1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in I am Clay Travis, 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: he is Buck Sexton. We are rolling through the second 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: hour now of the show here on a great Thursday, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and the battle lines are really getting drawn in a 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: big way as it pertains to Ronda Santis against Joe Biden, 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: the decisions made by the governor of Florida versus the 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: decisions being made by doctor Fauci and others in the 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Joe Biden administration. And so as we went to break, 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: I was talking about the fact that I know, Buck 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: your brothers have spent a lot of time in Florida, 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: a lot of We've got a monster audience in the 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: state of Florida. We appreciate all of you. We know 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: a lot of you have traveled down to Florida to 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: get away from the draconian COVID restrictions that may have 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: existed in your states, especially if you're on the East 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: coast or in the central part of the country. I'm 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: headed down to Florida tomorrow, my wife. It's our almost 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: blew the number here, I think our seventeenth wedding anniversary, 20 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: and so congratulations to her on being able to last 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: that long with me, which I think no one really anticipated. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: But we've got a place in Rosemary Beach, Florida. Down there, 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: right on the Florida Gulf Coast. We spend a decent 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: amount of time down there. In fact, when everything got 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: locked down last year, we spent the month of May. 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Our kids were out of school. We just relocated and 27 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: went to Florida for the month of May and lived 28 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: a normal life. Ronda Santis is under siege because he 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: represents the last best hope right now of everyone out 30 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: there who is trying to live a normal life. Kids 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: in school, sports, going on. Normalcy in America is represented 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: right now by Florida. And if Florida falls in line 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: with the New York's and the Californias of the world, 34 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: then there suddenly is no control group to be able 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: to compare COVID responses because right now you look at 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: the data. Buck if you compare let's say, Florida and 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: Texas with New York and California, what you see is 38 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: that the data reflects Florida and Texas have done a 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: better job of managing COVID both from a health and 40 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: economy perspective than New York and California have. But if 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: Florida goes down, and if they start masking, and if 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: they start restricting, which is what the White House wants, 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: and I'll play Jensaki here, then there is no control 44 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: group to be able to point out how much this 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: is different and how little some of the responses matter. 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: And suddenly we spiral into Australia. Play cut eight here. 47 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: Jensaki is not on de Santus, it's on the virus 48 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: which we're trying to kneecap, and he does not seem 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: to want to participate in that effort to kneecap the virus, 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: hence our concern. There you go, buck, Oh, yeah, that's right. 51 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to participate. He doesn't he doesn't want 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: to fight back against the virus. The things these democrats 53 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: say are so stupid and so dishonest. At the same time, 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: on MSNBC they have people theorizing as though as though 55 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: they're they're being brilliant that Desantists doesn't care about children dying. 56 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: All he cares about is maga, right, All he cares 57 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: about is what the base tells him. And you reach 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: this point where you just say there's something and I 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: mean this emotionally and psychologically wrong with people that we 60 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: not only will say that, but we'll believe that. Obviously, 61 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Ron de Santists doesn't want anyone to die from COVID. 62 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: And beyond that, the fact that we even have to 63 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: say this out loud, Rohn de Santis has done a 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: better job than the comparable states run by Democrat governors 65 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: throughout this. But here's the thing, Clay. They know that 66 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: not only is Desantists a challenge for the COVID control 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: that they want right, not only is Florida this outlier 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: as a major state, but beyond that, he's a challenge 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: to the entire Democrat power apparatus for Biden or whomever's 70 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: reelection effort in twenty twenty four. And so they're throwing 71 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,559 Speaker 1: everything they've got at this guy. They used to lie 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: about the data sometimes, remember those those the women I 73 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: forget it, Rebecca Jones, I believe who would just make 74 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: stuff up at other hiding data wasn't true at all. 75 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: And now what they're doing is they're just trying to 76 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: focus in, drilled down on Florida and get essentially local 77 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 1: officials to defy state. Can you imagine if Fox News, 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: let's say, or if some concern if we here on 79 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: the show we're advocating for cities in the state of 80 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: New York to defy the state quarantine guidelines or mask 81 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: mandates or whatever, people would have said, that's that's lawlessness, 82 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: that's nullification. That's exactly what they're doing in Florida right now, 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: because it's never about what's right or what's fair. It's 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: just about what they want and what gives them power. 