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Speaker 1: Well, appreciate you coming on the show, bro Man. You

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Speaker 1: know we're big fans of yours man and yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know he straight out of high school guy. So

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Speaker 1: We got another one, one of them famous straight out

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Speaker 1: of high school guys. You know, one of them representeds.

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Speaker 1: You know we in the in the big building, in

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Speaker 1: the back of the whole NBA thing. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: high school guys. You know, ain't too many of us.

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Speaker 1: But appreciate you, brother for coming on the show.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: First question, I want to ask you who's the first

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Speaker 1: person to bust your ass when you got to the league?

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Speaker 3: Man? Uh, Kevin Willis.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Willis, strong Gas, Kevin Williams. Kevin Willis. Look you

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Speaker 1: see Kevin Willis look like that right now to this day,

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Speaker 1: the same jeans he's still selling. He's doing that that.

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Speaker 1: You was just like all of them.

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Speaker 4: No, he's just I was trying to box him out,

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Speaker 4: throwing elbows. Yeah, and he chicken waved me and I

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Speaker 4: was like, man, let me go, said no, young fella.

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Speaker 3: You ain't going nowhere, and he just helped me.

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Speaker 4: I said, I got to give it in the gym.

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Speaker 2: Yo, yo yo, we live on location. We got the

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Speaker 2: blackest one. We live here in sunny, sunny Orlando. But

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Speaker 2: it don't matter. Were Visible with Rizon today we bring

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Speaker 2: one of the most dominant forces to ends ever ever

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Speaker 2: at superhero your super action figure status in the building,

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Speaker 2: three time Defensive Player of the Year, World champion, Yes,

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Speaker 2: straight out of high school represented that, don't you.

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Speaker 3: We got the big fella.

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Speaker 1: The White Howard Atlanta's.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you put up back in his own stomach ground

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Speaker 2: y'all type in yes, sir, presented by Visible.

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Speaker 1: Ever since I seen you, I was like, what the

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Speaker 2: Quba?

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Speaker 1: Like he lifts the weight room? Like I'm talking, like

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Speaker 1: I was like, this man has built like a straight superhero,

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Speaker 1: Like who put you on the weight room and knew

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Speaker 1: the weight room was like important for you?

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Speaker 4: I would say when I got to the league, just

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Speaker 4: saying how just watching you know you coming in and

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Speaker 4: everyone came before me and y'all always talked about having

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Speaker 4: I gotta get big. I want to come in and

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Speaker 1: Folks would telling me like, man, you got them shoulders

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Speaker 1: to be be like man, you left the ways, boy,

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Speaker 2: Did y'all never? Yah? Never?

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Speaker 3: Yall did it later on?

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Speaker 1: But metabolism, you know what I'm saying, y'ah never yad ya.

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Speaker 1: You strong what we were talking about. But but when

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Speaker 1: We not really not really no, because we didn't have

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Speaker 1: But like like when you came in, that was just

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, it's a different type level of

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Speaker 2: I remember that you got to high school. What made

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Speaker 4: It was like in Atlanta basketball, Yeah, I thought, And

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So because I know you had to make a

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Speaker 4: I really just liked that school and I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me enjoyed as much as possible. Did they

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Speaker 3: Nah? We did?

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Speaker 2: You played for the Celtics, right, Atlanta Celtics. Yeah, Celtics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what really helped me, playing with Josh and

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Speaker 4: One player in Georgia. He was like you, he was

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Speaker 4: He was like Tim Duncan for seven footer. You know

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Speaker 1: What year in high school did you feel like, No,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're pretty good.

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Speaker 1: It's playing that game though, Like, because you know, Lebron

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Speaker 4: I don't know who he was before that. And in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Your friends, your unity.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm at home and I'm asking my homeboys, like Hey,

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Speaker 4: y'all ever heard of this dude named Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: And they're like, you don't know Lebron. I was like no,

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Speaker 4: So we go down to Houston and they warming up.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, God, the whole team watching Lebron one, I said, God,

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Speaker 6: I first played the game, he just dunked everything.

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Speaker 4: Like we lost the game, but it like apped me

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Speaker 1: How did you do? Like because like I played against

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Speaker 1: His name was Frankie Williams. He's out of pure. When

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Speaker 4: Just playing against Kendrick Perkins, Leo.

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Speaker 2: When was the first time did you heard you was

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Speaker 4: I want to say it was after we had the

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Speaker 3: Like, what was your thought like after.

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Speaker 2: Seeing Lebron, Kendrick and do and all that, Then you

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Speaker 3: Stay humble.

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Speaker 4: That's what I kept seeing because two years before that,

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Speaker 4: All the people who said I was gonna be good,

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Speaker 4: I broke my leg and so I promised myself, like, man,

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Speaker 4: But if you don't stay humble and stay hungry, you

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Speaker 4: can lose it all.

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Speaker 1: So when you turn number one, you broke your leg

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Speaker 1: after you turned.

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Speaker 4: On one, Yeah, I broke my leg before I turned

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Speaker 4: number one. I had broke my leg.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I came back stronger and better.

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Speaker 1: And that's your year.

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Speaker 3: And that was my senior year where I was number

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Speaker 3: one in the nation.

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Speaker 1: What college could have got you that almost had you?

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Speaker 3: Like U n C.

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Speaker 4: Who was man, that's when they had just one with

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Speaker 1: Period when I came out, like seeing KG, then you

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Speaker 1: Like a lot of guys don't know, like the work

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Speaker 4: I really try not to think about it, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: Let's just be high schoolers. Cause once it's once I

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Speaker 2: That's getting nothing else with bad. Do you remember a

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Speaker 2: somewhere close. He was like him and his team say,

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Speaker 4: Yes, we was in Uh it was this tournament up

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Speaker 3: That's what he was saying.

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Speaker 2: Like I want, I'm the man around. I really wanted.

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, we got the smallest school and

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Speaker 1: Did you see his team in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: They was the ones man like everybody you heard about them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the teams to talk about lou Will because like

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Speaker 3: Is he a go all?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your point goal? If he ain't six one or

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Speaker 4: He's just like Jordans just like the young Jordan, Like

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Speaker 3: And he's scoring with the best of them. So man,

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Speaker 1: Man, your McDonald's experience, you know, you got you got

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 4: It was, It was amazing, man, even though it was

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Speaker 2: In Boston, was in Norfolk, Virginia, Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 1: Dog Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so the great part about it was I had

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Speaker 2: And uh so you was that when she wanted dunk contest?

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Speaker 2: How that worked? You usually talk to Candis and she

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Speaker 4: Now, my mama told me not to do it.

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Speaker 1: You and your girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: Win it, and she won it. I want you know

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Speaker 2: that shot town and you know not saying, louis this

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Speaker 2: there clowning. She was rapid for the women. You hear me,

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Speaker 2: she was you know what I'm saying, wait wait to represent?

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Speaker 1: How was that like the talent that was on there

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Speaker 1: and to see them guys their careers in the league,

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Speaker 2: And Sebastian said, the set the tone for other little

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Speaker 2: like because that was even your thing. You used to

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Speaker 3: Like man, Bassie was the truth.

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Speaker 4: Like we had a game against them, we flew up

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Speaker 4: get to the bass, he could pass. Bassie was was nice.

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Speaker 3: He was nice, cold, cold.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere. Everything I always said about because.

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Speaker 4: He doing the same dunks and it looked crazy, but

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Speaker 4: he doing it with ease. And he was like he

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Speaker 4: do everything.

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Speaker 1: That class, because like, man, you get some hitters on

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Speaker 1: that class. When they stuff from that class, how was

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Speaker 1: that not only to win they Smith, but you want

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Speaker 1: to state championship. We was talking about d White, sir,

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Speaker 1: but but to win the state championship, to win the

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Speaker 1: state championship and when they Smith, Like how was that

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Speaker 1: for you? Definitely coming from a school came and not

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Speaker 4: Well, we had a a principle. She used to always

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Speaker 4: be great every day and everything I did that was

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Speaker 4: my standard. Like I just stuck with that. Every day,

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Speaker 4: being the co MVP along with these these some awesome

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Speaker 4: just I just kept telling myself, I have to be great.

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Speaker 1: Q is from the South and he went to school

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Speaker 1: on the West Side. But you in your community, y'all

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Speaker 1: want to stay in the Like, how was that to

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Speaker 1: see your community? Never never had that type of excitement

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Speaker 1: in the basketball area. To how the support was. How

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Speaker 1: y'all travel together your friends in their whole camrockets. That's

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Speaker 1: like a journey, Like that's one, yeah, something that you

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Speaker 4: To have, Like our school gets some recognition all season

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Speaker 4: long from the waterboy on our team was signing autographs

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Speaker 3: It was just it was just really good.

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Speaker 2: Boy, it was really good.

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Speaker 4: Just to see all of us come together to see

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Speaker 4: of really like the fire that kept us going. Like

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Speaker 4: how how big that is for them to see us win,

444
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: and so you know, it just it just made me

445
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 4: want to go even harder knowing that it's a whole

446
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: bunch of people that's that's following me. That's that's inspired

447
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 4: by me to to to play this game of basketball,

448
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 4: and I just wanted to just do it at the

449
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: highest level.

450
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: So who's some of the guys that get you can

451
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: get creditude that kind of with teaching you the discipline

452
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 1: of the game. Like I'm in one of the biggest

453
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: things is like, man, I had to remember that it's

454
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: three three seconds in the paint and I had to

455
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: always mentally remember that, like oh, one, two, get out.

456
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 1: But when I first started playing organized basketball.

457
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 2: You're just always in the paint, Like nah, I can.

458
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: Say, you know what, it's always that. Like, who was

459
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: some of the guys to kind of put that.

460
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 4: Uh well, playing with the Celtics, you know, for aau,

461
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 4: they did an awesome job of really just teaching us

462
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 4: the game from from the bottom all the way up.

463
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: You know, playing with Josh and playing with Randolph, those

464
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: guys really just pushed me, you.

465
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: Know, you know, to the limit.

466
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 4: You know, I'm learning from them because before that, you know,

467
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 4: my school was super small, so we didn't see a

468
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: lot of these people, you know, and me seeing Josh

469
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 4: again cause we started out in kindergarten together, going to

470
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: the same babysitter, and then he moved to the north

471
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: side of Georgia, so I never really saw him until

472
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 4: we started playing AU and so that's how I kind

473
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: of learned how to really, you know, play the game.

474
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 4: So I was very thankful for Josh and Randolph for

475
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 4: really just helping me, you know, understand the.

476
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: Guys in the league that you was looking that was

477
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: above you, that you was looking up, that was already

478
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: in the league. That was like, man, I want that.

479
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: Well he Damar Johnson, Yeah yeah house yeah, So like

480
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 4: he would uh, he came and worked out at my

481
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 4: school one day and I was like, this is my

482
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: test right here, Like I gotta go at him. And

483
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 4: though I'm in the league, and so by playing against him,

484
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, this is the this is my bar,

485
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 4: this is how I get there.

486
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: What grade were you in? The eleventh grade? Going to

487
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 3: twelfth grade?

488
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 2: So it was just two about six nine, six ten,

489
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: skinny bones dudes just going at it. Yeah, I was

490
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: back then. He was. He didn't get big until he

491
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 2: got to the league. When he showed up at tim Grovers,

492
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: he was little and not even able to finish the work.

493
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: That's what was so impressible about how strong it Big

494
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: got because when he showed up to Tim Grove, I

495
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: remember that was like you weren't there that I don't

496
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: know where you you might y'all was out there playing.

497
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah we were playing, but I'm talking about he wasn't

498
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: there when you came. And I remember like asking him,

499
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: like what he was like he wasn't able to you know,

500
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: like because I remember, I'm saying, like he he.

501
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: Go wherever be that way wrong to lift the ball.

502
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: Can't lift the ball lifting this ship when we getting

503
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: on the course like a bus. One of these boys,

504
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: ass man, they can't fuck with me.

505
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: Like the way road.

506
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: Part of it I used to hate because I was

507
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: so much sticking bones and like I didn't understand the

508
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: process of the weight room. I didn't understand how important

509
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: the weight room was and to being the NBA. Like

510
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: I explained to these kids now, like weight room is important,

511
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: Like them little thirty games you play in college or

512
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: high school or little au stuff, that's nothing compared to

513
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: playing these eighty two games. And if you get the

514
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: opportunity to go to a championship, maybe playing one hundred

515
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: and five games.

516
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: How was your pre draft process I'm pretty sure it's

517
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: probably something like kids. You ain't do a whole lot

518
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: of work. Now you said they isn't got wind and dining.

519
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: They want to talk to you. I actually watched out.

520
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: Its not disrespect, it's tell the truth if it's just

521
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: the man, right. Wait, man, I don't want to hear

522
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: about that. Did you actually work out or did you

523
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: have dinners and talk to people? And when you work out?

524
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: Did you work out against anybody? You used to do

525
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: a couple of layups and duncans impression nobody. He didn't

526
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: work out against nobody did like that't.

527
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: Work with nobody.

528
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Chill out. What I'm saying to you is you did

529
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: very few. It was very few. I'm saying I did

530
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: like in the teens, the high teams. I worked low,

531
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: single digits. I worked out against the same He didn't

532
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: work out. He was the number one, you know. He

533
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: was just being taken around, eating steak dinners and doing

534
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: measurements and things like he might flex or something like

535
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: what you were doing.

536
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's when that one.

537
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: I worked out for the magic though, what you.

538
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: Doing full court? One on one?

539
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: Hey on? No, he didn't get anybody magic.

540
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: They had me doing full court work. But we didn't

541
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: work out against anybody.

542
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: What I'm saying had to do like touch the top

543
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: of the backboard, drills and stuff like that.

544
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 2: That was to impress them, not even for him. Like

545
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: no one in the history of a pre draft work

546
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: I has ever been asked to touch the top of

547
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: the backboard because literally people can't do that.

548
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 3: That was for them to be impressed.

549
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: He was special. You know, he's straight out of high school.

550
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: He's special like us. You know, me and him, not you,

551
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: me and him. You know he's special, but you know

552
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: you looking like bro.

553
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: But how was your preciation workouts all the time?

554
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: It's nothing, man, I didn't really do too much. I

555
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 4: did a couple of drills they wanted to see me do,

556
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: like the pick up on one side, dunket other side,

557
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: dunk touch the top at regular basketball.

558
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: This was not a workout you know, daily it was

559
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: heavy balls.

560
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: Let me ask, Let me ask this, when did you

561
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: know like I can go high?

562
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: What game like?

563
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: Was it the McDonald's game, was the Jordan game? Was

564
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: it was just your SI just your whole senior year?

565
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: What you produced? What was your stats? Like your what

566
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: was your status at the end of your senior years.

567
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: What he said his whole senior year, you knew after

568
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: the ENDSGS game business.

569
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: I can't.

570
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: I put in a word. I almost asked you quadruple double.

571
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: But you still didn't know Untiday after the McDonald's game.

572
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: Whatever. But what was your status at the end of

573
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: your senior year?

574
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have a lot of stats.

575
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: I didn't either, like when you want to talk about

576
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: like like points and all that stuff, Like my stats

577
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: was just across the board. Yeah, like I'm an averaging

578
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: thirty or or no, it was that was actually my

579
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: senior year. I was averaging like twenty three twenty four,

580
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: but I was a like thirteen and eight blocks and

581
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: seven assists, and you know about folks steals, you know

582
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know how we do.

583
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: We all don't really sound like that didn't fill.

584
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Up the status shit, you know, but yeah, what was you.

585
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: Know, it was like twenty five like eighteen twenty nineteen rebos.

586
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: That's not a little more impressive.

587
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: Home eighteen nineteen rebound.

588
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy, bro.

