1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Find your local station for Covino on Rich at Foxsports 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app Lie searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Okay, it may have been a day off. Sorry, everything 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: blends into one during the summertime, Manzi. Yeah, but somebody 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: threw a pitch this weekend, and somebody here at Fox 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio is not very happy about it. Welcome in. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: We are in for Convena on Rich. We're not the 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: only ones here. Isaac long Crown is at the news 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: desk giving us the latest. Jason Stewart's our executive producer, 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 1: and our technical producer is Ryan Smith. It's a big 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: day for you, Monzie, because in a couple of hours 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: we'll find out, or you will find out. We won't 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: find out until tomorrow that you may have jury duty tomorrow. 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I've never had to report. Everybody's like, 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: why do you just throw it away? Y'all? I've been 20 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: throwing it away for years, and this time I chose 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: not to. Okay, I chose to be a good person 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: and now I'm waiting. But the times that I have 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: uh called in, I've never been asked to report, So 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 3: I've never actually gone in like you have. The times 25 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: that i've that I've you know, called in, I know 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: you don't need to report, So I'm hoping I don't 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: need to report. 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just gonna tell you next time, don't say 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: you threw it away. Don't give me the air quotes 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: that you called in when you didn't misle. This is 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: all of this is all responsibility. Manzi could be on 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: jury duty tomorrow. 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I could be. 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: We'll find out in a few hours out if you're 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: back with us tomorrow or not. You'll find out in 36 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: a couple of hours. We'll find out tomorrow. It was 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: on Saturday that the Giants and Dodgers played baseball in 38 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco, and what a day it was to honor 39 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds. Barry Bobs throwing out the first pitch to 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: the in the game between the NL West Division rivals. 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't think that it is a sign of healing. 42 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: I think that it is a sign of the San 43 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: Francisco Giants promoting one of their own. But Jason Stewarts, 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: our executive producer, had a big, big problem with the 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: Giants and Barry Bonds putting on a showcase on Saturday. 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 4: And there's context for this, right because they the owner 47 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: of the Giants, I think, just recently said that there's 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: likely going to be a statue in front of AT 49 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: and T Park. And then also Sammy Soso, remember he 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: was brought back to Wrigley to a standing ovation recently. 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: And I think it's a disturbing trend, as I pointed 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 4: out in my in my ex post, disturbing trend of 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: like major League Baseball for giving the steroid era, like 54 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: the the faces of the steroid era, Barry Bonds and 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: Sammy Sosa bastardized the sport more than anybody. They they 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: are the ones that ruin the record books. They're the 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 4: ones that were the poster children for that era. So 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: it's like you always hear this, everybody was doing it, 59 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: they were just doing it better than everybody. Like there 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: are so many justifications for that era that I saw 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: this weekend in my post, and I thought, well, this 62 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: probably makes for good sports talk fodder because I can't 63 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: believe how forgiving people are, and I can't believe that 64 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: the current leadership in baseball acknowledges that that was an 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: era that they're embarrassed of and they shouldn't have looked 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 4: the other way, and now they're celebrating the key figures 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: of that era. It doesn't rub me the right way. 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 4: But I'm an old kurmudgeon baseball fan. 69 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: I will say this that I think that there is 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: a unique audience, and it doesn't mean that it's a 71 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: small audience that is up in arms over this. I 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: think that I am not surprised that Barry Bonds got 73 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: cheered for the San Francisco Giants. I think baseball fans 74 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: are mad at steroid users when they're not when they're 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: not on their team. Okay, so, and I'm only saying 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: this because Ryan Brawn of the Brewers was one who 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: was caught up in a later scandal with Bosh and 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Florida part of what a rod was brought into. And 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: each each team may have their own player in terms 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: of supporting it. For the Giants, it just happens to 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: be one of the best that they've ever had. For 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: the Brewers, Ryan broad Like, Truly, it was a great 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewer not up there with with YOUNGT Molitor and 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: how they're revered, so Bonds is at a different level. 85 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: But it's I expect Jason to be mad as a 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: baseball fan, but I don't expect Giants fans to be mad. 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: I actually don't expect major League Baseball to be mad 88 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 1: about it, because it sure seemed like they were fine 89 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: with how everything went as it was going on. I 90 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: think the farce was feeling that they were mad about it. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: So it's such a unique sort of deal. But I 92 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: get why it turns you off. But I don't know 93 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: what we need to do to barry Bonds, especially if 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: it's a home baseball game, to penalize him. Does he 95 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: have to stay away? I mean, he's been a coach 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball since then, right, so why shouldn't 97 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: he have the opportunity to go and at least throw 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: out a first pitch in front of the home fans, who, really, 99 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: I feel, have absolutely no problem with what he did 100 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: throughout his career in San Francisco. 