1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, you want my two cents, it's worth five bucks. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: That's where we're rupted. Yeah, that's it's it's a five 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: vehicle because right right off the bat you gotta put 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: a radiator in it. Did I ever back a thousand 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: dollars that Car Doctor? Anytime somebody says to me, hey, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: we plugged in and we got no codes, my question 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: is did it even communicate? Welcome to the radio home 8 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: of ron and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 10 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six and now running. Hey, 14 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: thanks for stopping by the garage. That I always a 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: pleasure on. I look forward to this eating every week. 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: It was a it was a great week at the shop. 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: It really Wasn't you know this this weekend that on 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: Friday and Friday the thirteenth never lets me down in 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: the shop because it usually there's always some bizarre, little 20 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: bizarre thing that happens that you know you and you 21 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: survive it. And you go, well, I guess tricks of 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: xaphobia really isn't true, right, We're not afraid of Friday. 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: We had a we had a fourteen Kia Optima in 24 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: the shop Friday this week, Friday thirteenth, four tires and 25 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: a trans service and an oil change and some other things. 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: And the way you fill the transmission on the key 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: is like a lot of the vehicles of this generation 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: is there's no dipstick and you have to remove a 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: plug from the top of the trans to fill and 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: then there's a poor plug or a spec plug out 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: the side, and and you know, you measure it that way. 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: You know it's Friday the thirteenth when you go to 33 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: take the plastic plug out the top of the trans 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: and it snaps, and you know, the threaded portion is 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: still in the transmission itself, and you're you're standing there 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: with the top half in your hand, going huh. And 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: you look at it and you can see that somebody 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: apoxyed the threads, like tried to apoxy the part that's 39 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: in the trans and the part that's in your hand together. 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: The last time they checked the fluid level or added 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: fluid to it and didn't bother to tell the vehicle owner, 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: and now he's left with you know, and I'm left 43 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: with what do I do? Um? So we we we 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: made it work. We we were able to order one 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: from Kid's probably coming on a slow boat from Karia. 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: It'll be here Wednesday or Thursday, so it's not that slow, 47 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: but it's it's a twenty dollar piece of plastic or 48 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: something like that. And we are TV the old plug 49 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: back and we already get the threaded piece out. We 50 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: walked around with a screwdriver and got it out. But um, 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: the end of the story was the customer had keys 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: doing a lot of engine warranties right now, and when 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: they know, when they pulled the engine, they pulled the 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: engine and the trans together, and the axles were oute. 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: They had to fill the trans and when they did that, 56 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: the tech just broke the plug, which okay, it happens, 57 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: but you know, replace it. Just cheese over the parts 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: sky in order to plug the way I did, and 59 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, do the right thing. Don't don't set me 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: up for a Friday of the thirteenth headache, but um, 61 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, Friday of the thirteenth to kind of look 62 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: forward to whatever you're it's sort of exciting. Let's get 63 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: over to Larry in Iowa and see what's going on. 64 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: A twelfth sion and some throttle body questions. Larry, Welcome 65 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hi? Ron? 66 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Um so, So, my it's actually 67 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: my brother in law's card. Um He had a code 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: a while back and it was for the for the 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: actual accelerator pedal um and he cleared that out himself, 70 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: you know, with just a generic reader and all that. 71 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Um so, so that code has not come back. Well, 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: he replaced the pedal with a new one and there 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: was a Toyota part, but it's still didn't it still 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't help. So the so the initial problem is it 75 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: has a um has a hard time accelerating like up 76 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: a hill. Um so. So when I looked at it 77 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: on my skin tool, so I and I'm not sure 78 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: if I'm right. Is that the throttle body is that 79 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: like a potential eminator or whatever. Well, there's there's there's 80 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: two throttle position sensors. There's one that goes five to 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: zero and one that goes zero to five vaults. It's 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna have a cross reference on it every every drive 83 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: by wire. Car has to have that because they have 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: to put some kind of fail safe and redundancy. And 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: you know they're they're they're running the throttle electronically. They 86 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: want everything to match. But let me, let me just 87 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: back up a second. You're saying it has a low 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: power up a hill complaint. So was that problem there 89 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: prior to the check engine light coming on? Yeah, yes, 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah, so so, and I'll just I'll exaggerate 91 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: for the sake of radio so we can all understand it. 92 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Um January one, it developed this low power problem somewhere 93 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: around March. It turned on a check engine light that 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: pointed towards a throttle body fault? Did it was for? 