WEBVTT - S3 Episode 1: Always Been Like This

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<v Speaker 1>Drafted is a production of tree Fort Media, Clutch Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio. Hello, how you doing. Let's get it,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get it. Oh my gosh, I work for it

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<v Speaker 1>is man. Welcome to Season three of Drafted. I'm Steven

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson and we're back with the two thousand one NFL Draft. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This season, we're following six elite college football players as

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<v Speaker 1>they make the leap from campus to their new NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams and cities. In these ten episodes, we'll hear firsthand

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<v Speaker 1>personal experiences from behind the scenes at one of history's

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<v Speaker 1>most unique NFL drafts, in person in Cleveland and at

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<v Speaker 1>home and in living room and even in cabins all

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<v Speaker 1>across the country. Airbnb to cabin up in Big Bear

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<v Speaker 1>right off the lake, and he's like, Hey, I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to be there. What daughter I come in? Well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>ten tho people in front of the door. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea. This is a once in a lifetime

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<v Speaker 1>Like literally, this is never ever gonna happen again. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I only have one shot. We'll hear from the players,

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<v Speaker 1>their friends, family, coaches, teammates, and agents at Clutched Sports Group,

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<v Speaker 1>including Clutch Sports founder and CEO Rich Paul. My kids

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, I'll be flying commercial private now. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>where are y'all getting this stuff from? At least take

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<v Speaker 1>in Delton. From the college football season to the scouting

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<v Speaker 1>process to the draft itself, this year was anything but

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<v Speaker 1>business as usual. Obviously made air Wina, you gotta understand

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a weird year. I mean, you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>interviews over zoom. Most people only have like first round

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<v Speaker 1>grades on like sixteen prospects in the first round. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so much uncertainty with prospects. Even with tens

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of fans in Cleveland for the draft, only

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen players attended in person this year, one of whom

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<v Speaker 1>is Davante Smith, wide receiver from the University of Alabama.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a black hat on black going low. I go

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<v Speaker 1>with the blue games to the black bag that one

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<v Speaker 1>not beside this year large set see the media. DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>had one of the indisputably greatest seasons in college football history.

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<v Speaker 1>He won the Heisman Trophy, the National Championship, the m

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<v Speaker 1>v P of the title Game, and was named the

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<v Speaker 1>Associated Press Player of the Year, along with almost every

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<v Speaker 1>other award available to players at his position. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>most decorated wide receiver in thirty years, waits to find

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<v Speaker 1>out his future. He shops for pants and some T

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<v Speaker 1>shirts at the mall in Cleveland. I can try. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a pack of white t might be mediums. Might

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<v Speaker 1>be mediums because I only when my white teeth fresh

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<v Speaker 1>out the pat one time or nef I'm winning, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be under another shirt. Come on, man, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I might go to large. Gaudy stats and a trophy

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<v Speaker 1>case full of awards still don't fully explain how dominant

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<v Speaker 1>Davante was this season. He was named the most valuable

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<v Speaker 1>player of the championship game against Ohio State, setting records

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<v Speaker 1>for catches and touchdowns despite only playing about half of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. He spans Chris Fowler summed it up during

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<v Speaker 1>the championship. Touchdown facement cannot restop he truly special performance

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<v Speaker 1>by the higspand trophy wedner three touchdowns in the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>and despite Davante's all inspiring performance throughout the entire year,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL scouts and draft analysts only want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the one question he's asking himself right now, Can he

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<v Speaker 1>really fit into a medium? They meet him on a

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<v Speaker 1>large the tea a medium, Davante is listed at six

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<v Speaker 1>ft even and one hundred and seventy pounds, and for

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<v Speaker 1>a variety of reasons, those are the only numbers NFL

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<v Speaker 1>teams seem to care about when discussing his draft prospects,

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<v Speaker 1>not the one hundred and seventeen catches last year for

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<v Speaker 1>over eight hundred yards and twenty three touchdowns, or the

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<v Speaker 1>nearly four thousand yards receiving and forty six touchdowns he

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<v Speaker 1>piled up over his college career. Teams openly question how

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<v Speaker 1>good he'll be as a pro because they don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's big enough. In other words, they think you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be a great receiver in the NFL unless you wear

