1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, said, I don't want to ask your question real. 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Let's just keep it real straight shot with no chase. 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna get a little bit rough. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: I'm here for those who really believe in the American process, 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: all of us street shot, no chase with your girl 6 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 3: tessel figure out on the Black Effect podcasting at where 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: they were. 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: If my grandfather was driving and so on, Bro, he 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: was gonna full over put his hasts on, and then 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: another bay from the neighborhood do the same thing. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 4: We just got returned to the same basic prints. 12 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: That's another thing I do like about, say, with Charleston 13 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: White talks. You know, if you take seventy five percent 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: of fluffy saying to get people to listen, he'll give 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: you twenty five percent of what old black Southern operated. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 4: Right. 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: There is an integrity in us that is unbou unbossed me, 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: not just like the southernerst period. 19 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: Right. 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: There is an integrity that the world tells us it 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: don't lover need, and I strongly you know that that 22 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: integrity to help your neighbor, help that neighbor. You know, 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: if we caught fifty fish, if we caught fifty bribs, 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: we caught some baths. Then we came home the girls 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: were cleaning and got it grandfathered up. We didn't caught it. 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: We packed it up, put in the freezer. Twenty five 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: stayed our freezer. The other twenty five were separated three 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: to five fish parcels and take it to the older 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: people who are legacy of the neighborhood who maybe couldn't. 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: Get to the grosser. 31 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: My sister grows the guarden to this day helped Steve 32 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: sixty seven other family. So we just got to get 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: back to everybody just do their little bit. All of 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: us do a little bit. Nobody has to do a lot. 35 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: But you can't let people feel overwhelmed. That's why I said, 36 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: I feel like some people, man, they just become heartbroken 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: organizers and then they become pessileists. They ain't gonna never 38 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: get right. Niggasse are niggas right now. You just got 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: to go find the right. 40 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: Niggas, the right behavior. 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: So mo niggas to get right. 42 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. That's a barn, it's a it's. 43 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: A hand speech to up Michael trying to work on it, 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: bringing age. 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: You get right, that's right, Okay. 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 6: Something that I that I that I turn to dreams experience. 47 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 6: It's a it's a school that I'm connected to the 48 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: high sdo in this city where these kids can come learn. 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,559 Speaker 5: Entertainment, arts and technology. 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 6: Good from a perspective where I can introduce these kids 51 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: to what's going. 52 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 5: To be going on tomorrow in the. 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 6: Workplaces and make them understand that everything that they want 54 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 6: to do. See most of these young guys, from my perspective, 55 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 6: when they make that. 56 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: Music, they think that the way the music is being. 57 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 6: Served to them, it's the only way you can get it. 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 5: You got to be in the trap. You gotta do 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 5: like this, you gotta do like that. But that's not 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 5: only is that not the way to get it and 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 5: keep it. 62 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 6: That's the way to get it. They come take it 63 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: and send you somewhere. They let you back out. You 64 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 6: need to get some mold. They come take it, and 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 6: and that circle goes on and on. But if you 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 6: learn this game, if you learn these skills sys, then 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 6: you can go get a job anywhere and do what 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 6: you want to do. Now, if you come over here, 69 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 6: I can show you the benefits of all these things 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 6: that I've learned. But we exist in this circle living 71 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 6: under three rules. No guns, no bodies, no threats or box. 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 6: If you could do that, then we can build this 73 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 6: circle and I can show you how to be a 74 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 6: zillionaire if you choose. And we learn, We learned to 75 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 6: respect one another and our women. We look, we will 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 6: in our neighbors, and we try to learn. We try 77 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 6: to do the best that we can with what we 78 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 6: have to be who we want to be. But it 79 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 6: ain't out there kuning each other. It ain't out there 80 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 6: not understanding the economics behind the power that you have 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: because you're making a zillion dollars and giving it away 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 6: or one that you if you got can get it, 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 6: go get it and put it back. 84 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 5: You know where you got it from that. 