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Speaker 2: No, it's the rear tire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a flat Michael? You with me?

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Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah? Yes?

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Speaker 1: YOHI what is now? Is now a good time?

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Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of something right now. Actually, it's just.

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Speaker 1: It's just really just like a little pop quiz that

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Speaker 1: we prepared for you to see what you took in

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Speaker 1: from the season. We're going to do it Jeopardy style.

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Speaker 2: What does that even? What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Question one?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: All right? Who are the owners and the governing bodies

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Speaker 1: Formula one?

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that's two questions.

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Speaker 1: Always with the smart alecky comment.

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Speaker 2: Uh. The owners are the people that own the teams,

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Speaker 2: and the governing body is the is the Formula.

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Speaker 3: One Association incomplete?

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Speaker 1: Second question, this public personality arrogantly described F one strategy

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Speaker 2: Christian Horner.

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Speaker 1: No, who is Michael Costa? Oh shit? I did say that.

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Speaker 1: I really thought you would get this one. Third question.

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Speaker 1: This tool used in F one design, car set up

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Speaker 2: Oh well, this one's easy. This is a softball. That's

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Speaker 2: computational fluid dynamics all right.

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Speaker 1: Question four, what are the number of compounds for a

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny you bring up tires because I'm actually

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've mentioned that.

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Speaker 2: It's not my tire issue. It's actually the inner two.

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Speaker 4: There's soft, hard, medium, rain, and there's another one maybe

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Speaker 4: like lightning or maybe altitude five.

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Speaker 2: I would say five.

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Speaker 1: Question five, what is the amount of trucks used to

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Speaker 2: I mean, as if anybody knows the actual answer, this

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need a number, Michael, that's how these things were.

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Speaker 1: Four hundreds could be anything from okay, I get it, yo.

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Speaker 2: Hi. I'm literally like waiting to get my bike so

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Speaker 2: I can go pick up my kid. I would say

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty trucks. All right, So I don't

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Speaker 2: find out if I got this right or not or what.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I will say you're off by a magnitude

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Speaker 2: You know, YOHI. It's nice to see you've kept that

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a shot at a bonus point here,

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Speaker 1: what is the equivalent weight in elephants of the air

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Speaker 1: freight that each team ships per race?

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Speaker 2: Well, this is what I remember. It was the elephants, right?

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Speaker 2: What is eight elephants?

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Speaker 1: I knew he should talk to you in elephants, I

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Speaker 1: told Tony. Question six. F one driver Charles Leclair has

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Speaker 1: been worrying Lily Harmon frequently by wearing this style of trousers.

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Speaker 4: Lily, I mean, how am I supposed to know what

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Speaker 4: Lily's doing? What are flight pants?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Fuck?

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Speaker 2: Dang it?

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Speaker 1: Question seven. At two hundred and thirty four point nine

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Speaker 2: Who is max firsteven?

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Speaker 1: Question eight? What each F one team must design and build.

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Speaker 4: Themselves branding strategy, restrooms for their teams, the helmet, the pants,

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Speaker 2: You know they all have like cool logos or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Said, so many things that none of them are right? God?

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Speaker 2: How long is this quiz?

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Speaker 1: Question nine? What is the kinematic viscosity? The F one

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Speaker 1: engine oil must comply with JIM as specified by the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Formula one Technical Regulations Menu that's tricky.

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Speaker 2: Are you using the standard ASTM D four four five measurements?

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Speaker 1: That's correct?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, then I'll say what is two point

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Speaker 1: Question ten?

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Speaker 2: Oh, why are you sure we're only on ten?

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Speaker 1: Michael? Michael, please focus? Okay, here we go. Question ten.

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Speaker 1: This classic F one car was described by choosing Side's

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, this must have been that episode when I

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Speaker 2: came in blackout trunk the cars of the early two thousands.

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Speaker 3: Wrong.

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Speaker 1: Last question, This F one driver won more than half

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Speaker 2: Oh you know who's good in the rain? Somebody from

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Speaker 2: a shitty weather Lance stroll. The Canadian guy.