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: And imagine how much different our COVID response would have 86 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: been if Andrew Gillham, who only lost I think by 87 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: thirty thousand votes in twenty eighteen, had ended up losing 88 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: to De Santis, he would be running Florida right now, 89 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: assuming that he was still in office and he hadn't 90 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: had his ridiculous, you know, sex scandal that he had 91 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: back around the Super Bowl, if I remember correctly, it 92 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: would be a total mess. And what they're trying to 93 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: do now is they are trying to use COVID to 94 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: beat ron De Santis in twenty twenty two because they 95 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: know if De Santis wins reelection in Florida in twenty 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: twenty two, next year, he is going to be one 97 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: of the top contenders for the White House, and I 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody that the Democrats could run against him. 99 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: He'll either be maybe Donald Trump's vice presidential candidate. I 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: think there would be a good chance of that happening, 101 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: or if Trump decides to sit out the election. I 102 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: think ron De Santis would have to be the substantial 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: favorite to be the standard bearer right now. If you 104 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: were buying stock in someone who was going to be 105 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: elected in twenty twenty four not named Donald Trump in 106 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, I don't think there's any doubt you'd 107 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: have to go with Ronda Santis. Yeah, I mean you 108 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: could throw some other names in the mix. I actually 109 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: think Mike Pompeo has more of a path and higher 110 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: aspirations than often gets talked about. But not Nonetheless, what 111 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: we're seeing here in Florida, Clay is the all out 112 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: effort to just convince they just have to get De 113 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: Santists to do what Texas did, because that was the 114 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: problem with Texas. Governor Abbott initially went along with the 115 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: mask mandates and the closures, and you know, it wasn't 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: until what felt like the desantists. Miracle had occurred where 117 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: you had a state that stayed open and gave sort 118 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: of safe harbor for those who believe in freedom and 119 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: living relatively normal lives during the major wave of the pandemic, 120 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the initial waves of the pandemic. Now you had Texas 121 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: come out of it. But here I mean the Austin, 122 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: Texas Mayor Steve Adler talking about master in schools. The 123 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: choices that people are making not to get vaccinated for 124 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: themselves are not choices just for themselves. The choices that 125 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: they're making to leave themselves more vulnerable for ending up 126 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: in a hospital is impacting everyone. That's why it's important 127 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: to especially protect our children. A parent can make a 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: choice for their child, except that the choice that they 129 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: make impacts everybody else in the classroom. And people should 130 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: have a right to pick a choice to be able 131 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: to be in a classroom that keeps their children the 132 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: most safe. And we're going to do everything we can. 133 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: We're going, as we said from the very beginning, we're 134 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: going to follow the doctors and the data, even when 135 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: we have a governor that seems to be following the 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: donors and not the doctor. This is the favorite talking 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: point of totalitarian morons all across the country. We're not 138 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: infringing on your choice. We're just following the data as 139 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: though they're not making a subjective judgment, and often making 140 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: predictive judgments about what that data tells them, and suppressing 141 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: contravening ideas or contradictory theses about what's really happening. What's 142 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: frustrating to me about this? And I want to play 143 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: because this is emblematic of where we are. Let's play. 144 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how many of you guys have heard this, 145 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: but let's play. Cut five Oklahoma Public School Board member 146 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Linda Sexton in Norman, Oklahoma. Relationship. She said, I think 147 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: this is Buck's mom. But hey, take that back there, Travis, 148 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: there's a fighting words son. Back yourself upon Lady Linda Sexton, 149 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: the the black sheep of the Sexton family. She's on 150 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma Public School Board in Norman, Oklahoma. Did you 151 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: I mean this is crazy? Listen to what she said. 152 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: This is not data, this is not science, this is 153 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: not in any way being rational. These are who we 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: are fighting with. Now, listen to Linda Sexton's jess okay 155 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: for kids to commit murder by coming to school without 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: a mass, And when it comes down to it, it's 157 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: possible they will cause a death of another child because 158 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: they come to school without a mass. Murderers. It's possible 159 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna cause a car accident. Every single time you 160 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: get into a car. You might kill somebody by accident. 