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<v Speaker 1>a large or an extra large. So as Davante gets

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<v Speaker 1>back to his hotel, he constantly has to watch and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to news stories like these on his phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation about him is his weight being a book

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six and whether not automatically discounts him from being drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a difference between size and deal, and DeVante isn't

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by the doubters, even though he personally caught more

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns over the season than the entire Ohio state team,

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<v Speaker 1>which finished second behind Alabama this past year. Being questioned

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<v Speaker 1>about his size is nothing new for a guy nicknamed

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<v Speaker 1>the Slim Reaper. Here's his mom, Christina Smiths Silvh, elaborating

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<v Speaker 1>he was always a little small, stroony, low key, but

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<v Speaker 1>as he went on eighth grade football started to be

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<v Speaker 1>more of a challenge for him. All of the guys

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<v Speaker 1>are like bigger than him, so they I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say they intimidated him, but it was a challenge. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a challenge. He wasn't just smaller than the other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>He was tiny in high school. Here's Vincent Sanders, his

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<v Speaker 1>long time mentor Barbara and close family friend. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>a so my freshman year hunt twenty some pounds, you

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<v Speaker 1>get hit, hit that man painful, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like, I'm small, you know, and so many

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<v Speaker 1>people like, oh man, you're small, show your So we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in his head too, same way, you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. He's a kid, you know. You know

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<v Speaker 1>your job as a kid is to respect adult. So

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to what they're saying. But if a group

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<v Speaker 1>of don't say you're you're gonna start believing his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Christina again, everybody talking about, you know, his way, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>doubting him. He tried not to let that get to

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<v Speaker 1>him mentally, but as a mother, you know, I I

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<v Speaker 1>know that guy to him, but I think that pushed him,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to live up to that standard, just live

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<v Speaker 1>up to you know. I may be small, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have the heart of a lion. He wasn't just the

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<v Speaker 1>smallest guy in the football team either. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>smallest guy and almost every sport he played in, almost

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<v Speaker 1>every setting he played in. He was the smallest guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. And he always wanted to play with

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<v Speaker 1>the older guys, and if they didn't pick him, he

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<v Speaker 1>would get mad and take his basketball of football, and

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<v Speaker 1>then that would cause a little scuffle. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>would get into a few scuffles every now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>and that mouth sometimes would get him. I never backed

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<v Speaker 1>down for nobody. I don't care who you are, how

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<v Speaker 1>old you is. This is Davante. I've always been scrapping,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I stayed in fight when I was young. I

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<v Speaker 1>was in trouble maker. I mean I stayed in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that growing up. And they meet Louisiana,

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<v Speaker 1>a real town of about four thousand. He constantly played

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<v Speaker 1>pickup basketball games at the neighborhood park near his house,

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<v Speaker 1>often with older kids and his older cousins. Here's Vincent

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders again on those neighborhood games. Because he was just

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<v Speaker 1>at his age, so he was like the competition of

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<v Speaker 1>his age wasn't wasn't competition. So he come out through it.

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<v Speaker 1>The big boys. You know what I'm saying. So you

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<v Speaker 1>might have somebody out the thirty five years old that

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<v Speaker 1>played college ball. So know what they do. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>grown his uncle's cousins. They ain't taking an he drive

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<v Speaker 1>away who and they like six three six four. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you are, five s coming through the lane. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you what you're looking for. They're getting that elba

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<v Speaker 1>that time, get up, you ain't you ain't hurt, just

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<v Speaker 1>just rules up to get up. Let's go. So he

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<v Speaker 1>you know him doing that, and they nobody took the

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<v Speaker 1>knees in on him. He tough, built four, toughest, tough

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<v Speaker 1>mentally and physically. So even doing his whole life, people

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<v Speaker 1>felt that like I was not so like they can

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<v Speaker 1>take advantage of me. That's why I stayed fighting because

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<v Speaker 1>I always like show like, nah, I ain't the one body,

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<v Speaker 1>so like you're gonna come over and messing with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Now we gotta fight. It was just like around here

