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Speaker 1: Remember Noah Hiles talked about this a couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: for the Mariners and Brewers, respectively. The Pirates proposals are

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Speaker 1: one eleven mili deal. Griffin's camp wants something closer to

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Speaker 1: Roman Anthony's eight year, one hundred and thirty MILLI deal.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, Aja, If I'm the Pirates and

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Speaker 1: I think I have a shot to close in with

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Speaker 1: my pants over twenty million bucks. We're locking in a

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Speaker 1: superstar for a decade. It is not going to make

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Speaker 1: a difference. If you think he's going to be what

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Speaker 2: Give him the damp. You know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: AJ Literally right now, I'm picking up the phone and saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: Bud one thirty one, it's yours. We're gonna give you

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Speaker 1: an ounce of Big league ball. I don't give a crap.

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Speaker 1: We believe in you lock it in. Surplus value will

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Speaker 3: Okay, two things. First of all, Buster Posey tweeted this,

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Speaker 3: I'd be amazing that he oops is in the uh

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Speaker 3: is in the pirates block or cod I mean that'd tampering.

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Speaker 3: That tampering. Oh, that would be tampering. I'd be smart

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Speaker 3: if he could get into other teams O bus there only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was fun Barston Judge, Hey, I give you credit.

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Speaker 2: I correct you guys. I want you club.

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Speaker 3: I was like when you said that, I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: Buster Posey knows what the pirates are doing. That is amazing.

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Speaker 3: He is everywhere. So anyway, and then the other thing is,

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Speaker 3: do you think if he signs this extension he's into

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Speaker 3: big leagues? No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, you buffoon? No you backwards had buffoon. He

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Speaker 4: hasn't even had success. Did you not even watch any

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Speaker 4: of us at bats? What is your problem? You look

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Speaker 5: There's no way that's how it works.

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Speaker 3: By the way, these made me looking churecrats because I

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Speaker 2: The wait, is that the thing they used, like to

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Speaker 4: Of those were those were curled up and you could

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Speaker 3: Yes, listen, I think the Pirates should do this. We

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Speaker 3: even heard rumors of this in spring training when I

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Speaker 3: I didn't think it was this high of a number.

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Speaker 3: But yes, he's twenty years old.

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Speaker 2: Do this? Do it?

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Speaker 3: Do it show the Pirates fans that you are actually

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Speaker 3: I'm a Pirates fan, yes.

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Speaker 4: If I'm the Pirates, yes, And actually, aj he's not

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Speaker 4: twenty years old yet. We have to wait till April

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Speaker 4: just amazing, It is amazing, And this does more than

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Speaker 4: truly going to be. You have ideas, you have scattering reports,

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Speaker 4: all that stuff, but you know what it gives. Let's

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Speaker 4: say it's a nine year deal. It gives the fans

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Speaker 5: To get rid of them.

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Speaker 4: Like, this is a deal that to me not just

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Speaker 4: It gets goodwill with the fans that I think are

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Speaker 2: Here's my problem, AJ.

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Speaker 1: We saw this in the off season with the Pirates

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Speaker 1: you're going after someone like Kyle Schwarber, you can't go

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Speaker 1: look at what the market says. I think the same

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Speaker 1: If you look at your team and you look around,

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Speaker 1: you go off comps. These deals get done off of comps.

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Speaker 1: Roman Anthony looks like he's going to be a star

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Speaker 1: I'm Connor Griffin, I can't ask for one fifty plus,

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Speaker 1: So I think, if I'm his camp and the pirates

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Speaker 1: Or like, let's say right now they're at that stopping

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Speaker 1: get it, you're still getting rich. You're getting one hundred

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Speaker 1: But Roman Anthony was five seconds into his career.

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Speaker 3: You know what he should get? What one more million

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Speaker 3: he should get more. If he's as good as in

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Speaker 3: he's going to be this, then he should get more

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Speaker 3: So he actually, to be honest with you, I think

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Speaker 3: Bob nutting, I think you should pay him. Pay the man.