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: The code was actually for the accelerated PREDI It was 96 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: like it was a P two one two I think 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: it was. So it had a it had an accelerator 98 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: pedal position fault. He replaced the accelerator pedal position sensor 99 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: or assembly and the code's gone, but he still has 100 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the low power complaint. Yes, okay, why do you And 101 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm not picking on your brother, I'm just trying to 102 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: understand your your line of thinking here, Why do you 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: think this is a throttle body related issue. Then, um 104 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: well when I okay, so I hooked it up. I 105 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: mean I don't have you know, an exaggerate you know, 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: an I got a skian tool. But um so my field, 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the fuel terms were good. Um they were reading. Um 108 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: I just I was reading total fuel trim when we 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: were driving it around. Um so in the total fuel 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: trim never changed. It was always zero. Um. And then 111 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: but uh, when I looked at there's like a throttle 112 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: position one in a throttle position too, that was four. 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: So it was like point nine um millie volts or 114 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: volts on the one and two points something on the 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: other one. And when we were and when we would 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: press on the pedal, those they'd never really changed much. 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 1: I mean they changed little, but they didn't change enough. 118 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: So when but when I unplugged it, I unplugged a 119 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: throttle body, they both did go to four volts. They 120 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: both circuit. Yeah. So okay, so let me let me 121 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: do this. Take your scan tool, throw it in your toolbox. 122 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: It's broken, all right, how are you gonna check voltage? Uh? 123 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Well with the vote meter? Did you do that? I 124 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: did not, That's what I was asking that because I'm 125 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: not for sure. I don't know if I needed a 126 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: scope or I mean, listen, basic a scope is nice. 127 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: But you know what, and I've said this for years 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: that and I know it's funny. I was just looking 129 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: at it the other day. I have my favorite scan 130 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: tool for quick, simple in and out. You know, the 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: customer pulls up to the door, the check engine lights 132 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: on ron tell me what's going on? Is this? And 133 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: it's looking beat now, it's been up, it's been hanging 134 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: by the door since two thousand two. Do the math, right, 135 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: my generic O b D two reader and i'll you know, 136 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: check engine lights and you know, I'll go look at 137 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: data stream. And while you know O b D two 138 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: is very generic and it's not exact, real solid information, 139 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: it gets me in the game, all right. So you 140 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: don't need more than what you have if what you 141 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: have is gonna read data stream and you're smart enough 142 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to read with a voltmeter for what you're working on. 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying scopes are not needed. There's a lot 144 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: of vehicles we need scopes on today. There's a lot 145 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: of times where you might as well put your voltmeter 146 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in the draw if you're working on a newer vehicle, 147 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: because you're just your voltmeter isn't even fast enough to 148 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: catch what's going on the glitches and the things that 149 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: go wrong. But if you want to just check general 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: voltage and all you have as a volt meter, all 151 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen by checking it with 152 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: a meter instead of your scan tool is you're gonna 153 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: learn how to hook your your volt meter up. Not 154 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: such a not such a bad thing, right, And I guess, 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: I guess. My point is what I'm hearing, and I 156 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: don't Again, I'm not trying to be you know, wrong 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: or rude is don't be afraid to hook something up. 158 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: You know, don't be afraid to hook something up. And 159 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: remember part of part of diagnostics is tell me what's good. 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: This way I can tell you what's bad. You know, 161 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean that you've got a problem in 162 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: the throttle body. How do you know that scan tools working? Right? Yeah? 163 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: You know? If if you read, if you read, you know, 164 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: three volts on on a meter and the scan tools 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: telling you point eight and you go to the battery 166 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: and the batteries twelve volts and you read twelve volts 167 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: on the meter. Guess what the meters write the scan 168 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: tool is reading wrong? You know, it's it's and and 169 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: sometimes you know, as I said to my friend Tim 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: the other day, Tim had a bar one of my 171 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: scantels over the weekend and he said, are you okay 172 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: till Monday? I said, yeah, I'll get by it with 173 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: the other sixteen. Um. You know, sometimes this is why 174 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you need more than one scan tool in a shop 175 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: because you're you're you're always comparing did this work? Did 176 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: that work? Is this reading correct? So anyway, yeah, let's 177 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: measure voltage. Let's get a wiring diagram out and look 178 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: to see. You're gonna have you ever measure a throttle 179 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: