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Speaker 1: And Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein. The Heisman Trophy officially

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Speaker 1: in the hands of Jaden Daniels. We've got a new proposal,

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Speaker 3: said your piece. You did a great job. Where in

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Speaker 3: the news world do you want to start? Do you

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Speaker 3: want to start with the Heisman? Since that I mean,

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Speaker 3: with early Heisman discussion. Do you want to talk portal.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to want talk coaching news? It's it's

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Speaker 3: Ty Wilde.

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Speaker 1: It is Ty wild Let's do it. It's not so

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Speaker 1: breaking at this point, Dan, but nonetheless, Jayden Daniels, Jade

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Speaker 1: Daniels is your Heisman Trophy winner. Interestingly enough, this was

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Speaker 1: the closest Heisman Trophy race since twenty eighteen, when Kyler

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Speaker 1: So Jaden Daniels becomes the third player from LSU to

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Speaker 1: win the Heisman. The second quarterback the last quarterback was

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Speaker 1: He edged out Michael Pennix Junior. And it was close.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty nine points for Jaden Daniels seventeen hundred and

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Speaker 1: I don't think this was a huge surprise for anybody

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm don't really care about the Heisman Trophy.

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Speaker 1: I have no problem with that. But the Jade and Daniels,

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Speaker 1: Well deserved Jadan Daniel's. Congratulations to him, Congratulations to LSU.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into some of those moves that you

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Speaker 1: the dumb and dumber sound. I like to play that

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Speaker 3: How do we maximize value as a conference ahead of

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Speaker 3: the next time we sign a TV deal? And it's

436
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Speaker 3: it's sort of perfectly in line with what every program

437
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 3: is like, what are we doing for twenty twenty five

438
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Speaker 3: though with our recruiting class, what do you like if

439
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: there's always like, how are we positioning ourselves for that

440
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 3: next thing? And so under that umbrella that everybody's trying

441
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Speaker 3: to make as much money as possible all of the time,

442
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Speaker 3: and that is always going to be through TV right

443
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Speaker 3: now anyway, it's wild to now see some more equitable

444
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Speaker 3: propositions here.

445
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Speaker 1: Proposals. Yeah, I agree. Look, it's it's an interesting time.

446
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Speaker 1: It's only going to get more interesting. We'll do our

447
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Speaker 1: best to stay ahead of this story. We'll bring that

448
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Speaker 1: on at some point. I guess I just talked shot

449
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Speaker 1: that the other day. We'll bring that on here to

450
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Speaker 1: talk more about where things go next.

451
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Agree?

452
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Speaker 1: Shall we get to the transfer portal and all things

453
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Speaker 1: transfer portal? Ish? Please transfer portal? All right? What is

454
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Speaker 1: going on with the transport? We did a whole show

455
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Speaker 1: in the portal? Yeah, last Tuesday. A week later, Dan,

456
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Speaker 1: where do things stand.

457
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Speaker 3: In a terrific place? I don't know, it's really interesting.

458
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Speaker 3: So ok. The school that I pay closest attention to, Oregon,

459
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Speaker 3: has I think the biggest quarterback commitment so far in

460
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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel. Depending on how you feel about Brock, Vandergriff

461
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Speaker 3: and Kentucky, I don't know. There's obviously still a huge names.

462
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Speaker 3: Kyle McCord is being I think heavily corded with Julian

463
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Speaker 3: Fleming by Nebraska. I believe I saw The Dylan Gabriel

464
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Speaker 3: thing is fascinating. He's been a very good, if not

465
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Speaker 3: like fully able to close in on excellent for a

466
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Speaker 3: couple of different reasons, you know, health or you know,

467
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Speaker 3: being at Oklahoma during a transitionary time. I think he's

468
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Speaker 3: kind of perfectly set up to have a ton of

469
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Speaker 3: success in Eugene. They've recruited the line very well. The

470
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Speaker 3: running back room is deep, the receiver room is super promising,

471
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Speaker 3: tight end is very promising. Another interesting recruiting and portal

472
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Speaker 3: class and positive organ is going to probably target another

473
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Speaker 3: receiver or two. They're likely losing Troy Franklin, their number

474
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Speaker 3: one guy. I just assume receiver is going to be

475
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Speaker 3: another priority in the portal for them, as will you know,

