1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy and our topic 4 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: today is fort Landia, which is Henry Ford's failed attempt 5 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: at this utopian company town in the middle of the Amazon. 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: And the idea sounds good enough. They're gonna be neet 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: suburban homes and swimming pools and doctors and wholesome Detroit 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: style food. I don't know about that. Well, let's just 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: roll with me here for a minute. Time clocks that 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: sort of thing. There will not be malaria, knife fights, 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: wasted money, or caterpillars, clearly. But guess what, it does 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: not work out at all. And this was a suggestion 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: that Candice had given us a few months back after 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: press coverage for Greg Grandon's book fort Landia, The Rise 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: and Fall of Henry Ford's Forgotten Uncle City came out 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of good information we were able 17 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: to pull from reviews and such, but we still haven't 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: gotten our hands on a copy to read the entire thing. 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: Actually put my name on the waiting list at the library, 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: so fingers crossed. But the book did really well. So 21 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that the next step for this for Landia 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Reliving will be in musical. And if someone listens to 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: this podcast and then goes and write some musical, I 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: want to get some tickets to that, please. And Sarah 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: has a pitch for an opening chorus, so if you're 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: good and listen to the whole podcast, she just might 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: sing it at the end. We'll see how it goes. 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: But first we're going to give you a little bit 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: of background on the man behind Fordlandia, Henry Ford, and 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: by the nineteen twenties, Henry Ford had been in the 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: motor car business for decades. He's established his moving assembly line, 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: He's rolled out the Model T and even the Model 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: a UM. He's revolutionized the industrial working world with his 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: labor theories, the five dollar work day at the forty 35 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: hour work week, profit sharing, and he's also dabbled in 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: the idea of model communities, which it's probably a natural 37 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: extension for someone who's so interested in model factories, definitely, 38 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: According to an article by Wayne Curtis, so far this 39 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: dabbling and model communities has gone pretty well. He's set 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: up a small logging village in northern Michigan, and that's 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: worked out fine. He's stopped them with everything a working 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: man could want, you know, their w rec centers, schools 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: for the kids, churches. But by the late nineteen twenties, 44 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: for It is still feeling a little discouraged. Despite all 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: these accomplishments. World War One has sort of shaken him 46 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: up a little bit and people aren't so crazy about 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 1: all his anti Semitic views. And you imagine, and he's 48 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: an older guy now too, He's in his sixties, and 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: he's starting to look back to his own rustic, sort 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: of rural past and feel a little nostalgia for it. 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: So when he has a business opportunity to ablish his 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: own rubber production company in Brazil, he jumps at the chance. 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: He has this challenge now of creating a model community 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: around this and think of how impressive that would be, 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: taming the Amazon into this series of paved suburban streets. 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm speaking as Henry Ford here, not as myself, and 57 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: creating a society that's connected to global industry, but still 58 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: small and quaint enough to grow its own vegetables, raise 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: its own animals too, to be its own little place. Homi. Yes, 60 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: a US diplomat actually calls it like it is, and 61 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: he says Mr Ford considers the project a work of civilization. 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So it's not just a business prospect. It's really this 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: whole utopian idea. But we have to wonder first why rubber, 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: why the Amazon, And to understand that, we need to 65 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: go back a little bit into the nineteenth century and 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: talk about some rubber barons. So rubber trees are native 67 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: to the Amazon, and when rubber became global commodity in 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, some people became very, very rich. But 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: then Englishman Henry Wickham smuggled out sacks of seeds, and 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: eventually people discovered that rubber actually grew a lot better 71 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: in Southeast Asia, where none of its natural predators lived. 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: And because there aren't natural predators, you can establish huge 73 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: plantations full of rubber trees that produce a consistent product, 74 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: unlike South American rubber, which was still collected from wild trees. 