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Speaker 1: later on more phone calls spend a little bit of
Speaker 1: time talking about Scottie Pippen. He's got a new book
Speaker 1: coming out and feels like he's not holding back when
Speaker 1: it comes to Michael Jordan. Michael took his shots, Scottie's
Speaker 1: taking his shots, and Scotty even made reference to the
Speaker 1: flu game and kind of rolled his eyes about, oh,
Speaker 1: the flu game because he was dealing with a Hernie
Speaker 1: aated disc. Scottie was, so, this is the finals against
Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz and Frank Eyesola is the host. That's
Speaker 1: the other boys show here with Scottie Pippen. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask you this, is it easier to play what a
Speaker 1: hernie aiated disc or to play with the flu? They
Speaker 1: always say the worst injury to have is a bad back. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't see many bad back games, but I do
Speaker 1: see flu games. Flu come on. And He's got a
Speaker 1: point there because nobody talks about and I was there
Speaker 1: and I forgot about it, the herniegated disc with Scottie.
Speaker 1: Everybody knew about Michael. You know what my thoughts are
Speaker 1: because I've run into a couple of people who have
Speaker 1: an alternate story with Michael with the flu game, and
Speaker 1: for decades it was the flu game and then it
Speaker 1: became food poisoning. Maybe it's somewhere in between. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: something else that's mixed in there. But it's better than
Speaker 1: saying I had a hangover. But Scotti rolls his eyes
Speaker 1: with the flu game. But you'll notice when Michael collapses
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, Scotty is the one
Speaker 1: who's holding him up in that moment. Yeah, Seed, that
Speaker 1: would be the brown bottle flute. And that's what they say.
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Speaker 1: P Show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com,
Speaker 1: Twitter handle at dp show. For arguably the most successful
Speaker 1: pro league in the country, the NFL has this unique
Speaker 1: ability to create a problem problem where none exists, because
Speaker 1: the latest example is really taunting. If the league had
Speaker 1: a haunting problem before this season, I don't think we
Speaker 1: knew it, but now there's an issue. Fans don't like
Speaker 1: seeing the minor incidents and the gestures turn into big penalties,
Speaker 1: and I do believe it's going to have an outcome
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I just do it's magnified because a
Speaker 1: player is more likely to celebrate after an impactful play
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. Fifteen yards is only part of
Speaker 1: the story. Taking away that play as they did to
Speaker 1: the Bears after a sack on Monday night, that's a
Speaker 1: big deal and a few things can happen here. The
Speaker 1: NFL can say we made our point and we're going
Speaker 1: to back off here, or players can amend their behavior
Speaker 1: and be extra careful about putting themselves in a position
Speaker 1: to get flagged. Or they can continue like this and
Speaker 1: risk a playoff game. Coming down to what taunting penalty,
Speaker 1: officials have a lot to do. I don't want to
Speaker 1: have them look at a play and it's open to
Speaker 1: their interpretation. They have enough on their plate. You add
Speaker 1: that to their plate and it could be a recipe
Speaker 1: for disaster, one that the league could be headed towards
Speaker 1: in the very near future. We spent a lot of
Speaker 1: time talking about this yesterday. The NFL Players Association was
Speaker 1: against enforcing this daunting rule. I heard from a source
Speaker 1: this morning about that because I ask where's the NFL
Speaker 1: Players Association stand on all of this? And my source said,
Speaker 1: I believe that they are still adamantly against trying to
Speaker 1: enforce taunting here, but it's going to I think they
Speaker 1: may back off a little bit, don't have any validation
Speaker 1: on this. I mentioned it yesterday that maybe as we
Speaker 1: get closer to the end of the season in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: that you sort of back off a little bit here
Speaker 1: because you don't want this to come down to, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, they called a taunting penalty, kept a drive
Speaker 1: alive for a team in the wild card game, cost
Speaker 1: the opposition the game, and all it had to do
Speaker 1: is the guy looked at the punter. So those are
Speaker 1: just things to keep an eye on. Diana Rassini just
Speaker 1: tweeted on the day in which he could make his
Speaker 1: final decision. Free agent Odell Beckham Junior is honing in
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs, Packers and Saints per league sources all right.
Speaker 1: Celebrity journalist Floe Anthony, who claims to have spoken to
Speaker 1: a source with knowledge from someone close to Wood, says
Speaker 1: Tiger is struggling, all right, So the Chiefs is interesting here. Packers,
Speaker 1: I thought the Saints, you know, all along the question
Speaker 1: is would he respect Trevor Simeon Packers Aaron Rodgers be
Speaker 1: a certain certainly a great way to deflect with all
Speaker 1: the negative headlines, and you bring him in and certainly
Speaker 1: makes them a more formidable team. Plus, if you're Green Bay,
Speaker 1: you want to keep him away from the Saints, a
Speaker 1: team that already beat you this year, and of course
Speaker 1: the Chiefs as well. But now it's one of those
Speaker 1: that you can play offense by playing defense, or play
Speaker 1: defense by playing offense going out and getting him. But
Speaker 1: if you're the Chiefs, you're the second option as a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, the third option when it comes to Us
Speaker 1: Kelsey and Tyreek Hill Packers. You're going to be the
Speaker 1: second option with Davante Adams with the Saints, you'll be
Speaker 1: the number one option. Yeah, McLevin. With the Chiefs, we've
Speaker 1: been criticizing Patrick Mahomes for not getting rid of the
Speaker 1: ball quickly and trying to make the big plays. If
Speaker 1: he has O'Dell there, won't he try to make big
Speaker 1: plays to Odell and maybe amplify the problem or will
Speaker 1: help if he ends up with the Chiefs. You can
Speaker 1: watch Sunday night. It'll be the Chiefs heading to Las
Speaker 1: Vegas to battle Derek Carr and the Raiders the AFC
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Speaker 1: what's poll question? We're gonna go with second hour. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a question for you. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want this as a pole college football. If you
Speaker 1: could wave a lone right now and make a twelve
Speaker 1: team playoff for this season, would you do it? Sure?