476
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Speaker 3: probably every position. So I think him coming in as

477
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Speaker 3: a ready made, very good to great quarterback and I'm

478
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma opinions of him I think are absolutely valid. You know,

479
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Speaker 3: had a couple of down moments this year. You look

480
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Speaker 3: at some of those stretches of the Kansas game, but

481
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Speaker 3: I don't think Oregon could have done better than Dylan

482
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Speaker 3: Gabriel right now in the portal. So as an Oregon human,

483
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty pleased with him. I think he's gonna put

484
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Speaker 3: up a lot of yardage in a big ten that

485
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think is going to offer a

486
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Speaker 3: lot in the way of offenses that can keep up

487
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Speaker 3: with the best of Oregon, but we'll be crazy fun

488
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Speaker 3: to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Kyle McCord things interesting. Com m accord per

490
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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven. He's got like one hundred percent

491
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Speaker 1: crystal ball grade. I'm going to Nebraska, Okay, there's some

492
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Speaker 1: speculation that maybe Julian Fleming could end up there as well,

493
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Speaker 1: as you know, Nebraska is in a rough spot at

494
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Speaker 1: the quarterback position this past season. You know, part of

495
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Speaker 1: that could have stemmed from the line, which wasn't very good.

496
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, they just didn't

497
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Speaker 1: get much, if anything from Jeff Simms. They were dealing

498
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Speaker 1: with backups and Chubb a Pardies and it just it

499
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Speaker 1: was a non starter on the offensive side of the ball.

500
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Speaker 1: The defense was not bad, but they need more pop

501
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Speaker 1: on that offensive side of things. And Kyle McCord to

502
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Speaker 1: be a decent prize. I mean, he's not moving that

503
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Speaker 1: much farther west, staying in the same conference, and you know,

504
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Speaker 1: if Julian Fleming ends up there as well, at least

505
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Speaker 1: that's a point of familiarity. So I don't I don't

506
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Speaker 1: think that's bad move at all for Nebraska. I think

507
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Speaker 1: you'll take whatever you can get, and to get mccorda

508
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Speaker 1: by will be a nice thing for them. The quarterback

509
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Speaker 1: market right now is crazy interesting because you're starting to

510
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Speaker 1: see some of these crystal ball grades go up. Haven't

511
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Speaker 1: seen much on the Dante more front. You mentioned Brock

512
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Speaker 1: vandergriff as well. That's an interesting name coming out of Georgia.

513
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Speaker 1: Decides he's going to transfer. But some of the bigger

514
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: names still out there right Cameron Ward still out there,

515
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Speaker 1: Will Howard's still out there. We've heard rumors about these guys.

516
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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard seems like he's headed to Notre Dame. Have

517
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Speaker 1: not seen that officially reported anywhere at time of recording.

518
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Speaker 1: But even guys like Will Rogers, who we've talked about

519
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: making sense potentially at Washington, to Kwan Finn, an exciting

520
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: name transferring out of Toledo, Blake Shape and going to

521
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State. A lot going on. Taylor Green looks like

522
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Speaker 1: he's going to Arkansas, sort of the late addition to

523
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Speaker 1: the transfer portal transferring out of Boise State going to Arkansas.

524
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Speaker 1: So some of these names are really starting to get

525
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Speaker 1: paired up with their eventual destinations. It'll just be interesting

526
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Speaker 1: to see where things shake out in the very end.

527
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Speaker 1: The big one, of course, that I think I'm watching

528
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Speaker 1: is Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean cam Ward. His name has come up

530
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Speaker 3: a lot with Ohio State. Certainly they have what Devin Brown, Lincoln,

531
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Speaker 3: I think it's Kleinholtz was their blue chip last year,

532
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Speaker 3: and then they've got Nolan coming in this year, so

533
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: there are options on the roster. But certainly with how

534
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Speaker 3: they've recruited receiver. Offensive line hasn't been great, but certainly

535
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Speaker 3: with how they've recruited receiver, like, you need somebody this year, right,

536
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 3: this is not a developmental program. You need somebody to

537
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Speaker 3: come in this year and be of conference championship winning caliber.

