WEBVTT - Storme Warren

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<v Speaker 1>Carolam. She's a queen of talking. He was so your man.

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<v Speaker 1>She's only yes. Actually you got the snoop on on

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<v Speaker 1>the on side. No one can do with Clide Caralam, Carola,

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<v Speaker 1>no one can do within Clid Caralai Carola. Hey, y'all,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to Hyper Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby.

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<v Speaker 1>I know music, I know people, and I know the

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<v Speaker 1>questions do you want to ask? So let's get hyper

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<v Speaker 1>heads up. These are adults having adult conversations, so there

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<v Speaker 1>could be adult content. I am so excited about this

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<v Speaker 1>episode because I am interviewing Stormy Warren, who is such

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible host. He is someone I look up to.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned from him. I've been friends with him for

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<v Speaker 1>ten years and he goes the face of G A C.

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<v Speaker 1>He has hosted every event in Nashville. You can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>He's all over the radio. He has his own radio

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<v Speaker 1>show on Sirius XAM. He is such an incredible person,

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<v Speaker 1>such an incredible heart, and it was just such an

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<v Speaker 1>honor to get to interview him. So we talked all

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<v Speaker 1>about how he got to start, why Charlie Daniels is

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<v Speaker 1>so important to him, and how he loves the hug trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Here he is. I love you Stormy. Hello. Hello. Being

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<v Speaker 1>on this end of this, well, you're quite a star,

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<v Speaker 1>so you need to be exposed fully all of the details.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is. It's uncomfortable to be on this side.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. Yeah. I've probably been on this side of

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<v Speaker 1>it maybe two or three times in my entire career.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you serious? And it's really odd because in the situation,

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<v Speaker 1>I know where I'm going and I know I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to lean over, don't look Okay. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to always check this because I've red two interviews and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't record. Yeah. I did that with Jake Oen

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<v Speaker 1>not too long, one of the best interviews I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>done with him, and it didn't record me. He was

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<v Speaker 1>on a time schedule and ran away on me. So wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't record. The thing didn't record. It was that

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<v Speaker 1>did you die? Yeah? And he was like I gotta go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like bye. Was so devastating. Even in this

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<v Speaker 1>huge thing with all the microphones, it was just my

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<v Speaker 1>producer was sitting at this one. We could record from

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<v Speaker 1>this computer or I could record from that computer. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you sound good? Sound good? And we both thought the

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<v Speaker 1>other one was recording. Oh gosh, and so he said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, go ahead and press stop it. She goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I thought you were uh and Jaco's your kidding, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jake, three hours later Jake text week goes, Storm,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna believe this. It happened again to someone

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<v Speaker 1>else because I don't know what it is. What is

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<v Speaker 1>he talking about? It's crazy? What kind of secrets he say?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get out of the squeaky cha, get

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<v Speaker 1>on the squaky chair. Okay, well we just keep talking on,

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<v Speaker 1>just wring to make sure that too. That's better. Oh great, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm where you're hiding anyway. Oh yeah, perfect. I

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<v Speaker 1>can see you look like a statueous goddess. Now, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you. Okay, So I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>off with a little rapid fire. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say a few words and you just free association. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the first day that comes to mind. Don't overthink it,

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Okay, happiness, Joy Okay, that's the same word.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay you said. Okay, so there's no wrong answers. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's try that again. Okay, Joy outside, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an outdoorsman. Yes, nice. What do you like to

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<v Speaker 1>do outdoors? Anything? In fact, I had a production company

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<v Speaker 1>called Surfing Moose because you're a surfer too. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the beach, Cuba diver, scuba diver, Yeah, anything outside. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go hug a tree every now and then. Already

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<v Speaker 1>go nuts. Okay, nice, are you a hippie? I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a hippie. I'm just really in tune with Mother Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>the nature side of things. And when you lose connection

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<v Speaker 1>with that, you your whole mental focus just goes out

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<v Speaker 1>of whack. And I totally reconnect when I get back

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<v Speaker 1>into the woods. And I never realized how much I

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<v Speaker 1>miss it until I go back. How often do you

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<v Speaker 1>go into the woods? Not near enough. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>to make myself do it. And the more I do it,

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<v Speaker 1>the happier I am. So I guess happiness outside. Love it, okay, dream,

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<v Speaker 1>who don't overthink it? Dream? These are good words made

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<v Speaker 1>specific for you. Dream happiness, just to be happy. He

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<v Speaker 1>said that quote when he was in the third grade,

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<v Speaker 1>was it, John Lennon? Yeah? And and she said no. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he said there was a horrible answer, because no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the right answer. So what does happiness look like to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like outdoors, looks like outdoors. It has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with a sense of being called uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to use the word control because that's

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<v Speaker 1>not it, because no one's ever truly in control of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's being adaptable and being able to just roll

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<v Speaker 1>with the flow and just not fight. UM. My biggest

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<v Speaker 1>pet peeve in life are unnecessary obstacles in my path

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<v Speaker 1>and things that are just stupid, like um, an unnecessary

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<v Speaker 1>argument with a coworker or a spouse, or wasted energy

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<v Speaker 1>that is just so avoidable, and yet you get stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in this rut of having to move a boulder that

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<v Speaker 1>the drains you and it's just you see where you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get to. You see the goal, You see

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone, and this stupid thing is in your

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<v Speaker 1>way that has no business being in your way. Completely

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<v Speaker 1>use your energy for only positive positivity. I'm probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most optimistic person you've ever met. Yeah, and they I

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<v Speaker 1>belong to the Optimist Club. In all reality, I used

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<v Speaker 1>to speak at the Optimist Club. And it's real. There's

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<v Speaker 1>an Optimist Yes. Can I come? Yes? Because you're right

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<v Speaker 1>there with me. Really trained myself to be optive. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had to train I wasn't naturally optimists. Really well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I had to develop it. Well, what were you? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why were you so negative? I wasn't necessarily negative. I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't really as positive as you wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize that it was a total choice, and

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<v Speaker 1>that like by choosing positivity always it makes for a

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<v Speaker 1>positive life. I had to develop that. Yeah, and that Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it probably was instilled to me by my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom was the queen of the optimists, and

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<v Speaker 1>my dad was just queen or king of common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So between the two of them it was a good direction,

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<v Speaker 1>like a perfect comba. Well, I I didn't say I

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<v Speaker 1>got at all, but I definitely got the optimist side.

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<v Speaker 1>The common sense thing goes out the window every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then I would pick, I would pick optimists comments.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't understand why people carry such great clouds

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<v Speaker 1>over them, and I don't there's we have it enough

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<v Speaker 1>around us, it's forced upon us enough. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why people just live in this dark space. And even if,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that dark space is part of you, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always ways to bring light into it, and so and

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel part of my job is to bring

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<v Speaker 1>that to other people. Story. You're bringing storms of sunshine,

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<v Speaker 1>storms of sunshine. If I were to put out an album,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the title. But it's it's great And

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<v Speaker 1>because the most satisfying thing is when you connect with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody and you see them turn around, you see them

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad day goes to a better outlook, just

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<v Speaker 1>even the slightest little twitch. And if you can know

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<v Speaker 1>that you are a part of that in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>what better reward is there? So do you use your

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<v Speaker 1>radio show to spread positivity? Yeah, And it's it's I

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<v Speaker 1>love I love connecting. Um, it's it's about the audience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about brightening the audience's day because we're all one big,

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<v Speaker 1>happy family. I never look like we're broadcasting outward to

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. I feel like everybody's in our studio. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like one big living room. And it's a subtle difference

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<v Speaker 1>between a lot of radio shows. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are really proud of what they have to say and

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<v Speaker 1>want to project it outward and just hope that something

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<v Speaker 1>is received. And to me, I get as much coming

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<v Speaker 1>back as we deliver, and so it's it's it's really

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<v Speaker 1>a neat connection. You have always seemed like the happiest guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just a genuine thing, it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have bad days. I and I have them too,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hate being in a bad day. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you're so aware of being positive, don't you know when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a bad day, like, because you can normally

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<v Speaker 1>turn it around, like yeah, it doesn't take long. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes there's just a day that just sucks. It just sucks,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just can't get out of it. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like that, but I can count them on

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<v Speaker 1>about one hand. Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of them. And it's just if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>down for longer than about thirty minutes, I'm I'm pretty pussy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have techniques to turn your day around? Yeah? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's it's to put whatever it is that's sucking

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<v Speaker 1>the energy out of you in a place you can

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it. You're not ignoring it, you're not sweeping.

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<v Speaker 1>I did do that for a while, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad practice. Yeah that if you or it

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<v Speaker 1>just overflows and your pressure cooker and you explode worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was very very good at that for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time and then did you finally just like erupt? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got the eruption. Was there a moment. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all random people. It's it's just unfortunately for those people

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<v Speaker 1>or the situation, it comes out at the wrong time

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes out probably out of ease. It comes

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<v Speaker 1>out it's like a safe zone. It's like, Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>really is gonna matter if I explode here, so blam

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<v Speaker 1>and so whatever whatever takes it is really, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>an event, a person, whatever it's I felt really bad

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<v Speaker 1>when that happened. So I worked really hard to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with stuff and not just shove it under the rug.

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<v Speaker 1>But part of being positive is to put the negativity somewhere. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so where do you put it? Well, now I deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and I just kind of crumple it up

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<v Speaker 1>in little pieces as we go and tribble it out

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<v Speaker 1>instead of just going deal with you later. And the

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<v Speaker 1>boiling over there, it's just you're not looking at it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's amazing. Talk about wasted energy. I wasted a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of energy for a lot of my life shoving

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<v Speaker 1>all this ship in the closet. And then when finally

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<v Speaker 1>it was overflowing, it was too late. And you had

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<v Speaker 1>this big pile of it's like a closet full of

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<v Speaker 1>bowling balls. Eventually, when you opened that door, you get

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<v Speaker 1>this avalanche of bowling balls that you have to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>That you could have dealt with one bowling ball at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, never would have built up. Yeah, are you

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<v Speaker 1>an organized person? No? Not in the slightest. I am

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<v Speaker 1>the least organized person you have ever met. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start to finish her. And I think those

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<v Speaker 1>go hand in hand because I'm not organized. I need

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<v Speaker 1>to begin a project and end the project. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>start multiple projects and then piece me like together. My

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<v Speaker 1>wife is is a genius at that. She remember, she

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<v Speaker 1>must have a good memory. She she's a multitask or

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<v Speaker 1>she could do like nine things at once, and it

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<v Speaker 1>blows my mind. I'm like, but the dishwasher isn't only half?