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Speaker 3: Very wrong.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I have a question for you two. Who's going

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Speaker 2: to be late to pick up his kid at daycare

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Speaker 2: now and probably be charged anywhere from thirty to fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your time, Michael, I appreciate it. I

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Speaker 1: know you have a busy day, so I'm gonna let

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Speaker 1: you get back to that bike.

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Speaker 2: Or wait, how did I do him? Did I? Pass.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, we don't worry. We'll we'll we'll have to

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Speaker 1: crunch the numbers. So yeah, well we'll get back to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll call you, don't call us.

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Speaker 2: From My Heart Podcast one on one Studios and Sports

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Speaker 2: Illustrated Studios.

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Speaker 3: This is choosing sides.

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Speaker 2: Yes one, Wow? Wow? How many a earlier?

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Speaker 5: There's eleven? You've already got yours? No, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Here is that on your computer?

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Speaker 3: In a nondescript time, After hard day's labor in the

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Speaker 3: grueling New York City comedy scene, comedian Michael Costa walks

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Speaker 3: into the studio and collapses on the carpet floor. His

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Speaker 3: back is killing him.

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Speaker 2: Oh geez.

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Speaker 3: The weight of a consequential decision he is about to

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Speaker 3: make is weighing down on his fragile shoulders. His sympathetic

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Speaker 3: co host, his guide, his oracle, is trying to focus

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Speaker 3: him on the task at hand.

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Speaker 5: A man at his breaking point, ready to give up

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Speaker 5: in life itself.

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Speaker 3: With her calm and authoritative voice, she reviews the eleven

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Speaker 3: distinct categories of F one fans that roam this big

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Speaker 5: So we've got business right, strategy, right, stats and data right.

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Speaker 3: Michael now on his hands and knees, arches his back,

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Speaker 3: pushing his tailbone towards his feet in what is known

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Speaker 3: their producer frantically paces back and forth, his eyes on

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Speaker 3: the clock, measuring the rapidly evaporating studio time. He coaxes

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Speaker 3: the two co hosts into action.

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Speaker 6: Michael, Yes, Tony, Yeah, Yo, Hi you guys ready?

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Speaker 5: We are? I think we are.

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Speaker 6: You had a chance to mold us over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually got a hotel room this weekend. I

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Speaker 2: this over. I'm very ready.

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Speaker 6: You're ready. It's exciting, Okay, I think I think we're

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Speaker 6: sounds like we're ready, yep.

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Speaker 5: After the races. So, Michael, we started this whole thing off, however,

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Speaker 5: many weeks ago, because you contacted us with a complaint.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 5: You were promised to be initiated into the sports, and

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Speaker 5: then you found yourself after an entire season of choosing

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Speaker 2: I know just enough now that I know that I

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Speaker 2: don't know anything, and I blame you for that. YOHI

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Speaker 2: is that everything? Even say your name? Yeah? That's exactly

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Speaker 2: what happened. I lived it. You don't have to remind

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Speaker 2: me of it. I needed guidance on what type of

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Speaker 5: And the great thing is you are not alone, Michael.

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Speaker 5: Many of our Season one listeners were also writing to

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Speaker 2: I bet, I'm not surprised. That's how I felt.

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Speaker 5: It's being quite the journey that we've had together. We

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Speaker 5: tried to dive in deeper with you, and of course,

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Speaker 5: every one of the single topics that we chose deserves

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Speaker 5: a whole, entire podcast series dedicated to it, and there

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Speaker 5: are podcasts out there that dedicate a whole podcast to

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Speaker 5: the culture and the fashion of F one, the tech

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Speaker 5: But what we were trying to do is to strike

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Speaker 5: a balance between enriching you, answering you many many, many

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Speaker 2: Right, how did we do?

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Speaker 6: I guess maybe I'll just bring the listeners in here.

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Speaker 6: Michael keeps breaking our recordings to do downward Dog and

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Speaker 6: different yoga poses, Childs post basically, Yeah, so maybe we

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Speaker 5: You, okay, do you need a recap?

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Speaker 5: Let me give you the briefest recap I can think of.

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Speaker 5: We started by talking about the business model of Formula one,

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Speaker 5: We talk strategy and game theory, explaining why Formula one

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Speaker 2: Rubber tire episode, the tire.

