcast and said that Alabama is absolutely gonna win. Listen, 413 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Arkansas could win this weekend and Alabama could lose a 414 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 2: Iron Bowl. Okay, I'm not dreaming of that at all. 415 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: So apparently the Action Network does not conduct drug test 416 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: for its employees. 417 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 2: But whatever you say, whoo pig silly, there's nothing legal 418 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: in the state of our Arkansas. 419 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: Accept the literacy and team pregnancy. 420 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So we're gonna move on from the ap 421 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: top twenty five and the action never top twenty five. 422 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting that Oklahoma State does have 423 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: a real chance to get into the playoff here, and 424 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: I think their defense is going to present some problems 425 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: for Oklahoma. So we check out that Bettlum right up 426 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 2: next week. When you have your turkey, let's move on 427 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: to the Heisman handicap. 428 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 3: This is your Heisman handicap. 429 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: The Heisman Trophy is awarded to so Bret. 430 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 2: We used to have a monster list, and you and 431 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: I targeted CJ. Stroud after Ohio State lost their first game. 432 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: I believe he was hanging out somewhere around fourteen to 433 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: eighteen to one. He is now down to plus two twenty. 434 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: Bryce Young is a plus one eighty. Now you're a 435 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Heisman voter, Brett. You're three weeks away from having to 436 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: submit your Heisman vote, and you have stuck to your 437 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: guns like a poke, and you have kept with Bryce 438 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: Young this entire time. 439 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: I have been a big CJ. Stroud fan. 440 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: I think they are the most vertical offense of everybody 441 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: on this list. 442 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm still amazing a Kenneth Walker. 443 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: The third is at plus two to eighty Matt Crowe 444 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: all the way down to seven to one, which ties 445 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 2: into what Brett says. 446 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: This is so ingrained. 447 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: The Heisman is now ingrained into how your team performs. 448 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: The Lamar Jackson winning the Heisman was just an anomaly 449 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 2: because of the stats he's putting up. If you can 450 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 2: put up fifty plus touchdowns, you can win the Heisman 451 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: no matter who you're playing for. But Caleb Williams takes 452 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 2: a dip down to fifty to one. Sam Hartman, even 453 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 2: though his team won, he dipped from forty down to 454 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: fifty to one. It's truly a two man race. Bryce 455 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Young and c J. 456 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Stroud. Brett, where are you voting for New York? 457 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: The board's not given out right now, but I would 458 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: give it to Bryce Young. He's got, you know, thirty 459 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 3: three touchdowns, three interceptions, third most TD passes in the 460 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: country behind our favorite quarterback, Bailey z Appy. Bailey Zappy, 461 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: I'd love to say Bailey's Appy. Look again, don't shoot 462 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: the messenger the Heisman. Like you said, it's become a 463 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: team award, it's become a quarterback award. I think it's 464 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 3: very very simple. And we talked about, you know, Bryce 465 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: she Young was three to one a month or so ago, 466 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 3: and we recommended people to take Bryce Young at three 467 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: to one because you had better odds on Bryce Young 468 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: to win the Heisman than you did on Alabama to 469 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 3: win the national title. And I think those will come 470 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: to fruition for Bryce Young if the following happens. Alabama 471 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: is competitive against Georgia and Bryce Shung does not have 472 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: a horrible, horrible game, if he puts up big numbers, 473 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: and you talked about, you know, Alabama's going to have 474 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: to go vertical against Georgia. If Bryce Young can have 475 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: decent number, I mean, he doesn't need a monster game. 476 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: If he can just put up good numbers against a 477 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: Georgia defense that has not allowed more than seventeen points 478 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: now thanks to Tennessee, then I think it's Bryce Young's 479 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 3: to win. I never bought the Kenneth Walker hype. Again, 480 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 3: don't shoot the messenger. It's not a running back award. 481 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's fair I'm just saying that's how 482 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: it is. Voters are enamored with quarterbacks unless you have 483 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 3: somebody have an incredible year like DeVante Smith or something 484 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 3: like that. So it's Bryce Young's award to lose, and 485 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: if Ohio State doesn't win out, c J. Stroud has 486 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 3: no chance to win the Heisman zero. Bryce Young can 487 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 3: lose to Georgia and still win it. Anybody after that, 488 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 3: you're just instead of playing your future plays on the Heisman, 489 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: just send it directly to me because they have zero 490 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 3: point zero percent chance. If you're not a fan of 491 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 3: Animal House, you won't get that reference. If you are 492 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: a fan of Animal House, you are older than Colin. 