Speaker 1: Why not? Okay? I don't know. It's Derek counter argument, Well,
Speaker 1: we're getting We're going there anyway, so let's just get there.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's like, what what do we lose?
Speaker 1: What our integrity that we didn't live out a contract here?
Speaker 1: Who cares? Do you sense there's gonna be trouble this year?
Speaker 1: Narrowing it down to four only if Cincinnati is undefeated
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. If Alabama loses to Georgia,
Speaker 1: is Alabama going to stay in the top four? What
Speaker 1: if they lose by seventeen points? Alabama gonna stay in
Speaker 1: the top four with two losses? I don't think. What
Speaker 1: about is Oklahoma Notre Dame, Oregon going to stay in there?
Speaker 1: Oregon's got in Utah? I think in Utah that's tricky.
Speaker 1: Ohio State still has Perdue, who's knocked off a couple
Speaker 1: of teams. You still have Michigan Michigan State. Now, if
Speaker 1: Ohio State wins out there in I mean, there would
Speaker 1: be no doubt about that. Georgia could still lose the
Speaker 1: SEC title game. I don't take any I don't get
Speaker 1: invested in these ratings, rankings. I just don't not Now
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything to me. I just like to
Speaker 1: see sort of I would love for the committee to
Speaker 1: tell us, tell us exactly what you factor in here? Like,
Speaker 1: what does this mean? You know, Michigan State beating Michigan,
Speaker 1: but Michigan State lost to Purdue. Okay, it's like this
Speaker 1: flowtilla of rationelle Like, I don't know what it means today,
Speaker 1: what's the recipe? I don't know who knows, who cares? Like,
Speaker 1: we don't get this to see behind the curtain, And
Speaker 1: that's what I would love to at least find out.
Speaker 1: Just let us in. That's all, let us in on
Speaker 1: what you're factoring in and what you're not, what's important,
Speaker 1: what's not. Do I think they want Cincinnati in there? No,
Speaker 1: they don't. Do I think they want Notre Dame Oklahoma
Speaker 1: in there? Yes? Do I think they want Ohio State
Speaker 1: in there? Do they want Georgia in there? Yes? Do
Speaker 1: they want Alabama in there? Yes? There's probably six schools
Speaker 1: they want in there. But this stuff, it doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't even watch last night because that it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: And I've said before, I think Cincinnati there, they don't
Speaker 1: want to put him in to take them out. They
Speaker 1: just don't want to put them in. That's my feeling.
Speaker 1: They want eyeballs, they want big ratings, and these these
Speaker 1: Power five conferences. That's what you get with them when
Speaker 1: you put them in. But I would be curious if
Speaker 1: Alabama loses, and let's say they lose by a field
Speaker 1: goal to Georgia, do they stay in? And that will
Speaker 1: be tricky. That'll be tricky. I don't know what their
Speaker 1: rationale is going to be, but they're probably working on
Speaker 1: those scenarios. Okay, wait a minute, so all right, let's
Speaker 1: go over this again. Then it's like that they'll have
Speaker 1: this flow chart that just says, uh, the if Alabama
Speaker 1: loses by three, then like I say that, okay, yes, time.
Speaker 1: I feel like Alabama would have to lose by at
Speaker 1: least double digits for them for them to even consider
Speaker 1: knocking Alabama out of the top four. And I wish
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case, but I know, yeah, But how
Speaker 1: would you feel if you're a twelve win, no loss
Speaker 1: Oklahoma team and a two loss team gets in ahead
Speaker 1: of you? Oklahoma is not a wake Forest? Well no,
Speaker 1: this Oklhoona would get in not right now, Cincinnati, Ohoma.