589
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: You ain't a rebound like that though, So you don't

590
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: really know what that means, Like, you know, I played

591
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: because it was more short.

592
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I play everybody.

593
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: Running around, you know, I played, I played every position.

594
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Never mind that underwhelm me though, them little high school numbers.

595
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Like we ain't gonna talk about man, because you know

596
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 2: what that was. It yielded things.

597
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

598
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna leave that you went to college to you.

599
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, not like us, the whole college and rebound.

600
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: We're talking about d White interrupting us.

601
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: This is what I want to know when you when

602
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: you got to the joint and you you like, I don't.

603
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: Know when you found out.

604
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: You had to know at some point before your agent

605
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: said something, somebody said something. But when when David Stern

606
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: called that name?

607
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: Tell me what that be?

608
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: Like, that's everybody's dream to walk across that and then

609
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: you got number one, Like that's the Your dream is

610
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: to just get your name called. You you the numean

611
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: road on No don donad No matter what happened forever

612
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: in history, it's gonna be right there, the number one

613
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: top dog out of high school, Like MJ wasn't number one?

614
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: How that feel out of high school? It was just

615
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: really like.

616
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, but I could believe that I

617
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: put it in the work every day. So this is

618
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: what putting in the work got me. I chose to

619
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: get up every morning at four o'clock and uh sprend

620
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: my heel at my house as many times as I

621
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: could till I couldn't run no more. I chose to

622
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: go to the track and work out every day before school.

623
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: You know.

624
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: I chose to train with with uh Deon Glover.

625
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: He was my.

626
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: Trainer me every morning end and I, you know, by

627
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 4: me doing that, it just was like, this is the

628
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 4: hard work paying off.

629
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 3: But it was only like the beginning.

630
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: So I was just thankful, you know that everything that

631
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 4: I manifested.

632
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: By praying, by writing it down, by.

633
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: Looking at it every day, saying I'm going to be

634
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 4: the number one pick, and actually doing all that stuff.

635
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: It was like, man, this is it.

636
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: Man, It's for my family, for all my friends, all

637
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: my teammates, for everybody that has ever crossed my path,

638
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 4: Like this is for everyone.

639
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: I made it here.

640
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't to see your mom and dad like the

641
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: expression on their face, them coming to the draft, them

642
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: having to put the suits on, have to go and

643
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: get the dress, get all jazzed up because you know,

644
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: like when we're young, it's not too many events that

645
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: were getting jazzy up as a family. But like, but

646
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: this draft is like a big event at an early age,

647
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Like how was it to see the happiness on your

648
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: family face from your mom and your dad and what

649
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: they created and built in you to be at this

650
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: point Just to know.

651
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 3: Like with my mom, because she lost seven kids.

652
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she would just always say I was her

653
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 4: miracle child. So just saying a smile and that it

654
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 4: put on her face and the pure joy of like

655
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 4: all that she had went through. It was like this

656
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: moment was for her. Yeah, And you know my dad

657
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 4: just being there being so excited. He hit the table

658
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 4: so hard from excitement, and you know, it's like, man,

659
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: he didn't know any other way to express himself, just

660
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 4: hitting the table as hard as he could. And it's like, man,

661
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 4: just to see them happy, it was like, man, this

662
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: is all everything that life is for just to watch

663
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: my parents be happy like that.

664
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Every time I watch the draft, and I'll be at

665
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: the draft this year on twenty third, Like I always

666
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: think about like did you, like do you think about

667
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: did you think about this when you're going through it?

668
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: Like this is like the moment where everybody in the

669
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 2: history of you knowing them about to see you. You

670
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, It's like people forgot people remember

671
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: you know, like they like people didn't know anybody know you?

672
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: Like that's like you like you like because I can remember.

673
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Like that was one of the things I thought when

674
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: I was going across the stage eighteen pick. I'm like, Yo,

675
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: don't trip number one, don't fall like on trip because

676
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: like literally your whole world is seeing this right now,

677
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: like anybody that you ever ever you like, what does

678
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: that feel like when you're thinking about that? Because like

679
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: for me, I was like, be cool. Yeah, what I'm saying,

680
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 2: you gotta be you know what I'm saying, you gotta

681
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: be playa But like that was really one of the

682
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: thoughts I had, Like when I was on a little

683
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 2: ramp going up to go shake his hand, I was like, bro, like,

684
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: this is it like.

685
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 3: The world see you?

686
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: They didn't like It's like it's like a moment in time,

687
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: Like how did that feel?

688
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, like, as I'm walking up, how do I

689
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 4: shake his hand?

690
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: I do like a homeboy handshake. Don't don't do like him?

691
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: He did a homeboy handshaking grabb David about.

692
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 3: No, I cannot make.

693
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: You.

694
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Gotta give you a hood hug.

695
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, Like this man, like ain't

696
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 7: the same thing? Like I've been wanting to meet you

697
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 7: for so long.

698
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I understand you.

699
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I really was thinking like what should I

700
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 4: do in that moment and like don't fall walk, but

701
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: just being grateful like man, I'm so blessed to be

702
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: able to shake this man hand like that's just an

703
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: amazing feeling.

704
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm really in the league.

705
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Like we watched so many you know, my heroes before

706
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: us do that. That's what makes that moment what it is.

707
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: And you know, now for the young fellas, it's for

708
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: Adam Seelver, be for us like I watched David Stern

709
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: called Michael Jordan name and eighty four. We nene seen it,

710
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: like bro, like to get up there and get a

711
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,280
Speaker 2: chance to be like yeah, and now it's my time, Like, boy,

712
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: the world about to see me with this five right here, boy,

713
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: you gotta be.

714
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: Cool, as a fan told me be cool, because yeah,

715
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: tell you here's all right, because you gotta take the picture.

716
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: He all playing and ship I'm like, look, I don't know.

717
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a question.

718
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: I want to know that we ain't never ask nobody

719
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: this when you got called, because for me and him,

720
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: it was crazy because like Chrisa, my man call Rory Sparrow.

721
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: Those are the people that like when you get called,

722
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: they right there the picture.

723
00:36:58,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: But she's not one of them people.

724
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Lia Is like you know, but like no, she part

725
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: of that definitely, but like them people there was like

726
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: like always, especially like Chrisa, because she was the one

727
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: that like she was the one that when they she

728
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: was right there, you know, all right now yeah, but

729
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: come on now, we gotta come on, like hug, mama, hug.

730
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: We can't do everybody like you know what I'm saying,

731
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: like in hindsight, how important are those people to our

732
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: careers and what we do? And like I say that

733
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: because we you we meet them so early. You don't

734
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: realize that the ones that are lucky is the ones

735
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: that you know, we raised right, we just treated with

736
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: respect in the right way because we was raised that way.

737
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: We don't even know the equity were putting in and

738
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: the people were putting the equity into until like for

739
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: us the end, we get to see the fruits of it.

740
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: Because they help you. But like, for you, what is that?

741
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: What do those people mean to you at this point

742
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 2: without them, you know, certain situations and.

743
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 4: Learning through being in the NBA. Without having them, you know,

744
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: were hurt, you know, because they have done so much,

745
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: they have so many for all of us. Really, you know,

746
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 4: they're like our mom and dads away from home. You know,

747
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 4: the way that they care for us. You know, it's

748
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: a very special bond that you developed with each and

749
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: every single one of those people, and you go through

750
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: life and then when you see them, you don't even

751
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 4: really have to say too much. You can just look

752
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 4: at each other and smile, like, man, I appreciate you,

753
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: you know, just for just being you. Because you know,

754
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: when you playing in the leave for so long, you

755
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 4: run across so many people, and then you know those

756
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: people that really stick out are the same people that

757
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 4: was there in the beginning real you know, Kevin, CHRISA, Rory,

758
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: Hey Leah. You know they were there in the beginning,

759
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: you know, and then you see like they'll always be

760
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 4: there for everybody, So it's good.

761
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was it like when you first got to Orlando?

762
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: You the number one pick? You fly into the city

763
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: and you do all of that. How what was that

764
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: like for you?

765
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: Have you ever spent time in Florida before that? Never

766
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: was the first time the world and everything?

767
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: Never did none of this stuff? He trust trust me.

768
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: He thoved face first in the Disney World that ship.

769
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: I gotta ask, what was that like when you first? Like?

770
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: Did they I know that? Well, of course they flew

771
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 3: you private, Like was that.

772
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Your first time on a private plane and everything?

773
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: Actually, they flew me into the the regular airport. When

774
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: I came in, it was like people there and it

775
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: was you know, talking to me private.

776
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: Let him know. We flew into l a You don't

777
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: saying l A X like Biggie say on the pot

778
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: on the on the song with going in l A X.

779
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: We we flew straight and we was making fake phone

780
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: calling nobody to call.

781
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 3: We was using the phone on the plane. We got in.

782
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: We stayed at the hotel, Alarmatize with Jo Rud did

783
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: the Living It Up video. You couldn't tell us a

784
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: damn thing.

785
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: You hear me, You.

786
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: Can't tell us nothing. That's tough. But you know you

787
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: flew regular, so go ahead continue.

788
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 4: It was really my first time like coming down to Orlando.

789
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: So getting out the plane, they had the limo service

790
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 4: for us and everything. So I'm like, man, this is it. Man,

791
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 4: I'm in. I'm in the NBA. So everywhere I was going,

792
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: you know, he was like, welcome to Orlando. First thing

793
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: I wanted to do was go to the movies because

794
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: I'm on the eighteen, so that was like my thing.

795
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 4: And then I ended up finding about Universal Studios CityWalk

796
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: and that was it. They used to call me CityWalk.

797
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't leave city Walk. I was always going either

798
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 4: to get on the rise or go to the movies,

799
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 4: get some food.

800
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: So I was like, man, this is like there is

801
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: we frequenting city Walk out in La University.

802
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 3: We used to be up in there jont for real.

803
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was just like all I could do.

804
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 4: I didn't know nothing about, you know, going out to

805
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 4: the night clubs or nothing like that, so that was

806
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 4: my nightclub, just coming out to CityWalk.

807
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 2: How was it for you when you first hit training camp?

808
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: You had coach Brian Hill. I work with coach Brian Hill.

809
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: For everybody out there, working with coach Brian Hill can

810
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: be kind of scary. He don't play, he not with

811
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: no shit he could tell he all old school and

812
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: he down to it, but like he know his shit too,

813
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: he didn't. He's accomplis with he's accomplished and he's turning

814
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: who he's turned into players, So you gotta respect that.

815
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 2: But like legit, when I joined the Magic Broadcast, I

816
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: was kind of like, oh, okay, you know that, Like

817
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: Coach Hill over here and me and him kind of

818
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: share split time. So it's like, how was that for you?

819
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: Going into training camp? You go from a high schooler

820
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: to like this this this og like he had shack,

821
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 2: he had all a pin and all limit. Then he

822
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: come in he hard court here, he a real g

823
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: Like how was that for you?

824
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 4: I ain't know how to act. I was like, bro,

825
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: it's a lot, man, but I'm so young, Like I'm like, man,

826
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 4: I just want to go out here and who but

827
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 4: these two days it's tough.

828
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: Like coach he'll be in shape. Coach he'll be on

829
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 2: the fred milland bike.

830
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: He in shape, yeah, and shape, and his team gonna

831
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: be So we're playing with bow outlaw, one.

832
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: Man, press man, nicest guy, nice guy in the world,

833
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: one nice guy in the world we.

834
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 2: Play against and listen we played listen introducing the bow

835
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: outlaw was long beat something we didn't play some league

836
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: our rookie year coming in. We played after our rookie

837
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: year at Long Beach in LA. This was a free

838
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: like bo was like the leader or captain of a

839
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: free agent team.

840
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: Man and one man pressed.

841
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 2: He had to average thirty and he got thirty point

842
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: trip with double one man press going crazy and he's.

843
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: Shooting the tray ball.

844
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Everything nice in the world.

845
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: Man this day, but he was, I would say, Man,

846
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 4: when we was growing up watching y'all too doing this

847
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: all the time like that was like we had. I

848
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: had two guys at my school and they adore y'all

849
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: and they everybody wore the head man because of y'all.

850
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. And doing this, I couldn't really.

851
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let me shoot threes, you know what I'm saying,

852
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 4: But when I did, I was always throw it up,

853
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So, you know, I just

854
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 4: want to thank y'all. This may be, this may not. Maybe.

855
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 2: This is one hundred and absol literally the most dominant

856
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: big player I've ever played with who desired to do

857
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: little guy ship, get you well, like he wanted to

858
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 2: shoot three so bad standing be like I could shoot

859
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: then and be up. He'll be in the pass, shoot

860
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 2: corner three and all this ship staying.

861
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: And now he will yeah yeah.

862
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: And he's sitting here like like after he did all

863
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: his work he taught, he asked, so he do all

864
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: this shit he's supposed to.

865
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: He want to do something and shoot three.

866
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: Everybody walking plasts like look at this jackass, like why

867
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: and he like he got got the ball man, got

868
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: the coach working. We did all this ship. So you

869
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: can't say nothing. But he used to want to shoot three.

870
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: Like when I saw that man make just like cause

871
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: you see what's going on now.

872
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: Definitely you called it out. I said, you was like, man,

873
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm finished, start spreading down shooting three. Then you called

874
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: it out.

875
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: If you don't shoot three is what they putting your ass.

876
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 3: Ain't even let you put on the bench.

877
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, So I wondered, now I can really, you know,

878
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,959
Speaker 4: shoot a little bit. I don't know if you ain't

879
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 4: let me shoot back then, but now I got a

880
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 4: spray ball. I'm telling you.

881
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: Your rookie year, you you play all a two games.

882
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: I know I played. I played all a two games.

883
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: And I was a little exhausted at the at the

884
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: end of it. How was it for you to go

885
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: through your rookie year to be, you know, all rookie

886
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: team and have the success that you actually had on

887
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: this level and you're the.

888
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: First player to go straight out of high school to

889
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: play all eighty two games in his first season. Yeah.

890
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I missed one because he benched me

891
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: for some reason. I went in that crying told me

892
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: that hold up though I ain't never been benched, but

893
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: that's another story. But yeah, like how was it for you? Like,

894
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: I know, like after that, they tell you about the

895
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: rookie wall. They tell you like, hey, if you ain't

896
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: taking care of your buy, if you ain't eating right,

897
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 1: you can run into that rookie raw Like how was

898
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: it for you to go through all a two and

899
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: just see where you was at it?

900
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: Then?

901
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: I was tired. But I had a stremp coach in Orlando.

902
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: His name was Mickey crazy crazy guy. Yeah it was

903
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: before Rogo and he would not stay off me. He

904
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 4: made sure I lifted, he made sure I ate right,

905
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: And I appreciate him because he really like set the

906
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: tone for me and the rest of my career as

907
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: far as yes, yes, he made sure I stayed in

908
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: the gym. And it was one day where I was

909
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 4: tired and I ain't really feel like lifting, and I

910
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 4: was messing around with my teammates and he came and

911
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: popped me in the chest and he.

912
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: Was like, Dwight, what the fuck are you doing?

913
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: You know you're supposed to be in the gym.

914
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 4: And I was like, you know what, I really respect him,

915
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 4: as I asked him, yo, if I'm not doing what

916
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 4: I was supposed to do, whoop my ass and make

917
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 4: sure I do it. And he really did it. He

918
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 4: made sure I got in the gym. So it was like, man,

919
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: I really appreciate him, and I'm gonna make sure that

920
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: I do everything in the gym the right way because

921
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 4: he care enough to where he could have just said, oh,

922
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 4: this guy, you know, I'm gonna let him go, but

923
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 4: he really came and hit me with like we.

924
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: Had got when I came in. I was like, man,

925
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: I ain't going to that gym.