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Speaker 5: Episode, the one and only with a Y with a

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Speaker 5: a Y? Or am I getting my hot? Fantastic? We

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Speaker 5: Actually a great tiger And by the way, Formula one

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Speaker 2: I put tennis up there, too, careful, careful.

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Speaker 5: We did the skill and the speed. Then we stood

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Speaker 6: It was a delightful delivery to thank you.

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Speaker 5: And now we're here.

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Speaker 3: And now we are here, there's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of good stuff. There's a lot a lot of

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a lot here that I didn't think

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Speaker 5: I do have one question for you today, and it

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Speaker 5: question I have for you on this monumental occasion, Yes,

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Speaker 2: No? All I have now are answers. You, Tony, have

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Speaker 2: answered everything, and your TikTok answers everything. And forty seconds

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Speaker 5: Of F one at speed two eggs.

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Speaker 5: Michael, it would feel incomplete and unfair to close out

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Speaker 2: What this is is Lewis? You know, I don't remember

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Speaker 2: So there we go. They've already made a shitload of

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Speaker 2: This is not sport related.

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Speaker 5: This is nothing.

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Speaker 2: This is personal. This is in the sexual misconduct realm.

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Speaker 5: It is in the misconduct realm.

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Speaker 6: There's like this weird, almost mystical connection sometimes I feel

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Speaker 2: Right are you saying horner because it's like horny?

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Speaker 6: I mean, am I the only one?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a stupid point, yo, Hi, And I

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Speaker 2: He is a massive, powerful person and should be held

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Speaker 5: Michael for you. We've you know, did he daddied enough?

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Speaker 3: Here?

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Speaker 5: It's time for you to make your choice. Have you

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Speaker 6: Maybe? Well, Michael's thinking here, yeah, he's taking his time.

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Speaker 9: All right, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 9: Not necessarily, I would say I was on the Fringes

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Speaker 5: That's another great name for a podcast, on the Fringes

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Speaker 2: If you take my role in this whole thing, I

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Speaker 5: I'm actually curious? Do you think that after all of

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Speaker 5: So out of the different fans that we presented, you

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Speaker 5: Yes, I love that. Okay, sometime, thank you, Michael, No

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Speaker 2: I have a major and a minor and then a

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Speaker 5: So wait before you tell us what kind of fun

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Speaker 5: you were indulge me, what kind of funnel you not?

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Speaker 2: Logistics is out now? Yeah, I mean it's cool, but

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Speaker 2: I would date glitz and glamour, but I want to

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Speaker 2: This is tough. This is you can tell Tony's good,

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Speaker 5: You so no, no to logistics.

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Speaker 2: I'm still I'm picking my two favorite right, the ones.

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Speaker 2: They are the reasons that I would be a fan

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Speaker 2: of this formula one.

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Speaker 5: There are consequences to what you say. If we haven't

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Speaker 5: told you this, yeh.

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Speaker 2: Do my wife take over Tony's body?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: So those three I would I would probably rule out okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: fair yeah, weather on the in the playing field. I'm

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Speaker 2: business tech still on the playing fields, Okay, Okay.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised wether still there. I'm not gonna know.

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Speaker 2: I do like when it rains in an F one race.

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Speaker 2: It's very fun. I hope they never stop that, hope

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Speaker 2: they allow.

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Speaker 5: That climate sticks with us and we still have rain.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I could see them being so tech driven that

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Speaker 2: they could actually just make rain and just say, like

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Speaker 2: you know, they'll do it. Yeah, yeah, it's like safe rame.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Michael, it's time. I have a feeling our listeners

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Speaker 5: are just you know, they're just at the edge of

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Speaker 5: their seats right now. Dunk but you but you take

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Speaker 5: your time, sip your water, sit your warm tea's. You know,

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Speaker 5: no one's in a rush yet.

