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Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Monday, and

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a huge show, a huge week

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Speaker 1: for you on the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's just dive

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Speaker 1: right in. First of all, I will talk briefly, try

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Speaker 1: to talk briefly about the hurricane flooding going on right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll address that a medal of honor Monday. About an

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Speaker 1: hour from now, we have a little Jesse was right segment.

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Speaker 1: Actually I take that back, I just misspoke. We have

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Speaker 1: a couple of those tonight. That's always a good time.

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Speaker 1: This doc strike that is coming tomorrow is the biggest

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Speaker 1: deal nobody's talking about. And I have an expert on

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Speaker 1: all that stuff, supply chains, shipping doc Ross Kennedy is

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Speaker 1: going to join us about a half hour from now.

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Speaker 1: I don't usually say you'd need to hear something, but

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Speaker 1: that's something you should probably stay around for. You should

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Speaker 1: probably hear that about a half hour from now. All that,

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Speaker 1: so much more coming up tonight on the world famous

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. And it is a big night. From

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Speaker 1: John Carey to Bill Gates. We got to go after

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Speaker 1: some commies tonight. I even have some voicemails. Some were great,

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Speaker 1: some were hey, some were just the disaster. All that

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Speaker 1: All Right, first, let's talk about Helene and more specifically,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about why I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: talk that much about Helen tonight. For those who maybe

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Speaker 1: that stuff's fine, But this hurricane came through. Hurricane itself

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Speaker 1: was bad. It was a Cat three. That's a salty

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Speaker 1: hurricane for sure, But as it made its way up

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Speaker 1: That is just honestly, the pictures, the videos, the things

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Speaker 1: that I've spent the last twenty four hours consuming, they're

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Speaker 1: very hard to see when you see people going through hell.

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Speaker 1: As you are listening to the sound of my voice

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Speaker 1: right now, there are so many people missing, there are

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Speaker 1: everything about it is completely awful. And it's another reminder.

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Speaker 1: We hate these reminders because it makes us feel small. Well,

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Speaker 1: I should say it reminds us how small we are

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Speaker 1: that for all the incredible power of mankind to create

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Speaker 1: power of nature is still such that it can wipe

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Speaker 1: it's scary to think about. I live in a hurricane area.

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Speaker 1: We witnessed it with Hurricane Harvey. The flooding, the devastation.

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Speaker 1: It's just you think you're fine and then your house

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Speaker 1: to pray when people are going through what they're going

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Speaker 1: show's over, please, don't. We need to pray. This is

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Speaker 1: a time to pray. Every time it's time to pray,

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Speaker 1: but this is a time to pray for these people.

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Speaker 1: That is one two as far as helping goes. I

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Speaker 1: have some things that I'm looking at. Organizations not mine.

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Speaker 1: This won't be me, organizations looking at and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to try to find one. It may be a big one,

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Speaker 1: to find one. And if you have a heart to

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Speaker 1: to explain something to you. I have worked in the

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Speaker 1: quote nonprofit world. I worked there for a year. I

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Speaker 1: for a year. I know, Chris, it sounds very fancy.

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Speaker 1: I was a very important person. Shut up. I've worked

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Speaker 1: in that world. There are a bunch of great people

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Speaker 1: You know, the preborns, the tunnel to towers. You know

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Speaker 1: how you can tell though you don't have to take

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Speaker 1: my word for those things. There are charity rating sites.

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Speaker 1: These are independent sites. They go through the books of

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Speaker 1: That is not the rule for charities and nonprofits. I remember,

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Speaker 1: Hurricane Harvey had my entire area underwater. I was fined.

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Speaker 1: And if you followed the money, pennies on the dollar

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Speaker 1: our emotions get in the way my emotions. It's happened

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Speaker 1: to me before. I've ever to one of the more

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Speaker 1: my own mother said, Jessie, that's a scam. Someone hacked

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Speaker 1: And of course after she said that, I thought, gosh,

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Speaker 1: But I got emotional. It was a friend, it was

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Speaker 1: what happens to us, that's what's happening to you to

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Speaker 1: have verified the organization or if it's an individual, verify, Verify, Verify.

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Speaker 1: help them get Muffy back. He's somewhere in the flood.

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Speaker 1: You don't know that person. I know Muffy's cute. Be

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Speaker 1: careful give. I'm asking you to give. I have given,

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Speaker 1: I will give more but give where you trust, verify first.

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Speaker 1: They will use your emotions against you to send your

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Speaker 1: Right now, maybe you're sitting here expecting me. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you've heard a ton of this today. Maybe you're sitting

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Speaker 1: or lack thereof. Right now, where is FEMA? Where's the

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Speaker 1: federal government? FEMA's here, They're not doing enough. Let me

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Speaker 1: explain to you why I'm not going to do that.