position censor by itself, all right, So you're gonna have 180 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a ground, you're gonna have a reference 181 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: meaning signal back, and you're gonna have voltage, usually a 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: five volts signal. So now you've got a throttle body 183 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: that should have to throttle position sensors in it. And 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: all they do is one works high and one works low. 185 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: One starts at the bottom and works its way up, 186 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: one starts at the top and works its way down. 187 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: It's it's that simple. Grab a wiring diagram. It's a 188 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: six wire connector you probably have a common ground trying 189 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: to think and in twelve, but the diagram will tell 190 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: you and then you know, go from there. Um, you 191 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: can't hurt anything. You can't hurt anything with a volt 192 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: me to remember that, so you'll be just from it now, 193 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: throttle body aside. And this is what I'm gonna leave 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: you to ponder. I don't think you do. But you know, 195 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: how do you know you don't have a restricted exhaust. 196 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how bad this lack of power is 197 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: or be a trans issue that the trans isn't in 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: the right gear and it doesn't accelerate, because it's kind 199 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: of like you know, you're on your tent speed bike 200 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: and you're you're you know, you're in the wrong gear 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: trying to get up the hill. So well, when if 202 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: you push on, if you push on the accelerator slow, 203 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: I mean it'll it'll get up and go like if 204 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: you like, if you mash it to the if you 205 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: mash it to the floor, that that's when it has 206 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, the delay. I guess you would say um 207 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: or the or the lack of power. But but if 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you do it slowly, it'll it will get up to 209 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: speed and go okay, so do the things we're talking about. 210 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: Let's see what it comes back with. And then the 211 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: last thing I'm gonna leave you with is keep in 212 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: mind in twelve and this is not a lot of 213 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: drive by wire vehicles. I believe there is something on 214 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: the order of forty or forty five individual fault codes 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: that if they said on that vehicle, it will put 216 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: the vehicle into failsafe so nothing bad can happen to 217 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: the operator, i e. The throttle body circuit has a problem, 218 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: if that throttle body circuit has a problem, and I 219 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: believe they look at the throttle body on that car 220 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: with up to I think it's twenty six or twenty 221 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: seven different fault code, circuit test, performance, test, high, low, bottom, top, left, right, 222 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: You get it, Um, you'd be in failsafe mode. You'd 223 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: know it, so you would have a code, you would 224 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: have other issues, you would have indicators on the dash. 225 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: So let's let's just go through this one step with 226 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: a piece of the puzzle at a time and think 227 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: what makes an engine low power and react like that, 228 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,599 Speaker 1: carbon deposits and so on. Keep going, Larry, You're in 229 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: the right direction. Call me next week. Zero the car 230 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: doctors coming back right after us. That's right. If you 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: call and we're not live, you can leave a message 232 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: and we'll call you back to get you on the 233 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: air with Ron eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: Speaking to Ron here he is, Hey, let's welcome w 235 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: n d F up there in Binghamton, New York. Tom. 236 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: That's up in your nick of the woods, isn't it. 237 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: They they're part of the Car Doctor family now carrying 238 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: the show's kind of up there. I've been to the station. 239 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Very nice station, very nice people. Yeah, very nice, very 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: nice group. And we're glad to be there with him 241 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: w n BF. So um, we're happy to be a 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: board and have been part of our family too. Hey, Tom, 243 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: take me over to Roman and New Jersey. Let's see 244 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: what's going on with this Dodge ram and there you go. Roman, 245 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor sir. How can I help? Yes? Hello, Uh, 246 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: I have a problem. I did the head gasket on 247 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: my truck like like you advise me to, and the 248 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: truck runs like no, everything's rate with it now. Right 249 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: after I did the head gasket, there was like a 250 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: few codes, but you know I clear them, and you 251 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: know everything went away. I had to change one oxygen sensor. 252 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: Everything went away other than this to zero like lean 253 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: on bank one. And it does not set the check 254 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: engine light on. But yet the code is there. Could 255 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: I just keep driving it? Do I do something? Well? 256 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait what do you what do 257 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: you mean the check engine light doesn't come on? How 258 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: do you know it doesn't? The codes there? If I 259 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: check the codes, it's there. It's not just pending. It's there. 