00:00:03 Speaker 1: When I invited you here I thought I made myself perfectly clear When you're a guest in my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 2: You gotta come to me empty-handed I said no gifts, your presence is presence enough And I already had too much stuff So how do you dare disobey me? 00:00:48 Speaker 3: Welcome to I Said No Gifts. I'm Bridger Weiniger. I made it here. I finally treated myself to having the nail removed from my tire after two weeks. This is the second nail I've had in a tire in less than a year. Is that normal? Who's being so careless with nails? I don't even understand how they're making it into the street. You don't see anybody with a nail. And then they're just in the street. 00:01:20 Speaker 4: They can't– I can talk. 00:01:22 Speaker 3: Well, I mean you shouldn't, but you can– I mean if you've got– hold it, Joe. 00:01:26 Speaker 4: OK, great. 00:01:26 Speaker 3: The guest is trying to break in to my problems. 00:01:29 Speaker 4: And I've listened to the episode too. That's how– that shows you my– where I'm at with my comprehension retention skills right now. I thought I was doing you– I thought I was waiting too long. I was like, boy, he's waiting. I'm sitting here not saying anything. Yeah. 00:01:46 Speaker 3: Get out of here. I mean, not that I have anything. I'm trying to see if I even have anything that needs to be said. 00:01:52 Speaker 1: No, I. 00:01:55 Speaker 3: Don't think so. It's just another episode, another disgusting cash grab. I'm just waiting for somebody to intervene and fix my personality. It's gone on too long. I'm tired. So somebody step into my life. Fix it. Patreon.com slash I said no gifts. That's the URL that you want to go to. That's the website that's going to change everything for you. Come over, subscribe, get more of this. And I think that's everything. I mean, nothing, yeah, everything's perfect. Let's get into the episode. I love today's guest. He's already just part of the show. 00:02:44 Speaker 4: It's Joe Rengert. It's me. 00:02:45 Speaker 1: It's me. 00:02:46 Speaker 4: You guys knew that because I can't keep my big stupid mouth shut. 00:02:51 Speaker 3: Have you had a nail in your tire? 00:02:52 Speaker 4: Well, yes, I have. And I've had two tire pressure alerts recently. And I get very stressed out by anything related to my car. If a mechanic was able to appear in the passenger seat and chart and offer me any amount of money when one of those things comes on in my dashboard, I'm going to pay him it. And a tire pressure alert came on the other day, and I was like, I ought to be able to handle this. I ought to be able to go into the gas station and pay the $ 2 for the air thing. But I was still very nervous, but I did it. And it was for my left front tire. It was at 29. I put it up to 32. It was supposed to be at 31, but I wasn't getting an alert on 32. So I felt good about that. I felt very accomplished. Then I felt very annoyed earlier this week when– The right front tire went off. The right now. Can you guys get it together and do it at the same time? Please. 00:03:51 Speaker 3: That's so odd. I mean, my story is going to give you a heart attack. I'm supposed to be at 39. I got down to 29. I was driving on the freeway on this thing. 00:03:58 Speaker 4: What are you doing? For two weeks. Oh, my God. 00:04:00 Speaker 3: I just couldn't bring myself to like spend the 45 minutes at the tire place. But I kept going to the tire place for them to fill it up because naturally I don't even– I don't have a tire pressure gauge in my car. So– Who does? 00:04:11 Speaker 4: Who does? 00:04:12 Speaker 3: I think you should. 00:04:13 Speaker 4: Are we supposed to? 00:04:14 Speaker 3: My fear is I'm going to go to the air machine at the gas station, which when I went, I did try and it was $ 3. I said, no way. 00:04:20 Speaker 4: You got to come over to Eagle Rock. We got $ 2 in Eagle Rock. 00:04:26 Speaker 3: My problem was stopping at one in Pasadena, of course, charging an extra dollar over there. But I kept going. 00:04:31 Speaker 4: What year is your car? 00:04:33 Speaker 3: I got it last year. Yeah. 00:04:35 Speaker 4: So it should– doesn't it have the automatic? We don't need the– we don't need the gauge. 00:04:39 Speaker 3: Well, but like when you're like spraying the air into the thing. 00:04:41 Speaker 4: They have it attached. 00:04:42 Speaker 3: It's on there. 00:04:42 Speaker 4: Yeah. And listen, I'm talking about this like I'm some expert. No. I was pulling in being like, how am I going to know? I guess I'm going to have to just keep restarting the car. That's what I thought. I figured it out. No, it's on there. A little like– a little like– piece spits out. 00:05:02 Speaker 3: Oh, like the little plastic thing. 00:05:03 Speaker 4: Like a little ruler spits out. See, I was taught. This is metal. Don't go to one where it's plastic. 00:05:09 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:05:10 Speaker 4: Get yourself to one where it's metal. One that could easily break. That seems more official to me. 00:05:14 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was taught that you need to have the gauge in your car because you're going to be doing it all on your own. So I pulled up to this thing that was $ 3 and said, no way. And because I was thinking I'm going to spend $ 3 and I'm not going to know how much pressure's in the tire. So what's the point? I'm probably going to let more air out of the tire. 00:05:30 Speaker 4: And you don't want to be– you can't get too full or too– like you were too full. You may have kicked off sort of a final– low stakes final destination situation for yourself. 00:05:40 Speaker 2: Well, no. 00:05:40 Speaker 4: What I'm saying– You cheated death and death is keeping track of all of that stuff if those movies are to be believed. 00:05:45 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is it was supposed to be at 39 and it was at 29. With no alert? It was essentially flat. No, the car was begging me. Oh, yeah. The car, every time I started it, please. 00:05:56 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:57 Speaker 3: Get this worked out. But the reason I'm so lazy about it is because I have found that tire store employees are so wonderful. They're always so nice and so happy to fill up the tire that I'm just like, why not just do it constantly? Until the point of, I was like, oh, they're starting to recognize me. 00:06:15 Speaker 4: They definitely recognize me at my local tire store, Mountain View Tire. That's mine. I'm going to give them a shout out here. Oh, yeah. So you're also on the east side. 00:06:23 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:06:23 Speaker 4: That is at the very end of the street on which I live. 00:06:27 Speaker 3: Oh, you're really giving yourself away here. People start combing the area. 00:06:31 Speaker 4: Come at me. Come for me. Who cares? We're talking about passwords before. I don't change my password because I'm like, my data sucks, man. Who wants my data? But I've had like a couple of like, you know, A flat tire close enough to home where I'm like, I'm just going to get to home because it's right there. And in fact, one time I had AAA had to tow my car in and they towed it into the one that's at the bottom of my street, which is like kind of embarrassing. 00:07:02 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. 00:07:02 Speaker 3: That's a little– I've driven from my house in Highland Park with a fully flat tire to that tire place, which was. 00:07:09 Speaker 4: Probably– I just have my dad in my head saying you're going to ruin the rims. Of course. I think it's supposed to be really bad for you. But I've gotten away with it. 00:07:20 Speaker 3: It worked out for me. 00:07:21 Speaker 4: I've had a lot of tire issues over the past three years because I got 2023 Prius, which is a great Prius because this was their idea for the 2023 Prius. What if we made it look like Tesla? And that's all it is. Oh, interesting. I've never had a car like this. For years and years and years, I had a Plymouth Reliant that the driver's side door didn't open. I would have to crawl in on the passenger side. It was like an old government car, like a K car. Then I didn't drive when I lived in New York. And then when I moved here, I had a Toyota Yaris, which was like those are nothing. 00:07:55 Speaker 3: I know who owns that. 00:07:56 Speaker 4: Oh, you do. Brad Evans. Oh, yes. Yes. I love that it's still in service. 00:08:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. 00:08:03 Speaker 4: I give names to my cars. I didn't for most of my life. But then when I met my wife, Holly, she names her cars after her driving instructor. And I was like, I like that. And when I lived in New York, I decided I was never going to have to drive ever again. I was always going to live in a city with a mass transportation system. Then I had to move to LA because Hollywood was begging me to come here and share my gift. So I was like, I've forgotten how to drive. And I signed up for driving lessons in Queens. I found a guy. I got like a pack of like five lessons. And then he drives you to the DMV for your exam. 00:08:46 Speaker 3: Oh, that's kind of luxurious. 00:08:48 Speaker 4: It was very nice. And the guy I was studying with was named Mohammed. And he drove to my house for my first lesson. And we get in the car and as soon as I get behind the wheel, it all comes back. I know how to drive. 00:09:01 Speaker 3: How long– what time period had it been since you hadn't driven? 00:09:04 Speaker 4: I was– it had been seven years. But before that, I drove for five years. Right. So that's in there. 00:09:12 Speaker 3: It's in there. 00:09:12 Speaker 4: But I'm just a nervous person, Bridger. And I'm like what if I've forgotten something? And I used to always have a lot more driving anxiety. So we were going and he's going through all the basics and I like know how to do it. And at the end of the lesson, he was like, Joe, you are a very good driver. But I had the five pack already. So he was like, what do you want to do? And I still did the other lessons. 00:09:37 Speaker 3: Did you like sharpen your skills? 