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Speaker 1: Two different reasons why I'm not going to do that. One,

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Speaker 1: I long ago accepted that the federal government hates me,

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Speaker 1: the federal government hates you. I'm not under any delusions

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Speaker 1: I never expected FEMA, even if it could help, that

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Speaker 1: their website about equity. Did you think this was just

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Speaker 1: Dome who spoke like this. It's on FEMA's website.

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Speaker 3: It is our lowest income communities and our communities of

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Speaker 3: impacted by issues that are not of their own making,

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Speaker 3: and so absolutely, and so we have to address this

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Speaker 1: I need to clarify that's an old clip. That was

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Speaker 1: enough of that mushy stuff. Let's talk about me. No,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about me, not really, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: for going ahead and reinforcing my point. We'll play that

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Speaker 1: You see, testosterone is about a lot more than making babies.

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Speaker 1: I'm forgetful. I turned fifty and I started forgetting things.

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Speaker 1: You ever said stuff to yourself like that supposed to

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Speaker 1: be that way. Your tea levels are dropping because you're

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Speaker 1: drinking estrogen. It's in our water. Now we have to

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Speaker 1: We'll be back the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the

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Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show on a Monday, of course, Medal of

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Speaker 1: Honor Monday coming up about forty five minutes from now.

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Speaker 1: And remember Ross Kennedy, Shipping expert, Supply chains, logistic expert.

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Speaker 1: He's coming on in about ten minutes. You probably need

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Speaker 1: to sit around for this one. There's a huge strike coming,

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Speaker 1: a port strike. I hear a lot of terrifying things

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Speaker 1: Coast Port strike truckers rails scrambled to move billions in

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Speaker 1: cargo before the ILA. That's the name of the union.

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Speaker 1: It's along Shoreman Union Midnight shut down. So midnight tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, Ross Kennedy is joining us. There's a big

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Speaker 4: Well, so, there has not been a wart stoppage related

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Speaker 4: the US, including especially a lot of fruits, a lot

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Speaker 4: of vegetables, a lot of energy products, automobiles, minerals are

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Speaker 4: very heavy in the Gulf and East Coast ports versus

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Speaker 4: the West Coast. You're talking about a two point eight

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Speaker 4: billion dollar increase that would be eaten by the terminals

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Speaker 4: the ports. So you have a port, you have multiple

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Speaker 4: terminals usually within the port, that operate independently but under

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Speaker 4: the port authority, and then you have the ship owners,

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Speaker 4: so that two point eight billion over the next five

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Speaker 4: years would have to be spread fairly equally across taxpayers

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Speaker 4: and fairly equally across the people at the bottom of

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Speaker 4: the totem pole who pay every additional charge, which is

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Speaker 4: the importer or the exporter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask this question. Sorry, Ross, I may

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Speaker 1: end up by the way I should note. Do I

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Speaker 1: have you for an extra ten It's fine if I didn't.

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about this before. I just have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions here. Do I have you for another segment? Okay? Good?

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Speaker 1: Because that leads me to this question, is that don't

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Speaker 1: want don't want it to be my last one? What

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Speaker 1: kind of margins? I'm not one of these guys who

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Speaker 1: goes after people's profits, but you mentioned two point eight

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Speaker 1: billion or two what it's called three billion dollars. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a ton of money when you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with that many different ports and that much industry. I

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Speaker 1: know it's a lot of money. I'm not thumb in

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Speaker 1: my nose at two point eight billion dollars, but surely

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Speaker 1: the profits are there to pay that, right? Are there

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Speaker 1: not big margins?

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Speaker 4: Well? You shipowners had lost you know, in the aggregate

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Speaker 4: you know what we call containership. You know, owners had

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Speaker 4: lost you know, in the last twenty five years prior

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Speaker 4: to COVID, I think every year but twenty three, or

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Speaker 4: every year but two of the twenty five they had

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Speaker 4: lost money. COVID really, COVID really reversed their fortunes because

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Speaker 4: they were able to begin charging excessive surcharges that were

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Speaker 4: within the law but certainly not within the spirit. So

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Speaker 4: you've had the Federal Maritime Commission doing a number of

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Speaker 4: studies and surveys and assessing fines and penalties to the

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Speaker 4: ocean carriers for these extra surcharges that are very much

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Speaker 4: out of the scope and were kind of created on

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Speaker 4: an ad hoc basis to avoid the law and charge

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Speaker 4: more money back to the importer and exporter who ultimately

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Speaker 4: paid a bill for everything involved with an ocean freight transaction.