926
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: Was like you would you say? That's when you kind

927
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: of like when did the flip? Did the switch flip?

928
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Because I know by the time I got there it

929
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: was religious.

930
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: I love working out when did you turn to a superhero?

931
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: When you start, I'm talking about you ain't never seen

932
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: nobody else was like when.

933
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: Did it click in his mind?

934
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: And it was like okay, not only I get it now,

935
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, Like I get what

936
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: I'm doing because like I'm trust me. By the time

937
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: I got there wasn't no questions asked.

938
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 3: But like at that point he was in his joy.

939
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: He could laugh for joke and bed white and be silly,

940
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: but like, bitch, I'm still lifting his whole weight room.

941
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: I ain't listen, no.

942
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 2: Sex, and I'm still playing between but like this work

943
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: is relentless and like switch and click in like no,

944
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: that was he was an action figure. He was an

945
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: action figure. I would say.

946
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 4: Man playing against Eddie Curry one.

947
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: Year Anthony when he was in New York. Yeah, I

948
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 2: said this on the record that year that Zeke came

949
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: in and told everybody on the team and everybody in

950
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: front of Eddie like he the ship that man had,

951
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, we could look it up, google

952
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 2: it whatever, but I don't know how many twenty point

953
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: games straight he had. He was making big fellas disappear.

954
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: Bro He that was the most confident Eddie ever played

955
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 2: in his career. He said it hisself, like, you think

956
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: on the team wrong? Was you know he was violent?

957
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

958
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: But I think when it was both of them, that's

959
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 4: when I was like, man, I got you caught that,

960
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 4: You caught that old him.

961
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: And then if he come in and hold him again, yeah, and.

962
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 3: You got Jerome on the day where he was on

963
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: he wanted.

964
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 4: To play man. He was already mad at Darko. I

965
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 4: mean like Darko and Darko was on my team. So

966
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: he was like, I'm trying to kill Darko militant and

967
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 4: so he was out there going, hey, I'm sorry, young fella,

968
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 4: but I got to kill him.

969
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: So I was like, that's a big fellow would definitely

970
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: turned up.

971
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: I want to ask you just like since you got

972
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: in the league, you've been putting in a lot of work.

973
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 1: You was doing a lot, and I don't feel like

974
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: it was really getting appreciated until you beat Lebron in

975
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs when everybody wanted Lebron Kobe to play, Like

976
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: how was like, like how was that? Because like I

977
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: know that was like I know, y'all didn't win the

978
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: championship and all that, like that season that that the outcoming.

979
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, Orlando knew the white Florida

980
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: New d White, but the world and another in a

981
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: different place looked at you kind of different. And you

982
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: had to beat Lebron to get to that point.

983
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 4: Was pissed off because we felt disrespected, like y'all just

984
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: gonna act like the magic don't exist. Like we beating everybody.

985
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: We even beat the Cavaliers in the regular season. Y'all

986
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 4: can't just write us off like this. And they made

987
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 4: commercials and yeah, they had the puppet commercials and to

988
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 4: our fans was mad about it. They made me a puppet,

989
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 4: so I had I still got the puppet at the

990
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 4: crib now, but I had me a puppet. I'm bringing

991
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: it to the gym, like hold on, now, hey, we

992
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 4: the magic still here. So just that series of going

993
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 4: against them, it was like, now we want everybody to

994
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 4: know who the magic is. Because when I first got

995
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: to Orlando, they was calling us the Orlando Tragic. People

996
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 4: weren't taking our team serious. They was laughing at us

997
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. Yeah that is, yeah, but I

998
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: ain't like that and.

999
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: You'll change.

1000
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we ain't Manngaeer. We ain't really like that,

1001
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 4: and we it was really like our mission to uh

1002
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: win the title and let people know who the magic was.

1003
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: And I felt like we did that. How how was

1004
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 3: it for you?

1005
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: And you you get to you know, your first two years,

1006
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: you playing a rookie Challenge and you get to go

1007
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: to All Star. Wee getting for those things. Third you

1008
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: made the big game? Like, how was it for that?

1009
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: Like you walking in there and you and that, you

1010
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. You see your lock and you

1011
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: see the Lebrons, all of these people that you grew up.

1012
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You you here, you wanted them? Now,

1013
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: Like what did that feel like when you when you

1014
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 2: got announced? You know, they come on T and T

1015
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: and you only where you are, you sitting in the

1016
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: create like you feeling it.

1017
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: You like only that, but you see how the fans

1018
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: are voting for you, Like people don't don't.

1019
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 3: Feel this year he was a reserve.

1020
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: I want to get to. I know that you let the.

1021
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: Whole when I was there. That's when I'm looking on Jones, Jone, Joe,

1022
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: you gotta talk about that now. I just want to know,

1023
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: like what that first one that when you first get

1024
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 2: there you like you know what I'm saying, like because

1025
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 2: like you like you say, this is one of those moments.

1026
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: This is one of those surreal joints where all right

1027
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: now I'm walking in you got older. You know, I

1028
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 2: didn't seen the gear bags for your Like You're seeing

1029
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: all this and you seeing the others joy Like what

1030
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: if that feel like walking into that room and seeing

1031
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 2: your company that you like, I'm one of them now.

1032
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: Like a kid in a candy store, I'm like, man,

1033
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 4: this is this Kobe over here, you know, just you know,

1034
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 4: a I with Jason Kidd, Kevin Garnett. I'm like all

1035
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 4: these guys that I've watched growing up. I'm actually the

1036
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 4: same locker room with them, so, you know, trying not.

1037
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: To freak out because.

1038
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 4: During the season, like I'm trying to dunk on them

1039
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 4: and do all this stuff.

1040
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, man, what do I do?

1041
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: But it's like these are the people that I grew

1042
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 4: up watching, Like this is an amazing feeling to just

1043
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 4: sit here in these guys' presence and to see how

1044
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 4: they are, you know, away from the court. You know

1045
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: how they get ready for games, you know how they

1046
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 4: interact with like the trainers, and all the other people

1047
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: in the locker room. You know, I was really just

1048
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: taking it all in, like, man, this is what it's

1049
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 4: like to be an All Star, Like to have David

1050
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: Stern come in there and talk to you. You get

1051
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 4: all this gear, You're trying to figure out what kind

1052
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 4: of socks you want to put on, how you're gonna

1053
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:56,959
Speaker 4: look in the mirror.

1054
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: And your shoot your shoot people since.

1055
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 2: You shoes, man, So that whole experience.

1056
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: You know, I just kept saying, like, man, I gotta

1057
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 4: stay humble because man, like this is crazy. I get

1058
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 4: all this stuff, man, from just playing basketball.

1059
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 3: So how was it for you after that?

1060
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: Moving on that season, y'all make y'all first playoff swept up?

1061
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: But like, how was that Detroit? Yeah? The boys?

1062
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 4: So if that was really like an eye opener.

1063
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 2: Like playing against Rashid and all them.

1064
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 4: Like this is what it takes to be a champion,

1065
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 4: And I was. I studied Detroit after that, Like what

1066
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 4: do I need to do as an individual two to

1067
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 4: be a Rashid on the court, to be an Antonio

1068
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 4: mc dice, You know, how how can I use my

1069
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 4: athleticism and and my demeanor to be a problem? Like

1070
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 4: how they was because I'm watching Ben Wallace. He ain't

1071
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: really touching the basketball.

1072
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: But he all the rebounds. Yeah.

1073
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 4: Then Rashid he talking ship but he called me at

1074
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 4: the same time. And then Tonio he just going crazy,

1075
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: but he doing all the little shit, getting all the rebounds,

1076
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 4: doing all that stuff, and it was like they was

1077
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 4: all cohesive, one unit. And they flowed with Chauncey and

1078
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 4: tay Shaun and Rip and it's like they was a

1079
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: real unit. So I was like, man, this is the

1080
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 4: blueprint print right here. And I felt like in Orlando

1081
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: we had got so close to having that same blueprint

1082
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: and winning.

1083
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: What do Jami or Rashard and hetl mean to you?

1084
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: Man?

1085
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 4: I was just so hurt that I had to that

1086
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: we left each other. Man, like coming in with you mirror.

1087
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: I watched him in high school and we end up

1088
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 4: being we end up being together for the Natesmith Awards,

1089
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: and we end up being teammates together. And he had

1090
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: me speak at his dad's funeral, you know what I'm saying.

1091
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 4: So it was like we had got so close together

1092
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 4: and it was like, Man, I could talk and tell

1093
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: jam or anything in my life. And then Rashad he

1094
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 4: became like my big brother. So you got him and

1095
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 4: then you got Shaking Baker his best friend. And so

1096
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 4: between Shaking Bak and Sweet Lou, you know, we was

1097
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 4: always together that you add in hto. You know, HEO

1098
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 4: was like the funny one, but you wouldn't know how

1099
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 4: funny he was.

1100
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

1101
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: He is like when we first got draft. You know,

1102
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: you go to draft and re combound all that transition,

1103
00:56:55,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: you got the breakout groups, right, Turk couldn't speak.

1104
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: Bro at the time.

1105
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: At the time English like zero like, so it's like

1106
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 2: we in the breakout group. It's me Turk and I

1107
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: can't remember everybody else about one hundred percent, remember Mateen

1108
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: Cleves and Schoony Bro. Every single time Turk went to

1109
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: say one word before he said anything, before before they

1110
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: could even laugh, before he could even must up work,

1111
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: he would be like like you know how he's trying

1112
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: to figure out like like audibly say he was like

1113
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: as soon as he would start and he was struggling

1114
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: to fix Schoony Pin following me like ridiculously rabbled. I

1115
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: will literally never in my life forget that they was.

1116
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,439
Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, like was like all right,

1117
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 2: you know like because he like he was laughing and

1118
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: he was cool with it, and when he got it,

1119
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: he was cool. But like, I will never ever forget

1120
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: think because my team is going they was, they was,

1121
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 2: and you like, you know Turk intimately, you know he's

1122
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: sick with it, so like he was cool, but he

1123
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I want to play. I want to

1124
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: Like it was crazy because it was like me in

1125
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: the moment, I'm feeling like God, damn that killed him

1126
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: and he can't get it.

1127
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, crazy, But like Turk.

1128
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: To this day, hey, hey, hey, you know is uh

1129
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 2: I can't play no early games with Turk.

1130
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: Talking about it on national TV.

1131
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: If Turk play early game, you can't into the second half.

1132
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 3: Been like, look.

1133
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: What what what makes you get in the dunk contest?

1134
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: Because you know in dunk contest they say the tall

1135
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: the taller you are, the more more less likely for

1136
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: you to win.

1137
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: I hated people saying that we couldn't jump and couldn't dump.

1138
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was like, man, I.

1139
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 4: Gotta really go into my bag to show people like

1140
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 4: we could do this.

1141
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1142
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 4: And I always wanted to be in the dunk contest

1143
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: and after my mom told me don't do it. I

1144
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 4: was like, man, I can't not do dunk contests, man,

1145
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 4: Like I'm always doing them at home, always.

1146
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: At the gym doing them.

1147
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: And the year I did the Superman dunk and all

1148
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: those dunks, I practiced him for like two years and

1149
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 4: got them downpack and I said, Okay, it's time for

1150
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 4: the dunk contest.

1151
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1152
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: How was that for you though? To like this your

1153
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: second All Star? You know what I'm saying. And when

1154
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 2: you actually when you actually won, like what did that

1155
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: feel like?

1156
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: Like?

1157
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: Not? Well, both actually in the moment when you get

1158
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: up there and you hold the truck, because that's something

1159
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: we all dreamed about. But for you too, because you're

1160
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 2: in a different generation. When you get out of the

1161
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: dunk contests and you see social media, you see the response, like,

1162
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Because you a big fella

1163
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 2: like you had, you had a shine and a likability

1164
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: to you did not many big fellas enjoyed popular like

1165
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 2: like I tell people all the time, like I was there.

1166
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: I watched this motherfucker out vote Lebron, Kobe and etcetera.

1167
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 3: In the All Star game beat everybody. You got god milk.

1168
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: Unders and you had a fucking music album where you

1169
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: recorded songs like and this bitch had a number one album.

1170
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: Bro, he's singing kids songs?

1171
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: Bro, Like like what does like that level of popularity?

1172
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: Talk about that?

1173
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 3: Monks the world? Like you know what I'm saying, Like

1174
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: that's some how you.

1175
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: Going platinum and kids?

1176
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 2: And he got like like time out, like real.

1177
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: Platinum and kid you're going like Drake.

1178
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: Got like like you mad like a real kids say

1179
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: that like he could like bullshit if you won't platinum

1180
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: album whatever it is, he sold that ship out like

1181
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 2: I'll never forget when it Remember when I asked you

1182
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: to show me the album you got kids?

1183
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: I got here.

1184
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 2: They played an arena every game.

1185
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 4: They did every game they did me, they did every game.

1186
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: How you go platinum and experience?

1187
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: Hear me? It was man, it was just a real

1188
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 2: umbling experience.

1189
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: And he was really thinking about it. I mean basketball

1190
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: players when platinum, I.

1191
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: Don't give a damn he nobody he was real singing.

1192
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 4: It was man, It was really was just it wasn't

1193
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 4: in the dunk contest I put Uh. My favorite scripture

1194
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: has always been I can do all things strengthens me,

1195
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 4: and that's always been my model. Whatever I do in life.

1196
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 4: You can do all things you just put your mind

1197
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: to it and you really believe. And when they asked

1198
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 4: me about doing the album, you know, I was like,

1199
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 4: you know what I could do, and I can do everything.

1200
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: I really put my mind to it.

1201
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: They couldn't have solved me. They couldn't have sold me

1202
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: that DM.

1203
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: Mile And I'm like, but why not? But why not

1204
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: just be like, you know what?

1205
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 3: Why not? You only get one?

1206
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 6: My My thing is you only die, You only die once,

1207
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 6: and you live every day, so you're gonna live.

1208
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: Man, just live.

1209
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: So I'm going purchase on iTunes. You singing right now,

1210
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: right now, right? I got the album somewhere. I got

1211
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: a physical album somewhere.

1212
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 2: To contribute, can't I can't call it still bron't like

1213
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: you like you like dunking over? I got it like

1214
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 2: this album somewhere right now to make sure you still

1215
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: like Hey, go stream that Dwight Howard. I'm telling it's

1216
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: already platting you trying to go ten twenty times. I'm

1217
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 2: gonna make that thing in n f T. I got

1218
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: the physical album somewhere. I'm telling you, I could like

1219
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: tell me this that same year all NBA first team.

1220
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 2: That mean you basically top five in the NBA best center,

1221
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: whatever your position is, you the best, Like, how did

1222
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 2: that register? How did did you understand that you did?

1223
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: All of that hit you at that time when you

1224
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: were too young to really know what.

1225
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 3: Was going too young to really understand. That's like, that's

1226
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: like that was probably like the biggest thing from.

1227
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: Coming out of high school. Do you still feel it

1228
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: still felt local instead of international?

1229
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 2: You got, yeah, I really didn't understand.

1230
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 3: He wasn'tister.

1231
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 4: There's times where like even at my house and it.

1232
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 3: Was all defensive second team. You was all NBA first.

1233
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 4: Defensive second team, and I really walk around and I

1234
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 4: look at our pictures, you know what I'm saying that

1235
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 4: the teams, and I'm like, man, like this is so

1236
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 4: long ago, like it doesn't even register, like all the

1237
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 4: things I have to go back and say, this is amazing,

1238
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 4: Like this is this is some crazy stuff.

1239
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: So when did you know in the league that you

1240
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: know you was dominating and like you like because like

1241
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: I said, like I feel like that that lebron See

1242
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: was to come out part of it. But real Hoopers

1243
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: know what you was bringing to the table. Like the

1244
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: casual fan don't know the real hoop ship.

