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Subscribe now and listen 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:13.440 to the Luminary Original podcast. Guys, We've starting January one 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.360 on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:26.240 you get your podcasts. Hey, guys, this is David Denman 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:36.840 and I played Roy Anderson on The Office. Well. Hello, friends, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:42.399 welcome once again to another episode of the Office Deep Dive. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.959 I am your host, Brian baum Gartner, and today I 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.920 am so excited about this our guest today, as you know, 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:54.640 played well. I'd call him iconic. An iconic character on 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:59.600 the Office. He dated everyone's favorite receptionist, He vandalized a bar, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.600 and he threw some punches, or he would have if 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:09.560 not for dwightes Pepper spray. If you catch my meaning, 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:14.880 you know I am bringing on the incredible David Denman today, 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:20.079 a k a. Roy Anderson. Now. David currently is on 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:24.320 one of my favorite shows, HBO's Mayor of Easttown, but 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.960 before that, he spent many years playing an ordinary guy 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:33.000 just working in a warehouse. He really has a unique 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:37.160 perspective on the office, right, because his character was on 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.760 and off the show for all nine years, and he 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.160 went through quite a journey during that time. Today we're 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:48.280 going to talk about that, as well as Roy's standout moments, 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.760 his wedding, the Booze Cruise, and much much more. We're 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.880 also going to bring up some big questions for David. 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.919 Was Roy a sympathetic character, do we think he cheat 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.480 it on Pam? And most importantly, what was in his 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:08.440 trash bag from the pilot. It's a good question, right, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:13.600 So join me today in welcoming half of Pam and Roy, 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:19.080 or boy as no one has called them ever. David Denman, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:30.520 Bubble and Squeak. I love it, Bubble and Squeak, Bubble 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:34.400 and Squeaker, cooking it every month, left over from the 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:50.840 night before. David, what's happening, brother? What is going on? 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.320 Oh my god, it's been so long. How are you. 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.960 I'm good, I know I was. We were just trying 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:58.400 to figure out last time I saw you, I think 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.600 was at your wedding when I don't remember when that was. Gosh, 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:07.920 that is just so that's just disgustingly too long. It's 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:10.960 all right, Oh my god, all right, Well we are 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.600 we're going to get in to a lot, but I 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:18.840 want to start back at the beginning. You're from California, 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:23.680 but you end up getting accepted and go to Juilliard, 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.440 which basically what that means to me is you knew 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.800 what you wanted to do pretty early. Is that true? Yeah? No, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.680 I knew I wanted to be an actress since I 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:35.560 was a kid. I remember I went and saw that 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.560 movie The Black Stallion when I was a kid, and 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.919 I must have been six when it came out, I think, 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.080 and my dad took me. I never forget it, and 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.279 I remember going, I want to be that kid, and 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.479 it was the ongoing joke in the family, like David, 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.600 You're not going to be a jockey. It's just not 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:54.280 gonna happen. And then shortly after that et came out 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.640 and I was like, I want to do what that 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.520 guy's doing, and uh my family was just like, what, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.400 we have no idea what to do with you? And so, uh, yeah, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.000 I knew from a young age all these pictures of 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.560 me dressing up in costumes, running around and you know, 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:11.520 pretend me too. Did you have any family connection, I mean, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.719 being from California, did you have any family connection to 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.400 the business or anything. No, nothing at all. You know. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.640 My dad was a draftsman and my mom my mom 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:23.240 worked like as a receptionist. Basically, I had no connection whatsoever. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.200 I actually didn't even hear of Juilliard until I was 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.200 in high school. And I remember there was a kid 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.760 named Michael his adorf and he was like a real 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.760 actor because I grew up in Orange County, which is 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.880 about an hour from l A. And he would go 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.760 up and do commercials and do bit parts and movies 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.560 and stuff, and so, you know, I was like, oh, wow, 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.080 you're really doing it and uh. And he was like, well, 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.920 I'm gonna go Tom, I'm gonna apply and try to 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:49.480 go to Juilliard. And I said, what is that, because 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.240 well it's an acting school. And I was like, there's 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.400 schools for acting. I mean, it was that naive. He 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.560 was like, yeah, dude, Robin Williams, Kevin Klein. I was like, 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.200 what they went there? He's like yeah. I was like 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.919 blown away. And then I went because I was a 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.719 terrible student and I knew I wasn't going to go 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:07.680 to college, no that my family had gone to college. 