WEBVTT - Tech News: GameStop Stocks and Much Ado About Nothing

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and I love all things tech. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>tech news episode for Thursday, January twenty twenty one. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, guys, I often start the news episodes with

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<v Speaker 1>some heavy stuff, and today is no exception, except that

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<v Speaker 1>this is more of a good news heavy story than

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<v Speaker 1>a bad news one. So that's a nice change. Reuters

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<v Speaker 1>reported on Wednesday, January, so yesterday, if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this episode, the day it comes out that police agencies

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, Canada, and six European countries completed

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<v Speaker 1>an inter national operation to bring down a malware bought

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<v Speaker 1>net network called Emo TET. Germany's federal police agency had

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<v Speaker 1>named Emo TET as quote the most dangerous malware globally

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<v Speaker 1>end quote, which is saying something considering some of the

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<v Speaker 1>contenders that are out there. Emma TET is a type

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<v Speaker 1>of malware called a trojan, which, like the trojan horse

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<v Speaker 1>of legend, serves as a delivery mechanism for some other

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<v Speaker 1>type of code, typically malicious code. So Emo TET is

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<v Speaker 1>the nasty piece of software that creates the opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>other potentially nastier pieces of software to infiltrate a system.

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<v Speaker 1>So it could help deliver code that encrypts everything on

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<v Speaker 1>a computer, which would lead you towards ransomware. Or it

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<v Speaker 1>could be used to allow hackers to install monitoring software

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on everything going on in a system,

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<v Speaker 1>or even giving administrative level access to various computers and

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<v Speaker 1>so on. The main way this malware spread was through

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<v Speaker 1>email attachments, so it used the old, tried and true

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<v Speaker 1>fishing technique, which is still around for a reason people

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<v Speaker 1>still fall for it. It first appeared back in and

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<v Speaker 1>it has gone through various cycles of activity and inactivity

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<v Speaker 1>in the Emo tet activity on the Internet dropped in February,

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<v Speaker 1>but it surged again in July. Now, according to authorities

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<v Speaker 1>in the Ukraine, imotet was responsible for about two point

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars in damages globally. The police takedown included

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<v Speaker 1>a raid on a physical location within the Ukraine in

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<v Speaker 1>which hackers had servers that were doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the heavy lifting for you know, maintaining and administering the

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<v Speaker 1>botan net. The police released photos of bank cards and cash,

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<v Speaker 1>which I find particularly wild, as I usually imagine most

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<v Speaker 1>of the crime involving digital transfers of funds rather than

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the physical manifestation of money. But I guess

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<v Speaker 1>my imagination is far too limited. At the time I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recording this, there were no reports about any arrests. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that arrests didn't happen. I just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any news about them as I was recording this. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the takedown is certainly a disruption for this particular type

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<v Speaker 1>of malware botan net operation, but we should keep in

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<v Speaker 1>mind there are lots of other ones out there. There

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<v Speaker 1>are hacker groups that are independent, and then there are

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<v Speaker 1>some that are state sponsored. But this is definitely good

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<v Speaker 1>news that one of the more dangerous networks appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be offline. Now. Next, I wanted to follow up on

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<v Speaker 1>a story I talked about briefly involving game Stop and

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<v Speaker 1>their stocks. Now, if you listen to recent news episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard me talk about game Stop and use that

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<v Speaker 1>as a way to explain the process of short selling.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where an investor borrows stock that doesn't along to

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<v Speaker 1>that investor and then sells that stock for market price

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<v Speaker 1>and then hope that the price of the stock falls

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<v Speaker 1>so that the investor can then buy back those borrowed

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<v Speaker 1>shares and pocket the difference because the investor is obligated

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<v Speaker 1>to return the borrowed shares. The goal is for you

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<v Speaker 1>to buy back those borrowed shares when they're cheaper, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, you get to keep whatever the difference

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<v Speaker 1>was between the cell price and the buy price. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that a subreddit called Wall Street Bets was

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<v Speaker 1>driving the price of game Stop stock up after a

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<v Speaker 1>company called Citron and another one called Melvin Capital had

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<v Speaker 1>recommended that the stock be used as a short sell.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, those companies were short selling game Stop stock

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<v Speaker 1>and they were anticipating that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a drop in stock price. Now, in my last piece

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<v Speaker 1>on this, the price of game Stop stock is so

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say that. By the way, anyway, that stock

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<v Speaker 1>had climbed seventy in a day, it climbed another after that.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, over the course of two weeks, the stock

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<v Speaker 1>price has increased dramatically, and that definitely puts the squeeze

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<v Speaker 1>on anyone who's trying to short sell the stock, because

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<v Speaker 1>now buying back those borrowed shares will cost more money

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<v Speaker 1>than the investor would get from selling them at the

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<v Speaker 1>earlier market price. It means that when that price goes up,

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<v Speaker 1>you lose money. If you were quote unquote selling stock

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<v Speaker 1>at ten dollars and then the stock goes to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to buy back that stock, well now

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<v Speaker 1>you're paying twice as much, right, So when stock prices

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<v Speaker 1>go up, short selling becomes a loss for the investor.