161 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: So you're a murderer, Clay. I mean, we actually we 162 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: have seen people now get so crazy, so hysterical that 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,239 Speaker 1: the basis of common law, of natural law, of morality, 164 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: no law. These people have, no that they're completely unmoored, 165 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: they have no way of connecting with reality around them. 166 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: You're a murderer if you go in it's it's a 167 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: level of madness. And I just want to keep hammering 168 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: home these data points because I think it's significant. Forty 169 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: two and again, you always have to say this. I 170 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: used to say on my sports talk radio show, Buck 171 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: nobody hates death more than me. I hate death more 172 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: than anybody on the entire planet. Because people will say like, oh, 173 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: you don't care about Grandmas, Oh you don't like I 174 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: wish everybody lived for ever. Okay, I am more in 175 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: favor of immortality than anybody you've ever heard. I don't 176 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: want to very brave stand against death and against the 177 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Grim Reaper. We might we might lose some Grim Reaper listeners. Clay, 178 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: you're a brave man. I hate death more than anybody 179 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: who has ever talked on the radio in the history 180 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: of the world. All Right, but data matters, and we 181 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: can't stop death. The worst death of all is young 182 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: children dying, right, and we have the data that forty thousand, 183 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety six kids under eleven years old 184 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: died in the past year. That's a tragedy for all 185 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: those parents. That is an unbelievable, an incredible difficulty. Right. 186 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: We wish that did not happen. But part of being 187 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: an adult is recognizing how to assess risk. It's a 188 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: huge part of being an adult. Forty thousand, three hundred 189 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: and ninety six people under eleven died since the start 190 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Fewer than two hundred of them are 191 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: from COVID. That means, if you are a kid out there, 192 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: or you kids, I think these are important data points 193 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to share with kids. I have to try to make 194 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 1: them understand risk. There is a ninety nine point five 195 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: percent chance that the kids who have died in America 196 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: in the last year have died from something other than COVID. 197 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: What percentage of the time that we have talked about 198 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: kids have we spent focused on those under two hundred 199 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: deaths from covida flu deaths. It's mostly not about protecting kids. 200 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: It's hysterical adults who are terrified that they'll get infected 201 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: by the kids who are demanding this stuff. It's the 202 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: soy drinking CNN watching latte liberals who are even after 203 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: double vaccinated and double mass they're worried that if they 204 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: have to go into school or if they're near children somewhere, 205 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: because remember, kids can't be vaccinated. So it's actually mostly 206 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: hysterical adults. I think that are the ones that are 207 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: insisting the children be massed up because they can't. Actually, 208 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: no one can look at those numbers. It's impossible to 209 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: them cited and say that you're really worried about kids 210 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: from this. They're they're trying to run these stories about pediatric. 211 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: Pediatric ICU awards are very small in terms of beds 212 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 1: for good reason, obviously, so when they say, oh my god, 213 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent, Well, if you went from six 214 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: cases to twelve cases, yeah, that's bad as we've discussed 215 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: as a trash also run buck to be always near 216 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. It would make no financial sense for 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: a hospital to have an icuward that is only twenty 218 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: five percent full, like they are run to be near 219 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: capacity at all times. Yeah, we have We got to 220 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: throw a story here in the hopper clay that we 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: haven't gone to yet, we haven't mentioned it yet. That 222 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: is that the census data is in, oh usually is in, 223 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: which means that the fight over jerrymandering is gonna be underwent. 224 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: And now remember first rule of jerrymandering is that when 225 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: Democrats do it, it's not jerrymandering, it's a good thing 226 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: representing it. When Republicans do it, it's evil jerrymandering it. Anyway, Well, 227 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: we'll get we'll get into this in a second. How 228 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: how absurd the debate will be over this. 