1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Day eight of training camp is getting started right now, Brian, John, 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: who were you most impressed with since the. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Pads have gone on Tuesday? 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: What are you saying? 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: We are you most impressed with since the pads of 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Walker and the. 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 3: Way that he's played in one or one matchups. 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have gone with Walker, but Brian took it, 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: so I'll go so far with a hesitant understanding and 10 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 4: needs to show more. Uh, calebon Chase Don has looked 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 4: awfully good at times. 12 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am. It's August third, and we are 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: in day eight of training camp. 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: Who's a live look. 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: They're getting out there, getting stretching, getting going, and we're 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: got you covered with all of your jags Am news 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: that you need today. Now we did mention pads went 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, so things have been a little bit different 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: this week, and not necessarily players you've been seeing, but 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: it's a different vibe now right. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 2: It feels like it's officially started. 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: I think that's true. I think you've got guys that 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: understand that now they're expected to perform, not that they 24 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: weren't before, but the evaluation takes on a different level 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 3: here and John, we'll start talking about another week or two, 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: the reps start becoming more and more precious for the 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: guys who are on the bottom of the roster because 28 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 3: they become fewer and fewer as we get closer to 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: the start of the season. 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt, And I thought, I think everybody who 31 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: watched it thought that yesterday's practice was a little sloppy. 32 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: But Ryan o'haller ran from the Buffalo News he used 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 4: to be here with the Floda Times Union kind of 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: came to me afterward and laughed. He said, how many 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: times have we seen it where the second day in 36 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 4: pads is sloppy because it's always Yeah, they're getting used 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 4: to it again, they've had that one day. You're a 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 4: little draggy, So I expect today to be much better. 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: Kai all right, our big thing number one, and obviously 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: that the pads are on now. Head coach Doug Peterson 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: talked to us yesterday, talked to the media, and he 42 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: talked about at this point in the training camp he 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: likes to just get that physicality out there and kind 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: of set the tone and see what this team will 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: be going forward. 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 5: A camp progresses, right, you want to establish an identity, 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 5: you want to you want to have some sort of 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 5: physicality about you with the pass rush, and so yesterday 49 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: it was just trying to do that, trying to establish 50 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: that physicality, trying to establish you know, that sort of 51 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 5: that persona of who who can we be? 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: I thought that sound by yesterday said everything about how 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: the league has changed. Right when Doug was a player 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: in the nineties, there wasn't some sort of physicality that 55 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: you were trying to establish. That was what training camp was. 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: I mean, far be it from me to sound like 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: the old man in the room, but they used to 58 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: practice twice a day in full pads. Topic manus was 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: out there when there's imagine if you only had one 60 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 3: a day and how well you'd perform. But the reality 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: of it is is that it was all about physicality. 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: That's what the football game is about physicality, and it 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: tells you exactly how a coach has to navigate training 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: camp with limited hitting to protect his salary cap and 65 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 3: his team going forward. It told to me I just 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: that was everything. 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 4: Well, I am the old man in the room, so 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: it's not close to the same. And training camp really, 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: if anybody went to training camp from I started coming 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: nine five from N ten they would not call what 71 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: happens now training camp no, because you go to practice 72 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: in the morning and then you're off the field, especially 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: with the media. 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: I mean, we're at. 75 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: One practice that we don't see anything else for the 76 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: rest of the day, and he used to be two days. 77 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: It's a completely different thing. So it's it's a bunch 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: of practices strung together, but now that you're off my lawn, Kai, 79 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: that's on. The interesting thing about what Doug says is 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: how much coaches have to have a plan now for 81 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: how to get your team physical because there's an acknowledge 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: around the league. You cannot hit I expect him to 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 4: hit hard, mean idea players hitting hard maybe twice sometime 84 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: in the next eight practices, but you cannot do that 85 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 4: every day anymore and expect to survive and get your 86 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 4: team to So you have to plan it out and 87 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: be very careful of how you're going to be a 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 4: physical team. Much different, as you say, Brian, than you 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: used to be well. 