00:09:38 Speaker 4: No, not really. But I would just like have an hour with this guy and I would just drive him around. 00:09:46 Speaker 3: Just running errands? 00:09:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. Or just like, you know, and it's like, whatever, we're driving. And, you know, there was a little bit of like, I would try to be like, can we go on the highway? Can we do stuff like, can we go into Manhattan? Like, it's scary. That would be valuable. I'm challenging myself a little bit more. But every lesson, it was still just Muhammad being like, you're a very good driver. 00:10:07 Speaker 3: Did you go into Manhattan? 00:10:08 Speaker 4: I did. 00:10:09 Speaker 3: Terrifying. 00:10:09 Speaker 4: You know what? It seems I think it seems scarier when you live there as a pedestrian for a long time because you're seeing the people really almost kill you constantly. But I didn't find it that bad. I think it's scarier now that city bikes are such a big thing. 00:10:29 Speaker 1: Oh, right. 00:10:29 Speaker 4: Because I just I turn I like turn into everybody's mom and I'm like, nobody ever has a helmet on. 00:10:36 Speaker 3: Especially in New York. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: It's really odd. 00:10:39 Speaker 3: It's very strange to me because I felt like my entire childhood I did not wear a helmet. I then had the realization as an adult I could have been killed countless times. Yeah. And it seemed like everyone was on the same page. And now, at least within New York, people are just buzzing around without helmets on. 00:10:53 Speaker 4: They should have a helmet that comes with it. And look, I know you're asking for trouble. I know you're asking for lice or something with the helmet. I'm sorry. Then that's– I don't know. I think I would take the risk rather than– I don't want to be brain dead. 00:11:08 Speaker 3: I wonder– I feel like there's so much plastic in a bicycle helmet. It doesn't feel like a lice territory to me. Lice is like it's on the back of a gorgeous like movie theater seat, fabric. 00:11:20 Speaker 4: They want more– yeah, they want something to munch on. 00:11:22 Speaker 3: To hang on to, right. 00:11:24 Speaker 4: But there's– what could– but you could get something from a shared bike helmet. 00:11:27 Speaker 3: Some sort of rash? 00:11:28 Speaker 4: I don't know. People's hair is going in there. I think the lice is getting up into the helmet. And then when you're putting it on, they're like, we've been starved now. 00:11:38 Speaker 3: They're even more active. 00:11:40 Speaker 4: Whatever the fuck lice was. 00:11:42 Speaker 3: Just absolutely drill into your skull. 00:11:44 Speaker 4: Have you ever ridden in Mohammed? Brad has Mohammed. 00:11:48 Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't tell me that the car had been named Mohammed. 00:11:51 Speaker 4: That was the long-winded story I was getting to. But I was sad when I was finally going to get rid of it. For a long time, I was going to save it and like, Make my daughter drive it, which would be in like the year 2037, which is insane. But then when he came back from New York, somebody had told him that I had a shitty old guard that I wasn't using. And so I gave it to him. We did like 50 bucks or something. But now when I see him at a party, he will be– I'm always like, how's Muhammad? And he's like, it was full of gay dudes the other night. And I'm like, I love this. 00:12:24 Speaker 3: I've never been in it. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: New chapter for Muhammad's life. 00:12:26 Speaker 3: He seems to be taking care of it. And a Toyota will run for 100 years. Those cars go forever. 00:12:32 Speaker 4: That's why I went for the Toyota and that's why I'm in one again now. But the 2023 Prius has– it's very low to the ground and it's a very thin tire. So I've popped a lot of tires on this thing. One time I was just backing up doing a three-point turn in a cul-de-sac and I just lightly bumped just the curb of the tire. That feels wrong. Yeah. 00:12:56 Speaker 3: I also feel like how have we not just figured out– I feel like there's got to be within reach technology for something to cover a wheel that doesn't pop. 00:13:06 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:13:07 Speaker 3: It just doesn't feel like scientifically that should be that difficult to figure out. Yeah. 00:13:12 Speaker 4: They have it and it's in a locked safe somewhere at Tire Inc. Because the tire companies don't want that. They want that. They want us on these ticking time bombs so that the revenue keeps coming in. Open your eyes. 00:13:31 Speaker 3: Well, I think we should talk about something else or something we need to get into. 00:13:35 Speaker 1: Okay. 00:13:35 Speaker 3: I wasn't looking forward to this at all. But the podcast has always said no gifts. 00:13:41 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:13:43 Speaker 3: You know, you haven't been on the show before, but we know each other. We've spent a decent amount of time together. I figured you'd be able to just figure it out. 00:13:51 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:13:51 Speaker 3: But you wandered in here today holding a gift. 00:13:54 Speaker 4: I did. Is this for me? This is for you. You were so clear about it. 00:14:00 Speaker 3: I love this bag. 00:14:01 Speaker 4: Gah. Where did this come from? From my wife's. I almost said from my wife's bedroom, which is also my bedroom. But my brain was like from Holly's room. And that is because she has slowly, slowly taken like most of it is just hers. I get to sleep in there and our closet. I have half of the closet. And my half of the closet, there's like a wall where I really have to like reach into my pants to get to my pants. I can't like see all my pants easily with the amount of closet that I have left. 00:14:38 Speaker 3: And the rest is her clothing. 00:14:40 Speaker 4: And the rest is all hers. She's a real clothes horse. She's a very fashionable woman, and she has to have a lot of looks. And you've known me for a while. I kind of am like I have a uniform. I'm wearing the same thing every day. But a very stylish uniform. 00:14:54 Speaker 3: Oh. I feel like you always look so classy. 00:14:57 Speaker 4: Thank you. But this was on her. We have a little couch. I'm giving out more details about my house. Paint a picture. I shouldn't do this. 00:15:06 Speaker 3: I know you have a driveway. 00:15:08 Speaker 4: Our bedroom is in the front of the house. Okay. And you can see the Target emblem from our window. Not from our bed. But we have like it like juts out and there's like windows there and we put a little like sitting like a couch there that we never really use except to just like Holly puts her shit on there. But if we hired or just found someone who wanted to watch us make love. The natural place in our bedroom to do it would be the couch. Now, this is not something we're into. It's not something we're looking into. It's not something that I think there would be a lot of takers for. But if we were in that situation for whatever reason emotionally, we got the setup for it right now because we got– it's a great couch. 00:15:56 Speaker 3: Anytime I see a couch in a bedroom, I'm like somebody– they're just– it's a future use. 00:16:00 Speaker 4: We are just putting stuff on it. We're just putting bags on it. And that's why I needed a bag and I took it and I was going to ask what it meant and then I decided it's maybe more interesting if I don't know what it means. 00:16:13 Speaker 3: I think it's great. Gah. 00:16:15 Speaker 1: Gah. 00:16:15 Speaker 4: It means something. 00:16:16 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd love that. Well, let's dive in here. 00:16:22 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:16:23 Speaker 3: Pull this out. Oh, I'd love to see some tissue. Okay, there are two objects. 00:16:28 Speaker 4: I got two. 00:16:28 Speaker 3: Should I open them in any order? 00:16:29 Speaker 4: In my family, we like to do one real one, one gag. Oh, that's a good idea. So one of them's a real one and one of them's a gagger. 00:16:36 Speaker 3: Which one should I open first? 00:16:37 Speaker 4: I don't get it. 00:16:38 Speaker 3: Okay, there's a soft one here. 00:16:40 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:16:41 Speaker 3: Got the tissue going here. 00:16:43 Speaker 1: Oh, God. 00:16:43 Speaker 4: I feel so terrible about this. I hate presents. I hate giving presents. Oh, my God. 00:16:50 Speaker 3: Well, this is a great shirt. 00:16:51 Speaker 4: Now, I think of you, Bridger, as the king of great shirts. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: Oh, that's very nice. 00:16:57 Speaker 4: So I went to Bridge Thrift in Glassell Park. 00:17:01 Speaker 3: Oh, I love Bridge Thrift. 00:17:02 Speaker 4: Right by Bub and Grandma's. And I went, there's no way I'm going to get a good shirt from here, but. I thought this was a pretty good shirt. If you don't wear it on a weekly basis, I'll be hurt. It's adorable. 00:17:16 Speaker 3: It says it's got a little drawing on it of a man kind of looking at a brown egg, let's be honest. I actually have no idea what he's doing, but there's a cactus. 00:17:27 Speaker 4: There's a real world happening here. And my feeling with this illustration is I think it was– started off as a, can you spot what's wrong with this picture? And then they recycled it for this. Because it says, play with soil underneath. And what he, I guess, is holding is soil. But no, it looks like brown egg or brown rock. It should be a handful. And I get that it's hard to draw dirt. But it's too solid of a mass of dirt. 00:18:02 Speaker 3: It should have had a little... squiggle on it or something. 00:18:04 Speaker 4: It could, even if you just like split it up, like look at this guy over here by the cactus. 00:18:10 Speaker 1: Right. 00:18:11 Speaker 4: That looks like dirt. They've put some dots there to make it feel more like dirt. But he's inspecting it with a magnifying glass. It looks like he's putting a noose over his head. And he's going fully through it. And that's the sick, twisted mind of Bridger. I did not... think of it that way but it does look like and it looks like he's going to like he's at the end right he's made this dark decision but he's like god damn it i made it it's too small for my big stupid. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: Of course i made my news too small. 00:18:45 Speaker 4: This is why i'm doing this and i've got to redo it. 00:18:48 Speaker 3: Now But I guess that's a magnifying glass. 00:18:55 Speaker 4: It's got– I mean I don't know. It says play with soil. It doesn't say study soil or inspect the soil. It says play with soil. So another possibility is that he's going to maybe– Could it be a leash of some sort and he's going to wrap it around this clump of dirt and then the clump of dirt is his friend? Is this terrible for a podcast? No, I love this. There's videos too, right? There's cameras. 00:19:28 Speaker 3: Listener, if you want to see, naturally what you'll have to do is migrate over to the video. 00:19:33 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:19:34 Speaker 4: But it's for Earth Day 2020. 00:19:34 Speaker 3: I wonder what part of 2020 that fell on. 00:19:40 Speaker 4: Well, it's always in April, right? Is it always? I think it's always April 15th. Okay, wow. Is that taxable? 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Day? 00:19:50 Speaker 3: That's tax day. Earth Day, April 22nd. 00:19:55 Speaker 4: April 22nd. 00:19:56 Speaker 3: Yeah, a week after tax day. So this is probably an interesting Earth Day for people. 00:20:02 Speaker 4: Yeah. That was– we were in lockdown then at that point, right? Oh, yeah. 00:20:08 Speaker 3: Yes, about– A month into it. 00:20:11 Speaker 4: It was post Tom Hanks. There was one basketball player who licked the microphone or something. Rudy Gobert licked a microphone being like, this isn't real. And like he licked a bunch of microphones and then he got it. If he had died, that would have been so crazy. It like that. I remember we were still working at that point at Big Mouth. And that day was such a chilling day. And at the beginning of that week, one of the writer's assistants had a birthday. And that show went for many seasons. So we had done so many birthdays at a certain point. So this writer's assistant was like, instead of just the same cookies or donuts or whatever we get. We had cold cuts. So we're all just sitting there. And this is an exaggeration, but we're grabbing with our bare hands cold cuts. And there's just like a pile of loose meat that we're all eating. And then two days later, I remember one of the people in charge was like, we're going to start having Kelsey spray down the doorknob every day. Anytime anybody uses a doorknob, it's going to be disinfected. 00:21:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's weird that you have a meat-related memory to that period too because the office I was working in, I still think about the turkey jerky that I left on the table. 00:21:29 Speaker 4: Uh-huh. 00:21:29 Speaker 3: Just drove home. 00:21:30 Speaker 4: Oh, and then just like you came back and it had like a layer of dust. 00:21:33 Speaker 3: We never went back to that office. 00:21:35 Speaker 1: Oh, wow. 00:21:36 Speaker 3: So– and I'm sure it wasn't cleaned out for a long time. 00:21:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:21:39 Speaker 3: At least for probably a couple of months. They probably didn't send anybody in there. So there's probably just meat on the table. 00:21:44 Speaker 4: We never went back to that writer's room. We were in a writer's room in Hollywood and– I had gone back there for like they would have parties there sometimes because it was one of Titmouse's main studios. So I remember like eventually people going in to get like whatever stuff like if you left a like sweatshirt or whatever. And it did feel very like going to the city of Pompeii or something where like everything was exactly what it was. It was all dusty and crazy. 00:22:14 Speaker 3: It's– I'll never get over how– I mean it's been six years since that happened. It just feels so fresh still to me. Well, then everything became 20 percent worse afterwards. So you're just constantly reminded. 00:22:28 Speaker 4: I'd be more worried about you if you didn't think about it still. If you were like, what? What was happening in 2020? No, keep talking. 00:22:38 Speaker 3: This is starting to sound familiar. No, I love this shirt. Let's see what the back says. 00:22:44 Speaker 4: There's a bunch of truly insane looking thing on the back that I didn't even really fully read or process. 00:22:51 Speaker 3: I'm going to read it and maybe someone can put this together. It says climate, this is a list, the shape of the earth, rocks, erosion, plants, animals, tiny things like bacteria, fungi, protozoa, algae, viruses, nematode worms, earthworms, gases such as nitrogen, oxygen, CO2, Atmospheric, methane, lots of water and time. Oh, made dirt and dirt don't hurt. 00:23:17 Speaker 4: Is that a concern? So this is a very– they're an atheist. 00:23:22 Speaker 3: Oh, another– this is how you sneak in your atheist agenda on this Christian podcast. 00:23:28 Speaker 4: God didn't make dirt. FYI, God didn't make dirt. This is the stuff that made dirt. 00:23:35 Speaker 3: Well, you're arguing with someone who– if God made one thing, it was dirt. No, this is an interesting– I didn't realize the dirt don't hurt. That feels like they're fighting something. 00:23:47 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:23:47 Speaker 3: Like an agenda of somebody's. 00:23:49 Speaker 4: Did you hear that when you were a kid? Dirt hurt. God made dirt and dirt don't hurt. 00:23:53 Speaker 3: No. 00:23:53 Speaker 4: Is that a thing? That's a thing. That's like if you drop your snack in some dirt and you're like, I don't want it. I want to eat it. Like, you know, and you and you have like a grandparent who lived in the through the Great Depression or something. And they don't want to take your dirty snack and give you a fresh snack. They go. It's just a little bit of dirt. Dirt. God made dirt and dirt don't hurt. I definitely heard that. 00:24:17 Speaker 1: Wow. 00:24:17 Speaker 3: I've never heard that before. It's a great phrase. It's bad. 00:24:21 Speaker 4: It's bad. Dirt do hurt. Dirt do hurt. Dirt do sometimes have bacteria in it, which is out to get us. 00:24:29 Speaker 3: I do feel like I've gotten looser with if something falls, whether I'll eat it or not. I feel like I was very tight on that for a long time. And at this point, I'm like, I'm taking in all of the information before throwing it away. 00:24:44 Speaker 4: I mean, my– again, to talk about my wife behind her back where she cannot defend herself, she really, really like keeps our house incredibly clean to a degree that makes me think maybe I was just like disgusting before. So if I drop something like in our kitchen or our dining room and I get to it quick enough, I'm like, I'm probably okay. 00:25:09 Speaker 1: Right. 00:25:10 Speaker 4: But then over the past, you know, seven years, I have a dog and a kid running around in there. And now I'm back to like, nah, these guys are tracking in all kinds of stuff in here. 00:25:22 Speaker 3: Do you have a Roomba? 00:25:23 Speaker 4: I don't have a Roomba. 00:25:24 Speaker 3: I've been considering that. 00:25:25 Speaker 4: I never have. You're going to give it a try? 00:25:27 Speaker 3: I'm vacuuming constantly. 00:25:29 Speaker 4: I don't know. 00:25:29 Speaker 3: I mean, my dog is shedding just nonstop. 00:25:33 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:25:34 Speaker 3: Filling up garbage cans. 00:25:35 Speaker 4: It's crazy. I think if you have a shed, we have a hypoallergenic, my dog doesn't shed. 00:25:40 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:25:40 Speaker 4: And that, but that's a game changer when you have a shedding dog. 00:25:43 Speaker 3: What's the deal with your dog? It doesn't like people? 00:25:46 Speaker 4: No, it likes people too much. Oh. It has a extreme, extreme case of separation anxiety. 00:25:53 Speaker 1: Oh, right. 00:25:54 Speaker 4: And so my dog doesn't know you. I actually haven't mentioned you to the dog. But if you came, if you, Came to my house tonight. Tony would bark at you as you're coming in the house, then immediately start wagging his tail and love you and jump in your lap. And then when you tried to leave, if you were to even say the word, Joe, I'm going to go now, he would lunge for you to try and keep you there. 00:26:22 Speaker 3: Like snarling? 00:26:23 Speaker 4: He uses his voice, yes. More of a full-throated bark than a snarl. 00:26:30 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:26:30 Speaker 4: And then he will– we've used multiple dog trainers to try and free him of this. Maybe your listeners will have some tips. 00:26:39 Speaker 3: People always have tips. 00:26:41 Speaker 4: But we have tried multiple times with dog trainers, and the one dog trainer explained it that, like, his mouth is his hand. So he's trying to just simply grab on your pant leg. Like, sometimes when he wants me– To get into the bed. He'll like lightly without breaking skin, like not even not even fully biting. He will put his teeth like to my finger, like come into the bed. But he like he will get very possessive. And he got my mother in law really bad one time. And I wasn't there. And I think she's maybe exaggerating. But he she was there with my wife and he was sitting on her lap. And that's the first step he does, which is when dogs do that, they're going, now you're my possession. So he was possessing her, and then she said the word G-O, which I'm afraid you can say here. 00:27:34 Speaker 3: I like that you're spelling it out on the podcast. 00:27:37 Speaker 4: I freak out. Thank God she had an Ugg boot on, and he went after this Ugg boot. And they talk about it like it was the most harrowing life and death experience they've ever been through. But now since then we do a lot of like– we have like little routines and tricks like I will take him out to the back of the house and we can like close him in there. Or I'll offer him a cookie that I have in my office and then I leave his ass in the office because I have multiple doors. And he is– if there's a room with multiple doors, he doesn't know what to do. He picks one door that's like that's the main door and then these other two doors off of my ADU, my office, he's like, I don't know how he did it again. He went through the wall again. 