1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast stick of Welcome back to 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis and I am joined in a room 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: that's filled with some heroes. To my left, Mr James 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Demon himself, it is Chris Wesley. Into my right, Greg Rosental, 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: what's up boys? Hey? N Um West wearing? He just 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: a white, plain white tea. Yeah, well, I didn't know 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: it's such a controversial choice. I thought that with a 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of people wear T shirts and jeans, and I 10 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: needed something that match my Huka Poo's hat with a 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: cap a hucka Who's cap and a shaved mug. Uh. 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: Looking like a much younger version of himself, I feel young. 13 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: I suggested you roll up a pack of cigarettes in 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: the right sleeve, but it's not there yet. I think 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: my dad used that maneuver in the sixties when everyone 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: says you look way younger after you shave your beard. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a sign keep out, keep the beard off. 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Keisha basically told me she was gonna break up with 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: me if I shaved the beard. I risked it anyway. Well, 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: now you got a locked in Yeah, now that she 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: has the ring on, she she's not gonna bail at 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: this point. It's a defined gesture on my part. Absolutely. Yes, 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: it is a minicamp week in the NFL. Uh so 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: as promised three podcasts this week. Uh, you know, maybe 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: some waffling before the show, Greg, whether this was necessary 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: once we got to today Monday, But you know, we're 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: in too deep. We had that there wasn't It never 28 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: became a serious time we are now that you're talking 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: about it again. In theory, we could have still lopped 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: off one at the end. It never Yeah, it never 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: became a serious topic. But there was this idea like, well, 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: we don't have to do three shows, but we told 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: the audience we would, and that's what we'll do. You 34 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: guys want it right listeners, Greg wearing his fancy boy blazer, 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: which means he's going on television today and little networks 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: Greg Rose at all today. Now we've got to be 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: very quiet up in the clearing. We have the increased 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: belie in a film networks, Greg Rosenthal, Oh, scan it awaite, 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: Greg and I look like we're doing two different things today. 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm like right in between you two guys with my 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: white guy Polo Um got some news to get to 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: uh including all right, now that we're getting to mandatory minicamp, 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: this is when you have to be there. That's mandatory. 44 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: That's what it means. So when somebody doesn't show up 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: the mandatory camp, then it's time to talk. And there 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: is a big, big defensive star in the NFC, then 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: that that is not with teammates. Also, uh oh, it's 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: back a couple of years hiatus, I believe, mostly just 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: because I forgot about it and now I remembered it again. 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: It is the Superstar Club. I didn't even know there's hiatus. Yeah, 51 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: we got a lot of updates. We definitely didn't do 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: it last year. No, the last time it was a 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: written piece on this website was two thousand fifteen. Now 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: it's back, so just assume that it did happen those 55 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: those years, so we don't need to do housekeeping. Just 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: imagine it from two thousand and seventeen into two thousand 57 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: and eighteen. What is the Superstar Club. We'll get into it, 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: but all you need to know most importantly is that 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: it's a zero sum game. That's where it gets tough. 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: I think it's smart not to do it every year. 61 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: It would change too much I think revisiting every two 62 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: or three years is is a better way to do it. 63 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: The flip counterpoint, there's not nothing to write about right now, 64 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: so it's a good it's a good one to have 65 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: in the holster every May. And you know, there's a 66 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: lot of things that are good to have in the 67 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: holster come May in June. Yeah. Um, all right, so 68 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that and uh, let's get to 69 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: it though. Oh and Mark, of course, he slipped through 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: our fingers again, back into the wilderness, the urban jungle 71 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: of Los Angeles West southern last. I saw him, Colleen 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: and Tampose and Mark, yeah, and Keisha. We all met 73 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: up and Mark was in. Good for him, Good for him? Yeah, 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: he was in. Good for him. He looks fresh and down. 75 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: He looks refreshed. It just started. He's the one guy 76 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: that gets less refreshed as the vacation goes along. Right now, 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: he's good. Yeah, Well, let's check in next We'll be 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: very taggard by next Sunday. But hey, then he lives 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: his life. That's how he does it. All right, Let's 80 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: do some news. What was that the gay Pride parade? 81 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what that was lindsay there was a 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski cheering for his horse at the end of 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: the Yeah, Gronkowski, the horse came in second. I believe 84 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: he did, and he bet on him. Him and all 85 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: of his friends did an idiot and they made twelve 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: d bucks off of that because he was he was 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: a long shot and he placed. So why is grond 88 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: complaining about money? Then? Yeah, twelve rocks. I just really 89 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: like the part where he was yelling for him to 90 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: run faster. All right, that's good. I like that they 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: call the horse Rob. They don't. They don't call him Grogkowski. 92 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: I read it. They all call the horse Rob. Easier 93 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: that way, nobody even calls Rob Rob. Yeah, exactly, all right. 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: To the news, Earl Thomas, the All Pro All Pro 95 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: Seahawks safety, will not be participating in any team activities. UH. 96 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: The All Pro safety addressed frustrations with this contract situation 97 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: on Twitter Sunday. I will not be attending the upcoming 98 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: mini camp or any team activities until my contract situation 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: is resolved. And West twenty nine years old. He's entering 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the final year of his contract, UH, making a base 101 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: of eight and a half million. No contract talks planned 102 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: so we are this is what you call an impass 103 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: it right the first time. Uh yeah, I think at 104 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: at age twenty nine, this is his probably his last 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: chance for a mega contract. Um. And it's interesting because 106 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: the Seahawks were shopping him. They had a chance to 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: do a deal, and they tried over the draft break, 108 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: but they couldn't agree on a deal with the Cowboys. 109 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: UM So now you're wondering what what's gonna happen. Is 110 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: he gonna even show up the training camp? Is he 111 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: gonna play in week one? I don't know. This is 112 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: a mini camp holdout story that is more interesting than 113 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: most because I think there's a chance here he's not 114 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: on the roster week one, whereas most of these you 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: just kind of assume it's all gonna get worked out. 116 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: And I think you have to recognize that there's a 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: possibility that he gets traded between now and then, because 118 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: if he sticks to those words he said, I don't think. 