1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and we here at breaking points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: the studio ad staff, give you, guys, the best independent. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Coverage that is possible. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: If you like what we're all about, it just means 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: the absolute world to have your support. But enough with that, 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: let's get to the show. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: So in July, BB Nan Yahoo is set to address Congress. 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Some Democrats are going to boycott that speech, and we 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: happen to have one of those members of Congress who 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: will not be attending with us, Congressman Willcona. Great to 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: see again. Yeah, we love to have you here. Let's 15 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: go and put this up on the screen. This is 16 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: kind of amazing to me, is the headline here. No 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: one knows what he's going to say. White House fears 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: mount about BB's DC visit. White House has reportedly grown 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: anxious about his upcoming address. They're worried he could directly 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: criticize Joe Biden in front of Congress, which I just 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: just get your reaction to this, because this is it's 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: like the most predictable thing in the world. To me, 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: it's no secret beaving netya who would rather have Donald 24 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: Trump in office? So what were they even thinking about 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: the Democrats joining with the Republicans to invite him in 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: to address a joint session here. 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 4: It's bewildering and a'm malpracticed. I know exactly what he's 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 4: going to say, because he's put out videos criticizing the 29 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 4: president and criticizing the Democratic Party, and he's going to 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 4: go there and basically give an implicit endorsement of the 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 4: Republican Party and Donald Trump. I don't understand why any 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 4: Democrat would sit there and applaud for NETANYAHUO doing this, 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: putting aside even the more urgent moral question, which is 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: that he's prosecuted this war in a horrendous way with 35 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: civilian lives lost. So my hope is, and my expectation 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: is that you're going to have one hundred Democrats not 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 4: go Jim Cliburn, who's not traditionally the progressive Democrat, is 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 4: actually talking about having an alternative forum to put something 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: constructive out about the Middle East and peace and ending 40 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: this war and releasing the hostages. 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: Congressman, talk to us a little bit about that. So 42 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: President Biden he famously like, maybe he won't listen to 43 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: the progressive members, but he's going to listen to Jim Clyburn. 44 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Clearly a huge portion of his coalition, people like Chris 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: van Holland and others, have spoken out against the war. 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: You will have more insight into us what explains Biden's 47 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: the bear hug strategy despite I mean, Bebee in many 48 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: ways been more disrespectful to President Biden than he almost 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: was to Barack Obama. So what explains the affinity there 50 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: both between Biden and the State of Israel and then 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: the people around him too, who don't necessarily have the 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: same generational connection. 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: Well, Barack Obama was actually a break from the traditional 54 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 4: unconditional support of even the far right government of Israel. 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like it because Benny wanted to go 56 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 4: either even further for two states. But Biden has always 57 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: been more aligned with that Yahoo. He's always been unconditional 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 4: in his support of Israel since nineteen seventy two. So 59 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 4: he comes at this from a different generational perspective. And 60 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: then when he has in any way broken from unconditional 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 4: absolute support of net Yahoo, he's gotten criticized by the ADL, 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: by AJC, by the Nordon Federation of Jewish Americans, And 63 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: so I think that his people are looking at this 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: and saying, well, we want to play it safe about 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: what they aren't realizing is they're upsetting an everyone and 66 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: that the real solution here is an end to the 67 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: war in the release of the hostages that I still 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 4: believe President Biden can affectuate. 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's actually dig into that. Let's put B 70 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: two up on the screen. So, as you know, as 71 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: you alluded to, Prime Minister Netanyaho put on a video 72 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: in English by the way, you know, claiming that the 73 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: Biden administration was slow walking critical weapons. I mean, I 74 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: wish that was the case. But as far as we know, 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: there has been one shipment of two thousand pound bombs 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: that they haven't even blocked. They've just sort of slow 77 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: rolled it. BB again doubled down. He said there's been 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: a quote dramatic drop in US weapons deliveries for Israel's 79 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: war effort in Gaza. This in spite of the fact, 80 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: again the White House really rejects that. Can put B 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: three up on the screen, they say they reject these 82 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: new accusations we aren't going to keep responding to the 83 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Prime Minister's political statements. We look forward to constructive consultations 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: with Defense Minister Golant in Washington this week. 85 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: He's here this week. He also is. 86 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Under looming indectment from the International Criminal Court for war 87 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: crimes as well. You have Golan as well, So you know, 88 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: just speak a little bit to what the Biden administration 89 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: is thinking about here and what could possibly shift their orientation, 90 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: because as you're pointing out, I mean, they've done everything 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: that the Israelis have wanted them to do. Every time 92 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: there's been a red line drawn, like with regard to Rafa, 93 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: they've walked away from it and let Israel move forward. 