493 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: So I appreciate you listening. 494 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: I love Animal House, but okay, you bringing up the 495 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 2: poison references the other day on the on the Live 496 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: show was great because that was my favorite band when 497 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 2: I was twelve years old. But I think if we're 498 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: going to listen for betting advice here, Brett, it is 499 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: truly just a two man race, and you're saying that 500 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: Bryce Young, if he looks good in a loss, still 501 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: we'll get. 502 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: More votes in your opinion over CJ. Stroud. If Ohio 503 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: State wins out. 504 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 3: No, If Ohio State wins out, then I think Stroud's 505 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: got a shot, but he's got to put up monster 506 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: games against Michigan. He's got to put up monster games 507 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten title game, and then he has 508 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: a shot. If Ohio State does not win out, then 509 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: it's Bryce Young wins the Highs. 510 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: Both CJ. 511 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: Stroud and Bryce Young are taking on top notch defenses 512 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: in their projected conference games. 513 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: CJ. 514 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 2: Stroud would have to go through a Wisconsin defense that 515 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 2: isn't giving up anything in the air to anybody, and 516 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: Bryce Young does not have the offensive line to deal 517 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 2: with Jordan Davis and this Georgia defensive front. So I'm 518 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: really interested to see where we go. I don't think 519 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: there's value on either of these quarterbacks at these current numbers, 520 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 2: But at the same time, I agree with Brett. 521 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: It's a two man race. 522 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 2: You're better off looking at team futures to make the playoff, 523 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: which we're going to talk about here. So let's pivot 524 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 2: over to the playoff payoff. 525 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 3: The college football playoff payoff, playoff. Don't talk about playoff, 526 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: you kidding me? Playoff? 527 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: So Brett, last week, Oregon slipped up to number three, 528 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 2: Ohio States in the in the top four, we had 529 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 2: an interesting you know, Michigan swapping with Michigan State, even 530 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: though there was a head to head. 531 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: I know that a lot of. 532 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: The talking heads on the TV liked to make it 533 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: a big point of emphasis. But you know, this is 534 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 2: all going to work itself out in the big ten East. 535 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: Where we need to focus is a piece that I 536 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: wrote for the Action Network. It'll be out on Tuesday morning, 537 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: and it talks about the four commandments of the college 538 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: Football Playoff, and there is a certain set of rules 539 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: that the committee has always followed. An undefeated Power five 540 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: team always gets in, a one loss Power five conference 541 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: champion always gets in. And then after that, there was 542 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, Alabama with one loss is an at 543 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 2: large hopped two loss Ohio State as a conference champion. 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 2: And that was also the same season that Central Florida 545 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: wasn't acknowledged at all and didn't get into the playoff, 546 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: wasn't even consider didn't get close, not as close as 547 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: Cincinnati as at number five right now. 548 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: And then I go to back. 549 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: To last year's ratings where three loss teams and two 550 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: loss teams in Florida and Texas A and M hopped 551 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 2: undefeated Cincinnati as the rankings went by week after week. 552 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: So in my article that's going to come out on 553 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 2: Action Network, Cincinnati, in my opinion, is maybe sixth or 554 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: seventh on the list of who can fill that fourth 555 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: seed because I think wake Forest is a one loss 556 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 2: ACC champ might actually get in over Cincinnati would If 557 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: that's the scenario, there's one spot left. Let's forget about 558 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: all the other Power five conferences. Let's assume we're goan 559 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 2: loses out. There's one spot left. Would you think the 560 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 2: pecking order would be a one loss wake Forest or 561 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: an undefeated Cincinnati. 562 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 3: Man that wake Forest would have no wins against ranked 563 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: opponents unless they get at somebody in the ACC title 564 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 3: game that's ranked. Cincinnati will have one win against a 565 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: ranked opponent. If Houston can get ranked, I think because 566 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: of the public pressure, they would put Cincinnati in thirteen 567 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 3: and oh Cincinnati over twelve and one week Forest if 568 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 3: we're comparing them head to head, and the other three 569 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 3: teams have been decided. However, they were decided, and any 570 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: other teams that could get in the mix lost out. 571 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 3: So that's your last two. It would set a precedent. 