260 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: But the check engine light does not go on. This 261 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: code does not the light go on, and the check 262 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: engine light works. The check insine light works. Yeah, you 263 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: turn the key on the code reader it says it's off. 264 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 1: You know that it's the You know you turn the 265 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: You turn the key on, and the engine is off. 266 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: The check engine light bulb lights up for at least 267 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: five seconds before it turns itself off. Yes, yes, the 268 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: bulb passes bulb check it works. Yes, it works. And 269 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: and that's the only code I have. Before I had 270 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: other codes like be something with four thirty for the 271 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: cattle converter inefficiency and that's gone. Uh, that's gone. That 272 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: used to put the set the check engine light. But 273 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: this code does not. Have you tried, have you tried 274 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: putting a fault code into the system to see if 275 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: you get a check engine light. Uh, I didn't try. 276 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: Now when I had a few, I had a few. 277 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Turn it on. Why don't we? Why don't we? Well, 278 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: because I've I've seen cases with Chrysler where the code 279 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: gets locked hard into the into the computer's memory, and 280 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: it you try to erase it and it doesn't erase. 281 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: All right, do this P two zero nine six is 282 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: a performance fault, meaning that you're you're sitting there, key on, 283 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: engine off. If you go in and clear the code, 284 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: that code, it should clear the differences. I'll explain it 285 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: like this. Go to the vehicle, run codes, all right, 286 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: turn the key off, go outside, Disconnect the throttle position 287 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: sensor something other than the O two And I'm gonna 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: say it like this to prove my point. All right, disconnect, 289 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: disconnect the throttle position sensor. Turn the key on. Okay, 290 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna have codes. You should have a code for 291 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: what throttle position censor? Right, Okay, clear the code, turn 292 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the key off, turn the key on. Check codes. You 293 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: better have a throttle position censor fold code right because 294 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: it's unplugged. Yes, And the second turn on. But they right. 295 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: But but what I've just shown you and what I've 296 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: just proven, if it works like that, is the vehicle 297 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: is capable of responding correctly to stimulus. It's it didn't 298 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: have a fault. We put a fault in it, we 299 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: cleared the fault, the fault came back because the fault 300 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: was still there. Now, plug the TPS back in and 301 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: go through the same series of of of of testing. 302 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: The TPS fault goes away. All right, If the TPS 303 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: fault goes away, What we've just proven is a your 304 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: scan tool works. Be the computer is capable of setting 305 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: a code and clearing it, and the vehicle gives proper response. 306 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: I have seen cases of Chrysler not clearing fault codes, 307 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: and it's it could be your tool that's not doing 308 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: it properly. Because I've seen some of the aftermarket tools 309 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: get locked into I don't know, it's like they go 310 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: into a loop for lack of a better way to 311 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: put it, where it'll just continue to have that fault. 312 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: If fuel trims are normal, If fuel trims are normal, 313 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: if the vehicle is running normal, if it's not turning 314 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: on a check engine light, and you can prove that 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle will turn on a check engine light if 316 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: it sees a fault. I think you're seeing a false code. 317 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would be overlooking. I don't 318 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: know that I would be overly concerned about it. But 319 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: you've got to prove it. You just can't ignore it, alright, Okay, 320 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: Well I also want to see I don't want to 321 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: just judge it by the seat of my pants. I 322 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: want to judge it electronically. I want to look at 323 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: that a stream on a scan tool. Does it really 324 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: run as good as I think? It runs? To N 325 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: or two zero nine six sets. What the computer does 326 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: is it takes short term fuel trim, long term fuel trim. 327 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: It multiplies in purge valve operation purge valves when they 328 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: want to clean out the charcoal canister, fumes from the 329 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: gas tank, that type of thing. And there they see 330 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: a certain value under thirties in thirty seconds for two 331 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: cycles of the key two trips. If they see it 332 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: running lower than they expected to, they set at two 333 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: zero nine six. All right, but one and it could 334 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: be on one bank sure most common beyond and the other. 335 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, we could do some other things. You 336 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: could test the O two sensors. Put put your scan 337 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: tool on data stream. Look at the O two is 338 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: create a vacuum leak? Where does the signal go? Shoot 339 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: some propane down the throat of the motor. Where does 340 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the signal go? Show the sweep range of the sensors 341 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: high and low. And then you know, last but not least, 342 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: if you try and clear out the fault, does it 343 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: go out? You got some more testing to do, Roman, 344 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: You're not done yet. Keep going, brother, and call me 345 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: back next week. Let me know where you are. We 346 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: can talk further on on any of the car doctor. 