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<v Speaker 1>Have to get in your what's going on over here?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'll get back to that. She make list? She

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<v Speaker 1>does make list? List or key, I don't make list.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a calendar in my head and I have

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<v Speaker 1>everything that goes on in my head and it's you

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<v Speaker 1>told me something about your calendar too. Yeah, you said

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't look ahead, like, just wake up because

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<v Speaker 1>we hosted National Dame. That's right, I guess two years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're kind of giving tips on hosting, which

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<v Speaker 1>I have filed a lot of his way and use.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, sorry, no, they're great. But you said that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have your calendar, but you just wake up

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever the day has you just go with it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think too far ahead. No, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the excitement of that. I love that it leads

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<v Speaker 1>to a great way to avoid boredom and a routine.

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<v Speaker 1>If you wake up not knowing exactly what the day

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<v Speaker 1>has in store, then it offers so many blessings that

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't expecting. So you sit there and go, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, that's right, I'm going here today, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go whoa, And then you know, people say, so,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing this afternoon? I'm like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, and then you put it together and it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blast that way. So every day is exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>Every day is now there's no If I have more

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<v Speaker 1>than like two or three days where it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>they're almost exactly the same, I start needing to go

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<v Speaker 1>hug a tree. Totally. I totally relate. Okay, Vice, ah

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<v Speaker 1>chewing tobacco, You chew tobacco. Do you have really white teeth? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well you put those big old dips in there. Do No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't spit it out. I do. It's horrible. My

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<v Speaker 1>kids are really my kids. Maybe quit once and then

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<v Speaker 1>I got back into it, and I'm trying again to quit.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels so good in your mouth, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's a great it's like a hot tingling feeling. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's I mean after I've been doing it in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, so it's it's just more habit than anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gotten your lips checked up? Okay? Yeah, they're okay? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but which I hate because I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>than say, you know, you really need to stop because

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<v Speaker 1>this has happening now they go, no, look good, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll keep dipping. You know. It's but probably for my

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<v Speaker 1>kids now because they're really on me. They don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>like to see me do it. I try to not

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<v Speaker 1>hide it from them. They know I do it, but

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<v Speaker 1>rub it in their faces either. So yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good Avice and wine. Oh what kind of white shard. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I might be the only tobacco chewing shardon ay drinker

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<v Speaker 1>you've That's a great contrast. You got like your redneck

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<v Speaker 1>gone up and then you gotphisticated classy. You see me

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<v Speaker 1>with a spit cup and a glass of shardonney. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's very sexy, I'm telling you perfect. Yeah. You

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<v Speaker 1>walk both lines. Yeah, and I definitely do metaphorically and literally.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're going to describe yours, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>a mix between chew tobacco and chardonnay. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely correct. That hugging in the middle, that's okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Um music music, Um, I'm a I'm a rainbow. I really.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's a cliche, but I do listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it all. I mean, I started listening to old school

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<v Speaker 1>country Roy Clark Bucklands. I grew up on Heehaw and

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<v Speaker 1>so and my parents would drag me to these country

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<v Speaker 1>variety shows, Glenn Campbell and Jim Stafford and Tammy Winnette

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and uh Tanny Tucker when she was young. And

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<v Speaker 1>it just Roy Clark lived down the street from me Tulsa. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So Roy Clark would be every Saturday or whatever. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in town. He would be out washing his car

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<v Speaker 1>in his driveway. And he used to ride my bicycle.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say right down the street, it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes away on a bike, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>go down just to watch him wash his car. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you say, Hi, I think I got the nerve once,

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Cluke, you're just kind of breathing the same. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I love tehaw And and it's neat and it

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<v Speaker 1>flashed forward. You know, if you think it and you

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<v Speaker 1>can believe it, it will come. And I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 1>believer in that. And that's and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of proof that that works in my

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<v Speaker 1>life an example, Okay, but I am obsessed with that

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<v Speaker 1>belief and I and it works and and and and

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<v Speaker 1>knowing you for about a decade now, I've seen lots

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<v Speaker 1>of proof in you that it works. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. You're you're a believer in that, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can see that in people, you can feel the energy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a very cosmic thing. But an example. So

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Roy Clark and buck Owens, all I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do was to buck Owens was like my idol. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Charlie Daniels, you're jumping ahead, So, uh, flash forward.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here in Nashville doing my career, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>had yet to interview Buck Owens. So all I kept

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about all my whole career, I wanted to meet

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<v Speaker 1>and get to know Buck Owens. And then we did

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of red carpet interviews, but those are quick

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<v Speaker 1>and it didn't really count. And for years I went

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<v Speaker 1>out to his Crystal Palace for his birthday bash in

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<v Speaker 1>Bakersfield just to be there, and you know, I'd call

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<v Speaker 1>Lorien and Charlie Crook and Chase, we need to go

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<v Speaker 1>cover Buck Owen's birthday party in Bakersfield, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>went every year to do that, I know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>did every year. And finally, shortly before he died, his

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<v Speaker 1>um his manager goes, uh, Storey, do you have a camera,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like why, because Buck wants to do that interview.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, I'm not ready for this interview, because

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<v Speaker 1>well you better be, because you got about a half hour.

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<v Speaker 1>We had your whole life to prepare, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was spontaneous. It went from a really well prepared,

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<v Speaker 1>in depth life assessment to a conversation with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>on towards the end of his life. It was it

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<v Speaker 1>was a much better conversation. And my favorite quote from

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<v Speaker 1>that interview is asked back, I said, are you afraid

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<v Speaker 1>to die? And he goes, Nope, I'm not afraid of dying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid of not being around. And I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was so cool to say that. He's the ultimate fomo.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't life, love life, and he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss anything, and so he was not afraid of dying.

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<v Speaker 1>He was fully at peace with dying, and he knew

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<v Speaker 1>he was dying, but he was really bummed out that

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to miss some stuff. How cool though,

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<v Speaker 1>to give you at the end of your life though,

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<v Speaker 1>and still be loving it so much. God's and he

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<v Speaker 1>had some big setbacks and letdowns and all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but he always found a way to turn it around.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the key. All right, you ready for the

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.560
<v Speaker 1>pendulum theory? Okay, come on, pendulum theory, roll with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So life is like a ticking clock totally. It only

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<v Speaker 1>works when it's swinging back and forth. Right, So if

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<v Speaker 1>it sticks up here, if everything's good all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>time doesn't move. And if it sticks over here. Everything's bad,

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<v Speaker 1>time doesn't move. You gotta swing through both and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only way. But the positivity and the outlook on

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<v Speaker 1>life comes from how you approach the down swing when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not to say you expect it or you

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<v Speaker 1>hope it's coming, it's how you address it when the

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<v Speaker 1>downside does come, and to know that with it will come.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's just the approach you do. I call

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<v Speaker 1>it it just swing through it. Just swing through it,

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<v Speaker 1>and just swing through your arms up there like a

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<v Speaker 1>roller coaster and just like, oh, this is gonna suck,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna suck, but let's go, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you get to those like the lowest parts, you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel it and like I just came out of one,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you know you're in it. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what's coming? You just gotta you just

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<v Speaker 1>gotta swing through it. So many people, though, they get

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in that first one, because once you start doing

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<v Speaker 1>it more, it gets a lot easier. And sure, that's

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<v Speaker 1>it to exercise like anything else, but the first tree

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<v Speaker 1>is stuck in it. You think your life's over. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see you can't see two ft in front

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<v Speaker 1>of your face. Everything's done right, and you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>out of it exactly. So you've got to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on the horizon when it goes with everything

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<v Speaker 1>else we're talking about about just believing in seeing stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that isn't there. Yes, story, you've got it, You've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just getting better at it. I turned thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend. That was one of my favorite birthdays Evertree

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<v Speaker 1>thirty three, thirty three, thirty free. Okay, see this. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't see the southern camera, but the Batman Building is

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<v Speaker 1>right over the camera's shoulder and on the thirty third floor,

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<v Speaker 1>three pm on oh three, oh three, oh three, I

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<v Speaker 1>turned thirty three. Stop it. Yeah, and I did. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did three shots at tequila on the So it

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<v Speaker 1>was the rule of threes. Oh, tell me about your

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<v Speaker 1>thirty third birthday? That was It was just a real

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<v Speaker 1>big fun day of just it was thirty free. A

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<v Speaker 1>good year. Yeah, it was great year. Odd years are

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<v Speaker 1>always fan testic years, they are, Yeah, why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Even ears are odd. Yours are always fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. And odd is odd, Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And odd is odd. Odd, it's unexpected. But all the

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<v Speaker 1>good things in my life have happened on odd years.

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<v Speaker 1>Great and not to say that I've had devastating years

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<v Speaker 1>on even hears, but the memorable moments of all happened

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<v Speaker 1>on odd years. Okay, so you're about to have a

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<v Speaker 1>great seven. I know it's going to be good. Which

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<v Speaker 1>you add them together and there ones and ones are

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<v Speaker 1>really cool. So do you study numbers and stuff? I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like a numerologist, but I've seen trends. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so talk to me about that. Just when things are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, different numbers have different meanings, and not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>like in a definition of a numerology book, this means this.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know when I recognize numbers in a pattern

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<v Speaker 1>that it means something, so like ones are always to

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<v Speaker 1>me say that I'm pointed in the right direction and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily in the way you think. It's just it

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<v Speaker 1>goes with looking beyond that two feet in front of

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<v Speaker 1>your face. You think, oh wow, this is exactly where

0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I need to be. And there literally you know there's

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<v Speaker 1>like seven different other steps you're going to take, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're still on the right path. So do you trust

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<v Speaker 1>in the mystery of it all? Yeah? I got Life's

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery. Isn't do you set kind of goals but

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:17.800
<v Speaker 1>then like you you're working towards something, but then you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of expecting whatever exactly exactly. I a very goal

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<v Speaker 1>oriented person. I think, obviously you've accomplished so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hate when you reach a goal. Okay, tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that because I don't like reaching goal. Do you like

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<v Speaker 1>the journey getting it? Reaching a goal has never been satisfying?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, okay, number one. Because number one, I've

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the journey so much that I immediately am looking

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<v Speaker 1>to set the new goal because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay there. You've got to have something to work and

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing. And it's never what you think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to feel like when you get there. So what does

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<v Speaker 1>it normally feel like? It just feels like another day.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it's okay. It's like if you win

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<v Speaker 1>an award, or you reach a milestone or a new untracked,

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<v Speaker 1>or you interview somebody that you've always wanted to interview.