00:28:21 Speaker 3: He just rolls the dice on the door. 00:28:24 Speaker 4: He's betting on the same door all the time. And he's like, I'm hoping that Joe is not magic and he's not going to go through that window like he normally does. But then I do because it's a door. 00:28:36 Speaker 3: Have you had him since he was a puppy? Yeah. 00:28:39 Speaker 4: I mean he was probably four months, five months old. He was kind of not– we never had him in like full puppy mode. Right. We got him from a pet rescue in Venice. His initial– his first name was Bentley. 00:28:56 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:28:57 Speaker 4: Which I just didn't like. 00:28:58 Speaker 3: You know whoever– Car names. 00:29:01 Speaker 4: That's very dark. And he was very matted and was all like– they had been leaving him outside. So the two parts of the story like were not lining up for me. But he was very cute in his pictures and we met him and we took him for a walk and he was very just like docile and chill and calm. So we took him home and then after– they did tell us when we were there and we didn't really think this all the way through. He had a bunch of fox tails in his ears. 00:29:32 Speaker 3: These terrify me. 00:29:34 Speaker 4: Those things are scary, right? 00:29:35 Speaker 3: I've been warned by dog trainers they'll go up their nose and the horror stories. 00:29:39 Speaker 4: They'll just wreak havoc on dogs and dogs are just nosing around and getting them everywhere. And he's a Bichon poodle mix. So he has like long, fluffy white ears. So he had a ton in his ears. So they sedated him to remove all these foxtails. So when we met him, he was like still coming out of a sedation. And then like on the first morning he woke up in our home, it was kind of like, oh, this is what this guy is really like. 00:30:08 Speaker 3: It feels like more pet rescues should be doing this. Just send home sedated dogs. 00:30:14 Speaker 4: And then, you know, I'm not an asshole. I'm not going to be like, well, this guy is actually kind of not a nice dog. He's not not nice. 00:30:24 Speaker 3: No, he sounds like he's wonderful, but he's just got this thing that you obviously trained into him. 00:30:28 Speaker 4: He's really like– I think he had it and we were doing like obedience training and different sort of training. And then, not to bring up our favorite thing again, COVID happened and we stayed at home for a full year. And also my daughter was born in 2019. So we stayed home a lot the year before that. We got this dog thinking it might take us a long time or forever to get pregnant because my wife and I are old and we assumed all of our shit is all fucked up. And then like we– it wasn't. We just like– she got pregnant immediately. That's an insensitive way to put it I guess. 00:31:04 Speaker 3: No, I think that's classy. 00:31:06 Speaker 4: And so then we were like, oh, fuck, and we had like a puppy and a baby right away. But he had so much time at home that then I think he just got used to– I think it made his separation anxiety much worse. 00:31:17 Speaker 3: My only remaining question here is did you ever see the Ugg boot? 00:31:21 Speaker 4: I did see the Ugg boot. 00:31:22 Speaker 3: What did it look like? 00:31:23 Speaker 4: He got a bite out. 00:31:25 Speaker 1: Oh, okay. 00:31:25 Speaker 4: He got his teeth into it. Okay. He ruined the boot. He ruined the boot. But he's never broken skin. He's never like drawn blood. Look at me making excuses for this dog. 00:31:40 Speaker 3: No, but that's the thing. They could easily draw blood if they wanted to with their teeth. And like my dog, she's quite large and has teeth. Sharp, big teeth. And she'll occasionally like grab at me. She's not trying to. The only time she's broken skin is I was going to throw a ball and she got too excited and jumped at the ball. It was like, oh, yeah, these teeth are extremely sharp. 00:31:56 Speaker 4: And that is like to me, that's not an intentional. No. She's going for something else. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: No. We tried to give her up, but they wouldn't let us. 00:32:06 Speaker 4: They were like, this is an accidental bite. Nice try. Well, we had one of the dog trainers we used was this. Very like kind Irish guy who kept coming to our house. And it was he was kind of infuriating because he would assess Tony and then he would be like, oh, Tony's not that bad. And I was like, what? But he's like a lot of times dogs that have separate. I can't do Irish accent. He's like dogs that have separation anxiety. They'll soon as you leave the house, they'll destroy your whole house. But he just sort of. You know, it's over as soon as you're gone. 00:32:41 Speaker 1: Oh, interesting. 00:32:41 Speaker 4: So he was trying to like frame it in this way, but he didn't– we were like the behavior that he is doing is bad. 00:32:47 Speaker 3: He was trying to just be like, well, I'm not good enough to fix this. 00:32:50 Speaker 4: He didn't have– So just deal with it. He didn't have an answer for that. And then we went in the opposite direction and got a very aggressive, mean drill sergeant sort of trainer. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Was it a German woman? Because I had one of these and she was not good. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: He was a man. And he– Red flag number one that I should have known was a problem. He said, we can probably do this over Zoom. 00:33:18 Speaker 3: So, like, we met with him over Zoom. 00:33:21 Speaker 4: And he was like, the first thing will be over Zoom. And he was like, chain up your dog outside and get a chain, a metal chain, and feed him outside and, like. It's like already I'm going, why have we even agreed to this Zoom? But then you're saying two dog abuse things on the Zoom right away? Get out of here. 00:33:42 Speaker 3: Begin neglecting the animal. That's so crazy. Did you meet with him multiple times? No. 00:33:48 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:33:49 Speaker 3: Oh. Okay. Well, let's open this next thing here. Let's see what's going on. I've got to get more tissue sounds. Okay. Oh. 00:34:00 Speaker 1: Oh. 00:34:01 Speaker 3: The Three Stooges is simply hilarious. 00:34:03 Speaker 4: Now, have you heard of these guys before? 00:34:06 Speaker 3: I'm not familiar. 00:34:07 Speaker 4: These guys are three– they're three friends is my understanding. They– I don't think they're brothers. 00:34:13 Speaker 3: I've never questioned this about the Three Stooges. I was like what their relationship is to each other. 00:34:18 Speaker 4: They got to be three friends, right? They don't– I don't know. I've never. Because wouldn't they be like the Bonk Brothers or something? Right. Yeah. 00:34:28 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they? 00:34:29 Speaker 4: I think their deal in reality is like they have like Moe Howard and like Larry Fine. Like they have different last names. 00:34:37 Speaker 3: Oh, OK. 00:34:37 Speaker 4: Like I think there were three comedians that packaged them. So I know you like comedy. This is why I got you. 00:34:42 Speaker 3: But within the show, there's like a fiction of them just being friends, being stupid friends. Or was it just I don't know. I've. Never looked into the Three Stooges beyond just having a general concept of them. 00:34:56 Speaker 4: Based on my understanding of the Three Stooges, I don't think they've thought about it either. And I think if memory serves all of their– sort of film start with like, hey, look, we're tailors now. 00:35:11 Speaker 3: Oh, right. 00:35:11 Speaker 4: They're not getting into any more. They just have like a different job that they do poorly in every film. Right. 00:35:18 Speaker 3: It's more of like an umbrella brand. 00:35:20 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:35:21 Speaker 3: Then you know what you're, the sort of hijinks you're going to get into. 00:35:24 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:35:24 Speaker 3: But in different settings. 00:35:25 Speaker 4: It's these guys and then we just, they just, it's really, it's like an anthology. No, I guess it's not an anthology. 00:35:33 Speaker 3: Because it's the same cast. 00:35:33 Speaker 4: It's kind of a black mirror. Yeah. Is it a black mirror? 00:35:38 Speaker 3: It's a black mirror style show. 00:35:40 Speaker 4: This is like– but this was the thing. Like Abbott and Costello would just be like, now we're meeting this dinosaur. Now we're at this– or dinosaur. Now we're meeting this monster. I don't know why I said dinosaur. 00:35:51 Speaker 3: I can see them meeting a dinosaur. 00:35:53 Speaker 4: Yeah. If they had the budgets for it, if they had the effects, they would have done it. 00:35:58 Speaker 3: And then did you ever see their– The reboot? What was that thing? Do you remember this? 00:36:04 Speaker 4: No, I didn't. But they did one recently. It was like Will Sasso was Curly and Chris Diamantopoulos. It's a Greek name that I'm going to get wrong. He's a very fascinating actor to me because he's a very handsome man. I think he was in Silicon Valley. But then he played Moe, famously ugly man in my opinion. I'm putting you on blast, Moe. I don't care. And also, he's the voice of Mickey Mouse. When they do new Mickey Mouse cartoons, this guy, now I just went down my spine that I might be wrong about that, but I don't think I am. That would be a weird thing for you to- Don't correct me on that. Do give me tips on how to save my dog from being insane, but don't tell me if I'm wrong about Chris Dieman. 00:36:58 Speaker 3: I've got him right here. 00:36:59 Speaker 4: What's his name? 00:37:01 Speaker 3: Greek names are tough. Diamantopoulos? 00:37:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, see, I got it. I nailed it. 00:37:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, great looking guy. Is he Mickey Mouse? That's what we're really wondering. 