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<v Speaker 1>Now some investors will double down. They will start short

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<v Speaker 1>selling even harder. They will start selling more stock that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't own, with the hope that the new higher

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<v Speaker 1>price of stock is going to take a turn and

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<v Speaker 1>start dropping again, and thus they'll be able to cover

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<v Speaker 1>their original short sell and perhaps make money in the

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<v Speaker 1>long term by jumping on it again. But this activity

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<v Speaker 1>of of buying and selling it ends up pushing the

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<v Speaker 1>stock price even further hop so it becomes a vicious

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<v Speaker 1>cycle that becomes known as a stock squeeze or a

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<v Speaker 1>short squeeze. Really well, back in January twelve, game stop

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<v Speaker 1>stocks we're selling at nineteen dollars and cents per share,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mentioned that they've increased dramatically, So what does

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<v Speaker 1>that actually mean well, by January the stock price was

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<v Speaker 1>at three hundred fifty dollars per share. So now let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about market capitalization. Now, essentially, we take the number

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<v Speaker 1>of shares that the company issues out and we multiply

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<v Speaker 1>that number of shares by the share price to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out what the market cap is. So for game Stop,

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<v Speaker 1>as of the time I'm recording this, that market cap

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<v Speaker 1>is at around twenty six bill in dollars. That is bonkers.

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<v Speaker 1>And you might ask what has game Stop done to

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<v Speaker 1>merit this jump and value, and the answer is nothing. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>this price inflation is due to a lot of perception

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<v Speaker 1>and market activity among stockholders and was exacerbated when the

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<v Speaker 1>short sellers were trying to buy up more stock or

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<v Speaker 1>sell more stock, short sell more stock in an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to make up for the losses they were already experiencing,

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<v Speaker 1>and the cycle was getting worse and worse. The stock

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<v Speaker 1>market has actually halted trading on game Stop shares numerous

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<v Speaker 1>times over the last week due to that high volatility

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<v Speaker 1>in trading. That's a protective measure that's necessary because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>a really volatile stock can set off a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>chain reaction in the market, and then you've got real

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<v Speaker 1>chaos on your hands, and it's hard to see how

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<v Speaker 1>this will all end well in the long run. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems that eventually the market value for game Stop will

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<v Speaker 1>have to readjust to better reflect the actual value of

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<v Speaker 1>the company, and you would expect to see that the

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<v Speaker 1>market share price fall as a result of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who don't know what game Stop

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<v Speaker 1>is in the first place, it's a video game retail

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<v Speaker 1>company as and this is a company best known for

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<v Speaker 1>having brick and mortar stores in the real world where

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<v Speaker 1>you can go and buy video games and video game systems,

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<v Speaker 1>or even sell back your old copies of games to

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<v Speaker 1>the game Stop. You would think that would the double

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<v Speaker 1>wamy of the pandemic keeping most people at home and

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<v Speaker 1>away from stores, and the general rise of digital downloads

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to buying physical copies, It would mean that

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<v Speaker 1>a company like game Stop wouldn't be seeing such a

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<v Speaker 1>huge surge and stock market price, which is why I

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<v Speaker 1>get the feeling that eventually this will all have to

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<v Speaker 1>settle down. At least I hope it settles rather than crashes. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I should also stress I am no market expert. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this higher stock price will stick around and become stable.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it, but I fully admit this is not

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<v Speaker 1>my area of expertise by a long shot, or else

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably be a millionaire by now. Now. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the big stories in the second half of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>was all about how former President Trump was pressuring Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>company byte Dance to sell off its video streaming platform

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok to an American company or companies or else face

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<v Speaker 1>the apparently unenforceable threat that the service would be taken

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<v Speaker 1>down in the United States. In fact, the reason that

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<v Speaker 1>that sale has yet to take place is because the

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<v Speaker 1>government really didn't follow through on the threats that was making.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think a lot of people over

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<v Speaker 1>at byte Dance slash TikTok are just saying, well, until

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<v Speaker 1>they actually show us they really mean business, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we just keep doing what we're doing. Now. It remains

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<v Speaker 1>to be seen what the Biden administration is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with regard to TikTok. It's possible they don't do

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<v Speaker 1>anything at all. But meanwhile, over in India, things are

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<v Speaker 1>definitely changing. The Indian government banned TikTok along with fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight other apps that are linked to China. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>followed a military confrontation between India and China in the

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<v Speaker 1>Galawan Valley back in the summer of twenty twenty, and