94 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: We're about to talk in the next segment about this 95 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: looming war with Hesblah, which we've seem to have effectively 96 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: given a green light to. 97 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: So you know, is there a red line? What would 98 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: it take to actually change the policy here? 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: Well, for me, in many progressives, the biggest issue is 100 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: the morality, the issue that thirty seven thousand civilians have 101 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: died the net Yaho continues to bomb sites where women 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: and children are being killed. But putting that aside, if 103 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: you're an average American, ordinary American. You're looking at the 104 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 4: president the United States being bullied, and this is I 105 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: think the biggest issue. That the president doesn't look strong. 106 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: I mean net Yahoo puts out a video basically punching 107 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: the administration in the gut, and the President's response isn't 108 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 4: the netnya who isn't telling the truth? The President's response is, 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: we look forward to a constructive conversation with Gallan. I mean, 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: at some point Bill Clinton said America is the superpower, 111 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: and we're going to act like the superpower. And yes, 112 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: Israel's an ally, but we're going to call the shots. 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 4: And I actually think that that is the biggest issue 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: that the administration is facing, that it looks like not 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: only is he beer hugging Netnyahu, but that he's not 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 4: an active, aggressive, assertive actor on the world stage. He 117 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: tried to do that with the Peace Plan for finally 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 4: calling for a permanency as far which I supported, but 119 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 4: it needs more teeth. He needs to have the ability 120 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: to get it done. 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: What are the levers, What are the levers he could use? 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: Because what you'll hear from his defenders, well, he tried, 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: He's trying. He wants to cease fire. He gave a speech, 124 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: What are the actual levers that could pressure on these 125 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 1: rae leis to change course? Because clearly the speech isn't enough. 126 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: The leaks to Brockravihy and other reporters that like, oh 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: they're having tough conversations behind the scenes. Obviously that's not enough. 128 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: So what are some of the affirmative levers that the 129 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: US that the President of the United States could use 130 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: to actually change behavior here. 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 4: I could do what thirty seven House Democrats voted to do, 132 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: which is to stop offensive weapons to net and Yahoo. 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: He could get AID across into Gaza. I mean, what 134 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: is Israel going to stop American tanks American convoys from 135 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 4: going in with aid? Of course we could get aid 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 4: into to Gaza if we wanted to. He could be 137 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 4: much more assertive at the United Nations. But he could 138 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: just tell Netanyahu, look, you're going to end the war 139 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: or I'm going to say that both you and Hamas 140 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: aren't coming to the table. So far, every statement is 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: Hamas isn't coming to the table, and that is correct 142 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: and something. I mean, look, they need to continue to 143 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 4: put pressure on Hamas. I mean, Hamas is not some 144 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: angelic actor here, but there's never been a statement saying, well, look, 145 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 4: Netanyahu continues to have an aim of the eradication of 146 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 4: Hamas and he's not coming to the table. You know 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 4: who said that, Benny Gantz. Benny Gantz is actually willing 148 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: to say that net nya who is enacting in good 149 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: faith there. 150 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: So this is a very important point. 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Let's put this up there because we have the actual 152 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: statement you referenced, which is the White House for official 153 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: rejecting Netanyahu's new accusation. He says, we aren't going to 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: keep responding to the Prime Minister's political statements. We look 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: forward to constructive consultations with the Defense Minister in Washington 156 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: this week. That seems to me a tacit admission that 157 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: the Israelis rely almost entirely at this point on US 158 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: provided weapons. Can you give us insight into that and 159 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: then what any future incursion in Lebanon would look like? 