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: And it kind of ties into my Caldwell from the 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: day before. The defensive coordinator was asked repeatedly about a 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: tackling plan and how do you practice tackling. You didn't 93 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: even think about it. Back then, you just did it. 94 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: That was part of the day. You were in full 95 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: pads twice a day, and so tackling wasn't even part 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: of it. You really have to think it out, and 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: for all the right reasons. I mean, player safety has 98 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: become a huge issue. You're in the hottest part of 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: the year down here, and you can't afford to replace 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 3: guys in the salary cap e were like you could before, 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: So you got to be smart. It's just a completely 102 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: different approach. 103 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 4: Would you rather be a great tackling team, kay, or 104 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: have Calvin Ridley and Josh Allen to start week one? 105 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: It's a fine line to walk. You want to protect 106 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: your players, the talent that they have out there. You 107 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: want to have them when the season starts. 108 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 3: The old school coaching, I want both. Why can't I 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: have both? 110 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: Uh? Because now if you do that, you're going to 111 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: get your bet fired at the end of the season 112 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 4: for losing players. 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: And being dumb. 114 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: And Doug is not dumb. He's very smart. So it's 115 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: a fine line to walk. And he's doing a great job. 116 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: But do you want to talk a big thing? Number 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: two is year two, right, so for everybody in the 118 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: coaching staff and a lot of these players dealing with 119 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: their system for the second year round. Josh Allen spoke 120 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: to us on the first day of pads and he 121 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: said he's liking what he's seeing so far in terms 122 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: of the game plan and kind of how they're going 123 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: to go about the pass rush differently this season. 124 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: There's a lot of new calls that I really like. 125 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 6: You know, I want to see them every week because 126 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 6: I think they'll really work for us. But in order 127 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 6: to do that, we have to be successful all. 128 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Here one on them. 129 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 6: So you know, I saw new calls, the new plays 130 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 6: that benefits us. Let's let's take it up alot on 131 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 6: k nots. 132 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Brian. 133 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: What do you take out of what he's saying in 134 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: terms of how they're going to try to rush a 135 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: little bit earlier. I mean, we put so much focus 136 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: on the pass rush. That is it simple as that, Well, 137 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: just trying to rush earlier in the downs. 138 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 3: It's mixing things up a little bit. Remember, Mike was 139 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: his it was the first year defensive coordinator. You know, 140 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 3: he had been a linebacker and a linebacker's coach for 141 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: a long time. But when you're actually having to make 142 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: the calls and to adjust, And I think that was 143 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: the interesting part. We talked about Mike Caldwell's lack of 144 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: adjustments at time last year, and he basically said after 145 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: the season and before practice the other day that that's 146 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: just part of the learning curve for him to be 147 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: able to know what his players do well and where 148 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: he can make adjustments. He feels much more comfortable in 149 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: year two, and so the players do, and now he 150 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: knows what Josh Allen likes to do, wants to do, 151 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: capable of doing. Will he feel comfortable rushing the passer 152 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: on first down really going after him? We'll see, even 153 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: that's a quarterback and not a quarterback. 154 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: It's hard to know what they're saying in terms of 155 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 4: how it's going to translate toys sair on the field, 156 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: because they're not gonna give away what they're doing, nor 157 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: should they. I thought the most interesting about what Mike 158 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: Caldwell said about this was how he felt like at 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 4: times last year that I don't want to say, micromanage, 160 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: but tried to make the perfect call every time. And 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: it certainly sounded to me like there'll be more instances 162 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 4: of just letting the players play and trust that if 163 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: you get them in the right defense, generally speaking, more often, 164 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: that there's talent out there to make the plays, and 165 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: that you don't necessarily remember he came from a Todd 166 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: Bowles system where Todd had had infinite experience and it's 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 4: very detailed and it's bringing something new and unique every time. Well, 168 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: I expend to keep doing that, but it certainly sounded 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: to me like he's backing off that a little bit 170 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: and saying, keep it simple, go play football. 