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.400 And then I, you know, went down the rabbit hole 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.040 of like, wait a minute, I can go to school 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.719 for acting. And so a friend of mine went to 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.880 the American Conservatory Theater. They had a summer training congress 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.160 the summer before my senior year. He was a year 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.840 ahead of me, a guy named Craig Brewer who went 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:28.400 on to be a writer director of Hustle and Flow 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:33.200 and Black Snake, Moan and Dolomite is my name another one. Anyway, 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.800 he's been very successful. But he was an actor when 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.440 we were in school, and he went and I was like, oh, 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.920 I'm gonna go there. So my whole senior year was 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:47.040 all about going to act summer program. And then once 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.400 I did that, I wanted to go to the you know, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.360 the grad program, but they wouldn't let you in and 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.480 for two years you had to have two years of college. 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.839 So I went to junior college for two years, and 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:58.800 I was like, I'm gonna do as many plays as 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.839 I can do here, and do you know, take some classes, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.120 and and then I'll apply for a c T. And 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.640 then I figured, well, from applying there, I might as 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.360 well apply to all these other schools that I want 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.280 to go to. And Juliard was at the top of 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.920 the list and an n y U and Harvard had 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.520 a program, and so I went up an audition for 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:22.200 Juilliard and Harvard the same weekend they did it like 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.920 in San Francisco, and then that Monday, I got a 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.880 call from Juilliard saying, hey, we'd like to offer you 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:29.600 a spot, and that was like my top choice, so 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.000 I was like what Yeah, of course, So I didn't 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.080 even do the other auditions and awesome A end up 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.200 getting getting into the Harvard program as well, and I 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.880 was like, thanks guys, but I'm I'm gonna go here 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.240 and stand there like good for you. Have fun. That's incredible. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.120 So you moved to New York? I did. Yeah, I 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.560 moved to New York And yeah, I had no idea 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.960 when I was getting into I mean, like I said, 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:56.680 no one in my family went to college, so my 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:59.480 idea of college was dead poets society. I was like, 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:01.640 I know what New York City was like or what 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:03.160 a campus was going to be like. And I walked 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.440 into Lincoln Center and I'm like, oh, this is interesting. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.280 I mean, this is all before the Internet or you 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.320 could just look everything up. This is like here's a pamphlet, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.400 here's a couple of pictures of what are the inside 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:16.120 of our school? Looks like like you have no idea. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.600 It was definitely not Dead Poets Society. There was no 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:22.080 beautiful what was that Princeton? I think they shot that 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:26.800 or something. Yeah, beautiful campus. Right at this point, were 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:30.480 you interested in film and television? I mean you referenced 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.880 your friend who was going and doing commercials and stuff 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.839 or or for you was it was it theater? You know? 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.000 It was theater? Was was everything? I mean I kind 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:40.880 of like I remember when I was in junior college 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.760 and having a conversation with a buddy of mine, this 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.880 guy Todd Kolezack, who we were doing rosen Crants and 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:51.320 Guildensterner Dead, and I was like, yeah, I just wanted 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.360 to do theater and something. He's like, what are you 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.200 talking about, dude, why don't you go try to do 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.640 film and TV? Like, I don't know, I don't know. 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:00.600 And I remember one of my teachers I was like 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:02.360 reading this play and he was like, what do you 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:03.800 What are you reading? And I'm like, oh, that's this 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.400 new play just came out of New York And he goes, Okay, 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:08.680 you need to read more books. I go what do 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.160 you mean? He goes, why are you reading a play 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.080 that somebody else already did? Why don't you read a 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.760 book so you can do the the original version of it, 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.760 you know, and some movie or something. And I was like, wow, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:20.920 I think these people have a lot more faith in 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:25.079 me than I have in myself. And and and those 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.920 those conversations did start sparking like, well, maybe I'll go 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.280 and give it a shot. And and then I went 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.880 to New York. I went to school, which was a grind, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.680 and I saw all these really talented people come out 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.640 and just get beat up. And I went and did 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.880 a summer Shakespeare festival in Utah, and there was a 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.720 guy who had come out of another grad program a 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:49.080 few years before us, and he had spent I don't 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.160 know five ten years out of grad school doing theater 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.160 and he was just then going to go to l 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.360 A and try to break in. And he was so 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.679 impassionate about it. He was like, don't wait, don't wait, 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.120 I go what he goes, there's one time when you 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.920 come out of school where they're all interested in you. 