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<v Speaker 1>this week by Dance announced it was shutting down nearly

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<v Speaker 1>all of its operations in India and laying off almost

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<v Speaker 1>every employee there as well. One unnamed source told the

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<v Speaker 1>website in Tracker that as many as eighteen hundred people

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<v Speaker 1>would lose their jobs and the company would retain around

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<v Speaker 1>maybe two fifty employees in India. Some of the other

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<v Speaker 1>apps affected by this band include the mobile version of

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<v Speaker 1>Player Unknowns Battlegrounds and the messaging service we Chat. In

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying news, The Guardian reports that a US government appointed

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<v Speaker 1>panel that included tech executives have made the recommendation that

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<v Speaker 1>the United States pursue the development of military AI applications,

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<v Speaker 1>including weapons powered by artificial intelligence. Leading that panel was

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google. I guess it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is fitting to say that before he was CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of Google, the company had kind of an unofficial motto

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<v Speaker 1>of don't be evil, and that's not the motto anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying the two are connected, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the two are connected anyway. The logic of this,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can call it, that, is that the AI would,

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<v Speaker 1>if designed properly, make fewer mistakes than people. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know that if designed properly, is an enormous qualification there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if we have seen stories about how image

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<v Speaker 1>recognition software can sometimes get things really wrong at times

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<v Speaker 1>that can go from embarrassing to outright offensive, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of opens up your eyes When that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be dealing with some harsh criticism, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it might lead to a deeper discussion about topics like

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<v Speaker 1>bias and transparency and artificial intelligence. But when we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>military applications, it's obviously a more immediate issue of life

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<v Speaker 1>or death type of scenarios. A former Deputy Secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>Defense named Robert Work said that quote, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>moral imperative to at least pursue this hypothesis end quote,

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<v Speaker 1>which might come as news to the hundreds of computer

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<v Speaker 1>scientists who have previously spoken out about this very concept.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, there is a coalition of organizations that have

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<v Speaker 1>signed documents calling for a ban on any uses of

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<v Speaker 1>artificial intelligence with regard to warfare. UH it often gets

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<v Speaker 1>reduced to no killer robots, that kind of thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>general concern is that applying AI to war will set

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<v Speaker 1>off a type of arms race, and that further, any

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<v Speaker 1>poorly made AI would be inherently dangerous. I mean, for

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<v Speaker 1>that matter, a well designed AI would be dangerous, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's its job. But it doesn't take much

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<v Speaker 1>imagination to conjure up scenarios in which an AI system

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<v Speaker 1>could make a call that a human being would never do,

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<v Speaker 1>potentially setting off a catastrophic series of events. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>just as a hypothesis, if an AI decided that losing

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<v Speaker 1>an entire city was an acceptable loss, it might move

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<v Speaker 1>forward with that decision that could lead to the deaths

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<v Speaker 1>of millions of people. Now that's definitely on the bad

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<v Speaker 1>end of the spectrum of possibilities. You could also argue

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that AI systems could prevail in situations where

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<v Speaker 1>humans would fail, that an AI would act faster and

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<v Speaker 1>with a better result than humans would, and that lives

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<v Speaker 1>would be saved in that example. But it is a

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<v Speaker 1>sobering thought, and in the end, the panel's recommendations, which

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<v Speaker 1>will be finalized the spring, are not binding. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever the panel finds the government will immediately implement,

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<v Speaker 1>and I expect we're going to see a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>people speaking out against the idea. And we've chatted a

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<v Speaker 1>bit about the trend of employees at tech companies forming

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<v Speaker 1>unions to help create more leverage when negotiating with executive leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the news episodes have talked about Google's

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<v Speaker 1>ongoing battle with the Alphabet Workers Union or a w

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<v Speaker 1>you another thing that's very hard to say. But meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>over at Amazon, we're seeing something play out that seems

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<v Speaker 1>pretty familiar to anyone who was following the stories around

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<v Speaker 1>the United States elections last year. Amazon workers planning to

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<v Speaker 1>unionize a warehouse in Alabama have to vote on whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not that happens. It's a union election, and essentially

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<v Speaker 1>now the people trying to form the union want to

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<v Speaker 1>hold this vote through mail in ballots. I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a pandemic, so going to a

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<v Speaker 1>physical location in order to cast your vote is frowned upon,

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<v Speaker 1>generally speaking. But Amazon is pushing back on this. They're

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to force the workers to participate in an in

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<v Speaker 1>person vote instead, perhaps due to the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>might be a way to discourage people from voting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's my just hypothesizing. I don't have anything to

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<v Speaker 1>back that up. It could be other reasons. Amazon says

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason is because, at least according to company representatives,

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<v Speaker 1>that the mail in process would take too long and