171 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: So think also about all the guys who were together, right, So, yeah, 172 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 3: Foyer Lucon who was new last year, lining up next 173 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: to two young players in Chad Mumma and Devin Lloyd, 174 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: and you had a young Trayvon Walker, and you had 175 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: fully fought Tukasi in the middle, and you Andre Cisco 176 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 3: had moved into the starting lineup. Everything was new and 177 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: they didn't know so new coordinator, new players, new scheme. 178 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 4: Trying to be complex. 179 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely, so this year that should all change. So I 180 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 3: think what Josh is really stating is the obvious is, Hey, 181 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: we're ready to take that next step and to be 182 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: a better football team. Now we've got the communication down 183 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: and we understand what the guy next to us is 184 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: capable of doing, and we trust him to do his 185 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: job so that we can do ours. 186 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: You're hoping I'll freeze up a little more creativity, obviously adjustments, 187 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll see something a little bit different. Obviously 188 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 1: what they did, you know, wasn't quite working for him. 189 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: So hopefully this year we'll see something a little bit. 190 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: I thank you because Todd Bowles is super aggressive and 191 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: and I think my cold will will now feel comfortable 192 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: with what. 193 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: He's Scott all right, let's hope. 194 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: So our last big thing of the day is not 195 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: yet we don't have a SoundBite about it necessarily, but 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: it's that, you know, he gets so hyped about training 197 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: camp coming up, and then we talked a little bit 198 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: about it already, but yesterday it was kind of a dud. 199 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: Wasn't a great practice, right, And it was that first 200 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: uh well second practice, the first practice after the first 201 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: padded practice, and he kind of saw a little bit 202 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: of a letdown. And I think it's important for us 203 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: to remind people that as excited as we are for 204 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: football to come back, this is a grind. It's training camp, right, 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: We've talked about they're gonna have those you know, three 206 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: four hard practices right in a row, coming up with 207 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: us in stadium scrimmage on Saturday, and it's just kind 208 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: of tempering some expectations a little bit, not to like 209 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: get anybody less hype, but just be like, yeah, they're 210 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: gonna have an off day. Well, bout today is a 211 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: big day to see, you know, if they can get 212 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: back on track. 213 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: Maybe. 214 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 4: Well we're still five weeks away from the regular season, 215 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: so I'll clarify I said, I said earlier. I thought 216 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: it was a sloppy practice, but I didn't think it 217 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: lacked intensity. 218 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: I think effort was certainly there. 219 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it looked sloppy to us because there 220 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: were a lot of balls on the ground. They hadn't 221 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 4: been on the ground yet. But Brian, you wrote about it, 222 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 4: and I did too. The one on one coverage drill 223 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 4: was as intense as I've seen a drill this practice, 224 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: I mean, uh, this training camp. And I was struck 225 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 4: in trying to write it later. I was struck by 226 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: how to sort of phrase it. Of I didn't think 227 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 4: they were necessarily not improving just because passes were being dropped. 228 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: There was really hard work between the corners covering these guys. 229 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 4: Between guys getting open. So I thought, I'll bet if 230 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 4: you asked Doug held say, it was a fine practice 231 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: the defense had. This team is not going to drop passes. 232 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 4: I mean, Calvin Ridley I think had four drops. Well, 233 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 4: his history shows us that that's not going to be 234 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: his norms. I don't worry about that. I don't think 235 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: they lost any ground. I don't think you lose grind 236 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: at one, but just part of the problem. You will 237 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 4: see efficiency pick back up as guys get more used 238 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: to be in past. 239 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: I just want to point this out. The first rep 240 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 3: between Calvin Ridley and Tyson Campbell, it was a nasty 241 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: little move that Calvin used to get open and it 242 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: turned Tyson around and Tyson was really hot with himself 243 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: before the second and by the way Calvin dropped the ball. 244 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: The second rep, Tshaye Townsend comes over and grabs Tyson, 245 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: like I wrote, like a boxer and his manager in 246 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: the ring, and across the field here comes Trevor Lawrence 247 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: to do the exact same thing with Calvin Ridley. I mean, 248 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: there was such a competitiveness to it. And the thing 249 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 3: that I loved, which I thought was really good at practice, 250 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: was every other defensive back watched that want to be Tyson. 