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 3: So I hear where you may not like it, Jason, 102 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: I understand, but I am not bothered by it for 103 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 3: a couple of reasons. Here, I think the fact that 104 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds never won a World I'm right, right, he 105 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: never won a World Series. Right, that adds to it, 106 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: like if he would have won, and let's say he 107 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: won a lot. I think that's part of it. Sammy Sosa, 108 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 3: Mark McGuire won one. But did Mark McGuire when he 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 3: won one? Was he on the steroids? Wasn't that before 110 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: or like at the start? 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: Mark McGuire won in nineteen eighty nine and wasn't. 112 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 3: The aeroids and the serods and like the nine whatever? 113 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: So he has won, Sammy Sosa. 114 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: But this way, I would be shocked if Mark McGuire 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: wasn't on something in. 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: The in that year. A year he's got one. 117 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: I was so ripped. 118 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: Yes, but they didn't win a bunch like they were. Yes, 119 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: the bash brothers right, but like I think them not 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: winning is one of the reasons. It doesn't bother me. Also, 121 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: I understand, like they cheated, you still have to hit 122 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: the ball. To me, knowing the pitch is worse than 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 3: you juicing up. Like if I'm a pitcher and you 124 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm about to pitch, that I would not 125 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: stand for knowing that year juiced up. I'll be like 126 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: try and hit it anyway. I'm still gonna try to 127 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: strike you out, Like, yeah, they're stronger, but they still 128 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: have to hit the ball. So that's another part of it. 129 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: And Barry Bond's specifically going out for the Giants game, 130 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: like I don't care. I don't know if it's that 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: I'm moving on and forgiving. I don't know if I 132 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: genuinely was ever really mad. 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, and I think that that's part 134 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: of where it is in baseball. There was I don't 135 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: think there was ever a point where Barry Bonds is 136 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: hitting seventy three home runs in a season in Giants 137 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: fans like, I'm not watching this. 138 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: Crap exactly, you know, like or baseball fans, not even 139 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: just Giants fans right, like you were tuning in to 140 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: see Barry bar. 141 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: At the time at the time. Yes, I think in 142 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: later years you can feel scorn like Jason. I do. 143 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: And I looked at Jason's tweet. I didn't realize you 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: tweeted it until today, Jason. But the response is to it, 145 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: if you don't mind me shut up. That was from 146 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: from Marshall Eric in the south Side right, signed Shoeless 147 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: Joe Jackson and Pete Rose. That's what I'll get it to. 148 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Somebody wrote, Hey, al Berry knew it was the cream 149 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and the clear. Someone bad take Jim Rome voice, You're 150 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna be okay like those sort of things. So you're 151 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: getting a lot of hate with all of this. But 152 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: the Pete Rose thing pops up, and the thing with 153 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: Pete Rose was there was there was the opportunity where 154 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: he was betting against his team just for the whole sake. 155 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: And it's argument as old as time of the day 156 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: you don't bet on him is the day that you're 157 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: not betting on your team to win. So if you're 158 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: betting on the Reds one day and then you don't 159 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: bet on them the next, that means you're not as 160 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: confident that they're going to win the next So in essence, 161 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: you think that the day before the first day is 162 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: the day that they're going to win. So then you 163 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: also may use your bullpen in a different way, may 164 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,239 Speaker 1: play different players in a different way. There's a slippery 165 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: slope when it comes to Pete Rose. I don't know, 166 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: and you can maybe tell me on what people may 167 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: think that the slippery slope is on the flip side 168 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: of Barry Bonds just trying to be the best and 169 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: trying to trying to win in set records. It may 170 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: be ruining the baseball record book. But again, I don't 171 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: think San Francisco Giants fans care. I don't know if 172 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewer fans care that Ryan Brown did what he did. 173 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if Cubs fans obviously not anymore. I 174 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: hate what Sammy Sosa did, But on the Rose thing, 175 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: I think that there are two sides to it. On 176 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: the steroid thing, I'm not sure that there are two 177 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: sides to it. 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: I always say this that, like the the Pete Rose thing, 179 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: I think uh like tears at the fabric of the game. 180 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: You know, you always hear this. The second that your 181 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 4: audience thinks that they're showing up for WWE, you've lost 182 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: the credibility of your sport. And if they think that 183 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 4: players on the field are compromised or throwing the game, 184 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: then that works at the fabric of the sport. The 185 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 4: steroid guys were doing something that was against the law 186 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 4: of the land. People say that it was against the rules. 187 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: It wasn't against the rules in baseball, And I always 188 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: say this, there's a difference between it not being against 189 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 4: the rules and the players' union literally collectively bargained the 190 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: inability to test them for that. It doesn't mean it 191 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: wasn't against the rules. Now, these guys did it for 192 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: their own financial benefit, like for whatever reason. The revisionist 193 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 4: history is that these guys did it to levitate the 194 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: interest of the game. They were each in it for themselves. 