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Could that you invite a Biden administration so called cut off, 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: because that appears to me, you know, a far more 162 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: dangerous situation, perhaps even than what's happening in Gaza right now. 163 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: It is, and the administration keeps saying, well, what has 164 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: worked is we've avoided a regional war. Well now it 165 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: looks like we aren't even avoiding a regional war. And 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: that is why what we need to do is make 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: it clear to Gallant, to net Yahoo that we're going 168 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: to stop the offensive weapons. They need to come with 169 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: a permanency's fire and a release of hostages. Now, if 170 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 4: they agreed to those terms, that Hamas still does not 171 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: agree to release the hostages, it'll be clear for the 172 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: world to see that Israel was willing to do everything 173 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: to stop the war and Hamas still is enacting. But 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 4: they've never put the pressure on net Yahoo to do that. 175 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: And that is the only thing that's going to stabilize 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 4: the Middle East. It's the only thing in my view, 177 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: that is going to help the president also politically bring 178 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: this war to it. 179 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's a key point because we don't 180 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: really have leverage with Hamas. We don't fund Humas, right, 181 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: we don't have the you know, the sort of diplomatic 182 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: tools we can use with Jumas. Israel is holding dependent 183 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: on us both diplomatically and directly in terms of weapons 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: to continue their prosecution of the war. So I think 185 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: that's really key for people ultimately to understand, going back 186 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to this speech to Congress from net and Yahoo, what 187 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: is your prediction of how many Democrats boycott? You mentioned 188 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: that connorsoon Clyburn is planning some alternative forum EARTC take 189 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: us inside some of the plans that are happening on 190 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: the Democratic side of the aisle among people who are 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: not going to attend to try to expose what's going 192 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: on and dissent from the Biden administration policy. 193 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 4: Well, just to be clear, this speech is going to 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: be a one way lecture by net Yaho criticizing the 195 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: Democratic Party, criticizing our president, and supporting implicitly Donald Trump 196 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: and Republicans. I just don't see how is a Democratic 197 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: Congress person you can show up and applaud that, and 198 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: stand up again and again and applaud that. So I 199 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: hope and expect that over one hundred Democrats aren't going 200 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 4: to show up one hundred House Democrats. There was about 201 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: sixty for when he came, when Obama was president. And 202 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: what Representative Cliburn is talking about is having a constructive 203 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: conversation with Jewish Americans, Palestinian Americans and others about what 204 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: a two state solution looks like a secure Israel, a 205 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: secure Palestine and having the Gulf allies involved in getting there, 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: having the United States in mind, you recognize a Palestinian 207 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: state that one hundred and forty three other countries have done, 208 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: but having a constructive vision. Look, I talked to everyone, 209 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: you know that I go on all the shows, and 210 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: I've said I would be fine in a group talking 211 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 4: to net and Yahoo. But what I'm not going to 212 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: do is sit there and applaud while he tells blatant 213 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: on truths like he has on the video. 214 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's well said. I also wanted to 215 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: ask you, Commerson, Obviously you're apporting Joe Biden for reelection. 216 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: There are many young people who feel that his support 217 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: of what they and I and many other international observercy 218 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: is a genocide is a red line in terms of morality. 219 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: You know, what's your message to them? And also for you, 220 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: is there a red line beyond what you would say? 221 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: You know what, listen on these issues. I do feel 222 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: like he's better than Trump, but this is just a 223 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: red line morally for me. I cannot support someone who 224 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: is complicit in a genocide. 225 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 4: I understand people's frustration, they're moral concerns, and I certainly 226 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: can't lecture them to make a choice. And I also 227 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: think that the administration's underestimating this issue in terms of 228 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: the outcome. They look at the polls and they say 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: it's it's one or two percent of people of care. 230 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 4: What they don't realize is that among the organizers, among 231 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: the activists, this is the only thing people are talking about. 232 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: So if you want to get the president's message out 233 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: on healthcare, on rent, on the economy, you're not being 234 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: able to do it, or on climate because all the 235 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: groups are taught looking that Palestine. My message to them is, 236 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I want peace there. 237 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: I want a Palestinian state living side by side with 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: an israel state. And I believe that we have a 239 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: much better chance of making progress towards that with a 240 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: Joe Biden and a Democratic coalition that keeps growing with 241 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 4: progressive ranks than we do with Donald Trump, who's basically 242 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: gonna even bear Hugnett and Yahoo stronger and give carte 243 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: blanche the extreme right. Politics is a tough business where 244 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: we don't always get the ideal and we make progress 245 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: inch by inch. That's the case, but I certainly wouldn't 246 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 4: shame anyone if they are voting their conscience on this. 247 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: All right, well we at least get that no shame 248 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: here from a politician. I appreciate you, sir, Thank. 