1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: The Fields Auto Group proudly presents Huddle. 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Up with Bucky. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Brooks, JP Shadrick, John Oser, and NFL Network analyst and 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your 5 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jackwars. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: We're not done. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: We're going to continue to work to build this team 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: and makes as potent as we can going into the 9 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: regular season. 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now. 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. It is Wednesday, May 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 2: thirty first, JP Shadrick, NFL Network analyst, Bucky Brooks, Jaguars 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: dot Com senior writer John Oser. Give us a listen 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 2: on the podcast page. All our shows available at Jaguars 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: dot Com or the official Jaguars Podcast Network. That's on iHeartRadio, iTunes, Spotify, 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: or wherever you download your pods. It's the final day 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: of May. Hurricane season officially starts tomorrow, June first. We're 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: in the heat of the summer. 19 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 4: John, Yeah, and. 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 5: I didn't know that about hurricane season, so now I 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 5: know that, and now we can talk on football. 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: I think it's like tax free weekend, Buckierre over here. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: You guys don't worry about that in La too much, 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: but over here. You got a hurricane preparedness is a 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: big deal, man. 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big I was also, like John, I 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: was unaware about it being the first day of hurricane season. 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: That is a I guess that's kind of frightening for 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: me coming on the west coast. I don't know much 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: about the hurricane stuff. That's that's kind of crazy. 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: Hey, you grew up in North Carolina. You know all 32 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 4: that hurricanes, but. 33 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 5: You weren't on a little bit on the east coast 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 5: of North Carolina where they're pretty much weekly. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they they are there. That's why 36 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: the hockey team is called the Hurricanes. But I didn't 37 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: see it a lot. I think the last one I 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: saw maybe Hurricane fran If that was something, it was 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 3: fran El Nino. 40 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 6: Those those are the one. 41 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, El Nino is not a hurricane. 42 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: It's not hurricanes. It's a cycle of what's a weather term, 43 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 4: which which gets you? I guess in the hurricane rain, 44 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: E'm going to drop Jets. 45 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: It's Yankees and basketball are both sports terms so. 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: Much the same one. 47 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Hey, well, let's get back to something that isn't ar Lane, 48 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: and that's Jaguars football. Of course, Phase three organized team activities. Well, 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 2: camer Robinson is out there. That's been a storyline this week. 50 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: He wasn't out there in the open practice last week. 51 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: He was out there the next day last week, so 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: he's been around. It was the first time I think 53 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: the media has been able to see him out there, 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: only having Ingram Josh Allen not at attendance. That's the 55 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: good news, Bucky. Everybody pretty much is here and they're 56 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: getting a lot of work done. 57 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 58 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: No, it's great to have maximum attendants. I mean, when 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: you get that kind of commitment from the team, even 60 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: though it's a volunteer, you love where he's trending and loud. 61 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: Doug has been really good about saying, hey, these things 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: are voluntary or whatever, but when players show up, he 63 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: really means something to the team that everyone is there, 64 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: that they're all working, they're trying to get on. 65 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 6: The same page. 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 3: Look, it may not mean anything and we can get 67 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: to the regular season, but certainly for the chemistry and 68 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: the camaraderie, it's good to have everyone in the building. 69 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, the cam thing shows you the overplayed nature of 70 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 5: these things sometimes. First of all, the media is not 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 5: there every day, so you report one day makes it 72 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 5: look like he's not there for the whole time. Second 73 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 5: of all, as a veteran, again, I have zero problem 74 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 5: with Josh Allen being here. I've I think I've got 75 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: to know him a little bit over the last few years. 76 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 5: There's no doubt that he is somewhere working, you know, 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: and that is what you're supposed to be able to 78 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: do in the OSE program. It's why they're voluntary. So 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 5: I think most it's good if most of the team 80 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 5: is here. If one or two experienced veterans who prepare 81 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 5: in a different way aren't here, especially at a pass 82 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 5: rush position or even left tackle, how much of those 83 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 5: guys really getting out of this individually? Quarterbacks, skill guys, 84 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 5: defensive backs love to have him here. Beyond that, I'm 85 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: all right with it. 86 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: Well here from I'm one of those skill guys. Coming 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: up in just a little bit, Calvin Ridley and see 88 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: how he's moving along in this offseason program. There's a 89 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: new kicker in Randon McManus, cut from the Broncos, tenth 90 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: year pro signed by the Jags. In his previous nine 91 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: years eighty one percent kicker forty of seventy two from 92 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 2: fifty plus, So why Jacksonville for McManus. 