1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Next Question with Katie Kuric is a production of I 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Katie Kuric Media. Hi everyone, I'm Katie 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Curic and welcome to Next Question, where we try to 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: understand the complicated world we're living in and the crazy 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: things that are happening by asking questions and by listening 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: to people who really know what they're talking about. At times, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: it may lead to some pretty uncomfortable conversations, but stick 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: with me, everyone, let's all learn together. When I told 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: people about my plans to interview my next guest, the 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: response was overwhelming. Everyone I talked to, regardless of their age, 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: pretty much lost it. In fact, my twenty two year 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: old assistant, Adriana, started crying when he heard the news. 13 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Not that I blame her. My inner seven year old 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: was also freaking out about the chance to interview someone who, 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: even after more than six decades, continues to delight kids 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: of all ages through some of the most iconic characters 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: to ever grace the big screen, like Mary Poppins it's superfragilistic, 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: it's the alidosis, even though the sound of it is 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: something quite a fruit, or my personal favorite, Maria the 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: nun in training turned governess who captures the heart of 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: one Captain von Trapp in pre World War two Austria, 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: A love with the song of Musing. That's right. I 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: got to sit down with the one and only Julie Andrews, 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: who recently published memoir number two about her life in Hollywood, motherhood, 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: and her marriage to the late Blake Edwards. Yeah, he's 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: one cool cat too. He directed all those Pink Panther movies, 27 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: among others. But back to Julie's book, which she co 28 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: authored with daughter Emma Walton Hamilton's. It's called Homework, and 29 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: it's a funny, moving, surprisingly relatable account of a woman 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: figuring out her ace in the world, aren't we all. 31 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: We talked about memoir writing, how therapy can change your life, 32 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: supporting a spouse, battling addiction, and her friendships with legends 33 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: like Carol Burnett and Elizabeth Taylor, all in an effort 34 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to answer my next question, When and how did Julie 35 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Andrews become the icon she is today. Julie, I'm so 36 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 1: excited to have you here, to be with you, and 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you how many people were even more 38 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: excited than I am right now looking forward to seeing 39 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: you all day. You have legions of fans, and what 40 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: I found so striking is everyone from your contemporary and 41 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: my contemporaries to two young kids that only remember the 42 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Princess Diaries. Well, no, who live for the sound of music. 43 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 1: My assistant Adrianna has thirteen copies of the Sound of 44 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: Music and went to the Sound of Music sing along 45 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: for her birthday. Everyone in my office was so pumped 46 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: that I was doing this, so thank you. It's a 47 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: great pleasure. Let's talk about this memoir. Your first one 48 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and eight, so it's been 49 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: eleven years. Why did you decide to publish the second 50 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: installment now? And is there a time frame you had 51 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: in mind or is this just how long it took. Well, no, 52 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: it didn't quite take a living but to take about 53 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: three The publishers were patiently waiting for it and postponing 54 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: for me when a day job got in the way 55 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: of writing. Right. But I couldn't have written it without 56 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: my lovely daughter Emma, who actually helped me with the 57 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: first memoir as well, and she's the most wonderful collaborator. 58 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: We've written about thirty books together. I know thirty of 59 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: those children books, right, and two of these memoirs, and 60 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: she's the nuts and bolts and I'm all the sort 61 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: of flights of fancies and chapter endings, and of course 62 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: it's a story, worry about my life. And she a 63 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of interviewing, and we referred to the journals that 64 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: I kept over the years, and look, thank god for 65 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: stuff online that was over there on the internet. Yes, 66 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: you have been journaling for a very long time, quite 67 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: a long time. I'm curious. I'm writing a memoir right now. 68 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: It's a fascinating experience because it's like therapy, but you're 69 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the therapist and the patient, I know. And what keeping 70 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: what not include? Do you get him? You know? What 71 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: attitude should it be right? The voice should it have right? 72 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: And and also I think it's it's emotional because you're 73 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: reliving some very happy times since some very difficult times 74 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: with you more And somebody said to me that writing 75 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: a memoir is like living your life all over again, right, 76 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: And did you keep journals? I didn't. I remember when 77 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I got my job on the Today Show, Jane Chalott, 78 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: who I adored, said listen, I've got one piece of advice, 79 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: keep a journal. And I said, that's great advice, Gene, 80 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: and then I never did I wish I had. I 81 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: wish I had well the time that I began. It 82 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: was a way for me of keeping the good stuff 83 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: and writing down my thoughts so that I had room 84 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 1: for others because things were coming at me so fast 85 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: and so furiously. And you were really before your time, 86 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: because now it's considered so therapeutic. Yes too, And it 87 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,039 Speaker 1: was for that reason. I think that I did write 88 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: just to get it out of my head and onto 89 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: the page so I didn't have to hold it as 90 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: much in my head. I know that, as you mentioned, 91 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 1: your daughter, Emma and you are are quite a team. 92 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: How does the process work with Emma Julie? Does she 93 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: help you? Does she read journal entries and say, oh, mom, 94 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: you should really write about this? Or how did how do? 