WEBVTT - How did Julie Andrews become the icon she is today? 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:02.280 Next Question with Katie Kuric is a production of I 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:08.479 Heart Radio and Katie Kuric Media. Hi everyone, I'm Katie 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:11.280 Curic and welcome to Next Question, where we try to 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.080 understand the complicated world we're living in and the crazy 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:19.280 things that are happening by asking questions and by listening 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.680 to people who really know what they're talking about. At times, 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:26.760 it may lead to some pretty uncomfortable conversations, but stick 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.720 with me, everyone, let's all learn together. When I told 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.680 people about my plans to interview my next guest, the 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:39.560 response was overwhelming. Everyone I talked to, regardless of their age, 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.040 pretty much lost it. In fact, my twenty two year 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.280 old assistant, Adriana, started crying when he heard the news. 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.520 Not that I blame her. My inner seven year old 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.560 was also freaking out about the chance to interview someone who, 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.400 even after more than six decades, continues to delight kids 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.840 of all ages through some of the most iconic characters 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:05.000 to ever grace the big screen, like Mary Poppins it's superfragilistic, 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:08.200 it's the alidosis, even though the sound of it is 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.840 something quite a fruit, or my personal favorite, Maria the 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:15.040 nun in training turned governess who captures the heart of 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.840 one Captain von Trapp in pre World War two Austria, 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:27.960 A love with the song of Musing. That's right. I 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.680 got to sit down with the one and only Julie Andrews, 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:36.319 who recently published memoir number two about her life in Hollywood, motherhood, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:43.600 and her marriage to the late Blake Edwards. Yeah, he's 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.880 one cool cat too. He directed all those Pink Panther movies, 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.240 among others. But back to Julie's book, which she co 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:54.600 authored with daughter Emma Walton Hamilton's. It's called Homework, and 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.760 it's a funny, moving, surprisingly relatable account of a woman 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:01.840 figuring out her ace in the world, aren't we all. 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.760 We talked about memoir writing, how therapy can change your life, 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:10.440 supporting a spouse, battling addiction, and her friendships with legends 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:13.760 like Carol Burnett and Elizabeth Taylor, all in an effort 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:17.680 to answer my next question, When and how did Julie 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:26.320 Andrews become the icon she is today. Julie, I'm so 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.919 excited to have you here, to be with you, and 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:32.639 I cannot tell you how many people were even more 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.320 excited than I am right now looking forward to seeing 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.160 you all day. You have legions of fans, and what 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:43.959 I found so striking is everyone from your contemporary and 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:49.160 my contemporaries to two young kids that only remember the 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.640 Princess Diaries. Well, no, who live for the sound of music. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:58.799 My assistant Adrianna has thirteen copies of the Sound of 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.080 Music and went to the Sound of Music sing along 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:06.120 for her birthday. Everyone in my office was so pumped 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:08.720 that I was doing this, so thank you. It's a 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:12.079 great pleasure. Let's talk about this memoir. Your first one 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.680 came out in two thousand and eight, so it's been 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.320 eleven years. Why did you decide to publish the second 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.480 installment now? And is there a time frame you had 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.079 in mind or is this just how long it took. Well, no, 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.919 it didn't quite take a living but to take about 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:33.280 three The publishers were patiently waiting for it and postponing 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.320 for me when a day job got in the way 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.960 of writing. Right. But I couldn't have written it without 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.880 my lovely daughter Emma, who actually helped me with the 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:45.119 first memoir as well, and she's the most wonderful collaborator. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:49.400 We've written about thirty books together. I know thirty of 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:53.240 those children books, right, and two of these memoirs, and 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.760 she's the nuts and bolts and I'm all the sort 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.120 of flights of fancies and chapter endings, and of course 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:02.000 it's a story, worry about my life. And she a 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.640 lot of interviewing, and we referred to the journals that 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.680 I kept over the years, and look, thank god for 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.440 stuff online that was over there on the internet. Yes, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.880 you have been journaling for a very long time, quite 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:19.120 a long time. I'm curious. I'm writing a memoir right now. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.920 It's a fascinating experience because it's like therapy, but you're 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.000 the therapist and the patient, I know. And what keeping 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.320 what not include? Do you get him? You know? What 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.840 attitude should it be right? The voice should it have right? 