251 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: They wanted their matchup no matter who they were lined 252 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: up against with right to be as intense as that. 253 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: It sets a tempo and expectation level for how the 254 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: defensive backs are going to play. 255 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was an important moment absolutely, and to 256 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: see one on one, the best of the best going 257 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: against each other, how could you not like improve from 258 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: that and enjoy watching it as well. So hopefully the 259 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: team takes a lot out of that. Coming up practice 260 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: is underway today, we're going to keep an eye on 261 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: things and we're going to talk a little bit about 262 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: some of the lesser talked about players that are trying 263 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: to make this fifty three man roster. Welcome back to 264 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: jack Sam. We're sponsored by Sutteth is Flora's most trusted 265 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: and reliable moving company. Sutus is proud to be the 266 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: official moving partner of the Jacksonville Jaguars. To get a 267 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: guaranteed quote, visit suttith dot com slash Jacks. All right, 268 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the fifty three because obviously everyone 269 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: in training camp wants to make that final roster, and 270 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: there are some names that we don't talk about a 271 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: ton or maybe just people that are doing really well 272 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: in training camp that you didn't necessarily have your eye on. So, Brian, 273 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: who did you want to talk about today that you've 274 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: either seen out there or needs to have. 275 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 3: A really good training guy that I've seen every day 276 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: a young man named Devad Wilson, who is a UCF 277 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: undrafted rookie free agent, a cornerback. He started at Georgia 278 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: and then transferred to UCF. He's a big guy, so 279 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 3: he's got length. He's six foot, he's one hundred and 280 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: ninety pounds, long, arms of big hands. So he made 281 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: plays yesterday. I made three pass deflections on Wednesday against 282 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: first and second team receivers. He was more than holding 283 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 3: his own both sides of the field, middle of the field, 284 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: he was flopping, he was inside. He showed me a 285 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: depth of ability and I was really impressed with the kid. 286 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: And then start talking about special teams, because a guy 287 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: like this, if he's gonna have any shot at the 288 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: fifty three, it's gonna have to be a contribute on 289 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: special teams. Same thing, he can do a lot of 290 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: different things. Gunnar line up inside on coverage teams. He's 291 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 3: an interesting talent. I'm looking forward to the chance to 292 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: actually talk to the kid and figure out if he's 293 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: got the mental makeup for this game. But it sure 294 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: looks like he's a player who's going to be challenging 295 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: at the bottom of the roster for one of those spots. 296 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: Talented kid in john what's looking like a deep group 297 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: of young defensive backs. I know you're not gonna mention him, 298 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: so I will Eric Hamlet, the safety from pitt six 299 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: or seventh round pick. I forget there were so many 300 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: of them. He broke up a couple of passes yesterday 301 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 3: and looked like a guy who was, you know, starting 302 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 3: to get his legs underneath him. So as I watched 303 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 3: you know, Hamlet and Wilson in particular, I said, there 304 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: is a group of young defensive backs and that's important. 305 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: We said this was a storyline for training camp and 306 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: an important one. It looks pretty good right now. 307 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: It's deep. I think you still want them to rise 308 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: and see somebody who will prove it on the field 309 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: that they can't do it. Is that maybe your guy 310 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: John Well, probably not in the sense that Brian's talking about. 311 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 4: I went with Antonio Johnson, and people say, well, I've 312 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 4: heard of Antonio Johnson. 313 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: He said a couple of really good days. 314 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: But remember, it's all about me, and it is. 315 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: Before we started the show. 316 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: It's all about john My approach though, and anybody who 317 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 4: ever listens to me or bothers to read me when 318 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: I expect nothing from rookies, including first round rookies, I 319 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: just don't. Typically they need a year to be the 320 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: impact guy, you think, and so I don't pay much 321 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 4: attention to him in camp exceptsode. Okay, Well, he's gonna 322 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: be around. Antonio Johnson might be an exception, and I 323 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 4: know everybody's excited about him. He's slid in the draft. 