195 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 4: I agree with that it was borderline. Minor leaguers could 196 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: make tens of millions of dollars, you know, people making 197 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 4: tens of millions of dollars could be Hall of famers, 198 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 4: So they weren't there. There was There were no good 199 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 4: guys in this whole thing. But I just think that 200 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: to celebrate the people that jeopardized the credibility of the 201 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: record books, Aaron Judge had a home run number three. 202 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Fifty this weekend. 203 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 4: Okay, we should be celebrating the fact that he is 204 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 4: the fastest player to ever do it. The problem is, 205 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: how do we even consider. 206 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,599 Speaker 1: Home runs nowadays? What's good? What's not? 207 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: And it's and it's Barry Bonds's fault, it's Sammy Sosi's fault. 208 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 4: So for me, it's just like Monci just said, what 209 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: do we do to penalize these guys. We don't need 210 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 4: to penalize them anymore than they already have. They're not 211 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame, they've already kind of reached 212 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: received their penalty. But just don't celebrate them. Don't take 213 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 4: a day out of the you know, the year and 214 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: celebrate them with a statue and a first pitch. I 215 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 4: think that's my problem. 216 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: I I understand it. I just don't think that the 217 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants, and that's who we're talking about here 218 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: are the ones that had a problem with it or 219 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: have a problem with it afterwards. Now they may have 220 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: been the ones to turn the blind eye, just like 221 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the twenty nine other teams in Major League Baseball. But 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: there's there's I understand the numbers portion of it, Like 223 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: when we talk about the home run number. I still 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: I think Bonds is seven sixty two? Is that? What 225 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: is that? What the number is? Or is it seven 226 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: sixty three? 227 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 4: I'll take your word for it. 228 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: I honestly, you know we know it's seven fifty five 229 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: for Hank Aaron and Isaac de Do you know what 230 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: it is? 231 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: Well, I think you just made a great point by 232 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: saying that for the record at seven sixty two, But 233 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: a whole generation of people were raised on having seven 234 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: fourteen of Babe Ruth and seven fifty five of Hank 235 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: Aaron memorized. 236 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: And those those are the people like Jason in essence 237 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of myself, where I don't look at 238 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds's record as being the real record. Sixty one 239 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: is a lot easier to remember than seventy three. Even 240 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: when McGuire hit seventy, it was a round number, and 241 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: that was before Bonds ended up breaking it a couple 242 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: of years ago. But when McGuire stood at seventy, that 243 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: did say something to me, and then it kind of 244 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: went away where sixty one ends up being the magic number, 245 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: and it goes away because Bonds broke seventy and then 246 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: we obviously know what happened after that. But I think 247 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that the continuous penalty is how Monty thinks it, how 248 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Isaac thinks of it, how I just explained it to myself. 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: That's the constant penalty. I can't fault the San Francisco 250 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: Giants for honoring one of their own. Now, if Major 251 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: League Baseball were tonight in Atlanta to bring out Barry 252 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: Bonds to throw the first pitch, then I have a 253 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: then there's a problem with it. But in terms of 254 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: the local team and how they're doing it, I just 255 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: I think of the audience right now that twenty two 256 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: years ago, twenty three years ago, those people who are 257 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: maybe early teenagers thirteen, now they're on they're buying prime 258 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: in their late thirties. They're gonna want to go to 259 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: the ballpark and see the guy that made the summer 260 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: of two thousand and two so magnificent. And so that's 261 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: why they want to go and see Barry Bonds. 262 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you just hit it. If this was 263 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: just the All Star Game in Atlanta and you're sending 264 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds out, I think it would actually raise a 265 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: lot of questions and a lot of people be like, 266 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: why him. The Giants, that's their dude. He's always gonna 267 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: be their dude. But I will also say the fact 268 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: that Aaron Judge is hitting faster than anybody the three 269 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty, surpassing Mark McGuire by almost two hundred games, 270 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: it goes to show that who look at y'all, y'all 271 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: cheat it, and they are players that are still doing 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: this better than you right now. So maybe that's why 273 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: it like a. 274 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: I, eh, I'll tell you what when we were on 275 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Judge Watch, Yeah, or sixty one may not be the 276 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: penalty that Jason Stewart wants for Barry Bonds, but I 277 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: think it says a lot more, just like the point 278 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: of not remembering what the actual number was that Bonds 279 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: ended up finishing with. I just remember that the single 280 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: season in the home run one of them ends in 281 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the three and one of them ends into two with Bonds. 