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.120 I wish I would have capitalized on it when I 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.320 had the shot, and I didn't. And now I'm starting 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:13.120 from the ground up again, and it's it's going to 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.160 be brutal. And if you get out of school and 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.680 there's interest, get on a plane and go to l A. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:21.800 And so that was like the summer before my senior year. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.440 And so my buddy who would who was also at Utah, 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:29.120 who was at graduating from Yale School of Drama, he 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.640 had already done the New York thing before he went 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.120 to before he went to Yale, and so he was like, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:37.280 I'm going to l A. We should go together. And 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.280 I'm like, you're crazy, what are you What are you 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.280 talking about? And I had family, you know, in Orange County, 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:45.280 So it wasn't like that crazy to do. But I 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:47.240 just thought I would at least spend a year in 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.199 New York and like capitalize on all those theater connections 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.920 and trying to do some regional theater. And and then 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.319 I did one play right when I graduated, and like 0:10:57.440 --> 0:11:00.439 Shakespeare by the Sea, I think it was Shakespeare on 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.800 the on the Sound. I don't even know. It's something 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.200 real Wheat and Connecticut. We did so many of these 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.439 same summer things. By the way, that's actually which we've 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.400 never talked about, but anyway, you did one show. I 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:14.280 did one show. I was making like two fifty bucks 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.120 a week. I couldn't even pay my rent. It was 0:11:16.160 --> 0:11:19.080 like that was good. I was good. I was like, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.679 I'm so excited to get that job finally. And I 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:25.679 was like, this is terrible. This is not gonna this 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.320 is not gonna work. And so I remember July fift 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.200 my buddy I was like, Hey, I've got to go 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.120 to this wedding up in Oregon. You want to take 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:35.400 a road trip. And I hadn't been home and over 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:37.800 a year, and I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna 0:11:37.840 --> 0:11:39.720 come back and let's take that road trip. So I 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:42.080 came back. Luckily, I had an agent that had a 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:45.760 West Coast office. Come to find out afterwards that that 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.280 doesn't mean anything. That she had She had a meeting 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.680 with me and was like, hey, yeah, if you ever 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.360 feel like coming out to l A, just let me know. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.800 She was like the owner of the company. And I 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.000 was like, yeah, no, seriously, I'm I'm I'm probably gonna 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.079 do that. She was like okay, but she she told 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:03.560 me later that she was like, you know what, we 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:05.560 just say that to everybody when we're signing them. But 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.080 like we work as two separate offices. Like if you 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.440 didn't get anything, I would have sent you back and 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.240 really like, well, that's just such a lie. She's like, well, 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.080 you know, what are you gonna do again? This is 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:21.000 like before digital and not only tax but even email. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.280 I mean, this is like right when email is started. Man, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.920 I had a page that I'd get a pager to say, hey, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.199 you got an audition, called the page your number back 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:31.880 and be like what is it? And then I had 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.319 to go to the office to print out the sides 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.360 and print out the appointment sheet. But anyway, I long 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.120 story short, I came in and I booked my first audition, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.680 which was for e Er and at the time that 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:45.560 was like the number one show on TV. And my 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:50.720 agent was like, you should consider staying and uh and 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.920 I said all right, And my buddy was already here 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.240 and he wanted to stay. He was like, let's get 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.520 an apartment. So we got an apartment and I never 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.719 went back. I mean I went back, god twenty years 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:03.680 later or to work, but never, you know, to go live. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.880 You were l a based based immediately, Yeah, within a 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.200 couple of months of graduating from school. So and then 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:14.160 so you get this role on the Er, and so 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:16.960 things were just really easy from then on out right. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.960 I mean you just just you just exactly, it's just 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.280 you never stopped working, No, it was. It was a 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:28.200 good first year and then a good second year. I 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:31.760 got that movie The Replacements about a year after I graduated, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.680 and that was the one that was the big shocker. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.440 When I'm doing that movie and it's a you know, 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:39.559 one of those big studio films, and you think this 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.040 is the life, this is I'm just gonna leave this 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:43.560 set and I'm gonna go to the next one and 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.600 then the next one, and I'm on my way. And 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:48.079 then I didn't work for a year and I was like, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.200 oh no, this is this is not gonna this is 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.720 really gonna be tough. But you know, you get little 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:55.840 gigs here and they're a couple of little guest stars 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:59.200 on TV shows and you know a voice over a 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.480 commercial that you know, you know, it's just like you 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.720 someone told me a long time ago. You're like juggling, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.719 you know, all these different aspects of your career and 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.480 you've got to have all of them going and because 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.040 when one of them is down, the other one hopefully 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.640 is up and you just gotta keep juggling him until 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.600 something happens. So I got lucky. Yeah, you know, it 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:26.160 was grateful. So this British show called The Office comes 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.360 out with Ricky Gervais. Now did you watch the show 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.160 when it first came out available? So I had a 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.880 buddy of mine from New York who we did to 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.480 talk with Theater Festival another summer Stock. He called me 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.280 and it was like, David, you've got to watch the show. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.120 It's right up your alley. It's hilarious. And I hear 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.960 they're doing an American version of it. You've got to 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.280 get on it. And I was like, okay. And he 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.160 never does that. He never did that with any He's 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.240 never done a sinse. So you were like, done, okay, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.760 I'll just get on like I'll make a call. And 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.160 I did watch it. I was like, oh my god, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.080 this is genius. And I called my age and immediately 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.160 and my agent said, do you want to do that? 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.280 And I go what I think? Well, they're just looking 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:10.480 for like improv comedians, like I could improv at Juilliard. 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.320 What what do you talk? Just because I didn't go 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:15.280 to UCB or whatever doesn't mean I don't I can't 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:17.680 do that or don't want to do that. And in 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.560 his defense, at that point, that was like the third 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:25.280 incarnation of a British TV comedy that was somewhat successful 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.760 that they had brought over and they've bombed over and 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:30.960 over and over again, and so he was just like, here, 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:34.000 it's gonna be another one of those. And uh, I said, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.560 just get me an appointment. And at that point they 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.560 had already cast John and Jenna and all those guys 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.600 they were and so he called me back and he goes, old, 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.280 there there they have the part of Roy. When you 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:46.600 want to go in for that, it's a guest star. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.200 And I said, yeah, yeah, get me in. So I 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:52.440 went in and gave my audition for all those guys 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:56.080 and which people can see on the internet, and they 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.400 called back and give me the job. So you know, 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.120 I've done a bud show, movies at that point, a 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.760 bunch of TV. But without a doubt, that's the thing 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.120 that everything we have shifted. It's like you get on 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.200 the number one show, even though it wasn't number one 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.080 right away, it took a long time, but you get 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.680 on a show that was talking about and all of 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:15.240 a sudden, doors open up and opportunities and talk about 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.600 that big break. But it's like I had a lot 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:19.200 of breaks along the way to get me there, and 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.600 luckily I had more breaks afterwards. You know, like you 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.040 gotta keep getting those breaks. They someone's got a smile 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.280 on you somewhere to to keep it going, because it 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.760 doesn't doesn't just keep happening. You know, Had you done 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:36.360 much comedy at all, or no, I've done comedic movies 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.560 at all, dramatic television. That was the irony the second 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.440 I did the Office, all of a sudden, everybody wanted 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.400 you to come to comedy and that was like, great, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.520 I'm happy to do it. And then the thing that 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.680 drove me crazy, and I don't I don't know if 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.000 it happened to YouTube. I'm sure it did. I would 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.440 walk into these auditions and they would go, I had 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.240 just improvate, like to do in the office, and I 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.360 would go, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm on 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.280 the office. So I can tell you for a fact, 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.119 this isn't all improved. There's actually really amazing writers that 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:08.720 are writing all these jokes and they're throwing them at us, 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.919 and you know what, they're even adding more jokes to 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.040 it when we do another take. This isn't all just 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:15.919 our genius that made that show work. Hello, guys, like, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.679 I'm happy to do that for you, But if you 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.399 want me to write your show, like, that's a different 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:26.400 job title. I'm happy to perform it. But but it's 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.639 but don't don't say like they do in the office. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.040 There was improv for sure, but the majority of that 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:42.879 was scripting. It really will scripting. It's a hard time 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.639 for hiring, so you need a hiring partner built for 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:51.520 hard times. That's Indeed. 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