324 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: Usually those guys who slide in the draft don't quite 325 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 4: work out because you've heard of them, but there's a 326 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: reason they don't get drafted. 327 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: Right. 328 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: Well, all of a sudden you start watching him in practice, 329 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: and he makes a play every day every day. We 330 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 4: talked this morning, special teams. He clearly is excelling in 331 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: that area. 332 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: Make the team sometimes at the end of a roscie. 333 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah he'll make the team, but it sounds like he's 334 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: gonna be a special team start. 335 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: He's gonna have a rule. 336 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's going to be the nickel 337 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 4: guy that everybody wants him to be this year. Fans 338 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: as me all the time, he's gonna be the nickel 339 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: And talking to Jeff Logham on the field yesterday, we're 340 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: talking about different guys, and he said, you know, just 341 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: don't quite see him being able to cover in that 342 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: nickel spot the way you have to. But as a 343 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 4: future safety, Oh yeah, all of a sudden, and the 344 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: future could be late this year. Yeah, all of a sudden, 345 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: You've got another guy who you believe can be a 346 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: really good position player for you to build as you 347 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: go forward and to help Salary Cavey. He's everything that 348 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: you think you want in a developmental guy. News flash. 349 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: I'm excited about a rookie. 350 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 3: Hey kid. I made a conservation about him earlier this week. 351 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: He was covering in one on ones Jamal agnew that's 352 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: tough for a rookie, but he stayed close enough that 353 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: when CJ. Bethler just tried to drop the ball high 354 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: and into his hands in the end zone, that he 355 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: went up and high pointed the ball and got it away. 356 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 3: It was a tremendous athletic play. And I wrote that 357 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: day this kid's going to have a future, and the 358 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: future could be this year. I really think that he's 359 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: going to work his way into Mike Coldwell's scheme somehow, 360 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: some way. There's no doubt you have your eyes on 361 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: a rookie and are interested in him because he's making 362 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: you beat that. 363 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, not a matter of when, but how quickly with him. 364 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: It really feels like from what we've seen so far, 365 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: at least the person I picked is not a young player. 366 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: In fact, it's fully fought to CAUSSI who came here 367 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: on that three year deal, paid him a bit of money, 368 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: underperformed last year. I think fair to say a lot 369 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: get a caph injury that I think, Yeah, he definitely, 370 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, was lingered. I was hurt by that, and 371 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: then also a new system as well, everybody was dealing with. 372 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: You know, he's a new player to the team. 373 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: But Doug doesn't name check a ton of people, and 374 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: he's brought him up at least two or three separate 375 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: times since camp has begun about being impressed with his 376 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: effort out there, what he's been able to do. And 377 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: if your head coach is seeing you with all that's 378 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: going on and saying how much he's expecting out of 379 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: you in the second year in a system. I think 380 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of pressure on him, but he's 381 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: rising up to that from what we've seen so far. 382 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 4: Well, If he's good Brian and Kot, Yes, then all 383 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 4: of a sudden, you're really good on the interior of 384 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 4: the defense without needing to help in the interior Devon, Hamilton, Foyer, Fightacosi. 385 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you've got three guys where you're 386 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 4: not trying to pinch down, you're not trying to always 387 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 4: help there. That should help what everybody's concerned about, which 388 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: is the pass rush. And then all of a sudden, 389 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 4: you're really good against the run, which usually teams that 390 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 4: are good against the run get better against the pass 391 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 4: rush because they're in better pass rushing situations. So he's 392 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: really important. I admit I was one of those people 393 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 4: last year that maybe had written them off a little 394 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 4: bit as Okay, he's gonna be okay, but not gonna 395 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 4: be an impact guy because he didn't really see it 396 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 4: last year. If he's that, then all of a sudden, 397 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 4: this defense gets better fast. 398 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: You saw it early in the preseason opener against Cleveland 399 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: first series, Roy Robertson Harris, Devon Hamilton and fully fought 400 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 3: Ducossi dominated. Remember that's a powerful running game in Cleveland. 