00:37:10 Speaker 4: He does Mickey Mouse. This I'm certain of. 00:37:13 Speaker 3: Oh, you're certain of the Mickey Mouse. What are you not certain of? 00:37:16 Speaker 4: Nah, I don't know. I'm not certain. 00:37:17 Speaker 3: Looks like he does the voice of something in Charlotte's Web. But he's doing it all. Oh, yeah, he's Mickey Mouse. 00:37:24 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: He's doing a lot of animation. Yep. But he's such a handsome guy. 00:37:30 Speaker 4: Mickey Mouse is one of those things where I kind of feel like anybody could maybe do Mickey Mouse because Mickey Mouse. 00:37:35 Speaker 3: Is just like– Now you're going to get comments. You're going to get a bunch of voice actors just burning you down. 00:37:41 Speaker 4: I think truly like in the same way that like when I was doing sketch comedy, like the laziest choice you could make would be like to do a southern accent. Or like an Italian mobster accent because those are the ones everybody can do. Just so simple, yes. But I think Mickey Mouse is that for cartoon characters. He's just like, oh, no. 00:38:00 Speaker 3: I don't think I could do it. 00:38:01 Speaker 4: Try it. 00:38:02 Speaker 3: This is going to be nightmarish. 00:38:03 Speaker 4: Let's see. 00:38:04 Speaker 3: I'm trying to even imagine what Mickey Mouse sounds like. What's something Mickey Mouse would say? 00:38:09 Speaker 4: Oh, there's too much water on my boat. 00:38:14 Speaker 3: There's too much water. 00:38:15 Speaker 4: On my boat. You're doing it. You just did it as good as Christia Monopolis. 00:38:22 Speaker 3: I should have booked that job. 00:38:23 Speaker 4: You didn't you didn't want to and you don't need it. You're above it. But it is crazy to me because at some point, like, I just want to know the thought process. Was he like, I got a good Mickey Mouse. Get me in there. If any of my friends said to me, I got a good Mickey Mouse, I would go, are you feeling OK? What do you mean? How do you know that? Why do you think that? And everybody has a good Mickey Mouse. It's just a man doing a high-pitched voice. Even a famous– you have a deep voice, Bridger. I love your voice. It lives in my head. Even you just did it. 00:38:59 Speaker 3: And certainly nobody approached him. It's not like Disney was like, you're the guy. 00:39:03 Speaker 4: We got to get Christie for this. I don't know. I know it's a 100-year-old character, worldwide recognition. It's all over our theme park. I don't want to do another new Mickey short unless we can get Christy. 00:39:17 Speaker 3: The thing is I feel like I'm very– I have wig blindness. I've talked about this on the podcast before. I'm very bad with wigs. But with voice acting, I feel similarly. Like there's the new– the Muffet special that just came out and people were furious about Kermit's voice. 00:39:34 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. 00:39:35 Speaker 3: Could you tell a difference? 00:39:37 Speaker 4: I can't– I can tell the difference when a voice has changed. It drives me mad. I'm not really good at always placing oh that's this person's voice so like when I go take my daughter to see like we went to see Hoppers like right and I'm trying to have the etiquette I don't want to be that guy taking my phone out in the movie theater I've been corrected on that before and it's horrible. 00:40:00 Speaker 3: That's shocking to me that someone's corrected you I mean that you've been bad enough on your phone that someone had to correct you in the theater. 00:40:06 Speaker 4: I did and this was one where and I'm going to get back to the voice thing but I went to see– think of like a movie or a situation where you really shouldn't be doing this. It was like a second– like a re-release of Stop Making Sense. 00:40:24 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:40:25 Speaker 4: Talking Heads Stop Making Sense. So it's all fucking people like me who are like, I'm going to go see this in the movie theater and be– you know, like of course I shouldn't be on my phone there. And the woman next to me chided me and she was right. 00:40:41 Speaker 3: She was totally– I'm on her side. 00:40:42 Speaker 4: She was totally right. 00:40:43 Speaker 3: I'm on that person's side every time. Did you see the guy that maced somebody at the Burbank town center? 00:40:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is a little bit too far. But it just was– it's so embarrassing. There's like nothing I could say. 00:40:57 Speaker 3: Do you know what you were doing on your phone at the time? 00:40:58 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was getting ready to shoot like a pilot that a comedian was like financing for himself. And like he had sent me over the new script and I was like– I wish it was like, oh, my mom was in the hospital or something. 00:41:15 Speaker 1: No. 00:41:16 Speaker 4: It was me being like, what are my lines in this thing that became nothing? So I deserved it. I got to step out of the theater then. But I tell you what, and I would– I feel very strongly about this. I don't think I've looked on it since. So now when I'm in Hoppers, I'm just like, this is just going to have to torture me. To the end of the movie that I don't know who's doing the voice of the bug. Oh, it's Dave Franco. What about that? 00:41:40 Speaker 3: This is why I feel like animated movies shouldn't have famous people voicing them. 00:41:43 Speaker 4: No. 00:41:44 Speaker 3: It makes me feel insane while I'm watching it. 00:41:46 Speaker 4: It can be very, very distracting. 00:41:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean very small famous people maybe. But when it's like a superstar, I'm just now wondering. I'm like trying– going through– I don't even know what's happening in the movie at that point. Just trying to guess who's voicing the character. 00:42:02 Speaker 4: And sometimes if you know who it is, it takes you out right away. Oh, it's terrible. The first movie I took her to see in the theaters was Puss in Boots The Last Wish. Oh, I've heard that's good actually. Oh, it's actually very good. And it's actually kind of about Puss in Boots outrunning death. Whoa. Which I'll also say this. This was my introduction to Puss in Boots. I'm not fucking with Puss in Boots before this. I'm not watching any of the Shrek movies. The only thing I knew about Puss in Boots was I guess in– I think it was either Korea or Japan. The way they– the title of the movie, the translation there, if you translated it back into English, that movie was not called Puss in Boots. It was called Shrek's Cat, which is insulting to him. He's not his cat. No. As I learned in Puss in Boots the last week. 00:42:51 Speaker 3: He's a fully different– I mean he predates Shrek. 00:42:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was around before Shrek showed up. But, yeah, Puss in Boots, The Last Wish, great movie, but... Friend, former guest of the pod, as I've been listening to your pod and scrolling through the episodes, Betsy Sedaro does a very small part in it. Oh, whoa. But it completely takes me out of the movie. 00:43:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, especially when you know the person. That's another layer to it. 00:43:14 Speaker 4: And I'm there with my– she was probably about three or four years old daughter at that point. And I'm going, hey, that's Aunt Betsy. And she's looking at me like, what? Because they don't understand at that age of like a human being is doing the voice of this. 00:43:29 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:43:32 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to start rooting against Betsy's career. I don't need her ruining an animated movie for me. Okay, Three Stooges. I don't think I– I truly don't think I've ever seen a second of the Three Stooges. 00:43:43 Speaker 4: No, this wasn't forced on you? 00:43:45 Speaker 3: No, this was never– I mean media consumption in my house was odd. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't have a ton of– I feel like I– I don't know. I had no media anything. We watched Home Improvement. 00:44:00 Speaker 4: Really? 00:44:02 Speaker 3: And then like maybe the news. 00:44:04 Speaker 4: Was that like the one show that everybody could agree on? 00:44:07 Speaker 3: Yes. Or that my parents wanted to watch or something. But there was no– nobody being like, here's what comedy is for sure. Within the 500-mile radius. 00:44:16 Speaker 4: See? Like I have– I always associate the Three Stooges with like my grandfathers and then like uncles and like dads. There's like a certain sort of like blue-collar East Coast dad that are like, these guys, this is real comedy. 00:44:35 Speaker 3: And they would just pop in the VHS or something? 00:44:38 Speaker 4: A lot– at the time of VHSs, yes. Any man– it's like it was male to you. It's such a weird thing to own. The second you turned 60 years old, you had to have a VHS of the Three Stooges. And so it's that. But then also the reruns were on all the time. My my in my house, the TV was always on and still is like it's on right now in my parents. I love that. And now that we're in an age where it's like we'll we'll get like a vacation house with them and like no one has like cable anymore. And it's like it really throws them off and like my dad will be like, hey, bud, the TV in my mom– me and mom's bedroom is Roku. Can you get it on– can you get the news on there for me? He just needs to have the sound of the news. 00:45:27 Speaker 3: I totally believe that. There's something very soothing about just having TV drone in the background. 00:45:33 Speaker 4: They just always have something on. I mean my mom will– the second they start doing the Hallmark Christmas movie, she just has those on. 00:45:41 Speaker 2: Oh, right. 00:45:41 Speaker 4: In a way where I'm like this has to be hurting your mental health in some way. 00:45:48 Speaker 3: I miss just being able to turn my TV on. But we didn't have cable until I was in like ninth grade. It was all– I just felt like I had been imprisoned and then suddenly there's all this stuff to watch. 00:45:59 Speaker 4: Were you getting like the three stations or what were you getting? 00:46:02 Speaker 3: I don't know. Like– What during the 90s would you get? 00:46:06 Speaker 4: We would get like 3, 6, and 10, and then there would be like 17. Like I'm old enough that I had like the dial TV. 00:46:13 Speaker 3: Oh, interesting. 