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Go to Tommy 247 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: john dot com slash Clay in Buck for twenty percent 248 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: off Tommy John dot com slash Clay and Buck. Welcome 249 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: back to the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We 250 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: are on Census data watch here to see when that coin. 251 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: I know it's done. It doesn't sound like the most 252 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: exciting thing ever, but it'll turn into that'll be some 253 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: interesting macro level stuff we'll see from this Census Bureau 254 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: data coming out today, and it'll turn into a big 255 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: fight over over jerrymandering and redistricting, which, depending on where 256 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: you are in the political aisle, is either jerrymandering or 257 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: our democracy at work. And the shamelessness that the media 258 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: will have on this is just it'll be well, actually 259 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: you expect that from them, so that's no surprise, But 260 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: you don't, Clay, There's there's something else that I think 261 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: is interesting right now, and that is when it comes 262 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: to the economy. People are starting to figure out that hey, 263 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: hold on a second. When they said it was gonna 264 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: be like temporary inflation or a temporary worker shortage, what 265 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: do they mean by temporary When we talk about oil 266 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: gas prices going up? They said it was just a 267 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: cyclical thing that, you know, no big deal. But I 268 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: think people are starting to figure out that they've got 269 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: bigger problems here. Jen Saki telling everybody, oh, we don't 270 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: want to actually get more oil out there, Well, that 271 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: wasn't an ask we made. The point where we've made 272 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: in these communications is that we do have the supply. 273 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: We're not making a supply question. Here, we're not posing 274 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: a supply question, and domestically, obviously OPEC has its own 275 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: unique role on the global marketplace. We do also think 276 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: that there should not be any price gouging at the 277 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: pump when there is available oil. So that is what 278 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: we are highlighting and marking out there, price gouging at 279 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the pump. I don't think Jensaki understands supply and demand. 280 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: We were energy independent, Buck for generations. We have talked 281 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: about not wanting to rely on OPEC and all of 282 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: the Saudi Arabian oil producers and being able to create 283 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: our own energy independence. And we were there. We were there, Buck. 284 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: We had drilled, baby, drilled to the point where the 285 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: United States, for the first time in most of our lives, 286 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: was energy independent. Have you seen the most recent data 287 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: as well? Is? I mean, first of all, inflation is real, 288 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: it is here, it is growing. It's it's going to 289 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: get worse. Everyone's no. One wants to say it because 290 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: it turns into a confidence game. Right, Oh, no, it's 291 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: not going to be that bad. You hope that that 292 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: that somehow will make the economy continue to function better, 293 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: and right this this all turns into a fear versus 294 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: greed situation. But there are stats out today. I mean, 295 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm I can find the exact numbers, but something like, 296 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, used cars are forty percent in cost oil. 297 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: You know, price of gasper gallon huge increase. Remember over 298 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: fourth the July Clay where they said that you were 299 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: saving like point zero four, you're selling like four pennies 300 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: on your in your fear or your boozy mountain dew 301 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: in your case. I gotta try that, I gotta try 302 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: the boozy mountain. But yes, this is a real this 303 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: is a real drain. And and this is where real 304 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: people right who are driving around in their car looking 305 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: at gas prices and recognizing how much they are surging. 306 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: And it is a it is a direct hit on 307 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the pocketbooks of the American consumer. This is where inflation 308 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: becomes a default tax increase. And this is also why 309 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I think the analogy of Joe Biden as Jimmy Carter 310 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: two point zero has some cogency for a lot of 311 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: people out there, because inflation, the last time it ran 312 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: roughshot over the American economy, who was the president Jimmy Carter? 313 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: And I think we are in danger of going right 314 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: back there all over again twenty years ago. Buck, we 315 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: had a incredible diff occult, unbelievable experience with nine to eleven, 316 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: and we have got the Tunnel to Towers Foundation making 317 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: sure that we never forget what our country went through. 318 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: You can donate eleven dollars a month to Tunnel to 319 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: Towers at t twot dot org and you can help 320 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: them take care of so many different people, including a 321 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: catastrophically injured veteran who said they gave me my life back, 322 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: my freedom back, not just for myself but for my family. 