347 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Welcome back on any 348 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: of the art Docullet's go over and talk to Winnie 349 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: in New York City. O seven Honda Chord. Winnie, how 350 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: can I help? I have, yeah, two thousand seven Honda Court, 351 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: and I wanted to be able to get a portable 352 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: car battery. I did buy one, and then I was 353 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: told that it wasn't really strong enough for my car. 354 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: So I need to know what the m A H. 355 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: What can I get for my size car plus be 356 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: able to charge let's say range Rover. So you know 357 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: the battery jump pack that I've had that. I've had 358 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: personal success with that. I've used. I own two of 359 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: them ones in one of the daughter's cars, so you know, 360 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: you can tell how much I trust it, right if 361 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: I'm letting my daughter drive around with It is from 362 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: a company called micro Start. I used the Microstart XP ten. 363 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Uh it does. It's called micro Start XP ten, available 364 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: on Amazon. I think they're under two hundred bucks or 365 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: some point price point in the market. Um. The nice 366 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: thing about it is I've used it on everything right 367 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: up to and including a Big eight trucks. Supposedly it 368 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: will jump start diesels, I believe to um, but I've 369 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: never had that experience with this particular one. But it 370 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: can also charge cell phones laptops so if the power 371 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: ever goes out there's ever a power shortage, and it's 372 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: got a real neat little flashlight built into it if 373 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: you're stuck on the side of the road as an 374 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: emergency device. So it's it's it's really a great little 375 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 1: unit and it's small. I actually carry I actually carry 376 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: my micro Start my XP ten around in my little 377 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: man bag as my girl kid me. Uh, you know, 378 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: dad's got a man purse. And um, it's it's sort 379 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: of my you know, my emergency go bag that I've 380 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: got to jump start, a Swiss army knife, a roll 381 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: of electrical tape and a few other odds and ends, 382 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: you know, to fix everything on the road. So that 383 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: works really well. One of the concerns with jump packs 384 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: for you and everybody else's information is you always have 385 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: to look is it approved by the vehicle manufacturers and 386 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: doesn't have correct and good electronics and it meaning there 387 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: are a lot of cheaper jump packs out in the 388 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: marketplace ACE, but there have been cases where poorly designed 389 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: jump packs. You have to think about what you're jump 390 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: starting right. Twenty years ago it wasn't as important, but 391 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: nowadays vehicles are just big rolling computers and you've got 392 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: to be sure that the jump pack when used and 393 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: isn't going to hurt the electronics on that vehicle. And 394 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: there there's issues with certain jump packs doing that, so 395 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: you always want to make sure of that. So, um, 396 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: you know it just as a concern. That's all I 397 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: need to know. On Amazon micro Start six, micro Start 398 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 1: XP ten, what I would tell you to do is 399 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: just Google search micro start XP ten and the company's 400 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: website will come up and you can read to your 401 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: heart's content. It's good, clean, simple language, and you can 402 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: make a choice from there from you know, I've I've 403 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: had mine. I've had my jump pack when he probably three, 404 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: maybe four years maybe longer. Time flies when you're having fun. 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: So I'm sure they've had an upgrade. I'm sure they've 406 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: come out with something newer, better, faster, et cetera. But um, 407 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: I know someone personally they just brought an XP ten 408 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: within the last year, So I know the model is 409 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: still there and it still seems to be no issues. 410 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: It works well, they're very happy with it. Okay, if 411 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: your daughters, Yeah, it's you know, it's it's easy to use, 412 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: it's it's you're gonna look at it and it kind 413 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: of becomes, um, a conversation for at a at a party, right, 414 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: you pull this thing out of your person. They go, 415 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: that's going to start a car, and you go, yeah, 416 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: you know it's. Uh, it's it's a little bigger than 417 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: the size of a large cell phone, and you know, 418 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: it's it's not this big bulky thing anymore. It's just 419 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: kind of neat. You can actually put it in the 420 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: bottom of a woman's pocketbook or purse if it's a 421 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: fairly large sone like I know my wife's is pretty 422 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: much she's not listening and she know Tom wors Um, 423 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: Uh you know, but you you get the idea, you'll 424 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: be fine, all right. Can I ask you one of 425 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the little questions about you know, you know the newer 426 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: cars they have the life that are on during the day, right, 427 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: the d r ls? Can you turn those off? Certain models? 428 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: And some some you can some it's you know these 429 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: certain models were turned off? Um, but why would you 430 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: want to let me ask you that question? Oh? Well, no, 431 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: you're not good. No, no, you're not gonna it's you 432 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: know what I actually and this is a personal preference. 