00:46:14 Speaker 4: I remember like turning to 17 or to 24 and like those were the other ones. 00:46:17 Speaker 3: Did it have a satisfying click? 00:46:19 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. Oh. 00:46:20 Speaker 3: We had channel 2, 4, 5, 13, and then 7 was PBS. 11 was something called KBYU, which is the Mormon College's channel. TV station, which no one ever went to Channel 11. That was the worst station you could find. And then occasionally our antenna would pick up Channel 14, which was UPN. 00:46:43 Speaker 4: Ah, UPN was 17 for us. I love that the numbers are different. I find it so fascinating. Like PBS was 12 for us. 00:46:52 Speaker 3: That makes no sense to me. 00:46:53 Speaker 4: We had a thing happen in the Philadelphia area where forever, like three was CBS and six was ABC. 10 was NBC. And at some point, CBS and NBC switched. Same with us. 00:47:10 Speaker 3: Five and two flipped. 00:47:12 Speaker 4: First of all, why? What could have been the reason for that? 00:47:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened there? 00:47:18 Speaker 4: They just– the machines. We can't– there's no way around it. 00:47:22 Speaker 3: How– was that a financial benefit for anyone? 00:47:25 Speaker 4: It doesn't make any fucking sense. It wasn't any different. But to the– like I can't tell you. Like there were so– for so many years afterwards, my mother would like call me and be like, which one is Channel 10? And I knew that meant which one is NBC. Right, right. Wow. 00:47:45 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that switch and then there was– you've like associated a certain branding with the number. 00:47:51 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:47:52 Speaker 3: And it was like, OK, now channel two is kind of crappy. 00:47:55 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like ABC in the Philadelphia area kind of puffed their chest over that a little bit because they're like six ABC. I think they were really leaning into like we're not giving up our number for anybody. We were ABC four. Our number is our number forever. 00:48:07 Speaker 3: Yeah, ABC, you can still count on channel four in Utah as far as I know. So they really held on to it. I don't know. None of that makes any sense, though. It's very odd. The other thing that occurred to me recently is we didn't get SNL. 00:48:20 Speaker 4: Oh, wow. Just not at all. They just were opposed to it because of the counterculture messages. 00:48:26 Speaker 3: I think that something along those lines, which is so odd. 00:48:28 Speaker 4: People with cones for heads. 00:48:31 Speaker 3: They had all the other NBC programming. So I don't understand why they drew the line at SNL. 00:48:37 Speaker 4: It sort of makes sense to me. It does? I mean for certain eras of SNL, I do think it was like an edgy– yeah. So what came on then? 00:48:46 Speaker 3: It must have just been garbage. It was probably infomercials or something. We got a lot of infomercials at night and then obviously all of Sunday was just pure infomercials. 00:48:56 Speaker 4: Yes. 00:48:57 Speaker 3: Which was probably the most captivating thing for us as kids to watch. like the food dehydrator or whatever. 00:49:02 Speaker 4: Oh, sure. 00:49:03 Speaker 3: Begging our parents to buy one. Okay, I think we should probably play a game. 00:49:11 Speaker 4: Okay, great. 00:49:12 Speaker 3: We're going to play a game called Invite List. Do you have anything to promote or recommend? No. Okay. 00:49:20 Speaker 4: Uh you know what i'll you i had a i have a show on amazon on prime video called kevin yes you should i came out i can't believe you just it's so funny how this works where i feel like all i did like a slew of podcast appearances where i was essentially like begging people to watch the show. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: That's what everyone's doing at this point. 00:49:37 Speaker 4: And then once they canceled the show, I was kind of like, all right, whatever. But I love it and I'm proud of it and all my friends who worked so hard on it did an incredible job and it will be on there for as long as Amazon decides that it's on there. So I still do want people to watch it even though it doesn't, I won't be making any more of them. 00:49:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, it exists and it's now just its own little thing that gets to It will probably live forever. Amazon is probably going to eventually own everything. 00:50:07 Speaker 4: I feel like they– if anything, they need to have more stuff on there. I feel like they're like trying to compete with Netflix. And Netflix– one of the things that Netflix has going for it is like you'll find something. And Amazon kind of doesn't have that. 00:50:21 Speaker 3: I just feel like when I get on Amazon, I don't know how to really find anything. No. 00:50:27 Speaker 4: It's one of the worst in terms of that. And we sort of– I co-created the show with Aubrey Plaza and we sort of like tried to like voice our concerns about that. 00:50:36 Speaker 3: Who's at the wheel? 00:50:37 Speaker 4: Nothing anybody can do about that. And they're one of those weird ones too where it makes– for all of its problems, at least when I go on Netflix, I'm just looking at Netflix. But Amazon is like, do you want to buy a movie too? 00:50:50 Speaker 3: How about one of a million trials? 00:50:52 Speaker 4: Or do you want to– Watch something on Apple TV. And I'm like, wait a minute. Hang on. 00:50:56 Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like you are ever actually in Amazon's TV thing. 00:51:00 Speaker 4: Like it would drive me crazy when I was trying to because all the streaming shows like they have to like the first 30 days are also important. So we were going I'm going on there every day to be like, where are we at in the top 10? Right, right. And then they break out the top 10. But if you look at their top 10, it would be like all movies that came out two months ago. They have to buy it now by. But, you know, it's like crime number– crime 101 or what was the Chris Pratt movie Mercy where it's just like chair the movie where he's just sitting down the whole time? That kept being number one. And I'm like am I– is my little cat cartoon in competition with chair the movie? 00:51:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very confusing. It feels like a pretty easy fix. But who am I to say? 00:51:44 Speaker 4: Listen, it's getting cold. It's getting dark earlier. You need something to fill the time with. Go get lost on Prime Video. Get on there. Scroll around. The show is called Kevin. Terrible title. Hard to find. So take a while. 00:52:00 Speaker 3: I think it's a– it's the one– It'll be the first Kevin that comes up. 00:52:04 Speaker 4: It got a fair amount of criticism online. But the one criticism I was like, that guy is right, was I saw like a comment that was just like, Why is this called Kevin? I'm not getting anything from that name. I'm like, he's right. I disagree. 00:52:18 Speaker 3: Why is anything called anything? 00:52:20 Speaker 4: It's about a cat who breaks up with his owners and we could have called it like Kevin on his own or something. But it's like, nope. And I'm dumb. At some point I was like somebody more important than me is going to be like, hey, come up with a better name for this. But they never did. 00:52:32 Speaker 3: Wait, is Kevin can wait the. 00:52:37 Speaker 4: That's another problem with it. You got that. 00:52:40 Speaker 3: You got Kevin can wait. 00:52:42 Speaker 4: Then you got Kevin can go fuck himself. And Aubrey and I really dug our heels in because it was about our real cat that we had together. And it was about us breaking up and our cat going off doing his own thing. And we were like, but his name was Kevin. So we just can't change it. But I'll tell you something else. His actual name was we named him Kevin Hines after our friend, improviser, comedian, UCB guy, Kevin Hines. But then I was like, well, we can't call it Kevin Hines. 00:53:12 Speaker 3: People would have been like, what are we talking about? 00:53:16 Speaker 4: And number one upset on that list would have been the man, Kevin Hines. 00:53:20 Speaker 3: Life ruiner. 00:53:21 Speaker 4: I had already done like. Stand up on Comedy Central once and I used to do jokes about my cat and say his first and last name. And it would always get a laugh of like a cat having a last name. But then when he watched the special, I heard through his brother like, why is he saying my name so much? And I'm like, hey, man, fair point. 00:53:41 Speaker 3: OK. Everyone find Kevin. Joe's online. You can find him, et cetera. 00:53:47 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:53:48 Speaker 3: OK. We're going to play invite list. I'm going to start naming a list of celebrities. OK. You tell me invited or not invited. You can say why or why not. Once we get to 10, that's your party. 00:53:57 Speaker 4: And I have to decide in the moment. You have to. 00:54:00 Speaker 3: Decide in the moment. 00:54:01 Speaker 4: Okay. 00:54:02 Speaker 3: Katy Perry. 00:54:04 Speaker 4: Invited. Clavicular. Not invited. 00:54:08 Speaker 3: David Sedaris. 00:54:09 Speaker 4: Invited. Iman. Invited. 00:54:12 Speaker 3: Mary Jo Buttafuoco. 00:54:14 Speaker 4: Invited. Misha Barton. Okay, now Misha Barton was on the OC? 00:54:20 Speaker 3: Yes. 00:54:21 Speaker 4: Okay, not invited because I'm not sure about who she is. 00:54:24 Speaker 3: She had a very dramatic end on the OC. 00:54:26 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah? 00:54:27 Speaker 3: Devastating to see. 00:54:28 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you can spoil it? 00:54:29 Speaker 3: Sure, she dies. What was her name? I can't even remember her name. 00:54:35 Speaker 4: Marissa. Marissa. 00:54:36 Speaker 3: Marissa's got SUV flips or something. 00:54:39 Speaker 4: Wow. Now, in real life, did she want off the show or something? 00:54:42 Speaker 3: Yeah, she must have wanted off, right? 