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: You started with an intensive research and made me a 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: timeline of about thirty years. Now you can imagine, you know, 97 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: what did I do when and where and so on? 98 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: And any single thing that she or I could remember 99 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: went into that timeline. And then she began to interview 100 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: me about certain important pieces, and that would be transcribed 101 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: and then we'd cut an edit and paste, and I'd 102 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: change what didn't feel right. But also once she got 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: to the diaries, we decided it would be great to 104 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: just excerpt from the diaries, but cut and prune, of course, 105 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: but because they were the absolute truth at the time, 106 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: so why not use them. And that helped a lot, 107 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and the internet helped a lot, and old clippings and letters, 108 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: and we interviewed the family, my family, you know, all 109 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: the kids, and just in general patched all the places 110 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: in that we couldn't quite remember or but somebody did somewhere, 111 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: but thank God for the initial timeline. And then of 112 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: course she was this hugely encouraging presence at my side 113 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: at all times, and they were very stressed times when 114 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: we when we both get kind of tearful and just 115 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: somewhat depressed. And she she made a point of she 116 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: said to me, Mom, you didn't know it, but I 117 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: asked you all the difficult questions in the morning so 118 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that we could end our day a little later in 119 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: the day on a high note, so you didn't go 120 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: to bed and worry too much. It's so sweet and dear, 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: that's a lot of mommy and me time. Did you 122 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: guys ever, fight? No, not fight. There were huge heated 123 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: discussions at times, but we don't actually fight at all. 124 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: We finished each other sentences and we laugh a lot. 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: But we've always felt that we get into an argument 126 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: about something and then one of us realizes that the 127 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: best idea wins, and we have such mutual respect for 128 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: each other that it seems to work out really well. Katie. Well, 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: you obviously did a wonderful job, And as you say, 130 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: I think the excerpts from your journals really provide a 131 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: certain and lyricism, right, and um, I'd love you to 132 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: read one of them about an experience you had that 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: really brought back memories of when you were in Vardville. 134 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: That's right. I was making a film with my second husband, 135 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Blake Edwards, whom I was married to for like forty 136 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: one years and knew him for forty four before he 137 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: passed away. But we were making our first film together 138 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: and it was in Dublin and there was a scene 139 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: that I had to shoot at the Gaiety Theater, which 140 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: was one of the great old, beautiful music hall theaters. 141 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: And my upbringing from age twelve was in Vaudeville, and 142 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: I entered that theater and picked my way over the 143 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: film cables that we were going to be using a song, 144 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: and this is what I wrote. Suddenly I remembered Monday 145 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: mornings and band calls, getting my orchestrations down on stage 146 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: in time for rehearsal, placing them to the right of 147 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: the banned books already down ahead of mine. That's the 148 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: other terms on the bill, And waiting my turn, unpacking 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: the steamer trunks each week, and climbing endless stairs to 150 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: the wardrobe room at the top of the theater in 151 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: order to press my theatrical gowns. The halting, uneasy first 152 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: performance on Monday nights and the difficult second houses on 153 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Saturday evenings. The smell of paint, turpentine and dust, the 154 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: depressing staleness, and the awful pretense of glamor. And that's 155 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: the way those early days of touring endlessly around England 156 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: really was. And that was from a diary entry, yes, 157 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad I kept it because it brought 158 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: it back very vividly for me, and I just decided 159 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: to keep it in the book. And the writing is beautiful, Oh, 160 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I know you'd write about your 161 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: childhood and the first book, but I want to talk 162 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about that because The title of this 163 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: book is homework, and it seems to be a nod 164 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: to the incredible amount of work it takes to build 165 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: and maintain healthy and happy relationships with your kids, your spouse, 166 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: your aging parents, and the work and the work and 167 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: the work. I know, family, though, has always been so 168 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: incredibly important to you, Jolie, and I wondered, is that 169 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: because of your childhood and some of the challenges you 170 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: faced when you were a little girl. I think it 171 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: definitely comes from all that divorced parents and also difficult 172 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: stepfather in my life and missing my brother. We were 173 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,599 Speaker 1: split quite early in our lives, and it's just so 174 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: many things, learning on my feet how to sing and 175 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: learning vocally out of thing I guess um also long 176 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: separations at least a week at a time when I 177 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: went on the road on my own eventually when I 178 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: was about fifteen, and I didn't get educated because I 179 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: needed to earn money for the family and so on. 180 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: So yes, home meant the most enormous amount to me 181 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: getting home, being safe, holding them all together, helping to 182 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: hold us all together. You have an incredible maternal instinct. Well, 183 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: I think it was so necessary. I didn't want to 184 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: go backwards in life either. My parents tried, My mother 185 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: and stepfather tried very hard to better our lot. We 186 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: were unbelievably poor, but eventually they got a wonderful house, 187 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: and we didn't want to lose it, and helping to 188 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: make money and contribute to that was essential if we 189 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: wanted to stay in that place, and I did. It 190 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: had a garden, and I could play in the garden 191 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: so often and love to do that. So you held 192 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: on to that and said, this is what I want 193 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: from my family. Yes, and I want a sense of 194 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: permanence and a rooted sense. But also it's to do 195 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: with warmth and love and so many things that bind 196 00:11:55,640 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: people together and makes for a gentler kind, a happier world. 197 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: And so the first memoir was called Home, and was 198 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: much easier in a way, although it was hard to write. 199 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: It started from nothing and built to a kind of 200 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: big conclusion when I was just about to go to 201 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Hollywood to do Mary Poppins. It went through my afordable 202 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: years and my Broadway years. But this book started at 203 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: a high and then sort of went right and left 204 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: rather than from low to high. And it was a 205 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: much more difficult thing to write because there was so 206 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: much that I was learning about. I decided eventually that 207 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: I would call it homework again, the need to balance 208 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: home and the enormous amount of work that it takes 209 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: to learn a new craft about filmmaking in this case, 210 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: and being in a new place and again being away 211 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: from what I felt as home, it became home. Eventually. 212 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 1: You start with this rejectory of going to Hollywood. So 213 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about getting tapped for Mary Poppins. 214 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: You were on Broadway, yes, and you were sought out. Well. 215 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: I was in Camelot with Richard Burton and Robert Goulay 216 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: and a wonderful company Envy sent It's beautiful music, lovely, 217 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: lovely musical. The company heard that Walt Disney was in 218 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: the audience, and I got word that he'd like to 219 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: come back and say hello. And you freaked out. What 220 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: did you find out before the performance? Yes, and that 221 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: he was there, And I thought, well, how lovely to 222 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: be so social and kind. And he came backstage and 223 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: my then husband, Tony Walton was with me in the 224 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: dressing room. He said he loved the show, and then 225 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: he began to talk about this live action animation film 226 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: that he was planning based on the books of Mary 227 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: Poppins by Peale Travis. Would I be interested did in 228 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: coming to Hollywood to learn a little more about what 229 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: he planned, and listened to the music and so on, 230 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: and I was gobsmacked, said, oh, Mr Disney, I would 231 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: love to, but I'm sorry I'm pregnant. And his reply was, well, 232 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: that's okay, we'll wait. And I had no idea at 233 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: the time that preproduction in a movie takes so long. 234 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: And by the time I had had my lovely daughter, 235 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: with whom I now right, the film would be ready 236 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: to roll. And when she was about two or three 237 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: months old, off we went to Hollywood, and I began 238 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: this vast new career of which I knew nothing, and 239 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: learn on my feet as I went. You had no 240 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: experience working. Excuse me, I have to add a ps 241 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: to this. Disney, in the dressing room at Camelot, turned 242 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: to my then husband Tony and said, and what do 243 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: you do, young man? And Tony said, you explained he 244 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: was a designer of sets and costumes. Relatively at that 245 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm unknown, and Disney said, well, then you bring your 246 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: portfolio with you when you come to Hollywood. When he 247 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: saw his portfolio. He hired him on the spot to 248 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: do the sets, most of the sets and all the 249 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: costumes for Mary Poppins, and Tony was nominated for an Oscar, 250 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: as was I on that movie. I mean, how extraordinary 251 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: is that story? I would call that serendipity on steroids. 252 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely right, and that, seemingly, without being 253 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: too pollyanna ish about it, the story of my life. 254 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: One of my mantras is are we lucky or what? 255 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: And it's absolutely true. I had to work so fast 256 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: and learned so hard and race to catch up at 257 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: everything that was happening. But those opportunities were extraordinary. You 258 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: had never acted in a movie prior to Mary Carliners 259 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: had lots of Broadway experience or some Broadway experience at 260 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: the time. Because you were still quite young, Julie, old 261 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: were you well? I was, I think about twenty nine 262 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: at that point. I felt much younger than that, believe me, Katie, 263 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: And so you, I know, looking back on this film, 264 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: you notice how self conscious you were. Well, that I 265 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: was self conscious, but oddly, looking at what I did 266 