433 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you. I feel vulnerable in a 434 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: vehicle without the lights on. And and I always think, 435 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: you know, the older you get, right, I don't want 436 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: to I don't want to die and go to heaven 437 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: with the liver room furniture wrapped up in plastic that 438 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: nobody could sit on. All right, I want to make 439 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: sure I've used everything, all right. I keep telling my 440 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: kids you better get busy, because I'm not leaving you anything. 441 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm spending it all. I'm having a good time, so uh, 442 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, what leave the headlights on, make sure you're 443 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: more visible. Be here until you're ninety nine and and 444 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: and don't worry about it, all right, kiddo. Okay, thank 445 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: you so much. You're very welcome. YouTube. Bye bye. Let's 446 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: go over to Jack, Wisconsin with a ninety nine Blazer 447 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: and some questions. Jack, welcome a board, sir, How can 448 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: I help? Yeah, I'm replacing the head gas get Uh, 449 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: it's a farm vehicle and it only goes from farm 450 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: to farm. It's all rusted out and stuff, and I 451 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: don't want to put a lot of money into it, 452 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: so I said, well, I'm just gonna put a cheap 453 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: head gasket kit in it because it was leaking between 454 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: cylinders one and three and water was of course running 455 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: out of it. Um and but some of that, I say, 456 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: you should replace the head bolts with it um is 457 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: that always needed? The head bolts look good when they 458 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: came out. Um. But you know, I've had worked on 459 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: big engines. We never we placed head bolts before, so 460 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: they were damaged. The the you know, the ideology here 461 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: becomes you know, there's two ways to look at it. Yeah, headbolts. 462 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: Head bolt replacement is not incorrect however, okay, and there's 463 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: always a however. You know, we we just did the 464 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: engine in Danny seventy is Camaro and my mechanic, and 465 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: when we did it, I had this conversation with him. 466 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: He said, Hey, we're not changing the head bolts and 467 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: I said no, And he said why not? And I said, 468 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: because these bolts in night are probably a whole lot 469 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: better than anything made today forty years later. Uh. And 470 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: you know you've got to have that argument in your head. 471 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 1: You've got to say, you know, at least I know 472 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 1: these head bolts were field tested, right, they worked on 473 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: this car up until this point, and for how you're 474 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: using it and what you're using, you'll probably be just fine, 475 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, because you're not gonna be able to buy 476 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: headbolts from GM. Now, if you could buy headbolts from GM, 477 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: maybe that's a little bit of a different conversation. If 478 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: it was a hundred bucks for a set of head 479 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: bolts from GM. Yeah, okay, I'll go do that. What 480 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Go down to the down to 481 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: the local dal parts store and they're gonna pick him 482 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: up from China. And then what's what's what's the quality? 483 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: And that's what's the quality of that part. I have 484 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: no faith in it. So I think what you do 485 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: is clean up the bolts you got. Now, I would 486 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: hand wire brush your bolts. If there's any sealer on 487 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: the threads, I wouldn't wire or wheel them. Wire wheeling 488 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: will be a little harsh on the thread and beat 489 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: it up, and you can pean the thread and weaken it. 490 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: So I would just hand clean the bolts. I would, 491 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 1: you know, lay the bolts in some solvent, let them 492 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: sit there while you're doing the rest of the work 493 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: to it, and then that'll soften up whatever cruds on 494 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: the threads, and then you know, just hand wire brush 495 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 1: them and I think you'll be fine. It's what I 496 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: would do. The one thing they do. They don't want 497 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: to use a wire I mean a scumping pad, even 498 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: on the blocker because no, no, no, nope, nope. UM 499 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: just clean. He was cleaning solvents, and I would just 500 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: clean it. I would check it with a straight edge. 501 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: I would, you know, look for the obvious flaws. And 502 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: you know the problem is, how can I say this 503 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: delicately without insulting my industry. The problem is the guy 504 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: that invented those little round Scotch pads. I didn't realize 505 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: that some guys were gonna try and be a machinist 506 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: with him. You know, I can take you know, I can. 507 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: I can. I've got the I can do the machine work. 508 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: And and that's the problem over zealousness. I would clean 509 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: the block. I would clean the deck real good with 510 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: a razor blade and some solvent. I would put a 511 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: straight edge on it. I would give it a good 512 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: physical exam. There's no reason that I'm aware of to 513 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: clean the block the deck, I should say, with with 514 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: with scotch pads, I'm using probably using a brand name, 515 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: but those little round disks of any magnitude. And as 516 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: far as the heads, are you gonna send the heads 517 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: out and get them checked for square cleanliness guides are 518 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: You're just gonna swap head gas gets and be done. 519 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: We're just gonna swap head gas gets and be done. 520 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: There's no shop in the local area