00:54:43 Speaker 4: She was like, I'm too big for this. She is probably regretting that. And now you can't even get into Joe Wankert's party. Wow. It's rough. How far have you fallen? 00:54:53 Speaker 3: You could be partying with Mary Jo Buttafuoco. Okay. Ann Romney. 00:55:01 Speaker 4: Ann Romney. Is that wife of Mitt Romney? 00:55:05 Speaker 3: Mother Romney. 00:55:07 Speaker 4: Not invited. 00:55:09 Speaker 3: Jason Tatum. 00:55:10 Speaker 4: Jason Tatum. 00:55:10 Speaker 2: Not invited. 00:55:11 Speaker 4: Not invited. I'm from Philadelphia. I know he's an NBA player. Who does this guy play for? He plays for the Celtics, one of my most hated rivals. But also, this guy is a weird guy. Is he? We got to look up. He has a crazy tattoo. He has some really crazy tattoos. I'm blanking on. He just like he's one of these rich athletes who doesn't have a good guy in his life to tell him no about some bad idea. 00:55:38 Speaker 3: Is this chest tattoo? 00:55:40 Speaker 4: No, I think it's on his leg. 00:55:42 Speaker 3: Let's see. 00:55:43 Speaker 4: It's like three characters that don't belong together or something. Is this good for a podcast? This is good. When you can't remember a single specific of what you're talking about? 00:55:51 Speaker 1: OK. 00:55:53 Speaker 4: Oh, no. 00:55:54 Speaker 3: Let's see. It's a disaster. This is the thing we're looking at here? 00:55:58 Speaker 4: Yeah. No. Is that a different bad one? 00:56:03 Speaker 3: God, it looks like a map or something. 00:56:05 Speaker 4: Forget about that. I think we should abort on this. 00:56:09 Speaker 3: Don't let this guy come. 00:56:12 Speaker 4: Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman. I'm going to say not invited. And I'm basing it off of one thing. 00:56:20 Speaker 2: What? 00:56:21 Speaker 4: He is one of the few celebrities that I've seen in real life in L.A. Like not at an industry function. Oh, sure. There was this great burrito place on– I want to say Vermont, whose name I'm blanking on. It's like near that coffee bean and tea leaf. Do you know what I'm talking about? 00:56:42 Speaker 3: Oh, you're talking about Yucca's? 00:56:45 Speaker 4: Yucca's. 00:56:45 Speaker 1: Yes. 00:56:46 Speaker 4: And they had a little kiosk. Hillhurst. On Hillhurst. Thank you. I'm always Vermont and Hillhurst. And the listener needs to know. 00:56:52 Speaker 3: I'm always– Listener's getting mad. 00:56:53 Speaker 4: They had a small– like almost like a little like kiosk or a very tiny– A stand that was in the parking lot of a liquor store. 00:57:02 Speaker 2: Yes. 00:57:02 Speaker 4: And I would go there when I lived in Los Feliz and I would get a burrito and I would eat it by myself sometimes in that parking lot. And one time I saw a car come screaming into a liquor store and out of the car comes Gary Oldman. And I'm putting the burrito down, folks. I'm like, I got to make sure. I'm going to be talking about this on a podcast at some point. It was 100 percent Gary Oldman. He blew into the liquor store, blew back out, and then again. And I can't believe someone wasn't vehicularly murdered when this happened. So I think he might be a nutcase. 00:57:44 Speaker 3: What was he driving? 00:57:45 Speaker 4: I don't remember. You have wig blindness. I have car blindness. I know my car, but makes and models of cars, I'm like, good luck. 00:57:54 Speaker 3: I weirdly know all cars. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah? Are you a gearhead? 00:57:58 Speaker 3: I think because my dad and my brothers really liked cars. Okay. All makes and models, I have a fairly good memory for. 00:58:05 Speaker 4: I've never had that with any sort of vehicle in my life. First college roommate was a guy I went to high school with and CCD with, Steve Reeves, and he had that with airplanes. So like a plane would fly overhead and he would, from the ground, would know what type of plane it was. That's wild to me. 00:58:22 Speaker 3: Okay, Gary Oldman's not coming. Jessica Simpson. 00:58:26 Speaker 4: Invited. 00:58:27 Speaker 3: Danny Brown. 00:58:29 Speaker 4: Danny Brown, is he a rapper? 00:58:30 Speaker 3: Yes, wonderful rapper. 00:58:32 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, I'll invite him. 00:58:33 Speaker 3: Okay, Dr. 00:58:34 Speaker 4: Phil. Not invited. 00:58:36 Speaker 3: Emma Stone. 00:58:38 Speaker 4: Not invited. 00:58:40 Speaker 3: You can't invite everybody. 00:58:41 Speaker 4: I don't know why. Oh, wait a minute. I mixed up Emma Stone and Emma Thompson, but it's too late, huh? Yes, it's too late. 00:58:49 Speaker 3: Oh, fuck. 00:58:52 Speaker 4: First of all. I love Emma Stone. I love you. I love your work. I'm a baseball fan. I feel like she's like married to a guy that likes the Padres. So now she goes to Padres games. I think that's cool and supportive. And let's also take a second and what do I have against him? 00:59:10 Speaker 3: Emma Thompson, former guest of the podcast. 00:59:12 Speaker 4: On this podcast? 00:59:13 Speaker 3: She's the best. 00:59:15 Speaker 4: She seems like the best. 00:59:17 Speaker 3: Look at the egg all over your face right now. 00:59:21 Speaker 4: Wow. Nobody's rooting for Joe after this. I'm making a lot of Hollywood celebrity enemies today, I think. I think Chris DeMontopoulos might come after me. Mickey himself. Maybe this is what I need. Maybe this is my new pivot, Bridgers. I'm just like– Bad boy. Truth teller. Getting in trouble. Yes. Okay. Amy Tan. Joy Luck Club? Yes. Yeah. Not invited. I don't know anything else but Joy Luck Club. 00:59:50 Speaker 3: That's the only book I know. 00:59:51 Speaker 4: And that's terrible. If I'm just like, oh, so– I got to have something else to talk to them about. 00:59:57 Speaker 3: And we should clarify you don't think the book is terrible. 01:00:00 Speaker 4: Oh, I love the book. 01:00:01 Speaker 3: Love the book and the movie. It sounded like you're like Joy Luck Club. That's terrible. 01:00:05 Speaker 4: No, I love the book. I love the movie. And My Lovely Wife Holly, one of her favorite movies. She's going to be mad I didn't invite her. 01:00:12 Speaker 3: Miley Cyrus. 01:00:13 Speaker 4: Oh, invite it. 01:00:14 Speaker 3: Whitney Rose. 01:00:16 Speaker 4: I don't know who that is. 01:00:17 Speaker 3: Real Housewife of Salt Lake City. 01:00:19 Speaker 1: Wait, are you. 01:00:20 Speaker 3: Watching the show? 01:00:22 Speaker 4: Is she the one who married her grandpa? 01:00:24 Speaker 3: No, that's Mary Cosby. 01:00:26 Speaker 4: Mary, Mary. See, I only– is she a newer, later season person? No, when is– oh, gee. 01:00:33 Speaker 3: Which one is she? She's kind of a Marilyn Monroe type. 01:00:38 Speaker 4: Oh, yes. 01:00:39 Speaker 3: Married to a husband that has a pyramid scheme. 01:00:40 Speaker 4: She's invited. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 01:00:43 Speaker 3: Terry Crews. 01:00:44 Speaker 4: Terry Crews, invited, yeah. 01:00:47 Speaker 3: Joaquin Phoenix. 01:00:49 Speaker 4: Not invited. Because at my parties, I love to serve milk. And I know he's got a big problem with people drinking milk, and that's just not– me and my friends, that's how we get down with big glasses or bowls of milk. Cow's milk. Ashley Park. Ashley Park. I don't know if I'm familiar with Ashley Park. 01:01:11 Speaker 3: She's a great actor. 01:01:11 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: But I don't know celebrities that well. 01:01:15 Speaker 4: No, I'm going to not invite her. I'm sorry. 01:01:17 Speaker 3: Tara Reid. 01:01:18 Speaker 4: Tara Reid, not invited. 01:01:20 Speaker 3: Sade. 01:01:21 Speaker 4: Oh, invited. 01:01:22 Speaker 3: That's a good pick. Killian Murphy. 01:01:25 Speaker 4: Invited. That's number 10. 01:01:27 Speaker 3: Number 10. Killian's a great. 01:01:29 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:01:29 Speaker 3: I feel like he's got to be a good guy. 01:01:30 Speaker 4: I think so. 01:01:32 Speaker 3: Something about him that just seems like a good egg to me. 01:01:34 Speaker 4: He seems like a good– he seems like he's a good dad to me for some reason. Oh, interesting. I'm basing that off of nothing. 01:01:42 Speaker 3: I feel like he was just in the movie based on that wonderful short story, the Irish thing that is about kind of a great dad. Oh, yeah. That's where I'm getting that vibe from. Yeah. So it's just– I'm now just kind of admitting that I don't– I can't tell the difference between fiction and reality. I kind of struggle with that. OK. Well, you played the game perfectly. 01:02:01 Speaker 4: Thank you. 01:02:02 Speaker 3: Let's answer a listener question. People are writing in to isaidnogifts at gmail.com. Just kind of everybody that listens to this is a disaster and they need help. This says, hi, Bridger and friend. I started my own business a year ago and have found quite a bit of success through social media with it. That is to say, most of my customers are online, and the more I post stories, daily life, what I'm making, etc., the more sales I get. Posting so much on social media always makes me cringe when I think of my real family and friends saying everything about me. Almost feels like someone walking in on you taking a selfie, if you know what I mean. Oh, I know what you mean. I've overheard friends talking about how annoying it is when people post all the time. In parentheses, was this hinted at me, lol. But if I don't post, I don't make sales. How do you get over what other people think of your online presence? I just know certain family members are judging the shit out of me. Thanks for your help. XO, Hannah. 01:03:02 Speaker 4: Okay. I really relate to you here, Hannah. And I think it's a really tough thing to sort of– I don't know how you make the feeling go away. But I think you have to just like this is what you do for your living. Like you've got to just like you have to do it. 01:03:23 Speaker 3: Certain people just don't care. It doesn't it doesn't occur to them that it's an uncomfortable thing to do. And then there are other people with kind of this barrier. I'm a very good example of this. Every post is a panic. 