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 6: And at the very least you could do for folks 86 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 6: what they can't do for themselves and make that evil 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 6: if it if it is that a positive on the 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 6: other end, but you're just adding negative on top of negative, 89 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 6: thinking that your perspective is. 90 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 5: The right one and this is how we do it. 91 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 6: And if you're not doing it like this, then you're 92 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 6: weak because you're this, So you're back. So my job, 93 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 6: at least going forward is to be that example that 94 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 6: you ain't got to be this kind of gang stuff 95 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 6: to get it. 96 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 5: You can be this kind of gangs. 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: That's right, get it, that's right, that's right. 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: That's what That's what I teach in the shop. 99 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 7: And back to what you were saying about, you know, 100 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 7: opening doors, and. 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 4: And I teach men the same thing. 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 7: Hey man, go back outside, take your mind back outside. 103 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 7: Understand that. And I learned exactly what chivalry is. For 104 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 7: Chivalry is protection. That's protect. Everything that you do for 105 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 7: your woman is to protect your woman. Open the door 106 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 7: for your woman so you can see first what's going 107 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 7: on inside, and then say come on here. 108 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: That's right, while you walk down inside the street to 109 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: the street. 110 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 7: I take that. I take the shot. I take the shot. 111 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 7: That's what we're supposed to do. Jesus sacrifice himself. You're 112 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 7: supposed to sacrifice yourself for for your for your and 113 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 7: every every man that comes in this shop. We have 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 7: a gan being doctor. We have a good relationship. We 115 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 7: have a good conversation about what men are supposed to do. 116 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: And you come in here. That's that's what we talk about. 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 7: We talked. 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: We don't talk about. 119 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 7: None of that nonsense. Who got the biggest ass? 120 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 4: All that stuff? We don't care nothing about that. We 121 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: care about what you're doing, what you're doing as a man, 122 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: and what you do as a man. 123 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 2: Somebody disagreeing with you sound like, yeah, there ain't nothing. 124 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 4: Wrong with a little big ass. 125 00:05:52,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 8: Now, let's be clearest, let's be clear about it now. 126 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 8: But go ahead, we're following. You know. 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 7: The most important thing I got you, I got you. 128 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 4: It's important. It's important. 129 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 7: Gentleman means exactly what it what it says, and that's 130 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 7: what we're building. That's what I'm building. I want men 131 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 7: to understand, not not just black men, but all men 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 7: in general. We do everything. We have every conversation about everything, 133 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 7: including asses, you know, but but but more men conversations. 134 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 7: That's that's more important than men being leaders and how 135 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 7: to be a leader. 136 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: Why you should be a leader, you know, because when 137 00:06:59,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: it's time to lead. 138 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 9: When. 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: No man speak on that, brother speak on that, I 140 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: know where you're going. 141 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: The most futil thing about leadership is man delegation. Yeah, 142 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: and that's one why I've learned or anything like that. 143 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I prepared to be a leader at the time or 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: call so when it was time to pull a sword, 145 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: Peter was there when it was time to negotiate. 146 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: Paul might have been there. It's time to talk to. 147 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: A Christian killer to try to convince him how to 148 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: kill Christians that Paul used to be solved, probably even 149 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: talking like, hey man, I used to do this too, 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: But this is why Ryan Wick this guy damn so. 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: The ultimate and leadership to me is learning from leaders, 152 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: learning from the successions, failures and others, and knowing when 153 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: it's time to delegate, when. 154 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: It's time to demonstrate your leadership and delegate. 155 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: And I talk about people, people start to talk about shame, 156 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: or people say they see I talk about her a lot, 157 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: but it's because how I understood that she had a 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: unique seller qubilications that prepared her to be a leader. 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: In terms of business, I'm an artist by nature. I 160 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: like I like making money, fucking it up and going 161 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: to make some more life, you. 162 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 4: Know what I mean. 163 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: That's what artists do. It's trivial to us, the making 164 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: of the artist what matter? 