here, so we 521 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: have to send them three hours away. Well, you know, 522 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: do you have the ability to take the valve springs off? Yes? Okay, 523 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: so why don't you do this? Um, if you have 524 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: the ability to take a valve spring off, why don't 525 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: you pick a valvet random maybe take the ones where 526 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: the head gasket we're blown, pull the springs off. You can, 527 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 1: you know, do a very simple if you have, If 528 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: you've got a dial indicator, I'm sure you do. If not, 529 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: it's a reason to go buy work and you know, 530 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 1: measure measure valci properly. You can get that speck out 531 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: of a service manual and you you can measure are 532 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: the guide's worn. And the only reason I say, just 533 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: at least check it. It's a lot of work, even 534 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: on a nine to do head guess it's it's not 535 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: that simple. And at least listen if if the if 536 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: the guides are worn, you know what, if you have to, 537 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: you have to, You'll take the three hour ride and 538 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: send the heads out. It's sure gonna beat. It's sure 539 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: gonna beat having to redo this in a year. And 540 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: I realize it's a farm vehicle and we're trying to 541 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: save money. But you know, we always find the money 542 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: in the time to do it right the second time 543 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: after we tried to do it cheap the first time. 544 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Right fair point, you know, unless we're trying to get 545 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: away from the wife and kids and hang out in 546 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: the garage more. That's a whole other conversation therapy. I 547 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: can't do. It's the wrong day of the week. All right, 548 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: good good luck to you, Jack, thanks for calling here. 549 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: You're welcome five zero zero. Well it's the truth, isn't it. 550 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Zero The car doctors coming back right after this welcome back. 551 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: I want to name of the car doctor. By the way, 552 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: I want to point out that, Um, Christmas this year, 553 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: we're already thinking about Christmas. You know, we're six weeks 554 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: to New Year's and years is over at this point. Um, 555 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: don't want to hear it. Yeah, Tom, I'm telling you 556 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: we're six weeks to Christmas. I can't pull our New Year's. 557 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. Um, Christmas is a Friday this year. Correct. 558 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: And you know, Tom, I'm putting in my papers now 559 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: because I think I have to leave. Um there's someplace 560 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go, and I can't tell you 561 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: where because it's a secret. So we know where, we 562 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: know where you're going. And it's cold, Yeah, it's cold, 563 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: so you know. Otherwise he doesn't get around, and he's 564 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: asked me back again to work on the sleigh once again, 565 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: and especially this year, there's so much pressure on them 566 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: now to bring happiness to everybody. So on that note, 567 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: not to get into that. Um. On that note, Tom, 568 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: we should generate. I want to generate a fresh show. 569 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: So you know what, one of these weekends, we're gonna 570 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: stick around late or maybe we'll do a show one 571 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: night during the week and put a fresh show up 572 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: on air. So if you could gather calls if anybody 573 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: out there has some questions they want to answer that 574 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: they're not around on the weekend and they want to 575 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: do it one week night, Tom fair way to say it. 576 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: Sure we can, Um, you know, we can put together 577 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: a We can put together a can show and you 578 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: guys will never know the difference. We just don't want 579 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: to run the best of We want to give you 580 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: fresh information each and every time we do this. And 581 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: to do that, if they can just give us a 582 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: call at our regular number at eight five five zero 583 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: zero and just leave a message and say, hey, look, 584 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: we'd like to be part of the Christmas show. We 585 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: will get back to you. We'll let you know what 586 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: what evening and we'll just get you. We'll get you 587 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: on and we'll make it happen. And then you can 588 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: tell everybody listen, and you'll be a radio now. Now 589 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: New Years We're gonna be here, of course we are. 590 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: What's New Year's It's listen. The only thing I want 591 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: to do this New Year's is I'm staying up till 592 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: midnight on New Year's Eve. I just want to make 593 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: sure this year goes. So I want to make sure 594 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't get stuck. I'm gonna I'm gonna be sitting 595 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,719 Speaker 1: there with a little baby sledgehammer, give it up right 596 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 1: on the calendar head so I can just like kind 597 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: of shove it back and get into because it's got 598 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: to be better than I usually fall asleep by at 599 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: ten o'clock on New Year's Eve. So it's like, you know, 600 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: Mr Excitement, So you know I'll be around. So yeah, 601 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: So I just I just I just a little bit 602 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: of housekeeping, folks. We uh we thank you for that. 603 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: So um, if that's okay with you, tom Um, we 604 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: are going to we're trying to reach out. We're trying 605 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: to find Michael Mueller, uh, the Miller Mueller Um, the 606 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: author of the Complete Book of Corvette tom I'm trying 607 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: to get him on the air for the show after Thanksgiving. 