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: So the rubber barons of South America are just out 76 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: of luck. Yeah. Also, according to Robert Santos, is the 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: economic history of the Amazon. British and American companies were 78 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: already sort of looking to get rubber production out of Brazil, 79 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: partly because anti slavery campaigners were not a fan of 80 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: South American labor conditions. But decades later, Ford is concerned 81 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: about this Asian corner that's developed on the rubber market, 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: and he has to have rubber for his car tires. 83 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: He can't really afford to mess around have this one 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: major source of rubber somehow be cut off to him. 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: And he's also, yeah, he doesn't want to ship it 86 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: from halfway around the world. Yeah, if, if, if it 87 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: can be grown in South America, he would rather import 88 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,239 Speaker 1: it from South America than Asia. And so he gets 89 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: the idea that if he established his own rubber plantation 90 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: in South America, he wouldn't have to worry about any 91 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: of the outside factors. He would own it, he could 92 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: control the costs, and he could ensure that the industry 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't be monopolized. And that brings me to your my 94 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: favorite line and the stairs outline. But he'll do it 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: his way, the forward way, which makes us both saying board. 96 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: And he's not the first guy to have thought of 97 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: American controlled rubber production. Back in nine three, the US 98 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: government had started looking into the rubber resources of South 99 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: and Central America. A University of Michigan botanist Carl LaRue 100 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: flags a spot in Brazil near way the Tapajos River 101 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: feeds into the Amazon. By nine, Ford has chosen this 102 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: spot as his own and has arranged a deal with 103 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: the Brazilian government two point five million acres of land, 104 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: plus police protection and duty free imports of supplies in 105 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: exchange for nine percent of the plantations profits after twelve 106 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: years and in n the supplies from Dearborn start heading south. 107 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: So the plan is in action. And four months later 108 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: we have a steamer and a barge arrived with this 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: pile driver, steam, shovel, tractors, locomotive, prefab buildings, parts for 110 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: a saw mill, basically everything that you would need to 111 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: set up a suburban company to creative machine, except that 112 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: it's in the Amazon. And it's basically a company on 113 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: a boat company a industrial do Brazil, which is going 114 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: to be Ford Motor Companies Rubber Harvesting Division. And that's 115 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: how a spot named Boa Vista becomes Fordlandia. The intention 116 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: or the plan is to employ people, house a hundred 117 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: thousand and exports six million tons of rubber a year. 118 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: So let's see how it goes. So it doesn't take 119 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: that long to actually set up the town. The town 120 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: is going to be run by managers imported from Michigan, 121 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: and Native workers will be the ones who are collecting 122 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: the rubber and doing other tasks that are related to 123 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: to running the whole the whole city, the whole model city, 124 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: and the native workers are pretty interested by this job 125 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: because Ford pays wages that are double to what they're 126 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: used to receiving. Plus you get housing and medical care 127 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: and food, so it sounds nice enough. And you know, 128 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: the houses look very cute, situated on neat little streets 129 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: with lawns that got power lines run by a diesel generator. 130 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: The workers have access to well water from spicketts, while 131 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the white collar and US workers have running water inside 132 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: several schools. They're swimming pools these Michigan made fire hydrants. 133 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: And the Villa Brasilia part of town has Taylor's shops, restaurants, shoemakers, 134 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: a butcher, a baker, not sure about the candlestickmaker, but 135 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: they're all subsidized, and working mothers have a nursery or 136 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: a baby clinic. And again as far as health goes, 137 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: if you die, you get a paid funeral with a 138 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: US made coffin. I'm kind of imagining that on their 139 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: promotional brochures like and if you die baby clinics often. Um, 140 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: but there are issues, and the main issue is just 141 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: ignoring the customs of the people, ignoring the climate, ignoring 142 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: how work is done in the Amazon, ignorance in general. Yeah, 143 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: it reminded me of when we talked about the Jamestown 144 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: settlers who are trying to live in North America like 145 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: it's old England and making fatal mistakes. So we have 146 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: fatal