165 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 8: You know what I mean? 166 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: But when I got with a girl grew up in 167 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: the housing projects. Grandma ran the liquor store, ran the 168 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: liquor house, the shot house, bought her first house with 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: the shot house, I understood that Mentally, I'm with a 170 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: person who. 171 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: Understay business far better than me. 172 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Let me confer with her about business. I have great ideas, 173 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: eyes break mark. What she has is well, this is 174 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: the ABC that get us to the identity. 175 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 176 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 4: You know. You keep banging your heads against the wall 177 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 4: wallg on w you know. 178 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: And I remember bank Head Seafood men till bought back 179 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: Head Seafood mentill it was after two weeks went the 180 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: bank Head Seafood should not. I talked to Tip. I said, hey, man, 181 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: I said, man, some ben the ship come along, you know, 182 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: just let me know. I see you got came right 183 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: down this before he built one hundred and forty three 184 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: units for the houses. 185 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: He called me back a week later like, hey, this 186 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: is this is this is what it is. 187 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 7: Now. 188 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: Now I'm like, god, damn, she just made me by 189 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: the apartment building. I wanted to buy the fucking DM 190 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: So I don't even want to tell that first, you 191 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: know what I mean. She had made me spend a 192 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: quarter me in cash on one. 193 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, damn. I said, till hit me, 194 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: I said, I talking to hit me. So I said, 195 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: what you think? She said, Yeah, that makes sense we're 196 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: gonna do it. So we did it, and then yo, one, okay, 197 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: we gotta fight like hell with these people who just 198 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: find the neighborhood. Black folks are just like, we welcome 199 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: coming back, folks who just found the neighborhood. Like then 200 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: she said, well, you got to come to the boy meetings. 201 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, what the fuck? 202 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: I got to come to the board meetings for I like, 203 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: yeah you She's like no, She's like, because people have 204 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: a prejudice against Tippa already, So we're gonna put you 205 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: at the board meets. 206 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna make sure we do that. 207 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: Got that through time we get approved of faball the 208 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: boys took us about another year and a half. They 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: put a boratory your mobile, which we couldn't be mad 210 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: about because now all. 211 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 4: People letters to rent says we don't want they price 212 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 4: you up. 213 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: And by the time we got to third yeah, me 214 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: and till life man fuck this yeah, like not in 215 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: a bad way, but just like, oh this is a process. 216 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 7: Yeah. 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: Her and Crystal who's doug wife from PSC they went 218 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: out and found the funny. Now, I you know, as 219 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: much as I sing around dance I make of money, 220 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: I can't tell you where to go find two million 221 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: dollars in funding. But she got down to the research. 222 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: She's going to find two million dollars. So that so 223 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: that me and took men have to go grab a 224 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: million out of our own money. She says, enough to 225 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: grab me on money. 226 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 2: This is how you can do this. 227 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: Like So, what I've learned from it is that part 228 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: of the biggest leadership I've learned being a man is 229 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: was it Proverbs? 230 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: I was Oka Winton. I'll put it up. But it 231 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: tells you the type. 232 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: Of wife, the virtuous woman. 233 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: Lot. She rolls up her sleeve. She goes out to 234 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 3: the field. A man walks with a chest. Maybe I 235 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: can erect. That's right. 236 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: Father, he came home and he would just give a 237 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: check to my girl. 238 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Gathering money was his It's butting against here, but that 239 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: instance the running. 240 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 2: Our house, that's right by grammar. That's right. 241 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: And and you couldn't ask him nothing without a consentation. Hey, 242 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: whity birst, I need I need well, I'm gonna talk. 243 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 3: To be so so social media social media call was 244 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: at a simp and and and and they say, it 245 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 3: doesn't matter what a woman bringing to the table. And fine, 246 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: she don't have to work. But if you don't want 247 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: a woman to bring brains to the table, every millionaire, 248 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: I don't want to stay a millionaire. And so if 249 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: you got a dummy that's raising your child. 