119 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be on the team. I 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: think he'll either back off of that or they'll trade him. 121 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: I struggled to like get emotionally invested in the situation, uh, 122 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: because I do feel like he's gonna be there. He's 123 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to make something happen. But do we think that 124 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: he's willing to not play? And maybe maybe that's true, right, 125 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: it's passing up that would be seen up a lot 126 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: of money. It's a different situation. Uh, And I'll just 127 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: throw this into the news. Why not another mini camp 128 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: hold out? Khalil Mack's reported today that he's not gonna 129 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: show up. And I think that one he's got enough leverage. 130 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: That's the one I expect if I had to pick one, 131 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to last deep maybe into training camp. And that's gonna 132 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: be something we'll get sick of talking about, is the 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. But he's got a lot more leverage, I think, 134 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: than than Earl Thomas does with Seattle, because as great 135 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: as he is, I think they're they've kind of drawn 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: their line in the sand and said, sorry, we're not 137 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna We're not gonna pay you. So the Seahawks just 138 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: don't want him on the team next year. Is that 139 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: what we're saying, They don't want to be a part 140 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: of their future. I don't know. It's a little surprising 141 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: and it's just kind of part of the m O 142 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: right now. There was also a tweet over the weekend 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: from Camp Chancellor. People started reading into It's like this 144 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: whole Seahawks overhaul has been such a big story this offseason, 145 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: and it's not necessarily over. We haven't found out the 146 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: final word on Chancellor and Earl Thomas is gonna just 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: be hanging out there. Uh. In other news of Dallas, 148 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys have locked up one of their most important and players, 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: right guard Zack Martin, signs a six year extension through 150 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: this from rap Sheet, it makes Martin the highest paid 151 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: guard with the largest guarantee at his position in the 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: history of the NFL, passing Andrew Norwell. Uh. Twenty seven 153 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: years old, Martin uh widely considered one of the best, 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: if not the best, interior alignment in football. Guy is 155 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: rock solid. He never misses a game. He's everything you 156 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: could have asked for with a first round pick, which 157 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: he was in two thousand and fourteen, and he's in 158 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: Dallas for the long haul. Greg Za, Yeah, he's a 159 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: guy watching all or nothing that you realize is such 160 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: an important part of that team, and everyone around that 161 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: team says that it's amazing. Ross Tucker pointed this out 162 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter. He was a left tackle on college and 163 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: then he just decided that they had him switch at 164 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: the pro level. Now, he's just the best player at 165 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: his position basically since the moment he entered the league. 166 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: There are no like Anthony Munos Walter Jones level tacks 167 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Right now, this guy might be the 168 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: best offensive lineman period in the NFL. I mean, Tyron 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: Smith if he's healthy and right, but it's been maybe 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: a year and a half since that's actually happened to me, 171 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: is at that level. So the fact that you have 172 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: two of those guys on the same team, and by 173 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: the way, also yeah, one of the best centers in 174 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: the league right in a great center too, is it's 175 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: pretty It's pretty amazing. It's amazing that like the leverage 176 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: I guess of Mini camp was enough to get this 177 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: done because he was he had been skipping work all 178 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: off season as well and was expected to miss mandatory 179 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: mini camp, but they got a mini time. Moving on, 180 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: some bad news out of Houston. Safety Andre Hall has 181 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: been diagnosed with Hodgkin lymphoma, the team announced on Friday. 182 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Uh he is currently discussing treatment options um and a 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: very difficult situation for obviously, the Texans and Hall. Uh. 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: He's been a mainstay in Houston on their defense. He's 185 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: appeared in sixty one games thirty eight starts over the 186 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: past four seasons. And this is the same Texans team 187 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: that last year was through a similar um situation with 188 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: offensive lineman David Quisenberry, who battled not Hodgkin lymphoma for 189 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: four years four years. So, uh, last week we learned 190 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: about the cancer diagnosis of Giants GM, Dave Gettleman and 191 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: now Andre Hall West. It just goes on and on 192 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: and on. Yeah, chief safety Eric Berry ended up missing 193 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: about a year when he had I believe he had 194 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: a Hodgkin lymphoma, but he he had cancer and he 195 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: was out about a year. So maybe how can come 196 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: back next year. Uh. They did go out and sign 197 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: Honey Badger and they drafted Eric Reid's brother, Justin Reid 198 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: to play safety, so they have some depth there. It 199 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: makes you wonder though, if they would think about signing 200 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: Eric Reid. He's out there, Kenny Vacari is out out 201 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: there too. I mean I saw this news and you feel, 202 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, just terrible um for Andre House in the 203 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: middle of a really good career, kind of worked his 204 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: way up the hard Way is really respected there as 205 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: a solid starter I in in my mind also it's 206 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: into the Texans because he that's a thin position. I 207 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: know they did have a draft pick there, but there's 208 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: these good safeties out Trey Boston, Vicaro, Eric Reid. Maybe 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: maybe you have the Red brothers. Uh in our thoughts 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: obviously go out to Andred's that's tough. But he had 211 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: a very inspirational um Twitter message which sounded which sounded 212 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: like he was ready to take this thing on. UH. 213 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: In other news, Rob Gronkowski, Uh, this weekend, it popped 214 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: up trade rumors surrounding the all pro Patriots tight end 215 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:35,599 Speaker 1: of course Gronkowski, you know, squabbling over money with the Patriots, 216 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: and Uh. Gronk actually spoke on these rumors at a 217 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 1: youth event this weekend, calling anything connected could uh Gronkowski 218 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: and trade talk as quote fake news, fake news the 219 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: trade by the way, Uh, the report, where did it 220 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 1: come from? The original report that kind of picked up? Well, 221 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: was it? Adam kirked? Well, it started. It started from 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: the same Reddit guy who basically was a day ahead 223 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: of the Julian Edelman suspension, and then he he put 224 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: something out there that like, oh, there's buzz building, you know, 225 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: builds building for another huge Patriots story. Didn't say what 226 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: it was exactly, and then people just I got text 227 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: from multiple Patriots fans it was like a Gronk getting 228 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: traded to any and this is before this freelance right 229 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 1: or even put anything out there. I didn't know why 230 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't. I wasn't familiar with him. But I did 231 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: see that the Patriots released a strong statement saying it's 232 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: totally false, and that all the best reporters that covered 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots, and there are a million of them, didn't 234 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: report anything, and a few of them said it's absolutely 235 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: not true. And by the way Gronk and Belichick were 236 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: talking at Belmont on Saturday, was like Belichick was just 237 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: hanging around some park Friday afternoon. It didn't seem like 238 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: any of it really made a lot of Let me 239 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: share what the reporting was from Kirchen from multiple sources. 