282 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: So I wasn't sure if it was seven sixty two, 283 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: but seventy three is the home run number. But it's 284 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: moments like Aaron Judge hitting number sixty two, us having 285 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: to couch or characterize it by saying it's the American 286 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: League home run record stinks like that part stinks about it, 287 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: But we were watching everything that Aaron Judge was doing 288 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: up until that point. There has been years prior to 289 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: that when John Carlo Stanton was getting close, when he 290 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: had what fifty seven or fifty nine didn't have nearly 291 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: as much of the hype, which I think Judge, being 292 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: a member of the Yankees alps with But like those 293 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: are the things like again, It wasn't like, ah, he's 294 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: fifteen away from seventy three. We were still talking about 295 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: about sixty one. That's why I bring up Stanton, just 296 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: because he was in the National League at that point 297 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: and he was getting close to Roger Morris's market. 298 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 4: You talk about ninety eight, and you talk about two 299 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: thousand and two and all these memories that these Reuters 300 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 4: were providing their fans. Don't you feel duped? In other words, 301 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: I look back on that. I too was excited for 302 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 4: all that. As a baseball fan. I was ignorant to 303 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: what was going on. But then after it was revealed 304 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: that all these guys were cheating, then I then I 305 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: felt bad, and I felt worse because I fell for it. 306 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 4: It's kind of like the Milli Vanilli thing. It's like 307 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 4: we're not putting Milli Vanilli in the Rock and Roll 308 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame because they were shams. They were cheated 309 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 4: like people who went to their concerts. Feel probably really 310 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: stupid right now. 311 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is this just popped into 312 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: my head. I did not feel stupid like you did. 313 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I didn't. 314 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel like they pulled one over on me. 315 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Then that's the difference I think in this argument, right, Yeah, 316 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: I think so. I also think that there's something happening 317 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: right now where, like I joke, so, James Wood's the 318 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: first time All Star for the Nationals, and I remember 319 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I talked to you guys of there was a stat 320 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: that came out that, like, James Wood at the second 321 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: highest exit velocity of any player in the big leagues 322 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: outside of like sho Hey Otani or. 323 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: Something like that, and we were like, what the hell 324 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: does that mean? 325 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but New Baseball is like, that's freaking amazing, 326 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: right and so so now and maybe Jason doesn't want 327 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: to hear, but if you were to tell somebody what 328 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds's exit velocity was at that time compared to 329 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: you know what it is now, they may be blown 330 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: away by those numbers. They're maybe not caring about the 331 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: numbers that Isaac cared about, that you cared about, Jason, 332 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: that Ryan cared about them, Onto cared about, that I 333 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: cared about of sixty one, of seven fifty five, and 334 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: of those numbers, and us being fans of those numbers 335 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: and trying to be protector of the record books may 336 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: start to diminish even more as time goes by. So 337 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: then at what point do you say to Sammy Sosa 338 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: and Barry Bonds, people don't even care about the records anymore, 339 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: but we're still going to hold you out like that. 340 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: I don't maybe to your point, that's the principle of it. 341 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I just don't think that. At some point, I do 342 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: think that there has to be some leniency. And I 343 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: just look at the Giants and being like, they never 344 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: felt that it was bad. Maybe maybe they felt dirty 345 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: as Bonds was and Balco were being dragged through the mud, 346 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: But at no point did I do I feel that 347 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: the Giants had any sort of backlash for what Barry 348 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: Bonds was. 349 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 4: They never did. The Giants fans from day one have 350 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: always been behind the guy. They really haven't even waivered. 351 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: I know that for a fact. 352 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: And and and Sammy Sosa was up and down. Sammy 353 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Sosa was also busted with an illegal bat right, so 354 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: like there's. 355 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 4: What he was doing it just for the fans? Is 356 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: that what he said? I cork my bats for the fans. 357 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: So you're on roids and you cork your bats. 358 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: So that's you know, there's there's something with that. Do 359 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: you think steroids and corking your bats are the same thing, honestly, 360 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: honest questions. I mean they're both cheating, right, That's that's 361 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: the point. 362 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 3: That's why they're about cheating. 363 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: Like I look at I look at steroids. I'm more 364 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: I'm more appalled by corking of the bats. 365 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 3: I am too than because you still't have to hit 366 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 3: the ball. Yes, like you still have you're strong enough, 367 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 3: but you still have to hit the ball. But I 368 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: am more offended by the corking of the bat. 369 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: I remember that being in an argument at the time 370 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: on sports talk radio that you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger couldn't 371 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: hit fifty home runs in a year. And I'll always 372 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: say this, it takes an intense, high level skill, level 373 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: of hand eye coordination to hit a baseball on a 374 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: major league level. So I've never argued that point, but 375 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 4: I will say this, like the Jason Giombies of the 376 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 4: world that were able to make three hundred million dollars 377 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: in their career as opposed to just kind of have 378 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 4: a career. It takes those high level handball coordination people, 379 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: and it just made everyone this this like fake. I 380 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 4: don't even know what you say. There's just a certain 381 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 4: quality to it. It's just artificial and I'll never get 382 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: over that part. So I think that's my problem. 