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<v Speaker 1>By the end of it, you're going, yeah, okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>what's next. Yeah, I'm really bad about appreciating now. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really bad at that. Okay, Because you're always thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing, or looking back, and I've stopped that. Okay,

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.840
<v Speaker 1>looking back is something that takes a way too much

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<v Speaker 1>time too. It's so looking forward is much more beneficial.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm getting better. That's what Going out and hugging

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<v Speaker 1>the tree. Does you appreciate that now you hug the treat? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like you hug it. Absolutely. Do you feel energy from

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<v Speaker 1>the tree? Oh? My gosh. Yes, there's a there's a

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 1>tree called the Lodgepole pine out in the Sierras, and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually smells like maple syrup and so it's got

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<v Speaker 1>real thick bark and when you actually get real close

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<v Speaker 1>to it smells like vanilla maple syrup. And you just

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and just go It's the greatest thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. You totally connect. Yeah, everybody always thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a metaphor. I'm like, no, I go out and

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<v Speaker 1>hug a freaking Okay, I'm gonna actually try you should

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<v Speaker 1>you and you're gonna go, wow, that's pretty good. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a certain treat? Uh? Any tree, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as it's connected to the ground in the earthen. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you started off at sixteen, you move from Tolta

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<v Speaker 1>to California and you worked at l A. In l

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<v Speaker 1>A's Pirate Radio. I thought that was just a movie.

0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize it was a real thing. The Pirate

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<v Speaker 1>Radio is based on the old pirate radio stations that

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<v Speaker 1>were off the FCC grid back in the seventies and

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<v Speaker 1>they broadcast in the in the shores of New York

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<v Speaker 1>and off Long Island and some off the coast to California,

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<v Speaker 1>but not many phrase radio. And you had a quote

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<v Speaker 1>though that I have to say, you said this had

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest impact on your career because you learned how

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with the egos, liars, corporate bs, and the

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<v Speaker 1>pitfalls of celebrity. All is a p on who rarely

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<v Speaker 1>got airtime and it was it was spectacular. So talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me about that, like, what are the pitfalls the celebrities,

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<v Speaker 1>What did you learn about egos and how did you

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<v Speaker 1>get involved with this details. Along with being a positive person,

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<v Speaker 1>what goes along with that as a companion is idealism,

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<v Speaker 1>where I have just have an idealistic view of how

0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 1>things should be and oftentimes it's not that way. So

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<v Speaker 1>my first experience with radio was with a fantastic program

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<v Speaker 1>director in Tulsa named mel Myers who gave a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old kid a shot and he shouldn't have done that,

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but he did because he saw something. Yeah, because someone

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.919
<v Speaker 1>gave him a shot at around the same age you

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it. Took a field trip to a

0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>radio station in seventh grade and it was love instantly,

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>like pulling the curtain back on OZ. Did you want

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to be behind the absolutely, because you did a lot

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of other things before you got to the microphone, which

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:30.199
<v Speaker 1>we were like a broadcast assistant, even a cameraman, stage man,

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>assistant technical director, and a segment producer, all before you

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<v Speaker 1>really got your big break behind the microphone and camera. Right. Yeah,

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that's one of the greatest gifts was having to experience

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<v Speaker 1>at all, because it gives you appreciation for every part

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of the business. And from focusing a camera like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it all. I'm not doing a great job with

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the camera. It's very automatic, but it's it really is.

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.199
<v Speaker 1>It teaches you to appreciate all aspects of it and

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.359
<v Speaker 1>because of that, you do your job better behind a

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>microphone if you know everything that's going into it. So

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you got your and this guy obviously yeah, he um,

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>he gave me a shot. He would critique my stupid

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.399
<v Speaker 1>little air checks that I would do. Yeah, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't for weeks and weeks, and I got so depressed.

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I would make these little practice tapes back on reel

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 1>to reel, and I would set them on his desk.

0:24:21.160 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And when I set him on his desk, I expected

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<v Speaker 1>a response, and none came. But each week, when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going on weekends, I would make a new tape and

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<v Speaker 1>put it on his desk. And then finally one came

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<v Speaker 1>back with a two page handwritten note with critiques, and

0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:36.200
<v Speaker 1>he ripped me to shreds, just tore me up, basically saying,

0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>what the heck do you think you're doing. You're horrible

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>at this, you know, but try again next week and

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:43.360
<v Speaker 1>see if you follow these simple tips. And so I did,

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<v Speaker 1>and the next week another critique came. The next week,

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 1>another critiquet, and shorter and shorter, and work on this.

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You're still doing this. And finally, about six months later,

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>because I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm giving

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>you your own weekend show. Those a fourteen. But he

0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>also realized you wanted it, you know. Yeah, one has

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of initiative. I would go after football practice,

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.760
<v Speaker 1>still in my pads, and ride my bicycle to the

0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>radio station and right after the football practice and just

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 1>go camp out like a stray dog. You just wanted

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.119
<v Speaker 1>to be in there. And when I moved to l A,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I went took like ninety steps backwards because my guru

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>and my my guide didn't travel with me. Yeah, And

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:26.040
<v Speaker 1>so I was there in Finta, California, going but I

0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:29.160
<v Speaker 1>had my own show, we Don't Care, We Don't Care.

0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Guess what, go back and answer

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>phone phone lines. Age got to start back open. So

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you kind of made it. You made your way up

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.760
<v Speaker 1>in Ventura, and then you moved to Hollywood, and no

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.480
<v Speaker 1>one gave two rats, no no. So I knocked on

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the door of Pirate Radio and said, please can I

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>come in. I'm like, yeah, you can answer request lines again,

0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. But that's where I learned. Scott Shannon got

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>up sweating. I know exactly. Um So Scott Shannon, who

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to me is one of the most powerful and greatest

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 1>examples of hustle in all of radio. He was running

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>that channel and he was scary. He was intimidating. He

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>was not just no no bs, no fluff, this was corporate,

0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this was high pressure radio, which I'd never see. Yeah,

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean a syllable delivered the wrong way. What? Yes,

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 1>he critique you're talking everything? Talking voice is important. My

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:26.800
<v Speaker 1>voice is too high pitched, but I can't get it lower.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:31.439
<v Speaker 1>It's all right. Didn't embrace what you have? It's great.

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>So how did he do the because people can see

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>through that. By the way, if you're trying too hard

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to hide who your real voice is, then people can

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.359
<v Speaker 1>see right through that. How did he So? How would

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>he critique syllables? Does that take away the heart? Yeah? Yeah?

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 1>But he also taught you how to be really good

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>and which obviously didn't stick. But um, And I was

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 1>just kind of a peripheral player at Pirate Radio. I

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a Whitney Allen. I mean Whitney Allen whose country DJ.

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Now she was in the crosshairs of Scott Shannon's focus.

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.919
<v Speaker 1>And I watched the DJs go through this, and there

0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 1>was a big WATCHUSI Batman Gomez and Cadillac Jack and

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>all these guys that I just really looked up to

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and watched how they dealt and sometimes didn't deal real

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 1>well with the critique and the bulls eye and the

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 1>focus and the energy, and I learned a lot from

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>that and that's what kind of go with the flow

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.320
<v Speaker 1>mentality and adapt don't take things too personally, don't it

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Never take anything person It's not about you. It's about

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the product, and it's there just one a better product.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>So what did you What tips did you take from Mel?

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>And what tips did you take from Shannon? Because it

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you have two different two different ones. Mel.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Mel taught me to not play by the rules, Scott,

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Shannon said, but you gotta play by the rules. Okay,

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>that's so interesting Scott. Scott had an illusion and he

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>wanted from his people too. He goes make it look

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like it's completely chaotic, but it has behind the scenes,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it has to be completely buttoned up. It's gottl to

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>be just perfection chaos. So how do you get perfection?

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>You plan it out so your chaos looks like it's

0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>absolutely spontaneous, when actually you've spent a lot of time

0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>planning out your chaos. So what would be planned chaos?

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Just like they launched the whole radio station, like they

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 1>were on a barge off of the shore of Catalina

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Island and they who this is pirate Radio? Is this on?

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Of course it was on. They were out of the

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>multimillion dollar studio in downtown l A. But they made

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 1>it appear like they're just this ramshackle group of misfits

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>starting exactly and it was just theater of the mind.

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>So I learned that from Scott. There's a lot of

0:28:38.080 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you still apply that into your life now. I do, not,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.840
<v Speaker 1>not as much because I'm not one of those guys.

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not much to the chagrin and my boss and

0:28:44.280 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>and bosses over the years. I don't want to be

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>anybody else but me, and I can't be and I'm

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>not comfortable if I'm trying to be someone else, and

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if it looks planned or faked, I feel it and

0:28:56.480 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel right about it. And it's about I

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>say that I don't appreciate the moment, but I live

0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 1>in the moment as far as what I do for

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a job, I don't do appreciate the moment when the

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>electricity of it, yes, the electricity of the unknown, until

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you open up that mic and go, well, this is

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>going to either hurt or it's going to be really good. Yea.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>And most of the time it really hurts you. You

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you probably gravitate more with a yeah, absolutely because it

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was the first impression. But absolutely totally. And he came

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>by to Nashville not too long ago swinging through, just

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>on a cross country tour and we hadn't seen each

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>other and proud. Yeah, it's like it's close to thirty years,

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And he's a huge influence in your life. Massive.