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: on film, I was surprised that it looked pretty normal 267 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: and that I pulled it off. Although I was scared 268 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: to death. And the first days of filming, you know, 269 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: how does one behave on film? On stage, I had 270 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: a fair inkling of what to do, but film is 271 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: much more intimate, and there's a camera right on your 272 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: head only and there you are on a fast screen 273 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: and then it could be a waist shot or it 274 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: could be over the shoulder shot and lots of green screens, 275 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: so much animation and sodium vapor is what they called 276 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: it at the time. Yeah, and Disney had one of 277 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: the best screens in Hollywood at the time because all 278 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: the animation followed long after we finished the movie, so 279 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: we had to pretend and imagine and look at birds 280 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: and beyond and you know, Merry go Round, flowers and 281 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: butterflies and all of that. It must have been great, fine, 282 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: but it must have been a pretty steep learning curve 283 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: for you. Huge, absolutely huge, and I lapped it up. 284 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: It took several movies before I felt I began to 285 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: know what I was doing, and you never do. It's 286 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: a new project every time, and it takes a while 287 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: to kind of slide into home base, so to speak. 288 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: And I worked with giants, I mean, wonderful mentors on 289 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: Broadway with people like Moss Heart, who was a great 290 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: guy and adorable and kind and who I believe had 291 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: been through a great deal himself in his early life 292 00:17:54,640 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: and sensed my nerves, my insecurity, and obviously felt it 293 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: was something I could improve on, and worked with me 294 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: one on one and made me into Eliza Doolittle and 295 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: from then on we was such great friends. When we 296 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: come back, Julie opens up about her breakout role on 297 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: Broadway and losing that part in the movie adaptation to 298 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: Audrey Hepburn Dog I could have done and still big 299 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: I could have spend. Before Julie Andrews made the jump 300 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: from stage to screen, she first made a name for 301 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: herself on Broadway with starring roles in The Boyfriend Camelot 302 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: opposite Richard Burton and of course My Fair Lady. You 303 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: were in My Fair Lady on Broadway and for about 304 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: three and a half years, which is a lot. Was 305 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: that exhausting, by the way, day in and day two 306 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: years on Broadway and eighteen roughly eighteen months in London, 307 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: and yes, eight performances a week. You don't see daylight 308 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: on a Wednesday at all because of the two shows, 309 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: and then of course on on the Saturday matinee as well, 310 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: and I would go in certainly mid morning to prepare 311 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: for the matinee, and I wouldn't see daylight for the 312 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: rest of the day until I came out and it 313 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: was dark at eleven thirty at night, midnight. And I 314 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: must say that My Fair Lady is one of the 315 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: hardest I think roles for any actress, because you sing, 316 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: you scream, and you talk Cockney. You there are tremendous 317 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: dramatic scenes. It's a big marathon every every show. And 318 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: that show ran three hours. They didn't run as long 319 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: these days, not quite as long, unfortunately. And I know 320 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I was angry for you did not kick cast in 321 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: the move be because they wanted a bigger name and 322 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: you weren't as well known. I wasn't known at all 323 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: outside of Broadway, And if you look at it one way, 324 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: I was a very small fish in a very big 325 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: pond on Broadway and then not known at all in 326 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: the in the rest of the world. And in those 327 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: days movies were made with big stars, and so Audrey 328 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: Hepburn got the role of Eliza in the movie of 329 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: My Fair Lady. We became great friends. I just adored 330 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: her that her I was so thrilled. Oh my gosh, 331 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: she was a UNI CEP. She was, and she came 332 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: to the Today Show and she was one of the 333 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: most charming, gracious people I had ever met. She walked 334 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: around and shook hands with every single person in the studio. 335 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: Having said that it did annoy me on your behalf, Julie, 336 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: that Martie Nixon provided her voice in My Fair Lady, 337 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: and I'm like, come on, man, well listen, it's very 338 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: It all worked out hard to be upset when Walt 339 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: Disney comes along not that much later and says, would 340 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: you like to do Mary Poppins? And in fact, one 341 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: of the funny moments in your book is the story 342 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: behind your decision to thank Jack Warner at the Golden 343 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: Globes for not casting you when he Fair Lady. He 344 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: was the head of the studio at Warner Brothers. He 345 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: was Warner Brothers for so many years, and I at 346 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: the Golden Globes, I did thank him for making it 347 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: possible by not casting me in My Fair Lady, to 348 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: win the Golden Globe for Mary Poppins. Finally, my thanks 349 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: to a man who made a wonderful movie and who 350 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: made all this possible in the first place, Mr Jack Warner, 351 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: And to his credit, he did get the joke and 352 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: he did laugh. I thought my career might be at 353 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: an end when I said it, But a year later, 354 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: of course, you were in the Sound of Music. The 355 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: first three films that I made were not released