401 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 3: Even if they didn't have their stars in there, those 402 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 3: three guys dominated and fully left that game with a 403 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: calf injury, didn't play again in the preseason, was questionable 404 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 3: for most of the month of September every single you 405 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: know Wednesday injury report, and then he started to get 406 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: into the flow in October. I'm not making ex uses 407 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 3: for him. I think he's got a lot of ability, 408 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 3: and if he stays healthy, I think we'll have a 409 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: chance to see what John just talked about. 410 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, sometimes, guy, you know, sometimes teams in a sense 411 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 4: do a player a disservice. And I'm not saying it 412 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 4: it's malicious or that it shouldn't be done. But when 413 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 4: you don't talk about injuries, which football teams hate to do, 414 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: they do, then all of a sudden, fans and even 415 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 4: media think, well, this guy is not playing very well. 416 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 4: I think Brandon Sheriff fell victim of this last year 417 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: as well. I think both of those guys, Sheriff and 418 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: Podocasi could you know, quote surprise Jaguar or as followers 419 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 4: this year by being really good, because I think both 420 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 4: of them played through things last year. They really held 421 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 4: them back. 422 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to remain to be seen, but 423 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: he could be a linchpant. If he can get that together, 424 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: it could help the rest of the defense come together 425 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: as well. All right, stay with us. Coming up, John's 426 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: gonna answer some of our questions with the ozone mail 427 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: bag and we'll be right here in the Hundai studios 428 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: when you come back. Today's edition of Jags Aam is 429 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville. You can 430 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: step up to luxury Fields Auto dot Com. All right 431 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: now that we are checking out on training camp right now, 432 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: they're getting doing some drills right now. We're I think 433 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: is a longer practice today as well. I know yesterday 434 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: went closer to two plus hours. 435 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: It looks like this is gonna be right at two 436 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 4: if I'm reading the schedule right. 437 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: All right, so another long one for them. We'll see 438 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: how it goes. And you're going to answer our questions 439 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: from the readers because you're so wise and we always 440 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: like when you can impart some wisdom. 441 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: We'll see what the questions, what she wanted from you 442 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: that she's buttering you up that way. She has a 443 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 4: good eye for talent. 444 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: Ord. 445 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: Her first question is from Chris. He says, what happens 446 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: when you add an elite receiver to a top ten offense? 447 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: Asking for a friend, Well, everything, they're all better. Everything 448 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: is good. 449 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 4: There's really three things on this. I think one is 450 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: you get the plays that you get from the guy, 451 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 4: which sounds sort of self evident. But you get special 452 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 4: that maybe you wouldn't have gotten if somebody normal had 453 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 4: been there. I would expect Calvin Ridley, who expect to 454 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 4: be the one, obviously once a month at least, and 455 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: anything about that. That's every four games. It could be 456 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 4: a big difference to make some kind of play where 457 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 4: you go, whoa, I haven't seen that around here in 458 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 4: a long time. We'll think about what that does. It 459 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: gives you seven points in that game, probably big difference 460 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 4: in the NFL, so I think it gives you that. 461 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 4: It also forces defenses to account for them, which obviously 462 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 4: makes everybody else better, which is a real thing. But 463 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: the biggest thing I think a top ten elite guy 464 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: gives you is for the quarterback. You know how a 465 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: defense has to play a top ten guy, so it 466 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: means that you can throw to him when he is open, 467 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 4: and you know when he has doubled that you have 468 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: easy reads for the rest. So I think it gives 469 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 4: the quarterback a much clearer idea of what he's going 470 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 4: to do on each play, which for a young guy, 471 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: and Trevor's going to be great, but he's still young, 472 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: having a comfort when you're back in the pocket can 473 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: be everything. So I think he's going to help immeasurably, 474 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 4: and just intuitively on third and six. Having a guy 475 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 4: where you know he's gonna be and you go back 476 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: there and you're under a blitz and you just throw it. 477 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 4: That's very that's grade school analysis, but I think just 478 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 4: instinctively that's going to help him. 479 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: For a technicals perpective perspective, he gives you spacing, which 480 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: is how modern offenses are constructed. They're trying to get 481 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 3: their playmakers in open space in one on one matchups 482 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: and let their athleticism take over. That's what he gives you, 483 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 3: not just for himself, right, but when you've got him, 484 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: as John alluded to, and the coverage is rule, then 485 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: they're spacing for Evan Ingram's a Jones Christian Kirk Traves 486 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: Etiana to the backfield. He allows you to space a 487 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: defense out and create one on one matchups. 