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Speaker 3: Bob what they say in rounders, by the man his money,

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Speaker 1: He signed it on August sixth, talking about Roman Anthony,

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Speaker 1: he was forty six games in and it was eight years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred thirty million dollars. A twenty thirty four club

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Speaker 1: option for thirty million dollars would make it nine years,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty million dollars. You're getting a decade

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Speaker 5: It's it's very clear cut. This is what happens. This

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Speaker 4: Maybe you can argue that in spring training you are

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Speaker 4: offering low one hundred million, Yeah, low hundreds of millions

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Speaker 4: And you think I'm going to be a star. You

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. Do you think that there's league

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Speaker 3: Or shouldn't be. Would the league would want him to

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Speaker 3: I would think the league would want the Pirates to

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Speaker 3: sign him to this deal because they're going to be like, man,

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Speaker 3: if this guy becomes the dude we think he is,

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Speaker 3: then you're actually saving the rest of the team's money.

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Speaker 3: So I see what you're saying, Scott, But I would think, again,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that because I'm not a league guy,

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Speaker 2: On board with this because it raises the number for

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Speaker 3: Also saved them. I agree, but a ton of money

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Speaker 1: It's a massive difference, and the Blue Jays actually had

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Andrew Painter's debut while we worked through

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Speaker 1: some tech fun Kratz take it away, baby, because the

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Speaker 1: Phillies look like they have something good and it took

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Speaker 1: gets a good amount of innings in Triple A. The

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Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna watch every single Andrew Painter start.

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Speaker 2: So you're just like, Oh, I don't know, is this

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Speaker 1: He was number one or two pitching prospect in baseball

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Speaker 1: One was a double that was like basically a pop

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Speaker 4: All right, So you have to go back as a

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Speaker 4: Why is you know, everybody just believing so much in

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Speaker 4: It's the fact that his athleticism is something that zero

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Speaker 4: His mechanics are very clean for a six foot seven pitcher,

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Speaker 4: This is a guy who learned it early, went through

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Speaker 4: he adds something that this team could desperately need. I'm

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Speaker 3: For the last three years.

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Speaker 4: You know, lover hate him, Philly, he's gonna be that guy.

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Speaker 4: And so really you're looking at it, you go, crap.

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Speaker 4: If Painter doesn't do well, oh great, now we got

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Speaker 4: a sinch as we got to rush Wheeler back. Phillies

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Speaker 4: will be fine. They're gonna score some runs. But this

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Speaker 4: that's lineup's not the best. But I like what he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't hurt when you get your first big

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Speaker 2: This moment for him.

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Speaker 1: And then just overall, I mean, he was able to

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Speaker 1: And also I would say this is probably a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Or disagree with me if you want.

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Speaker 2: He's not the kid that just was.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know he was thirteenth overall pick, but

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Speaker 2: So he's been punched a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes guys come up, they come up so quickly nowadays

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Speaker 1: they really haven't gone through any adversity for.

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Speaker 4: Sure, And sometimes the first adversity that elite stars and

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Speaker 4: You don't go through the same things that set you know.

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Speaker 4: We're having Max Munsey on the show here in a

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Speaker 4: like this dream scenario. It had Andrew Paynter not gotten hurt,

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Speaker 4: whoa this guy it was? I think it was a

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Speaker 4: Tigers they faced. This guy's outing was unbelievable, was poised,

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Speaker 4: his ability to throw strikes. It's just as where withal

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Speaker 2: Hey, better than box scores. Let's run it.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the Red Sox who fell yesterday to

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Speaker 1: the Astros. Another Jordan Alvarez freaking tank to the second deck.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that stood out from that game in

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Speaker 1: terms of virality was Mark Wegner forgetting the count and

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Speaker 1: he apologized afterward, totally.

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Speaker 2: Accountable for it.

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Speaker 1: AJ was a swinging strike for camp Smith that should

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Speaker 1: have been strike three, ends up eventually walking in the AB.

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Speaker 1: I do want to show this tweet as we're talking

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Speaker 1: about it with Alex Korra sitting Narvaiez today. I don't

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Speaker 1: think this has anything to do with it. But my

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Speaker 1: question is, while we're talking about the catcher not in

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Speaker 1: the game, where is the catcher and where's the pitcher

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Speaker 1: and where is everybody when something like that happens. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's just on the umpire in that case.

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Speaker 1: And this is the tweet for the Red Sox game today,

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Speaker 1: Chorus saying, uh, narvaias Carlos out of the lineup, who

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Speaker 2: But Chorus said it's not a physical thing.

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Speaker 1: That was according to Narbias, and he was asked if

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Speaker 1: it was disciplinary, and he basically just said he wanted

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Speaker 1: to keep it internal. So we don't really know what's

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Speaker 1: going on there. But anyway, your thoughts, well, first of.