93 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 7: One of the team's up and coming. You know, I'm 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 7: winning the NFC South last year, you know, obviously incredible 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 7: comeback in the playoff game as well. It's been a 96 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 7: long time since I've been in the playoffs, you know, 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 7: my first two years in the league. And you know, 98 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 7: you get a chance to get back there. You know, 99 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 7: everyone dreams of kicking game winning field goals are described, 100 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 7: but it's also even better to be in the playoffs 101 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 7: doing those things. And so I thrive on those scenarios. 102 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 7: And so I wanted to come to a team. Obviously 103 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 7: I watched Doug you know when the whin the Super 104 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 7: Bowl with the Eagles, and so with a great tradition, 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 7: he's got, you know, building here and a great organization, 106 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 7: a great place to live, you know, from my family, 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 7: and I said, I was trying to bring my leadership 108 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 7: and my tenure here to put us over the edge. 109 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: His career long sixty one yards that came in Los 110 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: Angeles on the road in twenty twenty one. But he's 111 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: over his career better on the road than he was 112 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: in Denver. Oddly enough, percentage wise, eighty five percent on 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 2: the road and field goals seventy nine percent a mile high. 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: John Bucky, you know you're not in Duvall. You're out 115 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: in LA paying big time state taxes. So what was 116 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 5: your reaction? You know there has been a reaction among 117 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 5: some fans here just shocked at this. To me, this 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 5: was a very logical move once mcmahonus came available. 119 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 4: Tell me what you thought of it now. 120 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I think you're always trying to get better. 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I think what people have to understand, whatever happened the 122 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: previous year doesn't mean that you're guaranteed the spot the 123 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 3: next year. Roley Patterson came through with a clutch kick, 124 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: a handful of kicks. But Doug always wanted better, always 125 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: wanted to upgrade. What you want is someone who is 126 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 3: nails when the ball reaches the thirty five or the 127 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: forty yard line. You want to be able to attack 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: those three points up on the board and feel good 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 3: about it. There's something about having a veteran who has 130 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: done in the way that McManus has done it that 131 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 3: is comforting to the coaching staff. Also, you heard, like 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: just in terms of people talking about the kickoff, you know, 133 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: the new rule with the kickoff, like in fair catches 134 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: in those things, you want to be able to use 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 3: all aspects of the kicking game to your advantagement. Manus 136 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: gives you an opportunity to do that, and Roddy Patterson 137 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: did some great things there. But if you have an 138 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: opportunity to upgrade a position, you're always looking to upgrade 139 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: a position. 140 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked Riley Patterson. I thought that as you 141 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 5: watch kickers over the course of time doing this twenty 142 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 5: five years, there are kickers that you feel like are 143 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 5: moving toward being nails. I feel like Rilly's got a 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 5: shot at that his legs strength probably about four or 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 5: five yards. 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 4: Less than you would like it. That's a guess. That's 147 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: not an analytical thing. 148 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: But it felt like they were not in field goal 149 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 5: range a little longer than a lot of teams, if 150 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: that makes any sense. I didn't say that, well, but 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 5: they had to get a little closer to be within 152 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: his range where he felt like he was nails. Nails 153 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: is a Bucky term, right. He doesn't know Elino, but 154 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 5: he knows nails. So I just felt like watching Riley 155 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 5: last year that you were watching a guy who was 156 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 5: still working toward being that absolute trust kicker that coaches want, 157 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: and I feel like when they looked at film I'm 158 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 5: sure looked at every kick that mcmahus has ever made, 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 5: I think they feel like there's a greater level of 160 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 5: trust at the kicker position, and especially where Riley was 161 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 5: in his career. I just didn't see this as a 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 5: high risk move. 163 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah know, I think you certainly want to do that, 164 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: and you have to understand how, let's say, offensive minded 165 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: head coaches think. Offensive minded head coaches are always thinking 166 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: about points, scoring zone and how it impacts the way 167 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 3: they have to call plays. So when you point to 168 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: or allude to Riley Patterson maybe not having the strongest leg, 169 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: it really cuts down the field of the scoring zone 170 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: for Doug Peterson. So now play calls that you're like, hey, 171 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: if I get to the forty we're pretty much assured 172 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: of getting three points. Well for Roley, maybe we got 173 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: to get to the thirty yard line, So now the 174 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: field go will be forty seven yards and that might 175 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: be good, but those ten extra yards mean a lot, 176 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: particularly when you're playing. 