572 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: Like you said, I don't know if I necessarily agree 573 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 3: with it. I think they'll pick Cincinnati. 574 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: Pretty positive that Oklahoma State one loss gets in over Cincinnati. 575 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: Does Oklahoma with one loss get in because they're going 576 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 2: to take a major dip here this weekend. I mean, 577 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 2: I know that they're gonna have to face Oklahoma State 578 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: twice and they can make up a lot of ground. 579 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: But is the Big Twelve out of this or they're 580 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: going to. 581 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: Hop Cincinnati if there's a one loss champion that comes 582 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 2: out of the Big Twelve? 583 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Correct? 584 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: I think if Oklahoma State runs a table, they get 585 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: in over Cincinnati, no doubt. If that's the fourth spot 586 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: we're talking about. If it's Oklahoma, it's basically a coin flip. 587 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: I really think that you look at Oklahoma would in 588 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: that scenario have only two wins ast ranked opponents, and 589 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: that would be beating Oklahoma State twice. So do you 590 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 3: really count that is two wins against the ranked opponent 591 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: or you just beat the same team twice? 592 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Right? 593 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 3: That'll be fascinating because there's a reason right now that 594 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 3: Oklahoma is ranked behind Cincinnati. I would say, like Wake Forest, 595 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: it's going to be tough for Oklahoma to get up 596 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: there and get in over A thirteen and Oh Cincinnati. 597 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 2: You can tell that the committee is paying attention to 598 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: strength of records so closely, because an undefeated Oklahoma team, 599 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: you would expect them to be in the top four, 600 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: but they slotted them at eighth. So I would be 601 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: a little fearful as a Sooners fan about how far 602 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: they're going to take a dip. Obviously they can make 603 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: that up, but they they are going to have to 604 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: be uber impressive in their final games to get back 605 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: up into this playoff scenario in Oklahoma State, it's all 606 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: there in front of them. They should finish ahead of 607 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: Cincinnati if they went out as Big twelve champs. I 608 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: think the interesting thing for tomorrow does Michigan with a 609 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 2: win over Penn State do they move up from six 610 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: to five over Cincinnati. 611 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: Wow? I was very surprised. 612 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 3: I think I think they should. I don't. I don't 613 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: necessarily know if they'll do it. Look, you're not supposed 614 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: to do this. I did the mock process twice. When 615 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: I did the mock process, we did it for an 616 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: individual season and I forgot what season it was, but 617 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: we basically took the final rankings and said, okay, here 618 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: are your rankings, here are your teams. How would you 619 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: pick your field? And we went through that process based 620 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: only on the final results. If I was part of 621 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: the process now, it would be impossible for me not 622 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 3: to know that. You know what, Michigan plays Ohio State 623 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks, so I can leave them 624 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: behind Cincinnati now because if they beat Ohio State, they're 625 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: going to jump Cincinnati. And that's what I would I 626 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: would stress this. I can't stress this enough to the 627 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: people out there listening. If you get all fired up 628 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: about Tuesday's rankings, don't I mean, don't even watch it, 629 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, follow follow me on Twitter. I'll tell you 630 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: what goes on, but don't even watch it. And here's why. 631 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: It's absolutely meaningless. Whatever they do with the rankings, it's 632 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: it's worthless. It's worthless on the on the piece of 633 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 3: paper they printed out on. None of the rankings matter 634 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: at all until we get to the final one. And 635 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 3: that's when you know, is a voter for the for 636 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: the playoff. Okay, now this is legit. This is going 637 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: to matter. If I put Cincinnati this week at five 638 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 3: or five hundred, it doesn't matter because it doesn't impact 639 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: what bowl they go in. Who goes to the playoff 640 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 3: that changes in the final one. And that's why you 641 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: see and we got the We got the message loud 642 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: and clear in your one TCU right number three, they 643 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 3: seal Club Iowa State fifty five to three, and they 644 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 3: drop to number six in the final polls. So I think, 645 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 3: calling to answer your question five minutes later that I 646 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: think they keep them behind Cincinnati because human nature, they'll know. Look, 647 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 3: if they beat Ohio State, we'll jump them at that point. 