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Speaker 4: In this particular case, what you would see are container

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Speaker 4: lines implementing very quickly additional search charges for labor risk

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Speaker 4: for you know, port operational slowdowns. So every dollar in

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Speaker 4: known quantified risk in this case two point eight billion

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Speaker 4: over the next five years is they're going to find

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Speaker 4: a way to recoup that using that as a justification

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Speaker 4: three to four to five ways, but it won't be

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Speaker 4: dollars equal. When you look at twenty twenty twenty to

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Speaker 4: twenty two, thirteen point eight billion dollars in excess searcharges

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Speaker 4: and fees were collected by the ports terminals and notion

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Speaker 4: carriers as a result of all of the supply chain

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Speaker 4: challenges and logistics challenges that we had related to COVID.

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Speaker 4: So if we say the longshoremen are responsible for ten

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Speaker 4: percent at most, this two point eight billion dollar increase

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Speaker 4: rolls down to about four hundred and forty million a year,

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Speaker 4: that you could credibly say the longshoremen are responsible for

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Speaker 4: those extra fees happening. The other ninety percent is a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of other factors. So what they're really arguing

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Speaker 4: against is pay US two point eight billion over the

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Speaker 4: next five years and avoid automation or anytime there's a

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Speaker 4: risk or disruption or whatever. We're talking a billion dollar

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Speaker 4: to five billion dollars depending on the math you look

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Speaker 4: at hit to the US economy every day the ports

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Speaker 4: are shut down. So it's a hostage situation on the

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Speaker 4: you know, between two parties who neither of them in

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Speaker 4: a lot of ways, are really all that people are

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Speaker 4: not going to be inclined to see their side of it.

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Speaker 4: It's a it's a lot of extra money. Where we

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Speaker 4: go and strike having that multi billion dollar impact to

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Speaker 4: the US economy, or we continue with the status quo.

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Speaker 4: You give in to our demands and you're still going

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Speaker 4: to end up paying US two point eight billion dollars

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Speaker 4: over the next five years.

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Speaker 1: All right, look we are I'm up against the break.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back with Ross Kennedy Fordists analysis.

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Speaker 1: I have some questions about the impact to you. To me,

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Speaker 1: what if this thing's gonna go on for a bit,

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Speaker 1: and it sounds like there's a chance it might. I

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Speaker 1: want to know what we're what we're in store for

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Speaker 1: before we do that. So I get a lot of

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Speaker 1: emails about self defense. And look, I am not some

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Speaker 1: defense expert. I'm not some freaking navy seal or something

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Speaker 1: like that. I know a bit about a bit. I

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Speaker 1: will tell you personally what I do. I carry lethal

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Speaker 1: because I am allowed to do so. I live in

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Speaker 1: a state where I'm allowed to do so. I carry lethal.

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Speaker 1: I carry my Springfield hell Cat Pro, and I carry

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Speaker 1: non lethal. I love having a non lethal option. If

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Speaker 1: there's some crazy homeless guy leaning on my car and

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Speaker 1: don't don't move, won't move, I need to leave. Not

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Speaker 1: gonna blow his head off, right, I want a non

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Speaker 1: lethal option. BURNA is the non lethal option. B Why RNA.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're in a blue area. They won't allow you

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Speaker 1: to have a gun. Everyone's allowed to have Berna. Everybody

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Speaker 1: legal in all fifty states, No permit needed, no nothing.

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Speaker 1: It's tear gas balls or pepper balls or kinetic rounds.

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Speaker 1: Those are just the hard plastic rounds. Get one. Whether

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Speaker 1: you carry lethal or not. You need a burn A

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Speaker 1: pistol launcher. B y RNA, Berna dot com slash Jesse,

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Speaker 1: We'll be back.

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Speaker 2: The Jesse Kelly Show.

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Speaker 1: It is The Jesse Kelly Show. Final segment of the

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Speaker 1: first hour of The Jesse Kelly Show. We're ten minutes

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Speaker 1: away from Medal of Honor Monday. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: finish up my conversation with Ross Kennedy Fortis Analysis, our

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Speaker 1: shipping logistics supply chain guy. What are we in store

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Speaker 1: for with this long shorm and union strike on the

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Speaker 1: East Coast? All right, Ross, you just broke down all

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Speaker 1: the gripes if you will of each side. I get

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Speaker 1: all that, but me the American consumer. You mentioned things

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Speaker 1: like cars will shoot. I got a sixteen year old

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Speaker 1: who's gonna need one soon if this thing goes on.

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Speaker 1: If they don't work this out, and they sound far apart,

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Speaker 1: what are we the consumer in store for?

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Speaker 4: Well, if it's just a one day shut down, you know,

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Speaker 4: train falls off the tracks. Tomorrow we get into a

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Speaker 4: twenty four hour shutdown, you're still talking about a week

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Speaker 4: to get supply chains back on track. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: a Train's a really useful analogy here for a couple

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Speaker 4: of reasons. Number One, once it comes to a dead stop,

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Speaker 4: it takes an awful long time and power for it

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Speaker 4: to break friction and get moving down the tracks again,

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Speaker 4: both literally and metaphorically. The reason for that is is

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Speaker 4: that as containers stop, as trucks stop, the backlog continues.