240 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: Here's what I have read guarding the trade. Rumors told 241 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: Belichick wanted to trade him offers on the table with 242 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: both the Titans and forty. Imagine Kronk and Jimmy g 243 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: by the bay. Uh, he and Robert Craft had a 244 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: closed door meeting to discuss this is highly detailed, by 245 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: the way, for a baseless report. Tom Brady threatened to 246 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: retire to feel, then through and then craft mixed it. 247 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: Following up off that was a statement from Stacy James, 248 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: who runs pats PR. I would say with the utmost 249 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: confidence that none of that is true, none of it. 250 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: But they also denied everything that Wickersham reported a few 251 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: not not as not as hard. In fact there was 252 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: there was a pretty big difference in fact they so 253 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: so I sort of read into their handling of the 254 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: Wickersham story as they were admitting certain parts of it 255 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: it was a little different. This. They came out as 256 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: strong as humanly possible to say it was. They could 257 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: have said physically injured the reporter, like as the part 258 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: that made me realize it was almost certainly nonsense. Is 259 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: some other guy who runs like a pat site said, Oh, 260 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: that's all the these is the exact same information I've 261 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: heard too, And so like the exact same rumor has 262 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: gotten into two people who aren't necessarily as experienced as reporters, 263 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: and that's they've heard the exact same thing. I believe 264 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: that they heard the exact same thing. But like I 265 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: think this Patriots off season is taking a life of 266 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: its own. People are I haven't seen anything quite like this. 267 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: People are so eager and so sick of the Pats 268 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: to be over. And I get that that just now, 269 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: things are just popping up out of just because people 270 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: wanted to happen. We were trying to decide whether to 271 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: write the story or not, and we checked in with 272 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Mike Garafolo, who basically said, stop bothering me with fake stories. 273 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: There's nothing to this. When they come out that strong 274 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: against it, how about this, I choose to believe it. 275 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't make me right, doesn't just fun? 276 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: I like it. I enjoying it. And uh, you know 277 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Gan Gronk, I by the Bay. He was having 278 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: a great you know, minicamp last week. Rob Gronkowski, Uh 279 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: talking Greg I bad bad podcast hosting by me. But 280 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I want to talk about this. Uh this calumnist for 281 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: the Detroit Free Press, Carlos Monarez who had some hot 282 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: saucy takes on the Lions and Matt Patricia. I know 283 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: you threw it out there, something to talk about? Is 284 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: it bad podcast? I didn't read it. I didn't read it. 285 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: If you could set it up and West and I 286 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: will I read it, West read it, but he said 287 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: he only made it through about three pairs. That was 288 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: a different one, that was different lines. That was the 289 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Lions are going to the Super Bowl artist. I think 290 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: the lead of it really gets to the heart of 291 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: the matter. Uh. And the lead is from Carlos Monterez. 292 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia is in danger of losing his players. That 293 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: was my main observation from three days of minicamp this week. 294 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: Destroit Lions rookie coach want things his way done his way, 295 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: and his way means running as punishment, lots and lots 296 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: of running. And then you if you went on from 297 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: there and you were expecting, okay, where is he going 298 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: with this? And there was nothing more there was. All 299 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: he had was that Patricia has them run laps and 300 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: sprint sometimes as punishment. That was it. That was it. 301 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: And he had one quote from a young player who 302 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: said that they were all grown ups, but that he 303 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: had later had to clarify because the player said, all 304 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: we were talking about was that I'm a rookie and 305 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: these guys all know everything. We weren't talking about the 306 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: running at all, and so it was it was a 307 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: hot take, extraordinary right there. Patricia's tactics smacked of amateurism, 308 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: and even though it was generally downplayed as an innocuous 309 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: slap on the wrist, I can guarantee you most players 310 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: don't care for it. Is it unique to have players 311 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: run at the NFL level Like I I definitely thought 312 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: like the Patriots must hate it because they have they 313 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: have this little hill that they always talk about. They 314 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: running up and down the hill. He's losing his players. 315 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: This guy needs to find a new line of work 316 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: because column writing is not in his future. This is 317 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: one of the worst columns I've ever read. It's totally 318 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: brain dead, but it's also boring. It doesn't suck you 319 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: in like usually a columnist tries to go for a 320 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: controversial take that's spicy. There's nothing spicy about this. It's 321 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: just boring. I think our boy here should reach out 322 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: to Adam Kirkchin. You want to report a fire bomb? Yeah, Monrez, 323 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: I think you might have to go. You know, maybe 324 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: you can become an interior design writer or something, because 325 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: I don't think sports columnist is in your future. You're 326 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: saying keep him in the newspaper industry to different departments. 327 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: Ostensibly he's a writer, just not a columnist. He's worked 328 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: his way up yet a columnists. That's a big spot. 329 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: He should work his way back down. I mean he 330 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: he said he was mostly worried for the roster bubble players, 331 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: that that this extra running that they're doing, that's taken 332 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: up reps that those roster bubble players could be getting 333 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: on the roster bubble players are used to, he said, 334 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: being berated by their position coaches not being forced to run, 335 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: as if that's better. And I don't like this grown 336 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: that's grown man like these are grown men like you got. 337 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: It's conditioning plate to pay to play football. And by 338 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: the way, it's the same sport where coaches like make 339 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: fifteen speeches to them every single day, teaching them at 340 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: treating them like children, whether it's the middle of June, July, September, anything. 341 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: All right, let me just also say that I also 342 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: agree and believe in the reporting here and the analysis. 343 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: I believe that people think I think Patricia is in 344 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: danger of losing his team. So, uh, what's his name again? 