538
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Speaker 3: So no, Ohio State's going to be fascinating. I saw

539
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Speaker 3: Sam Levitt from Michigan State, recent blue chipper goes to

540
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Speaker 3: Arizona State, so at least builds depth there. You know,

541
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Speaker 3: I heard Jayden Rashata was you know, unsure about his future,

542
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 3: but seems to be sticking with the Sun Devils. So

543
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Speaker 3: they have depth. With Drew Pine transferring out, it's fascinating.

544
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Speaker 3: Where does Dante morphall in all this, he could be

545
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Speaker 3: going to Oregon as well.

546
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Speaker 1: Would that make sense for him to go to Oregon

547
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Speaker 1: behind Dylan Gabriel.

548
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Speaker 3: So some people feel as if he was probably thrust

549
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Speaker 3: into the action too early at UCLA and would have

550
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 3: benefited from sitting and learning and maturing and you know,

551
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: getting into a rhythm as a college football player and

552
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Speaker 3: not just have immediate ex expectations as like the best

553
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Speaker 3: quarterback recruit in UCLA's modern history to come in and

554
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Speaker 3: immediately be that savior. And because of injury, he was

555
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 3: sort of put on the field pretty early on and

556
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: I think really struggled with confidence and turnovers. So the

557
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: thinking is, and I think, you know, we've seen his

558
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Speaker 3: name come up with Michigan, and we'll see what happens

559
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 3: with JJ McCarthy with Miami. Certainly seems like they're active

560
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: in the portal market at quarterback right now. The thinking

561
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Speaker 3: with Oregon is still in Gabriel's one year and then

562
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Speaker 3: you get Dante Moore with the ability to take that

563
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Speaker 3: red shirt ish year, come in a few games, maybe

564
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: the postseason, get into a better offense and a better

565
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Speaker 3: program than where UCLA was last year and sort of

566
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Speaker 3: get the seasoning that he's always needed and be better

567
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Speaker 3: equipped in a top tier program to step in and

568
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Speaker 3: be successful. So it would be a time investment in

569
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Speaker 3: his future. Oregon, I think has they don't have a

570
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Speaker 3: blue chip quarterback or an obvious blue chip guy in

571
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Speaker 3: this year's class. They had one guy decommit and then

572
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty five they do. So the timing kind

573
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Speaker 3: of works out for him to play a year or

574
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Speaker 3: two after sitting. If he looks at his other options

575
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Speaker 3: and says, I don't know that that's a place that's

576
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: set up to sort of step in and succeed immediately,

577
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Speaker 3: then the move would be, well, just go where you

578
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: want to go and have it be at a place

579
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: that you're comfortable learning right now, he was thinking he.

580
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Speaker 1: Was committed to Oregon as well.

581
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Speaker 3: He was committed to Oregon for a long time and

582
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Speaker 3: Oregon just lost their long time backup, Ty Thompson to

583
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Speaker 3: the Portal, so there is space there. They will have

584
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: a red shirt freshman this coming year, but there is

585
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: space to come in and you know, build depth and learn.

586
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: So that would be the thinking there.

587
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw on a different note that Trevor E

588
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: ten has also thrown his name in the portal. The

589
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: big name, yep, the big name running back for Florida.

590
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Florida will be very very interesting to watch.

591
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Speaker 3: Walter Nolan visited Oregon, and I assume he's going to

592
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: visit a couple other places before it makes his decision.

593
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Former number two overall recruit a couple of years ago,

594
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Speaker 3: so he seems to be a pretty literal and figurative

595
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 3: value add to anybody's defensive line. A and M has

596
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: lost a bunch of guys, a bunch of really good contributors,

597
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: which is not unusual for a team replacing its coach,

598
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: but with how they've recruited, you know, these guys are

599
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 3: just going to get a lot of attention, a lot

600
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Speaker 3: of high profile names out of A and M.

601
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Speaker 1: Who else, Yeah, I mean the other big one that

602
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Speaker 1: I think, well, I know is news since we recorded

603
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Speaker 1: last time. Nyland Green, the cornerback for Georgia, has thrown

604
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Speaker 1: his name in the portal. Currently per twenty four to seven,

605
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: the top rated cornerback that is available, Toreano Pride from

606
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Speaker 1: Clemson opted to go with Miss Zoo.

607
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the other big one from Clemson as well, Andrew mccooba.

608
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: I believe rumored to be hot and heavy with Texas

609
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: safety from Clemson and you know, not unexpected, but schools

610
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: like Washington State and Oregon State are losing a bunch

611
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: of dudes. Especially Oregon State with some young, promising defensive players.