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Speaker 3: All, I mean why Narvaia's was bench, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't comment on that. So if he was benched

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Speaker 3: or not bench, whatever, that's good that alex cor is

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Speaker 3: keeping it in house. And then second of all, I

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Speaker 3: anytime that I was catching or hitting and the catcher

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I got this, dude, he's not he's not engaged.

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Speaker 3: At no point in my career do I think I

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Possibly, but when I was catching, especially if I forgot

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Speaker 3: the count, then there was I was like not there. Mentally,

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Speaker 3: I knew every pitch, every count, what was happening, where

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Speaker 3: I find it odd that everybody on the field could

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Speaker 3: where people like, oh, it's ball four, and I'm like, well, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: it's ball three. Let's go back, And there was times

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Speaker 3: anytime I saw someone forget the count, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And also my bad just on narvaias so he was

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Speaker 1: cleared that part out. So it was technically that's on

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Speaker 1: Connor Wang and the Red Sox staff and all of that.

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Speaker 1: So it didn't have to do with mister Narvia's and

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Speaker 1: must be something else going on there. Krats, Have you

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Speaker 5: Not that I can think of.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as confident as AJ is about it, but

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Speaker 5: I see it in high school.

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Speaker 4: Now I see it in college as I'm watching college games,

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Speaker 4: like if you're not locked in enough to know that count,

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Speaker 5: You can't just look at the scoreboard like that is.

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Speaker 4: That's the times when I've had the discussions with the

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Speaker 5: Like I don't know I'm like, well, where's your clicker?

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Speaker 4: Like, to me, that's a it's a pretty egregious mistake.

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Speaker 4: Like that's a punch out, that's strike three. How the

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Speaker 2: The Red Sox also learned some other tough news this morning.

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Speaker 2: Tristan Cass has had a setback, so he's going to

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Speaker 2: miss more time. Here's the tweet from Tim He who

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Speaker 1: He said setback in the form of sore ribs. Alex

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Speaker 2: Down for a while.

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Speaker 1: We have to slow it down, so AJ, the injury

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Speaker 3: kind of lost track of him other than him running

435
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Speaker 3: around like Spider Man put the mask on and doing

436
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Speaker 3: all the other stuff that he does. Like, what was

437
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: the injury? I know he hurt his leg a couple

438
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 3: of years running down the first lower body.

439
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, ruptured Pateeller tendon. That was last year, second last year. Yeah,

440
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: after a month into the season.

441
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Speaker 3: And then how did the ribs come up? Where did

442
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Speaker 3: the rib injury come up?

443
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Speaker 2: That's a recent thing that just popped up that caused this.

444
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Speaker 1: You know, that's the current setback here, because otherwise, I mean,

445
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: they were definitely hoping to get him back, you know,

446
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: in the first half, let alone maybe within the next

447
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Speaker 1: few weeks.

448
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Speaker 2: I think that was.

449
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Speaker 1: Always the plan was, I want to say, April early

450
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: May kind of range, even if you're giving them a

451
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Speaker 1: little extra time. So in my mind, they've prepared for

452
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Speaker 1: life without him. I mean, that's why you pick up

453
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Speaker 1: contrarasts in the off season, isn't it. I mean, they

454
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Speaker 1: technically don't have open space for him, and I think

455
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Speaker 1: the Red Sox in the off season technically moved on

456
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Speaker 1: and said it would be a bonus if he's a

457
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Speaker 1: bench bat for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not counting on him. That's why you go

459
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Speaker 3: get Wilson Matures, because you're counting on him to play

460
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Speaker 3: first base. They're not planning on Tristan Casts to help him.

461
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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I mean I watched a little bit

462
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Speaker 3: of the Yankees or about the Yankees, the Dodgers Guardians

463
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Speaker 3: game off night and the laughter who's off to hot

464
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 3: star foul ball office foot and had to come out

465
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Speaker 3: of the game. I don't know. I didn't hear any

466
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Speaker 3: update on him, but he was another guy that was

467
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Speaker 3: constantly injured in the minor leagues. Like you can't help

468
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Speaker 3: anybody if you're constantly hurt. I'm not questioning anybody's paying tolerance,

469
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 3: but at some point you got to be about some substance.

470
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Speaker 3: You can't just be about you know this, and then

471
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Speaker 3: I have this and I do this and I do that.