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<v Speaker 1>was just like fight for your respect. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>let him keep doing it, they're gonna do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>once you, once you fight, they're gonna respect it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was one time, well because I had to do that part,

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<v Speaker 1>just like kept messing when me kept messing with me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he told me straight. He was like, either you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fight him or you're gonna fight me. So I

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<v Speaker 1>fought other dude and just left it at that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he did get bullied a little bit. This is DeVante's mom,

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<v Speaker 1>Christina once again. But I think it helped him. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he knew that he was the smallest kid, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was determined to play with the bigger kids. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that kind of helps shape him and mold him

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<v Speaker 1>into the person that he is today. I may be

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<v Speaker 1>the smallest, but hey, I have the heart, I have

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<v Speaker 1>the drive. I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with it. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to play, So you know, I think it did

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<v Speaker 1>help him at you know, some aspects of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back. DeVante and a member of his

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<v Speaker 1>team at Clutch Sports, Carmel Mamalalu. Right back to the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel in Cleveland. They're on their way to a jersey

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<v Speaker 1>signing with another football legend. Like a ten or fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minute window to do the Today Show. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>film it today, it'll run tomorrow. Yeah, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>just told Sean. So what's what's the Today Show? It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? Yeah, that's the Morning show Downtown. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like good morning shots on. Oh I know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about that I think I know. Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>M For an introverted guy who might not know what

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<v Speaker 1>the Today Show is, DeVante's life is about to become

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<v Speaker 1>completely unrecognizable. I'm quiet, I don't like going out. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to myself, like play sports, work out ground it. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like that's what I was around, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I could do. So that's wise just been.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been what I do. Like his stature, his quiet,

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<v Speaker 1>humble confidence. It's easy to overlook in a sport full

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<v Speaker 1>of bigger players and larger than life personalities, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>the media climate built on shocking or controversial soundbites. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>his mom, Christina again, he's not the kid that wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go out to different parties or whatever. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do that in college. He didn't go to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>parties or nothing like that. You know. He was more

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<v Speaker 1>of practice, get something to eat, go back to the apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't think that the recognition is necessary. Like I

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<v Speaker 1>tell him, it's nothing wrong with being recognized. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize you for your performance what you have done.

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<v Speaker 1>But with him is more of He likes to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the background. He really doesn't like all of the attention.

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<v Speaker 1>But I told him, when you do great things, you

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<v Speaker 1>get the attention. You know, it's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante and Garmet arrived back at the hotel and head

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<v Speaker 1>upstairs where they meet former Heisman Trophy winner in University

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan great Desmond Howard. He was the last wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver to win the award before Davante was going on,

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<v Speaker 1>good good, how about you appreciate Uh yeah, Roger, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a law yeah. Davante was supposed to meet

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Goodell in person that morning, but its COVID test

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<v Speaker 1>came up positive. He had to re test twice and

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<v Speaker 1>by the time he got the two accurate negatives he'd

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<v Speaker 1>missed the meeting. This is part of the unique challenge

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<v Speaker 1>for the thirteen players in Cleveland and for the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and hosting his first ever hybrid in person and virtual draft.

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<v Speaker 1>He should probably I'm saying, you got him off, you

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<v Speaker 1>got him most to go for whatever you want to

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<v Speaker 1>put on there. They're talking about what message to right

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<v Speaker 1>in the jerseys. Though, for Davante, this meeting signifies something

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger than swapping memorabilia. Howard played eleven NFL seasons,

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<v Speaker 1>made a Pro Bowl, and was the m v P

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<v Speaker 1>of Super Bowl thirty one. He still holds the record

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<v Speaker 1>for the longest return Super Bowl history. And he did

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<v Speaker 1>all of this at five ft ten and one five pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>If you went just shorter and only around ten pounds

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<v Speaker 1>heavier than DeVante, like Marvin Harrison and Tonio Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>de Sean Jackson, Desmond Howard is proof small receivers can

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<v Speaker 1>still be stars in the NFL. Here's Davante on that comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a blessing to be compared to him, just with

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<v Speaker 1>everything that he's done, and he's done everything right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm trying to get where he is right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm for show. Digg into some of his film,

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<v Speaker 1>take some of the stuff out of his two box

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<v Speaker 1>that he has. Remember we did the zoom we when

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<v Speaker 1>I have my son. Yeah, I got the twin boys.