249 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 3: You so much for joining, Thank you for having me. 250 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: Great to see you. 251 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: So we have a bunch of additional Israel updates for 252 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: you as well. As I mentioned before, Defense ministerry go 253 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: off galant is in town for meetings that are supposed 254 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: to In particular, take a look at what is going 255 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: on with Israel's potential all out war against Hesbela in Lebanon. 256 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Can put this up on the screen. Very troubling signs 257 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: here coming from the administration, in particular, US officials, this 258 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: reporter for CNN Rights have not explicitly told Israel they 259 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: oppose any attack against Hesbla, but warned it could lead 260 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: to a greater war. A US official said, Israel's made 261 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: the case it can pull off a quote blitzkrieg. The 262 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: US is not so sure. Let me give you a 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: little bit more of that CNN reporting. They specifically say 264 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: senior US officials reassured a delegation of top Israeli officials 265 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: visiting Washington this week that if a full out war 266 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: were to break out on Israel's northern border between Israel 267 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: and Hesbla. The Biden administration is fully prepared to back 268 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: its ally, according to a senior administration official, and this 269 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: looks more and more like a possibility, if not a guarantee, 270 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: that they are headed towards this all out war Saga. 271 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably saw net Yahoo over the weekend 272 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: indicating that they may be shifting to a different phase. 273 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: In terms of Gaza. They had a number of horrific, 274 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: deadly strikes of the weekend will bring you in a moment, 275 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: but they've basically destroyed They destroyed northern Gaza, they destroyed 276 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: Central Gaza, They've now destroyed southern Gaza, so there isn't 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: a lot more of the Gaza strip left to destroy. 278 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: Bibi nat Yahoo wants to continue to postpone that after 279 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: the war conversation about what has gone wrong. He wants 280 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: to continue to hold onto his grip of power, and 281 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: so in his logic, now starting in all out war 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: against Hezbola makes all of the political sense in the world, 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: even as it is incredibly dangerous for Israelis. It's obviously 284 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous for Lebanese civilians, and it's also incredibly dangerous 285 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: for our troops who are stationed in the region. 286 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: It's way more dangerous for Israelis than anything that's been 287 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: happening with Hamas. Let's put this up there pleas on 288 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: the screen and it shows, for example, just exactly what 289 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: they are inviting. So two Israelis were already wounded yesterday 290 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: by anti tank fire from a Lebanon netsannaw who claiming 291 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: that the quote intense part of Gaza fighting is almost over, 292 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: but the anti tank missiles and others have what caused 293 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: Crystal the entire northern part of Israel to be evacuated. 294 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: And a lot of IDF soldiers have already lost their 295 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: lives as a result of has Bowl of Fire. And 296 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: they allegedly are not even in a war right, so 297 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: this is a much much stronger group. There's also some 298 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: fear here about potential let's say manufacturing consent, I guess 299 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: is the best way to try and draw the Israel 300 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: into the war, making claims about weapons being stored at 301 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: the Bairut airport to Pavilion Beyroot Airport, which means what, oh, 302 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: that's a good justification to bomb it and It's like, well, 303 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: if we're bombing airports now, cutting off supplies in and 304 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: out of the country, this just has significantly bigger potential. 305 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: Not only do you have Lebanon, by the way, is 306 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: an actual sovereign state, right, So there's first, there's that. 307 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: Then they Hezbollah has got fighters all across of Syria, 308 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: they have actual connections to Iran, they have much deeper pockets, 309 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: and it could ignite a full blown regional war and 310 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: completely destabilize the entire region. There is another US aircraft 311 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: carrier heading to replace the US S. Eisenhower in the 312 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: Huth emissions, so there's more firepower. That's on why, I 313 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: believe is the USS Theodore Roosevelt. So the US is 314 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: still prepared in a real threat position for anything to 315 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: pop off. 316 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 317 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: So with regard to that report you're talking about, which 318 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: people are you know, really looking at very skeptically. I'm 319 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: just going to go, I think it's complete BS. But 320 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the Telegraph published this report that HESBLA has been accumulating 321 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: large quantities of Iranian weapons, missiles and bombs at the 322 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: Central Civilian Airport in Beirut. According to testimony that exposes 323 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: corruption at the airport, They did not provide any other 324 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: just anonymous sources, actual evidence that such a thing is occurring. 325 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: Also very noteworthy, of course, the timing of this report 326 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: being published in the Telegraph right now. Lebanon's airport authlready 327 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: deny the reports, said they presented no proof for evidence, 328 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: added that the outlet bears all responsibility for the safety 329 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of airport staff and inviting media outlets to visit the 330 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,719 Speaker 1: airport to see for themselves. And yeah, you could see 331 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: the way very easily, the way this could be used 332 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: as justification for bombing that airport. 