472
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Speaker 3: At some point she got to get on the field

473
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Speaker 3: and play, and the later was off to a great

474
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Speaker 3: start this year. Unfortunately, he you know, fell him off

475
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Speaker 3: his foot last night. But if you're Tristan costs until

476
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Speaker 3: you get back on the field, like I don't even

477
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Speaker 3: want to hear about it, like it's I'm sorry, like

478
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Speaker 3: you just it's when guys don't want to do interviews

479
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: and don't want to do things when they're hurt because

480
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: you just want to hide in the background, unil you

481
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Speaker 3: can get back out there and play. That's the way

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Speaker 3: I feel that, you know, Tristan costs is at this

483
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Speaker 3: point is is, yes, could he help the Red Sox possibly,

484
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Speaker 3: But I don't know because he never is healthy enough

485
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Speaker 3: to play ever the game.

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Speaker 4: The game always moves on injuries, non injuries, prospect, failed prospect,

487
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Speaker 4: whatever it is. For Tristan Costas, I watched him. I

488
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Speaker 4: played for I worked with the Red Sox just as

489
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Speaker 4: like a you know, kind of like a special assistance

490
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Speaker 4: to player development. And I got to go in and

491
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Speaker 4: I got to watch him work in Double A. I

492
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Speaker 4: got to watch his like daily routine. I went to

493
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Speaker 4: watch the Double A team. I'm not sure how many times,

494
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Speaker 4: but it was quite a few times more than the

495
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Speaker 4: other levels. And I would say he does a lot

496
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Speaker 4: of things right. He's worried about his nutrition, he gets enough,

497
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: he talks about getting enough sleep, his hydration, like things

498
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Speaker 4: you don't normally see at a Double A level, let

499
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Speaker 4: alone from like a twenty one twenty two year old kid.

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Speaker 5: So I think he has a lot of the right

501
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Speaker 5: things in place.

502
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Speaker 4: It's now a matter of how can he figure out

503
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Speaker 4: how to stay on the field and be a contributing

504
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Speaker 4: member year in and year out to this Red Sox lineup,

505
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Speaker 4: or the Red Sox will have to move on because

506
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Speaker 4: every day you're not out there as a player, not

507
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 4: Tristy Costas, but every day you're not out there as

508
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Speaker 4: a player, the team has to move on.

509
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Speaker 5: Very few players are so good that.

510
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Speaker 4: They're like, we're gonna hold everything up here, We're just

511
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Speaker 4: gonna find a little stop gap and then we'll be

512
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Speaker 4: back when you're back. That that doesn't happen, So that's

513
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Speaker 4: a tough, tough issue with injuries, prospects, and young players.

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Speaker 1: I'm show I think the most talked about human in

533
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Speaker 1: baseball right now is c B.

534
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Speaker 2: Buckner. Would you guys agree, yeah?

535
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Speaker 3: I mean he's always been talked about inside people. People

536
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: have known CB. You trust me, there have been crats

537
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: will agree. Crats will tell you this. There was a

538
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: long time where you would look at the umpire sheet

539
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: and you'd be like, oh, we get CB this weekend.

540
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: Behind the plate, someone's getting ejected. So I mean, listen.

541
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Speaker 3: CEB is a nice guy to talk to, but he

542
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Speaker 3: had his He had some not good days behind the

543
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Speaker 3: plate at times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get to his next for a behind

545
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: the plate unfortunate situation for him. But let's start with

546
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: what we were just showing everyone. He missed a call

547
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: AJ last night that was a true head scratcher for everyone.

548
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Jake Bower's foot on the bag, No problem.

549
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: Didn't touch it end up challenging, not even close, Scott.

550
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: Said, didn't touch the bag and touch it? I agree

551
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 2: you Actually, you know what that part didn't even surprise me.

552
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: That CB was off on the call and that if

553
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: you look at his eye contact, it was at home played,

554
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: or maybe there were somebody in the seats that was

555
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: more interesting than the game.

556
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Clearly didn't touch the base. I don't know what you're

557
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: looking at, but I'm looking right at it.

558
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: Tell me what you see on the picture on the

559
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: left side of the screen, Aja explained to the podcast crowd.

560
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 3: I see Jake Bowers clearly missing the bass and c

561
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: B Bucker totally getting this call correct because he is

562
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: looking directly at the base where he should be, instead

563
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: of at the ball that's going flying all over creation.