383 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Also the players, some of the players had much longer careers. 384 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Crazy to think that Bonds would be a better hitter 385 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: in his later years than he was early on in 386 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: his career. But it's Roger Clemens, and we grew up 387 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: in a time monster you weren't born yet. Where Roger 388 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: Clemens was was the deal in the eighties, and then 389 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: to do the things that he then ended up doing 390 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: in the nineties with the Blue Jays and the Yankees, 391 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: and it kind of being the same Roger Clemens, and 392 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: I do feel I do feel dumb to that point 393 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: of looking back and saying, look at Roger Clemens, you go, 394 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: you go, old man, and then just being naive to it. 395 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: So there's I I think that if you're a fan 396 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: of those teams and that's what this is, you're not 397 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: going to be bothered. But if it was a league 398 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: wide thing, again with the All Star Game, then it's 399 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: a bigger issue. Remember when Pete Rose, it wasn't Atlanta, right, 400 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: was it? At the World Series where they did the 401 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: All Century Team, and then Jim Gray asked him the question, 402 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: was that Fenway or I thought, okay, yeah, I thought 403 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: it was a world sew am. 404 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 4: I mixing the Ted Williams thing. 405 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: With Yeah, Isaac Loh and cron has got some information. 406 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was before Game two of the Night ninety 407 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: nine World Series in Atlanta Braves Yankees. 408 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: Yes, so there's Pete Rose at that point of a 409 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: major League baseball thing being welcomed back. And I'll say this, 410 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: there were more people on Rose's side than I think. 411 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: I don't think there are people who are passionate for 412 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: Barry Bonds. I think there are people who are indifferent 413 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: to Barry Bonds. Right now, you're passionately against it. There 414 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: are more people who I think are passionately against it 415 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: than are passionately for Barry Bonds. But with Pete Rose, 416 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: different story. There were passionate people for it and passion 417 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: passionate people against Pete Rose. And I think that's what 418 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: also made his situation so unique. By the way, Pete 419 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: Rose is getting in the Hall of Fame because he's 420 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: dead like that is it's true because you will hear 421 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: people say, oh, of course, now that he's gone, you 422 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: put him in. No, that's the reason that he's in 423 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: the rule that Rob Manfred a Major League Baseball wrote 424 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: is your lifetime ban is done when you're dead. So 425 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: if Pete Rose we're still alive today, he would not 426 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame, and Monty and I 427 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: would be having this conversation with Jason at another time 428 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: whenever Pete Rose. But that is that is why Pete 429 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Rose is now in the Hall of Fame. Barry Bonds 430 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: may have to wait till that point to be honestly 431 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: blunt to it, to truly get past it. She's Moncey Blago. 432 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: So I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox Sports Radio. We 433 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: are in for Cavino and Rich here on FSR. 434 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 435 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 436 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 437 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 3: What's up Everybody? Happy Monday? Thanks for tuning in to 438 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: the Covino and Rich Show on Fox Sports Radio. 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I'm not sure 449 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: if the guys did it today or not in Atlanta. 450 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: I know it's a little different on remote, but we 451 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: are not going to do that. Instead, Mancy has got 452 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: her jury summons, so all week long, she's got a 453 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: call in today. She's good, she's here with us. We 454 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: have no idea if she's going to be with us 455 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: tomorrow because of her jury situation. 456 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: No no show, hey for now. Watch maybe in a 457 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: couple of years with that idea in his head. 458 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Looks pretty sharp in those New Balance commercials, Right, yeah, 459 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: I could see how it could happen. Moncey again on 460 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: call for Jury Duty, and it allows us to unveil 461 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: a new game that we I don't even know if 462 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: it's a game. It's the real stuff, Jury Duty, Jerry Duty. 463 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: We're playing Jury duty here off Fox Sports Radio. Jury 464 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: has made up with three members the foreman Jason Stewart. 465 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: There's Isaac Lohan Kron and Ryan Smith. They are the 466 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: three person jury is Mancey, Belanios and myself debate a topic. 467 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: We will debate it for the next five minutes or so. 468 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: The jury will then deliberate and come back with their verdict. 469 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Here is the topic of discussion. Home run derby good 470 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: or bad for the All Star Game. Moncey, call it 471 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: in the air. Heads you go first, Tails, I go first, Tales, Okay, no, 472 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: it's it's no wait, it's heads you go first, Tails, 473 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: I go first. I wanted to call Okay, okay, so 474 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: I go first. I actually think the home run derby 475 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: is not good for the All Star Game. The ratings 476 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: for the All Star Game, like any other major sport 477 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: outside of the Super Bowl, surely have diminished throughout time. 478 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: But what happens with the All Star Game is it's 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: like when you open presence on Christmas Eve. On Christmas Day, 480 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you get presents, but you've already opened presents the night before, 481 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: so it isn't as special. There isn't that anticipation. What 482 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: the home run derby does is it shows you everything. 