mistakes made here too, and we're going to start 147 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: with housing. So the traditional form of housing in this 148 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: area is uh sued well suited to the heat and 149 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: the humidity of the Amazon. You have cool dirt floors 150 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: and thatch roofs. But the new style in Fordlandia is 151 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: cute little Swiss cottages cape cod style model homes, all 152 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: with asbestos insulated metal roofs. So you can see where 153 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna go. With a an insulated metal roof 154 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: under the Amazon sun. One employee calls them galvanized iron 155 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: bake ovens, and a Harper's reporter said that Mr. Ford 156 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and Brazil are somewhat in disagreement in matters of doors, screening, 157 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: and heights of ceiling, so the houses are not too 158 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: Most of the people's suiting. The indoor bathrooms gross out 159 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: the workers. They don't like having that all in the house. 160 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: So this is an immediate problem for making for landia work. 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: And the rubber harvesting doesn't go well either. Again, the 162 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: traditional way workers lived um kind of spaced out and 163 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: they harvest their latex and get paid by the pounds, 164 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: so for what they actually accomplished. The Ford Way workers 165 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: lived in suburbia. They go to work every day and 166 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: this requires them to keep track of their hours, so 167 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: how long they've been there as opposed to what they 168 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 1: actually produce. And there's this Flintstone's style whistle that's mounted 169 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: on top of the water tower that can be heard 170 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: at seven miles away, and it signals meals the start 171 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: and the end of every work day. And it gets 172 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: even worse than that because these old time management systems 173 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: don't mesh. Well. Yeah, the old way is to use 174 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: the sun and the seasons as your clock and calendar. 175 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: So when you're harvesting rubber, obviously you work at the 176 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: coolest parts of the day, so you work at dawn, 177 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: you work at dusk. You don't work from six to three, 178 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: which is going to be the Ford schedule. And the 179 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: new ways also, uh we have the whistle we just mentioned, 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: but also punch clocks like like it's great like and barrel. Yes, 181 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: I know that from experience. So you'd have to swing 182 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: by the main building on your way to the fields, 183 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: even if it meant a detour, just to punch in 184 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: this clock. And to make things even more ridiculous, we're 185 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: running on Detroit time because this is Ford and we 186 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: have to the boss is is different too, so our 187 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: plantation managers of old may have paid terrible wages and 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: worked you entirely too hard, but it was the sort 189 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: of paternal system where your boss might also stand as 190 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: its godfather to your children. And the new way is 191 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: very hands off. Ford never visits for Landia, let alone 192 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: the entire country of Brazil, which must have been demoralizing 193 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: to people who weren't used to that kind of management. 194 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: Well and even people even the Michigan managers. That would 195 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: be I think demoralizing if you had moved your whole 196 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: family all the way down to for Landia and you 197 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: your never set split in the country definitely isolating. So 198 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: additional thing. It sounds kind of minor, but just think 199 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: about if if this were your life and you were 200 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: in the Amazon all the time. Entertainment the old way 201 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: would be native dances, native songs, that kind of thing. 202 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: The new way, this is my favorite part. We have singalongs, 203 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: poetry reading, mandatory square dancing, which sounds like nightmare. And 204 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: just just as a note, I mean, this is the 205 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties, so square dancing isn't really 206 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: the North American norm. I know, it sounds like a 207 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: long time ago. But Ford likes this old fashioned style 208 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: of dancing. He likes polkas that sort of thing, not 209 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: in doing the Charleston. Yeah, and he's not into the 210 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: sexier dances that are sweeping the nation. And again Charles 211 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: Morrow Wilson writes and Harper's the Natives did not choose 212 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: to square dance on the village Green, or to sing 213 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: the quaint folks of Merry, England, or to treasure long fellow. Yeah. 214 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: You can imagine if you've just worked at six to 215 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: three shift, maybe the last thing you would want to 216 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: do is listen to some long fellow on the village green, 217 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: and I think you would have to force the people 218 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: to square dance because they don't know why you would 219 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: want to otherwise. Another entertainment issue. Remember that these are 220 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: model communities, so there will be no drinking, and no 221 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: one really pays attention to that one. The native workers 222 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: immediately buy their stuff from river boats that come up 223 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: on pay day, and according to Grandon, the white linen 224 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: suit guys who are trusted to go gather seeds from 225 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: the jungle would actually binge on alcohol and get so 226 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: wasted that they would start baptizing farm animals with perfume. 