345 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Carlos hashtag? I stand with Monarez hashtag I stand with Kirk. 346 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: I do he did take it another step. He said 347 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: that he did admit the running on its own won't 348 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: lose the players for Patricia. But but you have to 349 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: assume if he's using these tactics in front of reporters, 350 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: he could be using other tactics that are that are 351 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: que equally distasteful to players, like paining them. This is 352 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: this article is so I would have cut that graph 353 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: even um, I'm standing Monarez, I would have cut that. 354 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: You're buy him with a lot of people are sellingrez alright, 355 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: Ben finally in the news, Oh a trope alert. You 356 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's entering his third year in 357 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're at a time of transition on some 358 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: level with the Dallas Cowboys. Jason Witten does Bryant no 359 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: longer there. Someone's got to step up and be a 360 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: vocal presence in that locker room. Maybe it's gonna be 361 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Zeke this According to Gary Brown, running backs coach of 362 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, Elliot's been much more vocal. It's good for him. 363 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: He's in his third year coming out of here being 364 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: a more vocal leader, not just a leader by what 365 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: he does on the football field. I think that's really 366 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: good for him and really good for our football team. 367 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: That's a big one. Greg, that's a big e. This 368 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: is this is one of the top choke alerts. It's 369 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: a third year. I've said that a few times, but 370 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm serious. It's always like a third year player 371 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: and a couple of veterans have just left the team, 372 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,479 Speaker 1: and it doesn't necessarily need to be a third year, 373 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: but it could be fourth with whatever. But it's like 374 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: now he he hasn't been really the talkative type before, 375 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: but he's gonna step it up, start talking because it 376 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: could even be like an eight nine year old and 377 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: you're veteran and then they just need somebody to be like, 378 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: oh yeah, he makes sense. It's like veterans left, someone's 379 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: got a talk, can you It's hard to find a 380 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: less verifiable or less meaningful statement from a position coach 381 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: than this one. It's not how can you even verify 382 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: if he's really being more vocal? Right? He see? Like 383 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: the running back coach caught him in a couple of 384 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: conversations with other players. Is that what happened? You've you've 385 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: you've watched all or nothing? Dan Zeke strike you as 386 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: a He didn't seem like he would be the first 387 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: guy that would. They have plenty of vocal leaders. I 388 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: don't know if they need another, but sometimes I see 389 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I wondered while watching All or Nothing whether Zeke 390 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: hat Sun poisoned, but that way not the most vocal guy. 391 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:05,239 Speaker 1: Not now ever, really seemed to be wildly engaged the surrounding. Well, 392 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Yeah, there was a lot going on 393 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: with Zeke last year. Obviously that was on his mind, 394 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: and so I gave him a little bit of I 395 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: gave him a pass for that, but it it often 396 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: seemed like whenever the running backs coach was speaking to 397 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: him that he wasn't particularly paying attention. Yeah. Gary Brown 398 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: was the coach last year as well, and um, I 399 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: seem kind of in his own planet, which happens with 400 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: twenty three year olds that are incredibly good at what 401 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: they're doing. I have two more episodes to go, but 402 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: in the first five or six episodes, I have not 403 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: heard Zeke Elliott respond to anything Gary Brown said to 404 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: him with more than a shrug or an inaudible groan 405 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: or a one word answer, right, Gary. Gary would go 406 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: like two minutes trying to make this big point and 407 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: then kind of ask Zeke all right, what do you 408 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: think it be? Like? All right, the position he plays, 409 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot of learning he 410 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: has to do. But I do, like Gary Brown on 411 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: all or Nothing comes down. He's a great guy. Uh 412 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: And I also believe him here too as well. So 413 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm also going to get it on this that Zeke 414 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: is gonna be a fireball. You remember how Deaz would 415 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: go mad on the sideline. That's gonna be Zeke for 416 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. That's what's happening in the news. Okay, this 417 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: is this is actually, this is where this is. This 418 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: is why we get paid the big bucks because who 419 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: else in June on uneven, Christ Sake doing a football 420 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: podcast on June level. That's where we're at right now. 421 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: And you know what, We're not gonna take a you know, 422 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: like a Matt Patricia penalty lap and just jog easily 423 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: around the perimeter. We're gonna dive in hard and go 424 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: into the Superstar Club. And we are going to bring 425 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: people into the Superstar Club. But more importantly and a 426 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: much more difficulty scale, like when you look at it, 427 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: like how hard it is, We're gonna have to take 428 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 1: some people out of the Superstar club. Think about that, 429 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: because this is a zero sum game. So if you 430 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: look at the NFL as the superstars of the NFL, 431 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: is like a club, a nightclub. We have to be 432 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: the bouncers at the door with a clicker in the hand. 433 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: One gets in, somebody's got to go. It's a zero 434 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: sum game. Not easy. I mean, imagine an NFL great 435 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: and being told by the likes of me to get 436 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: out of to get out of the club. What are 437 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: they gonna do? They gotta go? I mean, what am 438 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: I gonna do if they if they really don't have 439 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: to go ahead and have many actions. You just can't 440 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: stay here. And that's that's the truth of it. So 441 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: let's go around the room a couple of times here, West, uh, 442 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: And this is hard work. This is difficult work. This 443 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: this is humbling and also very exciting for the gentleman 444 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: that are joining the most exclusive of all clubs for 445 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: active NFL players, the Superstar Club West. Take it away. Well, 446 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm going wide receiver here and I actually thought about doing. 447 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper is this year's Todd Gurley changing coaching staff. 448 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: The talent is obvious, Like even when he's slumping, you 449 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: can tell that he's talented and he could do it. 450 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: John Gruden has said he's going to be the centerpiece 451 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: of the new offense. And then I see a tweet 452 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: from Marcus Grant says he saw a picture of a 453 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: Mariy Cooper who was definitely not in the best shape 454 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: of his life right now. So I had to go 455 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: away from a Mariy Cooper Michael Thomas. Wow, fantasy lives 456 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: on Marcus Grants. So we're going with a receiver who 457 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: I think is better than a Mariy Cooper Anyway, Michael 458 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: Thomas of the Saints. Only two wide receivers, Jarvis Landry 459 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald, had more receptions than Michael Thomas last year. 460 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: And those two guys play on the inside in the 461 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: slot where it's just really short passes, quick passes. Michael 462 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Thomas is out running like an intricate route tree on 463 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: the outside getting open already. Drew Brees is number one receiver, 464 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: and I think this guy is ready to jump into 465 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: that like top six or seven wide receivers in the 466 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 1: NFL Superstar Club. And he's such He's in such a 467 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: great spot for even though they haven't always had that 468 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: number one receiver that put up monster numbers. I think 469 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas he's already started to change that and it's 470 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: only going to continue. And one impression I got having 471 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: covered a couple of the Saints games last year, is 472 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: that he has the respect I think of his teammates 473 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: and in in his locker room as like the baddest 474 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: guy in there. As like one of the if not 475 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: the hardest workers there. As like a young guy who 476 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: works out, works just about anyone and has has the 477 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: body to prove it, because that dude is a specimen. Uh. 478 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: And just again make it clear before West tells us 479 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: who's got to go now, Michael Thomas. What West is 480 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: saying was entering this time last year, Michael Thomas would 481 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: not have been a superstar club guy. It's now that 482 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: he makes that jump and it goes the same the 483 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: other way. Somebody that the football COGNISCENTI may have viewed 484 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: as a superstar last summer. Now things have changed. Who 485 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: is no longer a superstar? Yeah? I think the route 486 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: is impressive rookie season, then breakout candidate, then superstar club. 487 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: There's there's a route you have to go here. I 488 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: don't wanna this is hard because it's one of my 489 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: favorite players in one of my favorite players in NFL history. 