483 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: It shows you the ballpark, it shows you the stars. 484 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: When I watch a Home Run Derby, I'm seeing bombs 485 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: hit four hundred and fifty feet four to seventy, and 486 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: we're seeing all of the players together in their uniform. 487 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: It's basically the All Star Game, except in a different version. 488 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: It completely takes away the newness and the uniqueness of 489 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: the All Star Game because you have an event that 490 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: is just as big the night prior. And that's what 491 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: I don't like about it. If you're a Christmas Morning 492 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: presence person, Christmas Morning is magnificent, but if you're a 493 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve presence person, it's much better than it is 494 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day because it's the first time that you're 495 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: getting to open presents. So even if you're seeing a 496 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: list of Home Run Derby participants that you don't think 497 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: is great, it still takes the sparkle off the newness 498 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that is the All Star Game. 499 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 500 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: Dan. First of all, nobody ever said they didn't want 501 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 3: to open Christmas presents two days in a row or 502 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 3: three days in a row, So no, that is not 503 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: it at all. You're comparing the Home Run Derby to 504 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 3: like the Slam Dunk Contest, or like the NFL Pro Game, 505 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 3: Pro Bowl games that nobody wants to watch. The Home 506 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 3: Run Derby and the MLB All Star Game are not 507 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: the same. In fact, am I gonna see Trek Scooble tonight? 508 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: No? 509 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: You see my hockey ball schemes tonight. No, I'm not 510 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: gonna see Jacob Mazerowski either. I'm gonna see some of 511 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,360 Speaker 3: the hitters that are hitting balls out of the ballpark 512 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 3: all season, like Cal Rawley, who's diving an incredible here 513 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: to see what he can go do in a short 514 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 3: amount of time. People love home runs. That is why 515 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: you know there are stories that maybe Baseball themselves that 516 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: change the ball a little bit because fans love the 517 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: home love the home runs in the real game. This 518 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: is not diminishing the All Star Game in any way, 519 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 3: shape or form. It is setting you up for a 520 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: fun All Star game. Both of them are competitive. There's 521 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: still pride in both of these events. And the Home 522 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: Run Derby you're seeing the hitters, that's all you're seeing, 523 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: and it's more relaxed and fun. Then you get to 524 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: the All Star Game and that is still competitive. Because 525 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: nobody wants to go out there and strike out. It 526 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: look like an idiot. Nobody wants to go out there 527 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: and lave a ball and give up a big home 528 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: run to someone, They're still pride in the All Star Game. 529 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 3: And that's the big difference. So it doesn't ruin the 530 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: All Star Game. MLB is fun and you actually get 531 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 3: to see the best hitters right now, or more exciting hitters. 532 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 3: James Wood apparently has ten of the furthest home runs 533 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: this season out of all of them. Like there, it's 534 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 3: not the same. It is a nice appetizer for what 535 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: you're gonna get on Tuesday. 536 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: Well, one of my let me just put it this 537 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: way to run down my favorite RBI doubles that we've 538 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: had in All Star Game history. I can't even remember it. 539 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: The point is is, you know what I love about 540 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: All Star Games. When a guy hits a home run 541 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: like bo Jackson did to dead center field in Anaheim. 542 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: You know what would have made that less exciting is 543 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: if you wouldn't hit twenty eight of them the night 544 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: before that went one hundred feet further. That's the point 545 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: of it. We don't even have All Star memories from 546 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: the past because or from recent history. Because we're remembering 547 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: great performances in home run Derby's. We're remembering celebrations. We're 548 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: remembering the timeout and so and so walking up to 549 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Prince Fielder and giving them some gatorade. It is completely 550 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: overshadowed memories that we have because when I'm watching an 551 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: All Star Game, Yeah, I want to see a guy 552 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: take a picture deep, but guess what I saw it 553 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eight times the night before by 554 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: eight different players in the big leagues. It's it's supposed 555 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: to be an appetizer, but sometimes, my let's be real, 556 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: the mazzarella sticks take away from the meal that you're 557 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: about to eat. And I think that's what happens with 558 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: the home run derby. 559 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 3: I don't see that at all. In fact, if cal 560 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: Rawly wins the home run Derby tonight and I don't 561 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: know has thirty five home runs and he hits a 562 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 3: home run for the All Star Game, that's it. Yes, 563 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: look at he's not losing his stride there he is. 564 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: He did it yesterday. It adds to it. It adds 565 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: to the story. And because it is the big players, 566 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: it's names you recognize going out there to hit. And again, 567 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: it's not you have your dad throwing to you, you 568 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: have your buddy throwing to you, it's not the exact 569 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: same leverage that we're gonna get on Tuesday. So to me, 570 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: it's almost apples and oranges, like one doesn't take away 571 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: from the other, in fact, it enhances it for me. 572 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 3: And I just want to see how many home runs 573 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 3: they can hit in a two minute span, because I'm 574 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: not gonna get that on Tuesday. On Tuesday, I'm gonna 575 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: get individual matchups. That's what I'm looking for Monday's I'm 576 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: in for all the fun. H these home runs Fellas. 