564
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Speaker 1: It was a very April Fool's answer of you right there,

565
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: Jake Powers stepped on the middle the middle of the base.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what the craziest thing for me is,

567
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Speaker 1: AJ they it took about during that game because I

568
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Speaker 1: was checking it out live. It took about two minutes.

569
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Speaker 1: I didn't count exactly and I was like, what the

570
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: hell is going on here? Two minutes for New York

571
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: City to give an answer. I was like, it's one

572
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: thing for c B to be wrong. We deal with

573
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: that all the time. I was like, that should be

574
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Speaker 1: a pen second turn round.

575
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Speaker 4: They were, they were, they were challenging another game. There

576
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: were there was something something going on. There was no like,

577
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Speaker 4: it's not something has to have happened. The whole fact

578
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: of this play is the fact that CEB's not looking

579
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Speaker 4: at the right place. We just had this issue in

580
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Speaker 4: our in the high school game that I was coaching

581
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: in now yesterday, but it was last Friday. A kid

582
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Speaker 4: missed first base on a home run. My first reaction

583
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Speaker 4: is I look to watch the guy touch the base.

584
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 4: It's like something that just innately happens. He missed his

585
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Speaker 4: first base. And the second glance I give is to

586
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Speaker 4: the home plate umpire, who has that play, not the

587
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: base umpire. Base umpire has the home run call, and

588
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: I look at it and the home the home played

589
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 4: umpire is doing exactly what CEB is doing, watching the ball.

590
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 5: What is it?

591
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: And so if you're not looking at the right thing,

592
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 4: to me, you have to go back and hey, let's

593
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 4: let's revisit this. Cebe like, let let's revisit the basics

594
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 4: that you used to work on when you were coming

595
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: up through the minor leagues and then into the big leagues,

596
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: because this is a blatant This isn't like ah man,

597
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: I kicked it. I kicked it. The timing was terrible.

598
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 4: This was I kicked it because I'm not looking at

599
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: the right place. And if umpire is not in the

600
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 4: right location, if they're not shifting, it makes all the

601
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: other umpires look bad. So they don't want him to

602
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 4: screw up like this either.

603
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Speaker 3: But by the way, speaking of this, I've seen this

604
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: happen a couple of times, and I don't know if

605
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 3: it's ever happened in the big leagues, but high school games,

606
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: kids miss home played on home runs because they're so

607
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,959
Speaker 3: excited to do their jump around, their boom, their whole thing.

608
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: It happened a few years ago against us in high school,

609
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Speaker 3: and we appealed it and the guy was called out

610
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Speaker 3: and we were on the road and almost a you know,

611
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: a melee broke out because they couldn't believe it. And

612
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 3: then last night the high school my son went to

613
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: a kid hit his first career homer and I sent

614
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 3: a picture to the dad of Hey, nice homer, congrats.

615
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Make sure he touches homeplate. And I ain't saying the

616
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: kid missed home play, but if he touched it, it

617
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: was by a tenth of an inch with the tip

618
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: of his cleat like we see on the ABS challenge

619
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Speaker 3: marks Now it was bad.

620
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Speaker 5: Like just step on the.

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Speaker 3: Middle of the plate. I don't understand why we this

622
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: is such a hard concept to get. Just step right

623
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: in the middle of the play. You can jump up

624
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: and down on home plate if you want. Just make

625
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 3: sure you touch it right.

626
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Speaker 1: That seems to be the easiest part of the sport.

627
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: It's the one part that everyone could do. It is

628
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: really hard for the average human to hit a baseball,

629
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Speaker 1: but it is very easy for anyone to step on

630
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Speaker 1: a base Also, aj isn't Cebee's job at first to

631
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: be watching the foot hit the bag. And I guess

632
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: for if potential obstruction, like why is he wandering? You

633
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: know ass people say into left field as a term,

634
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: like he is wandering into outer space with his eye

635
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: contact And we all saw that. And that's where I

636
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: get to a point and say, is he passed his

637
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: prime right?

638
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: And he started doing this at nineteen nine, ninety nine,

639
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: and the league essentially bought out Angel Hernandez. They might

640
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: have to do this here with CB. It's one thing

641
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: to have the issue behind the plate, and again we'll

642
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: get to his next game behind the plate here, which

643
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: he really isn't going to participate in. But does the

644
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: league need to step in and make sure that he's okay.

645
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: No, they'll recommend him, they'll take away postseason stuff. I

646
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: think isn't not how they do it. But I don't

647
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: know if they're going to make him retire.