01:03:38 Speaker 4: I this makes me like you, Hannah. I'm glad that you're like are I'm sad that you feel bad about this, but I feel like I can get a sense from someone's social media preference if they don't have that filter. Right. And you can tell when some people are being more selective. But I always try to like put– you got to– you can't put it all on you because if you really are bothering somebody in your life, like they could unfollow you. 01:04:06 Speaker 3: The mute is right there. 01:04:07 Speaker 4: I'm using it all the time. And I used to– and I feel bad about this, but sometimes I would like mute people selectively like, I have a lot of friends in show business. I understand like when you have a big project coming out, you're going to be posting about it a lot. You can temporarily mute someone and they don't know. And like when Kevin was coming out, I'm certain that there are people in my life that went, I'm going to take a break from Joe for a little bit. And I salute you. 01:04:36 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get to a place where I'm just like willy-nilly posting. I can't imagine any universe where I'm just comfortable putting something on the internet without at least hours of thinking about it. 01:04:49 Speaker 4: I've never felt worse than the like ramp up to that show. Like from when the trailer came out to when it came out because I felt like it was my job to post about it every day. And it's also like at a certain point, I don't have that many followers. So I'm like, I don't know if this is making a difference anymore. 01:05:06 Speaker 3: I actually take it back. It isn't your job. Traditionally, the company that needs to sell the product would– Have– what you do is you set aside some money to advertise the product. But I'm old-fashioned. The idea of asking the person who did all of the other work to then turn to their Instagram following that they don't care about, whatever. 01:05:30 Speaker 4: I mean I've– Then I don't support you because I don't like seeing advertisements for that. It's too upsetting. It's too scary. And it's too weird. And I'm seeing it during the day. I'm seeing it at a bus stop. I don't like it. 01:05:55 Speaker 3: A lot of bus stop and bus things for Ryan Murphy's American Horror Story. 01:05:59 Speaker 4: And I feel like it's like it's just never going to end. I feel like it's been like 20 years of this now. I got to be like it's a big glass. It's a big glass filled with blood. And there's an eyeball floating in it and then there's a spider who's hosting a dinner party. Like what is it about? And then when you watch the show, you don't really understand what it's about either. 01:06:20 Speaker 3: I don't believe any of that even appears in the show. I think those are two separate things. 01:06:25 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they're just like, we're just going to put up the wildest stuff we can think of on a poster and then the show is whatever. Yeah, who knows what she could show. The show is just Jessica Lange and we've given her three wigs. Three. Is that low? 01:06:41 Speaker 3: That seems low. 01:06:45 Speaker 4: Yeah. 01:06:45 Speaker 3: Who knows what Hannah's selling? Illegal gun sales? I don't know. But it seems like she's posting, selling, posting, selling. So I say go for it. 01:06:52 Speaker 4: I mean, we're all doing that now. 01:06:54 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 01:06:55 Speaker 4: It's like it's what are you supposed to do? 01:06:57 Speaker 3: I talked to my sister about this recently. We both have a lot of apprehension. I've kind of been conditioned a little bit to it. She's not in the entertainment business. So there's just a lot of talk about, well, Unfortunately, most people don't even– it doesn't even occur to them that this is bad anymore. It's just like, well, of course you would post everything you could possibly think of all the time. 01:07:18 Speaker 4: And you like have to do it to survive. It's like a bummer. 01:07:22 Speaker 3: Everyone in every industry now has to post. 01:07:26 Speaker 4: It's crazy. Somebody's– it is– it's such a monkey paw. It's like one of these things where it's like, Was the internet worth it for this? 01:07:36 Speaker 2: No. 01:07:37 Speaker 4: Like I always think about like did I errantly make a wish when I was 10 years old and like wouldn't it be cool if Thor had his own movie and now there's like five Thor movies? It's like we don't need that. I feel like the same thing with the internet now. 01:07:54 Speaker 3: It doesn't really feel like the internet really exists anymore. It feels like it became– it dried up and then it was just Instagram that was still there. 01:08:03 Speaker 1: Yeah. 01:08:04 Speaker 3: Terrible thing. Well, Hannah, I feel like you've just got to keep going. I feel like there's a little bit of criticism in how do you get over what other people think of your online presence. It's a little bit– oh, I love how you don't care about what people think of you. You got to make that money, Hannah. 01:08:19 Speaker 4: You got to make the money. You got to make your money. 01:08:21 Speaker 3: You got to go for it, Hannah. And eventually you'll have so much money you'll be able to leave all those losers behind. 01:08:27 Speaker 4: There are some people posting just for no good goddamn reason and they're posting too much. That's an interesting– So you're not doing that. 01:08:34 Speaker 3: There will always be somebody posting something worse than you. 01:08:37 Speaker 4: I always think of like my wife and I have just decided at some point that like we love each other and we tell each other that all the time. So we're never going to do another, hey, it's our anniversary. Twelve years ago, I met you, babe. God, I love you even still. I have some friends who are in what I think are healthy relationships. 01:08:59 Speaker 1: Yes. 01:09:00 Speaker 4: They're still doing that, and they're doing the birthday. They're doing the anniversary. They're doing Mother's Day. They're doing Father's Day. I'm like, how can you? How can you? 01:09:09 Speaker 3: And how were you expressing this before Instagram? 01:09:11 Speaker 4: And why? And what is it like? 01:09:15 Speaker 3: You weren't calling up your friends and family to tell them that it was your wife's birthday in, like, 1998, you know. 01:09:21 Speaker 4: You still make me laugh. Like the way you made me laugh 12 years ago. Who is that for? And then you got to go, like, I know I'd be, like, I'd be so afraid I'm saying the same thing. What pictures are you pulling up? 01:09:33 Speaker 3: You're actually kind of like making people dislike your spouse. 01:09:38 Speaker 4: It just, it makes. You're making them a target. It makes, it also makes me not believe it too. 01:09:43 Speaker 3: Oh, there's a lot of that. Believe me. The more posting that happens, the closer you're getting to something falling apart. I think that's pretty obvious. Well, we answered the question perfectly. 01:09:55 Speaker 4: You're welcome. 01:09:56 Speaker 3: I've got a new T-shirt. I'm so thrilled about this. 01:09:59 Speaker 4: Hey, look. Now, between you and me, if you don't like this, it doesn't fit, whatever. You're going to see me wearing this. I'm making a real gamble to buy another one of my male friends a shirt. Never done that once in my life. 01:10:12 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever bought a friend clothing. I've always said it was funny to buy a friend a pair of jeans. I think that's a very weird thing to get from a friend. But yeah, I don't think I've ever purchased a, it's a big, it's like buying furniture for somebody. 01:10:26 Speaker 4: I bought a friend a hat and I haven't given it to him yet because I haven't seen him. But I felt weird. But that feels like it's like, okay, it's like a sports team hat. And I'm like, I know he likes this team. And it's like very like, it was like a handmade like boot, like illegally made hat that I got in Toronto. But even then I was like, it was like, I'm talking to Holly like, is it weird if I buy him this hat? And she's like, It's OK, Joe, if you want to buy your friend a hat. 01:10:54 Speaker 3: It's just a little like I want– I'm thinking about you visually. Like I want to change your appearance. I don't know. There's something odd about giving somebody else clothing, thinking about your friends that way. 01:11:06 Speaker 4: And it feels like if it's a little bit off or something or you've misread them, like You wear a lot of vintage t-shirts. So high stakes. I feel very confident about that. But I wouldn't buy you like any– like buying you a pair of pants, I'd be like, I don't know. That's a whole other personal thing. Very personal thing. And the fit is so important and. 01:11:29 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're really– that's something you've– I don't even know. 01:11:34 Speaker 4: Spouse. I don't know. 01:11:36 Speaker 3: It's very tricky territory. But I also have my Three Stooges DVD. 01:11:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. And these are three guys that are buying hats for each other, I think. These are three men. This is the cure to the loneliness epidemic, male loneliness epidemic, I think, is in the three students. Because these guys are not brothers. They're three friends. They won't take a job without their other two buds getting involved. So something we can take from that. 01:12:01 Speaker 3: Oh, Joe, I'm so glad you could be here. 01:12:03 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. What a fun chat. 01:12:06 Speaker 3: Listener, the podcast is over. Close the door. I love you. 01:12:12 Speaker 4: Goodbye. 01:12:17 Speaker 3: I Said No Gifts is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Ellis Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Talladay. The theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann, and we couldn't do it without our booker Patrick Kottner. You must follow the show on Instagram at I Said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see the gifts? 01:12:43 Speaker 1: When I invited you here I thought I made myself perfectly clear When you're a guest in my home You. 01:12:56 Speaker 2: Gotta come to me empty-handed I said no gifts, your presence is presence enough. 01:13:05 Speaker 1: And I already had too much stuff. 01:13:10 Speaker 2: So how do you dare disobey me? 01:13:13 Speaker 1: Guitar solo