608 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: That's Saturday, no, next week. Actually, we're trying to do 609 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: it right. We're trying to get him on next week 610 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: and then we want to give away the complete book 611 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: of Corvette this Saturday after Thanksgiving is a little pre 612 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: holiday gift for everybody. Um uh, so we've for the 613 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: for the car enthusiast on your list, We have the gift, 614 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: we'd like to give it to you. And also, and 615 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much away, but I've 616 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: spoken to my friend, doctor Richard McCann out in England. 617 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Doctor the doctor has written um some books on automobiles 618 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: and classics. We've talked about it before here on the show. 619 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: We're getting a couple of copies of those time. I 620 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: haven't even told you that yet. Here's the official meeting 621 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be giving that away sometime in December. 622 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: We're trying to come up with things, you know, for 623 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: the automotive person in your life that uh, you know, 624 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: do some gift giving. Let's uh, let's start the years 625 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: and wouldn't think of right exactly, just so we're kind 626 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: of looking high and low and to see what we 627 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: come up with so everybody can be aware of that. 628 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: All right, let's pull over and take a pause, Tom, 629 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: and let's go into the last the last pause, and 630 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: then we come back and want to talk real quick 631 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: about O B D two trips and monitors, exciting stuff 632 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: and u um, and then we'll call it a day 633 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: and we're on a naming the car Doctor. We'll be 634 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: back right after this. What this car is automatic, it's systematic, 635 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: it's hard, dramatic. What's breest lightning? Welcome back the Doctor, Tom. 636 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: I want you to know that every time you use 637 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: that Elvis Presley um out taker and take, is that 638 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: is your bumper music. I want you to know I'm standing. 639 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm standing up in studio air guitar ring because I 640 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: just love that song. That's just great. So I just 641 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: I just want you to We're gonna have to get 642 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,959 Speaker 1: you some new air guitar strings from Christmas again this year. 643 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: I just want you to have that imagery. So I 644 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: just want you to know that. Now I want to 645 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: talk about O B D two real quick. One of 646 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: the things we're always talking about here is you help 647 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: me talk about You'll hear me talk about one and 648 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: two trips, A one trip fault versus a two trip fault. 649 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: What does it take to turn on a check insine light. 650 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: And it's also it's basically about you know, you feel 651 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: bad on Monday, You've got a head cold, you've got 652 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: aches and pains, your joints start to hurt. Tuesday, you're 653 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: feeling nauseous. Wednesday, you've got a running nose, You're sick, 654 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: you're you're you've got a fever. You're not going to 655 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: work or school. Your check engine light came on. That's 656 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: a two trip fault. It took two days or two 657 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: cycles of the key or two specific trip whatever the 658 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: manufacturer calls a driving cycle, what speeds, what distance, what 659 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: engine load to create that fault, because it's always looking 660 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: to see is it being lied to or its sensors 661 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: telling it the proper information to trip faul one trip full. 662 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: You wake up Monday, you feel terrible. By the end 663 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: of the day, you feel worse. You feel worse, more symptoms, 664 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: more warning signs. Boom, you wake up Tuesday, the check 665 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: engine lights on, or you're not getting out of bed. 666 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: One trip fault. It's severity of problem and how bad 667 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: will it make you feel? How fast? If you're an engine, 668 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: if you're a person, same thing. Okay, you've also got 669 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: to be aware of something called calculated values. All right, 670 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: Calculated values will also be confusing when we're talking about 671 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: O B D two and we don't talk about it 672 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: a lot, but you hear me talking like I did 673 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: today where I said to more than a few people 674 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,840 Speaker 1: discussing the idea of unplugged a sensor create a problem. 675 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: What sort of response do you get? All right? Is 676 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: the scan tool telling you the truth? Is the meter 677 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: telling you the truth? What I'm trying to get you 678 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,760 Speaker 1: to think a little outside the boxes. Don't believe everything 679 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: you see. If if you're not getting proper result, don't 680 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: start throwing parts at it. Question the component, question the tool. 681 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: All right, there are tests that you can do. We'll 682 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: talk more about calculated values next week because I know 683 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: we're running out of time, But calculated values you'll have. 684 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: You'll have computers substitute values that will look normal, but 685 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: they're not. And there's ways to diagnose and figure that out. 686 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: And we can talk about that in the future as well. 687 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: Until the next time I'm run a ating the car 688 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: doctor reminding each and every one of you go, mechanics 689 00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, She was tid