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Without him, I would be not doing anything like this.

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy how one person and I changed your

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>whole life. You have idols, you have people you look

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>up to um and they're so important to all of us.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>And I really think that I'm a big believer mentors,

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and we all are in doing something in our life

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>because someone inspired us to do it. And I've I've

0:29:58.640 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>talked to some people and I have friends say I

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have those people. I just do my own thing.

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, well, you're lying to yourself because someone pointed

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>you in that direction. Whether it was your father, whether

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>your mother, whether it was best friend, a teacher, a coach,

0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody padded you along the way or affected you in

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a negative way that you're trying to overcome. Absolutely, some

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.880
<v Speaker 1>mentor can be a a reverse energy too. That's crazy. Okay,

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>So you go through all of this training camp, you

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>got your first big break when you how did you

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.400
<v Speaker 1>meet up with Jim Owens and tell me about what

0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>goes back to the country roots. I was in l A.

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>This is interesting. Um, I was in l A working

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>for CNN and Pirate Radio and going to school at

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the same time. So CNN Entertainment or was it like

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.479
<v Speaker 1>it was entertainment Showbiz Today Today and which became Showbiz

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Tonight later, but Showbis Today Belashaw and Lauren Sidney and

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of huge. Great your first one, right, Well, I

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was working on the technical side at first and then

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>work way with becoming a segment producer. And the only

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>way I could do that is by going out and

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>doing a story, just like you doing these podcasts. This

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>is actually what they instructed me to do. They said,

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>go find a subject, We'll give you a cameraman and

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:07.760
<v Speaker 1>an editor, and if we like the story, we're going

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 1>to air it and give you a chance to do

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>another one. And if you like that one, we'll do

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>you will work you on a freelance basis. And then

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that worked so and my first one was the first

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 1>album I ever bought was Charlie Daniels. I know, I

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:22.040
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to you about that because he's like

0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>super influential in your life. Yeah. In fact, I gave

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>a speech at a Lifetime Achievement award for him. Um,

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I was the surprise speaker for Charlie, and which was

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest honors. No, it's so cool, um,

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 1>But the whole, the whole lying in the speech was

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>throughout my whole life, there's always been Charlie Daniels, from

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>the very first album I bought, to every milestone in

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>my career, there's always been Charlie Daniel. Which he to

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 1>your life, Yeah, yeah, I mean stories. He's the ultimate

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>storyteller here, the ultimate host of course, you like he

0:31:57.600 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I could lose myself in his music. I was movies

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>would start playing in my head when you'd pop pop

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 1>on Charlie Daniels record and yeah, so he took me

0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>places imagination and everything. It's just always characters that would

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>pop up in his music. And I just thought he

0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>was a character bigger than life. The big hat, the beer,

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the fiddle, I mean, he was just a it was

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>like a superhero almost, And so I figured if I'm

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>going to get one shot at interviewing somebody. Why not

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 1>interview my childhood idol? And still was my idol? And

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>so you think that you're gonna be able to walk

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 1>him down. No, no, In fact, I didn't even know

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>how to reach him. But that was part of the test.

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 1>It was like this. There was a phone number on

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.479
<v Speaker 1>the back of one of his albums to his management company,

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Is that Easy? In Mount Juliet, Tennessee, And so I

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 1>called and talked to Paul Zygis, who has been his

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:52.120
<v Speaker 1>publicist for forty plus years still, and she goes, oh, CNN, yeah, yeah,

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>we'd love to talk to see it in. Yes i am, why, Yes,

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I am? I am with sing in thank you for

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>noticing it. Um. So it's about there's funny stories. Um.

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But it went to the Crazy Horse in Santa Santa Anna, California.

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Fred Riser, amazing guy, Great country dance Hall in Santa Anna,

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and there I interviewed Charlie Daniels for the very first time.

0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I was walked up onto his bus. He wasn't on

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the bus yet, and then the door opened and I

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.000
<v Speaker 1>saw the hat come in first, and then the beard,

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and then he hell Son and just bellowing, and I

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>just would and it was the world's worst interview, Like say,

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you're Charlie Daniels, Okay, you ready, here's my so Charlie,

0:33:42.600 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you play a really good fiddle, right. But he would

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>answer the questions like Dan rather was asking the most

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 1>in or like you would be asking these questions very

0:33:56.200 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 1>very thoughtful, very thought out. But I was asking the

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>worst questions you could possibly ever asked. And he answered them,

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>giving me what he needed and what I needed, just

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<v Speaker 1>a pro So he put a smile on his face everything.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.799
<v Speaker 1>So a year later he comes back through l A

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and I get him back on CNN, and he was appreciative,

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and this time he goes, son, let's take a walk, right, Okay, okay,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>So we walked into the break room and he puts

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>his arm around me and he goes looking over the

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>skyline of l A. And he goes, Son, I've seen

0:34:29.200 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>this town chew people up and spit him out because

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>coming here for forty years, he goes, this town does

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>not need you, he goes, and you don't need this

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>town because it's unnecessary. Nashville needs you. Come to Nashville.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>And I said, oh my god, But that's like Oz.

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's like the Emerald City that he could

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 1>have never said that. And this is this is in

0:34:52.440 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the break room of CNN with his arm around over

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>my shoulder and he goes, if you need any help

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>getting to Nashville, let me know, and I' okay. So

0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I took that as a huge sign. And Crook and

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Chase I watched them after school. I would come after

0:35:07.120 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 1>college classes. I would raise home and watch Ralph Emery

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and on Nashville Now in the Crook and Chase Show.

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 1>And I was obsessed because it was country music, it

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 1>was entertainment news, and it was in this magical town

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>called Nashville, which didn't really even exist in my head,

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>just like so many other things in my life, like

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>just these goals and dreams and magical places that you know,

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>just kind of existed in its own little private universe.

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 1>So to no, it wasn't. But I packed up my

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>truck two weeks later and drove out. Did you have

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a job, called Crook and Chase. I said, I'm coming out.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Can you give me in a freelance work? I work

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.279
<v Speaker 1>at CNN And they went, you didn't know them either.

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>You just call a call is that crazy? And they

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.160
<v Speaker 1>were stupid enough to give me a freelance job out here.

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>You started working in the Crook and Chase you group,

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 1>idolizing after Charlie Daniels told you to move to Nashville.

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:55.640
<v Speaker 1>After Mel Myers when I was thirteen years old, game

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you shot on radio? Can you believe? Yeah, anybody who

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 1>says they do this on their own is lying. But

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you also have been brave you do. I mean, there's

0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff that you can do yourself to

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>make it, but you have to see the signs and

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 1>see the steps. You know, in Indiana Jones when he's

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.799
<v Speaker 1>walking along the path with the rocks and they fall through,

0:36:12.080 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>it's knowing which rocks to step on and and to

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:16.720
<v Speaker 1>find the right path. Have you learned to really trust

0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>your intuition? Yeah? Yeah, I mean I think that's a

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>huge valuable tool. And the most hysterical thing about life

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.440
<v Speaker 1>is we all do it even though your intuition and

0:36:26.520 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>says walk one way, You'll take another turn and then

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.480
<v Speaker 1>get hit smack in the nose and go you know

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.479
<v Speaker 1>better than that. It's like you knew better than that?

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? You're an idiot? And but you

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>have only yourself to blame in that because inside you

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>knew the right way. It's true. Sometimes it takes just

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:49.319
<v Speaker 1>a little longer for others to learn to trust their intuition. Yeah, yeah,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>and it's true, but it's really accurate. Realized now the

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>times I haven't trusted my intuition and things have been

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>so hard. Oh, it wasn't supposed to be. If you

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing, good things are going to happen.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>It's and it's a really hard lesson to learn. And

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>if you follow your passion, it's going to work out

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:07.280
<v Speaker 1>because you're put here on earth to do your passion,

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.120
<v Speaker 1>so you're going to end up somewhere you're supposing. It's

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 1>acknowledging what that passion is. Sometimes you have figured it out. Yeah,

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you miss it completely. And yeah, sometimes people are

0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>too scared to dig it up. That's it. And and

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>or you just think you you've talked yourself into thinking

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 1>one direction as your passion, when you realize it's always

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>been over here. You always know your passion. I feel

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:29.759
<v Speaker 1>like that is the luckiest thing. I've interviewed a lot

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 1>of people, because a lot of artists and a lot

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>of creatives, and so many of them have known their

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>passion from the beginning. Yeah, that's such a blessing. I

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know what what comes where that comes from. But

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean I listened to a radio underneath my pillow.

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, I have that quote you said from

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 1>an early age. I was a radio junkie. Many long

0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.760
<v Speaker 1>nights as a kid, spent with my head pressed against

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the speaker of my radio clock, just waiting here at

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:54.319
<v Speaker 1>the dud to say, I always love the magic of radio. Yeah,

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely true. Literally with your head against the radio,

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and I would suffer through the music to get to

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the guy talking talk. Yeah, I just because whatever was

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 1>coming out of his mouth meant something important, and so

0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to hear what it was, whether it was news, weather,

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.719
<v Speaker 1>information about the artist. I just heard something about my community.

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>It's something magical was going to be said that I

0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>was going to he He was my friend and the speaker,

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, Yes, he was my friend and the speaker.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.479
<v Speaker 1>And I learned, you know, great music that way too.

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'd stay up to two three in the

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>morning just waiting to hear the Gambler and roll on

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>eighteen wheeler from Alabama and Kenny Rodgerson and then it

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, cool. If I heard one of those

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>two songs, I could go to bed and then and

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 1>listened to the guy in between, you know, kind of

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.839
<v Speaker 1>just getting through them about that, it's I don't know

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is what it is, but it just has

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 1>always been there since I was a kid. It's just

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the magic of music and radio and and and the

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 1>whole combination of it all, and music really is the

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>root of it. I'm brushing by the music side, but

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I'm such a fan, huge country music fan.