1245
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Say you felt dominant when

1246
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: you got that that you was the youngest dude to

1247
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: be the defensive player of the year that year, Say like,

1248
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 2: I will.

1249
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: Feel like like dominant in this in this league, Like, man,

1250
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: these folks can't.

1251
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 4: Fucking me like that. Everything seemed like it's starting to

1252
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 4: slow down. And I was able to like understand, like

1253
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 4: I could use my power here and then my speed

1254
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 4: and certain in certain aspects, and then on defenses, like

1255
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 4: nobody is going to score on me if they come

1256
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 4: to the basket.

1257
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's the way I

1258
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: looked at it.

1259
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 4: On defense, like I always tell my teammates and Q know,

1260
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 4: I tell him, don't file lead your man to the basket,

1261
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 4: just put your hands up. I got if I'm in

1262
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 4: the paint, I'm gonna come here.

1263
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: I used to cuss guards out for that ship.

1264
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 3: Why are you following him?

1265
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: I haven't see me coming.

1266
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: I have sat up. I have a story about that.

1267
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: It's two with you saying that because number two, our

1268
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: first two years, you weren't there yet. You wasn't you know,

1269
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 2: telling people don't do that. I was you know you wasn't.

1270
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't telling people, But I was like.

1271
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 3: You wasn't telling people. It wasn't there yet.

1272
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: You wasn't. It wasn't that you ain't had your windshield

1273
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 2: while you wasn't there yet. Look, I was black and

1274
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: you wasn't saying that ship. I wasn't saying about you

1275
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: quiet of the church. Now I'm saying I wasn't saying

1276
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 2: talk like that.

1277
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 3: Now.

1278
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: To his credit, when I got to him, I had

1279
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: to change my game. You know, I was used to

1280
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: like I was people. And this is another part where

1281
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: you could loop him into the I got all the

1282
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 2: hardest players. He did.

1283
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: I got it.

1284
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 2: Did he did?

1285
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 4: He did.

1286
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: Let the man talk talk first, go ahead, he got

1287
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: the floor, not you, he did. He did.

1288
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 4: He did with when we played Lebron, leg every time

1289
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 4: we play Lebron, he was.

1290
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: Shadow.

1291
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 2: He was He was really our best. He was our

1292
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: best defender on these big gos.

1293
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: What that don't you would?

1294
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 2: I know you?

1295
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: No, dude, No, dude, there wasn't getting no rebound.

1296
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: I know you play with dude.

1297
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 2: I mean.

1298
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: That boy don't guard nobody. He was guarded ever in

1299
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: his life.

1300
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: You heard what he just said.

1301
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: He was guarded.

1302
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: I promise you heard what he just said.

1303
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 2: I promise you.

1304
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to conduct world.

1305
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: This should put his bullship joke. He always trying to

1306
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: talk about.

1307
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: That because you got a defensive player that you're telling me,

1308
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: what's the player you're telling you.

1309
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 3: That I was on all of them. I was that dude.

1310
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: I was everybody I know scoring on Q. When they

1311
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: saying that, I didn't.

1312
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 3: Say nobody didn't score on me.

1313
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 4: When we now Lebron get buckets. He was really like,

1314
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 4: he didn't stop Lebron. He was sitting down.

1315
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: Cut that ship out. Now, he didn't stop. Know Lebron,

1316
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: you got he had help because you was behind him.

1317
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: But he before he started to hate.

1318
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: Like I said, when I came to the team, I

1319
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: was used to I was used to finish for myself.

1320
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 2: If somebody give me, I'm about to fuck him up.

1321
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 2: And he know I didn't did it, and I'm sucking

1322
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: as I'm fucking him up. I see the solar eclipse

1323
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 2: come over, yelled at me after I did, like the

1324
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: whole team staying yelling at me.

1325
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 3: God damn it. Don't like he gonna get it. He

1326
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 3: gonna get let me.

1327
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: He don't be there. I don't know how long it took,

1328
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: but I figured it out. I started okay, and he

1329
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 2: didn't watch the cloud go by, like look, it was

1330
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: a solar eclipse, like you see something like oh.

1331
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,959
Speaker 3: My god, this coming on the top. Two hands, one hand,

1332
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: double block, and I'm like, okay, I'm cool now, like

1333
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:07,919
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But it took.

1334
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: It was a learning curve for me because I had

1335
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 2: you was that early? You done not at so I

1336
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 2: hadn't had that yet. I was like, wait a minute, okay,

1337
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: we for real good. We gotta reject the protector down here.

1338
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 2: I told you I was on record for saying, look,

1339
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: I could be as aggressive as if I fucking want to.

1340
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 2: This makes my job a lot easier because now if

1341
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: I get beat, it's like it's a safety net back then,

1342
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 2: real safety. Now, I ain't got worried about like if

1343
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 2: I do too much and get blown by, it ain't

1344
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 2: nobody dunking that hole like it's getting altered at the

1345
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,879
Speaker 2: very least, if it ain't getting swaated, it's getting changed.

1346
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: I was cool with that. I could go bump his man,

1347
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 2: get a rebound or something. But I know I got

1348
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 2: some coverage if I get.

1349
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 1: Beat, you know, when I knew it was like it

1350
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: was seriously a problem the lob you called against san

1351
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 1: Antonio for game, Like, I'm like, like, first of all,

1352
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: san Antonio, don't get disrespected like that, san Antonio. They

1353
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: you're looking at them and they playing on Lando Magic, Like, yeah, that's.

1354
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 2: An easy win from them.

1355
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: So I actually watched that game and I'm peeping that game,

1356
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, he called a lib on san Antonio

1357
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: for game. The league isn't the problem because we like,

1358
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: he really unstoppable, He really got a he really is

1359
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 1: a problem down there, and they got a tend for it.

1360
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: And then when they surround you by shooters, did y'all

1361
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: feel like y'all can win that championship against Kobe?

1362
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, we did because during the season we actually were

1363
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: beating them.

1364
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: What do you think they went wrong? It was it

1365
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: was more experienced than it was. Like how you see

1366
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors right now, you see the Golden

1367
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: State Warriors.

1368
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 4: Kobey Ship, we.

1369
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: Know that, but you know, like gold State Warrior, I

1370
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 1: feel like some of the stuff that they had problems

1371
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,560
Speaker 1: in it was just the inexperience.

1372
01:09:59,360 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 3: That is true.

1373
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 2: We was not experienced, stopped.

1374
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: Doing what they was doing the whole playoffs.

1375
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 3: That's true. That was a part of it.

1376
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: And then the fact that you got Kobe, you got

1377
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 4: Lamar Oldham, you got Pole Gasol Andrew buying them, Derrick Fisher,

1378
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 4: Trevor knocking down all the threes, he was not missing.

1379
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 4: It was just like it was their time, like our

1380
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 4: time had expired. Like we got to a certain point

1381
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 4: where you know, it was like yeah, and then they

1382
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 4: weren't missing those shots. And then there was one shot.

1383
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 4: Kobe got the ball. I jumped up, he went up,

1384
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 4: went between my arms, came back to the other side

1385
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 4: and laid it up all in mid air, and I'm like,

1386
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: you know what, it's just their time, Like it ain't

1387
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 4: nothing I conna do.

1388
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: Like we did everything we could, but it was just

1389
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 3: their time.

1390
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: Just to see that though, like you know, you're young,

1391
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: your first experienced to see how you know, the conference

1392
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: finals is big. You looking at the conference finals like

1393
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: this shit crazy. You just finished playing Lebron. This ship

1394
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: is a big deal. It can't get no bigger than

1395
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,600
Speaker 1: this conference finals against me and against Lebron. Then you

1396
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: get to the finals and man ship they got this

1397
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: much money, Like they got this much money, everything shut

1398
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 1: down like that.

1399
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was crazy.

1400
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: How is the difference between that? Cause I was just

1401
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: wondering that, Like, man, you see because you see the

1402
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: conference finals, especially for you, like like like I said,

1403
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: they got they got commercials with them as puppets, like

1404
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: they the two biggest things in the league. And you

1405
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: play a conference finals against Lebron and how Orlando and

1406
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,960
Speaker 1: Cleveland transformed for this like it's the finals and then

1407
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: you realize there's more money out there, Like no, the

1408
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 1: finals is a whole.

1409
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 3: It's a whole different beast. Yeah, yeah, how.

1410
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: Is that to see that?

1411
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 4: Just just saying who was playing against across the court,

1412
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 4: like knowing like the organization in there. Yeah, it's like, okay,

1413
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 4: this is it. It's the top of the top, like

1414
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 4: we made it. And I just think that they just

1415
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 4: they just knew how to really win and we just

1416
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 4: didn't have that. We didn't We wasn't there yet. Yeah,

1417
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 4: but I feel like if we would have just had

1418
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 4: more time together, we probably would have we could have

1419
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 4: had a dynasty, you know down here in Orlando.

1420
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: How was it for you like after losing that, right,

1421
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: like you said, y'all young. Did you feel like, oh no,

1422
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: we coming back, We coming right back?

1423
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1424
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: I did.

1425
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 4: I felt that way, and I was so pissed, like

1426
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,520
Speaker 4: when we lost me and jamyr Set and watched them celebrate,

1427
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 4: and I was like, bro, we never gonna feel this

1428
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 4: pain again. Like, let's take a couple of weeks off

1429
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 4: and get in the gym and get right back to

1430
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 4: making sure we get here because I don't want to

1431
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: feel this no more. This hurt too bad. Look at

1432
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: our fansts, like, look at our families. Everybody hurt, Like

1433
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 4: we can't experience this no more.

1434
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 3: How was it that that following year for you to

1435
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 3: like that show?

1436
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 2: Second straight NBA Defensive Player of the Year was basically

1437
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: the first player. Yeah, he was definitely All NBA third

1438
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 2: All Star, but the defensive Player of the Year. And

1439
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 2: then he was the first player in the league to

1440
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 2: lead the league and blocks in and rebounds in the

1441
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 2: same season twice, and he had did it two years

1442
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: in a row. So like you're doing unmentionables, you know

1443
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, back to back season, So like when

1444
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 2: you get to that point, it's like, you know what

1445
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like this one is really bubbling. It's like

1446
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 2: what you know what I'm saying, Like greatness is being

1447
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: talked about because you're doing things that nobody has never done.

1448
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 2: Like what does that feel like after getting a second

1449
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: straight Defensive Player of the Year and the accolades that

1450
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 2: you not, like what is your thinking and like where

1451
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: are you at?

1452
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 4: My mindset was it don't mean nothing unless I win

1453
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 4: a championship. And at the time, that's how I took it, like, man,

1454
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 4: I did all this stuff as an individual, but it's

1455
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 4: going to lead to the trophy.

1456
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: And that was that from hearing other players, Yeah, it was.

1457
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was thinking, like this is how I

1458
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: gotta take it, like.

1459
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 4: I didn't win a championship, or if I don't win

1460
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,719
Speaker 4: a championship, it was a bus season, so like instead

1461
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 4: of really enjoying the accomplishment and how you know, the

1462
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 4: things that come with it, I was just one track

1463
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 4: minded and thinking, yeah, instead of saying, you know what,

1464
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 4: this is a big accomplishment, man, like this something that

1465
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: ain't really been done, you know. So I had to

1466
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 4: really learn that over time. Is like celebrate every win,

1467
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 4: every every lost, because it's a learning lesson. Yeah, and

1468
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: without those you know, you with those, you're gaining more

1469
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 4: experience on how to handle the next situation.

1470
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 3: So like that's kind of how I took winning that.

1471
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching this league for a long time and

1472
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,600
Speaker 1: it's some superstars that you want to get traded, and

1473
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 1: it's some superstars that you want to stay. I feel

1474
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: like Orlando was like the perfect situation for you, Like

1475
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 1: all the way around, from the city, your personality, like

1476
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 1: the jerseys, like everything about Orlando was like for you.

1477
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: And sometimes like when you be in a city and

1478
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, play so many years, you kind of getting

1479
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: patient without the winning and it makes you, you know,

1480
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: with the chatter, it makes you like, man, let me

1481
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,959
Speaker 1: get up out of here. Why did you need Orlando?

1482
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: Because I feel like Orlando is you. You is Orlando.

1483
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: I know you the mentor of a bunch of different

1484
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 1: teams and you knew one a championship with another team,

1485
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: but like, I feel like Orlando is you.

1486
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 4: It was you know, when c was here, was when

1487
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 4: I was thinking about leaving and stuff like that, and

1488
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 4: I was talking to him and I would always be like, man,

1489
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they want to win here. And it

1490
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: was more so at the time, like it had nothing

1491
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 4: to do with fast on the city or just the

1492
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 4: people here, because he'll tell you we love this place,

1493
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 4: like we was always together, and you know, I think

1494
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 4: they kind of tried to put the team against me

1495
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 4: to where it was he don't like his teammates, you know,

1496
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 4: he want to get rid of him. And so at

1497
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 4: the time, I was like, man, I feel like it's

1498
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 4: too much here.

1499
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: I need to reset.

1500
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 4: It was just so much going on, and I just

1501
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 4: felt like, man, I gotta I gotta start fresh man.

1502
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 4: Like I've been here for this amount of time. I

1503
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 4: was developing, you know, habits that I really didn't like.

1504
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 3: And then I felt like.

1505
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then it was I felt like everything was

1506
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 4: just being given to me, and I was like, man,

1507
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,799
Speaker 4: I don't have to work.

1508
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 3: Work for nothing, I felt.

1509
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 4: I just felt like it was out of place and

1510
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 4: all that was twisted and turn to where it was

1511
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 4: like he don't like his teammates, he's a bad teammate. Uh,

1512
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 4: you don't want to be in the city want he

1513
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 4: wants bigger and better things.

1514
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, like when I got to

1515
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: the league, I got to the Clippers and it's q

1516
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 1: Kean Corey. The more this is unreal, like I got

1517
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: my brothers with me, Like any mistakes I make, they'll

1518
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: pick it up. They'll take it from me because I'm

1519
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: the youngest, Like, no, I ain't gonna let I ain't

1520
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,839
Speaker 1: gonna let my little brother do this and all that stuff.

1521
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 1: When I got traded to Cleveland, I realized what the

1522
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: fucking NBA was. I realized that it was a business.

1523
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,839
Speaker 1: I realized like like I didn't really know Ricky Davis

1524
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: and the rest of the guys just drewing this. It

1525
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: was like a whole new culture for me. That's going

1526
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: when you finally left there and did you realize like,

1527
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: oh shit, like I never knew this side of the

1528
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: NBA because because I always been with this team and

1529
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: it's been like this, But now I see this, cause

1530
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: like when you leave an organization that kind of believes

1531
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: in you are fully forcedful you, then you get the

1532
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 1: organizations that question because you haven't been there that long.

1533
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: And it was just like that's how it felt like

1534
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: when I went to Cleveland. It was just like, damn,

1535
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: I ain't the loving little brother, the young in d

1536
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: Miles that I was. When I got to Cleveland, it

1537
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's a bunch of y'all.

1538
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,640
Speaker 4: That's why I was so missed out of anything. Was

1539
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 4: it was more so like the relationship relationship, you know,

1540
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 4: with my teammates and us always being together and doing things,

1541
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 4: and you know, just like little stuff like, oh it's

1542
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 4: it's fight nights, so let's all get.

1543
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 3: Together at Q house.

1544
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: Environment.

1545
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: And you know, we tried to replicate that in other places,

1546
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:24,560
Speaker 4: but it wasn't.

1547
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: Really just insane, you know what.

1548
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: I tried to do it too, that's crazy. I went

1549
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 1: to every last one of my teammates.

1550
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 3: That you yearned that whole like brotherhood that you had.