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<v Speaker 1>that would require too many resources. Uh. The National Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Relations Board had previously said that employees should be allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to vote by mail in ballot. Amazon is appealing that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>But assuming that the n l RB does not roll

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<v Speaker 1>back that decision, and there should be a union election

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<v Speaker 1>on February eight for that warehouse, and if the workers

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<v Speaker 1>do vote to unionize, it would mark the first Amazon

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse in the United States to do that. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>much of the tech sector has its eyes on Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>as between Amazon and Google, we could end up seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a general move toward unionization in the tech space. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot more to cover in today's episode, but

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<v Speaker 1>first let's take a quick break. The Iranian government has

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<v Speaker 1>issued a new social networking ban, this one targeting Signal,

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<v Speaker 1>the messaging app. Now you might remember from recent episodes

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<v Speaker 1>that Signal was having a bit of a growth spurt

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<v Speaker 1>because people who had been using WhatsApp, which is owned

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<v Speaker 1>by Facebook had started to abandon WhatsApp and they were

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<v Speaker 1>turning to companies like Signal and Telegram instead. Well, Iran

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<v Speaker 1>has already banned Telegram, and now Signal has followed suit.

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<v Speaker 1>At the heart of the issue of people leaving WhatsApp

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<v Speaker 1>is a recent announcement that Facebook would be gathering some

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<v Speaker 1>meta data around how users were interacting with WhatsApp and

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<v Speaker 1>then putting that metadata to use over on Facebook proper,

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<v Speaker 1>and that raised a lot of privacy concerns that led

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<v Speaker 1>to people kind of abandoning ship. Well, the Iranian government

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<v Speaker 1>does doesn't seem too thrilled with Signals product, which includes

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<v Speaker 1>encrypted communication services. As such, the government dropped all Signal

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<v Speaker 1>traffic on the country's internal networks, and the government has

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<v Speaker 1>also ordered Iranian app stores to drop Signal from their

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<v Speaker 1>virtual shelves. As I said, Telegram had already been banned

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran. It's still in use in Iran. You just

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<v Speaker 1>can't download it legally there, but there are people who

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<v Speaker 1>are still using it in order to communicate. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to social apps that allow for messaging,

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<v Speaker 1>the only two big ones that have not yet been

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<v Speaker 1>banned by Iran our WhatsApp, and Instagram, both of which

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<v Speaker 1>are owned by Facebook. Maza A Lamardani, a researcher with

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<v Speaker 1>article nineteen, speculates that this is probably because the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>government wants to put bands in place on social services

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<v Speaker 1>before those services grow large enough for it to cause

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<v Speaker 1>a noticeable uproar within the country. Generally speaking, the Iranian

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<v Speaker 1>government tends to not like it if people can talk

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<v Speaker 1>without them being able to see what they're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>as the Iranian government can fall a little bit on

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<v Speaker 1>the paranoid side of the scale. NBC reports that a

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<v Speaker 1>survey conducted by the National Association for Business Economics found

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<v Speaker 1>that around eleven percent of respondents, which were mainly you know,

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<v Speaker 1>business leaders, expected to see a future in which all

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<v Speaker 1>employees would return to offices. So, in other words, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>of those surveys said, yeah, I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a point where everyone will be back in

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<v Speaker 1>the office, which means everybody else was saying, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>so sure about that. In fact, more than half of

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<v Speaker 1>them said that they had already allowed for most or

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<v Speaker 1>all staff to work remotely during the pandemic, and the

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<v Speaker 1>general consensus is that at least for the short term,

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<v Speaker 1>most companies are seeing a future in which a significant

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of the workforce will continue to work from home

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<v Speaker 1>rather than commute to an office, or they might move

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<v Speaker 1>to a model and which people do come in for

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<v Speaker 1>some days during the week and they work from home

0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 1>on other days, which is what I was doing before

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:41.720
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic switched me over to working from home almost

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<v Speaker 1>entirely exclusively. I am not surprised by the results of

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<v Speaker 1>this survey. I am curious how it will affect office

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<v Speaker 1>spaces moving forward. Uh. For some companies, the office is

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of prestige, right. It's something that can be

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<v Speaker 1>used to impress partners and clients or potential higher ers.

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<v Speaker 1>But an empty office doesn't give off quite the same vibe,

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<v Speaker 1>and office space can be really expensive to maintain, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>in fashionable parts of town. So I imagine some businesses

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<v Speaker 1>will examine various scenarios, including some that see them downsizing

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<v Speaker 1>the actual office space used in an effort to cut

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<v Speaker 1>costs and conserve resources. You know, if they say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a hundred people who work out of this office,

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<v Speaker 1>but only twenty of them come in, there's no reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we need to support a space that can hold

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred people. Let's scale back now. Perhaps when enough

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<v Speaker 1>people have been vaccinated, we'll start to see a change.