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:38.040 And and also I think it's it's emotional because you're 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.479 reliving some very happy times since some very difficult times 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:44.200 with you more And somebody said to me that writing 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.920 a memoir is like living your life all over again, right, 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.000 And did you keep journals? I didn't. I remember when 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:54.560 I got my job on the Today Show, Jane Chalott, 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.760 who I adored, said listen, I've got one piece of advice, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.160 keep a journal. And I said, that's great advice, Gene, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.880 and then I never did I wish I had. I 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.960 wish I had well the time that I began. It 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:12.279 was a way for me of keeping the good stuff 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.880 and writing down my thoughts so that I had room 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.799 for others because things were coming at me so fast 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:21.880 and so furiously. And you were really before your time, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:26.000 because now it's considered so therapeutic. Yes too, And it 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.039 was for that reason. I think that I did write 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:32.760 just to get it out of my head and onto 0:05:32.800 --> 0:05:34.600 the page so I didn't have to hold it as 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.920 much in my head. I know that, as you mentioned, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.119 your daughter, Emma and you are are quite a team. 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.760 How does the process work with Emma Julie? Does she 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.040 help you? Does she read journal entries and say, oh, mom, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.440 you should really write about this? Or how did how do? 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:54.840 You started with an intensive research and made me a 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.160 timeline of about thirty years. Now you can imagine, you know, 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.880 what did I do when and where and so on? 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.839 And any single thing that she or I could remember 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:09.839 went into that timeline. And then she began to interview 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:14.320 me about certain important pieces, and that would be transcribed 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.240 and then we'd cut an edit and paste, and I'd 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.400 change what didn't feel right. But also once she got 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.160 to the diaries, we decided it would be great to 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.719 just excerpt from the diaries, but cut and prune, of course, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.040 but because they were the absolute truth at the time, 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:33.560 so why not use them. And that helped a lot, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.960 and the internet helped a lot, and old clippings and letters, 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.400 and we interviewed the family, my family, you know, all 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:46.920 the kids, and just in general patched all the places 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.560 in that we couldn't quite remember or but somebody did somewhere, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.000 but thank God for the initial timeline. And then of 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.800 course she was this hugely encouraging presence at my side 0:06:57.839 --> 0:07:02.280 at all times, and they were very stressed times when 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.760 we when we both get kind of tearful and just 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.800 somewhat depressed. And she she made a point of she 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.480 said to me, Mom, you didn't know it, but I 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:12.960 asked you all the difficult questions in the morning so 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.200 that we could end our day a little later in 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.280 the day on a high note, so you didn't go 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.840 to bed and worry too much. It's so sweet and dear, 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.040 that's a lot of mommy and me time. Did you 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:27.720 guys ever, fight? No, not fight. There were huge heated 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:31.080 discussions at times, but we don't actually fight at all. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.400 We finished each other sentences and we laugh a lot. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.000 But we've always felt that we get into an argument 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.320 about something and then one of us realizes that the 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.360 best idea wins, and we have such mutual respect for 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.720 each other that it seems to work out really well. Katie. Well, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.280 you obviously did a wonderful job, And as you say, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:57.480 I think the excerpts from your journals really provide a 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:03.520 certain and lyricism, right, and um, I'd love you to 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.760 read one of them about an experience you had that 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.440 really brought back memories of when you were in Vardville. 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:16.200 That's right. I was making a film with my second husband, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.840 Blake Edwards, whom I was married to for like forty 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.880 one years and knew him for forty four before he 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:26.200 passed away. But we were making our first film together 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.720 and it was in Dublin and there was a scene 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.560 that I had to shoot at the Gaiety Theater, which 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.960 was one of the great old, beautiful music hall theaters. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.280 And my upbringing from age twelve was in Vaudeville, and 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.640 I entered that theater and picked my way over the 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.720 film cables that we were going to be using a song, 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.520 and this is what I wrote. Suddenly I remembered Monday 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:54.520 mornings and band calls, getting my orchestrations down on stage 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.760 in time for rehearsal, placing them to the right of 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.360 the banned books already down ahead of mine. That's the 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.160 other terms on the bill, And waiting my turn, unpacking 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.079 the steamer trunks each week, and climbing endless stairs to 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.719 the wardrobe room at the top of the theater in 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:16.600 order to press my theatrical gowns. The halting, uneasy first 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:21.040 performance on Monday nights and the difficult second houses on 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:26.240 Saturday evenings. The smell of paint, turpentine and dust, the 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:32.960 depressing staleness, and the awful pretense of glamor. And that's 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.440 the way those early days of touring endlessly around England 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:41.160 really was. And that was from a diary entry, yes, 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.600 And I'm so glad I kept it because it brought 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.079 