250 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: First of all, do you want a child raised by dummy? 251 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 3: Somebody got if you on the road, somebody got to 252 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: talk to the contractor, somebody got to talk to the plumber, somebody. 253 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: So do you want a damsel in distress? Or do 254 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: you want a boss. 255 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: That know how to the virtuous woman line by line 256 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 3: and say she wake up in the morning, she take 257 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: care of her family, She take care of a man. 258 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 3: She go out to the field, she go get it, 259 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: and then she bring it back and she sew it, 260 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: and then she sold the seed. Virtuess woman the coldest 261 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 3: I can appreciate that whole, sir. She's the coldest woman 262 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 3: of it all. And it's literally lined by line. She's 263 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: a boss, and so speak to that like the importance 264 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: of But also she knows when it's your time to lead. 265 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: It's a balance, it's a knowing. I might need you 266 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: to handle a situation. She she you might need her 267 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: to handle a situation. Beyonce said, bring me and I'll 268 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: close the deal to bring me and not let me 269 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 3: go and put that extra minion on the right quick. 270 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 3: You know, jay Z was jay Z, But the ain't 271 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with Beyonce walking in the room and putting 272 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: an extra million on it too, So speak on that. 273 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: I was all the politicians. I know, our men gonna 274 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: get them smiling. And you know, I know when it's 275 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: time to talk finance and centers on interest raise, I'm 276 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: not doing the talking. You know how we've talked behind 277 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: cloth do I say, well, this thing, But I've learned 278 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: more from her. 279 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because that's what she got 280 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 4: to do. 281 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: She understands that my part of this is to protect 282 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: that I ass and our interest. 283 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 4: And women naturally selfish. 284 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: They have to be and I don't mean that in 285 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: a bad way. They have to take care of them. 286 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: They have to take care of the children, have taken 287 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: the household, so they have to be a little more 288 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: concertive in terms of things. And like thirty thousand dollars 289 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: worth of equipment could honestly be fifteen thousand, because they're 290 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, this restaurant failed. 291 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 4: They got to get off this ship. I bought my 292 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: first party shop own life. 293 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: I ain't even ask I just I just bought it 294 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: the sixth right, I bought off Craigs. Listen up, I 295 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: hate did the ship, I said the talk she taught 296 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: me for two weeks. 297 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 2: Right, because it wasn't about the six thousand. 298 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: It was about the fact that you just imposedly got 299 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: something without thinking that through. 300 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: Because she says, right, we couldn't just let him go 301 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 4: out of did. 302 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: And I said, I don't seeing there, like, I ain't 303 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: think of that. I'll operate like a dope deal in 304 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: the drought to trying to But you know, man, it's 305 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: it's weather, you know. And even even my brothers who 306 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: have like women, you know what I'm saying, Like, like 307 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: whether it's a Muslim brother just niggah playing in the streets, 308 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you want to have I've seen men have intelligence around 309 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: them flourished. 310 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: I had a buddy was a help me and shot. 311 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 4: He loved us to death, but. 312 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: Would call would call my wife miss and call his 313 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: his his women bitch. 314 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: It was the weirdest ship in the word. We've been 315 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: in a side room. 316 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: Fish Land say, and this shape makes you good, And 317 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: I'm just like this nigga crazy, But every every woman 318 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: that he had had either real estate license or expiritual 319 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: real estate. 320 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 4: So this nigga real estate and portfolio was amazed. Wow, 321 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: ended up all the dere quick nigga got out of pamphlet. Wow, 322 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: I said, this nigga's amazing. But he said, he said, 323 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: he said, I had. 324 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: Them for more than their bodies. Most bitches got a 325 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: good mind. And I was like, damn, he understood that 326 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: even beyond the body, they were selfish. He understood that 327 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: he had a treasure trove in the mind. I remember 328 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: one of the young rappers, but it's running around and 329 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: try to talk to the girls all day. They just 330 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: ignored his ass all day. And I said, I say, boy, 331 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: you ain't about no business. They don't even talk about it, 332 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: just singing a damn. I said, these women are literally 333 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: closing deals to the point that this man's got sons 334 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: of college gradually has a has a has a has 335 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: franchises now and the women too while they all got 336 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: out of the lifestyle. And and that's just to show you. 337 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: I've seen it work every way, you know. I've seen 338 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: I've seen a Muslim brothers, two three wives. I've seen 339 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: them put out a household with every child scholarship into 340 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: the into a school that was of like it was. 341 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: Either HBCUs or one of the top tier state school. 