490 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: When when he was entering his third season, he was 491 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: a lot like Michael Thomas, worked his butt off, the 492 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: hardest working guy in the locker room, respected, probably one 493 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: of the most respected players in NFL history. Larry Fitzgerald 494 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: woa wow, which is by the way, just for the 495 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: historians of the Superstar Club. The old zeus A booted 496 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: him out and he responded with three straight He didn't 497 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: take kindly to that. Yeah, he he had had three 498 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: down years basically in a row. Well, Larry did. He 499 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: politely declined and he stayed in the club. But we're 500 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit more strict and forceful this 501 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: time for Larry. Why was The numbers are there, but 502 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: it's I'm not gonna say it's not because he's not 503 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: good anymore. He's got great hands. He goes all out, 504 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: it seems, on every target to catch the ball. Um. 505 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: But he's gonna have a new quarterback. He's averaged ten 506 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: yards per reception over the last two years, which is 507 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: a really low figure. He's not making that many big plays, 508 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: and whereas he used to be a red zone monster, 509 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: the last time he had double digit touchdowns was a 510 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 1: half decade ago. So to me, Larry Fitzgerald is not 511 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: the player he used to be, and he's still a 512 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: good receiver, still deserves everyone's respect, but he's not a 513 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: superstar superstar which and everyone should know that does not 514 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: mean he's no longer a useful player player. He's a 515 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: great player who may be because of the situation. The 516 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: numbers are a little bit inflated because they need him, 517 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: and that's what Larry Fitzgerald steps up and he takes 518 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: care of it. But if he was on a in 519 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: a in a perfect team, maybe he's more of a 520 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: role player, a really good role player. Counterpoint to that 521 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: is like you could you know, if a team needs 522 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: you and you answer the bell. But I know what 523 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I agree with you. All right, Larry, 524 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: there you go. So in Michael's out, Larry Fitzgerald, I'm 525 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna stick with wide receivers because yeah, because I think 526 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: this must be a time of turnover at the position 527 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: in the club, and I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with 528 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: the same team actually and uh and I'm gonna go 529 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: with Davante Adams. It's time I think it's time for Davante. 530 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: I think everything is pointing in that direction. And of 531 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: course with the wide receivers, so much is tied to 532 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: the quarterback staying healthy and how good the quarterback as well. 533 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: He got the best quarterback ever arguably top three, top 534 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: five guy, and Aaron Rodgers who's healthy, hopefully stays healthy. Um, 535 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: and he's the number one guy. And why is he 536 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: the number one guy? Why is it? There? No question? 537 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Because the guy gotta say goodbye to Jordy Nelson. Uh, 538 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: he's leaving the superstar club. Not only is did he 539 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: leave the Packers not by his own choice. I think 540 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: he's going to a place in Oakland where it's going 541 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: to be difficult for a thirty three year old guy 542 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: who showed the signs of decline last season, at least 543 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: when Rodgers was out of the lineup. Um. And now 544 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: he's going to a new offense, a team in Oakland 545 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: that's influx a little bit. You don't know if he'll 546 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: be able to find a role. Maybe he does, maybe 547 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: he doesn't. Can he still be a very useful player? Yes? Absolutely, 548 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: Just like Larry Fitzgerald, I don't think anymore he I 549 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna strike fear in the hearts of 550 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: UH defensive coordinators anymore. Davante Adams, I believe can be 551 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: that guy and um if everything goes right in Green Bay, 552 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: which I feel like it's a qualifier that happens a 553 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: little too much in the off season with the Packers. 554 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: I do think Adams can be a guy that leads 555 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: the league in yards, that can score ten, twelve, fourteen touchdowns, 556 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: UH be a yak lonster. I think he is a stud. 557 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Two things about Davante Adams they're impressive to me. He 558 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: leads the NFL and touchdown catches over the last two seasons. 559 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: He's already that red Jim Guy. Um also a great 560 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: route runner. But I think we saw last year when 561 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: Rogers went down and Brett Hunley came in and was 562 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the league, Davante Adams 563 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: was still producing every week. That's impressive. It in in 564 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: with Huntley, it was about as impressive as it possibly 565 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: could have been. I mean, he was really the one 566 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: guy and I couldn't agree more Dan to the point 567 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: that you know, I need to come up with because 568 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: that I was gonna put Davante Adams in as well. No, 569 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: it's good, it's it's good. It shows that he deserves 570 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: to enter. And we're projecting a little bit. But part 571 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: of it was I went back and watched some of 572 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: the early season games with Aaron Rodgers last year, and 573 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: the timing that he has with Rogers, that Adams has 574 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: with Rogers is awesome. So you have not just unbelievable 575 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: route running where he can get open, you know, off 576 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage, but oftentimes when he's not open, 577 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: and Rodgers knows exactly where he's gonna be, knows exactly 578 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: what he's gonna do, and he just looks nice out there, 579 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: and and and I don't like the rest of the 580 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: receiver group that much overall, but I think that's just 581 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: gonna play in the Superstar Club's favor I think you 582 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: could see a fifteen hundred, sixteen hundred yard type of 583 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: c I think ryandalld Cops seems to be the number two. 584 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: There's number two and two eighteen. Does that? Does that 585 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: light up my Christmas tree? Not not in a huge 586 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: way anymore, but all the more reason for more targets. Yeah, 587 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm spinning because I was gonna it's funny you kicked 588 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: out an old packer. I was going to kick out 589 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: a new packer, Jimmy Graham out of the club, but 590 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: I guess I can't even do it. Also booted, Really, yes, 591 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: I feel like the opposite. Jimmy Graham's getting double digit 592 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: tds with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. But if what 593 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: Jared Cooked did in that offense, Greg and I disagree. 594 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Graham still got a lot left in 595 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the tank, and Greg thinks he's basically doesn't move well anymore. 