177 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: Against good defenses. 178 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: It changes the way that you stack your call sheet 179 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: and all those other things. And so by having maybe 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: an upgraded kicker It allows Doug a little more freedom 181 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: when it comes to how he designs his game plans, 182 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: how he sets the call sheet, and how he attacks 183 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: the defense, knowing if I get to this area to field, 184 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm pretty much assured of three points. 185 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: John, think about that playoff game. Yeah, the kicks fading right, 186 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 2: if they're five seven yards further back, that might drift 187 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 2: outside the upright. 188 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 5: And you referenced exactly what I, uh, where I was 189 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 5: going with it before the ETN run, which is twenty 190 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: five yard run. I can remember sitting in the press 191 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 5: box thinking they're going forward on fourth and one, right 192 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 5: in that range where the ETN run happened. I'm not 193 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: looking at the status sheet, but I remember the feeling of, 194 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 5: you know, they're not quite close enough, and with a 195 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: stronger legged kicker, they might be close enough. And maybe 196 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 5: I may be remembering that exactly dead on, but I 197 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 5: remember thinking that I don't know if he has confidence 198 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 5: from him here and he needs to get a little close. 199 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 6: You know. 200 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 5: That's the kind of moment in real life that I 201 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: think Bucky's getting at. I guess say I was expecting 202 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: the move, but once it happened, he started looking at it. 203 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 5: It made perfect sense. And we're not even really talking 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 5: about the uh the legs strength that Dug and Heath 205 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: we're talking about yesterday, which he just got a stronger 206 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 5: light and I think that was really what overwent. You know, 207 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 5: I was going for it more based on Robby had 208 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: some shaky moments last year. Not a lot he was, 209 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 5: but you didn't always feel like, Okay, he's gonna be 210 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 5: just money coming in. When you had the leg strength 211 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: onto it, I think it made a pretty easy decision 212 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 5: for them. 213 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 6: All Right. 214 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: This is the Huddle Up Podcast where talking special teams early. 215 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: Coming up in just a little bit, we'll hear from 216 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, Jaguars wide receiver and get his thoughts in 217 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: the offseason, and Devin Lloyd on his approach going into 218 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: season number two in the NFL. Another topic this week, 219 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: Bucky the discussion of the new fair catch rule on kickoffs. Well, 220 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: I asked McManus after practice, he's not for it, citing 221 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: the product and players who make their livelihood on special teams. 222 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: But it's what it is. I'll have to adjust to it. 223 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 6: Well. 224 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: They also asked special teams coordinator Heath Farwell about it yesterday. 225 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 8: Obviously as a special teams coaches got together. It wasn't 226 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 8: exactly what we were looking for, but as the game evolves, 227 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 8: we got to evolve right there with it. So it's 228 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 8: something my assist and I, Luke Thompson, have really looked 229 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 8: into this offseason and we'll continue to look throughout training camp. 230 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 6: What are the keys to it? 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 8: What are the you know, we have to study all 232 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 8: the college tape, that's what they've been doing for a 233 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 8: couple of years and reaching out to those buddies that 234 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 8: are in that game, uh to kind of figure out 235 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 8: the tricks to it. It's gonna be all new to us. 236 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 8: Is it going to change a ton Possibly not. You know, 237 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 8: like coach mentioned, we got Jamal Agnew. We're gonna want 238 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 8: to We want to return, so we're gonna try to 239 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 8: return as much as we can. Are we gonna fair 240 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 8: catch at times potentially, But I think if you have 241 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 8: a returner like we do, you still want that. It's 242 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 8: a big part of the game. It's a big part 243 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 8: of momentum. It was a big part of our season 244 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 8: last year down the stretch of flipping the field, giving 245 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 8: the ball to the offense on the others out of 246 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 8: the fifty it was a huge part of what we did. 247 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: So this kind of confirms, obviously what we discussed last 248 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: week on this podcast and some other shows that yeah, 249 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: they're gonna let the return guy do his thing. They'd 250 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: rather give him the opportunity to take one fifty yards 251 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: or to the house and maybe start a few yards back, 252 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: and they were starting near the twenty five or after 253 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: on average anyway, Bucky, So doesn't change a whole lot 254 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 2: of the Jaguars perspective. 