until 356 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: I had finished them, so I was eventually just loving 357 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: making movies and learning on my feet and and almost 358 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: playing in this delicious sandbox, and nothing had been released, 359 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: so I had no idea that they were going to 360 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: be as successful as they were. I remember going to 361 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: the Sound of Music at the Ontario Theater in Washington, 362 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: d C. I was seven years old and my family, 363 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: my mom and dad, put us in the station wagon 364 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: in our Easter Sunday clothes and we went to a 365 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: matinee and afternoon showing of the Sound of Music. And 366 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I was so upset when the Nazis came. I'm not 367 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: gonna lie, that was really dramatic for me. But I mean, 368 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: just to think of how that movie has endured. I 369 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: think it's probably one of the most classic all the 370 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: right values, and it was one of the great beautiful 371 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: Hollywood movies that were shot so beautifully. The sound is 372 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: so great. It was crafted immaculately and directed by master, 373 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: directed by Robert Robert Wise, who did West Side Story 374 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: and Sand Pebbles and so many other wonderful movies. I 375 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: worked with him in two films, and he was a darling. 376 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: I know that you were a little lonely when you 377 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: were filming that movie. You missed your husband. Yeah, well, 378 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: he because of the success of his work in Mary Poppins, 379 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: he was in instant demand, and he did phenomenal shows 380 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: on Broadway especially, and he did films, but I mean 381 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: shows like Chicago and Pippin and will Rogers follies. I 382 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: mean phenomenal designs and costumes for and very new and 383 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: fresh and original concepts, and then wonderful movies too. He 384 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: did the great Bob Fossey movie. What was it called 385 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: All That Jazz? Yeah? Wow, I think he won. He 386 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: did win the Oscar for that one. Yeah. An extraordinary 387 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: career as well. Yes, and he was so busy, so, 388 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: of course we were separated a lot, and of eventually 389 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: that did take its toll. We'd known each other since 390 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: we were twelve and thirst hometown. Yes, we both came 391 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: from the same village. On the railway line out of London, 392 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: and I met very early and he was my childhood sweetheart. 393 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: So I think we allowed for each other to grow 394 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: into blossom and didn't take into account, well, neither of 395 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: us really could. We needed money and we had to 396 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: work and things were happening so rapidly, and it took 397 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: a toll, which was that our marriage failed. I'm happy 398 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: to say that we are friends to this day, and 399 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: of course we share our beautiful daughter, who is the 400 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: daughter that helped me write this book. Emma, Emma keeps 401 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: popping up. She does, and she she did, and she does. 402 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: Thank God. Do you ever tire of talking about the 403 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: sound of music? Not really? How much fun though, was 404 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: it to perform all those extraordinary Rogers and Hammerstein phenomenal 405 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: and well, first of all, singing with the fast orchestra 406 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: is magical. My singing teacher once said Katie that singing 407 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: with a great orchestra is like being carried aloft in 408 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: the most comfortable armchair over the orchestra and the sound, 409 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: and she was absolutely right. That was the great joy. 410 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: But then to give you my favorite song, I think 411 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: it has to be one that I didn't sing, and 412 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: that was Edelweiss because again, excuse me, it speaks to 413 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: one's homeland, whoever you are. It's not just about Austria, 414 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: It's about any place that you call home. You know. 415 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Bless my Homeland Forever is the lyric, and it has 416 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: one of the classic Richard Roger's melodies. Think of Oh 417 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: what a Beautiful Morning. It's one of those melodies that 418 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: simply folds back on itself and it's very simple and 419 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: Edelweiss and Oh what a Beautiful Morning, and several others 420 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: have that quality, and they're timeless. The melody is so 421 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: clear and clean and simple and lends itself to the 422 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: most wonderful orchestration. I wish I had the opportunity to 423 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: have met Richard Rodgers and ask her hammers just such 424 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: brilliant giants. Again, I walked with giants. I know. The 425 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: hills were alive with the sound of helicopters. That opening 426 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: scene was a bit challenging, wasn't it. You would never 427 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: in a million years was the last thing we shot 428 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: in the movie too, and and and it was tough. 429 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: Tell me about how hard it was. Well, simply the 430 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 1: very very first time that I'm revealed on film is 431 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: walking as a very small speck across the field and 432 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: making this turn before I begin to sing. That's all 433 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: I had to do was walk and make a turn. 434 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: And it was shot from a helicopter. I started at 435 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: once end of the field, and the helicopter with a 436 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: very brave the cameraman strapped at the side of it 437 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: through the door that was no longer there. And this 438 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: this thing was from the other end of the field, 439 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: was coming at me sort of like a giant crab 440 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: in a way, sideways, with this wonderful caraman hanging out 441 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: the side of it, and the camera strapped his chest, 442 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: and I walked toward him, and he helicoptered his way 443 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: towards me, and then I made