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge music fan. I'm a songwriters fan. I

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.360
<v Speaker 1>love the creative process. Um people say, why do you

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 1>do what you do? I say, this is as close

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>as I can get to music without knowing anything about it,

0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>because I can't know everything about it. But I can't

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 1>write a note, I can't play an instrument, I can't

0:39:11.800 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 1>sing a tune. But I am the biggest fan of music,

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and so I I just love being around it. And

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.879
<v Speaker 1>that's why being in Nashville, it's just like, I mean,

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>everywhere you look, there's talented there's energy. I mean, you

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.280
<v Speaker 1>you feel it. I mean, there's there's an cosmic force

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>in this town. That you're positive here. It is positive,

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>and it's as fast as we're growing, as fast as

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>we're evolving, and everybody's trying to get down on the

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 1>the sterilization and homogenization of Nashville, and it's losing its identity.

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:41.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't rip away its energy, you can't. And it's

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 1>still here. It's not going anywhere. I agree, And I

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.800
<v Speaker 1>think that in Nashville. I've sort of noticed people are competitive,

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but not with each other. It's more themselves. Like I

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like everyone here is chasing their own personal dream

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>and they're not trying to knock someone else out along

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>the way, not that you know. I mean, maybe people

0:39:58.160 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 1>set goals and like, Okay, I want to reach this

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 1>old but like, I don't think anyone's trying to like sides.

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>It's friendly competition, it's friendly. It's still competition, you know,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>don't mistake that. I mean, there's still very much a

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 1>competitive spirit in this town. But we're you're not trying

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.640
<v Speaker 1>to shred somebody down to to make it further. You

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 1>want to us life. No, No, And again it goes

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.439
<v Speaker 1>back to the negative energy. What I know, too many

0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>people in other aspects of the world or just friends

0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever that's been so much time hating on stuff,

0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and that just takes away from them progressing in their

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.919
<v Speaker 1>own life. They have all that energy that they could use.

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>You look at Facebook, you look at social media, and

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you look at too much the amount of time wasted

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:42.680
<v Speaker 1>hating people. You don't even know what's the point. I

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 1>don't understand it. I know it's just draining you from progressing. Yeah,

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, it's a whole other topic. But

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:50.840
<v Speaker 1>while we're on it, It's like I have a producer

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>for the radio show and when she first started, she

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:56.759
<v Speaker 1>was getting some not so nice comments and she was like, well,

0:40:56.760 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>how do you take this? I said, they don't hate you,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't even know you. They hate themselves. And it's

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>like they have a big hole in their soul that

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:06.280
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to fill up with negative energy going outward.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.120
<v Speaker 1>If you're able to put out all that negative energy,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>you have to be unhappy, and that's it. That's it.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:12.720
<v Speaker 1>You're reaching out for something that it's gonna you're Instead

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>of trying to fill that hole in your own soul,

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>you're depending on other people. Other people see if they

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>can take it away, that's it. But really they're just spreading.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>That's it just spreads like wildfire. It's a it's a plague,

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and it's unnecessary. I mean, you're changing it though, well

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what, and and puts me in the bull's

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.719
<v Speaker 1>eye at the same time, which I don't care. You know.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It's that's like I said, they don't hate me, they

0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know me. And if they do hate me, fine,

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like my job is not to please everybody. You know.

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.080
<v Speaker 1>It's okay, and I like it. I mean, I love

0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the I love just connected with people, good, better, ugly.

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think eventually you you make enough difference

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 1>along the way that all the negative stuff just slides off. Okay,

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>so you're now you freelance. You're here, you call up

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Crook and chase me like them come hire me. So

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>now you're working as a freelancer for Crook and chases

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>That lead into hosting at t NN, which later goes

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.919
<v Speaker 1>to J. A. C. Explained to me that journey because

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I had to tell you something. Yes, I grew up

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 1>watching you on G A C. Not like I was

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>like in high school and college, and when I met

0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.760
<v Speaker 1>you for the first time, I was superstar Chrek y West.

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I will never forget. You're sitting on the edge of

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>a pool at Key West, Yes, at the Reach Resort.

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember the place. I couldn't remember. I couldn't believe

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 1>that I met you because, like to me, you like OZ,

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>because you were stormy Warren on. You were very sweet.

0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's how I felt, you know, because was how

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 1>you got JC and C M T S. How you

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>got your country music videos, and you were the face

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:37.960
<v Speaker 1>of G A C like the face of all of

0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>j Z. It was a great video. I was like,

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:46.279
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, story Warren's talking to me and I

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody asked me the other day, I said, God, what

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>do you think you know? Do you did? You? Are

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.399
<v Speaker 1>you a star? Here? Are you in the public? I've

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.919
<v Speaker 1>never ever ever thought that way. That has never been

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:58.920
<v Speaker 1>my job. That's another piece of advice you told me.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:02.319
<v Speaker 1>You said, all always make it about the artist's trying

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>to bring it around you. Always bring it back to them,

0:43:04.360 --> 0:43:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Always bring it back to the artis never about. That's

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.480
<v Speaker 1>why this is so awkward for me to be on

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>this side of this, because it's my job is to

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:14.360
<v Speaker 1>find out what you makes you take and why you

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:16.440
<v Speaker 1>do what you do, and that's and to be that

0:43:16.480 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>link between the audience and the subject you're talking to

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>or the music you're trying to talk about. It's it's

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the connection. And I've always said, I'm just a traffic

0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 1>cop between the between the music and the and whether

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 1>it's on stage at festivals. You know, also you're a

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>festival m C. I said, no, I'm a traffic cop,

0:43:32.640 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get from point A to point B

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and fill the audience in on whatever we can in

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>the in the time. There's a definite difference for people

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>who come into this business looking for the fame and

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight and those who are looking at it because

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>they are passionate about You can see it. I think

0:43:50.600 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>if you look at people who do it, you can

0:43:52.480 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>see the difference. What does what does it look like?

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It's a much more of a me attitude instead of

0:43:57.840 --> 0:44:02.640
<v Speaker 1>a U attitude, And it's and I it makes me

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>bristle sometimes. I mean, to each his own, everybody's in

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>this for the right, for whatever reasons. But I remember

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Steele, the songwriter. He tells songwriters and anybody who

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>comes to town, because if you're coming to Nashville to

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.399
<v Speaker 1>become famous, turn around, pack up and go home. If

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 1>you're turn if you're coming to Nashville because you're passionate

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.959
<v Speaker 1>about music and passionate about the art form, welcome to town.

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:25.760
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a really good piece of advice

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>because famous so shallow. And again, um, there's a philosophy

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I have called chasing ghosts. And I think anybody who's

0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 1>chasing fame and chasing that dangling carrot out there is

0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>either running away from something or running to something, and

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.160
<v Speaker 1>they're never going to get it or run away from

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:48.799
<v Speaker 1>it because they're just they will never be satisfied enough.

0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.120
<v Speaker 1>They will never because it's what goes back to the whole,

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the hole in this whole, and it's just so many

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 1>of the most successful people we have in this business

0:44:57.239 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 1>suffer from that. And I believe you could tell that

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>to their face and they would go, yeah, yeah, absolutely,

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I agree that because they're trying. They're thinking that you

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>get all this validation from people will feel something. Sure,

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:11.520
<v Speaker 1>And in a way, I think we all do it.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 1>We're not in this business without having a piece of that,

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>of course, so I'm not saying I'm better than ever,

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but no, we all have some degree. It doesn't but

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.439
<v Speaker 1>it goes back to not enjoying reaching goals because it's

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing. It's like, I'm never going to get there.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 1>You're never going to get there everything. You know, each

0:45:26.080 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 1>time you think there's so low, it's a mile ahead again,

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.279
<v Speaker 1>you know. And then if you go and that's it's

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.160
<v Speaker 1>funny like when you achieved this goal though, of being

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a host on Tiana and being the face of g

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>A C. Because that's a huge gig from your four

0:45:41.840 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ty year old self. That started it back in venture

0:45:45.640 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 1>wherever was. It went from looking at somebody on television

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and saying, oh my gosh, I want to do that too,

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:56.320
<v Speaker 1>realizing it's not that big of a deal. It's just

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 1>it's just another gig. You're just happen to do it.

0:45:58.320 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I was just again a conduit. It's the artist and

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the audience. Being on television. I've never really wanted to

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:07.319
<v Speaker 1>be on TV. Done, No, I never wanted to be

0:46:07.360 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>on TV. And radio was always one thing because you

0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 1>could kind of just slide off into the shadows and

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:14.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of do your job, and and TV was

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>just kind of came by default, almost like Crooked Chase.

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I just was a segment producer, behind the scenes, and

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:25.240
<v Speaker 1>they're like, well we need somebody on air. Okay. Happened

0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>accidentally accidentally, and then once um TNN went away because

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.400
<v Speaker 1>they got bought out and there's a little gap, and

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>we decided to start our own country music news show

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>called Gosh Rosen's Country Music Across America. At the time

0:46:39.800 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>when we first started on T A C. And they're like, well,

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I said, who are we going to get as a host?

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And they're like, well, why don't you just do it?

0:46:46.000 --> 0:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's cheaper, you know, because we own the

0:46:48.960 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>production company. But if people are don't know, yeah, right now,

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely true. I became the host of that show,

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 1>not out of a desire to be a host of

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>a show, but just because it was by default and

0:46:58.560 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you knew what you're doing, you knew what you want

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to get right. It's Stevie Nicks and Phil Collins. Especially

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Phil Collins. I identify a lot with him because he

0:47:05.920 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>was the drummer for a group called Genesis and they

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>were auditioning for lead singers and he kept going up

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:14.359
<v Speaker 1>and having to tell the people auditioning how to sing

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the Genesis music until finally somebody goes, Phil, why didn't

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:20.919
<v Speaker 1>you just do it. What I'm not in the rest

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>is history. I believe that's I'm probably wrong on that way,

0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 1>but I know Phil Collins, Yeah, sort of. But don't

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you feel like the greatest things in life sort of

0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 1>happened if you allow it, if you allow it and

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.120
<v Speaker 1>embrace it and don't say no, that's not the direction

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I was supposed to go. So what take it? Right?