255 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 6: No, it doesn't change the Jaguars perspective. 256 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: But I mean, as a guy who spent most of 257 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: the time playing special teams, what it does, though, is 258 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 3: it continues to marginalize that aspect of the game. I mean, 259 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: if you're taking away the kickoff and the return game, 260 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: I mean just think about like I mean, jamal Agne 261 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: is special for us, but a lot of teams will 262 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 3: be like, hey, what's the point in getting a dynamic 263 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 3: kick returner. We're just fair catch it every time and 264 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: just take it at to twenty five. It changes from 265 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: a strategy standpoint. Sometimes you were purposely kick it deep 266 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: in the corner and people turn it so you know, 267 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: you can pin them back, you can make them chew 268 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 3: up clock you can do things. So from a tactical standpoint, 269 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 3: it impacts the way that you want to approach the game, 270 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 3: and I don't think it impacts it in a good way. 271 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: I think it takes away some of the chess match 272 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 3: away from the coaches and kind of makes it a 273 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 3: very static game. I mean, we might as well play 274 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: like we're playing the Turkey Bowl. Just line up everyone's 275 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 3: all time quarterback. We always started to rock and go play. 276 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: I just, you know, I just think we have to 277 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 3: be careful of taking too many things. 278 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 6: Away from the game of football. 279 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: I know we're saying we're trying to protect the health 280 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: and safety of the players, but I think we still 281 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 3: need to make sure that it always looks like football. 282 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the point Bucky just made is the 283 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 5: best one. I said something similar this morning on drivetime. 284 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 5: We started at the tree and I didn't have the 285 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 5: Turkey Bowl because I wasn't picked for these kid games. 286 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 5: But I remember watching kids who got to play started 287 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 5: a tree in the neighborhood. But there is an element 288 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: of on the one hand, you have to be safe, 289 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 5: and by taking this out of it, it does increase 290 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 5: the safety and that's important and It may not even 291 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 5: seem when you're reading a story or debating this on 292 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: an NFL network, it may seemed like that big of 293 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 5: a deal. But then when you start to think how 294 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 5: games really get played out, I say, there's a high 295 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 5: scoring game, thirty five, thirty five, and every which I 296 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: think what we're moving toward. Eventually it feels like we're 297 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 5: moving toward every series that starting on the twenty five. 298 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 5: I mean, I could foresee where these rules changes end 299 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 5: up there in four or five years. Well, then okay, 300 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: you score, and then every time the ball comes out 301 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: and the opposing team starting the twenty five. I do 302 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: think coaches feel like something about a starting drive field 303 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 5: position should be earned and that it shouldn't all look 304 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 5: the same like that. That would feel very boring to 305 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: me and maybe overplaying it. But I think that's when 306 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 5: coaches like Andy Reid and Dan Campbell is very vocal 307 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 5: about it. I think that's what they sort of feel like, 308 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: shouldn't be out of the game, You should have some 309 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 5: Hey there was a fumbled kickoff. Hey we're starting at 310 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 5: the eight. 311 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 2: We have better coverage guys than your return guy. 312 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 5: Right or even last year, Jamal Agnew never took to 313 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 5: the house on kickoffs, but in the last four or 314 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 5: five games of the season, that Kansas City game, he 315 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 5: kept this team in it for a while, you know. 316 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: And so I do think there is an element that, 317 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: you know, I don't think the rules makers are making 318 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 5: these changes at all. 319 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: Willy nilly. 320 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think they want to be doing it, 321 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 5: But I think there is a balance you got to 322 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 5: be careful of. At the same time, I don't think 323 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 5: there's anything it's going to stop this momentum toward this, 324 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 5: and I don't love that, but I'm also not the 325 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: one out there risking ahead injury fair points. 326 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I get that, but like, so here's the 327 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: thing where let's just say you're a casual just paying 328 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: attention to football, where you wonder about health and safety. Right, 329 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: so you're talking about kickoffs, and hey, we're going to 330 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: take that out. We'll make sure we're protecting the players. 