the turn, and then 444 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: the helicopter went up and around me to go back 445 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: for another take, because either I wasn't on my marks, 446 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: or he didn't feel he had gotten the right shot, 447 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: or it wasn't. I mean, we had to have a 448 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: few in the in the bank in the case of 449 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: an accident, and and and focus and so on. And 450 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: every time that helicopter went around me to go back 451 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: to his end of the field, the down draft from 452 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: those helicopter engines just flattened me into the grass. Did 453 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: you say the outtakes they have been saved. I've seen 454 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: one of them, but I don't know who has it. 455 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: I wish, you know, if anybody out there that knows 456 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: where they are. I'd love to see it again. I 457 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: would love to see I have seen it, though, And 458 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, after the third or fourth time, you you 459 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: get so angry that you're you know, spitting grass and 460 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: some mud and so on, and you I kept signaling 461 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: to the helicopter pilot could he make a wider turn? 462 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: And I only got a thumbs up? And let's do 463 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: another one, you know. Up next, Julie gets candid about 464 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: her forty year marriage to the brilliant but complicated Blake 465 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: Edwards and reminiscence about some old friends, including Elizabeth Taylor 466 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: and Carol Burnett. I want to ask you about Blake Edwards, 467 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: who seems like he was the coolest guy he was? 468 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: Was he charismatic, wicked sense of humor? I mean wickedly dark? 469 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: And and may I say he was? He was? He 470 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: was sexy, yes he was, or believe me, he certainly was. 471 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: And I miss him dreadfully. But as he'd be the 472 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: first to say, what else are you going to say? 473 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: Because I'm a darling. Well, you know, I think did 474 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: you learn much about balancing your your career and your 475 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: marriage because of growing sort of apart from your first husband, Tony? 476 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: And what did you learn that allowed you to keep 477 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: your marriage to blake intact? I think probably, as is 478 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: true with most second marriages, you really, really this time 479 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: want to make it work. It does take two people. 480 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: You can't just have one wanting it or anything like that, 481 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: but it takes two to work at it. And I 482 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: think we both wanted to stay together, and I'm so 483 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: thrilled that we did. I adored him. He was very complicated, charismatic, complicated, 484 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: and had a very depressive personality at times. It wasn't 485 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: manic depressive. He was just prone to depression and also 486 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: later in his life towards opioids and things like that, 487 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: but tried so hard to get off them and get 488 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: back to the way he was when we first met. 489 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: And you can give anybody for saying sorry and trying 490 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: that hard. You write a lot about addiction in your 491 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: family with unflinching honesty, and I just thought of it 492 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: helped anybody identify and say well, then I can I 493 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: can manage that about your stepfather your mother both amusing alcohol. Yeah, 494 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: your brother was a drug addict. As you mentioned, Blake 495 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: Edwards had become reliant on Painkilly had issues. Certainly, were 496 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: you at all hesitant to do that? Yes? And I 497 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: hope I showed every side of Blake because it wasn't 498 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: just that like borne it if if it had been, 499 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to show all the humor and the the 500 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: laughter that we shared and it was great at times, 501 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: and those are the things I cling to and remember, 502 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: and I I mean, I still adore him to this day, 503 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: no matter what. I know that. You're also very honest 504 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: about therapy, because this is something that you started doing 505 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: when you were living in Los Angeles in the nineteen sixties, 506 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: and you talk about what a positive impact it had 507 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: on your life. People didn't talk openly about being in therapy, 508 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: and in fact, it's a relatively new phenomenon. Well I 509 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: don't know how new it is these days, but I 510 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: remember my mother saying, what you know, thinking that you 511 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: only went into therapy if you were totally mad or 512 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: something like that. In my certainly my hometown in Walden 513 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: on Thams, nobody I think at that time talked about therapy, 514 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: but I wanted to clear the chaos in my head. 515 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: And it made me understand so much more about my 516 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: childhood and put it in perspective, and forgive so much 517 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: about my family and my parents, and understand people a 518 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: lot more. I think I was a better wife and 519 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: mother and so many things because of getting rid of 520 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: that garbage that you carry around that you don't need 521 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: to carry around and staying focused on essentials. You were 522 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: racked with self doubt and I know a lot that 523 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: you had impostor syndrome really throughout much of your life, 524 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think that before. Well, it's sort of 525 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: not thinking you deserve something and that you don't understand 526 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: why you're being came more from not having had an education. 