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>What is the worst thing that's going to happen? You

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.719
<v Speaker 1>end up in a dead end and go oh dan,

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you turn around and go back and try

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:47.680
<v Speaker 1>another avenue. It doesn't kill you. And I think once

0:47:47.680 --> 0:47:49.759
<v Speaker 1>you learn how if something doesn't work out, you have

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.520
<v Speaker 1>the inner you know you can do it. You know

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you can get a new path. Right. It's just knowing

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>that if one thing doesn't work out, it's on the

0:47:55.200 --> 0:47:58.360
<v Speaker 1>end of the world. No, it's it. We have a

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 1>new boss here at Series sex M and he came

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>in and he goes, tell me your philosophy. I said, well,

0:48:03.000 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I fly without a net. I'm not afraid to hit

0:48:04.880 --> 0:48:07.879
<v Speaker 1>my face on the ground. And hopefully you don't mind that,

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:10.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'll get up, dust off and try something else,

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and if it doesn't work, we'll try something else. Then

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 1>if it works. Wow, that was cool and it's fun,

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. It's not killing yourself over the mistakes.

0:48:19.160 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>The mistakes build us agree every failing. I've made a

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.839
<v Speaker 1>lot of them, and I don't really view that as

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 1>failures because I think it's such exactly said a building block. Yeah,

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and I look back on my twenties and like my mistakes,

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>and I love them. I I embraced every bit of it.

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:38.200
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of people looking at my past

0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:40.799
<v Speaker 1>history will go, really, you have no problem with that,

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, no, I don't, because it was the stuff

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I learned is going to make for such a better

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 1>life down the road then had i'd never learned those

0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>from those mistakes, and I think everybody has to. The

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>problem is when people don't learn from them right and

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.479
<v Speaker 1>keep making the same mistakes over and over and over.

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 1>And I usually have to make the same mistake east

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>three times before I learned Yeah, okay, that's fair. Three

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>by the third time I've been here before He again familiar.

0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>What is it? You fool me once? Shame on you,

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:18.719
<v Speaker 1>foil be twice, shame on me. Just don't go go

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 1>fooling yourself again. Yeah, it's really an interesting way to go.

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 1>But I don't mind it. I love every aspect of

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:28.359
<v Speaker 1>life in that sense. So do you prefer hosting on

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>camera hosting on radio? Because now you're hosting on the

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Highway series X is Highway Serious and you have the

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Stormy Warrant Show, the Morning Showing and you interview everyone

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.480
<v Speaker 1>under the sun. So tell me the difference between hosting

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.240
<v Speaker 1>on TV and hosting on radio and what you prefer.

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Television unfortunately creates a wall that is really hard to

0:49:46.520 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>get past, especially in an interview situation. Um, there's always

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of you or of your subject that

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.720
<v Speaker 1>is thinking about that third eye that's watching you, okay,

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know it's not just the connection between you

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 1>and I. There's other thing that is. It takes some

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of the energy away from the from the conversation. And

0:50:05.160 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that's why I think radio it breaks down that wall

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and you can actually have just a wide open yeah. Yeah,

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I forget other people are listening. It's direct eye contact

0:50:14.320 --> 0:50:17.440
<v Speaker 1>without thinking we'll be back after this, yeah, right, and

0:50:17.680 --> 0:50:19.359
<v Speaker 1>always having to have that in the back of your head.

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:24.280
<v Speaker 1>But I love it so much more. Radio, so much more. Really,

0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it's your heart and and The thing I like probably

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>as much as radio is live event hosting, like like

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>on the big stage in front of a ton of people.

0:50:32.920 --> 0:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's to me, like, Okay, can I ask you

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a question about that? How do you kill time? Like

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:40.799
<v Speaker 1>when you have when you're hosting a live event and

0:50:40.840 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you have space out there, you're supposed to like talk

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 1>to the audience for all? What do you talk about?

0:50:45.200 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Whatever comes to mind? Okay, Yeah, and it's it's the

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>audience will give it to you. Really, Yeah, my my

0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>biggest This to me kills a connection between an audience

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:00.080
<v Speaker 1>and a crowd. And we've talked about this, yeah, and

0:51:00.160 --> 0:51:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like if you can, if you can put those

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:04.480
<v Speaker 1>note cards away and just know enough about what you

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:08.040
<v Speaker 1>need to get to and share, the connection between you

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and the audience is so much better because you're actually

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.760
<v Speaker 1>looking in the eyes of them. You're not worried about

0:51:11.800 --> 0:51:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the wording and what else do I have to get to?

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>And and you have already lost that connection with the people.

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 1>They don't care if you don't care, because because if

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at the cards, you don't know the stuff

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:25.359
<v Speaker 1>well enough to why should I be listening to you?

0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>If if totally totally. And if you when you're alive,

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you use no card? Do you ever use cards? Oh gosh,

0:51:32.840 --> 0:51:34.680
<v Speaker 1>my memory is so bad. No, you could do it.

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I could do it. I mean I haven't

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 1>really needed it, but I don't like it. You've looked

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.120
<v Speaker 1>at this once and that was just to do a

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>direct quote. You could do the rest of this interview

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.760
<v Speaker 1>without that, all right? You can't mean, I'm sure I could.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:49.960
<v Speaker 1>It's more fun, trust me. So when you're going out there,

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>you you'll just kind of talk. What do you have

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.400
<v Speaker 1>to remember certain things? Like? Well, I mean, if you

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.279
<v Speaker 1>have a list of sponsors, there's no way around that

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 1>because you have to be respectful of the sponsors. You

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want to leave one out. You have to make sure.

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>And I hate that because it's like a crutch. It's

0:52:02.360 --> 0:52:05.480
<v Speaker 1>like I wish I could memorize them. But other than that,

0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>it's you try to avoid any notes at all, and

0:52:07.640 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>then the most spontaneous things happen. It goes back to

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:14.600
<v Speaker 1>opening up and embracing the unknown, and someone could look

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>at you and mouse something to you in that crowd.

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:18.640
<v Speaker 1>That creates a whole dialogue, which creates a whole thing

0:52:18.680 --> 0:52:20.919
<v Speaker 1>that takes over that break that you need to fill,

0:52:21.120 --> 0:52:22.879
<v Speaker 1>which you were going to fill up just by reading

0:52:22.920 --> 0:52:25.640
<v Speaker 1>mindless stuff on notes cards totally. Instead, you have this

0:52:26.040 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>connection with an audience that's not just this one person,

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 1>but now the entire whether it's twenty people or a

0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand people, are invested in what's going on between

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you and some people all the time, all the time. Okay,

0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:40.279
<v Speaker 1>what if they just don't get What if they give

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 1>you a short thing but it doesn't carry on into

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 1>like a conversation, just move on someone else, Like do

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you have any go to questions? You might ask someone

0:52:46.840 --> 0:52:48.560
<v Speaker 1>There might be a few little things, you know, but

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not even asking. It's just about soaking in like

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>a sponge. What the energy is of the room? What

0:52:53.800 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 1>is what are people fast? If somebody's throwing a beach

0:52:55.880 --> 0:52:58.480
<v Speaker 1>ball around that looks like, you know, a character from

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon or something, that could be the stimulus that

0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:03.279
<v Speaker 1>takes you to a different direction. We did a thing

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:05.799
<v Speaker 1>at a festival where I took a football and I

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:11.000
<v Speaker 1>had about a minute gap to fill. It's a long time,

0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and they wanted just constant stuff, and I'm like, I'm

0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 1>not a stand up comic. I'm not funny. Yeah, I'm

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:17.879
<v Speaker 1>really not funny. And that's the other thing. I'm like, well,

0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you must be really funny if you're. No, I'm not

0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:21.439
<v Speaker 1>funny at all. Trust me, if you listen to the show,

0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not funny. But what I am is just a

0:53:25.080 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 1>just open and and and to the connection to people.

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:32.400
<v Speaker 1>And so I said, well, and so here's a football.

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.520
<v Speaker 1>And I went and two guys on a college football team.

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.120
<v Speaker 1>We're backstage. So I had him sign it, and it

0:53:39.200 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, let's go out. And it was

0:53:41.320 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>in Missouri. It was the show me Fest, and I went,

0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's go h let's see a football, all right,

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 1>who wants a football? Everybody screaming down cheap trick, throwing

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>stuff out into the crowd. Everybody likes free stuff. So

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:54.960
<v Speaker 1>you throw the football in the crowd. And then it's like,

0:53:54.960 --> 0:53:57.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, there's a catch. And this stuff just come

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 1>came to me while I was thinking about it, was like,

0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be back here in about you know, after

0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the next act, probably an hour or so. I want

0:54:04.719 --> 0:54:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to see that football, but it better not look like

0:54:06.520 --> 0:54:08.960
<v Speaker 1>a football. And they're like what. Everybody's like, what do

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you mean? Whatever? You do. That's your only rule. I

0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>want to see that football, but I don't want it

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to look like that football. And this is the beginning

0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:18.239
<v Speaker 1>of a four day festival. By the end of day

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 1>four we had a six and a half foot tall

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 1>man sitting in a chair, all put together by pieces

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and parts of trash that people have made this character

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:32.439
<v Speaker 1>and the head was the football, you know, and people

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>would take it to their campsites and then bring it

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.040
<v Speaker 1>back to the festival the next day, and it became

0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>it came our guy. It was Wilson. He's actually in

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>a glass box like a museum piece, in the office

0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of the promoter of the festival, and we knew it. Yeah,

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't me. They can but it wasn't I didn't

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.279
<v Speaker 1>create it. But then these people got invested and they

0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 1>got the connection. It became a big came a craft

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.279
<v Speaker 1>project for an entire and those things were fun to

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>come up with. And there's like weird stuff that you

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>can just not all of it works. Sometimes you walk

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:13.120
<v Speaker 1>up the stage going on but you don't yeah exactly,

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.880
<v Speaker 1>but you don't know until you try. Awesome, So you

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 1>just love to go creative. His name was Wilson. By

0:55:18.239 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the way. Well, that's only fitting. And we knew he

0:55:21.520 --> 0:55:23.959
<v Speaker 1>had built something great when the promoter was driving around

0:55:24.000 --> 0:55:26.399
<v Speaker 1>backstage in a golf cart and in the passenger seat

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:30.479
<v Speaker 1>was Wilson sitting. Stop. It's a great picture. It's running

0:55:30.520 --> 0:55:33.800
<v Speaker 1>around somewhere. Yeah, that's a great picture. Okay. So also

0:55:33.840 --> 0:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about things that you love and treasure. You have

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:39.840
<v Speaker 1>this wall here that is like full of badges. Yeah,

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 1>it's happening over there. It's a great example for what

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we love to do. UM, the whole connection thing. Celebrating life,

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>Celebrating people who are living life on a day to

0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>day basis, just making things work, paying bills, taking care

0:55:54.480 --> 0:55:59.240
<v Speaker 1>of their family, you know, playing music, UM, doing whatever

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>people do to keep this country grow going, keep their

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:04.759
<v Speaker 1>lives going. And a lot of those are first responders

0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 1>and members of our military. And I'm a huge fan.