331 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 3: But then you have more Thursday night games and flex 332 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: games and those things, and so I just feel like 333 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: the league has to be careful of hiding behind the 334 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 3: guys of protecting the players when everything doesn't appear to 335 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 3: be about protecting the players. And so the game is 336 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: the game, and I mean, I think we all kind 337 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: of understand some of the inherent risks that come with playing, 338 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 3: but you just got to be careful. 339 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 6: Part of what makes football. 340 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: Great is, yeah, not only the tough guy stuff and 341 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: the violence, but the strategy the chess match that you 342 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: see when you're paying a close attention to Hey, this 343 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: is a great time to kick a coffin corner kick 344 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: because we can make them burn up five to six 345 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: seconds and in a two minute drill that could be 346 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: the difference in a win or a low. Those things, 347 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 3: to me matter, and so I can understand why Heathorpe 348 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 3: Farewell and some of the special teams coaches are up 349 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 3: at ours because it also puts their job at risk 350 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: a little bit if you keep cutting back on some 351 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 3: of the things in the kicking. 352 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 4: Game and Thursday's the big elephant they're in on that. 353 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely. There's no better time to become a 354 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: Daily Place Blue member than right now. 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Let's move to the Jaguars defense and 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 2: linebacker Devin Lloyd enters year number two in the NFL. 372 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 2: Last season, he was Defensive Rookie of the Month in September, 373 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: and then about a month or so later he was 374 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: out of the lineup. He finished better down the stretch, 375 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 2: but now going into year two, I asked him yesterday, 376 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 2: what's the approach this offseason? 377 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 9: You build the foundation in the off season, and so 378 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 9: I think just understanding that all the long hours, long 379 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 9: days during the season eventually come from your offseason. So 380 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 9: I'm building a good foundation, you know, physically, you know, 381 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 9: I got a lot of improvement from last year to 382 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 9: this year. And I mean really just mentally, you know, 383 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 9: just staying in the right spirits throughout the whole season. 384 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 9: I mean, it truly is a mental game, you know. 385 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 6: As physical as it is. 386 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 9: It truly is a mids side of the ball. So 387 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 9: it's really just staying in the right spirits and telling 388 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 9: yourself all the right things. 389 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: So, Bucky, the question is, you know, with all this 390 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: talk in the offseason about improving the pass rush, does 391 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd play a role in that? How do you 392 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: streamline his production on defense? 393 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I think you have to figure out ways. 394 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: I think that's the task that Mike Calwell and the 395 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 3: defensive staff they have to figure out. It's one thing 396 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: to come into the offseason or the season with the 397 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: plan this is how we're going to play. It's another 398 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: thing to then look at the players that you have 399 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: and really consistently question does this plan match the talents 400 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: of the players. And so when you look at your 401 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: personnel and you look at Devin Lloyd in particular, he 402 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: was a guy who's very productive at Utah coming off 403 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 3: the edge is blitzing. He kind of, i mean, really 404 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: was a stat stuffer in terms of sacks, tackles for loss, interceptions, 405 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: for as fumbles. What can you do to allow him 406 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: to play and make those kinds of plays that he 407 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: made in Utah? And so if you're gonna play him 408 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: at the position that you're playing him now, it may 409 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: require him and to blitz a little bit. It may 410 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 3: require more packages where you kind of move him around 411 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 3: and allow him to do more stuff. But you have 412 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 3: to be able to do all those things while also 413 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 3: not adding clutter to his brain. Because players who are 414 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: thinking are not playing fast. You want Devin Lloyd to 415 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: be able to play fast and play on his instincts. 416 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: And so that's what I think this offseason is about 417 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: figuring out what he can do really well and what 418 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 3: does he feel comfortable doing and allowing him to do 419 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 3: that over and over again. 