it back very vividly for me, and I just decided 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.959 to keep it in the book. And the writing is beautiful, Oh, 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.959 thank you, thank you. I know you'd write about your 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.800 childhood and the first book, but I want to talk 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.800 a little bit about that because The title of this 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.480 book is homework, and it seems to be a nod 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.680 to the incredible amount of work it takes to build 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.920 and maintain healthy and happy relationships with your kids, your spouse, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.719 your aging parents, and the work and the work and 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.880 the work. I know, family, though, has always been so 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.439 incredibly important to you, Jolie, and I wondered, is that 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.199 because of your childhood and some of the challenges you 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:27.319 faced when you were a little girl. I think it 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:32.760 definitely comes from all that divorced parents and also difficult 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:36.160 stepfather in my life and missing my brother. We were 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:39.599 split quite early in our lives, and it's just so 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:43.040 many things, learning on my feet how to sing and 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:48.120 learning vocally out of thing I guess um also long 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:52.000 separations at least a week at a time when I 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.360 went on the road on my own eventually when I 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:58.079 was about fifteen, and I didn't get educated because I 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.319 needed to earn money for the family and so on. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.000 So yes, home meant the most enormous amount to me 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.760 getting home, being safe, holding them all together, helping to 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:12.480 hold us all together. You have an incredible maternal instinct. Well, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.959 I think it was so necessary. I didn't want to 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:18.839 go backwards in life either. My parents tried, My mother 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.559 and stepfather tried very hard to better our lot. We 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:26.440 were unbelievably poor, but eventually they got a wonderful house, 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:29.040 and we didn't want to lose it, and helping to 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:32.480 make money and contribute to that was essential if we 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.520 wanted to stay in that place, and I did. It 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.320 had a garden, and I could play in the garden 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.160 so often and love to do that. So you held 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:43.160 on to that and said, this is what I want 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.240 from my family. Yes, and I want a sense of 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.679 permanence and a rooted sense. But also it's to do 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.480 with warmth and love and so many things that bind 0:11:55.640 --> 0:12:01.199 people together and makes for a gentler kind, a happier world. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:06.280 And so the first memoir was called Home, and was 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:08.640 much easier in a way, although it was hard to write. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.319 It started from nothing and built to a kind of 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:16.240 big conclusion when I was just about to go to 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.160 Hollywood to do Mary Poppins. It went through my afordable 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:25.080 years and my Broadway years. But this book started at 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.400 a high and then sort of went right and left 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.000 rather than from low to high. And it was a 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.480 much more difficult thing to write because there was so 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.240 much that I was learning about. I decided eventually that 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.920 I would call it homework again, the need to balance 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.320 home and the enormous amount of work that it takes 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:50.320 to learn a new craft about filmmaking in this case, 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.480 and being in a new place and again being away 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.920 from what I felt as home, it became home. Eventually. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:13:01.959 You start with this rejectory of going to Hollywood. So 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:07.000 I want to ask you about getting tapped for Mary Poppins. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:12.200 You were on Broadway, yes, and you were sought out. Well. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:16.400 I was in Camelot with Richard Burton and Robert Goulay 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:25.400 and a wonderful company Envy sent It's beautiful music, lovely, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:28.439 lovely musical. The company heard that Walt Disney was in 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.199 the audience, and I got word that he'd like to 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.280 come back and say hello. And you freaked out. What 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:37.520 did you find out before the performance? Yes, and that 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.599 he was there, And I thought, well, how lovely to 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:44.920 be so social and kind. And he came backstage and 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:47.439 my then husband, Tony Walton was with me in the 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.439 dressing room. He said he loved the show, and then 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.240 he began to talk about this live action animation film 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:57.120 that he was planning based on the books of Mary 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.719 Poppins by Peale Travis. Would I be interested did in 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.240 coming to Hollywood to learn a little more about what 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.679 he planned, and listened to the music and so on, 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:10.680 and I was gobsmacked, said, oh, Mr Disney, I would 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:15.120 love to, but I'm sorry I'm pregnant. And his reply was, well, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.320 that's okay, we'll wait. And I had no idea at 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:23.320 the time that preproduction in a movie takes so long. 