488 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: And very quickly, just thinking about what we saw yes 489 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 4: day in the field, how hard Tyson Campbell had. 490 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: To work to cover him for hard? 491 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 4: Can you imagine having to do the whole game exactly? 492 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 4: So it gives you that, it gives you this feeling 493 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 4: of he's coming at me every you know, everybody on 494 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: the defense. We have to worry about this guy all 495 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: the time, a little bit like when the Jags were 496 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 4: trying to play the Chiefs last year with Kelsey, a 497 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 4: guy you've got to worry about or you are going 498 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 4: to lose. 499 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: And that's a great analogy because Tyreek Hill was the 500 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: ultimate spacer. You were so concerned about where he was 501 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 3: that Travis Kelcey had no problem finding his room in 502 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 3: the field. Same thing with all the other receivers they've 503 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: had there. That's what Ridley gives you. 504 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: All Right, let's get some more advice from John while 505 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: we can. We've got a question from Steven Nashville. He said, 506 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: last year, the Jaguars claimed five players off waivers on 507 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: cutdown Day. Is it possible that the players for all 508 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: fifty three of the final roster spots are currently on 509 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: this team. 510 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, the question veers in the right way, meaning 511 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 4: there's gonna be less angst at cutdown day for this team, 512 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: and I think you will see less bottom of the 513 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 4: roster churn. I don't think it's realistic to think all 514 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: fifty three are here because usually during that cut down 515 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 4: you're gonna lose something. You're gonna want some special teams 516 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 4: guy you've seen, so maybe one, but I don't. Clearly 517 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 4: the roster is better, and these coaches know more about 518 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 4: these guys they've brought that guys they I won't be 519 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 4: as many, but it won't be zero. 520 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: This roster is as good as it's been in a 521 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: long time. I would think if there was a shot 522 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 3: ever to get all fifty three, this is the year. 523 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: You know we were talking earlier about all the young 524 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: defensive backs. I mean those are guys who from a 525 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: special team's perspective, these guys are going to build around. 526 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 3: I'll throw it out there, I say, they don't go 527 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 3: roll roster trolling unless there's this high profile pass rusher 528 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 3: that everybody wants to get their hands on. I say, 529 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: the fifty three or here for the first time. 530 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 4: Maybe in franchise, always that Tim taste and the GM 531 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 4: or a scout. There's always some guy out there, and 532 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: I liked Tim a year ago, so maybe. But yeah, 533 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 4: I think there's a chance. 534 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: There's always a chance, by the way, that might only 535 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: be one week, right, it might be. I think there's 536 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: also something we said. I think this roster in certain 537 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: position groups too, there might be a lot of people 538 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: from this team that don't make the roster here that 539 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: may end up on a roster somewhere else. 540 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: Especially on the O line. I think the O line 541 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 4: is deep with guys who are going to go play 542 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 4: somewhere else. 543 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: It may not be the best offensive line in football, 544 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: but it might be the deepest group of offensive lineman. 545 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: You go look at other training camp rosters and find 546 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 3: me ten guys that you can plug and play, that 547 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: can go from left to right, inside, outside like this group. 548 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 3: I had one coach that I was talking to the 549 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: other day said, it's rare that you've got guys like that. 550 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 3: There may be a lot of other teams that have 551 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 3: superstar players that this team may lack, but one to 552 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: ten this might be the deepest group in the league. 553 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: All right. 554 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: Our last question is also from Steve. He's writing in 555 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and he says, when Antonio Johnson was drafted, there was 556 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: talk of him being a slot cornerback. I feel like 557 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: a lot of experiences needed for that position. 558 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: What do you think? 