420 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, to me, the stats stuff, for part is what 421 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 5: gives me a lot of optimism that it'll be okay. 422 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: When you watch this kid last year when he was 423 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: near the ball, he touched the ball and meaning he 424 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 5: was playing, he was impacting the game and creating, which 425 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 5: is a rare trait for a defensive play. I think 426 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 5: he's got that big time. My question for the former player, Yeah, 427 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 5: so much of what you heard with Devon was where 428 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 5: he struggled was seeing things and recognizing in situations that 429 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 5: he hadn't seen in college. And how much Bucky can 430 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 5: a player improve on that with experience? Is that an 431 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 5: improvable thing? Whereas to me, the things I was talking 432 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: about before, the instinctive things, really aren't improvable. I would 433 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 5: think he could get better in this area. 434 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 3: He absolutely can get better, and I would anticipate him 435 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 3: getting better. The only thing they actually get better as 436 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 3: a player is by playing, because each of those experiences 437 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 3: allows you to kind of catalog it and putting in 438 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: your library. So you oh, okay, I've seen this situation, 439 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: I've seen this formation, I've understand this down in distance, 440 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 3: here's where we at, circumstances of the game, all those 441 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 3: other things. And so as you begin to play a 442 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: long time and collect that data allows you to play fas. 443 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 6: That's why we love veteran players. 444 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 3: Veteran players have gone through it, and so they can 445 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 3: play a step quicker than maybe their athleticism because they 446 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 3: know and can anticipate what's about the comp well. For 447 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: Devin Lloyd, he has to have some of those experiences, 448 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: and I would say as a fan base and his fans, 449 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: we got to have a little patience. Even though he's 450 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: a first round pick, we can't expect him to come in. 451 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 6: Right away and know it all this year. 452 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we can raise the level of expectation because we 453 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: want to see him make impact plays, but he made 454 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 3: some splash plays last year and so it's that fine line, 455 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: that delicate balance that, Hey, you want him to play 456 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: within the confines of the defense, but you also want 457 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: him to do what he does well. And to me, 458 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: what he does well is, man, he's a sea ball 459 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 3: get ball player, and I want to put him in 460 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: a situation where I can let him see it and 461 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 3: go get it and whatever that looks like when it 462 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: comes to a defensive structure. I want to make sure 463 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: that I put him in a situation where I don't 464 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 3: have him thinking and you know, trying to second guess himself. 465 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 6: I just want him to be an attack mode because. 466 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 3: When he's in attack mode, he has proven that he 467 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 3: can make big plays, and we need big plays on 468 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: defense and keep. 469 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: Him on the field during training camp. He missed all 470 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: training camp last year too, and I think you saw 471 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 2: that in the regular season. Let's finish this week with 472 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, Jaguars wide receiver. He's getting work in of course, 473 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 2: still trying to get his legs fully underneath him since 474 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 2: he's been out of the game for nearly two seasons 475 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: full so the team's not really letting him loose all 476 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: the way. Doug Peterson said that before practice yesterday, but 477 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 2: Ridley after practice was asked if he feels rejuvenated. 478 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I was at home for a yea. 479 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 4: I'm just suf man. 480 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 10: I don't want to be out there. 481 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 6: But like I said, you know, I. 482 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 10: Thank god I'm around a good you know, a bunch 483 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 10: of good people, a good program, and they know how 484 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 10: to do this because I mean, you let me do 485 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 10: it myself, I'll tire myself out by the time of 486 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 10: seasons here. So you know, I got a lot of 487 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 10: good people here, have been working out with you know, 488 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 10: a lot of good you know, screent staff, and man, 489 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 10: I'm excited about where I'm at right now. 490 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: So in the little practices. We've seen two of them 491 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: the OTAs. You know, you're starting to see him out there. 492 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: I saw him out there, felt like a little bit 493 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: more in the team stuff on the first day of 494 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 2: this week, and you can see why. Bucky. I mean, 495 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 2: he's a crisp route runner. He's in and out, but 496 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: he's one that will let it loose if you let 497 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 2: him go. And you know, this is that time of 498 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: year where yeah, they might miss a throw here or there, 499 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 2: but he's back with a quarterback. They're working on the 500 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 2: little nuances of a certain route and they run it 501 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 2: again and they'll hit it. And that's what this offseason 502 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: time is about. 503 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's about. He's something that we haven't 504 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 3: seen and I'm excited. I want to temper the expectations, 505 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 3: but I just think of what he's been doing this offense, 506 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: and I think about how much fun Doug Peterson could 507 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: have with Calvin Ridley as a route runner. He's the 508 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 3: best route runner that we've seen at some time. And 509 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 3: that's saying a lot because Christian Kirkins A Jones are 510 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 3: also outstanding route runners, but Calvin Ridley's at another level. 