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Speaker 6: Actually, Tony, we have to clear the studio in about

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Speaker 6: nine minutes.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So I I had a lot of internal struggle

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Speaker 2: and this was almost my choice. Okay, business was almost

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Speaker 2: my choice because I do think what makes this whole

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Speaker 2: thing drive around in circles is the money. And it's

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Speaker 2: fascinating to learn about sponsorship and decals and who they're

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Speaker 2: willing to take money from because all of this drives

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Speaker 2: pun intended on the business side of this, and the

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Speaker 2: fact that even the number one team and driver right

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Speaker 2: now are a commercial energy drink just even is more

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Speaker 2: clear how important business is in the sport. But that's

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Speaker 2: not what I picked.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: The game strategy really surprised me, and I would have

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Speaker 2: predicted that I did not care that much much about that,

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Speaker 2: But that is really cool to me that they have

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Speaker 2: so many secret plans and they think so far ahead,

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Speaker 2: and they have so much data which helps them determine

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Speaker 2: what's going on. And there's two drivers in the same

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Speaker 2: team and they kind of compete, but they kind of

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Speaker 2: use each other and help each other. I find game

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Speaker 2: strategy really interesting, and it got me thinking about other

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Speaker 2: sports and how often you spend weeks on strategy all sports,

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Speaker 2: I mean literally, and if the football teams meet Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Thursday on the strategy for that week. So I believe

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Speaker 2: I was downplaying strategy a little bit, and then I

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Speaker 2: really started thinking about other sports and there's huge emphasis

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Speaker 2: on strategy, which to me gave me some credibility, like, oh, yeah, Michael,

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Speaker 2: you've spent you spend days preparing for a tennis match

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Speaker 2: with the strategy involved. So I like that, but it's

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Speaker 2: not what I picked. Okay, what I picked is at

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Speaker 2: the foundation of this sport. It's what makes everything go.

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Speaker 2: It's the reason that the world wars ended in those

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Speaker 2: same people shifted to another activity because they want to

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Speaker 2: go fast. People want to go fast, and they want

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Speaker 2: to burn gasoline, turn it into a flame, which then

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Speaker 2: creates a drive train which shoots a fucking rocket onto

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Speaker 2: the ground as fast as it can go. Period speed

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Speaker 2: and skill. Good night, Sultan, turn off my Mike.

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Speaker 5: That was a very faultful ones.

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Speaker 2: I just think you can't. You can't talk about anything

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Speaker 2: else in front of speed, the whole reason we're here.

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Speaker 5: So I guess next season we're going to do a

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Speaker 5: whole season on just speed.

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Speaker 2: What is my favorite miles per hour? It's a two

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighteen? What's gonna nineteen?

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Speaker 5: We are going to have to agree that if we

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Speaker 5: do it, it has to be in connomittants.

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Speaker 2: Sure that was easy. Yeah, you know, I I learned

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Speaker 2: a lot Tony. It's really fun. You have a breadth

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Speaker 2: of knowledge. I also really respect that. Sometimes I'll just

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Speaker 2: say I don't fully know the answer to that, because

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Speaker 2: this is a complicated subject.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm also here.

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Speaker 2: I forgot the jas here and YOHI you know a

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Speaker 2: lot too. But you're not in the main room. You're

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Speaker 2: in the back room with Sultan. Let me tell you

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Speaker 2: what I one of the things I really enjoy about

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Speaker 2: F one. Tell me I really appreciate how team principles

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Speaker 2: and drivers will assume accountability, responsibility for errors.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, guys, yeah, sorry, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Have and young people, if you're listening, the reason those

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Speaker 2: people are so qualified and such experts and got to

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Speaker 2: such a high level of knowledge is because they were

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Speaker 2: able to be objective enough and say I got this wrong.

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Speaker 2: I made a mistake today, and I'm going to learn

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Speaker 2: from it.

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Speaker 5: I also think there's no room to hide when you

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Speaker 5: fuck up. It gets pretty like the datas.

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Speaker 2: That's probably like the more realistic answer, like everything's recorded.

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Speaker 5: Wait, you don't think bend us in four K. With

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Speaker 5: the one hundred different cameras that were available and all

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Speaker 5: the DASA sets that we now have.

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Speaker 2: It is hard to say I screwed UPDOS but grown

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Speaker 2: ups do that. Yeah, And because of that, I'm still

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Speaker 2: a child Friday. It's Saturday, Sunday. What it's Friday. It's

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Speaker 2: one of those subjects that the more you know, the

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Speaker 2: more questions you have, but also the more interested you are.