333 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 3: And then we've also seen the way. 334 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: Israel and Gaza once they justified, for example, the bombing 335 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: of one hospital, the rating of one hospital, well then 336 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it was open season on effectively all civilian infrastructure within Gaza. 337 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 3: This is not just out of nowhere either. 338 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: We've had multiple high level Israeli officials going back to 339 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: the beginning of this particular war, talking about how they 340 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: could do to Lebanon what they've done to Gaza. 341 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: So those threats have been made. They've been made very clearly. 342 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: By the way, we shouldn't ignore the fact there have 343 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: already been tit for attacks between Hesbelah and Israel. You 344 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: still have the entire population of northern Israel who have 345 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: been relocated temporarily because of this ongoing fighting. 346 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 3: You also had last. 347 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: Week we showed you that drone footage that Hesbelah was 348 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: able to obtain, seemingly circumventing the Iron Dome Dome defense 349 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: system in order to record via drone some sensitive sites 350 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: as effectively you know, a threat against Israel if they 351 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: go ahead and escalate the war. There was a quote 352 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: from the head of Hesbela saying something like there would 353 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: be no ceiling, no limit, no rules, nothing out of 354 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: bounds if we did go to that level. So this 355 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: is a major major threat that everyone should be deeply 356 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: concerned about. And the fact that you don't even have 357 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. You know, they say they want to 358 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: avoid and all out war, but they're also saying in 359 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: the same breath, we've got your back if you do 360 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: it like we know how this play own. Bb doesn't 361 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: care if you're like uncomfortable with it. What he might 362 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: care about is if you actually cut off the weapons, 363 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: if you actually pull the diplomatic support. 364 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: But we know very well that Biden is never going 365 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: to do that. 366 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: And you know part of the way that Israel has 367 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: justified all of these assaults on civilians and civilian infrastructure 368 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: in Gaza strip is Hamas uses people as human shields, 369 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: and you could very much see them using the same 370 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: rhetoric viz A vihsbla this airport report being a prelude 371 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: to that. Well, let's talk about human shields, because put 372 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: this video up on the screen. What you're looking at 373 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: here is an IDF vehicle that has an injured human being, 374 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: a Palestinian who was injured tied to the hood of 375 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 1: this vehicle. By the way, this isn't in Gaza. This 376 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: is in the West Bank, using an injured Palestinian here 377 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: as a literal human shield here on video for everyone 378 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: to see. So next time they tell you about human 379 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: shields and they say, oh, this is under investigation, I'm 380 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: sure they're going to get back to us on that saga. 381 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll hear a lot of accountability for these 382 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: actions which are totally out of line with the most 383 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: moral army in the world's act typical action. 384 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: So they will be investigating the incident. So yeah, yeah, 385 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: we'll hold it our brother on that one investigate incident. 386 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: At the same time, we've had a number of deadly strikes. 387 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: We can put this up on the screen in both 388 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: really throughout the Gaza strip. This one in particular shows 389 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the bombing of an. 390 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 3: AID distribution senator center. 391 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, the very last numbers I saw were that at 392 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: least eight people were killed in that air strike. We 393 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: can put the next one up on the screen, which 394 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: shows some of the details of an additional Israeli airstrike 395 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: near Rafa. This actually occurred right in that humanitarian zone 396 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: where they've been telling people to flee almawassee for months, 397 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: but at this point. This article from the AP says 398 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: the Israeli forces shelled tent camps for displaced Palestinians outside 399 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: Gaza southern city of Rafa on Friday, killing at least 400 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: twenty five people and wounding another fifty, according to the 401 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: Territori's health officials and emergency workers. Witnesses whose relatives died 402 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: in one of the bombardments near a Red Crossfield hospital 403 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 1: north of Rafa told the AP that Israeli forces fired 404 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: a second volley that killed people who came out of 405 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,479 Speaker 1: their tents. So there was a first volley and then 406 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: when people came out of their tents where they were 407 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: displaced in this supposedly safe zone. When they emerged, there 408 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: was a second volley that then killed those people who 409 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: came out of their tents. So the horrors in the 410 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: Gaza Strip continuing. As I mentioned before, these are the 411 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: sorts of things that they have threatened to unleash also 412 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: on the Lebanese civilian population. 