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I do a lot of trips of the U. S

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.120
<v Speaker 1>O and go overseas uh with Kelly Pickler. We did

0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.200
<v Speaker 1>it with Ruddy Atkins, the Swan Brothers and numerous other

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:19.000
<v Speaker 1>acts that we've just taken over. We did that with

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Kelly in two thousand and seven and just fell in

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:23.040
<v Speaker 1>love with everybody. I mean, my dad was an Air

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Force pilot and the police and firefighters, and especially right now,

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody's under the gun so much that you

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.120
<v Speaker 1>just got to celebrate these people that really they are underpaid, overworked,

0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 1>and underappreciated. And so we had a family come in

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:40.759
<v Speaker 1>right after Superstorm Sandy in New Jersey and said, hey,

0:56:41.120 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you all for all your support of our first responders.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:45.759
<v Speaker 1>We hear you talking about it and and helping to

0:56:45.760 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>rebuild Jersey. We thought this Jersey Strong Magnet would have

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a good place on on this wall, which was blank

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 1>at the time. There was nothing on that wall. And

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 1>then we had more visitors come to the studio who

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are from New York and said, oh, yeah, I worked

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 1>in rebuilding too. I'm with this firefighter company, I'm with

0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:03.880
<v Speaker 1>this New Jersey Police Department. And so organically, without us,

0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:07.239
<v Speaker 1>really it just grew and there's hundreds there. Yeah, and

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 1>they we probably get about twenty a week now people

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>to send them in. Yeah, they send it, they send

0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 1>him in, they bring him in it. Yeah, and it's

0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it's our Wally heroes. And I have more pride of

0:57:17.200 --> 0:57:19.800
<v Speaker 1>that Wally Heroes. I mean, there's two Navy seals up there.

0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:22.880
<v Speaker 1>There's Jeffrey in their quotes. I'm a quote junkie. By

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the way, character is the place inside you where the

0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>things you say, the things you do, the decisions you

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:32.480
<v Speaker 1>make come from discipline, regret. The choice is yours. That's

0:57:32.480 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>my favorite. Yeah. The guy on the right set the

0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:42.800
<v Speaker 1>world record for the longest squirrel suit flight eighteen miles. Wow. Yeah.

0:57:42.840 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And these guys just come in and I mean, that's

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a that's a Navy seal trident on that one piece

0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 1>of white paper up there, you got And they don't

0:57:50.440 --> 0:57:53.080
<v Speaker 1>hand those out, no, but they know they know it's

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 1>not mine. I'm not taking these home, but they know

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.040
<v Speaker 1>this is a sacred place. This is a sacred place.

0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like these coins. Very easily somebody could come in

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:01.600
<v Speaker 1>here and these coins off the wall or patch off

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the wall. But it's kind of an unset thing. You

0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.280
<v Speaker 1>don't touch the wall. Don't touch the wall. There's a

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.080
<v Speaker 1>two patches up there that are there's a South Carolina

0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:13.480
<v Speaker 1>patch with the big tea up there right below Andy

0:58:13.520 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Stumps thing. Um. That's a husband and a wife and

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 1>the husband was killed while the wife was also serving overseas.

0:58:22.040 --> 0:58:24.160
<v Speaker 1>And she her name is April, and we met her

0:58:24.240 --> 0:58:29.480
<v Speaker 1>in um, South Carolina, and she told us the story

0:58:29.840 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 1>about how she was racing home to meet the remains

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:35.960
<v Speaker 1>of her husband and she was in Kuwait and she goes,

0:58:36.120 --> 0:58:37.920
<v Speaker 1>come on, get this plane off the ground. I don't

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be there. My husband makes it finally home

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and they said, ma'am, you're gonna have to wait about

0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.960
<v Speaker 1>another half hour, so we have another passenger. Fine, okay.

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:49.520
<v Speaker 1>The back of the plane opens up and the flag

0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:52.440
<v Speaker 1>draped casket comes in and she flew home with her husband.

0:58:53.320 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>And she that that was not planned. It just happened

0:58:55.960 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to all the transportation going around all over this war.

0:58:58.960 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 1>She just happened to be taking the same flight home

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 1>as her husband. Really had no idea. Now and to

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.200
<v Speaker 1>hear her tell the story, and we were all in tears.

0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>And then a couple of weeks later she sent us

0:59:07.200 --> 0:59:09.040
<v Speaker 1>those two patches and she goes, can you make sure

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:14.040
<v Speaker 1>they stay together? I'm like, yes, that's what I mean.

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 1>So every time I gets to be choked up to

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:18.800
<v Speaker 1>so when you turn around your chair around in the

0:59:18.800 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 1>middle of a shell and there's a little downtime, I

0:59:20.880 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>always try to pick out a patch and remember the

0:59:23.200 --> 0:59:26.120
<v Speaker 1>story that went with it, because it's it's a wall

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>of heroes that and every one of those patch has

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a sense of pride. There's a grandparents patches from the fifties.

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:34.800
<v Speaker 1>There's some guy who just said I couldn't just quit

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the police force. Here's my actual badge and it's yeah.

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's just I'm fascinated by people in in in

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:46.479
<v Speaker 1>all aspects of life. It's love talking to celebrities, sure,

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but they're honestly not the most interesting people I come across.

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:54.440
<v Speaker 1>It's anybody you meet on the side of the street. Um.

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>A friend of mine says, it goes you are so

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:58.360
<v Speaker 1>much fun to go to a bar with because you're

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you become everybody's best friend in the first to minute's interested.

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:04.000
<v Speaker 1>What wasted opportunity is it to sit at a bar

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and not open your mouth and connect. You have no

1:00:07.160 --> 1:00:09.640
<v Speaker 1>idea it may not work, but at least but it

1:00:09.720 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 1>may open the connection. And just who who could you meet?

1:00:13.160 --> 1:00:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Who knows you will see a story unfold if you

1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 1>allow it to. And that's the way everything should in

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 1>life should be embraced. It's just why closed doors when

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.040
<v Speaker 1>so many doors could be just opened up with just

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<v Speaker 1>the story when it should be sunshine I'm changing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why, maybe subconsciously, I'm overcoming the stigma of

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<v Speaker 1>being named Stormy. You're so bright. That's such a great

1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.720
<v Speaker 1>way of your life. It's it's a blast and it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it fun. Huh, Yeah it does. Um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if I left to stew alone for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>I could probably find some dark places. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I like people so much, because you could.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's much more fun. I totally agree with. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So who just on the celebrity side, who are of

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<v Speaker 1>your most favorite interviews ever? Um Garth Brooks Is was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite because he too is very unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>He's the biggest challenge for an interviewer anybody. Um. I've

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<v Speaker 1>said it to his face, We've said it on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>He came in not too long ago to our studio

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<v Speaker 1>and he is famous for leaving a bone for you

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up. And if you don't pick it up,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna help you. Give me an example, like

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I said, what are you working on now?

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, Oh, man, I'm just good hanging out with

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<v Speaker 1>some old friends and some nuance. We'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems quite familiar though, and then moved on. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, that sounds great, and just let that those

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<v Speaker 1>words just go over my head. And at the time

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<v Speaker 1>he was rerecording friends in Low Places, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>his hint if I were to pick up on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've gone back and listened and watched so many

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<v Speaker 1>of my Garth Brooks interviews over the past quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>a century, and every single interview I've missed something. I

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<v Speaker 1>have thrown things at the television, thrown things at the

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<v Speaker 1>speakers after hearing it, after he's already left the room

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<v Speaker 1>and gone. So he's tiny, tiny, and if you're smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough to pick up on it, but you have to

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<v Speaker 1>know him, you have to know his work, and you

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<v Speaker 1>also have to just be listening. If you listen, he

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<v Speaker 1>wants you to work as hard as he's working. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I just think it's to me, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>a game, and I love it and I lose all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, but but I love it. Um there's one

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<v Speaker 1>time he had a I had notes, was back in

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<v Speaker 1>my note days, and actually this one lesson taught me

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the notes away. Like if you sit right

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<v Speaker 1>here with your notes like this, you're interview with me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm spending a lot of time looking now at your notes,

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<v Speaker 1>wondering what's on there, trying and and Garth admitted one

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<v Speaker 1>time because I could read upside down, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>often know it's so. And he knew what questions were

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<v Speaker 1>coming before I did. And so I put the notes

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<v Speaker 1>away and he goes, now this makes me uncomfortable, and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes, but this is this is a great conversation, now,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. And I and from that point forward he

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<v Speaker 1>taught me to throw the notes away. And Larry King too.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a stage manager for a while, see Ann,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to run his earpiece wire up his back,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a little uncomfortable. A little uncomfortable. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>very familiar with the city, I know, very moisturized. I

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<v Speaker 1>still feel it right now, not well enough. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>little thank you for bringing me back there. Yeah. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>But he never his number one rule, And this seems

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<v Speaker 1>so counterintuitive to being an interview But because never know