648 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: Everybody should check out Brett's Bowl pro preview. As of 649 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 2: right now, he's got my Arkansas Razorbacks go to the 650 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: Duke's Mail Bowl, something I would love, although a trip 651 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: of the state of Florida was warming up for me. 652 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Georgia and Cincinnati and the Orange Bowl, Ohio State, Alabama 653 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: and the Cotton Bowl. Make sure and give Brett's Bowl 654 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: projections a read. 655 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: So I got a real quick, funny story about the 656 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 3: college football playoff rankings when I was at ESPN. And 657 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't remember what year this was. You know, 658 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 3: the show comes on at seven pm every week, and 659 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here at home watching the ESPN Round six PM, 660 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 3: an hour before the show, and I notice on the 661 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 3: bottom line the ticker on ESPN they're listing games that 662 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: are being played this week. The problem is they were 663 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 3: listing the rankings of the College Football Playoff that had 664 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 3: not been announced yet. They were going to be announced 665 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: at seven o'clock. Back then, the College Football Playoff would 666 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: send ESPN the rankings an hour or so before the 667 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: show ran so they could get graphics ready so they 668 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 3: could do all this stuff. Unfortunately, somebody at ESPN mistakenly 669 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 3: put the new rankings in with all of the team listings, 670 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: so on the bottom line, well, I guess it was 671 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: this may have been the first year twenty fourteen. 672 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: Was that Florida State twenty three? 673 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, so because they had Florida State that had 674 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: dropped from two to three one week. And actually my 675 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: boss at ESPN called me, he saw me because I 676 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 3: was tweeting it, and said, here are the new College 677 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: Football Playoff rankings and hour before the show ran, and 678 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 3: he goes, where in the hell did you get the rankings? 679 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 3: Who gave that to you? And I said, uh, it's 680 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: running on ESPN right now on the bottom line. So 681 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: needless to say the cause that was the last time 682 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: and then they changed it after that where ESPN got 683 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 3: advanced notice of the rankings. So when Reese says, actually 684 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 3: that only Steve the graphics guy, is the only one 685 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: with the information that is legit because of what happened, 686 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: what happened that first year, that is amazing. 687 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: And we'll see if Steve is a gamble. I'd like 688 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: to know Steve Seef he's a gambler. 689 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 3: It is, yeah, as recess set has correctly said, the 690 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 3: most powerful man in college football when that stuff comes out, 691 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: especially when the final rankings come out that first Sunday 692 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 3: in December. 693 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: Books are pretty smart to see some suspicious money come 694 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: in and take lines down if you need a gambling 695 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: deliverable Brett. We talked about Michigan being sixty to one 696 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: last week and how that was a really attractive number 697 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: that people should have gotten into. 698 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: They did beat Penn State. That number did drop. It's 699 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: now thirty five to one on Michigan. 700 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: There's no value there. They should be about forty two 701 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: to one. That'll be in my article on Tuesday. By 702 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 2: the college Football Playoff. All the value in the world 703 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: right now is with Georgia and minus one twenty that 704 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: goes up to minus one fifty before it starts losing 705 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 2: value for the national Championship. And then, believe it or not, 706 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: mister Brett McMurphy's pokes, they're eighty to one at DraftKings 707 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: and I can't figure it out for the life of me. 708 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: They're going to be fit over Oklahoma at home. It's 709 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: going to be a Pickham game in Arlington, and right now, 710 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 2: Oklahoma at thirty five to one in Oklahoma States at 711 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: eighty to one makes absolutely zero sense. 712 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Now. 713 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: I know Brett feels like there's no way we can 714 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: get through these two games. We'll win bettelhom and lose 715 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: the championship. Listen, this is about money and investments and 716 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 2: everything in eighty to one is a huge number for 717 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 2: the pokes. That is your gambling deliverable the week, Brett, 718 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: you want to want to peel back the rubber band 719 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: and throw a throw Benjamin Franklin down on some pokes 720 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: with me. 721 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 1: Go pokes. 