Speaker 1: If Alabama has two losses, yes, Alabama is not in
Speaker 1: Olkclhoona would get in before Alabama would. They're still they're
Speaker 1: gonna they if they win out, they'll be in. Alabama
Speaker 1: won't be in. Not with two losses in an undefeated
Speaker 1: Oklahoma team, Power five conference, not ain't happening. Notre Dame
Speaker 1: wins out, Notre Dame's probably gonna be in is Oregon
Speaker 1: and gonna be able to hold on Ohio State if
Speaker 1: they went out. That's why you get caught up in
Speaker 1: all these scenarios and then you get all worked up
Speaker 1: and then you go, yeah, you're right, It doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything right now. Yeah, McLevin. Also, a lot of these
Speaker 1: teams are gonna lose, right, doesn't that always? I feel
Speaker 1: at this point of the air like there's a lot
Speaker 1: of l's coming up. Oklahoma's got some tough games covered up. Well,
Speaker 1: what if Michigan beach Ohio State? No, no, what I'm
Speaker 1: just saying. If Michigan, then if they beat Ohio State,
Speaker 1: Ohio States out. Okay. See, this is why I don't
Speaker 1: like to do the hypotheticals, and this is what they're
Speaker 1: asking you to do. This is a TV show that
Speaker 1: they had last night. All they want to do is
Speaker 1: get reaction. You never see an analyst on one of
Speaker 1: these shows goes, I'm good with it. And then meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you got the producer director saying, you got to say
Speaker 1: something like, we got twenty eight more minutes here, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? Come on, Joey Galloway, say something here. Yeah, ton,
Speaker 1: it's like that, there's no controversy here. But the Duke came,
Speaker 1: isn't tipping off for another half hour killing us? Come on,
Speaker 1: twenty six minutes and seventeen seconds left of content to
Speaker 1: get to. Yeah, I got no problem with the rankings
Speaker 1: about everybody's got to have an opinion on this. That's
Speaker 1: why I can't worry about this. I got other things
Speaker 1: to worry about that. Then Tom Brady he uh had
Speaker 1: something to say on his podcast to Let's Go podcast,
Speaker 1: and it has to do with the NFL playing seventeen
Speaker 1: games this season. I think it's pointless. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a terrible decision. So I don't like the fact
Speaker 1: that we're playing a seventeen game at all. I think
Speaker 1: sixteens plenty. You're eight games into the year and you're
Speaker 1: not halfway through, so that's kind of a little frustrating aspect.
Speaker 1: So we'll play it. It's there. A lot of guys
Speaker 1: probably miss games over the courts of this season anyway,
Speaker 1: so they probably don't play all sixteen, most guys. But
Speaker 1: you know, if you're fortunate to be able to make
Speaker 1: it through a season and you know you got to
Speaker 1: play the seventeenth game, I think there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that I would adjust to, you know, the offseason,
Speaker 1: you know, the regular season schedule. A lot of people
Speaker 1: know my feelings on some of these topics. So I've
Speaker 1: been pretty vocal about NFL issues over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years and some of the you know, things that
Speaker 1: are done that I don't necessarily think are in the
Speaker 1: best interests of the game. Well, i'd call out the
Speaker 1: NFL Players Association because they co signed on this. It's
Speaker 1: about greed. You know, it can't be you can't go
Speaker 1: you know, seven team games. You know, how can the
Speaker 1: NFL say they care about our bodies? You don't care
Speaker 1: about your bodies because you signed up for this to
Speaker 1: get an extra paycheck. Here, No, the NFL does not
Speaker 1: care about you, about your bodies. Done. They paid their
Speaker 1: billion dollar lawsuit, and now we move on. Because anybody
Speaker 1: who signs up for this knows what they're signing up for.
Speaker 1: They don't care. And seventeen games and this is crazy,
Speaker 1: And they're going to add an eighteenth game. Might not
Speaker 1: be while Tom Brady's still playing, but they're going to
Speaker 1: add an eighteenth at some point. Why why not? We
Speaker 1: spent a little bit of time talking about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He got fined less than fifteen thousand dollars, Packers got
Speaker 1: fined three hundred thousand dollars. We'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about that and Tom Brady's reaction to what Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: had to say. We'll take a break, we'll come back
Speaker 1: after this. We'll get to phone calls as well. Joe
Speaker 1: Montana and a little more than an hour from now,
Speaker 1: and it's sixteen after the hour here on the Dan
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Speaker 1: poll question for the second hour? Mclovin, Okay, I have
Speaker 1: a tricky one. I'm curious. Are your thoughts all right?
Speaker 1: It's kind of mean, but a bunch of teams did
Speaker 1: not take justin Fields or Mac Jones, the many quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Who do you think regrets at the most, Number six, Miami,
Speaker 1: number seven, Detroit, number eight, Carolina just found out Sam
Speaker 1: Donold's out. Number nine, Denver. Maybe put the Eagles in there.
Speaker 1: They trade up to ten. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: fit in. But really the question is does Carolina regret
Speaker 1: not taking quarterback? Miami? Well, I think they regret not
Speaker 1: taking a quarterback because they were in the sweep stakes
Speaker 1: for Deshaun Watson. To what degree I don't know, but
Speaker 1: they were trying to get in on the sweepstakes there.
Speaker 1: Could they get back in Yeah, yeah, in the off season,
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins weren't going to take a quarterback O
Speaker 1: this Yeah yeah, Detroit, you just got Jared Goff. I
Speaker 1: didn't see them taking a quarterback. I thought Carolina was
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback. I think they wanted to
Speaker 1: give Drew Locke one more chance, and they gave him
Speaker 1: a chance, I guess, and they found out that Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is a better quarterback than Drew Locke. A second
Speaker 1: round draft pick, but I would start out with Carolina.