577 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: I think the band was about to quit on you, 578 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: and then you just kept going, Jerry, Okay, yeah, there 579 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: it is cal raw ejection. By the way, if cal 580 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: Raley hits one five hundred and twelve feet tonight, yep, 581 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: that's all people are going to talk about. It's not 582 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna matter what he does in tomorrow's game. I just 583 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: think Tomorrow's games I think it was I think it 584 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: was a great idea. It's like the Final Four, the 585 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Final Four Saturday is ended up overshadowing the Monday night 586 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Championship game because you're like, Wow, it's the Final Four. 587 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: It's the newness of it, and now you're seeing you're 588 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: seeing all the sites that you'll see, except you'll just 589 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: see them tomorrow night. I rest my. 590 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: Case, Jerry Doody, you're talking about cal Rawley. If he 591 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 3: wins the Home Run Derby and he hits a home 592 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: run in the All Star Game, nobody's going to care 593 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: about the Alstar Game. It's going to go back to 594 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: what he did in the Home Run Derby. But the 595 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 3: All Star Game has other players that you didn't get 596 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: to see tonight, Like the big pictures you're going for 597 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 3: the matchups you're not going to watch for the same reasons. Oh, 598 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: this is just for fun. Tonight is fun for everybody involved. 599 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: Hitters fans. You get to see the biggest hit the 600 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: biggest hitters all in one night, and then tomorrow night 601 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 3: you get to see the best pictures taking on some 602 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: of the best hitters. 603 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: All right, for mean you got you got enough. 604 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 4: I've heard enough, so we're gonna convene and then come 605 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 4: back with the verdict. 606 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: The verdicts will be yes after the break. Okay, all right, 607 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: there it is. She's Monty Blago, So I'm Dan Bayer. 608 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: She is four. I am against, and I fully know 609 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Monty is much more well liked her on these halways 610 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: than I am, so I'm already at a disadvantage. We'll 611 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: see who wins and not so fast. My friend oh 612 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: line out Max. She's Monty Blagos. I'm Dan Byer in 613 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: for Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. 614 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 615 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 616 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 5: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 617 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: There's no white smoke, but I think the jury has 618 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: reached a verdict. Here on Cavino and Rich on Fox 619 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, She's Monty Belagno. So I'm Dan Bayer in 620 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: four and Rich. Shortly after the show, the podcast will 621 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: be going up. If you missed any of today's show, 622 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Covino 623 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: and Rich wherever you get your podcasts. You'd be sure 624 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, just 625 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcasts. And 626 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you that because Covino and Rich 627 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: we're in for Dan Patrick earlier this morning. Here's the 628 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: good thing that I think Danny g does is that 629 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: the podcast that the guys of the show that they 630 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: did this morning, you'll find that at Fox Sports Radio 631 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: dot Com. Danny also puts it even though they were 632 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: in for Dan Patrick also puts it in the Cavino 633 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: and Rich podcast. So if you missed the guys and 634 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to hear him earlier today, we appreciate you 635 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: listening to us. But if you were hoping to hear 636 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: Cavino and Rich, you can hear them live from the 637 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: All Star festivities in Atlanta, although it's just recorded in 638 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: podcast form. 639 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 3: I wonder if they're going to enjoy the home run derby. 640 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: I have you been? Did you go to the one? 641 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: I did? 642 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: I did? 643 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: It was like a lot of fun. It's just for 644 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: the fans, the experience of being there and then just 645 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 3: seeing so many big hitters and stars because it's not 646 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: like the slam Dunk contest where you're like who's in it? 647 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: You typically know these names, so you get to see them, 648 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: you know, do what they do best. 649 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Not to be a negative Nancy Is. I know our 650 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: verdict is coming down in a second. But the one 651 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: thing that does not translate on TV is the breaks 652 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: in between the hitters. So there's a lot of downtime. 653 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: It's not just an inning changeover where it's there is 654 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: a lot. And honestly, after you've seen fifty home runs, 655 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: the fifty first and fifty second are just kind of like, okay, 656 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: Like at first it's electric, yeah, and then as the 657 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: night goes on. I was there when Josh Hamilton went 658 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: on fire in New York in two thousand and eight, 659 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: and so each one that he hit was just further 660 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: and further and further. Now, Josh Hamilton was so tired. 661 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: He lost to Justin Morno in the finals, but it 662 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: was so electric because of all the home runs that 663 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: he hit. Now, with the different rules, there's even more 664 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: home runs hit. It's a different animal. I think it's 665 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: a longer night for the fan watching the game because 666 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: of how it's all. 667 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 3: It is in You're right, it doesn't translate at home. 668 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 3: It's not the same than being in person. But you know, 669 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 3: you can get up, grab a drink, grab a snack, 670 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 3: come back watch the next hitter. 