342 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 343 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I've seen them bill companies. I've seen brothers who I said, 344 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I had an offer this nigga had two families and 345 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: everybody worked out. So I'm just I don't really judge 346 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: what you do and how you are. That's what I 347 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: just say. 348 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 4: Man, be about the business of being productive. 349 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: If you've linked up with this woman, partner with her, 350 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: you know you you you know women. 351 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: Can do more than cook and wash dishes. You know 352 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. 353 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not you know, I'm not being on cooks 354 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: and don't wash the dishes. But boy, she get talking 355 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: about interest rates her loans. Should I sit there right 356 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: next to watching this? So how does shit work? 357 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: Again? 358 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 7: You know? 359 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Because I want to know because I know the more 360 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: I know, the better decisions are gonna make with us. 361 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: That's that's that's what is ultimately, That's what my grandparents 362 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: marriage showed me, that there's that there's balance. I don't 363 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: know what it qoality is and I don't know why 364 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: men and women I don't want to want to. I 365 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: don't have to be the boss. I can just be 366 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: the investors, right, you know, I be your past. I've invested, 367 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm not going to. 368 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 4: I don't. 369 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't need to lead everything I can understand, because 370 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: a true leader understands how to be late. 371 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 9: Right right, sitting there thinking about what you were saying earlier, 372 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 9: and you know you got these are conversations we have 373 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 9: in here. Also, we're talking about how some men are 374 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 9: still with my shoulder Braggadolgia's thing. But it's like if 375 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 9: you're not good with finances as a man, but your 376 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 9: lady or your wife is, yeah, I would let her 377 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 9: handle the check, and it's gonna keep us out of 378 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 9: the park. 379 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 4: I mean, one of those beauty things. 380 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I saw my great grandmother and grandfather they bought farm 381 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen forty eight, and my cousin sent me to 382 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: D And when I looked on the D they have 383 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: both their names NH. Black man truths ever black, you know, 384 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: because it's shocked me black. You know, we're really black, 385 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: black black guy. 386 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 5: I got some blackness. We might. 387 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: But I saw what I saw in that was in 388 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: my family that there's always been equity, There's always been 389 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: the quality. 390 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 4: It has always been balanced because. 391 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: When I seen them being in my family, that's how 392 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: they all dealt with their women or why it's my 393 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: uncle Glen, my uncle Bruh. 394 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: My grandfather, my aunt Ked and uncle Steadie. 395 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: All of them moved like we are a unit. Like 396 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: you know, whatever you had to ask them, they had 397 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: to go. Well, I got to go, you know, you 398 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But it wasn't never No, it's 399 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: because I say something. 400 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 7: You know. 401 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: There were a few instances where I saw a firm 402 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: hand get put down, and usually it was you have 403 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: to listen to me because I'm a man in this moment. 404 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 405 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: I told you to go get a shot, hun, get 406 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: a shot, saying I don't have time to go back 407 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: and forth while but I think, man, just I don't 408 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: want to win. 409 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 4: Mm hmm that I think we got a problem. Want 410 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: to win? You know what I'm saying to make the 411 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: person do with you. I don't. I don't want to win, 412 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 4: you know. 413 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: I won't. 414 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 4: I won't. I want. 415 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: That power, power power. 416 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 7: You know. 417 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 4: Man, Sometimes man, you win and you defeated the person. 