596 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: All Right, so you're kicking out Jimmy grahams you want 597 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: to start there? Well, no, because I'm I'm scrambling with 598 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: this Davante Adams thing. I'm gonna go to the other 599 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: side of it. I don't have it. I didn't come 600 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: up with. I'm gonna go to the other side of 601 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: the ball. And uh, I'm gonna put in a guy 602 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned kind of west that the progression of great 603 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: rookie year breakout second year. Now he's into the club 604 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: and what this NFL needs, I believe right now. Uh. 605 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: With some of the more boisterous, entertaining cornerbacks who love 606 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: to talk about they're the best player in the league 607 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of you know, a little bit on the decline 608 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: here and saying goodbye, we need another one to come in. 609 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: And Jalen Ramsey is that guy. And I think he's 610 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: his level of play has established himself almost even as 611 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: a rookie. You could have put him in early, but 612 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: you had to make sure see what was going on. 613 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: And I think we saw it a year ago from 614 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. And the thing I like that he belongs 615 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: to the Superstar club is like, he's not gonna be 616 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: some wallflower, just like I have a couple of buy 617 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: a couple of drinks and sit on the side of 618 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: the club or whatever. It's like, no people are gonna 619 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: know Jalen Ramsey is in there. He's gonna carry himself 620 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: like he's been there the whole time, exactly sitting there. 621 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: My counterpoint would be he carries himself that way because 622 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: he already has been a superstar. That's what I agree. 623 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: I agree, But this is it's partly it's a little 624 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: bit perception. It's a little bit just national attention and 625 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: and everything, and coming off of that rookie year, Hey, 626 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: we're tough bouncers, you know, they even though maybe it's 627 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: played that he wasn't as you had to see him 628 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: do it again. How about this. The last thing that 629 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars need is another superstar on defense, and I think 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey already is that guy. But I thought about 631 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: Miles Jack for this that he was so impressive during 632 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year. That's a big step. Though. He 633 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: was so impressive last year, and there aren't many guys. 634 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: So we've got this guy like Rob Krunkowski. We've got 635 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: these tight ends who are basically unguardable by one player 636 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: because that's the evolution of the position. But linebacker has 637 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: not grown. Uh. It has not evolved to the point 638 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: where one guy can tackle or hang with Gronkowski coverage. 639 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: I think Michaels Jack has the best chance of becoming 640 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: Remember Miles Jack one DAYFC Championship game for the Jaguars 641 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: before the NFL stepped in, and wasn't even on the 642 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: field every snap for much of last year. So I 643 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: think you've got to take that step, but he he 644 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: was taking yeah, plus less he's gone. I think he's 645 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: gonna be an every down player and I think he 646 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: was tremendous in coverage last year. So you know how 647 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: it's it's one guy and one guy out zero some game. 648 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing something a little different position. Two guys in, 649 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: two guys out at the quarterback position. I'm just freewheeling now, 650 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: scrambled me with DeVante Adams. Ramsey's going in and so 651 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: is Marshawn Lattimore. They're just gonna go in together because 652 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: we realized, you know, we wanted to wait a year 653 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: extra with Ramsey a year ago. No, we're not gonna 654 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: do that with Lattimore. That's how good he was. He's 655 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: a great follow on Twitter, also has a lot of 656 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot of swagger. And then really the only show 657 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: of the year that that's important to get it. Uh So, 658 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: those two guys are going in because Lattimore is at 659 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 1: that level and just had a season I haven't seen. 660 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: And then at the exact same time, we're kicking out 661 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: to Seahawks Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman. Sorry no longer 662 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: Sea Hawks Sherman, but the Legion of Boom actually are. 663 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: They're asked to leave together. It's the toughest sign. German 664 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. Uh thirty wronk 665 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: side of thirty coming off an achilles injury to achilles 666 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: injuries in fact, including one where it was a full 667 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: on repair, and was still a good player, but not 668 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: quite at the level. So I think he probably expected that. Thomas, 669 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: He's like, wait, you're talking to me. I mean, he's 670 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: not expecting that. A drink. He's at the bar, He's like, 671 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: he's mingling and he's getting a tap on the shoulder. 672 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas has had some incredible moments in the last 673 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: two seasons. I don't think Earl Thomas has been quite 674 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: at the crazy level. Now we're talking a crazy level, 675 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: like beat up, first ballot Hall of Fame level, so 676 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: it's tough to stay at that level. But I don't 677 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: think he's been quite the same player the last couple 678 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: of years, and I think that's part of the factor 679 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: of why the Seahawks are anxious about giving him that 680 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: and he has been healthy. Are you enjoying as much 681 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: as me the idea of um, Earl Thomas getting tapped 682 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: on the shoulder in this club and turning around and 683 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: it's Greg telling him, I love I don't make the rules. 684 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: I think Greg would get punched, Yeah, I'd be Can 685 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: I throw somebody out there'd be in trouble. Can I 686 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: make uh not a plea because I'm not that invested 687 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: in all times. But but this is also controversial, okay um, 688 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: and also a little bit more even Stephen, because it's 689 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's a corner, but he's kind of a hybrid. 690 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: So Honey Badger, he's gotta step out the club. I 691 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: like Honey Badger. I'm not telling him anything. I think 692 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,439 Speaker 1: Honey Badger absolutely was in the club at some point. 693 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: The club is a better, more fun place with Honey Baker. 694 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: I agree. I love the man, but that's not what 695 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: this is about. Well, but you know what, bouncers sometimes 696 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: zero some game. It's true. I thought you were gonna 697 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: go Josh Norman. There I bouncers sometimes they play favorites. 698 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: Well it's not all fair, it's not all fair. And 699 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: the club and uh, he's just one of my favorites. 700 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: And who's better at the stage, Honey Badger, Earl Thomas, 701 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: why don't you start the Earl Thomas? Well, we had 702 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: the whole you know, legion of boom thinking. Really, I know, 703 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: but even firm is out there a good story. This 704 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: is some good work on your part, really, holding Greg's 705 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: feet to the fire on this, Earl Thomas is out. 706 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm sticking with it. I mean, Earl is gonna just wow, 707 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna destroy me. I feel like he's going to 708 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: hear about this and you might get a tweet this 709 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: is possible. Well, don't do it, though, just get stitches. 