Speaker 1: I think Carolina thought with that coach and Matt Rule,
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey coming back. You know, you can get some
Speaker 1: exciting offensive plays, got a pretty good defense, and maybe
Speaker 1: you can compete. But I would start there. You know,
Speaker 1: Denver needs a quarterback, and you're there in the West
Speaker 1: where you know, are the Raiders better probably, Chiefs better probably,
Speaker 1: and the Chargers better absolutely, So I would probably say
Speaker 1: Carolina to start with. Yeah, poet, But if you go
Speaker 1: back to the draft and look at the coverage, it
Speaker 1: was Zach Wilson and then it was Trey Lance, and
Speaker 1: then there was a tier, and it felt like Justin
Speaker 1: Fields had dropped a tier. Not now, I'm talking at
Speaker 1: the time. If you look at like Lands zero line
Speaker 1: and some of these NFL dot com guys, they were
Speaker 1: not super hot on Justin Fields. Right around draft time. Well,
Speaker 1: people were mixed on mac Jones too, And in fact,
Speaker 1: Joe Montana, who joins us Next Hour, said he thinks
Speaker 1: the Niners made a mistake trading up to get Trey Lance.
Speaker 1: That I you know, he said, I would have taken
Speaker 1: mac Jones. But you know, at the time there are
Speaker 1: a lot of people who thought, well, we haven't seen
Speaker 1: enough of Mac Jones. So those wide receivers they get
Speaker 1: open wide open, you know, is he going to be
Speaker 1: a right handed TWOA like? There was a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, conversation discourse on the negative of Justin Fields
Speaker 1: and also with Mac Jones. Yeah, MC club. Whitfield's a
Speaker 1: guy that might have been around too long because him
Speaker 1: he'd always been Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields one two
Speaker 1: one two one two and then something I don't know
Speaker 1: why did he fully played great in the end of
Speaker 1: his college career right well, but he was at Georgia
Speaker 1: and then he transferred, so it felt like he was
Speaker 1: around a little bit longer, even though he lost his
Speaker 1: job at Georgia. Do teams pick apart guys too much?
Speaker 1: Maybe overthink it. I think we always look for the
Speaker 1: negative instead. I want to know what you do well
Speaker 1: instead of what you don't do well. And I always
Speaker 1: use the same analogy, So I apologize if you've heard
Speaker 1: this many times. If you looked at what Steve Nash
Speaker 1: couldn't do, then you wouldn't draft him if you based
Speaker 1: it on this is what he can't do. If you
Speaker 1: based your draft selection on Steph Curry with what he
Speaker 1: can't do, then you wouldn't have taken him. Because we
Speaker 1: didn't know he's the greatest shooter of all time. We
Speaker 1: didn't know if he could handle We didn't know if
Speaker 1: he could guard anybody. We didn't know if he could
Speaker 1: physically stand up to the rigors that have been eighty
Speaker 1: two game schedule. Didn't know any of that stuff. Therefore,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have drafted him, and people didn't and people
Speaker 1: didn't draft Steve Nash. They talked themselves out of it.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a problem when it comes to quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Like what is what does Patrick Mahomes do? Well, it
Speaker 1: was you know, he tries to be Brett Farve, he's
Speaker 1: a gun slinger. You know, he didn't win. You know,
Speaker 1: they weren't a good team in college. Anybody can put
Speaker 1: up points in the big twel Like, this is how
Speaker 1: it worked. Deshaun Watson did everything that I need a
Speaker 1: quarterback to do, and he did it on a big stage,
Speaker 1: did it right in front of us, and that still
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. Yeah, how do you know which side
Speaker 1: you're talking yourself out of the good parts or the
Speaker 1: bad parts? You know what I mean? Like where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, he's got this, but he's got that.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, but if you saw Steve
Speaker 1: Nash's ability to direct, and granted he was at Santa Claar,
Speaker 1: but if you watched him, you saw somebody who had something.
Speaker 1: There was something about him that how he ran an offense.
Speaker 1: And you know, Steph Curry the same way, like you'd
Speaker 1: watch him and he go, how's he doing it? And
Speaker 1: we're still asking that question with Steph Curry. Where you go,
Speaker 1: how's he doing it? There's certain guys where you go.
Speaker 1: Now I didn't get Luca. Now I'm on record as
Speaker 1: saying I thought that Jaren Jackson Junior, the third uh
Speaker 1: you know, from Michigan State, was going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: the best guy out of the draft. I watched Luca
Speaker 1: play games in Europe and I still it felt like
Speaker 1: he was just getting a shot off and just getting
Speaker 1: by a defender. He was just and I thought, he
Speaker 1: gets to the NBA and those guys are far better athletes,
Speaker 1: he's still just getting a shot off in just getting
Speaker 1: by the defense. Trey Young. I thought Trey would be
Speaker 1: a good NBA player, and he's turned out to be
Speaker 1: a great NBA player. But you know, you're looking for versatility.