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Speaker 2: It's not one of those subjects where like I went

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Speaker 2: to ballet once and I liked the ballet, and then

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Speaker 2: I started to kind of dig into it and I said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I don't like ballet. I don't need

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Speaker 2: to know more about ballet. Oh you are a ballerina.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That was a bad example. It was one

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Speaker 2: of those subjects where like, as I got into it,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm good with my with my knowledge level,

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Speaker 2: but formula one you dive in and you go, you

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Speaker 2: know what, I want more of this. I want to

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Speaker 2: know more of this.

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Speaker 6: How do we say goodbye?

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Speaker 2: Let's not cry because it's over. Let's smile because it happened.

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Speaker 6: I think I think we did that last season.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 6: Okay, we're gonna we're gonna cut to a quick ad

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Speaker 6: break and then we're gonna come back and call Michael

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Speaker 6: at an inconvenient time to discuss his test results.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, Michael, how's it going. Oh shit, I've been

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Speaker 1: jotting this call, and I'm sorry to hear that you're

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Speaker 1: calling to tell me how I did on the test. YEP,

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Speaker 1: I did bad, right, Unfortunately, Yeah, it's not it's not great, Michael.

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Speaker 1: You got a three out of ten?

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Speaker 2: What? Oh, that isn't good considering I hosted a Formula

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Speaker 2: one podcast. I should do better than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we've we've actually heard from management.

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Speaker 2: We have management.

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Speaker 1: Apparently there's there's some you know, they want you to

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Speaker 1: do the season over.

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Speaker 2: I wish we had an HR department. I could take

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Speaker 2: up some of the some of the stuff.

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Speaker 1: With you were contracted to, you know, learn and it

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Speaker 1: seems like you're you're going backwards instead of forward and

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Speaker 1: you're in your F one knowledge. They don't really understand

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Speaker 1: how that could be considering all the experts we've talked

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Speaker 1: to and the amount of hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean explaining this to you, I

586
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Speaker 2: mean a lot of time is past tel management that

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Speaker 2: a lot of time has passed. And also a pop

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Speaker 2: quiz what am I junior high? If you would have

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Speaker 2: told me to get ready?

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Speaker 1: We wanted a they wanted a real picture of what

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and frankly, this this bears badly on me.

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Speaker 1: As well, you know, Michael, I mean, I don't bring

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Speaker 1: this up, but this isn't a good look for me either.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good look for anybody. So what do

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Speaker 2: we have to what do we have to do?

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately they there, it looks like they're going to ask

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Speaker 1: you to to do the season over.

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Speaker 2: Oh really? All right, Well I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry if it gives you more work.

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00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: But also I'm at the the bike shop and you

601
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Speaker 2: called me with the pop quiz. This is ridiculous. But okay,

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00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: well thanks, say hi to Tony and Lily and all

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Speaker 2: of iHeartMedia podcasts and Sports Illustrated in one on one studios.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, sorry if I'm the big letdown. Yeah, well

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Speaker 2: it'll be good to see Walter again. Well yeah, I

606
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: can't say he he's too fond of the pod either.

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00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: He sound asleep right now.

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00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: Oh that's cute.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what can I hang up? Now? I got it?

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Speaker 2: I got like I do have a life, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, all right, go go to your life, Michael.

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Speaker 2: All right, bye, bye, bye, Tony, have fun with you.

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Speaker 10: I this has been Choosing Signs One, a production of

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Speaker 10: Sports Illustrated Studios iHeart Podcasts and one oh one Studio Podcasts.

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Speaker 10: The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown.

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Speaker 10: This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by senior

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Speaker 10: producer Jojai may Thadle. Scott Stone is the executive producer

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Speaker 10: and head of Audio, and Daniel Wexman is Director of

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Speaker 10: podcast Development and production Manager at one o one Studios.

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Speaker 10: At iHeart Podcasts, Sean Titne is our executive producer and

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Speaker 10: a special thank you to Michelle Newman, David Glasser, and

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Speaker 10: David Hootkin from one o one Studios. For more shows

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Speaker 5: A lot now