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Speaker 4: The ship still continue coming in ocean, carriers are still

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Speaker 4: re routing and moving cargo to West coast ports away

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Speaker 4: from the East coast. None of that just you know,

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Speaker 4: stops on a dime and everything goes back to normal.

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Speaker 4: One of the other things that's not really been discussed here.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's focused on the fact that you know, something like

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Speaker 4: thirty ports, the thirty five ports in the US on

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Speaker 4: the Gulf Coast and the East Coast would be impacted

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Speaker 4: by this. The other challenge, though, is that the East

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Speaker 4: coast ports, particularly Norfolk, Savannah and New York, are what

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Speaker 4: we call intermodal gateways, meaning that they are the primary

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Speaker 4: on dock for rail service with the Norfolk, Southern, and

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Speaker 4: CSX railroads into Chicago, Saint Louis, the Ohio's if Ohio

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Speaker 4: were real, which is a favorite joke for everybody. So

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Speaker 4: you have all of these inland points that are connected

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Speaker 4: directly to and the lifeblood of them is the rail

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Speaker 4: movements that comes to and from these ports at the

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Speaker 4: coasts and so things that normally come inland. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: just impact companies at the coast consumers at the coast.

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Speaker 4: It impacts any company that imports their exports that's based

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland, Ohio, Columbus, Cincinnati, Chicago, Indianapolis, Louisville, Memphis, Saint Louis,

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Speaker 4: even Kansas City, all the w way you know, down

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Speaker 4: the line. So it really impacts all supply chains in

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Speaker 4: the eastern half of the US, not just what's happening

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Speaker 4: at the coasts, and when you're looking at the fact

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Speaker 4: that it's a lot of fruit, a lot of vegetables, juice, meat,

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Speaker 4: a lot most of those things. You know, by sixty

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Speaker 4: to seventy five, almost eighty percent of a lot of

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Speaker 4: fresh food stuffs come in through these ports because we

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Speaker 4: source so much of that, not from Asia, but from

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Speaker 4: South America and Central America, which primarily used the Gulf

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Speaker 4: Coast and East Coast ports is their gateways into the US.

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Speaker 4: So it is one day, not a big deal, but

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Speaker 4: you'll still feel the impact in terms of port operations

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Speaker 4: and slow downs for a week. If a strike were

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Speaker 4: to say drag on a week, you're talking months of

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Speaker 4: recovery because of the backlogs that come into play and

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Speaker 4: coming up, you know, right ahead of Christmas shopping season,

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Speaker 4: given that the US consumer has a habit of running,

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Speaker 4: you know, runs on store inventory on the shelf. Whenever

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Speaker 4: there's a perceived shortage. When you're talking about we're coming

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Speaker 4: into the season, when the autumn makers are planning, you know,

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Speaker 4: I've already begun and will aggressively continue ramping up roll

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Speaker 4: out of the twenty twenty five vehicles, a lot of

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Speaker 4: these sectors that touch our daily lives would be looking

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Speaker 4: at short term to intermediate term increase costs, and then

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Speaker 4: the tail of that, of course, being everybody knowing people

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Speaker 4: understand strikes, they don't understand mechanisms of supply chain being

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Speaker 4: able to take advantage of that to increase prices further

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Speaker 4: as a way to generate more profits, which historically has

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Speaker 4: been the behavior of all of the parties involved on

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Speaker 4: the back end of a striker a major supply chain disruption.

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Speaker 1: Ross, you are the man. We are all smarter now,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, my brother, as always that that

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Speaker 1: was extremely helpful. Thank you, very welcome. Guessing all right,

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Speaker 1: oh man, well, my palms are sweaty. I don't know

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Speaker 1: about you. My palms are sweaty. Now we'll be fine. Look,

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Speaker 1: we'll be fine in the end. But that was we

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Speaker 1: might be in for a rocky road, I guess now

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Speaker 1: we don't. If the strike's a day, things are gonna

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Speaker 1: be screwed up for a week. If the strike's a week,

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Speaker 1: things will be screwed up for months. I didn't want

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Speaker 1: to ask him if the strike's a month long, because

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Speaker 1: who knows. It's Medal of honor Monday We're gonna do

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Speaker 1: medal of honor Monday. Next hour. I'll probably do a

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Speaker 1: voicemailer to next hour, someone is returning to politics, and

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Speaker 1: I always told you they would. We are going to

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Speaker 1: discuss that next hour. All that and so much more

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Speaker 1: is still to come on the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to any of those things. Remember we

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Speaker 1: talked at the beginning of the show about charities you

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