323 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: As the twentieth anniversary of nine to eleven inches closer 324 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: and closer, they are making sure that heroes are taken 325 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: care of two hundred mortgage free homes for GoldStar and 326 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: fallen first responders with young children. They are making a 327 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: tremendous difference and you can help them to never forget 328 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: by donating eleven dollars a month to Tunnel to Towers 329 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: at t twot dot org. That's t twot dot org. 330 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back in. I am Clay Travisy is Buck Sexton, 331 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: and we are rolling through the Thursday edition of the program. Buck. 332 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 1: I just got invited on CNN. I just got in 333 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: I don't even like I feel like we need the 334 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: breaking news set. I thought you were. I thought you 335 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: were banned, like you know you'd be, you'd be arrested 336 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: by Jeff Zucker's minions upon arrival in the building. Apparently 337 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: you're that the The Lifetime band no longer applies to 338 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: Clay Travis for the the the B word situation. I 339 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: don't yes for saying that out well, the B word, 340 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: I said, I believe that the only two things completely 341 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: about four or five years ago, the first Amendment in 342 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: Booze and oh my gosh, she said it again, get 343 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: the bleep button, and CNN banned me. And while we 344 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: were on the air right now, I got an email 345 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: from one of Chris Cuomo's producers. I'll read it to you. 346 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm a producer on Chris Cuomos show at CNN, and 347 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: I hope this email finds you well. I'm reaching out 348 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: regarding the use of masks in your school district to 349 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: see if you might be interested in being a guest 350 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: on our show tomorrow night to discuss your point of view. 351 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: We're on from nine to ten Eastern. Kindly let me 352 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: know if this might work for you and we can 353 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: go from there. Now, that's a nice email, right, that's 354 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: totally professional. I wish I wish you could go. We 355 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: know you can't go because you can't do Yeah, it 356 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: would be great. Yeah, Fox, that would be a really 357 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: fun event. That would probably kill if they had cross 358 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: pollination Fox News and CNN sort of like, uh, you 359 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you went on rival shows for like a week right 360 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: where you would be amazing. That's actually what what political 361 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: commentary media ten years ago did have some of. Yes, 362 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: that's right. You know, people forget you know, Bill O'Reilly 363 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: used to work at he used I was a right 364 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: wing political commentator at CNN. And now that's when it 365 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: and the Trump era that broke them and they couldn't 366 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: handle it anymore. But before that, Yeah, you go on 367 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: TV and I would say I would say stuff all 368 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: the time. I mean it would we get into huge fights. 369 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: I did a lot of stuff about I Mean the 370 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: classic thing at CNN was I would go on air 371 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: after some massive terrorist act because I had just you know, 372 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: I'd worked at the CIA's kind of terrorism center and 373 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: actually knew this stuff. On like a lot of the 374 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: clowns they would put on to talk about it, and 375 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: and everybody at CNN, all of their people would be like, 376 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: you know, this is what happens when X or Y 377 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: country like doesn't do a good enough job of making 378 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: it it's migrants feel comfortable or something. They would have 379 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: some horrible take and I'd be like, I don't know, 380 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: I think we should defeat the bad guys and actually 381 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: fight them. And they'd be like, how dare you? And 382 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 1: they'd all flip out and everything else. CNN is crazy. 383 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: But back in the day, you used to have people 384 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: who converse opinions. Bill O'Reilly in the Fox newsdays used 385 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: to have leftists on and he would throw down with 386 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: them all the time, and that was it was good TV. 387 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: No one does this anymore. It's I mean, and I 388 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 1: feel like there's there's an audience component to it, and 389 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: there's obviously a host component to it. Why haven't we 390 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: seen here's a perfect example. Why haven't we seen a 391 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 1: debate between Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow for example? Right, 392 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: I think Tucker would do it, by the way, but 393 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: like what MSNBC would never let that happen. Why, yeah, 394 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a fantastic point. And look, I would 395 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: go on Chris Cuomo's show and talk about why masks 396 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: make no sense. I'm not allowed to do that because 397 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm a Fox employee in the same way that CNN 398 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: is not allowed to have any Fox employees. And I'd 399 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: bet that I would have if I had said I 400 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: was going to do this Buck. I bet that almost 401 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: immediately I would have gotten shut down by you know, 402 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: they have to send in their list of guests that 403 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: are going to be on the shows, and one of 404 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the executives would have like taken a pin and been like, yeah, 405 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: this isn't happening. But I do think, Well, the reason 406 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: why I think that would be important is so many 407 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: people live in media silos where they don't challenge whatever 408 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: they believe that there are huge Well, we were talking 409 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: about those numbers of kids that have died with COVID. 