648
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: I basically did that to Angel Hernandez.

649
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: And Hernandez also got tired of hearing about it. Angel

650
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Speaker 3: Hernandez was the brunt of it for so long, and

651
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Speaker 3: now CV is about to It seems like CEB is

652
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Speaker 3: about to take that. Angel Hernandez didn't go because he

653
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 3: wanted to go. Angel Hernandez went because he was probably

654
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: just tired of hearing it everywhere he looked in every

655
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Speaker 3: place anyone that recks like oh, Angel Hernandez or stumpire

656
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: and Baseball. Even though I'll be honest with you, I

657
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: never really had a problem with Angel Rnandez. Angel was again,

658
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 3: I never really had a problem with CB because you

659
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 3: kind of knew what you were going to get when

660
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: you went into the game, just didn't let it bother you.

661
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: Now the problem is with abs and with replays and

662
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: all that, they're just put out there more in the

663
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 3: open than they would have been in years past.

664
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Speaker 4: This is this is agregious in my opinion, it's egregious.

665
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 4: I think Angels stuff he was if he was pushed

666
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Speaker 4: out of the league. You know, maybe he got sued

667
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 4: maybe you know, I mean that he he sued the

668
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: league before because he didn't feel like he was being

669
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Speaker 4: treated fairly. I think there's different things that go to me.

670
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Speaker 4: The CB play is egregious in the sense of it.

671
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 4: It would be like somebody who's a bad driver, Well,

672
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Speaker 4: you speed and you keep getting caught speeding, that's not

673
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: a bad driver. Like if you're just if you're making

674
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: right turns on rent, like you're just blatantly not doing

675
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 4: things correctly. That's way different than calling balls and strikes

676
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Speaker 4: in correctly. So like a play like this, I think

677
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: there has to be some type of reprimand not a suspension,

678
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: but just accountability. We have the abs to keep the

679
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 4: umpires accountable. Players are in this league because they do well.

680
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: They get sent down. When they don't do well, they're

681
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: being held accountable. The umpire should be held accountable when

682
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: you're caught in the wrong position looking over here at

683
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: the ballfly and your one job on that play is

684
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 4: to see the play at first. The home played umpire

685
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 4: has the ballflight in case it goes out of play,

686
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: in case it's illegally touched by the catcher, whatever there is.

687
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 4: He has that Like, obstruction isn't even CEB's call. The

688
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 4: entire play all the way up to the base is

689
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Speaker 4: the home played umpire's call. So if there's obstruction, if

690
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: it something hits the run or something, CB was caught

691
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: watching the ball not the base.

692
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why it's concerning going forward where he's

693
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Speaker 2: going to be. So he went super.

694
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Speaker 1: Viral last weekend and we covered it at length. He

695
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: had twenty six missed calls. He was six for eight

696
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: on being challenged and getting overturned. I think the most

697
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: anticipated game of the year in the first weekend change

698
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: of this season was him behind the plate for start

699
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Speaker 1: number two or for home plate ump number two appearance

700
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: for him this year, unfortunately. Now this is where we

701
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: take a turn and get the human side of things.

702
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: We hope that he's okay. Adam Mcalvey tweeting this while

703
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: our show is going on, and this is probably why

704
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: a bunch of people just jump back to our show,

705
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: because some people were watching just to see how crazy

706
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: it would get and how much animosity there would be

707
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Speaker 1: between him and Kevin Cash and Pat Murphy who are

708
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: already were talking and laughing about CB behind the plate.

709
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 2: CB was struck. So he was struck flush on the

710
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 2: face mask by a foul tip.

711
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Speaker 1: So he was removed from the Race Brewers game that

712
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: started maybe thirty ish minutes ago, about forty minutes into

713
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Speaker 1: the showtime for us.

714
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Speaker 2: So we hope that he's okay. In all seriousness, of.

715
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Speaker 3: Course, of course, this is not a personal thing at all.

716
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: This is a no.

717
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: I mean as a player people, you know, which hopefully

718
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 3: people never wish bad things upon other people. I mean personally,

719
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm talking about now. Professionally, you can root against somebody

720
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 3: or say someone's not doing a good job. But I

721
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: hope in life no one ever roots against somebody on

722
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 3: a personal level to get her to do bad. All

723
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: that stuff. That's just that's just not cool for me.