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.880 And by the time I had had my lovely daughter, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.920 with whom I now right, the film would be ready 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.440 to roll. And when she was about two or three 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.200 months old, off we went to Hollywood, and I began 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:39.120 this vast new career of which I knew nothing, and 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.520 learn on my feet as I went. You had no 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.760 experience working. Excuse me, I have to add a ps 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:49.560 to this. Disney, in the dressing room at Camelot, turned 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.320 to my then husband Tony and said, and what do 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.360 you do, young man? And Tony said, you explained he 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:59.760 was a designer of sets and costumes. Relatively at that 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.120 I'm unknown, and Disney said, well, then you bring your 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.320 portfolio with you when you come to Hollywood. When he 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.840 saw his portfolio. He hired him on the spot to 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.320 do the sets, most of the sets and all the 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:19.120 costumes for Mary Poppins, and Tony was nominated for an Oscar, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:23.600 as was I on that movie. I mean, how extraordinary 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.400 is that story? I would call that serendipity on steroids. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:33.200 I think you're absolutely right, and that, seemingly, without being 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.120 too pollyanna ish about it, the story of my life. 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.560 One of my mantras is are we lucky or what? 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.960 And it's absolutely true. I had to work so fast 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.080 and learned so hard and race to catch up at 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:52.760 everything that was happening. But those opportunities were extraordinary. You 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.040 had never acted in a movie prior to Mary Carliners 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.720 had lots of Broadway experience or some Broadway experience at 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.120 the time. Because you were still quite young, Julie, old 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.840 were you well? I was, I think about twenty nine 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.960 at that point. I felt much younger than that, believe me, Katie, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.400 And so you, I know, looking back on this film, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:18.080 you notice how self conscious you were. Well, that I 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.840 was self conscious, but oddly, looking at what I did 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:25.240 on film, I was surprised that it looked pretty normal 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.400 and that I pulled it off. Although I was scared 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.160 to death. And the first days of filming, you know, 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.280 how does one behave on film? On stage, I had 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.800 a fair inkling of what to do, but film is 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.080 much more intimate, and there's a camera right on your 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.480 head only and there you are on a fast screen 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:46.640 and then it could be a waist shot or it 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.880 could be over the shoulder shot and lots of green screens, 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:54.480 so much animation and sodium vapor is what they called 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.360 it at the time. Yeah, and Disney had one of 0:16:56.400 --> 0:17:00.680 the best screens in Hollywood at the time because all 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.840 the animation followed long after we finished the movie, so 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:09.120 we had to pretend and imagine and look at birds 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.159 and beyond and you know, Merry go Round, flowers and 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.359 butterflies and all of that. It must have been great, fine, 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.800 but it must have been a pretty steep learning curve 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:23.360 for you. Huge, absolutely huge, and I lapped it up. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.040 It took several movies before I felt I began to 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.880 know what I was doing, and you never do. It's 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.200 a new project every time, and it takes a while 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.200 to kind of slide into home base, so to speak. 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:41.440 And I worked with giants, I mean, wonderful mentors on 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:46.360 Broadway with people like Moss Heart, who was a great 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.560 guy and adorable and kind and who I believe had 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.920 been through a great deal himself in his early life 0:17:54.640 --> 0:18:02.159 and sensed my nerves, my insecurity, and obviously felt it 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.280 was something I could improve on, and worked with me 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.600 one on one and made me into Eliza Doolittle and 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:16.720 from then on we was such great friends. When we 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.879 come back, Julie opens up about her breakout role on 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.840 Broadway and losing that part in the movie adaptation to 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:33.520 Audrey Hepburn Dog I could have done and still big 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:48.320 I could have spend. Before Julie Andrews made the jump 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:51.280 from stage to screen, she first made a name for 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.800 herself on Broadway with starring roles in The Boyfriend Camelot 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.840 opposite Richard Burton and of course My Fair Lady. You 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.800 were in My Fair Lady on Broadway and for about 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.359 three and a half years, which is a lot. Was 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.040 that exhausting, by the way, day in and day two 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:13.399 years on Broadway and eighteen roughly eighteen months in London, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.800 and yes, eight performances a week. You don't see daylight 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:20.600 on a Wednesday at all because of the two shows, 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.960 and then of course on on the Saturday matinee as well, 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.639 and I would go in certainly mid morning to prepare 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.840 for the matinee, and I wouldn't see daylight for the 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:31.399 rest of the day until I came out and it 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.119 was dark at eleven thirty at night, midnight. And I 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:37.159 must say that My Fair Lady is one of the 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.720 hardest I think roles for any actress, because you sing, 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:45.719 you scream, and you talk Cockney. You there are tremendous 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:50.240 dramatic scenes. It's a big marathon every every show. And 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.679 that show ran three hours. They didn't run as long 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:56.320 these days, not quite as long, unfortunately. And I know 