418 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 3: Get that's right, and get and now we're both hurting, Yeah, 419 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: losing the tit. 420 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 4: On your teeth. 421 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Then they started to savat. They sit there and watch 422 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: it funk up. Well, I knew it's gonna happen. 423 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, right, Yeah. 424 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 4: So you got you got to warm each other to win. 425 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: I won't you know. I big up. 426 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I big up so many women on this album because 427 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I want them to know the influence they had on 428 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: My grandma. Glassys called me last week and she said 429 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: thank you. I said, yes, ma'am, is that you out 430 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: here on the graded commercials this hospital? I wanted, yes, ma'am. 431 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: I knew that was my grandson. I knew that was 432 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: my grandson. I told people, Man, it made me cry 433 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: like a little boy. I'm a mother fall on the 434 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: bus cried. That's because you know, my my grandmother needed 435 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: to know that everything she bought it it means something 436 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: to the great She couldn't imagine her grandson was gonna 437 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: be on the border break the hospital. 438 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 4: That's the same hospital. 439 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: What a poor children boy that she could have known 440 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: her grandson, her grandson and her granddaughter in law was 441 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna have a business that she did hear about in church, 442 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: but she nobody even know that her grand son that 443 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: and that's what that's ultimately, that's the legacy that I 444 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: think that I walked from my marriage. Even with my kids, 445 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: moms and women I dealt with. I wanted to say, man, 446 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: he's a good man. You know what I'm saying, Even 447 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: if it didn't work out, a man treat me bad. 448 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of respect for you as the artist, 449 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 5: but as a man. 450 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 6: And I studied you're you're a walker, you know in 451 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 6: this space, and it's taught me a lot, you know what. 452 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 6: I'm trying to trying to establish myself in that thing. 453 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 4: Man, it's so funny to be here. You such a 454 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 4: big part of me. 455 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: You don't understand, man, with you like I gotta give 456 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: your roses, like you don't understand what the example you said? 457 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: You know you hear people say, well he didn't come. 458 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: That was such a big this person was a provocative thing. 459 00:19:58,680 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 7: You know. 460 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but if you you did you you dune 461 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 4: you ice tea in the n W a little bit 462 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 4: as a connective ice cube of food. 463 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: And then asked me, in terms of his out his 464 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: solo career, what what what you did and what that 465 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: that era did for us was made intelligence cool. You 466 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. I knew ice T wasn't stupid. 467 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: And just Neigna had a portion of bronxul have had 468 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Dark Lean had DJ evil D. 469 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: But when he gave an interview and they asked him about. 470 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: Guns and shipped like that, and he said, man, this 471 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: defeat against Terry and he said and he said, I 472 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: was a US better and the reporter had to shut. 473 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 4: The funk up. 474 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: We could argue, you know when when when you put 475 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: together at and that felt hard. But just listen to 476 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: the track and don't realize it. 477 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: I don't have to be man. 478 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: You guys have said that I don't think you guys 479 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: get your flowers enough. And I gave Brad Geordan star face, 480 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: you know, and with the d they flowers last night 481 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: on stage. You guys don't get the credits for showing 482 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: us real of versions of masculinity. When the government was 483 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: locking up so many black men, and so many black 484 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: men were being robbed of an opportunity to impart wisdom 485 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: of young men, and we all we ended up. 486 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 4: With was a bunch of dope. 487 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: The people who we used to look up to becoming 488 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: junkies asking us for dope, and we just became a 489 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: free reign of wild shit. 490 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know we lost. There wasn't no Big Brother program. 491 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: You know. 492 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: The closest thing we had was the interviews that we 493 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: saw y'all leading, the magazine articles that we saw y'all reading. 494 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: Like I remember the first time reading an article with 495 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 4: Total Drink. 496 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: Toy to Drink was talking about being sixteen, dressed up 497 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: in suits and school care and the fucking briefcase. 