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Or maybe they just had too much fun square dancing. 228 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. But the most problematic is with food. 229 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: The old way, of course, was eating traditional foods with 230 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: traditional service, and and Forward's vision everyone eats in a 231 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: mess hall that's incredibly hot inside and only serves Detroit 232 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: food wheat bread, oatmeal, and canned Michigan peaches, which is 233 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: as Georgians come on and Michigan peaches um. The visiting 234 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: writer Charles Morrow Wilson again writes a workman's mess hall 235 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: was set up, but native workers did not like the 236 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: wholesome Detroit style cooking. And complained bitterly of indigestion. North 237 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: American Fair in the jungle no more pleases the customers 238 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: than a quick change to Amazon Fair would please you 239 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: or me. So the major problem, though, with the whole 240 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: food scene is when they cut weight or service to 241 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: save money and make the whole dining hall cafeteria style 242 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: and a buffet. Yeah, and so the workers, for one thing, 243 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: aren't used to cafeteria style food. Um, they're not used 244 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: to waiting in line. Again, you're working in the sun 245 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: all day and then you have to stand in line 246 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: for your lunch. And the result of this change is 247 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: a riot. We have one worker saying I'm a worker, 248 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: not a waiter, and workers ransacked the dining hall. They 249 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: drive trucks into the river. They smash windows and wreck 250 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the sawmill and the radio station and the time clock. 251 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: Of course, some yeah and American managers are panicking. They 252 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: some seat cover in the jungle, or some go out 253 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: onto a boat that's tied up and just waited out. 254 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: But it's a bad sign. If the change to cafeteria 255 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: style dining sets off a riot, I think you have 256 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: a major problem. Our most damning issue, however, is the 257 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: rubber itself. So our old way of growing rubber and 258 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: harvesting rubber was to gather it from wild trees that 259 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: grew spaced out in clumps, and the space provided some 260 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: protection from pasts, while these clumps provide protection from heat. 261 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Ford's vision is to plant one point four million trees 262 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: in neat rows, because that's how factory supervisors like things. 263 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: The problem is that when you do that, it attracts 264 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: leaf blight, fungi, and pests like caterpillars less leaving the 265 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: trees completely exposed to the elements. So the rubber production, 266 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: which is the whole mission of this is completely ridiculous. 267 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: It does not work at all, and even if they've 268 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: been smarter about cultivating the rubber, the terrain of ford 269 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Land is terrible, as is the climate. The soil erodes. 270 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: It's incredibly hot and humid, which is too much for 271 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: our Michigan managers. When it rains, the water collects in 272 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: low spots, which leads to epidemics of malaria. And when 273 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't rain, we have a dry season from July 274 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: to November where the waters of the river drop up 275 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: to forty feet and the boats can't come in, and 276 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: it's not just the mosquitoes. We've also got ants and 277 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: moths plaguing our people, and we have violence too, so 278 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: this isn't just a bad camp scenario. We have things 279 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: like knife fights going on, especially in the early days, 280 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: but also later with a cafeteria riot and a protest 281 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 1: over the employment of workers from Barbados who the native 282 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: workers were upset that these imported workers were getting higher wages. 283 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: So Ford finally realizes that he picked the wrong spot. 284 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: He admits defeat. Yeah, this whole thing. He kind of 285 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 1: doesn't admit defeat though, because in nineteen thirty four he 286 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: trades part of his original concession for seven hundred three thousand, 287 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: seven hundred fifty acres to the north and sets up 288 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: yet another model town, which is going to be an 289 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: improved version of Fordlandia called bell Terra. I hope there's 290 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: not quite so much square dancing, so there are some improvements, 291 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: like a manager who makes square dancing optional and some 292 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: lessons learned. Ford is willing to erect a Catholic church immediately, 293 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: which is something he was opposed to doing in Fordlandia. 