671 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's let's go to the foreman. Jason Stewart. 672 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I believe a verdict is in Mazi saying that the 673 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: home run derby not only doesn't hurt the All Star Game, 674 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: but actually helps it. Y I say that it's kind 675 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: of diminished the Midsummer Classic. 676 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 4: Now, as the jury foreman and the executive producer of 677 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 4: the show, I made it. I made an executive decision 678 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 4: because there were questions being asked by jurors, and instead 679 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 4: of answering them off the air or getting answers off 680 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 4: the air, I wanted the listeners to experience the entire process. 681 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: So there's a couple questions from the jurors before we 682 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 4: give you the verdict. I have all the information. So, 683 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 4: and like a murder trial, does the verdict have to 684 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 4: be unonymous? No, it does not have to be unanimous. 685 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 4: Just unanimous anonymous or unanonymous. Yeah, I got it because 686 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 4: that was the I would have been the swing vote 687 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 4: in this and I could. I could be convinced either way. 688 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: So two out of three the winner. 689 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: Here. 690 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: The verdict was two out of three. And I won't 691 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 4: name any names because I want to make it awkward, 692 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 4: but both of the people, I'll just give the verdict 693 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 4: right now. Moncey, you made the better point. You made 694 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: Moncey wins. 695 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: That's the prize. 696 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 2: By the way, thank you for the one hundred dollars 697 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 2: Amazon gift card. Oh sorry. 698 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 4: Sorry, and you are guilty. Guilty it's guilty of not 699 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 4: making a better point. That's that's what you're guilty of. 700 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 4: One of the people who voted for Moncey said, if 701 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: his point was just it's it's just too much. That 702 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: isn't good enough for me. Even though I agree with 703 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 4: this point, Moncey made better points. Another person pointed out 704 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 4: the fact that Monci's points about pitchers and fielders the 705 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 4: next day you see the entire game. Those are great points, 706 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 4: and again that's that won him over in this in 707 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: this debate, but they actually agree with you, Dan, so 708 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 4: and then there was just a point where I, you know, 709 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 4: somebody named me felt that Dan made great points, and 710 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 4: I very much agree with this point. 711 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 2: Overall, that cat wasn't let out of the bag. It 712 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: was yanked out. 713 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 4: But the verdict is in Monsey wins. 714 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: Wow. 715 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: I knew it was an uphill climb, But I have 716 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: to respect the jury's decision because you know what they 717 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: didn't do. They didn't take their summons and throw it away. 718 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: They didn't postpone their jury duty. They didn't push it 719 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: off until weeks and months ahead. They took the responsibility. 720 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: So I have to accept the decision of my peers, 721 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: even though I disagree with it. I think tonight is 722 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 1: and I say this, I say this as a Christmas 723 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: Eve opener of presents. That's what we always did. Christmas 724 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Eve was amazing, which made Christmas little little different, but 725 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: it was so I understand what the the home run 726 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: derby is. But I appreciate the decision and thank you 727 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: at least for hearing me out. 728 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: You know, it was a good debate. You had a 729 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 3: good point that sometimes the Mozzarelli sticks ruin the main entree. 730 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 3: You're not wrong about that. I just really don't think 731 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 3: that is the case here. You're not wrong that maybe 732 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: the experience is different at home, but I really find 733 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 3: them so different. I don't find them the same. 734 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: I know you don't eat meat, but would you eat 735 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: mazzarella sticks and then have a veggie cheeseburger after that? 736 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 737 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: Oh you would. Okay, I think it's a lot of cheese. 738 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: It is a lot of saying like I thought you 739 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,319 Speaker 1: would like very maybe like no onion rings or let's 740 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: just do I'll do. I don't know what another substitute 741 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: of veggie is, So you're not the right person. 742 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 3: Mozzarellisticks last night, and then I had a margerite, a 743 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 3: cheese pizza. 744 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: That doesn't. Yeah, that's it's it's too much for me. 745 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: That's I like the least separation of it. But I 746 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: will take in the home run derby, and obviously I'll 747 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: take in the All Star Game tomorrow because there will 748 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: be great moments, but it will be a different watch. Jerry. 749 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: Appreciate your your time and consideration. We aren't going to 750 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: name names on who voted for who, but I know 751 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: I know what was split. I mean, obviously, if Jason 752 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: says he's the deciding vote, he voted for you, right, 753 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: we don't no, no, no, what okay yea yeah aheah exact. 754 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: As much as you would like to keep it anonymous, 755 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: at least it wasn't unanimous. Mancy. I hope to do 756 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: it again with you tomorrow. 757 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 3: Me too. 758 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: It's not good luck on Jerry duty. She's Monty on dance. 759 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: Could you know I'm right