Speaker 1: It's like if you said, who's the best player out
Speaker 1: of this draft. I liked Evan Mobley from USC. I
Speaker 1: still do, and I think in three years he might
Speaker 1: be the best player to come out, you know, of
Speaker 1: this draft. But I'm looking at versatility, size, all the
Speaker 1: things that he does. But he plays in Cleveland, nobody's
Speaker 1: watching him. Yeah, Nickleban, John Morita rap was he can't
Speaker 1: shoot from the outside, right, Yeah, I still uttered that
Speaker 1: about him. But you keep saying he's like kind of
Speaker 1: almost MVPs. Well, he never stops like he attacks. There's
Speaker 1: something about that mentality. Now, it's not like Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: He keeps attacking, and he should not attack as much
Speaker 1: as he He's got to remember or somebody should remind
Speaker 1: him every single game. Russ, You're not twenty six years
Speaker 1: of age anymore. It's too late, by the way. That
Speaker 1: last game against the Hornets, that's that's where you go,
Speaker 1: that guy's going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: and he looked like he belonged on the bench. Can't shoot, turnovers,
Speaker 1: he leads the eight NBA and turnovers, trying to do
Speaker 1: too much. But there are times when you're watching and
Speaker 1: you go like, I still think Lonzo Ball is a
Speaker 1: really good basketball player. You know, he's not a great shooter,
Speaker 1: but I think that he's still a really good basketball player.
Speaker 1: I looked at LaMelo Ball from his freshman year in
Speaker 1: high school, and I said, he's undisciplined, but he's the
Speaker 1: best player out of the family. And he went to
Speaker 1: sixty seven and to handle and not afraid. He's got
Speaker 1: a respectable shot. He's fun to watch, you know, so,
Speaker 1: but look, I whiff on these guys all the time.
Speaker 1: Where I go, I think this guy's gonna be really good,
Speaker 1: then you go, I hope nobody remembers that one. I
Speaker 1: hope nobody was rolling on that one to record it. Yeah, PAULI,
Speaker 1: I went back and look at some of the Mahomes
Speaker 1: pre draft coverage. The word project is the big word. Jack.
Speaker 1: Don't expect much early, and you know he's an MVP
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. When they had Mahomes and Cliff Kingsbury, who's
Speaker 1: a candidate for Coach of the Year, they were four
Speaker 1: and eight, seven and six, five and seven and lost
Speaker 1: one ball game. Yeah, he was fun to watch, but
Speaker 1: you know, I can't sit here and go yep. I
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be great. I just knew he
Speaker 1: was going to be entertaining. I had no idea if
Speaker 1: he was going to be anywhere near this, because I'd
Speaker 1: watch these games. I'd watch his college games just because
Speaker 1: he was spectacular. He was fun. Team wasn't very good.
Speaker 1: But you know, it feels like the Big Twelve. I mean,
Speaker 1: Graham Harrell was great in the Big Twelve. Yeah, I'm mccleven.
Speaker 1: I've been reading some NFL draft stuff this year, and
Speaker 1: all the experts are just throwing their heads up in
Speaker 1: the air and saying they have no idea on quarterback. Yes,
Speaker 1: and rightfully. So that's where you don't want to. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to over commit with any of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: If somebody falls to you, great, but I wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to go up and get somebody, not at all. Somebody will,
Speaker 1: though it happens every single year, where somebody go, we're
Speaker 1: going up and getting Christian Ponder. No, no, no, yes,
Speaker 1: we're going up and get ej Manuel No no, no,
Speaker 1: but they do, all right. We talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. He went on Pat McAfee show. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna, you know, take the scalpel to everything. He
Speaker 1: said I think what he said initially is what he
Speaker 1: really feels. I think this is, you know, maybe trying
Speaker 1: to mitigate the damage here and go back to playing football.
Speaker 1: He had this to say to Pat McAfee yesterday. Look,
Speaker 1: I shared an opinion that is polarizing. I get it,
Speaker 1: and I misled some people about my status, which I
Speaker 1: take full responsibility of it. But in the end, I
Speaker 1: have to stay true to who I am and what
Speaker 1: I'm about. Okay, so you're sort of apologizing, but you're
Speaker 1: not because you're staying true to yourself, and I just
Speaker 1: want to know who you apologizing to. And this isn't
Speaker 1: on Pat McAfee. I'm telling you how I would approach this.
Speaker 1: But the rules would be different if Aaron came on
Speaker 1: this show, because I wouldn't let Aaron go forty two
Speaker 1: minutes uninterrupted. But Pat has a friendship with him, AJ Hawks,
Speaker 1: a former teammate. He got that platform. Without that platform,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get Aaron Rodgers. So I appreciate that he
Speaker 1: came on and gave us that content there. But if
Speaker 1: Aaron was on the show, I'd say, who are you
Speaker 1: apologizing to? Media? Fans? Packers? You misled some people who
Speaker 1: are the people you misled. I got to just be
Speaker 1: curious about that. He also just wants to get back
Speaker 1: to basically being a football player. I'm an athlete. I'm
Speaker 1: not an activist. So I'm gonna get back to doing
Speaker 1: what I do best, and that's playing bold. Like I
Speaker 1: shared my opinion, it wasn't one that was that was
Speaker 1: come to frivolously. It involved a lot of study and
Speaker 1: what I felt like was in my best interest from
Speaker 1: my body. But further comments, you know, I'm going to
Speaker 1: keep between myself and my doctors, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have any further comments about about any of those
Speaker 1: things after this interview, was Aaron Rodgers interrogated the way
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was. I'm just curious here. I just throw
Speaker 1: this out because we're always looking for how does the
Speaker 1: NFL handle these things, you know, Tom Brady deflate Gate.