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<v Speaker 1>I just always trying to collect these for him, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I I mean? Yeah, so this is perfect, my man.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out your hair, graduation. Appreciate best of luck. Man, appreciate,

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate at the very least, to enjoy yourself. Celebration, celebration.

0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:47.800
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people, A lot of people in this position.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's when Howard says, not many people are ever

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<v Speaker 1>in the position. Davante finds himself and now twenty four

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<v Speaker 1>hours from the NFL Draft, exchanging jerseys with other Heisman

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<v Speaker 1>Trophy winners, booking morning show appearances on the cusp of

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<v Speaker 1>his dreams coming true, and tens of millions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>heading his way. How many people get here, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>where they come from. Even fewer arrived at this moment

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<v Speaker 1>from towns as small and remote as they meet Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Davante, and now his small town upbringing shaped his worldview.

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<v Speaker 1>It at me that ain't nothing to do, so I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's molding me. I mean big though, you guys,

0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Walt Moret, you gotta win, Dick, see what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much. You gotta come fast f places, signing

0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Madala stuff like that. But I mean, it ain't nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And they meet outside of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>sports and stuff like that. But I was by my

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<v Speaker 1>pops a lot too, So like when I'm home and

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<v Speaker 1>a meet, it's like sports. When I'm out there by

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<v Speaker 1>my pop, it's like we in the woods. I had

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<v Speaker 1>the best of both worlds, just being like exploring nature

0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.440
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, like we can squirrel and stuff

0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like that, like we shooting squirrels, just playing around in

0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.239
<v Speaker 1>the woods and stuff like that. DeVante's parents were no

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<v Speaker 1>longer together, and he spent most weekends staying with his dad.

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<v Speaker 1>One specific memory in the Louisiana Biou stands out back

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<v Speaker 1>when he was barely a teenager playing in the woods

0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:22.359
<v Speaker 1>with his cousins. I was probably like twelve thirteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>like it was raining by my pops is like a creek,

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<v Speaker 1>so like when it rained, like it was a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>So we was deep in the woods, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time and last time we ever went by

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<v Speaker 1>the creek. Never been back there again. So it's pouring down.

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<v Speaker 1>Rating water is like knee high, and like when you

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<v Speaker 1>first get into it, you don't see how flooded it is.

0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So like you're walking for a good little minute and

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<v Speaker 1>then it's like all of a sudden, just get flooded

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<v Speaker 1>and we just see how hot the water is. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like we just started hearing stuff. My older cousin

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<v Speaker 1>he like, what's this. I'm I don't hear that. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, that's that's that's sounding hog, I know

0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.480
<v Speaker 1>sound a hall Farrell hawks in Louisiana can weigh over

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred pounds and can grow four to five inch

0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:10.560
<v Speaker 1>long tuss along with sharp pointed teeth that looked like fangs.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what Davante and his cousins think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing nearby and the flooded value. So we go to

0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:21.280
<v Speaker 1>looking and then like we see it, so like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>don't move, everybody to sit there. So like were just

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the hall with the sit you. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't see him for help. We're gonna make the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing in my mind was you out run one person.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you you're gonna be good. The last person

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<v Speaker 1>that's up to you what happened with you and the all.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just like on the count of three,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody take you all running. Nobody knews it because like

0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it's flooded, not so like it's no tracks to show

0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:48.439
<v Speaker 1>you what what are you're going back to? So it

0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was just like just right, everybody follows. Somebody just hoped

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<v Speaker 1>it we end up getting somewhere, so we take off running.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't looking back, but I know Shan wouldn't laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>Not when when you pick go running for your life

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<v Speaker 1>from a giant wild hog and a swamp may not

0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>directly translate into developing NFL ready speed, but it sure

0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.720
<v Speaker 1>doesn't hurt. It's another example of the smallest guy always

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:17.040
<v Speaker 1>making sure he never got caught. Because DeVante spent his

0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.399
<v Speaker 1>entire youth fighting or fleeing bullies on the playground, the

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<v Speaker 1>would be tacklers on the gridiron and wild animals in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods, there's a reason his coach, Nick Saban said

0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:32.600
<v Speaker 1>he competes as well pound for pound as anybody that

0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had the chance to coach. Tell many how

0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:38.879
<v Speaker 1>many receivers are tougher than he is, that block better,

0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.879
<v Speaker 1>that play more physical than he does. That's high praise

0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.720
<v Speaker 1>coming from the most successful coach in college football history.