413 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: Well that's the terrifying part. It's just about the explosion 414 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: about where things are. If Gallant here laterally in Washington, 415 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: slowing up traffic this morning, by the way, mister Gallant, 416 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: and he is here to what beg for more weapons 417 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 2: and to set the ground for the Hesbola campaign and 418 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: BB's eventual visit here to Washington. So he's here to 419 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: suss things out and to make sure smooth things over 420 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: with the Pentagon, make sure that the delivery schedules continue 421 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: with ammunition and with all of the other weapons. But 422 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: it does give us deep insight into how much Israel 423 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: and it's military actually does rely on us resupply. So 424 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: don't let anybody tell you that we don't have tremendous 425 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 2: amounts of leverage. I know everyone knew that intuitively, but 426 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: when the number one complaint is give us the weapons 427 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 2: to finish the job. What does that tell you? It's like, oh, 428 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: you don't have weapons to finish the job. And I 429 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: also want to say it really does erase a lot 430 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 2: of Israeli myths and lies. I tell you, tell you, 431 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: when I was over there, they used to brag so 432 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: much about how self sufficient they were about their military. 433 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: And you guys have been funding us for all this time, 434 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: but we've used that money to really invest in ourselves 435 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 2: and this, this and that, and so it's like, you 436 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: guys can't even go ten months into a war without 437 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: getting your hand out more weapon. What kind of military 438 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: are you? It's like, look at you're like Ukraine, you know, 439 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: but allegedly what you know, some great Silicon valley startup nations, 440 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 2: so that there's there's a lot of lessons in that too. 441 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, what this looks like. And you know, to the congressman, 442 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: we just talked to the congressman. 443 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: Conna's point about just the level of humiliation at this point, 444 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: it's just like a certain point, don't you just have 445 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: any shame as a man? Like it's so astonishing Biden 446 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: has done everything that bb has wanted. 447 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 3: Him to do. 448 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: They slow walked one shipment of two thousand pound bombs. 449 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: That's it, okay. And in spite of that, BB is 450 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: clearly trying to undercut him, clearly trying to stab him 451 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: in the back to keep him from getting re elected. 452 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 1: Puts on a video in English doing exactly as I described, 453 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: doubles down on that than in Hebrew as well. And 454 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, first we get this report that they 455 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: rescheduled a meeting because they were so upset. Oh, they 456 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: rescheduled a meeting, Oh my goodness. 457 00:23:59,720 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 458 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: But then once that report went out, then they were 459 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: desperate to walk that back. And no, no, we would 460 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: never reschedule a meeting. We would never do that. And 461 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: I promise we're giving them everything that they want whenever 462 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: they want it. Don't worry about it. Now they're having 463 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: these meetings with you av Galant, clearly to try to 464 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: reassure him that, of course, will give them all of 465 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: the weapons they want to continue, you know, bombing civilians 466 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: and unreaid facilities and displace people intents, etc. 467 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 3: It's just it's so pathetic. 468 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: You think about the interview with Aaron Burnett where he 469 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: talked about you know Rafa is a red line, and 470 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: that we would you know, reevaluate weaponshipments if they launch 471 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: a major invasion into Rafa. 472 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: Well, guess what they've been in Rafa for how long now? 473 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 3: How many weeks? Now? How many people have been killed? 474 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: All those people that were millions of people who were 475 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: displaced in Rafa have either had to move or they're 476 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: being directly bombed. And even when they've gone to the 477 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: safe zones, they've also been bombed. Not a word about 478 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: that supposed red line. Then you had the ploy of 479 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: we're going to put out the ceasefire proposal that the 480 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Israelis had sort of agreed to. Biden's going to give 481 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,160 Speaker 1: this big speech. He's going to lay on this these 482 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: fire proposal. He's going to really frame it as this 483 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: came from Israel, and so we're just waiting for Amas. 484 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: We just had Biby come out and rebuke that walk 485 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: away from that ceasefire dell that purportedly came from him 486 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: and say no, no, we'll do a partial hostage release 487 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: and then we want to go back to war. We 488 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Where is Biden's upset over their 489 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: rebuke of his every word, every you know, insistence, every 490 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: desire that he's put out there. They Baby in particular 491 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: seems to take particular glee in rebuking him directly undercutting 492 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: him and humiliating him. It's horrible for his political prospects, 493 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: which I don't really care about, but you would think. 494 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: That he would. 