498 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm just like, okay, like 499 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 4: you took this shiit see if that's sixteen. I was 500 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: still trying to figure out how self little weed to 501 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: get a demo done. 502 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: You know I just made You guys have set such 503 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: a fine example of what mascually, even with you, you know, 504 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: Jay and Dre and y'all, y'all's dealing with y'all children's 505 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: mother and y'all children set such an amazing example. If 506 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: you guys haven't seen for the justice wa Tupac and 507 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: Tolo have a little conversation outside, you know about the 508 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: baby Mama and night. You know that's that's such a 509 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: black man got to get past our egos and execurity 510 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: black people people, period, because if we want the seeds 511 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: that were planning to growth, we gotta show that we're 512 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: willing to grow. 513 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 4: We got to show that we're willing to say, well, 514 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 4: I got that wrong, that me read justice, let me 515 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 4: let me do that. 516 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 3: I think, I think what just happened is part of 517 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: me because as we talk about fifty years of hip hop, 518 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: you know, I'm always talking about how hip hop has 519 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 3: influenced social justice and politics, and Doc is saying I 520 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: want to establish myself in that vein, and I just 521 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 3: wanted to name what you just did for him, because 522 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: he's always saying you don't want to get more in 523 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: and you basically just said you've. 524 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: Been doing this. We just need you to recognize it. 525 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 3: And but still, you know, getting by this room, you know, 526 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 3: for you here, we want to organize, we want to 527 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: do this. I called hey, let's do a Dallas. I 528 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: called them first. But I just wanted to name that 529 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: because a lot of times we don't even know what 530 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 3: pouring into each other looks like. And when you pause 531 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 3: to say no, you are the why I'm here, and 532 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: so I want to make sure did you did you 533 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 3: pick up what he was sitting down. Okay, So when 534 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: you say you want to establish yourself in his vain, 535 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 3: what what does that mean? So specifically on what. 536 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: You personally right? 537 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: What what this this music and this our perform has 538 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 6: done for me. It's allowed me the space to be 539 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 6: able to grow as as a human being. 540 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 5: Now, when I put that first record out, it was 541 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 5: three months after the record came out, I had that accident. 542 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: That was the hell of a fall from me. 543 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 6: It took me many many years to be able to 544 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 6: stand up and say anything to anybody about anything. You know, 545 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 6: I was a writer, That's all I knew. So I 546 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 6: stayed in that pocket and wrote for other folks. My 547 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: only intent was to be as his instrument as I 548 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 6: could and making them great. So I've been able to 549 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 6: drive from the passtor's side and from the back seat 550 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 6: with't no problem. 551 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, I don't need you know what. 552 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: They call you a politics, they call you a king maker. 553 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: There are a lot of people, a lot of. 554 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: People who can get elected based on they smile or 555 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: how charismatic they are, but they are not very few 556 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: people that can sit next to that person. Our current 557 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: mayor is how you went out rival high schools from 558 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: the same labor but he went to maids. 559 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: He's a king. 560 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: I always remind him the two closest people in his 561 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: administration of two more powerful guys in court. Dagas said, Odi, 562 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: they went to mosque. They can't make you know. 563 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 4: I remember my man gg McGee. After accident, we were sad. 564 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: I can't even front man. 565 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, we just fans get attached to the people 566 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: that influence us. And Gg say, man, he taught me 567 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: to read crazy. He said that what doctor, You're the 568 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: first person to show me that maybe if it even 569 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't work. 570 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 4: Out for you rapid, that there is a whole other side. 571 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 4: But I human Pool did like DJ Pool. 572 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: The other day, almost wit you know what I mean, 573 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: way what they did with movies, what you did with 574 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: Righty and not only writing. People got understand Michael. My 575 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: album is not the solo work of Michael. It is 576 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: a solo representation of this nine yo boy worth Alnta. 577 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: But it's a team of people that it's because light here, 578 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: it's it's Michael Allen is my man Bear. It's no idea, 579 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: It's Ericvalley, Caine's leanam Burn mouse. It's all these people 580 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: that said, Okay, this is a story, we know where 581 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: we gotta go. This is my contribution to helping you 582 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: get there. 