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<v Speaker 1>The question is, will NFL teams be able to look

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<v Speaker 1>past the size of his jersey and focus on what's

0:19:51.960 --> 0:20:10.159
<v Speaker 1>underneath it instead? We'll be right act. Becoming the DeVante Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>who has talked about as a top pick in the

0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.480
<v Speaker 1>NFL Draft, didn't happen by chance, Not when you're the

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.760
<v Speaker 1>smallest kid who everyone doubts. He had to turn that

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 1>one and twenty pound high school freshman into the most

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<v Speaker 1>dominant player in college football. Here's Clutched Sports founder and

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<v Speaker 1>CEO Rich Paul describing what he saw when meeting DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles for the first time. When I met

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante for the first time, I knew it. I asked me,

0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:40.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, what do you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>if I just want to go? You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>in l A. No anything we can help you with,

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<v Speaker 1>get you you want to see something? Now, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we take the meeting, but maybe did somebody

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>eat didn't do a t other shop and didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go look at the cars and direct that, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like not that it is anything wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>any of that. He just didn't have no interest. I

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, he's serious about football. He's serious about football,

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<v Speaker 1>which I love, which is why he was so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's his mom, Christina again describing when her son's determination

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:17.439
<v Speaker 1>grew even if the rest of his frame didn't keep up.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew the talent was there early on, but his

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<v Speaker 1>sophomore year in in high school is when I knew

0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that Davante had what it took. He had the work ethic,

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:35.360
<v Speaker 1>he had the drive and determination. He's always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>play in the NFL. That's always been a dream of his.

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:42.679
<v Speaker 1>But I really saw it his sophomore year in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>We live right next to a park, so he would

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<v Speaker 1>get up and he will go to the park and

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<v Speaker 1>and run. He had the cones, he had the cape

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:56.199
<v Speaker 1>to put on to help him with his speed. It

0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.320
<v Speaker 1>was like he had whatever he needed to try to

0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 1>get himself better. He did it. He did drills in

0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the park before school, practiced and lifted weights after school,

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:11.520
<v Speaker 1>and even developed a routine during the day. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a time on my phone for like every hour, do

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<v Speaker 1>thirty push up. So like I'll be in class and

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<v Speaker 1>like the time I'll go off, like I just do

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<v Speaker 1>something again, just be like teachers would be like, you

0:22:23.359 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>can't be you can't be having your phone or on off.

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But this high got away with it. It It was like

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<v Speaker 1>every class is only four to five minutes at the most,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's only gonna ring once in every class, Like

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't report me for doing push ups. So it

0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was just like it's nothing you can do besides tell me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you get up and stop doing this. By by time

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you do that, I've been at them a thirty hour.

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<v Speaker 1>So every time ring, I just like my fault. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, and I just do the push up and

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<v Speaker 1>be like I ain't gonna worry about this class. When

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<v Speaker 1>it first started, they was like, what are you doing?

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing? Push us fun? And I'll just

0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, I just had to do them real quick.

0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 1>And then like he got to a point like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>if they knew, like that was a consistent thing, so

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:01.760
<v Speaker 1>it was just like just let him do it, so

0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>let him going and get knocked. The way he was

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<v Speaker 1>so consistent with his mid class push ups, teachers and

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:11.040
<v Speaker 1>students all grew accustomed to his alarm going off, him

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>dropping and doing thirty and then going right back to

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the Pythagorean theorem and the Lord of the Flies. And

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>while he honed his body throughout high school, he also

0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.320
<v Speaker 1>had to develop his killer instinct. He even if that

0:23:23.320 --> 0:23:25.760
<v Speaker 1>meant learning to be more selfish. In the final moments

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 1>of his high school teams playoff basketball game, his seconds off,