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<v Speaker 1>So it may be that a lot of companies just

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<v Speaker 1>say let's just tread water until the vaccinations roll out. However,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to remember that COVID is not going away

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<v Speaker 1>even after vaccinations, and that we're likely looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>reality in which we will need to get vaccinated against

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<v Speaker 1>COVID on a regular basis as the virus evolves. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, there's no real resetting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>normal that existed pre COVID. Now. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>this is all going to turn out, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a lot of negative consequences no matter

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<v Speaker 1>how it unfolds. I also know that working from home

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<v Speaker 1>isn't easy for everyone. In fact, on a personal note,

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<v Speaker 1>it's changed me quite a bit. I used to be

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<v Speaker 1>extremely extroverted, but now I actually get antsy if I

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<v Speaker 1>happen to see a group of people, and even if

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<v Speaker 1>I play a video game with a crowd and it

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me feel anxious. But that's enough about me. However,

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<v Speaker 1>related to that story is what's going on over in

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<v Speaker 1>the San Francisco Bay Area. In California. Now that has

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<v Speaker 1>long been the epicenter of the tech world, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least the tech world in the United States, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the US slice of the tech world. Anyway, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a few things to know about San Francisco in general. One,

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<v Speaker 1>the real estate market there is truly outrageous, like Jim

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<v Speaker 1>and the Halla Graham's truly truly truly outrageous. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Town and Country, an empty lot measuring less

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<v Speaker 1>than half an acre in size, meaning there's no house there,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing there but an empty lot, that would set

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<v Speaker 1>you back five point four million dollars in Palo Alto, California. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Palo Alto is closer to San Jose than it is

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<v Speaker 1>to San Francisco, but it is in the general Bay area.

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<v Speaker 1>The average rent in San Francisco for a one bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>apartment in the city itself is about thirty dollars per month. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the most expensive place in the world, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is. You know, it's expensive to live there. And

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<v Speaker 1>in a world where you can do your work from

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<v Speaker 1>home and not commute to an office, it opens up

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<v Speaker 1>the possibilities to you know, live somewhere else, somewhere that

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<v Speaker 1>isn't nearly as expensive. Axios published an article citing that

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<v Speaker 1>nearly nine thousand households have left the San Francisco area recently. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some of that might be due to COVID directly, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it seems to be more about the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living versus the actual living conditions of the area.

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<v Speaker 1>The tech sector attracts a lot of talent to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and in general, the tech sector pays talent pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that drove up the real estate prices in the

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<v Speaker 1>Bay Area over a couple of decades. And that also

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<v Speaker 1>pushed people who were not fortunate to have a high

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<v Speaker 1>paying tech gig further out of the city. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to commute much further to their jobs. So people working

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<v Speaker 1>in industries that, you know, it wasn't like a high

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<v Speaker 1>paying developer job or something, might have to commute more

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<v Speaker 1>than an hour each way because they couldn't afford to

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<v Speaker 1>live in the same region where they worked. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see some of the tech companies themselves consider

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<v Speaker 1>a move away from the Bay Area, and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the places that companies are looking at include Miami, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin, Texas. And it's really too early to see

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<v Speaker 1>what the effect of all this is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's certain that the disruptive sector known as tech

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<v Speaker 1>is going to disrupt the Bay Area even more. Sticking

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<v Speaker 1>with that Bay Area tech sector, let's talk a bit

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<v Speaker 1>about Facebook, the media platform that is frequently part of

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<v Speaker 1>the headlines. MSN reported on the amount of money that

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<v Speaker 1>tech lobbyists spent in twenty twenty in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>in an effort to influence politics. Here, Facebook, to no

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<v Speaker 1>huge surprise, was the top spender in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them now. According to the report, Facebook spent nearly twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars on lobbying, which represented an increase of nearly

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen percent over how much it's spent in twenty nineteen. Google,

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<v Speaker 1>by contrast, actually cut spending by thirty six percent in twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>down to a measly seven and a half million dollars. Overall,

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<v Speaker 1>the top five tech companies, which also includes Apple, Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft, spent less on lobbying efforts in twenty than

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<v Speaker 1>they did in twenty nineteen. So Facebook is more of

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<v Speaker 1>an exception in this case, since Facebook actually increased its spending,

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<v Speaker 1>and out of those five companies I just mentioned, only

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft has recently been left out of antitrust investigations into

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not those other companies represent a monopoly. The

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 1>investigations conclude that, yeah, they kind of do. So hey,

0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft dodged a bullet on that one. But then let's

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>remember that Microsoft itself has been the subject of antitrust

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<v Speaker 1>investigations in the past. With the change in administrations here

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States, it will be interesting to see

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<v Speaker 1>how things progress on this front. Will various state and

