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Speaker 1: of requests for second date updates, and when we're trying

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Speaker 1: one woman who says she had two dinners in one.

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Speaker 1: So I mean either she got ditched in the middle

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Speaker 1: just a hungry girl, Jeffrey, and that is okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: let's find out which one it is. Her name's Kayla out,

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Speaker 1: Kayla Hill. Guy, I can't wait to hear a first

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Speaker 1: dinner or second dinner was better. Well, let's just say

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Speaker 1: Is that what you guys did when you went out? Well? No,

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Speaker 1: like this Moroccan style chicken tijeen type this like cook

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Speaker 1: Do you have a something to talk? Well, what is

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Speaker 1: the second date update. Have you ever heard of that before? Yes? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get what John Mayer's had. Well,

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Speaker 1: why don't we just pull her up and ask her

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Speaker 1: the thing, Kayla, Like Lucas, these aren't questions you actually

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Speaker 1: we need to ask Lucas would you like to go

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Speaker 1: it's worth, I'm not taking that picture down, all right.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody has Johnny's Confidence or Johnny's Guitar moving ninety

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