710 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: Do not Earl Thomas saying Greg kicked him out. That's 711 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: not what I was trying to do there. But if 712 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: it happens, it happens. Uh, West, you got another one. Yeah, 713 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: And you know, as much as Greg might be not 714 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to facing down Earl Thomas, I'm not looking 715 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: forward to telling Terrell Sucks he's out of the club. Yeah. 716 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean the club is a little bit of a 717 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: better place though. Yeah, Well I'm doing it for Mark. Yeah, 718 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: he's wanted Terrell Sucks had the club for a decade now, 719 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: although I think he's earned his spot really and he's 720 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: still a solid player. But this is this, I think 721 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: it makes sense what you're doing. He's gonna turn thirty 722 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: six this year, so Lyle Lyles Jack is in and 723 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: suggs it out. I'm gonna I was throwing Miles Jack 724 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 1: into that conversation, but I'm gonna go with a rookie 725 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: actually immediate smashing success. Ro Kwan, You're just putting a 726 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: rookie into the superstie. It's never been done before. I 727 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: put Adrian Peterson into the super Superstar Club before he 728 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: ever played it down in the NFL. I invented the 729 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: Superstar Club like three years ago. Well, I didn't call 730 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: it the Superstar Club, but you know, sometimes you know 731 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: a rookie is gonna be great and regular draft Nick 732 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: over here just has been diving deep into the right 733 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: So Miles Jack was just you were kind of throwing 734 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: him out there. But your actual formal application Smith, the 735 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: Bears rookie in and you're sending me out to else 736 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: sucks t zizzle t sizzle Balso Hard University. Yes, wow, Yeah, 737 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: I think that the Bears are basically linebacker. You of 738 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: the NFL. They had a long history of middle and 739 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: inside linebackers who are Hall of famers, Dick is Bill, George, 740 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary, ro Kuan Smith, Brian or Locker. This is 741 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: this is meant to be. And I think you know, 742 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: you see quotes like Eric de Costa, the Ravens assistant 743 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: GM talking about the Ravens plans, and you know they say, 744 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: if somebody like ro Kwan Smith slips to you, you 745 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: have to take him because he's basically a can't miss guy. 746 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: He's an instant success. And I think that's what's gonna happen. 747 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: And for one of the best defensive coordinators in the NFL, 748 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: Vick Foncio y'all um, let me alight Risky here, I'm 749 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,399 Speaker 1: gonna because he could be very good right away. Wait 750 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: are you gonna bounce the bounce? And he could be 751 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: like C. J. Moseley good. You know, he could just 752 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: be like a really that's why quite a superstar. I'm 753 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: not afraid let me let me throw something out there 754 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: because I had a rookie in mind. Is there down 755 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: to death? So he's not gonna now, I'm still gonna 756 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: be afraid of, yeah, a defender him coming through and 757 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: immediately being a superstar. Even J. J. Walk couldn't even 758 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: pull that off. Sometimes it takes a year or two. 759 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 1: I would say, Okay, it happen. And you're saying he's 760 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: one of those guys one position though. If there's one position, 761 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: and you guys are scientists, so I think you're gonna 762 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: guess this there's one marquee position in the NFL where 763 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: you can come out of college and even have your 764 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: best year ever in year one? What is running back? 765 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: Running back? I'm gonna get on the se Kwon Barkley 766 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: train again, and I'm gonna say he is going to 767 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: be a guy that comes to the league. Now, it's 768 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: okay to one position. There's one position where you could 769 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: say because you can have your best years Cooky more 770 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: often than I think any other position. Barkley hits the 771 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: ground running. He's a superstar. He changes the Giant's fortunes. Uh. 772 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: And I gotta I gotta kick somebody out. Uh. And 773 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: this is probably unfair because this guy, I think he's 774 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer already if not. If not, he's right 775 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: on the doorstep and maybe just needs even one more year. 776 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: But he's also heading on the wrong side of thirty. 777 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: And he's gonna be surrounded by a deeply inept offense. UH. 778 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: A quarterback in transition, offensive line issues, Leshawn McCoy. I 779 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: I don't even feel great about doing this because McCoy 780 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: didn't get an I know, the Bills made the playoffs 781 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,240 Speaker 1: and that was a great story. I don't think McCoy 782 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: got enough credit for that. He did you know that 783 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: Leshaw McCoy was responsible for exactly thirty three percent of 784 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 1: their entire offense last year alone in terms of yardage. 785 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 1: He had another outstanding season. But I guess I'm just 786 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: banking on father time a little bit, you know, gradual decline, 787 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: hashtag and just he's he's with a loser. It's not 788 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: a good set up for him. Hang on, we're being 789 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: told Leshan McCoy was already kicked out of the club 790 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago because he kept telling the 791 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: women what to wear, like telling women to meet up 792 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: at like what was that? It was like these like 793 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 1: mystery location pickup points, and then they were given outfits 794 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 1: or costumes. He was gonna give them their outfit to wear. 795 00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: He also want to be a great tipper in the club, 796 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: and we know that, so maybe we don't want that around. 797 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: So anyway, McCoy, I also I did think, you know, 798 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: is it fair? He did point out, by the way 799 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the story from two thousand fifteen, when 800 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 1: he showed up to training camp and they asked him 801 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: about the female only party, he did want to put 802 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: it out there for the record. There was no big 803 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: orgy or anything. Oh good, good, good, Well, it's good 804 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 1: that he cleared that up. Uh, no big orgy. Um 805 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: Marshall and Lynch also, I think maybe it's kind of 806 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: a cheat to say to move him out of the club, 807 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: But could you I would say, if you guys had 808 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: issues with the Shawn McCoy and Marshall would be better 809 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: in the club. And Marshall Lynch, Right, he's a superstar. 810 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's playing, but then you know what, 811 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 1: he's a big name. I could you could take either 812 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: of them out in my opinion, Uh, you know what, 813 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: I'll do a double two and Alvin Kamara and I'm 814 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: gonna work out Shady and Beast Lynches. Jersey can hang 815 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: on the wall of the Superstar Club, but he's no 816 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: longer welcome. I'm not sure what I feel or how 817 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 1: I feel about this. Uh say quas nickname. It's terrible. 818 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: It's been catching out suppressive leg muscles, so you know, team, 819 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: I guess some teammates and some fans have called it. 820 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 1: But he showed up uh to a celebrity softball game 821 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: this weekend. Landon Collins is celebrity softball game and he 822 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: put on the back of the shirt, so he's basically 823 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: he's now saying, that's my nickname. You know what, well, 824 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: I think some people did call him that, so he didn't. 825 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: He didn't make it up out of thin air. But 826 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: once he heard it, he likes it. He's got a 827 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: stick with you know. I support that because the one 828 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 1: thing you don't want to ever have happened to you. 829 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: You don't want to get muscle hamstered. And if you 830 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: don't get behind a nickname and somebody hits you with 831 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: the nickname, that just sticks. Like it happened to dugmar 832 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: I made up from myself and put it on the 833 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: back of my softball I can't s Let me ask 834 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: you a question. Do you think it's possible for running 835 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: backs thighs to get too big? I don't know. I 836 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: don't know. Bo Jackson, I think that the biggest thighs 837 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: ever and he was Campbell Dynamo. But my guess would 838 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: be no, because the only time you ever noticed him 839 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: are in like great players you stones Drew I once 840 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: interviewed in his second year in the league, and I've 841 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: never seen legs like that. He Barkley reminds me of that, 842 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: but yeah, younger Moriae Jones drew, but it wasn't too big. 843 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: It was like, just wonder about flexibility, Like, you don't 844 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: see fullbacks running the ball, They're not very flexible. It 845 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: sounds like a trope next summer about qu It's slimmed 846 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: down just a little bit and his more agility and 847 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: explosiveness than ever. I don't know, I could be making 848 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,439 Speaker 1: that up. It just feels like flexibility would be an issue. 