527 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to have gone to college and and had 528 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 1: a really good education. But that very smart therapist realized 529 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: that's what I need, did and eventually decided to help 530 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: give me one. And in fact, he really became your 531 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: de facto college did he was Merlin. He could tell 532 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: me about a very expensive college professor, I might add 533 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: worth worth it all read. So you all would talk 534 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: about history and art and all kinds of geology and 535 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: astrology and just anything. He'd bring it up or I'd 536 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: bring it up, and God, I wish I had absorbed 537 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: a more, but what I did get was phenomenal. And 538 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: did it give you a lot of self confidence then, 539 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: feeling that you were more learned at least I could 540 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: converse about things a little better. And yes, it did 541 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: help enormously. Of course, you mentioned a lot of very 542 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: special people in this book, so I thought we could 543 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: play a name game. Let's spill the tea, as the 544 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: young people say today, I guess that means let's dish um. 545 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: Carol Burnett, great chum, godmother to my daughter Emma. We 546 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: us such good friends. I think there's something that's very 547 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: similar in our childhoods. She also came from an alcoholic family, 548 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: and we just bonded instantly, like two kids that discover 549 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: they live on the same block. And we've been friends 550 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: for years. You played a prank on Mike Nichols that 551 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: backfired miserably or hilariously. Hilariously not miserably. Now he won 552 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: that one hand. Now, yes, tell us, Okay, that's a 553 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: good tease. Get the book. By the book, you talk 554 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: about the ultimate Hollywood moment with Betty Davis. It's on 555 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: page seventy eight. Do you mind reading now? It's a 556 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,240 Speaker 1: very sweet It's not very long. I was talking about 557 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: the opening night of Sound of Music in New York, 558 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: I think, and I wrote after the screening, during the 559 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: crush in the lobby, I suddenly saw Betty Davis approaching me. 560 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: I had never met her before, though I was a 561 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: huge fan. As we shook hands, she said, you, my dear, 562 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: are going to be a very big star. I had 563 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: always imagined that she might be crisp or loof, but 564 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: her warmth and generosity just bowled me over. That must 565 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: have been an incredibly exciting moment for a young actress. Yeah, 566 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: and I've I've always been such a fan of hers 567 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 1: and her work. And she was funny and lovely, and 568 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: I mean we didn't talk for very long, but what 569 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: a generous thing to say. You mentioned Elizabeth Taylor talk 570 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: about bold face names. I've always wanted to be you, 571 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: Julie Andrews. But you described a scene on boxing day 572 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,879 Speaker 1: on vacation of Europe, and you are talking about bold 573 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: face names, I mean, nold coward. You mentioned we went 574 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: to supper with David Niven and Nol Coward and Richard Burton. Well, 575 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: excuse me, well I did. I did. Obviously I knew 576 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: Richard and a little bit Elizabeth from from having done 577 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: Camelot with Richard and Nol. Coward had come backstage several times, 578 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: so I felt I knew him. David Niven was a 579 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: good friend of Blake's and had done Panthers, so it 580 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: was a good group. Must have been fun. What was 581 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor like? I got to interview her once, By 582 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: the way, I'll tell you what she I mean, you 583 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: were friends. I just talked to her and she taught 584 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: me how to keep lipstick from getting on my teeth. 585 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: She said, you take your index finger and you kind 586 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: of form an oh with your mouth, and then you 587 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: just pull your your finger out of your mouth and 588 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: it takes the lipstick off so it doesn't get on 589 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: your teeth. WHOA, thank you, Elizabeth, Yes, thank you. We'll try. It. 590 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: Was she fun, and I know she was showing off 591 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: a diamond, right. She was fun, and she she was 592 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: actually a really good gal. She was a good egg, 593 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: as they say, I mean she she was down to 594 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: earth in a very good way, and she was kind 595 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: of racy, right, yeah, And she'd been through it all, 596 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: but that Christmas, this was boxing day of the day 597 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: after Christmas, and Richard given her this enormous ring and 598 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 1: she just sort of flashed it at us and said, 599 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 1: look at what Richard gave you. It's a bit of 600 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: a giggle, isn't it. And Blake said it was enough 601 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: to sort of make him a communist instantly, But it was. 602 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: She said it with such a smile and a sense 603 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: of humor, you couldn't be upset by it. Christopher Plumber, 604 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: you write that he was a bit out of pocket 605 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: while filming The Sound of Music. Julie, do tell how 606 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: does that mean? Did I out of pocket? Um? What 607 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: did I mean? Well? I think he was a little 608 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: He loved his red wine and sometimes after the day 609 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: was over he would drink quite a lot. Is that 610 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: what you meant? Yes? Yes, But but my god, he 611 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: was the glue that really pulled the Sound of Music together, 612 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: because here's a stringent quality, took away so much of 613 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: that saccharine that I was worried about. Right, And he 614 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: was such a lovely actor to work with. I mean, 615 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: he's a great chum. We giggle a lot and remember 616 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: each other's birthdays and Christmass and things like that. This 617 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: book goes up to the nineteen eighties, so obviously there 618 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: is another memoir come because you need to talk about 619 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: all the that you went through when you had the 620 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: vocal surgery and what that was like, and then seeing 621 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: in the Second Princess Diaries and discovering a whole new 622 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: life and a somewhat new career in terms of writing 623 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: with Emma and so on. Yeah, I guess you're saying 624 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: there'll be another book. And if you just asked me 625 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: in about a month, when I've recovered from this one, 626 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled. Well, I think people never never get 627 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: tired of hearing from you and the extraordinary stories of 628 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: your life. Well, I just know that you know that phrase. 