Speaker 1: You know, did they demand his phone? Did they want
Speaker 1: to see emails? Do they want to know exactly, you know,
Speaker 1: what was he doing in the facility? Was there a
Speaker 1: doctor that he conferred with that he talked about in
Speaker 1: the end with the NFL, Like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: far they went with this, Probably not that far, but
Speaker 1: you know, they did get around to suspending Brady for
Speaker 1: lying to them. Did Aaron Rodgers lie to the NFL?
Speaker 1: Isn't that what this is about? Brady got caught lying
Speaker 1: in the NFL punished him. Did Aaron Rodgers lie to
Speaker 1: the NFL? And if so, you didn't suspend him? Let's
Speaker 1: see what else? Oh, Tom Brady? I had let me see.
Speaker 1: Do we have the sound here with Tom Brady? So
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is on his podcast Let's Go with Jim
Speaker 1: Gray and Larry Fitzgerald every Monday night, and he talked
Speaker 1: about the Aaron Rodgers situation. I figured out, I'm not
Speaker 1: commenting on Aaron Rodgers personal situation. Far be it from
Speaker 1: me to tell anyone what to put in their body.
Speaker 1: But by the way, jim My book, The TV twelve
Speaker 1: Method is available paperback wherever nutritional books are sold. And
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. I was I was close
Speaker 1: to a statement. Nope, just thought about it and obviously
Speaker 1: that's how I feel. And that's all I'm gonna say. Okay,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to comment on Aaron Rodgers situation and
Speaker 1: tell anybody what to put in their body. That's all
Speaker 1: Tom does. It's tell people what to put in their
Speaker 1: bodies with tb twel a good joke though. I like that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, but yeah, I don't want to tell
Speaker 1: you what to put in your body. Yeah you do, kale, avocado,
Speaker 1: no strawberries, no tomatoes. I mean, by the way, you
Speaker 1: didn't ask for it, but you got it. Todd has
Speaker 1: an O b J limerick, I do, Yes, you're ready, Yes,
Speaker 1: so O b J is free from the Browns and
Speaker 1: consign with anyone who's down his dad's video. Not cool
Speaker 1: tried to make Baker the fool. Now he can well,
Speaker 1: now I'll see I messed up here. You know what?
Speaker 1: Can I do that again? You give me a second chilter.
Speaker 1: I spelled one of the words, oh whoa, so ob
Speaker 1: J is free from the brown I put a P
Speaker 1: instead of an oho, and one of the words that
Speaker 1: from real. So ob J is free from the Browns
Speaker 1: and consign with anyone who's down. His dad's video. Not
Speaker 1: cool tried to make Baker the fool. Now he can
Speaker 1: bowl out not be a clown. For some reason, I
Speaker 1: type now he can ball put to and not be
Speaker 1: a clown. And that's what threw me off. That fail there.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a pretty good limerick until I said,
Speaker 1: now he can ball put you. That was actually your
Speaker 1: best one ever. Thank you, was the best one every
Speaker 1: time than you. Whoa ballut have the rockets? Whoa? Oh?
Speaker 1: Now he can ball out and not be a clown. No,
Speaker 1: he's a gift that keeps on. GI does, Yeah, he does.
Speaker 1: What's that mean referred Oby J's a clown? Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't buy the call. I don't know clowns antics over
Speaker 1: the years, I guess no, no netted me to be vicious.
Speaker 1: Thank you to welcome back to you in the studio. Uh.
Speaker 1: A couple of phone calls Gus in Los Angeles, Hi, Gus,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Good morning, mister plowets for well,
Speaker 1: this Scottie Pippin thing. Yeah, it seems like everybody or nobody,
Speaker 1: the millions of interviews he's doing is that's to him?
Speaker 1: The one question that I would ask him, and that is,
Speaker 1: what is your agenda here? What are you trying to
Speaker 1: achieve by talking about this stuff? Okay? Like, what is it?
Speaker 1: Why are you so bitter and so angry about this? If?
Speaker 1: He was on the Today Show a few days ago
Speaker 1: and he came out and he said there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as the greatest player of all time. That would
Speaker 1: be a disrespect to all players in the NBA and
Speaker 1: the ones that have played before. Really broke, really, but
Speaker 1: yet you want to be regarded as the greatest in
Speaker 1: your position. No, not gonna happen. So what is it?
Speaker 1: Are you better because you went broke after you played
Speaker 1: and ten generations of Jordan from now will still be wealthy.
Speaker 1: Are you bitter because your ex wife is sleeping around
Speaker 1: with every other man in the city of Losangelist to
Speaker 1: the point that Frittie and I have a chance. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, it seems unnecessary. Yeah, I think that. I
Speaker 1: don't think that was factually true. Uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: what yes, yes, oh, other than that Gus had a shot,
Speaker 1: but not for everything else right off? Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what Scotty's agenda is. It feels like Scottie is, um,
Speaker 1: he's got a shotgun and you know he's he's trying
Speaker 1: to kill a little rabbit here. But it's not. It's
Speaker 1: MJ like he's got I'm just gonna shoot and I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna hit anything. I'm gonna shoot it.