849 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: As someone who has like no muscles, you know, anywhere 850 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: in my body, it's hard for me to really posit 851 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: a guest here. Uh. One, I wanted to throw one 852 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: more thing out there unless someone had won the Heat 853 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: Seeker they wanted to get. That was it. There is 854 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,399 Speaker 1: one issue I have with the Superstar Club in terms 855 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: of making it work. Everything all checked out just now, 856 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 1: but you absolutely and we absolutely have to add Carson 857 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: Wentz into the Superstar Club. Yeah. I feel like he was. 858 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: I feel like he got added during last season. Yeah, 859 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: so he has to do. He has to come in. 860 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: And the only time I don't think the Superstar Club 861 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: works is it's really hard to kick out a Superstar quarterback. Uh. 862 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, maybe it's just because the glamour position 863 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: that they play. But if I were to posit that 864 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: to you, gentlemen, if you had to kick somebody out, 865 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: because it's not something like this is a fringe guy, 866 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is arguably the top three quarterback in the 867 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: league right now, top five at the very least. Somebody's 868 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: gotta go this. Well, I don't know who's in there, 869 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: Like is Joe Flacco? Was he ever hurt? You know 870 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: this this hurts because it's not his fault. But I 871 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: think Andrew Luck's gotta go. That's what I was thinking. 872 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 1: He can come back in if he if he if 873 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: he regains that level. People don't know that just because 874 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: you get asked to leave doesn't mean you can't get 875 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: invited again next year. Yeah. I mean they play a 876 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: similar style of football, and right now you would have 877 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: to say Carson Wentz is the better at playing it. 878 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Larry Fitzgerald got kicked out and he just 879 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: went around the back and stuck back right back in, 880 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 1: right back in, And I don't see another I don't 881 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: even like the idea of kicking out Luck because I 882 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: really do like him. His prospects of this season, and 883 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: and and I think that he will remain a quarterback 884 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: that's a superstar. But I don't see anyone else that's 885 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: an option unless you want to get behind the Drew 886 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: Brees or is Derek Carr in the club? I don't 887 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: think so. I don't think you ever made it. I 888 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: don't think he's like he and Stafford are vying for 889 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 1: the right to to be the next one through the door. 890 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: I I was thinking about that because something you had said, 891 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: Greg that Stafford is kind of hit hit that level. 892 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: But I cannot and good conscious kick somebody else out now. 893 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,879 Speaker 1: I don't think Stafford. Stafford's gotta raise it up even 894 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 1: another level to get to get in. Jimmy g I 895 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: think that might have to do it for a little 896 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 1: bit longer. Yeah, he's got to show it, but he'll 897 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: make room for somebody. Tom Brady will go next year 898 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: because he's retiring, because he is just about done with 899 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: this and he's just about done. So some of these 900 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: old guys gotta step out of the way and let 901 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: some new kids in club. I almost Shaun Lee on 902 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: the shoulder. We had capacity kicked him in almost. Philip 903 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: Rivers rarely shows up, but but he's there. Yeah, he's 904 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, he's a superstar. He's a superstar. I don't 905 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: know about that. Interesting. Why do you want to kick 906 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: out Phil Rivers and stuff? I didn't think Phil Rivers 907 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,160 Speaker 1: was in the se I thought he was, would assume, yeah, 908 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,439 Speaker 1: he's just I thought this room would have him in. Yeah, 909 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 1: it's not even he got I've got to change the 910 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,359 Speaker 1: definition of SuperStar's gotta put in Phil Rivers in an area. 911 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: He's got a bud heavy in the corner. Ain't having 912 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: a good old interest. I don't think Rivers is in interesting. Okay, 913 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: there you go. There will be a written piece on 914 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot com going up tomorrow, uh Tuesday by the 915 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: Old Juice or the NFL Superstar caub I might even 916 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: include some of the offerings. The ray Kwon Smith one. 917 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty bold West. I got to think about that. 918 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: What are the consequences if I'm wrong? Like everything we 919 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: say in the off season, you know, when we do 920 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 1: this next year and we reserviced the article, I'll be ridiculed. 921 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: If he like doesn't play on third downs or something 922 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: and has three sacks, it won't look good. That's fair, 923 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: But who cares. You can hold my feet to the 924 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: fire at that point, steaks aren't extreme. I'll completely forget 925 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: about it. That's what happened with this club for the 926 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: last three years. So um, we'll be back on Wednesday. 927 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: Connie Fox will be joining us, so that will be fun. 928 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: And uh oh, should we do it? Should we bring 929 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: back the Wheel of Destiny? I love Wheel Destiny? Yeah, 930 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm gonna have to listen to the 931 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,760 Speaker 1: show again to lindsay, are you ready for the Wheel 932 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: of Destiny? Definitely, that feels like it's a very producer 933 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: heavy show, like you're gonna have to be at the 934 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 1: top of your game. I always am. Unlike Lebron in 935 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: games three and four, well, he did have a broken 936 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: hand for rom punching a blackboard because the ref stole 937 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: the game from By the way, that's a bad job 938 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: by Bron. I love Lebron more than anybody, but like 939 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: you don't probably come out after Game four and say, oh, yeah, 940 00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: I broke my hand because I was so angry because 941 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,280 Speaker 1: they stole game one for me. Actually, I do know somebody. 942 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: I do know somebody in Cleveland that UM had that 943 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: information after game one but was told not to report 944 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: it by the team. So has there ever been, whoever 945 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: this person was kicking himself. He's kicking him yeah, and 946 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 1: he's kind of a toady from the team. He who 947 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: has an involvement with the team where he Okay, so 948 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty extreme maneuver just to get a supporting cast. 949 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: What get swept? You got a supporting cast? I liked 950 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: it went over my head. Is that a West original 951 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: or was that one of those around the net? All right, 952 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,720 Speaker 1: we'll be back on Wednesday. Told them this Dan Hanson 953 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: signing off for The Mailman, the Old Boss, Laser and 954 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:53,760 Speaker 1: Lindsey Fulton behind the Glass still Wednesday,