612
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 3: Could see them moving on to big places because Trent

613
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: Bray has done a very nice job identifying defensive players

614
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: and developing. We saw that especially in the secondary the

615
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two seasons. So the top end there, Aiden Childs,

616
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: who was destined to be the next great Oregon State quarterback.

617
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: He entered the portal after Jonathan Smith leaves and a

618
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of steam is that what we

619
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: called a lot of steam? Yeah, with him following Jonathan

620
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Speaker 3: Smith and his offensive coordinator to Michigan State to fulfill

621
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Speaker 3: some of that promise, hopefully for the Spartans.

622
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Speaker 1: All right, well, speaking of transfers, I mean, I guess

623
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Speaker 1: it's not technically the transfer pro I'm gonna play this anyway.

624
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: That's okay.

625
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: Coaches now, and a lot of movement on the coaching

626
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Speaker 1: front too.

627
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: I agree. I mean Willie Fritz, John Sumrall Manny.

628
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Speaker 1: Diazany Diaz going to Duke Yeah.

629
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Speaker 3: I think that's a It seems like it'll be a

630
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 3: big win for Duke and a lot of assistants being

631
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: hired to places with new coaches. To sawn'm Mike Elco's

632
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: finishing or finishing out his staff. I guess the Texas

633
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: A and m filling out his staff. I saw matt Ense,

634
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: North Dakota State's head coach going to stay with North

635
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: Dakota State for the balance the duration of the FCS playoffs,

636
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: but we'll be coaching linebackers and will be an assistant

637
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: head coach for USC as they attempt to. I wasn't

638
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: going to say rebuild, but build.

639
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: Yes in La you kind of alluded to this earlier,

640
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought up the matt Enns move.

641
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: What is USC doing on defense? Because this has been

642
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: the bone of contention, right It's not offense. The offense

643
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: by the largest pretty good, but defensively the two years

644
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: that Lincoln Riley's been there, they haven't done anything on defense.

645
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: You could argue they got worse this past year. So

646
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: what is it that they are doing. I saw they

647
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: named a defensive coordinator. They're obviously doing a linebacker coach. Now,

648
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: what is the status of that operation.

649
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: They're going to try to get in as many good

650
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: players as humanly possible in the portal because it's not

651
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: happening on the high school trail right now for USC.

652
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: So the first thing is you got to get you

653
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: got to get talent in. It doesn't matter how good

654
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: your coaches are. You need guys that can beat blocks,

655
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 3: that can stand up in coverage, that can tackle in

656
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: the open field, and USC doesn't have that right now.

657
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: So they're presumably going to be very aggressive in the portal.

658
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: It seems like they're going to have a very specific

659
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Speaker 3: identity that isn't what it was last year with their

660
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: new coordinator Danton Lynn and Matt enz. I know North

661
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 3: Dakota State has seemed more mortal, but has you know,

662
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: credentials as a very very good football coach. And linebacker

663
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: has been one of many positions of help in coaching

664
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Speaker 3: and talent wise at USC. So if the linebackers are

665
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: filling lanes better, if they know their assignments better, it's

666
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: going to give USC a better chance against a Big

667
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: ten honestly still kind of lacking an offense. We'll see

668
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: if Nebraska gets better in the portal at quarterback We'll

669
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Speaker 3: see if Iowa somehow gets better with a new offensive

670
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: mind in charge. We'll see if Michigan State and Jonathan Smith,

671
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 3: it almost assuredly will. He's been very good on offense

672
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: wherever he's been, but it could take some time. Penn

673
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 3: State's can be making changes. I don't have USC schedule

674
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: in front of me, but these are a lot of

675
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: these schools are still built pretty well on the line,

676
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 3: and so if all you need to do is push

677
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Speaker 3: USC back and stay on the field against what USC's

678
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 3: defensive roster currently looks like you can do that, you

679
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: can absolutely do that. So they need to get much better,

680
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: and it really is just like they need thirty better

681
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 3: players right now.