410 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: The two under two hundred kids have died with COVID 411 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: UH compared to forty some odd thousand who have died 412 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: under the age of eleven. That's data that everyone should have. 413 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: I bet that almost no one at CNN or MSNBC 414 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: has any idea those numbers are real. Like, if you 415 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: ask them how many kids eleven and under have died 416 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: of COVID, they would have no clue. And so you 417 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: have all these media silos where the truth doesn't get through. 418 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: And that's why I would go on a network like 419 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: CNN to say the same thing that I say to 420 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: you guys on the radio show and on the television problem. 421 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: I would love. I would love to go on cable 422 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: news and fight with leftists. I would do it all day, 423 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: every day. They will they When I first started out, 424 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: they would put me on MSNBC and I would debate people, 425 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: and then at CNN, and now they won't. They won't 426 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: give me anybody to actually would whatever and would win. 427 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: That's why and and and so you sit there and 428 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: you say, well, how can people actually understand the strength 429 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: or weakness of an argument? But you know which is 430 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: we're mentioning Cuomo and data. I want to try to 431 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: do this thing right. I like throw it all into 432 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: one stew for a second. Yes, there's the other Cuomo, 433 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: not Bro Cuomo, but the former Gov. Cuomo and the 434 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: nursing home scandal, which we think we know everything we 435 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: need to know, but Clay, I don't think we do. 436 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: And neither does Nicole Malay attackus, who's a congresswoman here 437 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: in Staaten Island. Here's what she said about it. I 438 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: think it's incredibly important that we don't just accept resignation 439 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: in lieu of accountability. And so I've been pushing the 440 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Assembly Judiciary Committee to pursue and continue its investigation because 441 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 1: they were looking at all facets of this. They were 442 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: looking at the sexual harassment, they were looking at his 443 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: directive to put COVID positive patients into the nursing homes 444 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: without most vulnerable, even when they were alternatives set up 445 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: like the US Navy comfortship that President Trump sent to 446 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: New York City, and also, by the way, the five 447 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: million dollar book deal, and he used state time employees 448 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: and tax dollars to write. So I think that needs 449 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: Assembly Judiciary Committee must move forward with this. It's not over, Clay, 450 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: it's not over. Just because the guy left doesn't mean 451 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: there aren't still answers. But here's the thing. In the 452 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: same way that they're going after desantists with everything they've 453 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: got to try to destroy him, even if they have 454 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: to inflate numbers, misrepresent things. The apparatus of Democrat control 455 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: is reliant upon people not really understanding how disastrous COVID 456 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: response in New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts in particular 457 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: have been they don't want to dig into this. No, 458 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: And again it goes to data, right, we can all have. 459 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: My mom liked to say when I was a kid, 460 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: opinions are like butts. Everybody's got one. I'm pretty sure 461 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 1: someone else said that before your mom. But yeah, but yeah, 462 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: she probably. I don't think she came up. You did 463 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: not come up with that first. But it's a good mom, 464 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: good mom line, right, Get your attention when you're a 465 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: young kid, makes you aware. The inability to distinguish between 466 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: fact and opinion in American society today is at an 467 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: endemic level. It is everywhere that people can't distinguish between 468 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: the two. And it's important because you can't have good 469 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: opinions unless you have reliable facts to site. And so 470 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: knowing what the data shows us can help to drive 471 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: our response. And that's why I've been so favorably impressed 472 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: by Ron de Santis, because he's smart enough to trust 473 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: his ability to understand data and what you find buck 474 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: and you know this to be true in media and 475 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: in politics, there's a lot of sheep. There's a lot 476 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: of people looking around to go and follow someone else. 477 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Even people in high positions of power, and a lot 478 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: of governors decided to shrink from this, this challenge of COVID. 479 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: Others like the Santis looked at the data and said, 480 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: let us guide it, let that guide us. And it's 481 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: still staggering to me how few people are actually looking 482 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: at the data, and we need to when we come back. 483 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: We said we were going to talk about this earlier. 