0:23:33.760 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>We're down one and everybody wants me to take the shot,

0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>but like trapped me. I had a screen, said someone

0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 1>of the screen came like they trapped me, like someone's

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<v Speaker 1>wide open. So like I passed it and he didn't

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.479
<v Speaker 1>shoot it. He passed again like my best friend had

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>shot the ball. He missed, and then he came to

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<v Speaker 1>me and he was like, man, I don't care if

0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it was five people. You know you're supposed to take

0:23:54.320 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>that last shot. And then I was like that stuck

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>with me, and I was just like all right, like

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.320
<v Speaker 1>forget trying to give it to the old like carst time.

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't care I many people on me. I want

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:05.600
<v Speaker 1>to be in that moment like and that stuff with me.

0:24:05.640 --> 0:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Since then they're like five people on the they double me,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>and he still say, like, you know, that's your shot,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>because like that's what everybody expect for me. If we

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 1>had a hold of right now. Everybody see if I'm

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>taking the last shot, everybody gonna say you just because

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>like that's what you do. So it was just like

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>that moment, always steak with mean. I never let nothing

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>else happened like that again, game on line. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you right now, give me the ball. I ain't trying

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 1>to heat with nobody else, gotta say throw me the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The very next year, this lesson came into play with

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<v Speaker 1>a different ball, on a different field and not a

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<v Speaker 1>much much bigger stage. It's the college football season and

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<v Speaker 1>Davante is a freshman receiver at Alabama, playing behind multiple

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<v Speaker 1>future first round draft picks at wide receiver. The team

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<v Speaker 1>makes it to the National Championship game against the Georgia Bulldogs,

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and Georgia takes it to the Crimson Tide in the

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 1>first half. Alabama is down thirteen to zero as they

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>go into the locker room for halftime. Yeah, so freshman,

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 1>if we're in the game and stuff just wasn't going

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>our way. So we get the halftime, everybody in locker

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>room like, man, y'all need to get this ship together,

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and like you can feel the energy of like one

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:16.600
<v Speaker 1>person say the role thing somebody go, somebody will get punched.

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.199
<v Speaker 1>The older guys they didn't play there. It was just

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 1>like if you weren't listening, like y'all, y'all start fighting,

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because that's just how they would, like you're gonna listen

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>or somebody gonna beat you up. It's like everybody's just

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.399
<v Speaker 1>sitting there just listening to them talk, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just we we've been here before, like this, ain't that

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>knew this is what we do. Alabama have played in

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>two previous championship games before this one, so as Davante said,

0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>this is what they do. And this time around, the

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.439
<v Speaker 1>team makes one huge change at halftime. Coach Nick saman

0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.400
<v Speaker 1>decides to sit his starting quarterback and bringing the rookie

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>quarterback by the name of Tua Tonga Vloa. So it

0:25:54.440 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>was just like change, like second half like switch, and

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>like everything just started going out wayybody just started battling back.

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 1>Alabama ties the game and sends it into overtime. In

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 1>college overtime, both teams get the ball at least once,

0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:14.720
<v Speaker 1>so they each have a chance to score. We went

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to overtime like you could tell the like we was

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>ready because you go out there for like the corn toss.

0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh them kill their helmets on and people Georgia didn't

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>have it on. So like when they came back, they

0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, they ain't ready. The ain't even got

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>their helmets on, like they don't want them more. Something

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 1>as small as the Georgia players not putting their helmets

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 1>back on for the coin toss was all Devonte and

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>his teammates needed to see, Like sharks moving in for

0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>the kill. They could smell the blood that killer instinct

0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>was kicking in. Overtime begins and Georgia receives the ball. First,

0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:52.200
<v Speaker 1>they kick a field goal, putting them up three points.

0:26:52.680 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Now Alabama gets the ball. If they don't score, they lose.

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>If they kick a field goal, it goes into double overtime,

0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and if they score a touchdown, they win the national championship.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>After the Alabama quarterback takes their brutal sack on their

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 1>first play, it's suddenly second and twenty six from the

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>forty one yard line. Alabama needs to do something drastic.