1551
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what when I first left, you know, it's like,

1552
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 4: man like that ain't like us.

1553
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 3: It was. It was a little different.

1554
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: We're going to eat together, We're going to movies, we

1555
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: go out. We all going out, even the guys that's

1556
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: not even into going out.

1557
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: Now, we all go out.

1558
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: We're just gonna be up. And that's how it was.

1559
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: It was like my brothers with me, and then it

1560
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: went to Cleveland. It was just like, yeah, so, bro,

1561
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: you want to go and get a drink or you're

1562
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 1: doing something after this, can I come over for dinner.

1563
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: I didn't have to ask you to come over them.

1564
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 2: I just just show up in this crib and just

1565
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,760
Speaker 2: bust up in them.

1566
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 4: It was like being in Orlando is that's that was

1567
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: the part that I really love, you know what I'm saying,

1568
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 4: Like being here, it's like, oh, that's the white you

1569
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm going to eat over you know,

1570
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 4: as Zaxby's or something, and I'm chilling with everybody as

1571
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 4: Zaxby's or were going to fun Spot and you know

1572
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:32,799
Speaker 4: all that stuff.

1573
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 3: So like those are.

1574
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:41,719
Speaker 4: The things that I was like, dang, like.

1575
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 3: I just seen you leave.

1576
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,799
Speaker 1: You'll just left with the kids and the kids pulling

1577
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 1: up now.

1578
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: So that was like that was the biggest thing, you know,

1579
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 4: And it kind of hurt that when I left that

1580
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 4: made it was it seemed like all of us hated

1581
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:58,639
Speaker 4: each other or like I had did so many evil things.

1582
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 4: I felt this way about them, and.

1583
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, like it ain't that. You know, the

1584
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: people on the outside looking in don't never know the

1585
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: real true reality of a story. But we can only

1586
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 1: live one Yeah, we only can make We only can

1587
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: live with our decisions, you know what I'm saying. Like

1588
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: at the time, that was getting pushed not only from

1589
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 1: like teammates or anything else. Only only people that probably

1590
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: was against it was the teammates, but everybody else in

1591
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: the world like, hey, you go to this Laker organization,

1592
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 1: this is the best thing for you. Same thing with KD,

1593
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: which I feel like against anything. But the best option

1594
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,480
Speaker 1: on the table for KD was to go to State Warriors.

1595
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: To me, but.

1596
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 2: This, this was this is one of the funniest things ever.

1597
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 3: Do I know you remember this?

1598
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 2: Remember the day when everything happened with stand People don't

1599
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 2: believe when I tell this story, right said I wanted

1600
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: when you when you like remember you walking into the

1601
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: thing like remember.

1602
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: Like this is I told her, I've said this you

1603
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 3: had happened. So like what happened.

1604
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 2: We get through practicing and everybody all the interviews set

1605
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: up on the Price court. I love obviously. I like

1606
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 2: rooms over here behind the training room. We come through

1607
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: the training room, people get ice stuff through this, she

1608
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 2: got your food about to go down. It was like

1609
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 2: game day. It's in between you know what I'm saying.

1610
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 2: You're just getting through. So it's me and your mirror.

1611
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 2: We kind of like probably like five feet ahead of you,

1612
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 2: right yea, the white come running behind. Hey, hey, like

1613
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, man, like you see them

1614
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: more like I'm about jump an interview. I'm like, look,

1615
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 2: first thing I said, I said, I ain't shit to

1616
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 2: do with that, y'all Tripp right now, because I'm like,

1617
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. It was it was like

1618
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: like intrue, the white one. He he never took this

1619
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: ship like that. We was always laughing and joking about

1620
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: what even when it was like whatever it was, I

1621
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: that we laughing.

1622
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:54,599
Speaker 3: We cool.

1623
01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: We It was never between us like he said, they

1624
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: trying to make it seem like we hate it, like

1625
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 2: we never did. We was always we always had an

1626
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 2: understander whatever was going all the way up to the end,

1627
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,920
Speaker 2: like we always was in communications. But like so he come,

1628
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 2: it's me and you Milwaukee. You Rick got his food,

1629
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,560
Speaker 2: I got our food. He come up, I'm about to

1630
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,120
Speaker 2: do this, and we're like, I say, hell no, I'm

1631
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 2: walking in here. I keep walking. So he he veered

1632
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: straight off from us. He was right here with us.

1633
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 2: He veered straight off to the hunter. I didn't know

1634
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 2: what happened because like you say, ten more feet, I'm

1635
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: out the door to the garage, to the both of us,

1636
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: to the car. I didn't make it to the car.

1637
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't make it home. I'm in the

1638
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: car driving. I didn't make it home. I'm driving about

1639
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 2: five ten minutes my phone.

1640
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 3: Started going off. I ain't know what the hell y'all

1641
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 3: got going on down there? I said, what's you something about?

1642
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: Then I get home, all over Sports Center, all over everything,

1643
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: like we always like what the fuck this happened?

1644
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: It was like.

1645
01:23:51,680 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 2: Standing said this, He just said that they both are

1646
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: looking crazy. We like, oh shit, like it's really and

1647
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: it was like all over.

1648
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 3: We get back. We had to come back to the game.

1649
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: They waiting on us.

1650
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 2: Everybody like, look, you know how it is open, like

1651
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 2: when they opening when your PR dude say all right,

1652
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: locker rooms open.

1653
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: They said, locker rooms up. Everybody like this, everybody, I

1654
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 3: don't remember, bro.

1655
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 2: Everybody got up at one they said, you know they

1656
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 2: used to be something like especially for me with the

1657
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,680
Speaker 2: Knicks sometime they said this.

1658
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,759
Speaker 3: Everybody get up and disperse. They said, locker rooms open.

1659
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 2: Everybody got them, got the held up out of there,

1660
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 2: like ya, I ain't about to ask me about this shit.

1661
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:26,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.

1662
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,759
Speaker 2: What do you remember from that?

1663
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 4: That was like the craziest day of my life. I

1664
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,599
Speaker 4: never forget. We played the Knicks that day. I had

1665
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 4: one of the worst games of my life. I go

1666
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 4: home and they.

1667
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,759
Speaker 1: Dy' is a coach, killer wants the fires coach.

1668
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 4: I call oldest Smith like, bro, man, you gotta do something. Man,

1669
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 4: this ain't right.

1670
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 2: Bro.

1671
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 4: I called standing like stand, bro, you gotta apologize, man,

1672
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 4: Like you.

1673
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 3: Got everybody out here thinking I'm a coach killer.

1674
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1675
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 3: You know I ain't trying to get you fired.

1676
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

1677
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: And it was already too late, and they done, already

1678
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 4: ran with the whole story, and it was just like man, damn,

1679
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 4: like this is some crazy ass ship. But it was

1680
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:09,040
Speaker 4: nothing at that point. It was nothing none of us

1681
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 4: could do because I was.

1682
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 2: So looking at this amazing Like, Bro, when I say

1683
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: I didn't get home, arena to my crib being be

1684
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. I didn't get home, Bro. People started calling me,

1685
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 2: text me like what the fuck y'all. I'm like, I'm like,

1686
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,480
Speaker 2: what happened? Then I get home. When I see it,

1687
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 2: it's like, literally it's alive in it. You see the

1688
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,080
Speaker 2: white come in staying what's up to? But you don't know,

1689
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 2: like staying in one of those like because it was

1690
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: literally moments after he had just said it was going like, yeah,

1691
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 2: he trying to eat fires, cool whatever, and he come

1692
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: in laughing, I'm staying cool.

1693
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, dude, you just slid off on me and I'm

1694
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 7: stuck there and they asking me so staying just said

1695
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 7: you wanted them fire and I'm like, oh, I remember

1696
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 7: that movie.

1697
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 3: It was like dropped the mic. I was like, bro,

1698
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 3: what just happened.

1699
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm talking all of us so we get back were

1700
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 2: talking about it was like, yeah, this is ugly.

1701
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 4: And I ain't know how to handle that, man, because

1702
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 4: I never experiencedis like that. Whereas worldwide about you at

1703
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 4: that point, you with your team that you with in

1704
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 4: the team believe in you, and they they every year

1705
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 4: they with you.

1706
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: You forget about what's going on with the rest of

1707
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, you see guys come and go on

1708
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the team, guys trying out for the team. But like

1709
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: I say, them first two years just spoiled me until

1710
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: I got to Cleveland, Like oh shit, this is how

1711
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: the league is, Like, this is what my agent was

1712
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 1: trying to tell me about. Let me ask you this,

1713
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: Like you had the experience with shock, I seen an

1714
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: interview with Shaq that he left Orlando and went to

1715
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 1: the Lakers, and the Lakers is a whole another or

1716
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: different organization with them like that Orlando ship and all

1717
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 1: the expectation of this organization as a player, and that's

1718
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,240
Speaker 1: trying to be a champion, it's totally different. You did

1719
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: the same thing, you went there, and the expectation. How

1720
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: was it to go to a historic franchise like that,

1721
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: playing with a historic player from that franchise and trying

1722
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 1: to build something there the first time around? Eventually you

1723
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 1: got it the second time around, But the first time

1724
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: around them, well, do you feel like you were fully

1725
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: prepared or you really didn't know what.

1726
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 3: You prepare for? It was like.

1727
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 4: Just if I if I felt if I didn't hurt

1728
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 4: my back before entering that season, I felt like we

1729
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,839
Speaker 4: probably would have had a different outcome, different outcome.

1730
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me about that, because I feel like you

1731
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 2: had the same surgery I had, But I feel like

1732
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: people don't understand with that surgery, like really don't become

1733
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 2: yourself until like maybe eight to twelve months later, while

1734
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: because like I like and I wasn't obviously when I

1735
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 2: at the point when I had that surgery, I wasn't

1736
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 2: depending on my athleticism like you were. You were an

1737
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 2: athletic dynamo. And it was like, like you said, like

1738
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: looking at you in LA from one year in Orlando,

1739
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,040
Speaker 2: it was like, nah, this is different, this is a

1740
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 2: different person. Like he like some ain't right, Like he

1741
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 2: ain't he's nowhere, Like I just sit there and witness

1742
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 2: two to three years of fucking utter dominance and explosiveness,

1743
01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 2: and his explosiveness ain't there. And I knew that because

1744
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: of the surgery, because I knew how long it took me,

1745
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 2: and like you know, I wasn't on TV talking to

1746
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: anything then, but I knew I could see. I'm like, yo,

1747
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: he he not right? But like so what would you say?

1748
01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 2: Like would you say the same thing? And it's like

1749
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 2: you didn't understand that either, Like damn, Like I'm not

1750
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 2: like cause you feel better, like you feel like you've

1751
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: checked all the boxes, you've hit all the little you know,

1752
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: the little green flash they set up for you, and

1753
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 2: it's just like, but I'm still not what I used

1754
01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 2: to be.

1755
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they take a w to get that back

1756
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 4: because I lost my whole left leg, like my nerves.

1757
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 4: I couldn't do a cafise. So I was not even

1758
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 4: supposed to be playing basketball no more. And I just

1759
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 4: had to work my way from that. So from going

1760
01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 4: from having the worse pain in your life. I don't

1761
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 4: think people understand the pain of that back and like

1762
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,480
Speaker 4: to the point where I ain't want to live sometimes

1763
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, I gotta this, gotta get off

1764
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 4: my back yard. Like it makes you want to fight this,

1765
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 4: it makes you angry for no reason.

1766
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 2: You stay with it with a frowned up face, and

1767
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 2: you ain't as tall as you usually are because you

1768
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 2: kind of like I'm telling you, I say on my back,

1769
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 2: to put my pants on, to pull them up, to

1770
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 2: tie my shoe out, tie my shoes in the as.

1771
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 4: I couldn't even tie my shoes. I couldn't even reach

1772
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,320
Speaker 4: down to tire. Somebody had to tie my shoes before

1773
01:29:57,320 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 4: the game. When I had my second back surgery, you know,

1774
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 4: so I I that that pain is like something that

1775
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 4: people can't fathom. And then the Gold played in La

1776
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 4: and then I tore my labor in the same year.

1777
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 4: Most people have surgeries on their labor when they tear it,

1778
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 4: and so I played through that and it's like, man,

1779
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 4: I gotta win because I'm here with the Lakers.

1780
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: We gotta win win.

1781
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: This is the standard.

1782
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And so looking back on them, like, man,

1783
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 4: if I would have just really took care of my

1784
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 4: body and took time, took time out, then the outcome

1785
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 4: would have been better.

1786
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, just like for that, you being

1787
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: hurt and you being you've been with that organization, You

1788
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: playing with Kobe Bryant, you playing with Steve Nash, did

1789
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 1: they put pressure on you, whether you was one hundred

1790
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,599
Speaker 1: percent or not that I'm gonna get my ass out

1791
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 1: here for them.

1792
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 4: I just wanted to play improve everybody like the person

1793
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 4: that they tried to say, I wasn't Orlando.

1794
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,000
Speaker 1: That's not me, like wrong, And like even with that press,

1795
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: it was like because like if you would have waited,

1796
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 1: because like you know, they tell us, like you know,

1797
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: I watched Michael Jordan flu game, I feel like I

1798
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 1: can play with any injury in the world. Yeah, watching

1799
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: coming up, watching Michael Jordan flue game. So when you're

1800
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: playing in a in a game, you always feel like

1801
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: you can play even though that like man, you being

1802
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: hurt or you being sick, or you being anything and

1803
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: might damper or taint the team because you're not at

1804
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. So now we had our weekends because

1805
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: we can put somebody in there at least seventy five

1806
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 1: percent of you.

1807
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't, you know, looking back on it, you

1808
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 4: know I wish I would have.

1809
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Did, you know, just set out and you know your family,

1810
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 1: man tall, you like, man, don't sit out, and you're like, nah, man,

1811
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: Kobe out there, Nash out there with the Lakers.

1812
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 3: We supposed to you ain't never been hurt.

1813
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, never being hurt. It's

1814
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 2: like like they put pressure on you.

1815
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: To be like man, nah, fuck that, Like even though

1816
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm I can't be at my full ability because you know,

1817
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 1: the fans what they do. They don't know the casual fan,

1818
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,519
Speaker 1: Like I tell people, the casual fan will beat up

1819
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: a player, and you never know what that player is

1820
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: going through. It might be a definite injury, it might

1821
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 1: be anything.

1822
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 2: Especially when you look at this generation and how much

1823
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:26,439
Speaker 2: they they are taught to rest everything. They like, look,

1824
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 2: nah he had this, We're gonna keep him out. This

1825
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: is the plan. Like I know, you gotta look at that,

1826
01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:35,040
Speaker 2: like damn they had that back then, Like shit, I

1827
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:37,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't even have they would have protected me from myself, like.

1828
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 4: You, I say, But it was no protection because they

1829
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 4: telling us back then like push through. You gotta push

1830
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:49,200
Speaker 4: through your pain, you know, And me just getting back

1831
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 4: from this Army show that I did.

1832
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 3: The thing that they taught us there was.

1833
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 4: It's more honorable to turn yourself in and say hey,

1834
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 4: I can't go no longer and try to push yourself.

1835
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,439
Speaker 3: And be a weakness to the team. Yeah.

1836
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 1: I was just talking about Robert Williams, like they said

1837
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: he had to get his knee drained every two days,

1838
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, I remember them days where I

1839
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: had to get my knee drained and get them steroids

1840
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 1: in my knee that you know, they're sticking the needle

1841
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: up under your knee cap and they drained and that

1842
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: flew it out your knee. Every other game Isiah posted

1843
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: and I heard that's what he just had to go

1844
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: through to even be able to play every game because

1845
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: he supposed to have days off. That's why he couldn't

1846
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 1: play in the conference finals. That's why he couldn't play

1847
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 1: because they were playing a game a day off, then

1848
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 1: a game like luckily it was the finals because they

1849
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: get two games off before, like between every game, it's

1850
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 1: like people don't know the sacrifices that you give to

1851
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: play this game, and they think, man, we came out

1852
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 1: this much like we went through a war. Yeah, a

1853
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 1: body beat up.