629 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: Are we lucky or what? I've really been so blessed. 630 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: My mother used to say there are hundreds of people 631 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: out there that can do what you do just as well, 632 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 1: so you work hard and and be grateful, and it 633 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: was great advice. Well, we're lucky because of it. I 634 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: went on a little long and Julie's manager was getting 635 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: pretty annoyed with me by this point, but before I 636 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: let her go, I had an important favor to ask, 637 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: so we were going to do something really fun. You guys, 638 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: are you okay with time? We were going to do 639 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 1: to something. Jennifer Garner is such a die hard fan, 640 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: and so I arranged to surprise her. I met her 641 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: and interviewed her for my podcast. Can you just call 642 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: her and say hello? Real quickly? Okay, Hello, Hello? Is 643 00:39:51,400 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: this Jin? Yes, this is Julie Andrew's Jin. Hello. I 644 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: want to tell you I'm a huge fan and love 645 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: what you do. And Katie was just telling me that 646 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: that you were pretty admiring of me too, so I thought, well, 647 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: let's just have a chat. Oh my god, how are you? 648 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: Why haven't I ever met you, jenn I would love 649 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: to and one day I saw you from Afar once 650 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: but I couldn't. I couldn't just you know, put it 651 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 1: into words, and I couldn't. I couldn't possibly be normal, 652 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 1: And so I just admired. But I like getting you 653 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of yours washing up or something like that. 654 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: Certainly not miss Andrews. I would pull over and leave 655 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: my children on the side of the freeway. Um, it's 656 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: Katie there, Yes, she's all the other Okay, So Jennifer 657 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: posted watching Sound of Music and totally fan girling and 658 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: it was so cute, and so I had wrote on 659 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: her Instagram page, I'm interviewing Julie Andrews. Come with and 660 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: she said, don't mess with me, Katie, and so so 661 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: we planned this, Jen So ask her a question. Chat 662 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: for a second, and I'm going to let out you 663 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 1: know what, Julie Andrews, Miss I have just called. Okay, Well, um, 664 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: I've read my kids with you and I because I 665 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: was raised on you and I as weds everyone you 666 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: know in the world. But here's the thing. Your book 667 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: I love. I mean, the children's books completely real to me. 668 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to read your new book. It's I 669 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: cannot wait. It's I can't wait. But proc and the 670 00:41:54,920 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: the last of the really great wing doodles I've read aloud, wife, 671 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: and I love it. I'm so pleased you do, because 672 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: I loved doing that. It's it's it was. It was 673 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 1: my second book, and it oh gosh, that was such 674 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: a thrill to write it and to see it published. 675 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: And it's stayed in publication too, stayed in publication. It 676 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: is it is an our house. We talk about those 677 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: characters and Mandy and the dump truck and that you know, 678 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: but especially Mandy and lasted really really great Wang do 679 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: we speak about them like their family friends and my kids. 680 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 1: For them to even connect that that you wrote those 681 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: is so wonderful because it helps them see that you 682 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: can really be a full person, that just because you're 683 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: a performer, it doesn't mean that you that that's all 684 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: you do. They you know, they love knowing that that 685 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: that my fair lady and that um Mary Pop, that 686 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,120 Speaker 1: all of them are the same person playing some one 687 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: else and also is an author. Well, thank you. What 688 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: a great, great compliment, and it's just so lovely, and 689 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: I think it means more. Odd Oddly, I don't mean 690 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 1: to be dismaraging to anybody else, but when somebody says 691 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: they liked one of my books, it really is a 692 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: thrill because it's I'm still learning on my feet about writing, 693 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 1: but but I'm thrilled when somebody says they loved my 694 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: book or it was one of their favorites or something. 695 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: And I'm here talking to Katie today about this second 696 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: book of memories, and so I hope you enjoyed that 697 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: one too, for yourself, not for your kids or how 698 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: old your kids now they're thirteen, ten and seven. Well, 699 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: they get around to it one day, but you can. 700 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: I want the I want the two of you to 701 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: meet and have lunch at some point um and maybe 702 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: I'll join if I'm on the better past, and it 703 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: would be so much god my here. Yes, yes, I 704 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: feel like I did a little match making. I did 705 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: a little Mitz buzz all right, lots of love and 706 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: we'll see for lunch, see you again, and I hope 707 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: I'll meet you again. Yes, I really do hope so 708 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: much love. Thank you. I can't wait to the bye bye. 709 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening everyone. 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