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<v Speaker 1>federal agencies pushed to break up some of these companies,

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<v Speaker 1>will the unionization efforts create complications for them? I have

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<v Speaker 1>no clue, but I'll be keeping an eye out on

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<v Speaker 1>this and of course reporting it to you guys. And

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<v Speaker 1>another Facebook story, this one really a grim one, centers

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<v Speaker 1>on material posted on Facebook that denies or distorts information

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<v Speaker 1>about the Holocaust, like claiming that the Holocaust was a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that never happened. The Anti Defamation League has

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<v Speaker 1>long pressured Facebook to take a more active role in

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<v Speaker 1>banning posts that claimed that the Holocaust was a hoax,

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<v Speaker 1>and while the company had been urged by various groups

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<v Speaker 1>and individuals to take action for years against that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of material, it was only back in October of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty that the company actually said it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. In a blog post by Monica Bickert, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the vice president of Content Policy at Facebook, the

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<v Speaker 1>company laid out that the official hate speech policy for

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook would now include any content that quote denies or

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<v Speaker 1>distorts the Holocaust end quote. But now, several months later,

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<v Speaker 1>in one the a d L found that such contents

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<v Speaker 1>still pops up on face Book and stays there, including

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook groups dedicated to claiming that the Holocaust was a hoax.

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<v Speaker 1>The organization thus awarded Facebook the grade of D a

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<v Speaker 1>failing grade, for its efforts to moderate such content. This

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reinforces the idea that it is relatively easy

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:21.919
<v Speaker 1>to create an algorithm that's designed to boost content that

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<v Speaker 1>shows signs of a lot of air quotes engagement, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is a lot harder to find ways to moderate

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>content to remove stuff like hate speech and misinformation. That

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is a huge problem because in the meantime, Facebook continues

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to be a misinformation distribution machine with incredible reach, and

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>it was you know, had had an economic incentive to

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 1>be like that, because again, engagement means spending more time

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>on the platform. Spending more time on the platform means

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>being served more ads and ads our health. Facebook makes

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of its revenue, so it had an

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>incentive to keep people there, And if people are staying

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 1>there because of bad stuff, then there wasn't a whole

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of incentive to remove the bad stuff until public

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:13.399
<v Speaker 1>pressure reaches a point where it's undeniable. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, and even now Facebook is still failing,

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<v Speaker 1>at least according to the Anti Defamation League. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple more stories for this episode, but before

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<v Speaker 1>I get to that, let's take another quick break. We're

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<v Speaker 1>back and some of you listeners might not be aware

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that back in the old days, I wrote for a

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>site called how Stuff Works dot com. That's how tech

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Stuff got started as a podcast offshoot of the website.

0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Just like other shows like Stuff You Should Know and

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>Stuff You Missed in History Class, if the show has

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 1>the words stuff in the title, there's a chance, not

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>a guarantee, but a chance that it branched off from

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.479
<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works. Anyway, one of the articles I wrote

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<v Speaker 1>for that site was about Project Loon, which was an

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>effort from Google to create a network of high altitude

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>balloons carrying equipment that would provide Internet connectivity as a

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of floating infrastructure, and it was an innovative approach

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 1>to extending Internet connectivity to remote areas that otherwise might

0:29:24.320 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>go without. So, for example, think of like a little

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>town in Africa that's many, many many miles away from

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.719
<v Speaker 1>the nearest big city. It might not have any Internet connectivity,

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and it would be incredibly difficult and expensive to build

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>out the infrastructure to connect it to that big city.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:50.080
<v Speaker 1>But if you float the Internet above this this community,

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you could potentially provide it network connectivity. But we learned

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>last week that Google is deflating the program, so to speak,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 1>ending the nine year long experiment. Now the technology worked.

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>The balloons could send down signals that communities could tap into.

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>The high altitudes were above really gusty winds, so it

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>was possible to maintain a connection to specific regions. You

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.719
<v Speaker 1>knew what was going to happen with the balloons, so

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>if you just had enough coverage, then you could maintain

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that connectivity. But the company could not find a way

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to make the business work from a revenue perspective. So

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>in other words, it was just costing too much to

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>deploy and maintain than could be balanced. Out through revenue,

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and so we see the loons sink back down to

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Earth and we're really seeing a different approach satellite services. Starlink,

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the project associated with Elon Musk, is such a service.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>The idea is to send up thousands of tiny satellites

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 1>in a relatively low orbit that can act as kind

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>of like a mesh networking system of their own. They

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 1>would be at far too low and altitude to maintain

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a geosynchronous orbit, that is, an orbit where the satellite

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>maintains its spot relative to the position on the Earth.