559 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't worry about his experience in that and 560 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: I sort of left this out of we talkedut earlier 561 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: with him. I don't think it's experienced it's going to 562 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: hurt Antonio's chances to play. I just don't know if 563 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: he's a slot corner in that sense that people think. 564 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 4: You know, if you look at him and Trey Herndon, 565 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: Trey hearn is a cornerback, and I think it's it's 566 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 4: harder than people think to go from safety and then 567 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 4: go play the guys that you would be covering in 568 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: the slot. As a quote, nickel corner is the reason 569 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 4: guys play different positions in his place. So experience wise, 570 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: if a guy can play, you can play, and you 571 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: throw him out there. But I don't think it'll be 572 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: experienced as much as maybe the skill set doesn't quite 573 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 4: match up with what people think. 574 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 3: You know, fifteen sixteen years ago, we had a cornerback 575 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: group here with Rasheen Mathis and Brian Williams, and we 576 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 3: had a nickel corner named Terry Cousin who they drafted, 577 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: didn't draft. They signed him specifically to deal with the 578 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: Colts and the threats that the Colts preceived. And Terry 579 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: was an excellent, maybe the best nickel corner we've ever 580 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: had here in Jacksonville. And I asked him once, what 581 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: does it take. What's the difference? He said, you have 582 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: to have a mindset of being comfortable in the middle 583 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 3: of the field at all times because it's much more congested. True, 584 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 3: you're on an island outside right where you're going to 585 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 3: be embarrassed at times by the way this thing goes 586 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: and you have to forget and move on. But in 587 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 3: the middle of the field, there's so much happening. You 588 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: either are comfortable with it or you're not. And if 589 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 3: Antonio Johnson has it become comfortable with it by this point, 590 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: he might not ever get comfortable. 591 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: I think he can be comfortable in there. I just 592 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's that pure cover guy in 593 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: the NFL listen cornerback experience to play a nickel corner, 594 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: it seems to me would matter. I could be dead wrong. 595 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: I haven't seen it on the field yet. It's just 596 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 4: sort of what I would I would expect. 597 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: There's a big difference between being the nickel corner and 598 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: being a. 599 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: Safety, and his role has yet to be defined, so 600 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: we will see going forward where he ends up playing. 601 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: All right, say well us, we'll talk about what we've 602 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: got coming up the rest of the week. Who's talking 603 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: today and what you have to look forward to. Jags fans, 604 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: do you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home? 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And Calvin Ridley speaking after practice today, 609 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: what are you guys working on, what are you looking 610 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: forward to? 611 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 2: What are you expecting over the weekend. 612 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: I'm starting to get ready for next Saturday's broadcast in Dallas, 613 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 3: my first game, our first preseason game, right, which means 614 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm spending a lot of time with the second and 615 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: third teams, not as much with the starters because they're 616 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: not going to play as much. And you really have 617 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: to know these guys, so really digging in on the backups. 618 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: I'm loving for to Calvin talking to it. I always 619 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 4: enjoy the confidence he brings. Interesting early in camp and 620 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 4: talking to Josh Allen about Calvin when he called them 621 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: a dog and said, look, this guy's the real deal. 622 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: Josh was watching Calvin's first press conference back in the 623 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 4: middle of OTAs and Josh wasn't here, and he said, 624 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 4: I loved his attitude. It spoke to what I was 625 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 4: wanting to do. He's a guy that you wouldn't think 626 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: necessarily think of as a leader, but I think in 627 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 4: the locker room he is a you know, because he 628 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: just got here, but I think he I think he 629 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: can set the tone for all I thinks his locker 630 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 4: room in terms of his confidence. 631 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 3: He's a natural leader. He's the guy that people just 632 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: want to follow because they want to be around him. 633 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: And multiple players we've heard from so far to comment 634 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: on how he practices making them want to practice like that. 635 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in that way, so and every defensive 636 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: back who lines up against him. Practice is really hard. 637 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: You have to she want to get embarrassed. 638 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: Well, and lots of good guys have been already in camp. 639 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, We'll keep an eye on everything. We'll 640 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: be back with you guys on Monday. As always, we 641 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: appreciate you and we'll see soon.