495 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: It's horrible for you know, Israeli interests even and the 496 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: interest of future security for Israeli's and it's obviously outrageously immorble, immoral, 497 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: and horrific for the people in Gaza. It's just it's 498 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: just incredible at this point. And it does go to 499 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: Sager also. I mean, this man is just like out 500 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: of it and incapable of really you know man having 501 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: a commanding presence or any sort of commanding policy. He's 502 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: sort of on autopilot. This is what the autopilot instructions have, 503 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: and so. 504 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: Here we are. 505 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually think that's a huge part of it, 506 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: is that whenever you're old, it's just you know, expending energure, 507 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: Expending energy is difficult. 508 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: So what do you do. 509 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: You go to what is comfortable and you just stick 510 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: with that. And I think that's a big part of 511 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: why he even allows so much of this to happen. 512 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think I'd ever be in this position. 513 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: But like even Obama did not take it upstanding. When 514 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 2: bb came to Washington and shit all over his own 515 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: foreign policy, he really took it. He did not take 516 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: it well, reamed BB out in private during their meeting, 517 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: gave a statement against the Israeli Prime Minister. His whole 518 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: White House was geared up for war against the Israelis 519 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: and the lobby and APAC here in Washington, which they 520 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: did beat. They actually beat them on the Iran deal 521 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 2: that doesn't exist this time around. 522 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Obama, it's not. 523 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: Like it was great on Israeli best he though, like 524 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: his big brave moment was what he didn't veto a 525 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: UN resolution to Security. 526 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: Council in twenty sixteen. 527 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: R on his way out. 528 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Winning was on his way on the tour. But that 529 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: does lose sight of the fact that the Iranian nuclear deal. 530 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: Israel hated that, and BB nine now in particular hated it, 531 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: and he did accomplish that over APAC objections and over 532 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: the direct objections of the Israelis. Clearly Biden does not 533 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: have that in him on any level whatsoever. 534 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly all right, Tacker, we you're looking at well. 535 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 2: I think it's probably fair to say I wouldn't be 536 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: doing this job if it weren't for nine to eleven. 537 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 2: Nine to eleven, the Iraq War and the Bush presidency 538 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: spurred me into politics at a very young age, because 539 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: I grew up in a place where the full on 540 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 2: mass Formation psychosis took hold. For a variety of reasons, 541 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: it didn't work, but I watched people who I liked 542 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 2: and even respected fully cheer on the war in Iraq 543 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: by the Bush administration's lies, well past the time it 544 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 2: was obvious that they had all fallen apart. Twenty three 545 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 2: years later, though, it is now shocking even to an 546 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 2: extreme cynic like me, the extent to which it is 547 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: now just openly and publicly acknowledged that everything that we 548 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: were told about nine to eleven in the aftermath of 549 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: the event was alive, specifically with respect to the Saudi 550 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: government and its outright involvement in the plot that killed 551 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: over three thousand innocent civilians in the span of a 552 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: few months. Now, absolutely shocking new information has come to 553 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: light that reveals two things. One the extent of the 554 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: Saudi connection. It's as deep as the cynics always suspected, 555 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: and two, there is no explanation for any of this 556 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: information staying hidden for so long other than an explicit 557 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: bipartisan cover up lasting twenty three years. Let's start with 558 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: the first, and perhaps the craziest, a new video now 559 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: released by CBS News sixty minutes showing Saudi government agent 560 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 2: Omar al Bayumi casing out the US capital in nineteen 561 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: ninety nine. Four al Qaeda. 562 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 5: A voice on the video says in Arabic, I am 563 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 5: transmitting these scenes to you from the heart of the 564 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: American capital, Washington, washing for This video, unsealed in federal 565 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 5: court this week and obtained by sixty Minutes, was recorded 566 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: in the summer of nineteen ninety nine. 567 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: Auction book put on. 568 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: Man behind the camera is Omar al Beyumi, who the 569 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: FBI says was an operative of the Saudi intelligence Service 570 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 5: with close ties to two of the nine to eleven hijackers. 571 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 5: We go for I'm a fig PM. The video was 572 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 5: filmed over several days. Beyumi recorded entrances and exits of 573 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: the Capitol security posts, a model of the building and 574 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: nearby Landmarks monument. In this portion of the video, Beyumi 575 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: points out the Washington Monument and says, I will get 576 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 5: over there and report to you in detail what is there. 577 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: He also notes the airport is not far away for. 578 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: Those not familiar. 