724
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: No, and most of the replies to Adam's tweet, we're

725
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: in that realm.

726
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: Hey I hope this guy's okay, or hey, I know

727
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: I talk a lot of shit about this guy, but

728
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Speaker 1: as a human being, I hope he's okay.

729
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: So the CB, we're thinking about it. We're going to

730
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 2: do our show. We're going to be critical of umps.

731
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Speaker 1: That's part of what we do, right, is that we

732
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: just talk about the game baseball the way it should

733
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Speaker 1: be covered.

734
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: But hopefully it's okay.

735
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: So we and yes, for purposes of watching that game,

736
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Speaker 1: it's not CB behind the plate. So we just saw

737
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: the one time here really behind the plate from him

738
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: where it was messy, and I'm sure he'll.

739
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: Get back at some point and that'll be the storyline again.

740
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Speaker 1: One more thing from that series that I just want

741
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: to shout out because we won't have time anywhere else.

742
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: And then we'll get to our next guest. Shane McClanahan

743
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: is back. He had not pitched in a major league

744
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: game since August of twenty twenty three, about a thousand

745
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: days out of baseball. He's gone through a lot. He

746
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: was at the time a top three or five pitcher

747
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: in the sport. People thought he's going to be a

748
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: sight young contender every year. Just like krat said, the

749
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: game doesn't wait for you. It's crazy how quickly it

750
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: can pass you. If injuries occur, hopefully he'll be able

751
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: to stay on the field. Now let's do some shout outs.

752
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: We'll start with the Aids, last team to get on

753
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: the board this year, so they're one in four. They

754
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: won in Atlanta. I was referring to that game where

755
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: Drake Baldwin and I think he's got three homers already too, AJ,

756
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: But you know who has four homers? Shay Bangaliers, a

757
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: former Braves organization dude making his old organization pay. He

758
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: looks really good to start the year. And I know

759
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: you mentioned him as the next great potential extension candidate

760
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: for the A's or.

761
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: Kurt or Nick Kurtz. Now the different Langoleers got some

762
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: years in now, right, So there that's a little bit

763
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 3: of a difference. But I mean him are Kurts. If

764
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: I'm an A's fan, I'm like, hey, you're signing all

765
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: these guys, how about these other two dudes that are

766
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 3: pretty good? So theys actually have some stuff to look

767
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: forward to. They for some reason, they just always suck

768
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year. I don't know what

769
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: we joked with Katsay, my buddy Kotsay about this. It's

770
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: when we saw him in spring training. But gosh, if

771
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: they I mean they have they have some legitimate talent

772
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 3: on this team. Now, today they ran into Chris Sales,

773
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: so you know that didn't go so good. But the

774
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: A's have legitimate talent on this team.

775
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Langoleers is easily the most underrated catcher in the game.

776
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 4: I think the fact that you add power, he's the fastest.

777
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: Now that JT's lost a step, JT can still run,

778
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: but Shay Langeleers is the fastest sprint speed. He's now

779
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: started the season off with four dingers, and I think

780
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: I think he might be pricing himself out of Oakland.

781
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: He's got just over three years of service time, so

782
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 4: he's going to go to arbitration two more times here

783
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: after after this year. I think he's making five points something.

784
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: I should look it up before I say it. But

785
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: he's only going to get more expensive. But now you're

786
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 4: talking about what does that look like like? What does

787
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: that look like the other catchers in the game. Is

788
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: he as good as Will Smith? No? But if the

789
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: if Sacramento not Oakland, if Sacramento has to pay close

790
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: to Will Smith money for him to buy it out,

791
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 4: like you'd have the catcher of your of the future

792
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: for the A's or else. He will be a major,

793
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 4: huge coveted piece that could possibly be traded. Not this year,

794
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 4: but bookie it next year.

795
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Another team to talk about out West. The Diamondbacks took

796
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: down the Tigers. That was one of the better games

797
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: on Tuesday night, and we saw the rookie debut of

798
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: Jose Fernandez, who went two for four with two home runs,

799
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: including the go ahead shot in the bottom of the

800
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: eighth that led to the seven to five win for

801
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. Aj they were down five to one in

802
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 1: the bottom of the eighth, Fernandez was already one home

803
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: run into his performance. Casey Meies was fantastic, by the way,

804
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: for the Tigers, the bullpen led it up.

805
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: Corbyn Carrol had a big two run.