682
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a talent thing on some level. I'm interested

683
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: to see what happens with the Penn State defensive coordinator spot. Yeah,

684
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I think we're probably looking at Anthony Poindexter, who has

685
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: been on that staff for a while. It seems like

686
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: there's a lot of steam on him as the as

687
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: the heir apparent to what Manny Diaz built over the

688
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: last couple of seasons. There have been rumors about Joe Rossi,

689
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 1: but Joe Rossi from Minnesota decide to go to Michigan

690
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: State to join that Jonathan Smith's staff. Elijah Robinson is

691
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: an interesting name. He's he's got Penn State roots, but

692
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: he's going to be the defensive coordinator at Syracuse. He's

693
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: obviously going to coach the bowl game for Texas A

694
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: and M before he leaves. So unless James Franklin is

695
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: able to pull some antics and pry him away from

696
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: fran Brown in the new system up at Syracuse, presumably

697
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: he's going to be off the books as well.

698
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Speaker 3: By the way, good use of pride, right, because James

699
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: Franklin and Brent Priye was an internal hire, right, That's right?

700
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: That defensive coordinator? Who did he take over for Shoop?

701
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 3: Brent Prye took over for Bob Shoop. I believe you, Okay, okay,

702
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of those a stop.

703
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, if I had a bet on somebody, that

704
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Speaker 1: would be the name that I bet on. But I'm

705
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: not privy to any insider infos, So don't take that

706
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: to the to the bank quite yet. Any other moves

707
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: on this front that are of interest to you or

708
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: anything that you're watching names that sort of thing. I'm

709
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: eagerly awaiting the day when I get the news that

710
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has fired Jared Parker defensive coordinator, although I

711
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 1: will admit, given the fact that it's now the second

712
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: week of December and there hasn't been any news on

713
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: that front, the only news we've seen on the Notre

714
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: Dame coaching front is that they hired Mike Brown to

715
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: be their new wide receiver coach. Remember they got rid

716
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: of Chancey Stucky. They bringing down Mike Brown, who was

717
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, you know, presumably one of the up and

718
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: comers in the field. So at least on that front,

719
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: it seems like there's some steam on getting a good

720
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: guy to be their wide receiver coach. I of course

721
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: thought that about Chancey Stucky as well, but for whatever reason,

722
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: that didn't work out. I cannot believe they have not

723
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: moved on Jared Parker yet. It is. It is giving

724
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: me serious Odjita. I'm not kidding you, I am. I

725
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: am going to be fit to be tied if they

726
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: don't make a move with their offensive coordinator spot. The

727
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: longer we go without hearing an announcement, the more I

728
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: we just have to start believing that there's not going

729
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: to be a move, and that bothers me. That bothers

730
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: me to no end, because I mean, I can just

731
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: look at the numbers. I could do a whole podcast

732
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: on that. I'm just saying something should change because last

733
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: season what we saw was not good, just wasn't good objectively.

734
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Speaker 3: We'll soon learn just how good of an offensive coordinator

735
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Colin Klein is as he makes the move to Texas

736
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: A and M from Kansas State, because he's had it

737
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: pretty good at Kansas State in terms of what the

738
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,439
Speaker 3: line has generally looked like in front of experienced quarterbacks.

739
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of continuity of Kansas State, which

740
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 3: certainly not a word you'd use to describe what's happening

741
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: at Texas A and M right now, hopefully for the better,

742
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: but I think that's a a high ceiling move for

743
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. I mentioned Ryan Gunderson is the

744
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: name that I think is moving to Michigan State, which

745
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: Jonathan Smith at offensive coordinator pit hired Cade Bell from

746
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 3: Western Carolina to take over that offense. Has been a

747
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 3: very good offense for Western Carolina. And excuse me when

748
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: I said Ryan Gunerson is at Oregon State. It is

749
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: Brian Lindgren at Michigan State coming over. I saw Andy

750
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 3: Avlos taking over are likely at TCU for Joe Gillespie,

751
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: who is let go by Sunny Dyke's I think that's

752
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: an interesting one. Otherwise, I think Clark Lee is taking

753
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: over the Vanderbilt defense.

754
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: The Jake's Babbitole thing, Yeah, I don't know how that fits.

755
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: Baylor means the new Jim Chaney's an offensive consultant. I know,

756
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 3: I get it.

757
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: But he runs a very fast system. It seems almost

758
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: counter to what Baylor's been doing the last couple of years.

759
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: And that's a good thing. Ty No, it's a very

760
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: good thing. It is a good thing. I just wonder

761
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: if there's personnel in place to run that system.