484 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 1: We need to talk about the data on defund the 485 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: police and what it has meant in Chicago as rapidly 486 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: everybody is running from this, including Mayor Lori Lightfoot, who 487 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: just had the entire police department around her turned their 488 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: backs as she was trying to address them. It's a 489 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: big deal and we need to make sure our audience 490 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: is aware of the data that's going on there. In 491 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: the meantime, speaking of my deals, yeah, yeah, in the meantime, 492 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: speaking of data. Mike Lendel is the inventor of my 493 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: Pillow and his team. They have fit us for our 494 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: own pillows and introduced us to their ever growing list 495 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: of incredible products. They got, we got everything. You got 496 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: it in your house, buck, you got it in your 497 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: six hundred square foot apartment. Well to settle down, kid, 498 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: play all right, we're hoping to get the six Scotti 499 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: next year. 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Go to my pillow dot com click on 521 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: Radio Listener Specials to get the Geeza Dreams sheets as 522 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: low as forty nine ninety nine with code Clay and Buck. 523 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: Or call eight hundred seven nine two three two six nine. 524 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: That's eight hundred seven nine two three two six nine. 525 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 526 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Buck here, and we're about talk to you about Chicago's 527 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Mayor Lorie Lightfoot and how she is not only she 528 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: not in favor of defunding the police anymore, she's actually 529 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: saying that, in fact, she will be putting more money 530 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: behind law enforcement in the next budget. I don't think 531 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: anybody's even a little surprised by this. Who lives in reality? Oh? 532 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: By the way, also Trump claimed to know Clay Do 533 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: you see this ump on buck Sexton dot com. Clump 534 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: Trump claims to know the name of the police officer 535 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: who shot Ashley Babbitt. I saw you, I saw you 536 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: tweet that out. I was intrigued by it. I mean, 537 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: certainly we talked about the wrongful death lawsuit that's been 538 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: filed in her case, and that the fact that whoever 539 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: the shooter was would eventually be named as a part 540 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: of that lawsuit. To figure out exactly what we're gonna 541 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna know, pretty, we're gonna pretty, soume. It was 542 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: interesting from Trump that's up at bucksex and dot com. 543 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: But here's Lorie Lightfoot right now, the mayor of Chicago saying, 544 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, no, there's gonna be more money for 545 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: cops in the next budget. Please, department budget will increase, 546 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: no question. We have to we have to make sure 547 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: that we are continuing to provide resources to recruit the 548 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: next generation of police officers, and in particular make sure 549 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: that we're doing that recruitment in a way that reflects 550 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: the diversity of our city. I mean, Clay, yeah, of course, 551 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: of course this is what should be done. The fact 552 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: that democrats we talk about political leadership, I mean, if 553 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: you're not willing to stand again and the currents of 554 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: the mob demanding that there be not only remember defund 555 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: the police. Isn't just about the actual monitoring the money 556 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: behind law enforcement. It's about whether prosecutors are going to 557 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: go after cops for doing their jobs in good faith. 558 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: It's about whether prosecutors are gonna go after the bad 559 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: guys for attacking cops because you know that, oh, they 560 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 1: don't look like they're too harsh on them. It's about 561 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: the DOJ doing consent decrees, investigating police departments for alleged racism. 562 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: That's all part of this def So it's just handcuffing 563 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: the cops so they can't handcuff the bad guys. It's 564 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: also about the culture that you create in your communities 565 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: of disrespect that exists for police, and that, to me 566 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: is the very essence of the difficulty that our police 567 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 1: officers go through on a day to day basis, because 568 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: if you go back and you look at every single 569 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: interaction that turns violent between police and the people that 570 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: they are trying to protect, almost every single one of them, 571 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: if the person that was being investigated by police had 572 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: complied with police instructions, would have never happened. Almost every 573 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: single one of them. Just comply with police instructions. I 574 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: had this conversation with my kids on a regular basis. 575 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: Just did it again. Recently in the car got a 576 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: long drive. We were going to East Tennessee to visit 577 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: with the in laws, and I was talking with my 578 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 1: oldest who's thirteen. He's an eighth graders. By the way, 579 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: the in law visit went pretty well. My you know, 580 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: what's what's wild biggest upset in the seventeen years nearly 581 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: that I've been married to my wife is I have 582 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: gone from the least favored person of my mother in 583 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: law to maybe her favorite person in the whole family. 