294 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: And we've got doctors who are working to eradicate malaria 295 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: with quinine, but This is still no dream city, and 296 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: certainly not for Ford. When our Amazon workers unionize in 297 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine, seriously, I mean I was kind of 298 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: blown away by that fact, unionizing the Amazon workers in 299 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine. But unlike for Landia, we actually do 300 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: get some crops out of Belterra. Amazing They're pretty pitiful, though. 301 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: In nineteen forty two there's a crop yield of seven 302 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty tons of latex, which are from Asian 303 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: tree graphs, which are less susceptible to all these pests. 304 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: And Ford had hoped though, for thirty eight thousand tons annually, 305 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: so clearly we're falling far short of that goal. Harvests 306 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: of other crops like eucalyptus, teak and balsa are also 307 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: small due to strict regulations of timber exports, and some 308 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: are used to trim Ford Lincoln's. So that's a little momentum, 309 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: I guess from bel Terra for anyone who has one 310 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: of those, But they they have a few other random 311 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: things to cinnamon, ginger, coffee, tea. Still nothing much comes 312 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: from it. Belterra is not a particularly productive town and 313 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: the war World War two is really hard on the 314 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: city because German subs actually stop supply ships from reaching 315 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: the city. So you can imagine suddenly you're relying on 316 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: your little gardens, and it would be tough times without 317 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: your Michigan tin peaches. It's finally all over by nineteen 318 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: In December of that year, officials at the Ford Motor 319 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Company announced, our war experience has taught us that synthetic 320 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: rubber is superior to natural rubber for certain of our products, 321 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: and they would return the concession to Brazil for two 322 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars and that's it. So it 323 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: makes us wonder how much did this whole thing cost. 324 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: It hask to have been a fortune, and it it was. 325 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Ford Motor Company says that it cost about twenty million 326 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: in but then a few years later documents came out 327 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: that showed it was more like twenty five million. Some 328 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: historians put it as much as thirty million, so clearly 329 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: a huge waste of money. So it may have been 330 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: a waste of money, but at least we've got some 331 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: cool ghost towns out of it. They're still there today. 332 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: It'll take you about eighteen hours on a riverboat to 333 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: get there, but you can look up some pictures and 334 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: Google images. They're pretty spooky. And I think there's spent 335 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: some talk about reviving Belterra, but not so much for 336 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: land is a lost cause still apparently no. I know. 337 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: I promised that Sarah might sing a song at the 338 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: end of this podcast, but she's actually losing her voice. 339 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: So instead we're going to recite what we think would 340 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: make a lovely introduction to the Ford Landy of musical 341 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: that you're going to write for us. We'll try to 342 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: be emphatic about it. There are you ready? I'm ready? 343 00:20:55,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Okay for Landia, Fordlandia, each your oats and don't die 344 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: in the malaria. And that is our final word on Fordlandia. 345 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: And that brings us to listener mail. Our email today 346 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: is from listener Marcella, who wrote about our Madhari podcast, 347 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: and she said, my great grand uncle was a reasonably 348 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: famous Guatemalan writer at the turn of the twentieth century. 349 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: His name was Enrique Gomez Carrio and he was the 350 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: Guatemalan consul in Paris from onwards. He was a notorious womanizer, 351 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: and family legend has it that one of his various 352 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: lovers was Matahari herself. He wrote a book about her, 353 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: and while whether he was involved with Matahari or not 354 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: is on the level of speculation, he was accused of 355 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: being responsible for bringing her to the French authorities and 356 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: deceiving her into returning to Paris, where the French detained her, 357 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: and in fact, the book he wrote about her was 358 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be Enrique's attempt to disassociate himself with the 359 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: whole case. 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