762
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: Sure, my look, Cal hasn't had a ton of personnel,

763
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: and Jake's babbittall has, you know, definitely succeeded in his

764
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: h you know, return year to Berkeley. What about Willie

765
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: Fritz to Houston. I mean he does his win.

766
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: You mentioned it before.

767
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: All he does is win. I love that for Houston,

768
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 3: I really really do. Plus having the geographic familiarity in

769
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 3: New Orleans, East Texas, like I just's he's not young.

770
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: I think he's in his early sixties. But I love

771
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 3: it in a changing big twelve to have like somebody

772
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: who exclusively wins. I love the move. By the way,

773
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: I was, I was texting with a friend of ours

774
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: who went to TCU, and he asked me about Andy Avlos,

775
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: and that just made me look at the TCU twenty

776
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: twenty four schedule softer than a baby's bottom tie.

777
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a look.

778
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 3: Pull up the twenty twenty four TCU schedule. It is extraordinary.

779
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: At Stanford at SMU, at Baylor. These are dates to

780
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: be announced. Yeah, these aren't. These aren't back to back

781
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: back or anything like that, but these are the game.

782
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: So at Stanford at SMU, at Baylor, at Cincinnati, Okay,

783
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: at Kansas home against Arizona, home against Tech home against Houston,

784
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, UCF and Utah are on the road. At Utah,

785
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: they'd go eleven to one if they're any good.

786
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look, somebody could go eleven and one. I

787
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: don't know TCU is, but like in terms of lack

788
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 3: of heavy hitting offenses, yeah, pretty great. On first look,

789
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 3: we're very early in the portal cycle. We have no

790
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: idea what these rosters and coaching stabs staves will ultimately

791
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: look like but pretty ideal, Like this kind of seems like,

792
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 3: gotta get it done this year, Sonny, Or when are

793
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 3: you because year one was great, but those weren't your guys.

794
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 3: That was a tougher conference that you were still able

795
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: to come out of. And if you're not doing it

796
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 3: against this schedule, I think there's some pressure. This is

797
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: a great schedule.

798
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: This is the kind of schedule that you pick via

799
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: a snake draft. This is incredible.

800
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: How did this person get away with this draft?

801
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Beautiful? Yeah, either that or like an auto selection, but wow,

802
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: this is this is ideal. Look, I mean going to

803
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: Utah is not a picnic. Kansas could be weird, Kansas

804
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: would probably be pretty good in Arizona at home. You know,

805
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: it's a tough game, but.

806
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: Rather have them at home? Yeah?

807
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Are those the three toughest games? Oklahoma State probably would

808
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: like to have a word. But nonetheless, wow, that's extremely

809
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: workable for TCU sort of no excuse, it's right.

810
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

811
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: Wow.

812
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, those are I mean some of the items

813
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: that have been of interest. And we'll see if there

814
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: are new surprise entrants into the portal or opt outs.

815
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 3: I saw the Sam Hartman's not playing in the Sun Bowl, right,

816
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's a wild season tie. And by

817
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: the way, in nine days we have the early signing

818
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: period for the class of twenty twenty four.

819
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: All in that crazy, crazy wild Yeah. The Sam Harman

820
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: opt out I think makes the Sun Bowl a veritable mess.

821
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: It's just a mess. Nobody's playing in that game.

822
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 3: See. The sun Ball to me is always must watch

823
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: because there is just something a little bit chaotic.

824
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: It's always chaotic.

825
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, just representative of the good of bowl season. About

826
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: the Sun.

827
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Bowl is going to be a mess. You gotta watch

828
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 1: that one.

829
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

830
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Speaker 1: We will go through, I think on the Thursday episode

831
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and we'll talk in a little bit more detail about

832
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Speaker 1: some of the other opt outs. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: there are any other opt outs on the level of

834
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman that are of interest to you. I think

835
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Speaker 1: the tailing green one because he entered the transfer portal

836
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Speaker 3: use this opportunity to retire a couple of dudes from

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Speaker 3: the season. I was like, look, the dude status of

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Speaker 3: this person is undeniable.

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Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's go free dudes that we need to

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Speaker 1: retire that are coming back.

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Speaker 3: They're coming back, but they have to come back, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they got.

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Speaker 1: To come back. They're gonna be you know, they're going

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Speaker 1: to be playing again on the college level. But we

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Speaker 1: can't use them again if we do dood alerts again

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Speaker 1: next year.