511 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: And so when you take someone who has been the 512 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: number one receiver who is put in work time and 513 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: time again in terms of creating space and separation, and 514 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 3: has earned the respect of other wide receivers around the 515 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: league as a top five talent. Well, now you're talking 516 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: about an offense that has a chance to go from 517 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: good to great, and. 518 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 6: We've talked about it. 519 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: We've talked about it on here multiple times about potentially 520 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: having three thousand yard receivers to go with a thousand 521 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: yard rusher and what this offense can look like. A 522 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: lot of it hinges on Calvin Ridley. If Calvin Ridley 523 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 3: is right, it's gonna be very very hard for teams 524 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: to match up with this offense because you double team him. Now, 525 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 3: you gotta, you know, you gotta roll the dice on 526 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: Kristin Kirk and Evan Ingram and those other guys. 527 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 6: It should be a lot of fun. 528 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that he continues to take his time, 529 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: that the Jaguars coaching staff and training staff kind of 530 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: works to make sure they protect him against himself, because 531 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: if he's right, when the regular season kicks off, you 532 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: can see fireworks. 533 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 5: You guys know how much I enjoy practice or praise 534 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 5: that by really enjoy it. But in watching these unpadded 535 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 5: practic just is the thing that you sort of watched 536 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: for with special players at the running back and receiver 537 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 5: position are guys who sort of stand out, who pop 538 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: off the page, if you will, in those moments. Every 539 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 5: once in a while, during these Travis etn will do 540 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 5: something athletically where you say, well, he's different, I mean, 541 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 5: he is blessed to be able to do different things, 542 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 5: and the other guys in this field, Calvin Ridley's the 543 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 5: same guy, I mean, and you maybe even see it 544 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 5: more than Calvin, I would think as a scout when 545 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 5: Bucky was assigned players to watch when he was a 546 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: scout and was going through tape because he probably did 547 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 5: scout back in the days where there was tape. There's 548 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 5: probably like a stack of tapes and you got to 549 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 5: go through him, and then when you get to Ridley's tape, 550 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 5: you sort of look forward to it. 551 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: He's sort of that guy in he. 552 00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 6: He is man. 553 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 3: He's so much fun and you can see the clips 554 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 3: that are floating on Twitter and social media from his 555 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 3: past stage with the Falcons, how he just works people. 556 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 3: You've seen some of the stuff that he's done in 557 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: workouts when he's been working with his trainer, going one 558 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 3: on ones, and how he has I mean, he has 559 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: all that extra syrup on his game if he needs it, but. 560 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 6: He can win with the basic stuff. And we saw 561 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 6: it when I was there. 562 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 3: Just the ease and nature in terms of how he 563 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: gets open and creates separation. 564 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 6: That stuff is exciting. 565 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: And the thing about him is this guy is a 566 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 3: high level competitor. 567 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 6: He's been a high level player. 568 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: You throw him into the mix to alleviate some of 569 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: the pressure on Trevor Lawrence because this is the year 570 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: that Trevor should make a major leap you two and 571 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: Doug Peterson's offense. 572 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 6: It won't be a coincidence. 573 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: That Calvin really will help him take his game to 574 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 3: other nots. Because we talked about Calvin really potentially being 575 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: a top five, top ten receiver. The expectation is Trevor 576 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Lawren should be a top five quarterback this year if 577 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 3: everything goes according to script. 578 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 2: All right, So that's it for this week on the 579 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 2: Huddle Up Podcast. Next week, one more ot a week, John, 580 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: and then it's Manda's mini camp Bucky or Fired Up? 581 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 2: Are you coming back for any of these? Bucky or 582 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: you done for the off. 583 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 3: Now I'm trying to get back to him, just trying 584 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: to make sure Doug is not going to give him 585 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: a treat and maybe give him a couple of days 586 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 3: off and then like that. So I'm trying to plan 587 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: it so I may have to come back for the 588 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 3: OTA so I can see it and have John Tadley 589 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: of those completions and incompletions. 590 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 6: And all that, and then we can kind of report 591 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 6: about it. 592 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: You know, I have seen enough. You know I've seen. 593 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: That's John Ozer and Bucky Brooks. I'm JP Shaddick. Our 594 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: thanks to Joe Fortunado and David Chow as well. Thank 595 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: you for listening to the Huddle Up Podcast.