579 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: That is truly insane stuff, because it proves definitively that 580 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: the nine to eleven Commission and the Bush administration completely lied. 581 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: The official story from the nine to eleven Commission and 582 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: the Saudi government is that Omar al Bayoumi was a 583 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: tangential Saudi government ish connected official. He just happened to 584 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: live in southern Cali before nine to eleven. According to them, 585 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Bayoumi happened to be in the same Los Angeles restaurant 586 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: as two of the nine to eleven hijackers, he overheard 587 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: them speaking Arabic, and, according to the official narrative, out 588 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 2: of the goodness of his heart, he just gave them 589 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars arranging apartment for them in San Diego, 590 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 2: where he was also living across the street at the time, 591 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: just because he was a good Muslim. At no time, 592 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: according to him, did he know or suspect they were 593 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 2: al Qaeda, and he was simply, as I said, just 594 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: a good guy helping others. In need. FBI officials actually 595 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 2: bought his story, and the Bush administration just waved it 596 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 2: all away. The nine to eleven Commission followed suit by 597 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 2: classifying twenty eight pages of that commission report, which spelled 598 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: out more of al Bayoumi's Saudi government connections that remained 599 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: classified up until twenty and sixteen. In the meantime, the 600 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: American people were left only with the public declaration from 601 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: the Commission that said, quote, we have found no evidence 602 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: that the Saudi government as an institution, or senior Saudi 603 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: officials individually funded al Qaeda. Remember this was two thousand 604 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: and two. If you were a renegade who thought that 605 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: the government was lying, you only had the nascent internet 606 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: boards and your friends to talk about this. This was 607 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: the cable news era and the heyday. They bought this 608 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: story hook line and sinker. In the meantime, at the 609 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: very same time their platforming Bush Administration lies about how 610 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: actually Saddam Hussein was responsible for nine to eleven. We 611 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: got to lead you a war into false pretenses. By 612 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: that point, the conversation is no longer about nine to eleven. 613 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 2: It's about Iraq WMD, and we forgot very quickly. But 614 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: The people who didn't forget are the families of the 615 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: victims who died on nine to eleven, murdered in cold 616 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,239 Speaker 2: blood by al Kaida, who have long sought restitution from 617 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: the Saudi government for its complicity, and through sheer force 618 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: of will, have forced this information out into the open. 619 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: You might be asking, hey, how did that video even 620 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: stay secret this long? Of course, the answer is right 621 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: in front of you. The FBI was in possession of 622 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: this video via British intelligence just mere days after nine 623 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: to eleven. It was then covered up and kept secret 624 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: until today only because the victims of nine to eleven 625 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: family lawsuit ended up dredging it up. Just the latest 626 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: bombshell revelation that they have given us in the span 627 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: of a few months. You may have missed this, but 628 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: there's even more to the story that definitively again proves 629 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: the Saudi connection to nine to eleven. Just a month ago, 630 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: the victims of nine to eleven families revealed they have 631 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: learned through their lawsuit that Omar al Bayumi and another 632 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: Saudi official linked to nine to eleven hijackers quote were 633 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: not rogue operators, but rather the front end of a 634 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: conspiracy that included the Saudi embassy in Washington and senior 635 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: government officials in Riyad. They confirmed that Bayoumi organized housing 636 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: for the hijackers at the behest of the government and 637 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: took care of their day to day needs, including introducing 638 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: them to other terrorists officials. They also found a sketch 639 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: seized from all Bayumi's apartment quote of a drawing of 640 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: a plane alongside a calculation used to discern the distance 641 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 2: which a target on the ground would be visible from 642 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: a certain altitude. So, in other words, not only did 643 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: he know about the plot, he actively helped the hijackers, 644 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: and himself appears to have been an Al Qaeda agent 645 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: working for the Saudi government here on us soil. Imagine 646 00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 2: if any of this had been known in two thousand, 647 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: when the Bush administration was trying to take us into war. Now, look, 648 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm happy it's out today for people like me to 649 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 2: have their worst suspicions confirmed. But in a sense, it 650 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: no longer matters. We already invaded Iraq, we already screwed 651 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: up in Afghanistan. The worst has already happened. Trillions lost, 652 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: millions killed, soldiers maimed, killed, all under false pretenses. So 653 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 2: let this be a lesson that many questions about nine 654 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: to eleven remain unsolved, and that much of the official 655 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 2: narrative is still a straight up lie, and it's still 656 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: all of our duty to not forget that story after 657 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: it was done, both in our name and in the 658 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: names of the victims, because there's still a lot left 659 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: to uncover here. So I mean, it's crazy stuff right well, 660 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: And if you 661 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: Want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a 662 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: premium subscriber today at breakingpoints dot com.