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Speaker 3: We just say, I think that the dood alert is

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Speaker 3: to raise awareness, right, I think of excellence, and so

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Speaker 3: I think the awareness is like Jalen Milroe is retired.

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Speaker 1: Can we agree on that one. That was the first

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Speaker 1: thing that I thought up. We should we should retire

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Speaker 1: the doe jersey of Jalen Milroe because I agree he

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Speaker 1: needs no more awareness. The awareness is already there for

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe. There's a pretty strong case to be made

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Speaker 1: that he's one of like the five Heisman front runners

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Speaker 1: next season. So that guy, I think I think we

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Speaker 1: retire Jalen Milroe. I think I agree with you on

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Speaker 1: that one. Here's another name.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna hate me for this. To Tyro McMillan.

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Speaker 3: I think that's fine. I think that's it's a worthy retirement.

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Speaker 1: He'll be mentioned, tem Max should be mentioned. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to stop talking about to Tyro McMillan. But to

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Speaker 1: Tyro McMillan's a awesome receivers for Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, best returning receiver in America. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair, So I'll throw him out there.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any other names you'd like to retire?

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Speaker 3: To Olly Gordon? How about that? Or do you think

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Speaker 3: his status is not cemented because it was more of

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Speaker 3: like the final half of the season is when he

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Speaker 3: really exploded.

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Speaker 1: And he's also transferring now too.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he is transferred. I think that was

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Speaker 3: a fake account, ty was you can fact check this.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a fake on three account. Which

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Speaker 3: that by the way, if you make a fake on

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Speaker 3: three Twitter account, what a winner you must be, What

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Speaker 3: an absolute life winner you must be to make an

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Speaker 3: on I gett that. I think you got got Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to tell it to have to tell you

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Speaker 3: on the show, damn. But yeah, I think I believe

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Speaker 3: you got.

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Speaker 1: Got all right. So maybe Alli Gordon can stay just

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Speaker 1: because of that, because I apparently need more awareness around

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Speaker 1: Ali Gordon. Any other names here?

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Speaker 3: What about Quinnshaw Judkins. I think that's sort of self

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Speaker 3: evident right now. His name wasn't as big this year,

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Speaker 3: but I think it's it's pretty reasonable to say, like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's just a dude. We don't have to like remind

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Speaker 3: people they know it.

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Speaker 1: Quinn Shawn Judkins. All right, I'm okay with that. I'm

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Speaker 1: okay with retiring Quinshawn Judkins just because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we've talked a lot about him in

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Speaker 1: the last two years and he's always of course we

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Speaker 1: have he's always on the list. M He's just always

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: on the list.

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Speaker 3: I'm good with that. And I guess depending on what

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Speaker 3: happens with JJ McCarthy, if he decides to come back

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Speaker 3: or not, we can just say like, hey, if he's back,

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Speaker 3: we know he's a dude.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 1: If JJ McCarthy ends up coming back, we can't we

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Speaker 1: can't use him again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need to interrupt people's Saturday late night

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Speaker 3: Saturdays and be like, hey, you know who else is good?

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Speaker 3: JJ mccatt. Now we know he's good. That's all.

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Speaker 1: We gave out bronze, silver, and golden goblets the last

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Speaker 1: couple weeks for our dood alerts. This year, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to make new graphics to retire their jersey.

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Speaker 3: Now, but the numbers and the rafters, yeah, yeah, we'll hang.

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Speaker 3: I left really hard at the Please Don't Destroy movie.

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Speaker 3: By the way, last night, I don't watch movies that often.

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Speaker 3: That's my movie recommendation. It's like the Hunt for Treasure

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Speaker 3: at Foggy Mountain or something. It's on Peacock.

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Speaker 1: It was hilariously funny, hilarious, It's funny, all right. Well,

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Speaker 1: look last but certainly not least. We appreciate everybody who

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Speaker 1: I know the thousands upon thousands of people, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not just making that up. We've been doing this for

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Speaker 3: through all of these this season. I'm going through all

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Speaker 1: Boom that easy?

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Speaker 1: That's all I got. Dan, appreciate everybody hanging with us

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Speaker 1: here through the off season. Bowl season starts up this week.

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Speaker 3: Stay solid, peace,