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Always been ready for moments like that, Like that's moments

0:27:20.160 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>that like I want to be in that position. So

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>it was just like we go back to the huddle.

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 1>We kind of get the clay and I'm like, give

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<v Speaker 1>me a chance. And I ain't think he was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw it too, but I thought he's gonna look at

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<v Speaker 1>me and just be like, all right, whatever, man, But

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he threw it. Fires the touchdown battle ways

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<v Speaker 1>the true freshman come to Viola to Fonte Smith, Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>right George, your heart. Davante catches the walk off game

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<v Speaker 1>winning touchdown in the National Championship as a true freshman.

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<v Speaker 1>Five other receivers on that Alabama team are playing in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL right now. Three were first round draft picks,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the one hundred and fifty nine pounds freshman

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<v Speaker 1>who catches the game winner completely untouched, straight out of

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<v Speaker 1>a Disney movie. Here's Vincent Sanders on that life changing

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<v Speaker 1>moment when he called the game won the National Championship

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<v Speaker 1>as the first one. When I went up to him,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, you called you? He was like, damn no, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I missed a block on such and such player. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what you caught the past at one the

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<v Speaker 1>game and you said on that play, like, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is wrong? Be just kid. He was mad because

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<v Speaker 1>he messed up on a plate Prior to that, he

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<v Speaker 1>was upset with his self. I mean he was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there with his head now, like come on, dud beast

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<v Speaker 1>like and I think I said something to him and

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<v Speaker 1>like man, stop warning a he was. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a problems. Maybe we could have scored on that point

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<v Speaker 1>and we had to go to old time or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>His mom Christina went together. So yeah, when we did

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<v Speaker 1>get to see him, I was like, oh, baby, you

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<v Speaker 1>you caught the game. We didn't touchdown and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, And he just said that he didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>something on one of the plays and I was like, Devonte,

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<v Speaker 1>do you realize you just caught the Yeah, Mama, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like no big deal to him. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just another catch. So I mean that's him. He

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<v Speaker 1>always wants to try to get it right. I tell

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<v Speaker 1>people this all the time. Every fifteen years you get this,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Jordan fifteen years, Kobe fifteen years, but Bra for

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<v Speaker 1>two years. You started with Lyon swanifteen years, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>you go random Moss in the fifteen years Smith, you

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<v Speaker 1>do them every once in a while. We give that's

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<v Speaker 1>the difference from an NFL player and a Hall of

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<v Speaker 1>Fame because you got people in the NFL to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Pro Bowl. Do great, take lots of money, but

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<v Speaker 1>they don't go at all the fame. DeVante Smith won't

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<v Speaker 1>get go jackets in one more day. All the college

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<v Speaker 1>accolades will mean nothing, and the next chapter of DeVante

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<v Speaker 1>Smith's football story will begin. He isn't worried about the

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<v Speaker 1>teams thinking he's too small or doubting his ability to

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<v Speaker 1>play at the next level. He's not interested in making

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<v Speaker 1>TV appearances. We're driving fancy cars or eating five star dinners.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing he cares about is getting a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to play against the bigger, older kids at the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>park to show everyone it doesn't matter how much you

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<v Speaker 1>weigh or what size jersey you wear. In DeVante's mind,

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<v Speaker 1>the drills at the park before school, the push ups

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<v Speaker 1>during class, the missed block in the game he already won.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the important stuff. Everything outside of football, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a distraction. That's just how I am. The stuff there

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<v Speaker 1>sites other people don't assite me. I'm just like I'm different.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how I am. Coming up this season, I'm drafted,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years of throwing the football, almost twenty, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>coming down to a two thousand one draft. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>I don't go out here and get my ass whooped

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<v Speaker 1>on national TV. And they're like, they ain't gonna call you,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, they called me like teen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes ago. If you love football this much and you

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<v Speaker 1>love money that much, then you got a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>play a lot of football and make a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, you're just pound for COVID, You're just positive

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like what. He's like, yeah, you need

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<v Speaker 1>to go home right now, like right now. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>was trying out to cry. I didn't pay but out

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<v Speaker 1>a cry around me. My. Yeah, we picked homeboy, but

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<v Speaker 1>we still want you to take that. Come on, Calm

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