1854
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Is beat up.

1855
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 4: But see, you know the thing that I have learned

1856
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 4: over time is that, you know, we used to have

1857
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 4: a coach named Johnny Davis used to say, listen to

1858
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 4: your body. Always listen to your body, and take care

1859
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 4: of your wheels.

1860
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 3: And you know, it's very important.

1861
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 4: You know, I think a lot of the younger players,

1862
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 4: I know, for us, we didn't really understand how to

1863
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 4: do that. And it's just the little things and it

1864
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,559
Speaker 4: takes time to really learn unless you have a VET.

1865
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,600
Speaker 4: So I think that that's something that's important now that

1866
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,759
Speaker 4: they need to start doing this. Bring back more veteran

1867
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 4: players not only to help teams win, but also help

1868
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 4: the younger players preserve their bodies. You know what I'm

1869
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 4: saying for the long haul, because when I'm playing with

1870
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 4: the Magic, you know, I was playing down there forty

1871
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 4: eight minutes and I could have gave fifteen to twenty

1872
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 4: of those minutes to our backup center, Martine, which is

1873
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 4: going to enter and make him better. It's gonna make

1874
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 4: the team better. And you know what I'm saying, But

1875
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,800
Speaker 4: me not understanding that aspect and me think I got

1876
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,480
Speaker 4: to push through it, push through and push through it.

1877
01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 4: It's really just hurt my body even more.

1878
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how how did you being

1879
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: a man, being an All Star All defensive player, being

1880
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: this MVP type player, to go through the couple of

1881
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:28,719
Speaker 1: teams that you went to and be on the championship team,

1882
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: to be a key part of that champions team. How

1883
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: did that open your mental like to to like sacrifice

1884
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: yourself for having this ego of like I got. I'm

1885
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:42,320
Speaker 1: the baddest motherfucker in the world too. I'm a part

1886
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: of a piece that's creating a bigger piece.

1887
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:51,320
Speaker 4: Well see, I think that's something that I wish I

1888
01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 4: could have had just learned earlier, earlier, you know what

1889
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 4: I'm saying to say, You know, maybe I could.

1890
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 2: It's really less more and more less more, you know.

1891
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. But we talked the other way. Hey,

1892
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 4: you gotta go get this. So in order to get this,

1893
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:09,200
Speaker 4: you gotta be selfish and do this, that and the third.

1894
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you gotta have a balance.

1895
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 4: You gotta be able know, win, to be this selfish

1896
01:36:15,439 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 4: player and win, to just be exactly what the team

1897
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 4: asked you to be. You know. So me going into

1898
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 4: the situation with the Lakers, they say, hey, this is what.

1899
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: We need from you. In my mind, I'm like, bro.

1900
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 4: I can still post up, Yeah, I can still get buckets.

1901
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 3: Like why y'all just want me to just run and rebound?

1902
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta do this because this is what's going

1903
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 4: to get our chance, the team, the best chance to win.

1904
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 3: And it's really like.

1905
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: When you get the success of it, how you feel.

1906
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 4: It's it's better than saying, shoot, I loss and I

1907
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 4: tried to do it my way.

1908
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1909
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 4: It's really you gotta put your pride, you know, in

1910
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 4: your back pocket, you know what I'm saying, and put

1911
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 4: put all that ego away. I can remember looking back,

1912
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. You had a few

1913
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,799
Speaker 4: different years and then when you got with that Lakers

1914
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 4: team and y'all went it to the bubble, it was like.

1915
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 3: Me playing with you. I saw the difference.

1916
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 2: I saw like a flip, like a switch flip, like

1917
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't care about nothing. All I know is that

1918
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 2: when I get out, get out there, I'm about to

1919
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:26,360
Speaker 2: play my ass off. Whatever come from and come from.

1920
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 2: I saw you come out that being like energy. Like

1921
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,720
Speaker 2: I was like every time this version of you know

1922
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, It was for real, like you was

1923
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 2: like the six man hustleman. They send you in there

1924
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: to change tempo, to just fuck sit up and like

1925
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: to really change the game. And I was like, he

1926
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 2: completely is bought in because like when he come in,

1927
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: he is like it's not about nothing else but just

1928
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 2: bringing the energy. And that energy could be I might

1929
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: tip dunk, I might dunk, I might get a bucket,

1930
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: I might run and meet somebody up. I might get

1931
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: a reband, I might dive on the floor, I might

1932
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,760
Speaker 2: set a good screen, might do just it didn't matter.

1933
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't like what I was used to, all right,

1934
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: I'm used to him being a focal point trying to

1935
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 2: get it. It was like for real, like, all right,

1936
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 2: this is about nothing else but my team. I saw

1937
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 2: you cheering for teammates on the bench in the game, whatever,

1938
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Like what flipped in you that made you like, Okay,

1939
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 2: this is what I need to do and this is

1940
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 2: how I need to operate.

1941
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:23,760
Speaker 4: Just really just playing back every season that I had

1942
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 4: before it, all my experiences, like what did I learn

1943
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 4: from this, How did this action that I did? How

1944
01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 4: did that affect my teammates? What can I do better?

1945
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 4: So it was like a big self assessment. It's like, Okay,

1946
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 4: this way it was only getting you to this level.

1947
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 4: So you gotta cut that shit out because you're not

1948
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:46,360
Speaker 4: gonna get to where you really want to go to,

1949
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:49,120
Speaker 4: which is that championship. So if you want to go there,

1950
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 4: something gotta die, you know what I'm saying. And that

1951
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,520
Speaker 4: was the thing right there. I had to die to myself.

1952
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:58,160
Speaker 4: And that's the biggest part when you playing and you've

1953
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:00,600
Speaker 4: been the man. You've been the one wherebody coming to

1954
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 4: see you play, they got your jersey.

1955
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: You know, all that stuff, And to die.

1956
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,639
Speaker 4: To that, it's like, man, damn, I gotta count. Yeah,

1957
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 4: I'm the janitor. That's how you think.

1958
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: I felt like that year you you were like what

1959
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 2: Zoe was to that O six championship team, Like.

1960
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 3: Ye wasn't that what I'm saying?

1961
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,360
Speaker 2: He was no longer the all the all of All

1962
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Star and this, that and third, but like he was

1963
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 2: as important to that team winning as anybody but he

1964
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,000
Speaker 2: came in playing all's out hall hard like, like he

1965
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:37,680
Speaker 2: was as important and everybody on that team would acknowledge it.

1966
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 2: And I felt like that was like, that's what you

1967
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 2: were to that team, Like you know what I'm saying,

1968
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 2: Like you said had the same Hall of Fame type

1969
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: career all of these things you're accomplished, but like now

1970
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 2: in a lesser role, like I still found my way

1971
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 2: to be as impactful as anybody, Like I was as

1972
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,880
Speaker 2: important to this win, to this title win as anybody else.

1973
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: How was it that you know, all the stuff you

1974
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 1: accomplished from your rookie all the defensive Player of the Years,

1975
01:40:02,520 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: the all NBA's to be called a champion, Like, yeah,

1976
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: you can talk all this shit about me, but make

1977
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: sure you address me as a fucking champions And like

1978
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: you well deserve that, man, of everything that you'dn't been through,

1979
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 1: Like how does it feel just for us to just

1980
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,160
Speaker 1: call you a champion? From the rest of your life?

1981
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 4: Man, it's like the manifestation of always believe in like

1982
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 4: I'm a champ, I'm gonna do everything in a championship

1983
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 4: manner and the attitude. And it wasn't until I really

1984
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 4: decided to be a champion every day, Yeah, everyday life.

1985
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 4: It's you know, how a man does one thing is

1986
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:47,679
Speaker 4: how he does all things. So if I'm a champion

1987
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 4: with my children, if I'm a champion with you know

1988
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,000
Speaker 4: how I treat my business, I'm gonna champ. All those

1989
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,200
Speaker 4: things gonna add up.

1990
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 2: And I want to.

1991
01:40:56,160 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 4: Get what I'm supposed to get from being aping. So

1992
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 4: just hearing that is just like knowing like man like

1993
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 4: in all areas, you thrive to be the best that

1994
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 4: you can be.

1995
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 3: And this is what it gets you is the champion.

1996
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: To see Lebron James, what he's accomplished in this league,

1997
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: to see how you carry yourself on and off the court,

1998
01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: To get the opportunity to actually play with him and

1999
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:27,000
Speaker 1: see him up close, like you know, go out to

2000
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: the dinners, have a glass of wine and see him

2001
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: actually work up close, to see where yet, and not

2002
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: only that, to see he about to accomplish something so

2003
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 1: big and to be in the all time leaving scorer,

2004
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 1: Like how proud of him?

2005
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Or you?

2006
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: And what did you see of him that you didn't

2007
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: know before before you played against them? Because you know

2008
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,639
Speaker 1: you played in there and you eliminated him. Yeah, you've

2009
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: pold to win to the finals that everybody wanted them.

2010
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 4: To both of us is silly as crap. Yeah, we

2011
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,120
Speaker 4: like to have, you know, tell jokes. So I was like, man,

2012
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 4: when I saw him, I was like, bro, it's crazy.

2013
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,800
Speaker 4: We both want to listen to music, have a good time.

2014
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 4: But when we get on the court, it's time to

2015
01:42:09,280 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 4: go to work. And you know, one thing that I

2016
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:17,160
Speaker 4: respect about him is just how he conduct himself as

2017
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 4: a businessman. You know, everything he's doing is strategic.

2018
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 3: You know, so.

2019
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:26,960
Speaker 4: Even how he plays the game, he's always watching the

2020
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:27,759
Speaker 4: stat sheeting.

2021
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 3: It's not like he's looking to.

2022
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: Say, what shit, I got it points, I'm paying stats.

2023
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 4: He's looking at the figure out with his numb with numbers.

2024
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:39,000
Speaker 4: How can he be more effective? How can this player

2025
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 4: be more effective? I got to get this guy shots here.

2026
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 4: I gotta do this for this guy.

2027
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 3: You know.

2028
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 4: So he's really just keeping account of what's going on.

2029
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,799
Speaker 4: So it's like, Okay, this is how he do his business.

2030
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He do it the same way.

2031
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 4: This is how he is at home, This is how

2032
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 4: he is with social media. Everything he's doing and he's

2033
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 4: strategically doing and he's playing chess, know what I'm saying.

2034
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 4: So that was like something that you know, I got

2035
01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 4: just from just watching him. With how he moved. It's

2036
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 4: really like a chess like a chess board. You know,

2037
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 4: everything he's doing is positioning himself and the people around

2038
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 4: him to make sure that everyone is successful in whatever

2039
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 4: field it may be.

2040
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 2: You know.

2041
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,439
Speaker 1: So I really picked that up to been around him

2042
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,840
Speaker 1: and see how he's how he empowered his friends to

2043
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: become millionaires and he did his business and to become

2044
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: the first billionaire athlete to be playing. Like you can

2045
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:33,000
Speaker 1: see why he's that.

2046
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:36,960
Speaker 4: Well, just like I was saying, his everything he does

2047
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 4: is strategic, every move he made. And then some of

2048
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 4: the just the outlander stuff he does on the court

2049
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 4: that's crazy, like him passing Kobe a couple of years

2050
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 4: ago for scoring the scoring. You know, I was, I

2051
01:43:54,960 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 4: was there where he did it. You know, So I

2052
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 4: remember after the game, you know, locker room, just watching it.

2053
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying, and I was like, man,

2054
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 4: let me just tell that man. You know, I'm proud

2055
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,559
Speaker 4: of him, you know, just for them, just the fact

2056
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 4: that you know, because this is my eighth this is

2057
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:16,719
Speaker 4: my eighteen years so he ye're nineteen.

2058
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 3: So the fact that we've been doing.

2059
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 1: It straight out high school boys too, you know they're

2060
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: going twenty eighteen. I'm straight out of high school boys.

2061
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 1: Don't touch my body, straight at high school boy.

2062
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,719
Speaker 4: Just the fact that he'd have played for the amount

2063
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 4: of years he's been playing the shows the discipline and

2064
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 4: the sacrifice it takes. It's a very long time to

2065
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 4: be playing this game and for him to keep doing

2066
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 4: it at the level that he's doing it. You know,

2067
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 4: but they said in the military, slowest, smooth and smooth

2068
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 4: as fast, you know, you know, figured out how to

2069
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 4: go through the whole pot, all.

2070
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 1: The rhythms and let's get good. Let me ask you

2071
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,919
Speaker 1: this though, like Lebron is one of the most infit

2072
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: fit NBA players ever in history. You're a superhero yourself,

2073
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:09,559
Speaker 1: so like, how was it was you intrigued to be like, man,

2074
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: I need to see what he does off in this

2075
01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 1: weight room and I know that though it was like

2076
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 1: like like you like you was what I said. Look,

2077
01:45:21,320 --> 01:45:24,880
Speaker 1: you're a superhero yourself, so when you see a fellow superhero,

2078
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: you want to see how we become superhero. So you

2079
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: I know you want you was intrigued to be like, yeah,

2080
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 1: I just want to work.

2081
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I get already you a superhero.

2082
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,559
Speaker 2: I know you get down, but I just I know

2083
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: you was intrigued to see, like, man, how do you

2084
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 2: get down? Let me see how you get down and

2085
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 2: working out off the court to get your physique, to

2086
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: get your power, to get your speed and your strength.

2087
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: I know he was intrigued because like a lot of

2088
01:45:54,240 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: guys don't let them see like that. I heard them.

2089
01:45:57,640 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: I heard the myths about you. And when I walk

2090
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 1: in the weight room and they was like and I

2091
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: walked in on lando of weight room, I was like,

2092
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: they was like, yeah, that's the white House.

2093
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not trying touch none of the heavy

2094
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 2: shit like that shit too heavy, that ain't even that

2095
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:13,640
Speaker 2: ain't even my category. But like, how was it for

2096
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: you to just, you know what, you intrigue?

2097
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:24,920
Speaker 4: His consistency with the guy that he uses, Mikey from Cleveland.

2098
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:29,320
Speaker 4: The guy from Cleveland's still with him still today. Just

2099
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:33,000
Speaker 4: him being consistent. That's the thing that sets him apart.

2100
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 4: You know, he's not lifting crazy amounts of weights no

2101
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 4: more because he doesn't have to. But what he does

2102
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 4: do is he's consistent. Every morning he's up, he's getting

2103
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:48,639
Speaker 4: his massage, he's getting stretched, he's getting his treatment, he's

2104
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 4: getting his weight room where he's lifting you know, certain

2105
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,719
Speaker 4: weights for certain days. And by doing that, he's strengthen

2106
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 4: in those smaller muscles, because that's the biggest thing with

2107
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 4: people don't understand. The big muscles is what people see.

2108
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 4: The small muscles is what you need because that's for endurance.

2109
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 4: And that's why he's been able to endure for so

2110
01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:13,080
Speaker 4: long because he has trained up those small muscles to

2111
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 4: where now there's just ass I'm not even stronger than.

2112
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 3: Those big muscles that you see.

2113
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:21,720
Speaker 4: So for him to be able to jump the way

2114
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,800
Speaker 4: he's jumping, for him to be able to move and

2115
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 4: have that fast twitch, that's because he's steady training those

2116
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 4: little muscles.