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<v Speaker 1>more about your subject than your audience. Okay, that doesn't encounter.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if you spend your entire time regurgitating to the

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<v Speaker 1>audience everything about your subject that you know, that's time

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<v Speaker 1>you've taken away from that subject actually communicating their own story.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's yeah, and that one really stuck. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I know, Um, there's a person

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<v Speaker 1>in town that I respect so much for being the

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<v Speaker 1>most prepared interviewer I've ever met. This person will study

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<v Speaker 1>for weeks and know every single detail. And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a different style. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just different philosophies on how you do it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that from Larry and that two things no notes

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<v Speaker 1>and don't know more than you're and you're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>great job with it, I mean, because this turns into

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation and not an interview, And then a conversation

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<v Speaker 1>is much more entertaining for people to listen to than

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<v Speaker 1>it is an interview question answer. I mean, you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>people when they go, so, tell me about your new

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<v Speaker 1>book and then blah blah blah blah blah book. Yeah. Um, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it says here that you went to such and such school,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a that's an interview instead of just going, God,

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<v Speaker 1>where did you get your start? You know, like and boom,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes you places if you are willing to take

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<v Speaker 1>those roads. And it's like the Buck Owens interview we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about a while ago. I was scared to

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<v Speaker 1>death because I brought not thing. And that's one that

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<v Speaker 1>I really did actually want to be prepared for because

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<v Speaker 1>it was the interview that I'd waited my entire life for,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turned out to be the best blessing that

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<v Speaker 1>I had trained to that point of just having the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and it turned out to be a really really big

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<v Speaker 1>blessing in disguise. It's almost like all those tips led

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<v Speaker 1>me to be able to do that interview. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>holy Grail did the interview started talking about pooping your pants.

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<v Speaker 1>The interview started goes, I hope you've got some good questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like why. I like why? And he goes, because,

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<v Speaker 1>is the last one of these fuckers I'm ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? You did his last interview? Is that not awesome?

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy and my heart just sank and great,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks Buck. Well, the good news is you were totally

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<v Speaker 1>prepared and it's just but my head just went all right,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go and and and then just go and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was really one of the most fun things,

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<v Speaker 1>and we turned it into a whole hour long special

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<v Speaker 1>on g see start to finish. We didn't cut anything.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it's called the Final conversation. Holy cow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>moments you've had in your life. And I'm sure we're

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<v Speaker 1>just scratching the surface. It's fun. Yeah, I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>I like interviewing the new artists as much as I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the new artist. And then I have to wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>because it's already been an hour. How did that happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're awesome. No, you're awesome. See see what you

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<v Speaker 1>did there, You're you're you're doing it, You're and you're

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<v Speaker 1>really good. By the way, I've got some great tips

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<v Speaker 1>from me today to shut up. You're an idiot. You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're better at this than I am. Um, gosh, who

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<v Speaker 1>am I looking forward to right now? I am fascinated

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<v Speaker 1>by Marion Morris. She's such a bad because I love

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<v Speaker 1>personalities and I love I love the psychology of what

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<v Speaker 1>a creative person goes through and and digging in and finding.

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<v Speaker 1>And she is such an open book and such a

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<v Speaker 1>great She's a real good spirit, and so I love

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<v Speaker 1>I love sitting down and talking with her. I love

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<v Speaker 1>t J and John Sports. I love the brothers. They're

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<v Speaker 1>so hold on. I okay, So you love Mary Morris

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<v Speaker 1>and you love the Osborne brothers. Brothers Osborne, I am

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with them. They're still authentic. They are They sit

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<v Speaker 1>here in these two chairs and just like this, we're

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<v Speaker 1>an hour disappeared. We could do four hours and and

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<v Speaker 1>what we love is just what we've just spent this

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<v Speaker 1>hour talking about. And we are very similar in our

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<v Speaker 1>beliefs of just opening up to life and letting life

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<v Speaker 1>deliver the gifts that you're opened up to. And so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll come in about anything, anything. One of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>moments with them, uh I was like, God, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what just happened? Don't you hate it when somebody texts

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<v Speaker 1>you and they just assumed that you know who they

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<v Speaker 1>are and don't sign their name. They're like, so, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up? And you have no idea what the number?

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<v Speaker 1>And it leaves the most uncomfortable situation. We have to go,

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<v Speaker 1>who's this and it's just and it's and you look

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<v Speaker 1>like the dou fist because because they were, because they

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<v Speaker 1>were impolite and didn't address the fact that you might

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<v Speaker 1>not have saved their number. So that just opened up

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<v Speaker 1>into a whole thing. And then it happened to t

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<v Speaker 1>J as we were sitting here, because oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>it just happened, and so we called the person on

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<v Speaker 1>the air and and did the whole and it just

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<v Speaker 1>was this great moment and there's no telling what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen with them. And that's and we could go

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<v Speaker 1>in with a master plan for an interview of where

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go, and it never goes there, and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes a complete left handed to a whole new direction.

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<v Speaker 1>And those are the best. That's when you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you are on the edge of your seat and it's

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<v Speaker 1>you're holding on, you're you're not quite in charge, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're but you're okay, and it's um. A manager once

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<v Speaker 1>told me that the most exciting place for an artist

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<v Speaker 1>to be, or a creative person or anybody in this

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<v Speaker 1>business to be is when you're leaning back in a

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<v Speaker 1>chair and you're leaning back in a chair and you're

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<v Speaker 1>leaning back and just before it falls over, you catch yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>You've done that on two legs on a chair, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in school or whatever, and you go because that's that

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<v Speaker 1>edge you want to be on at all times. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's the most creative, the most electric and it's

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<v Speaker 1>where you gonna do your best work. So that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like recording shows. I love live, live anything

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<v Speaker 1>because on the spot and once it's done, it's done.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no going back and fixing. I like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like editing. No, I couldn't be a recording artist

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<v Speaker 1>if a singer and sit there and go fix everything? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>do you like the human element happen and just go

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<v Speaker 1>and go do it and then whatever happens happens. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Yeah, it's great. Well, we posted a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of live events together when I That was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first ones I ever did was National Dancing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you won't next time. I'm not going to have So

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean you don't study it. I mean, like

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<v Speaker 1>the night before the morning of, you go through and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you know in your mind, you know where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go, but don't be afraid of where

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think you're going to have a terrible memory.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know, I really do. You can ask anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in my life that I have a horrible memory. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot remember any your dory. Yes. Basically, it's like when

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't stealing angels the band like we go do stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jan and Taylor would tell me we did it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would just have to believe him because I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't remember, Like I literally have gaping holes in my

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<v Speaker 1>mind and I can't remember and retain. That's okay. Short

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<v Speaker 1>term memory is fine though, Okay, yeah, you probably have

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<v Speaker 1>a good short term memory. Yeah. I mean I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just out of side, out of mine, but it works.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a great conversation. So loved it, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's awesome. Thanks. Okay, Well we have to wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up because when we're at Winton and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you forever. But I like to end. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>part two, Part two, Okay. I like to end with

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<v Speaker 1>leave your light, So leave me some inspiration or how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to inspire the world, or how you've been inspired. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the only way to avoid failure in life

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<v Speaker 1>it's never quitting. And that's it's a sure far away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a guarantee you will never fail if you never quit.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you could look at setbacks, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not failing as long as you're still moving, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you're still getting up every morning and fighting towards

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<v Speaker 1>the goal. There is no failure. So the only time

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<v Speaker 1>you fail is when you walk away from it. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you just go, oh, well, screw that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you fail. And not in life, but just

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<v Speaker 1>in that particular aspect. But if you really want to

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<v Speaker 1>come to town to be a recording artist, then don't quit.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep going. Keep going. You'll learn along the way, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll learn and and it may not take you to

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<v Speaker 1>the place that you thought you were going, right, it

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<v Speaker 1>might take you to a new door. But that's not failing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just redirecting. It's redirecting so that I live by

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<v Speaker 1>that one a lot, and that's it's fun. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other one, which is very apropos I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>lived by two. I saw told you I'm a quote junkie.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see. I love you just can't remember. It's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If you find yourself whining about the times your time

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<v Speaker 1>has passed. Wow, if you're one of those oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>this town I remember when it used to be this

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<v Speaker 1>or that. God, this isn't country music, I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what country music was. And if you find yourself anything

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<v Speaker 1>in life, it's just like there's kids what they're wearing

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<v Speaker 1>right now? Can you believe the clothes that they're wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh why gosh, what is this on television? So if

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself whining about the times, your time has past,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to be okay with that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you if you're okay with that being

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<v Speaker 1>your stamp that you you have stopped existing at a

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<v Speaker 1>certain time frame in your life and are refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>adapt or grow, revolve, or to keep those doors open

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<v Speaker 1>to embrace new parts of life. That's your choice, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's but it's just just know that you have

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<v Speaker 1>closed that door and you're you need to open up.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's hard. It's hard. We do get set in

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<v Speaker 1>our ways, and technology and everything advances so fast and

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<v Speaker 1>everything it's hard to sit. They're going to can't learn

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on and with all these young kids, what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing and all this kind of stuff. But then fine,

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<v Speaker 1>don't just don't whine about it because it's happening, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna wait for you. So that there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Story Warren, that was the best interview. You're the best

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<v Speaker 1>things for the tips too. I'm totally applying Caral Love.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a queen of talking. She's got the scoop on No. One.

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<v Speaker 1>Caral Love Carala. I hope that you loved hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>Stormy Warren. He is so freaking fantastic. I love him.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week, I am really excited because I have Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>Pickler joining me and we are going to be going

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<v Speaker 1>through the first few episodes of everything That's Happened on

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<v Speaker 1>I Love Kelly Pickler, which is on CMT right now

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<v Speaker 1>on Thursday nights, and I am on the cast with her.

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<v Speaker 1>We have so much fun and we've done about three

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<v Speaker 1>episodes so far, so we're gonna be breaking down what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on and what to look forward to and what's

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<v Speaker 1>up in Kelly's world. So y'all tune in next week

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<v Speaker 1>for Kelly Pickler See you. Then that is the Bes