584 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Like I kid my wife all the time that her 585 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: mom likes me more than she likes her. Your humility 586 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: is the stuff of legends. Oh, I mean it is. 587 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: There's no one who is more humble than me. But 588 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: it is the most amazing comeback story of all time, 589 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: at least in our relationship, that I have gone from 590 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: detested by my mother in law to now more beloved 591 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: than her own daughter. But it was those a great 592 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: visit because I have one of the best mothers in 593 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: law in the world because she has great taste and 594 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: her sons in law. But I was in the car 595 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: with my kids, Buck and in particular my thirteen year 596 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: old who's about to be an eighth grader, and it's 597 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: starting to get out on his own a little bit more, right, 598 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: Like you know, as you get eighth grade, ninth grade, 599 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: tenth grade, you're starting to have a little bit more. 600 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: And we were talking about he was asking me about 601 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: to defund the police in the car because he's learning 602 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: about he's the debater. He's learning these different topics, and 603 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: that was one of the topics they were debating. And 604 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: I said, hey, before we talk about the idea of 605 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: defunding the police, there's a big lesson here. When a 606 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: police officer tells you to do something, do it. Do it. 607 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: And I think that's something that parents out there all 608 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: should be teaching their kids, because I said, look, your 609 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: dad is a lawyer. If a police officer behaves inappropriately 610 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: and you get investigated in a way that you shouldn't, 611 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: at point, we can file a lawsuit, we can we 612 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: can have a Fourth Amendment case about whether or not 613 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: the evidence is admissible or whatever. One don't get in trouble, right, 614 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: but to do what a police officer says. And I 615 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: just I don't know how many parents actually have this 616 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: conversation with their kids, but just comply. And there's virtually 617 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: a zero percent chance of your family ever having an issue. 618 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: And it's amazing that we're teaching kids now to comply 619 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: with a cloth over their face in school because that's 620 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: going to save the people next to them, prevent them 621 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: from maybe even committing murder. If you listen to that 622 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: woman from the council in oklaham council in Oklahoma, and 623 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: that they have to have plexi glass around them too. 624 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's of all the things, that's maybe the 625 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: absolute dumbest. It's all the foot markings and elevators and 626 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: you know, this is where you put your feet for 627 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: social distance. Adult face like I saw Ali our producer said, 628 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: people have to face opposite directions in some like elevators. 629 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: That's actually face towards me. Wall I mean, actually that 630 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: was that. That was really dumbe. You get into the list, 631 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: you start to remember how stupid so much of this is. 632 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Remember when they started putting circles in the grass in 633 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: public parks to show you how to social distance in 634 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: a park. Yeah, I think that's not everywhere in New York. 635 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: That was a big deal. That was a big deal. Yeah, 636 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: I know. Look, it's it's gotten completely out of control 637 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: and crazy but it is. It is true that they 638 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: teach kids this stuff in school. But if you were 639 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: to say, hey, we should do a module on I mean, 640 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: there are a few modules I think should be taught 641 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: to kids at a pretty young age. Basic personal finance 642 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: would be one, dealing with law enforcement would be another. 643 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: Just comply, just do what a police officer says. I 644 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: don't know how many this audience PlayStation that this is 645 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: a very compliant, you know, police friendly and uh and 646 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: law abiding audience. So yeah, I'm not saying that you 647 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: should just completely assume that everything that you're being told 648 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: is one hundred percent constitutional. I'm a warrior, but I 649 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: am saying all of those issues can be litigated afterwards. 650 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: If you escalate a situation where it turns violent, it's 651 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: an unbelievable error of judgment of the initial person who's 652 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: being asked questions. It's just I just I'm blown away 653 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: that we don't talk more about it. Lory Lightfoot is 654 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: going to have more funding for cops. You learn the lesson. 655 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: It seems after the terrible year Chicago had with violence 656 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: and the increase in shootings, we're gonna be revisiting here 657 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: with what is going to happen in more states. As 658 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: these mask mandates get to get tighter and more serious, 659 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: they're gonna be more pushback from New York City restaurants 660 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: from the vaccine mandate. I gotta tell you, I got 661 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: a problem with your folks. If you live in New York, 662 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: if you live in a place that requires the vacs, 663 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Having to some of this 664 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: coming up with a man Clay Travis. In just a minute, 665 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: you're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton fund the 666 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: EIB Network.