2117
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: I remember, like I used to tell folks, I was

2118
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,599
Speaker 1: like when I played against when I played against Shaq,

2119
01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: like when you run into Shack, it hurt. He's so

2120
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:39,879
Speaker 1: big and so strong, So I haven't felt that nobody.

2121
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: And I was telling Kean, and Kean used to always

2122
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,000
Speaker 1: tell me about you, and I'm like, no, I'm finna

2123
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: go into it. I remember one place I got it.

2124
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I swum through what I bump into it. They called

2125
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: foul on you, but I felt it more than you

2126
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 1: probably did, and I told, yeah, yeah he for real,

2127
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,719
Speaker 1: he not moving at all.

2128
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 2: I won't know, Like I feel like I've been privy

2129
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 2: to one or two, but I want to know. Like

2130
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:07,920
Speaker 2: my favorite question is like when you because you got

2131
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 2: a couple of big bags, a few big bags. Yeah

2132
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 2: No I didn't, Yes you did. You got shoe money,

2133
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,599
Speaker 2: you got league money, you got a lot of money,

2134
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 2: you got a lot of money money, you had max contracts.

2135
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 2: That's that's bags. So what I would like to know

2136
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: what I don't I know. I know you took care

2137
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:29,840
Speaker 2: of mom, you took care of there, you bought them,

2138
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: and you know, I know some of this ship. I

2139
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 2: won't know what did they I don't hear, but I

2140
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:35,679
Speaker 2: know snakes and nothing, Like what did d White Howard

2141
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,840
Speaker 2: do that you could look back on like damn, I

2142
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,599
Speaker 2: kind of acted the food right there? That was but

2143
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it.

2144
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 1: Like just the cars, I say that you just donated.

2145
01:48:49,800 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 4: I had, Yeah, I had some uh some crazy cars.

2146
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 4: So I would say the cars is just one thing.

2147
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 4: What's the what's okay? So what's the craziest what's the

2148
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 4: craziest purchase on the car? You think you may well

2149
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 4: your everybody, I still got it though. It's uh it's

2150
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 4: a Robins six by six Robins G six by six. Oh,

2151
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:15,880
Speaker 4: that's the big Ben's truck with all the wheels. Okay, yeah,

2152
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 4: he got that's the for real life tunk of toy.

2153
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 3: It was at one point too.

2154
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 1: How was it to get this? How was it to

2155
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 1: get this mega mansion and enjoy? I used to hear

2156
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I hear about your house, and I hear about how

2157
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: how when your team come in they practice at your house?

2158
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 1: Like it's only a few players. That's fortunate for this

2159
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: ship got the type I do, thank you, this type

2160
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,559
Speaker 1: of ship that got a phone. No, it gotta be

2161
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,160
Speaker 1: a compound because like only people it's only a few

2162
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: players that has ship like this, like Vince Carter or

2163
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: Tracy McGrady or you know, certain people had.

2164
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 2: These animals, these big ass kind of you produce want

2165
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 2: to call them to don't let's just call them the bubble.

2166
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 3: That they have.

2167
01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,160
Speaker 2: You know, it's bigger than like in Atlanta though, like

2168
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,559
Speaker 2: Atlanta and Floyd you're gonna get that stupid Atlanta, Florida text.

2169
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,559
Speaker 1: And I heard about it. I ain't been there yet.

2170
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: I like to get invited. But yes, But how was

2171
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 1: it for you to like just purchase something that in

2172
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 1: the state and the home that you then grew up

2173
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: in that like like a generation of your family, the

2174
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 1: first millionaire of your family, you like to be able

2175
01:50:26,439 --> 01:50:30,400
Speaker 1: to purchase something like this and show your kids, like,

2176
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: this ain't the house we grew up in. The house

2177
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: we grew up in, it was kind of small and

2178
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: we had to duck through the doors.

2179
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 2: It's real.

2180
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,519
Speaker 4: It's really more like it's really a blessing, and it's humbling.

2181
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,080
Speaker 4: Every time I drive through my gates at my house,

2182
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 4: I just think about, you know, where I started, and

2183
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 4: you know how uh how much I've been blessed to

2184
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 4: be able to play the game of basketball, be able

2185
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:00,759
Speaker 4: to make loan lasser, relationship with people from around the world,

2186
01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 4: but also be able to have things that will be

2187
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 4: around for generations. And uh, once I figured out, like

2188
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 4: it's more so about that than all the cars and

2189
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 4: stuff like that, and it just made my life more peaceful,

2190
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 4: you know. So even though people say, you know, this

2191
01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 4: house is crazy big, and you know, I have my

2192
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 4: farmers eight hundred acres.

2193
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 2: You know.

2194
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 4: I have rose buffalo's on there. I did have Texas longhorns.

2195
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:37,679
Speaker 4: I got some cattle, got.

2196
01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 2: The mule. And are you talking about while you're talking

2197
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 2: about amlos and stuff like, I won't hear about your

2198
01:51:46,640 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 2: snake connection collection. I mean, like this man got like

2199
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 2: when I was there, I think he had a list

2200
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:53,320
Speaker 2: he had. I think he had like a lizard or

2201
01:51:53,360 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 2: something like. Now you got I mean.

2202
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:59,760
Speaker 4: I did have forty, but I got that man just

2203
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:03,240
Speaker 4: said they had forty snakes your hockets going on, what.

2204
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: Why in your house?

2205
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,880
Speaker 2: I did, but I don't have that many.

2206
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:12,639
Speaker 3: No more. How many snakes you got now? Probably about fifteen.

2207
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: So he went from forty to fifteen, and he acting

2208
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: like that's reasonable. Have they ever got loose?

2209
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 1: I spent the night on my cousin crib. I spent

2210
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,679
Speaker 1: the night with my cousin crib. He had a snake

2211
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: and he had a water bed. And I always used

2212
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: to spend the night over his house because you know.

2213
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 3: Oh fucked up combination.

2214
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: Now the water bed always be dope, So like he

2215
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: had to move to the caves to like on top

2216
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: of the water bed. So one day I'm just in

2217
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 1: there watching TV, laying on the water bed, and I

2218
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:47,679
Speaker 1: look up and the snake is on top of the cage.

2219
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 1: I never slept in that man again. First of all,

2220
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: I never watched TV in the room. Again, I'm like,

2221
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,240
Speaker 1: oh no, you're leaving the cage open.

2222
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,680
Speaker 2: Let me just say, you a special type of individual

2223
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: to even think that a water bed would fly you

2224
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: sitting there like this.

2225
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, way you know.

2226
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:05,759
Speaker 2: I'm old school.

2227
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm old school, man, I'm old school.

2228
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Back in the day, if you had a waterbed, if

2229
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 2: you had a waterbed, you.

2230
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: Was the flyes dude on the block.

2231
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: Now Leon Phelps undercover, you got you the ladies man,

2232
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 2: water bed man I had.

2233
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:26,880
Speaker 4: I had the biggest snake that I own. It is

2234
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:28,599
Speaker 4: probably about twenty feet right now.

2235
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,920
Speaker 2: That's wrong, my feet. They can wrap people up and

2236
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,320
Speaker 2: eat it, but they don't.

2237
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 3: That's a myth. That's not true.

2238
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Do eat people. Snakes eat people.

2239
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 2: That's movies. I do have an anaconda.

2240
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: Why they don't do that, that's just don't eat people. No,

2241
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 1: that's a lie.

2242
01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

2243
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 1: I watch videos every day and try.

2244
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 2: To eat people.

2245
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,639
Speaker 3: I promise you, promise, y'all.

2246
01:53:54,080 --> 01:53:56,920
Speaker 4: These snakes I've had a lot of animals.

2247
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,080
Speaker 3: I had snakes, I've had monkeys.

2248
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:02,639
Speaker 2: What the hell you had? Okay, hold up, Mike Miller

2249
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,919
Speaker 2: had a monkey. Let me hear this. Did your monkeys

2250
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 2: be stealing apples and ship? What the hell your monkeys?

2251
01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: You had to wear a diaper? Yes, Michael Jackson, Mike Miller,

2252
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 2: the White House.

2253
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: Come on, hold your monkey name?

2254
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:19,799
Speaker 3: I had one name ugly?

2255
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,839
Speaker 1: You had multiple and you call your mom monkey ugly?

2256
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? She was so ugly that she was cute and

2257
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 3: it was a girl.

2258
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:33,840
Speaker 1: Boy, you need to be sould. Are you gonna name

2259
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:35,720
Speaker 1: your girl monkey ugly?

2260
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 6: It was that ugly, but it was cute, you know

2261
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 6: when you ever seen something that was so ugly.

2262
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:43,000
Speaker 1: He was like, oh man, man, you're just so cute.

2263
01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: You ugly.

2264
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 6: That's how the monkey was. Her name was ugly. She

2265
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 6: was the most precious animal I know, the girl. Yes, yes,

2266
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,720
Speaker 6: I had I had theos you had.

2267
01:54:58,400 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2268
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 4: He was a soldier, Yeah, soldier had little dwhite little.

2269
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:05,560
Speaker 2: White you j.

2270
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean monkeys?

2271
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: You have, like you four monkeys? I had four monkeys

2272
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 2: and the last one name was Stuwie.

2273
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 3: Like what where did they go?

2274
01:55:23,640 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: Like they got too big?

2275
01:55:25,680 --> 01:55:30,840
Speaker 4: Somebody had reported me for having monkeys.

2276
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,320
Speaker 1: So they had to keep on taking away from me.

2277
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 3: I had, Yeah.

2278
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 1: You like Mike Tyson back in the nineties. Man tigers.

2279
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,839
Speaker 4: That's why I got my farm. And I love growing,

2280
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 4: you know, enjoyed. So you know that's why I did that.

2281
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 4: Start bench cut. You gotta start one. You gotta bench one.

2282
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 4: You gotta cut one, Okay, Shaquille O'Neill, Kareem at Djabar

2283
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:02,920
Speaker 4: Elijah one? Who do you start? Who do you bench?

2284
01:56:02,920 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 3: Who?

2285
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: You cut them? Some dope centers right there? You like that?

2286
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 3: That's trade.

2287
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry we can't cut these because they're too hall

2288
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: of fame. But to trade, start bench trade, I gotta

2289
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: start shock. Are you gonna start the dzer for? Okay?

2290
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: Dang the dream of Kareem? What you doing.

2291
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 4: Kareem cold? I think he's the goat for big Man,

2292
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 4: But I gotta trade him.

2293
01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,120
Speaker 1: You gotta trade a dream. Keep Korean need.

2294
01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 3: To jump up. I gotta trade Kareem.

2295
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,960
Speaker 1: You gotta trade Kareem gotta dream.

2296
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 2: I gotta keep dream.

2297
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: That's that's that's a good one. More drunk and kg

2298
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:53,280
Speaker 1: rashid or Webber. You gotta trade to start bench one.

2299
01:56:53,600 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 8: All right, I'm starting KG. You starting KG trading Tim Duncan.

2300
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 8: You're gonna trade Tim Duncans. Okay, so so webing.

2301
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 3: And wherever I'm trading both of them.

2302
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 1: You trade Webbing Tim Duncan and you're keeping she. Yes,

2303
01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 1: so she coming off the bench and KG starting.

2304
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 3: Yes, I got too tough power.

2305
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 4: Forwards, I feel and KG one on one they're not

2306
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 4: stopping him, but Rashid one on one, he locking down

2307
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 4: and he's shooting the trade ball on going with she.

2308
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 1: You have played on a lot of teams. You don't

2309
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 1: played it with a lot of teammates. If you had

2310
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 1: to pick four other teammates to build you a super team,

2311
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,920
Speaker 1: and all the teammates you done had, who would be

2312
01:57:40,000 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: your super who would be your for for other players?

2313
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,200
Speaker 2: F Y, you didn't been on you got some. You

2314
01:57:46,360 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 2: got a lot of one of the people like.

2315
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 1: So so if you I'm just looking at yeah, you

2316
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 1: got some, go let them go.

2317
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 3: You know, just f Y, you've been on a few

2318
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 3: people other teams, so us.

2319
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 1: D and the four others who Kobe Kobe at the

2320
01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 1: two Olympic team a regular team, not regular team NBA teams.

2321
01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 1: All your teammates from NBA teams.

2322
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 3: That's not fair.

2323
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,240
Speaker 1: This It is just because like we asked all the

2324
01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,520
Speaker 1: guys and when you when you look at all their

2325
01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:21,880
Speaker 1: teammates and when they put it all together for their superteam,

2326
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,040
Speaker 1: it'd be like, man, if that was the team. Crazy.

2327
01:58:25,280 --> 01:58:30,480
Speaker 1: So Kobe, Kobe at two, Lebron Lebron at three, a

2328
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: D at the four, it's crazy already.

2329
01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 3: I gotta put a D at the four.

2330
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: A D at who Kobe Lebron, a d U who

2331
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:39,240
Speaker 1: at the point is.

2332
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:41,919
Speaker 2: One of the best ones we had so far? Already?

2333
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 3: Oh, don't be my point guard.

2334
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: You only got to be a point guard, traditional point guard.

2335
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 1: Just another player who at the point. Oh wait, that'll

2336
01:58:56,400 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 1: be too much. What hard Harden? Yeah, James wasn't at

2337
01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 1: the point. Kobe at the two, Lebron a D one

2338
01:59:09,120 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 1: of the best five.

2339
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:13,720
Speaker 3: We got it right right there.

2340
01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: We gotta run through the tapes to see who.

2341
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 2: Better than that against that I got, Yeah, I got everything.

2342
01:59:22,040 --> 01:59:25,080
Speaker 1: I got my passor it Bro and you got the

2343
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: two though, big man.

2344
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:32,000
Speaker 2: You had three straight defensive Players of the Year. I

2345
01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 2: was there. I would argue it should have been four. Yes,

2346
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: that's my point. Definitely, Just you know, our team. I

2347
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: know we felt and we thought, but whatever, we know

2348
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:45,840
Speaker 2: how the politics and things different things go. This year

2349
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:49,880
Speaker 2: they had the top seventy five. Me and him have

2350
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 2: talked about this many times on many different.

2351
01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: We definitely felt.

2352
01:59:53,360 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 2: I said from the beginning, I called straight bullshit, you

2353
01:59:58,920 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 2: should have been top seven.

2354
02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:01,680
Speaker 1: There's no disrespect to the players.

2355
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 2: I don't even get into the who should have came out?

2356
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,000
Speaker 2: I don't get into that. I just know that goddamn

2357
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,200
Speaker 2: it shouldn't have been no top seventy five without you

2358
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,560
Speaker 2: being in. And I throw Kyrie out there too, But

2359
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 2: like we just your were talking about types. Yeah, Clay,

2360
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 2: but like you should have been in there, Like what

2361
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 2: are your feelings on that? Like I feel like, like

2362
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 2: everybody say, men live, women live numbers. Don't all of

2363
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 2: your numbers, all your accolades stack up and you should

2364
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 2: have one more defensive player a year to boot?

2365
02:00:29,600 --> 02:00:31,800
Speaker 3: What are your feelings on that whole situation?

2366
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:37,280
Speaker 4: It was upsetting, you know, And I went through a

2367
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:41,160
Speaker 4: range of emotions like upset, and I felt like thing

2368
02:00:41,440 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 4: was everything I did in the league, like was it

2369
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 4: worth it?

2370
02:00:45,240 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? And so I'm like, how

2371
02:00:47,480 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 3: am I off this? List.

2372
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 4: So I feeling like my career wasn't as good as

2373
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:56,600
Speaker 4: I thought it would be. I'm mad, like, how could

2374
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:57,240
Speaker 4: this happen?

2375
02:00:58,200 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 2: You know?

2376
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 3: So I went through all those and.

2377
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 4: There's really that I could do about it now, But

2378
02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:06,200
Speaker 4: you know, I was highly upset.