Speaker 1: And he's firing away at everybody anything. But it really
Speaker 1: comes back to Michael embarrassed him I think in the
Speaker 1: last dance, and you know, Scotty probably wasn't given a
Speaker 1: heads up. Imagine that if you're in the documentary and
Speaker 1: you don't get to see it first, and you're watching,
Speaker 1: probably with family friends, and all of a sudden, Michael
Speaker 1: starts taking shots at you, and you're thinking, Mike's gonna
Speaker 1: say nice things about me, because he's already said he
Speaker 1: couldn't have won these titles without you know, Scotti. Michael
Speaker 1: doesn't do that. Not many guys go into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and treat it as a roast for all
Speaker 1: the players that they played against. That's what Michael did.
Speaker 1: And Michael hasn't Michael hasn't changed. That's what I like.
Speaker 1: Scotty misread Michael in retirement that Mike is not any
Speaker 1: Mike is so competitive. He's just a business man as
Speaker 1: far as his competition. That that's you know, his outlet,
Speaker 1: the way he played. I mean, this is who he
Speaker 1: is now. I don't know if he says nice things
Speaker 1: about too many guys, but he probably looks at Scotty
Speaker 1: and says, this is weak, you know, Scottie wants recognition.
Speaker 1: And did Mike need to put in that Scotty signed
Speaker 1: one of the worst contracts in NBA history. No, he
Speaker 1: did not. But Mike had ten ten hours to uh spew,
Speaker 1: pat himself on the back. I mean, that's what this was.
Speaker 1: This is a victory lab for Mike. Yeah. See, and
Speaker 1: that's the Yeah, it's almost like the if I can
Speaker 1: try and put myself in Scottie Pippen's shoes. It's not
Speaker 1: only the like digs that Jordan and the documentary took,
Speaker 1: but it's the levels of them too, Like just the
Speaker 1: implication that Scotty signed one of the worst contracts in
Speaker 1: NFL in NBA history. But here I'm Michael Jordan. I'm
Speaker 1: one of the best businessmen to ever come out of
Speaker 1: the NBA. I'm a billionaire because of how great I
Speaker 1: am at business. Whereas this guy, he can't even figure
Speaker 1: out this contract. Like so many years of those subtle
Speaker 1: little things I could see driving somebody absolutely insane to
Speaker 1: the point that you're like, you know what, screw it.
Speaker 1: I don't think people talked to Scottie or ask for
Speaker 1: his opinion throughout his career. I know I didn't, and
Speaker 1: I was around him, But if they said who do
Speaker 1: you want after the game, I would normally say Michael
Speaker 1: or Phil Rodman occasionally, but I think Scotty was doing
Speaker 1: all of the dirty work, and he was, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's you're in a boy band. Do you want to
Speaker 1: how much credit do you deserve being in this boy band?
Speaker 1: And I think that he thought he was a lead
Speaker 1: singer or you know, he was co lead singer and
Speaker 1: he wasn't. It was Michael, and then it was everybody
Speaker 1: else but Scotty. And maybe he sells books because of this.
Speaker 1: Maybe by being this angry, he's going to sell books.
Speaker 1: If Scotty just came out and did his sort of
Speaker 1: tell all, I don't know how much anybody would really care.
Speaker 1: But it's like Scotty wants to set the record straight,
Speaker 1: no matter the collateral damage here, yeah point. As a Chicagoan,
Speaker 1: Scotty is one of the most weird, the weirdest athletes.
Speaker 1: He's not even beloved in his hometown. Can you think
Speaker 1: of another athlete who brought his team six titles or
Speaker 1: even multiple titles asn't beloved. It's like, you know, Julian
Speaker 1: Edelman played in the shadow of Tom Brady. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: sucks up all the air in the room. But Edelman
Speaker 1: is a beloved athlete in this town. Scotti Peppan is
Speaker 1: not beloved in Chicago. Most people you ask about Scott
Speaker 1: did they bring up the negatives more than the positives.
Speaker 1: That's the local fans. Yeah, But Edelman knows his place.
Speaker 1: Scottie doesn't. Scotty thinks he is. You know that he
Speaker 1: and Mike are equals. And that's where he has to
Speaker 1: realize He's not Kevin McHale, is not Larry bird Byron.
Speaker 1: Scott is not Magic Johnson. But they don't They're not whining.
Speaker 1: They're not asking for, you know, recognition. Now, they didn't
Speaker 1: have a documentary where they were criticized like Scotty was.
Speaker 1: I think Scotty's gone through an awful lot here in
Speaker 1: the last decade, whether it's divorce, financial stuff, what happened
Speaker 1: in the last dance, and he's mad, But it's like
Speaker 1: you want to get into the ring, you don't, but
Speaker 1: nobody's in the ring. He's like in there and he's
Speaker 1: ready for somebody, and nobody's showing up. I wonder how
Speaker 1: Jordan thinks about this. Take a break more phone calls
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Speaker 1: last night, Duken Huckey at the Garden. Coach K picked
Speaker 1: up the win seventy nine seventy one. Not a great
Speaker 1: shooting night. Duke one of thirteen from three point range.