806
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: Knock and then Fernandez with the two run home run

807
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: off a ninety two mile an hour Kenley Jansen Cutter.

808
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean that kid had the debut of anyone's dreams.

809
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: I think there have been less than ten people who

810
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: have made their debut on a two homer game. I

811
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: think the number was eight ever in baseball history.

812
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Tiger's bullpen just fell afar best and Kevin

813
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 3: Jansen gave up six last night. You're not gonna see

814
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 3: that very often, but it happened last night and the

815
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: Diamondbacks took advantage of it. And good for Fernandez. And

816
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: what a debut. Like you said, Skuy, you don't see

817
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: that very much. Listen something. I mean, I remember my debut.

818
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: I only got to a bat, so I didn't get

819
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 3: two homers, that's for sure.

820
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Speaker 4: A lot of people don't know about Jose Fernandez, and

821
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 4: I'm one of them. When I watched his first homeer

822
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 4: live yesterday, I was like, Wow, this dude in the box,

823
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: he looks like create a player. So I went on

824
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 4: Baseball Reference. He's listed. Clearly, Baseball Reference does not know

825
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: a lot about him because he's listed sixty three one

826
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Speaker 4: sixty five. My guy has put on a few pounds

827
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Speaker 4: since Baseball Reference just checked in with them. But the

828
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Speaker 4: fact that he had two homers in his big league debut.

829
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Speaker 4: Right now, he is the twenty three thousand, six hundred

830
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Speaker 4: and thirty six player to play or throw a pitch,

831
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Speaker 4: taking a bat or throw a pitch in a big

832
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 4: league game, and less than ten guys have done that

833
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 4: in their debut is absolutely incredible.

834
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,879
Speaker 2: Wow, he does not look one sixty five.

835
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 5: He's not one sixty five.

836
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: That is a large, creative player that was signed out

837
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 4: of Venezuela and like kind of floundered for a few years.

838
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: Like it's okay if it takes guys a little bit

839
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 4: longer and burst on the scene. That's the way to

840
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: make sure you're staying in the big leagues and maybe

841
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 4: getting a few more at bats here and there.

842
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: Yep, a couple things on our way out.

843
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: Number one may Day is back today, so you'll get

844
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: a live Trevor may coming up after our show, which

845
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: is done in about ninety seconds. To make sure you

846
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: check it out. Trevor does a lot of what we

847
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: do as a one man show, so give him some love.

848
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Stay on the ft YouTube channel while you're watching a

849
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: little Day Baseball. That would be nice, Thank you very much.

850
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: Kratz hats and then we have one fun story with

851
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: the Orioles after that.

852
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 4: I mean Max Months he came on, so I had

853
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: to wear my spring training hat and our guy Clinton

854
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 4: behind us scenes. Been grinding all day, so this will

855
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 4: make a little bit of a little bit of happy

856
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: day for him.

857
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: Very nice, good job Climp behind the scenes today. And

858
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: then our finisher here the Orioles loss to the Rangers.

859
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: Pete Alnso hit his first homer with the team. It

860
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: was against his former teammate Jacob de Grom, but Craig

861
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: albern As, his son and his travel ball team showed

862
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: up at Camden Yards before the game and they stole

863
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: the show. There's Pete signing autographs for the kids. The

864
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: kids shirts say he was our coach first. Whoever put

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Speaker 1: that little idea together? Aj A plus, that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: Whoever that was, whether it was Craig's wife or someone

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Speaker 3: in Craig's family or whatever, that's that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 4: The team's probably from New England, so they're just happy

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Speaker 4: that they saw some sunny days. Believe me, New England,

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Speaker 4: they ain't seen much sun now, so they're glad they

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Speaker 4: were in Camdon Yards yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Hey, North, I'm in the Northeast this week.

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Speaker 5: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was sneaky. It's nice. Yeah, you guys know what

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Speaker 2: you're doing a.

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Speaker 3: Few months others perfect and I'm just saying no.

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Speaker 2: A few months a year Northeast, they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: A few months a year, I'm not sure yet. Still

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Speaker 2: figuring that out. You got to take days from each

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Speaker 2: month kind of like roll over, and then clump.

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Speaker 5: Them all together and just pick them thegether.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's tough, but everyone, there's a ton of

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Speaker 2: day baseball going on, so check that out, but also

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Speaker 2: listen to Trevor May and then we will see you

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Speaker 2: all tomorrow. The one stocks are playing to that, I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're playing until next week.