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So since the satellites wouldn't be in the exact same

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:13.560
<v Speaker 1>spot in the sky, you need a lot of them

0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>in order to keep coverage consistent. Otherwise you would lose

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>your Internet connection every time the satellite moved out of range,

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>and then you would have to wait for it to

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 1>go all the way around the planet and swing back

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>overhead again. The Starlink service is aiming to have more

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.959
<v Speaker 1>than forty thousand satellites in orbit in order to provide

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>a global Internet connectivity service, which, hey, that's cool, but

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>it does also represent another concern for scientists and astronauts

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>who worry about stuff like space debris and it also

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>represents a potential issue for astronomers, as reflections both of

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>light and potentially of radio waves can make it harder

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to observe cosmological goings on down here on Earth. So

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>scientists also point out that the efforts to blanket the sky,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>eyes and satellites comes not from some sort of altruistic

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>desire to supply Internet to everybody. It's not like, look

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 1>under your seat, you get an Internet, and you get

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 1>an Internet now. It's rather because these companies are viewing

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>this as a potentially profitable business. So in other words,

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>they are arguing that the media should not frame these

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>efforts as being noble. Necessarily on the business side of things,

0:32:25.320 --> 0:32:27.880
<v Speaker 1>there are skeptics who wonder if this approach will ever

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>be profitable. Getting stuff into space is expensive, after all,

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and while it's useful to have persistent Internet connectivity, there

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>are some inherent downsides to using satellite technology. One big

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>one is the problem with latency. Satellites. Even those in

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a low orbit are very far away, so it takes

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:52.640
<v Speaker 1>time for information to travel from the satellite to either

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>the backbone of the Internet or you're in device, so

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you're kind of playing a game of phone tag. Let's

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>say you've got a laptop that connects to a router

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>that then connects up to the satellite link. So you

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>are on a website, you click on a link, your

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>command goes out through your satellite dish beams up to

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>a satellite in orbit, which then has to relay that

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>command back down on Earth at a receiving station, which

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>then sends that signal out over the Internet to its destination,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever website you were trying to visit, And

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>then that whole response has to take the same journey,

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>but in reverse, and that tends to create a pretty

0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>noticeable delay between when you do something and when you

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>see the results. So if companies can't make satellites work

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>from a revenue perspective, they could go the same way

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 1>that Project Loon went, but then we also have the

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>added problem of a bunch of junk in low Earth orbit. Next,

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>Carl Pay made a name for himself as one of

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the co founders for the Chinese consumer electronics company one

0:33:58.160 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>plus back in mean and you might wonder what he's

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 1>up to today, and the answer is nothing. That is,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.920
<v Speaker 1>he founded nothing. I mean, he has founded a company

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 1>that has the name nothing, which makes me think that

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.439
<v Speaker 1>if you were an employee of that company, you would

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.960
<v Speaker 1>automatically have a fun, quirky thing to say at cocktail parties.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, if we still had cocktail parties, it would

0:34:26.520 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>be the kind of joke that makes the other person

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of give a humorless smile and return before they

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>silently wander off to see if maybe someone's laid out

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.839
<v Speaker 1>some new snacks on the table or something. And now

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you have an insight as to what it's like when

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I go to parties. Anyway, this company nothing will apparently

0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>be making something. Exactly what that something is is a mystery.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>For now. We know that the product or products they

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>plan to introduce perhaps this year, fall into the general

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>category of smart devices, but that's a pretty big category

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>all on its own these days. I mean, it could

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>be anything from a phone to a coffee maker, or

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 1>a doorbell or toast or who knows. But the philosophy

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>of the company is one that probably feels familiar to

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>science fiction fans, the idea that technology should be so

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>advanced that just kind of fades into the background of

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>our environments and our reality, so using it should be

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.879
<v Speaker 1>just as intuitive as if it were nothing like. It's

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>right up there with breathing or blinking. By the way,

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think about breathing or blinking, because then you're gonna

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>start doing it manually and that will drive you crazy.

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.280
<v Speaker 1>We do know that the products will eventually be across

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>numerous subcategories, and that the goal is to create a

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>cohesive ecosystem within which these devices will operate. And we

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>also know that the plan is to focus more on

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the hardware side of things than on the software side.

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.799
<v Speaker 1>But that's about all we know, which you know, I

0:35:58.840 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>guess ain't nothing. Virgin hyper Loop, which is just one

0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>of the company's trying to make hyper loop or hyper

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 1>loop like train systems a reality, released a concept video

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>of what it might be like to go through a

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>hyper loop terminal board a pod, which is, you know,

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the hyper loop version of a train car, and traveled

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to a destination. The video was about two and a

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>half minutes long, and I have to admit it's kind

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of cool. The video shows a scenario which you're on

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>a pod that gets up to more than six centred

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.840
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour as it travels through tunnels that have

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>had nearly all the air removed from them, so that

0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>reduces air resistance to near zero. The video shows pods

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that have a sort of train truck or bogey on

0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the top of the pods, so you know, uh, a

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.239
<v Speaker 1>structure that fits against a track, and the track is

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>in the ceiling of the tunnel. Now that's a shift

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>from the original hyper loop design, which suggested using air

0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>bearings kind of like an air hockey table, but with

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the pod push out compressed air to float above the

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>floor of the tunnel. However, that particular approach was found

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to be impractical, so Virgin hyper loop is going with

0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>a more tried and true method of magnetic levitation. The

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 1>whole thing looked really clean and sleek and futuristic, kind

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>of like you're commuting inside of an Apple commercial or something.