722 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 3: I mean that would be that actually be a good 723 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: and you could hedge out of the Big twelve title 724 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 3: game with Oklahoma. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, you would have a 725 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: lot of opportunities you would be able to buy a 726 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 3: lot of Brahms Hamburgers, which Barry Sanders is a big 727 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 3: fan of. Inside Joe, I'm sure, calling after the rankings 728 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 3: come out Tuesday night, I'm sure that eighty one is 729 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 3: going to go away. So if you guys have confidence 730 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: in my pokes, take Collins advice. 731 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely agree. They're going to move up, Oklahoma's going 732 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 2: to move down. These numbers are probably going to flip flop. 733 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: So as you're listening, snag that pokes eighty to one, 734 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: And if you happen to be traveling through the Midwest, 735 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 2: stop buy for a bag of burgers at Brahms and 736 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 2: get yourself a yogurt twist. 737 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: It's some good stuff with crinkle fries. 738 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: All right, bright, Before I let you go, there are 739 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 2: props up right now to make the college football playoff. 740 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,280 Speaker 2: There's you know, there's not a whole ton of value 741 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 2: on a lot of these. Ohio State Yes, minus one seventy. 742 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna get probably a better money line in the 743 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: championship game or running parlay card. Oklahoma Yes plus two forty. 744 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 2: I think that's properly priced. Oregon Yes plus two sixty. 745 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: That does not match what they're about to do, with 746 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 2: Utah having to face them potentially twice in the next 747 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: three weeks, and interestingly enough Cincinnati to make the playoff 748 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: plus two fifty. I think all these are lined correctly 749 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: except for Georgia. Georgia is minus two thousand, Brett. So 750 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 2: are we looking to lay two thousand dollars to win 751 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 2: one hundred or ten thousand dollars to win five hundred? 752 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any chance at all with this 753 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: remaining schedule of Charleston Southern, Georgia Tech, and. 754 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: No matter what happens this c Championship. 755 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: Game, minus two thousand, probably the easiest money you'll ever make. 756 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, can I have a loan for that next week? 757 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: I'll get I'll get it back to you in a month, 758 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 3: I promise. Yeah. I mean, you're basically minus two thousand on. 759 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: Is Georgia gonna lose to Georgia Tech? Well, that would 760 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: be I guess it would be so. But actually to 761 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: be you know, if you're going to put you know, 762 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 3: I know that's a ridiculous amount, but if you were 763 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 3: going to play that, I would just you would have 764 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: a I'm I'm guessing you would have a lower maybe 765 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 3: not you would have a lower money line when you 766 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 3: play Georgia Tech. Right, Yeah, so I would just put 767 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 3: I would put double the money on George play Georgia 768 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: versus Georgia Tech. As opposed to playoffs. 769 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: You can still lose to Georgia Tech and beat Alabama 770 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 2: and in the red. I mean, it's just this, Yeah, 771 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 2: it's minus two thousands, like it's bulletproof. I don't know 772 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 2: why people are out there betting tennis lines and feeder 773 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: minus thirty five hundred when you could just grab this 774 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: Georgia to make the playoff at minus two thousand, that's 775 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 2: actually some pretty good value. So you know, as far 776 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: as to make the props, we're gonna stick with our Georgia. 777 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: We're gonna lay ten grand to win five hundred, and 778 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: we will happily spend it on all the tolls you 779 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 2: have to pay on the roads here in Oklahoma. All right, Brett, 780 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: we are going to wrap it up for Sources. We 781 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 2: will not be on the air next week, shortened week 782 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: with Thanksgiving coming in Stucky and I of course will 783 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 2: be podcasting for week thirteen, but Sources will take a 784 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: two week break. We will be back before conference championship. 785 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Week. 786 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: This has been big Bets on Campus Sources edition. Tomorrow 787 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 2: afternoon you can hear our Group of five experts Mike 788 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,919 Speaker 2: Ianello and Mike Calabres on our G five Deep Dive 789 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 2: episode and late late Thursday nights, Stucky and i A 790 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: will return for our week twelve betting preview. 791 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: All right here on the BBOC. 792 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: Bread has to get back to finding out if he 793 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: can get over twenty five and a half coaches fired, 794 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: and I've got to get back to laying some overs 795 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 2: on Sandy Yego State football. Thanks for joining me, Brett. 796 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: See everybody at the window. 797 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: M