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.560 I was angry for you did not kick cast in 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.200 the move be because they wanted a bigger name and 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.640 you weren't as well known. I wasn't known at all 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:08.639 outside of Broadway, And if you look at it one way, 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.440 I was a very small fish in a very big 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.800 pond on Broadway and then not known at all in 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.160 the in the rest of the world. And in those 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:23.120 days movies were made with big stars, and so Audrey 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:25.440 Hepburn got the role of Eliza in the movie of 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.440 My Fair Lady. We became great friends. I just adored 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.879 her that her I was so thrilled. Oh my gosh, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:38.240 she was a UNI CEP. She was, and she came 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:40.720 to the Today Show and she was one of the 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:44.560 most charming, gracious people I had ever met. She walked 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:48.120 around and shook hands with every single person in the studio. 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.560 Having said that it did annoy me on your behalf, Julie, 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.400 that Martie Nixon provided her voice in My Fair Lady, 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.919 and I'm like, come on, man, well listen, it's very 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:01.600 It all worked out hard to be upset when Walt 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.440 Disney comes along not that much later and says, would 0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.520 you like to do Mary Poppins? And in fact, one 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:08.680 of the funny moments in your book is the story 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:12.000 behind your decision to thank Jack Warner at the Golden 0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.639 Globes for not casting you when he Fair Lady. He 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:17.960 was the head of the studio at Warner Brothers. He 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.200 was Warner Brothers for so many years, and I at 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:24.720 the Golden Globes, I did thank him for making it 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.040 possible by not casting me in My Fair Lady, to 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:32.200 win the Golden Globe for Mary Poppins. Finally, my thanks 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.120 to a man who made a wonderful movie and who 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.560 made all this possible in the first place, Mr Jack Warner, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.320 And to his credit, he did get the joke and 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.879 he did laugh. I thought my career might be at 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.760 an end when I said it, But a year later, 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:50.240 of course, you were in the Sound of Music. The 0:21:50.320 --> 0:21:53.639 first three films that I made were not released until 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.800 I had finished them, so I was eventually just loving 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.439 making movies and learning on my feet and and almost 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.600 playing in this delicious sandbox, and nothing had been released, 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:06.320 so I had no idea that they were going to 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.960 be as successful as they were. I remember going to 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:13.240 the Sound of Music at the Ontario Theater in Washington, 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.600 d C. I was seven years old and my family, 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.560 my mom and dad, put us in the station wagon 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.080 in our Easter Sunday clothes and we went to a 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:27.119 matinee and afternoon showing of the Sound of Music. And 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.760 I was so upset when the Nazis came. I'm not 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.400 gonna lie, that was really dramatic for me. But I mean, 0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:38.240 just to think of how that movie has endured. I 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:43.000 think it's probably one of the most classic all the 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:47.160 right values, and it was one of the great beautiful 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.920 Hollywood movies that were shot so beautifully. The sound is 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:57.080 so great. It was crafted immaculately and directed by master, 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.080 directed by Robert Robert Wise, who did West Side Story 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:05.159 and Sand Pebbles and so many other wonderful movies. I 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.240 worked with him in two films, and he was a darling. 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:12.000 I know that you were a little lonely when you 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.320 were filming that movie. You missed your husband. Yeah, well, 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:19.640 he because of the success of his work in Mary Poppins, 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:24.080 he was in instant demand, and he did phenomenal shows 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.280 on Broadway especially, and he did films, but I mean 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.159 shows like Chicago and Pippin and will Rogers follies. I 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:36.639 mean phenomenal designs and costumes for and very new and 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:41.520 fresh and original concepts, and then wonderful movies too. He 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:45.160 did the great Bob Fossey movie. What was it called 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:50.200 All That Jazz? Yeah? Wow, I think he won. He 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:53.320 did win the Oscar for that one. Yeah. An extraordinary 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:56.280 career as well. Yes, and he was so busy, so, 0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.520 of course we were separated a lot, and of eventually 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.200 that did take its toll. We'd known each other since 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:06.840 we were twelve and thirst hometown. Yes, we both came 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.320 from the same village. On the railway line out of London, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:15.359 and I met very early and he was my childhood sweetheart. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:18.480 So I think we allowed for each other to grow 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:22.800 into blossom and didn't take into account, well, neither of 0:24:22.960 --> 0:24:25.680 us really could. We needed money and we had to 0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.480 work and things were happening so rapidly, and it took 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:33.240 a toll, which was that our marriage failed. I'm happy 0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.080 to say that we are friends to this day, and 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:39.280 of course we share our beautiful daughter, who is the 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.640 daughter that helped me write this book. Emma, Emma keeps 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.840