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm still a little skeptical about hyper loop. I'm not

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>skeptical about the technology, mind you, but the practicality of

0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>building out the systems and operating them profitably. If traveling

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 1>by hyperloop costs the same or more as a plane ticket,

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.799
<v Speaker 1>that would be a big barrier. A study out of

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Ohio suggested that at least for a system in the

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Midwest that would connect Chicago, Pittsburgh, and Columbus. The ticket

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>prices might be about the same as it would cost

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.280
<v Speaker 1>if you were to drive from one location to another,

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and that would be pretty incredible. But building out hyper

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>loop infrastructure is going to be monumentally expensive and complicated

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:01.439
<v Speaker 1>because it involves not just construction and technology, but also

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.120
<v Speaker 1>getting the various clearances from federal, state, and local governments

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>to do it. But hey, just because it's not easy

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's impossible. And my hope is that we

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>will see hyper loop systems connecting various regional cities and

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>that my skepticism ends up being misplaced. That's what I hope.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like that's going to work out, but

0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping I'm wrong because I would personally love for

0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>there to be a hyper loop connecting, say Atlanta with Orlando, Florida.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:34.920
<v Speaker 1>In the official Google blog, we saw a post about

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 1>how covid continues to dominate our world that's not news,

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>and that it can be really challenging to navigate all

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the various information sources to find out important information like

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>where you can actually go to get vaccinated. To that end,

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Google CEO said that the company is focusing on providing

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>timely and accurate information about vaccines catered to a person's location,

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:01.040
<v Speaker 1>and he wrote that within a few weeks we should

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>see that Google Maps in places like Arizona, Louisiana, Mississippi,

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and Texas will allow you to search for locations that

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>offer the vaccine, and that the results will also have

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>accompanying information about whether you would need a referral or

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:20.120
<v Speaker 1>an appointment. Maybe it's a drive through location, all that

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, everything you need to know before you

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>actually go. Now, as someone who had spent a lot

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of time researching this kind of information for my parents,

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>who thankfully on their own, were able to get appointments,

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I definitely have an appreciation for tools that make this easier.

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do this stuff for a living, and

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:43.800
<v Speaker 1>even for me, it was a little too complicated. And finally,

0:39:44.000 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Twitter is giving a gift to the world of academia

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>and overdue gift, and that gift is free access to

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the full history of all public conversation on Twitter. Now. Previously,

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:58.279
<v Speaker 1>researchers who wanted to use that information had to pay

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>a premium to get the full record. Now they can

0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just apply to Twitter's research track for approval, and if

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.880
<v Speaker 1>they're accepted, they will be able to access the full

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 1>history of all public tweets. Now, why would anyone want

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>to do that? While they might want to research big

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 1>trends and behaviors, you know, kind of track when certain

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>things started to appear on Twitter, When did they peak,

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>when did they settle off? How did that relate to

0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 1>things that were going in the real world. So a

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of things that might be related to sociology and psychology,

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. And while it might sound scary

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>to hear that suddenly someone's got access to everything that's

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>ever been posted on Twitter, keep in mind that's not

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 1>quite accurate. It only covers public tweets, so any protected

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 1>tweets are not included in this. And it should also

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>remind us that when we post something to a public forum,

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.600
<v Speaker 1>the important thing to remember is that it is public. So, hey,

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're having second thoughts about tweeting that joke that

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you thought was funny but other people might find it offensive,

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe just don't do it. Now. That's advice

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>for everyone, including myself. I've certainly been guilty of rattling

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>off a tweet. At the time, I was like, ha, ha ha,

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:16.919
<v Speaker 1>aren't I so clever? And then like five minutes later,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I realized, oh, you know, sometimes it's better to be

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>quiet or kind than clever. In fact, frequently it's better

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>to be quiet or kind than clever, something I'm working

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>on personally, as being clever was a big part of

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>my personal identity for a long time, but now I don't.

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's necessarily the best treat for me. Anyway.

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 1>That's enough self reflection from Jonathan for this episode. If

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you guys have suggestions for topics that I should cover

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in episodes of tech Stuff, you should reach out to me.

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>The best place to do that is on Twitter. The

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