2379
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 2: You know, but.

2380
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,880
Speaker 1: I ain't know how to definitely felt that you should

2381
02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: have been on that.

2382
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,360
Speaker 4: I do the world. I felt like I put in

2383
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:18,200
Speaker 4: the world. I felt like I did so much in

2384
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 4: this league, uh, as an individual and then as a teammate,

2385
02:01:24,120 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 4: as a player you know, on the on teams and

2386
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:28,760
Speaker 4: in the community and stuff like that.

2387
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 3: It just felt like I should have been on there.

2388
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,240
Speaker 2: Uh, only thing I can say. I know, it's no

2389
02:01:36,440 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 2: real you know, real consolation. But like most of the

2390
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 2: not most all of the players that I talked to

2391
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:46,760
Speaker 2: and we talk about that, we all know, you know

2392
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We didn't have the votes for that,

2393
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 2: and we don't how politics and favorite favoritism and all

2394
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 2: those different things playing that. But like, if nothing else,

2395
02:01:55,320 --> 02:01:58,360
Speaker 2: you can rest on, like the play the people you

2396
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 2: played against, the people didn't play this game and watch

2397
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:01,800
Speaker 2: you play and know.

2398
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 3: What you did.

2399
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:05,919
Speaker 2: We know what the fuck it is. Top seventy five easy.

2400
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 2: It should have been like you know what I'm saying

2401
02:02:07,840 --> 02:02:11,520
Speaker 2: like that, like it was a dominance that you put

2402
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 2: on and you just played for a for a period

2403
02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 2: of time, no matter what they say on the list,

2404
02:02:17,520 --> 02:02:20,040
Speaker 2: no matter what happened, like anybody at watch, and they

2405
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,680
Speaker 2: can't take that away. That's the part that I like

2406
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 2: about it, even when they come out with all these

2407
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:27,520
Speaker 2: awards and all this, like it's gonna be that portion

2408
02:02:27,640 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 2: of the people like us, they really played, they're really

2409
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:32,120
Speaker 2: experienced it. Like I don't give a fuck what you

2410
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 2: feel or what you think about this, Like that does

2411
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 2: not change the facts, you know what I'm saying, Like

2412
02:02:37,480 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 2: we all know whatever, Like somebody didn't vote for whatever

2413
02:02:40,880 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 2: they feel like this they don't like, but that don't

2414
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:46,640
Speaker 2: change the facts of what actually happened. Like every Orlando

2415
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 2: Magic fan, every you Orlando Magic opponent, they know this

2416
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:53,960
Speaker 2: motherfucker was. He was one of them, and he should

2417
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 2: be involved in that group of people because goddamn, like

2418
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 2: we couldn't do shit with him.

2419
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 1: What you think about God, it's like Rudy Gobert, you know,

2420
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: Like I seen Rudy and he went these defensive players

2421
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 1: of the years like you, and then when you actually

2422
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 1: be in the arena and see how much ground and

2423
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:16,240
Speaker 1: what he do defensively, how important that he brings that

2424
02:03:16,280 --> 02:03:18,840
Speaker 1: you might not see on the stats. Shit, you see

2425
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: them guys, and you was the same type of guy

2426
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:22,680
Speaker 1: to see a guy that like Rudy Wilburt that's putting

2427
02:03:22,720 --> 02:03:27,320
Speaker 1: them work in and don't get the appreciation that he deserved.

2428
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,840
Speaker 1: What you think about guys like that that's coming up

2429
02:03:29,840 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 1: in this generation.

2430
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 4: You gotta cut the noise out for him, you know,

2431
02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:39,080
Speaker 4: because obviously people are going to say that, the people

2432
02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,800
Speaker 4: going to criticize his game, and this is where he

2433
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 4: got to come back stronger and better and work on

2434
02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:48,560
Speaker 4: his weaknesses. For me, I knew that in order for

2435
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 4: me to be a great defender, I had to learn

2436
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 4: how to guard guards out in their terror screen and rolls.

2437
02:03:54,800 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 4: I think that's something that he would have to definitely

2438
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:00,480
Speaker 4: have to get better at being able to contain guards,

2439
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,200
Speaker 4: because right now they want to try to put him

2440
02:04:02,200 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 4: on the island.

2441
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,240
Speaker 3: But I feel as though for.

2442
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 4: Him having that size and him not playing basketball his

2443
02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 4: whole life like we all played, and stuff like that,

2444
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 4: he's getting better at it and he's getting hungrier, you

2445
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,120
Speaker 4: know with the game. You know, he's already been working

2446
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:24,920
Speaker 4: with one of the best trainers. Now he's trying to

2447
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 4: figure out how to be a better defender. And you

2448
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 4: know it takes time in this league for big man

2449
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:34,840
Speaker 4: to really develop with how the game is now to

2450
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:39,440
Speaker 4: where it's more outside in instead of inside out. You know,

2451
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 4: so guys are developing slower who actually played the big

2452
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 4: man position unless you have the hybrids like Joker MB

2453
02:04:47,440 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 4: the guys who get the ball a lot and a

2454
02:04:50,080 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 4: little more.

2455
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 2: Shit on what he just said, I want to give

2456
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:56,000
Speaker 2: him his flowers on this. I've said this to you before,

2457
02:04:56,880 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 2: but you could go. I would challenge anybody out there,

2458
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 2: go find tape, go do anything, research whatever. I watched

2459
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 2: him pop out on these guards from Chris Paul to

2460
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,080
Speaker 2: Steve nash Den with like I've told you this before,

2461
02:05:12,280 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 2: to a man. The boy then jumped out on whoever

2462
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:18,040
Speaker 2: and he didn't got a poke poked that he didn't like.

2463
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When I used to the

2464
02:05:20,560 --> 02:05:24,440
Speaker 2: center of Dwight Howard Rudy Gobet tight jumping out on

2465
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 2: the like showing on a pick and roll or showing

2466
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 2: on a on whatever type of defensive set and like

2467
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 2: he literally he gets you and.

2468
02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:32,000
Speaker 3: He make you start over.

2469
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 2: Like even if he might steal it, he might turn

2470
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:36,840
Speaker 2: callt to but he definitely gonna he gonna fuck up

2471
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:37,160
Speaker 2: the play.

2472
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:39,120
Speaker 3: He'll poke that thing. Got to make it go back there.

2473
02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:40,000
Speaker 3: You gotta run Chase.

2474
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,560
Speaker 2: When I first started playing, I was like, yo, like

2475
02:05:43,640 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 2: he really jumping out on like and getting one like

2476
02:05:47,080 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 2: he like he ca you know, I say, bro, he

2477
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:55,080
Speaker 2: just gotta like he getting that poke though, Like that

2478
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:57,720
Speaker 2: is like you go look it up, like to get

2479
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 2: those type of dudes they don't get got and he

2480
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 2: got everybody at some point. You say it all the

2481
02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,120
Speaker 2: time like that was one of the most impressive things,

2482
02:06:05,160 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: like outside of shutting down the whole lane and doing

2483
02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 2: all that, Like I used to be impressed. And he

2484
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 2: popping out on them one from Chris Paul to whoever

2485
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:15,280
Speaker 2: supposed like I use him as a stand He was like,

2486
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, pop out on him and get one start

2487
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,720
Speaker 2: over fucker like on head back there like oh shit,

2488
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 2: and your guard more enough time to get back and

2489
02:06:23,040 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 2: get set and all that.

2490
02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:27,120
Speaker 1: When you was younger, people used to criticize you because

2491
02:06:27,160 --> 02:06:29,680
Speaker 1: you always smile. It seemed like he was always happy,

2492
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,320
Speaker 1: and it feels like he was always playing. And I

2493
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 1: used to always tell guys, I was like, yeah, but

2494
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 1: that shit don't feel like it after I don't feel

2495
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: like it's no game after you played ITAs? Is that

2496
02:06:40,320 --> 02:06:42,720
Speaker 1: because he's so strong and powerful?

2497
02:06:42,760 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 8: Like?

2498
02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:47,800
Speaker 1: What do you say to people that says that, Because like,

2499
02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 1: like I say, the guys, like, we know, we know

2500
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 1: how dominant and how strong and powerful you was when

2501
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 1: we played. Just because you out there smiling this shit

2502
02:06:57,200 --> 02:07:00,360
Speaker 1: don't mean that you weren't fucking us up. But like

2503
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 1: just to say, guys like that, it's supposed to be

2504
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:05,120
Speaker 1: a game that you have fun, you feel free, like

2505
02:07:05,200 --> 02:07:08,120
Speaker 1: to say that, like just because your mindset is a smile,

2506
02:07:08,240 --> 02:07:10,440
Speaker 1: Like it's like you just having fun at work.

2507
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:12,360
Speaker 3: That's true. Well I had to.

2508
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:18,400
Speaker 4: It's such about you know what I'm saying. And I

2509
02:07:18,440 --> 02:07:20,640
Speaker 4: could get where they're coming from, where it could look

2510
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 4: like it's nonchalant or it looked like I'm not as

2511
02:07:24,320 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 4: phased a bout what's going on. But more so, I

2512
02:07:28,040 --> 02:07:30,320
Speaker 4: thought that that was supposed to be like a game face.

2513
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's a poker face. If I'm smiling, you

2514
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 4: don't know whether I'm ready to strike or you know,

2515
02:07:36,240 --> 02:07:39,120
Speaker 4: I'm just chilling, you know. So I always thought that

2516
02:07:39,120 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 4: that was the way it's supposed to be. But you know,

2517
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:46,280
Speaker 4: there were times where I was doing the most on

2518
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,200
Speaker 4: the court of stuff like that, and it can't be

2519
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 4: taking the wrong way. And that's just growing pains, that's

2520
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 4: just learning. Because I when I came in the league

2521
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:58,880
Speaker 4: out of high school, you know, we had so much

2522
02:07:58,920 --> 02:08:02,800
Speaker 4: fun and we wasn't losing games and we were having

2523
02:08:02,840 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 4: fun doing exactly what they say, like why are you

2524
02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:09,720
Speaker 4: smiling so much and having a good time, And I'm like, well,

2525
02:08:10,240 --> 02:08:12,680
Speaker 4: that's just who I am. So I just really had

2526
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 4: to learn how to have many faces, learn when to

2527
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 4: smile and have a good time. Because also I got

2528
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:22,160
Speaker 4: younger players watching me as well, so they might not

2529
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 4: understand like, hey, this is how he is and this

2530
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 4: is what he's doing. Or even some older guys who

2531
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:30,800
Speaker 4: haven't been on my team, they not understanding, like this

2532
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 4: is just who he is.

2533
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 2: But I don't mean he ain't finna.

2534
02:08:33,200 --> 02:08:36,240
Speaker 4: Go out there and try to dunk on your ass.

2535
02:08:36,240 --> 02:08:37,680
Speaker 3: He just want to smile.

2536
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:44,480
Speaker 1: So like the NBA like you you playing Orlando, and

2537
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:47,520
Speaker 1: Orlando is like you know, this is Disney World, you know,

2538
02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:53,440
Speaker 1: the mouse run everything, and like your personality liked it

2539
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 1: when you got to Orlando and you've seen how Orlando

2540
02:08:56,520 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: was and how like just like Kitty and is free

2541
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:04,240
Speaker 1: and just how just undiverse. It was like it's all

2542
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: kind of nationalities out here and all this stuff. Did

2543
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 1: that make you bring out your personality a little bit more?

2544
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 3: To be myself at all times?

2545
02:09:12,280 --> 02:09:13,320
Speaker 2: And I remember.

2546
02:09:14,440 --> 02:09:16,800
Speaker 4: Being in one of the All Star Games and Shaq

2547
02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:20,560
Speaker 4: was like, man, let people see who you are. You are,

2548
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:24,240
Speaker 4: and Grant Hill would he would tell me, man, you're

2549
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 4: always having jokes and being funny.

2550
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 3: And stuff to be there all the time. And so

2551
02:09:30,040 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 3: I was like, man, y'all right, just and then just

2552
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:33,040
Speaker 3: being here.

2553
02:09:33,120 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 4: The more I did it, the more it seemed like

2554
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:38,000
Speaker 4: the fans loved it. And I was like, okay, I

2555
02:09:38,040 --> 02:09:40,800
Speaker 4: can be myself. And then it's just like a big

2556
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:44,720
Speaker 4: love affair, like it's just I love the fasts, we

2557
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:45,440
Speaker 4: love each other.

2558
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:51,720
Speaker 2: You would think that my man is like vegan or

2559
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 2: got some type of some type of nutrition is on hand,

2560
02:09:55,960 --> 02:10:00,160
Speaker 2: Like when you looked at this, I can vivent this

2561
02:10:00,240 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 2: in this moment. I vividly remember we were in New

2562
02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 2: Orleans This is the first time I ever experienced seeing

2563
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 2: him eat like this. This is after shoot a round

2564
02:10:10,440 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 2: the homies about to go to McDonald's. Bro. This McDonald's.

2565
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 2: The man had like two to three big Mags, nuggets, fries,

2566
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 2: fileo fish, like fucking Milkshire, everything under the sun. And

2567
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:29,440
Speaker 2: I got McDonald's that day. But guess what we balled

2568
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 2: out kick aash. Now we gotta do this ship every

2569
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:39,240
Speaker 2: until it don't happen. I swear, I can't it like

2570
02:10:39,440 --> 02:10:43,600
Speaker 2: fifteen games, you know what do all of us McDonald's

2571
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:52,120
Speaker 2: every city. He's like, I'm like, don like how you

2572
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:56,400
Speaker 2: eat like this every time? Liked, No, this is it

2573
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,840
Speaker 2: right here, I'm talking about for real, big max co.

2574
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:02,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is got like six meals, bro. No

2575
02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 2: for like for like the next I don't know how

2576
02:11:05,920 --> 02:11:07,880
Speaker 2: many roads could we beat the shit out or cause

2577
02:11:07,880 --> 02:11:09,480
Speaker 2: we was all like we about to play like you know,

2578
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:12,040
Speaker 2: we all to be talking about like I can't believe

2579
02:11:12,040 --> 02:11:12,480
Speaker 2: we doing it.

2580
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,360
Speaker 3: We about to play like ship. Then soon we bust

2581
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 3: as a kid.

2582
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:19,920
Speaker 2: He ain't wait to the gamey y'all already.

2583
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:20,800
Speaker 3: Know we gotta do it again.

2584
02:11:21,160 --> 02:11:26,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, every city McDonald's before the game.

2585
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 1: Game start bench cut. You have to start one. You

2586
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:32,760
Speaker 1: have to bench one. You have to cut one.

2587
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:33,960
Speaker 2: No listen.

2588
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:42,760
Speaker 1: Orlando Magic Jersey, Pennstripes, the Laker Jersey, the the Black Ones,

2589
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:49,680
Speaker 1: the Mama Mentality, the Houston Rockets Jersey, the Old School Jones.

2590
02:11:50,840 --> 02:11:53,640
Speaker 1: So which one do you start? When the which one

2591
02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:56,480
Speaker 1: do you cut? And when the one do you trade?

2592
02:11:57,280 --> 02:12:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm trading me. I'm cutting the Houston. Okay, you cut

2593
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: into Houston. So which one are magic? That penst Okay?

2594
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:13,720
Speaker 1: You had some hard jersey.

2595
02:12:13,560 --> 02:12:17,480
Speaker 3: Starting the Lakers Magic with that Joy Black short.

2596
02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:21,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. Everybody love that. But in them shorts,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get some shorts.

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Speaker 2: All right, Chad, that's been a rap man. We appreciate

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Speaker 2: the big fellaw pulling up, chopping it up with us.

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Speaker 2: We live on location Orlando floor with everybody.

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Speaker 3: You know it.

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