Speaker 1: That's seven point seven percent. There were a couple of
Speaker 1: surprises last night. Akron nearly pulled off the upset beating
Speaker 1: Ohio State. But I watched Gonzaga. My boy ched Holmgren,
Speaker 1: the seventh footer. Well he's going against Dixie State, which
Speaker 1: sounds like somebody I might have dated a long time ago.
Speaker 1: He played well, he had an impact. You know. I
Speaker 1: think he had like six blocks and he had doubled.
Speaker 1: He had a double double. And he's probably going to
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that gets points, rebounds in blocks,
Speaker 1: might have a you know, a triple double this year.
Speaker 1: But he's seven four and weighs probably two hundred pounds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: MC club. I saw the highlight. Thought of Sean Bradley,
Speaker 1: like guy who needs to put away so he needs
Speaker 1: eat hamburgers. Can he do it? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't you play at that skinniness. I played at that
Speaker 1: skinniness in high school. It was a disaster. Well, Sean Bradley.
Speaker 1: I thought Sean was going to change the NBA. He
Speaker 1: was seven to six. He could run the floor, he
Speaker 1: could shoot jumpers, he had a nice touch. It just
Speaker 1: obviously didn't work out that way. But I thought that
Speaker 1: he had the makings of he can handle and founine jumper.
Speaker 1: He had that ability. But U I don't know if
Speaker 1: Ched Holmgren is going to be a great player. But
Speaker 1: they're already looking at him as a you know, possible
Speaker 1: number one overall pick at that size. But I don't
Speaker 1: know in today's NBA, that's that's the difference, you know,
Speaker 1: is he and he can play on the perimeter. And
Speaker 1: I watched two of his high school games where he's
Speaker 1: handling the ball out there and beating guys off the dribble.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't think Gonzaga is going
Speaker 1: to ask him to do that this year. Yes, it
Speaker 1: does remind me a little bit of a very very
Speaker 1: young Kevin Garnett who was painfully thin coming out of
Speaker 1: high school and needed to develop it. He never really
Speaker 1: got to be a big guy, and he it took
Speaker 1: a while, but he was more of an both inside
Speaker 1: and outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know what KG wade,
Speaker 1: but you know, it felt like he was around six ten,
Speaker 1: six to eleven and you know, two thirty, but he played,
Speaker 1: he played like he was a whole lot bigger and
Speaker 1: better than that. Kate in Kansas City, Hi Kate, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind today? Hi? Hi Kate, Hi you guys.
Speaker 1: Nice to finally meet you. Um, yeah, we're I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here with my husband and uh, you know, we're both
Speaker 1: athletes and we're talking about the debate here, and we
Speaker 1: both watched MJ and Scottie grown Up. And here's the thing,
Speaker 1: is there really a debate? Because the likability here, that's
Speaker 1: one thing you can't teach us an athlete. AB Kate, Wait,
Speaker 1: what's going on with you and your husband there at home?
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, what's what do you mean? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean you'd say that you're you're you're
Speaker 1: debating this early. I mean you're just sitting around debating. No, no,
Speaker 1: you guys. Oh okay, I didn't know. What are you
Speaker 1: guys doing this morning? Oh? All right? You held up
Speaker 1: a mirror to their life. I just want to I
Speaker 1: just wanted to find out what's going on there, Kate.
Speaker 1: By the way, Kate hung up on us. That might
Speaker 1: have might have been her husband saying, Steve, what are
Speaker 1: we doing this morning? Uh? Carlos in Indiana? Hi Carlos,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? Are Hi? Carlos? Hey? I
Speaker 1: kept playing from Falkware a second, but hey, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to call in the first time in a
Speaker 1: long time. And I'm sitting here a huge Bulls fan
Speaker 1: growing up. You know, just like everybody else or and
Speaker 1: everybody else, but you know, um and uh, I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say one of the things that and I
Speaker 1: think what you guys are getting into as far as Scotty,
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, you know all these shots that were
Speaker 1: being taken. I think he was the more I the
Speaker 1: more I think about this and what was being said
Speaker 1: in the last dayf I mean Tim Grober, the guy
Speaker 1: that that was a trainer for Jordan and then he
Speaker 1: started training Pipping too, and then also Ron Harper. When
Speaker 1: Ron Harper joined the team, when Tim Groverer, you know,
Speaker 1: had his little little piece in there, he mentioned that,
Speaker 1: you know, Scotty and Ron, you know, they were there
Speaker 1: every single workout and they never missed because they were
Speaker 1: scared of the tunnel lashing that they would have got
Speaker 1: from Jordan. And I think Pipping is thinking to himself, like, clue,
Speaker 1: why Tim Grover staying staying this when part of the
Speaker 1: reason Tim Grover is Tim Grover is because of Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: And not only that, well Tim Grover is no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Tim Grover's Tim Grover because of Michael Jordan. Nobody cared
Speaker 1: that Scotty was working out with Tim Grover. They cared
Speaker 1: that Michael was look I feel sad for Scottie because
Speaker 1: he was a great player. I feel bad that he's
Speaker 1: trying to set the record straight and he's not coming
Speaker 1: off well. Here. Maybe sells some books. Joe Montana is
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