583 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 4: This is what I do. And you show rap that. 584 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Before anybody else, Before anybody else, it was understood that 585 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: if the docs showed up offence to doctor Drake, amazing 586 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: shit was followible. 587 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 588 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: You showed us that that that that God works in 589 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: mysterious ways, and that you were robbed of your voice, 590 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: but you've never been voicing. 591 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: Oh say that again again, Mike. 592 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 6: Finally get hold when they when they finally let this 593 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 6: documentary go. And what what you want to find out 594 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 6: is that that this entire journey started dal with a prayer. 595 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 6: And it was only after these thirty three years that 596 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 6: I understand that I'm still living in that in that 597 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 6: read house, and understanding that what I thought was the 598 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 6: worst day of my life was the beginning. 599 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 5: Of my blessing. 600 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: You know, because a raffle what they give us four 601 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: years there was a raffleship. You might have lasted about this. 602 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: I've been changed this well twenty years, been up out 603 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: of down. But you were one of the reasons I 604 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: never quit, you know in terms of doing because I 605 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: know stories, I know you know what I mean. You 606 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: you like, I really really brother, I can't express to 607 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: you enough what your journey has meant to meet you 608 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: Ice Team Ice, Hue, Brad. 609 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 4: Jordan has meant to me personally. I ain't mean it 610 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 4: should mean everybody. I'm about. What personally got almost chevy. 611 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: Black ass through was seeing my Hue rolls and do 612 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: it and persevere and he getting burned through the fire 613 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: and coming through something pure like gold whatever the other 614 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: bullshit on God, When that fire that bullshit burn off, 615 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: you get back to the ansence of what people been 616 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: digging there for. So I just want to thank you'all, 617 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: think the white man for to make me leave. 618 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: Radio. You know, I see your white man over. He understands, 619 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: he said, speak a white man talking. 620 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Coming to I want to I want to thank everybody 621 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: on the other side. I hope all hope I ain't 622 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: stepped on the toes of a fear that our meant 623 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: to And everything I said about everyone has been in 624 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: high regard, and I. 625 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 4: Really hope that that, I really hope that we can 626 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 4: just do what just everybody doing with me. Ain't nobody 627 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: going ater, but we want. 628 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 6: To thank you might fuck for everything you're doing. It's 629 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 6: a period man for the music and for the alturistic 630 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 6: things that you are doing in the community, like because 631 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 6: it allows us to say, you know what, maybe we. 632 00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 4: Need to do it. 633 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: Look, just do your little and doing your little as 634 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: easy as it is. Find someone doing the work and 635 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: say how can I help? However they needs you. 636 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: To help help. 637 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: So if teds calmed and say hey, I'm doing this 638 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: in your town, post it off for me, he'll come through. 639 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: I would show up and he does what she asks 640 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: because she does the work. There's always someone doing the work, 641 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: and what they need is a set of hands. And 642 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: if we're all doing a little, no one has to 643 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: do a lot. And I'm gonna tell people, as this 644 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: presidential race comes up, people are gonna be saying, if 645 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: you ain't on team, this is like the Dallas Cowboys 646 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: versus Old Washing Redskins. 647 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 4: Just stay hyper local. 648 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: Know who's running for prosecuting Know who's running for city 649 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: council commission, follow people like Tedz. You know, listen, listen 650 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: to people who you know doing the work. And that's 651 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and we'll be We're gonna be over I truly believe. 652 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I love y'all, Man Around. 653 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: The Balls, Killer Mike DLC. 654 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 3: If you like what you heard on Straight Shot No Chaser, 655 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 3: please subscribe and drop a five star review and tell 656 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: a friend. Straight Shot No Chaser is a production of 657 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 3: the Black Effect podcast Network in iHeartRadio on TESZLM figure 658 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: out and I'd like to thank our producer editor mixer 659 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: Dwayne Crawford and our executive producer Charlottagne to God. 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