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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Ink here with Garrett Downing and we are

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Speaker 2: going to preview the Ravens Week one game against the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs Thursday night from Arrowhead Stadium. Garrett, doesn't

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Speaker 2: get much better than this, starting off against the two

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Speaker 2: time defending champions, the team that knocked the Ravens out

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Speaker 2: of playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Stunning. Gosh, it feels like forever ago.

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Speaker 3: But in some ways it feels like forever go. Some

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Speaker 3: of the ways it feels like yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a while ago.

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Speaker 2: To me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I've just done a good job

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Speaker 1: of burying the horrible.

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Speaker 3: Memories moving off from it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but but this is going to be an exciting,

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Speaker 2: exciting game with the whole the world watching right on

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Speaker 2: that primetime stage to kick off the season. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: for this one.

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Speaker 4: I mean, look, when the schedule came out and you

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Speaker 4: saw that the Raves were playing the Chiefs in Week

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Speaker 4: one to open the season, it was the easy circle

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Speaker 4: on the calendar. This is the AFC Championship rematch. This

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Speaker 4: is again that everybody's gonna want to see. It's more

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Speaker 4: versus Mahomes like all the narrative storylines, like, there's no

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Speaker 4: shortage of them. There's there's a million of them, and

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Speaker 4: we're going to talk to a bunch of them over

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Speaker 4: the course of this episode.

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Speaker 3: But it's really exciting.

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Speaker 4: I think it's exciting for the Ravens to be on

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Speaker 4: the at the center of the NFL stage. And you know,

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Speaker 4: I think that's where they belong. That's where they belong

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Speaker 4: with while they've played the last several years, it's it's

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Speaker 4: where they've where they belong with Lamar Jackson's a two

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Speaker 4: time MVP quarterback. This is a matchup between who I

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Speaker 4: expect to be two of the best teams in the

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Speaker 4: AFC and two players who I think will be right

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Speaker 4: in the thick of the MVP conversation throughout the year.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's exciting. I think it's it's really exciting

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Speaker 4: for the NFL to to kick it off this way,

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Speaker 4: and like you know, the NFL, everyone watches a kickoff

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Speaker 4: game because its the first game of the season. Years excited,

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Speaker 4: it's excited to have football back, right, And so I

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Speaker 4: didn't really expect them to put this game there because

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Speaker 4: you could have put this in Week fifteen and had

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Speaker 4: this like this great.

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Speaker 1: Kind of exactly everybody's gonna be watching.

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Speaker 4: You could kind of have this ace in the hole

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Speaker 4: wait in the season that you put Lamar versus Mahomes

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Speaker 4: up on a Sunday night football game or whatever. But

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Speaker 4: the fact that they wanted to kick it off with this,

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Speaker 4: I think just speaks to the magnitude and the excitement

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Speaker 4: around this game in particular. And they're like, we want

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Speaker 4: to start things off with a bang, and that's exactly

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Speaker 4: what the league is doing.

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Speaker 2: Well. Obviously, the big R word has been all the

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Speaker 2: talk around Baltimore revenge, right, And that was a question

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Speaker 2: to a lot of Ravens players they feel like this

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Speaker 2: is a revenge game or whatnot. Lamar Jackson said, it

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Speaker 2: feels like every game is a revenge game, especially whoever

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Speaker 2: he's lost to wants to come back and beat him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's how he operates. You know, there's there's no running obviously,

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Speaker 2: obviously last year's AFC Championship game, like you know, that's

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Speaker 2: still a memory that's buried in your brain, right, that's

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Speaker 2: not going anywhere. There of course, is a factor in

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Speaker 2: this game of like they beat us, we're pissed. We

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Speaker 2: want to beat them, right, But here's the thing. You

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Speaker 2: can't get even in this game. You can get ahead.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's what this game is about. For

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Speaker 2: me and for the Ravens. It's about gil and want

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Speaker 2: to know and making putting them one game you really

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Speaker 2: one and a half, right, Because, like you're saying, these

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Speaker 2: two teams are going to be two of the best

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Speaker 2: teams the AFC when we come to the season's end,

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Speaker 2: I think that you're going to be talking about tiebreakers

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Speaker 2: and all those kind of things. If you're playing for

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Speaker 2: home field advantage, that's that's down the line. But you

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Speaker 2: want to you want to beat these guys to get

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Speaker 2: ahead of them in the standings. And yes, of course, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it'll just feel good emotionally after what they did to you,

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs it'll feel good too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you put it well. I don't

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Speaker 4: think you can. It's not about getting eve into it's

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Speaker 4: about a gang ahead. I think that's like a good

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Speaker 4: way of looking at it. Like I agree with with

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Speaker 4: course that's the last time the Ravens played a real

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Speaker 4: game and that's how it ended, and so it's there's

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Speaker 4: like no John Harbaugh was asked this week about whether

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Speaker 4: there's carryover from that game, and he's like, well, of course,

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Speaker 4: I mean there's carryover from everything, but like he's aware

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Speaker 4: of that. The Ravens are certainly aware of that, and

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Speaker 4: he's like he made the point like I'm not downplaying that,

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Speaker 4: but I'm also like I'm not overplaying it. Like it's there,

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I really I don't get the sense, like the whole

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Speaker 4: that the Ravens are looking at this as like, man,

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Speaker 4: we got to beat these guys because they ended our

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Speaker 4: season last year and that's the that's the driving motivation

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Speaker 4: the focal point. From what I've gathered, I get the

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Speaker 4: sense that it's like, hey man, we're starting the season

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Speaker 4: and we want to go out there and win for

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Speaker 4: all those reasons aside from the fact that they ended

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Speaker 4: the Ravens season last year. I really don't get any

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Speaker 4: sense that this is like, this is the revenge game

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Speaker 4: and this is what it's all about. I think that

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Speaker 4: that's the subplot. It's fun to talk about, but I

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Speaker 4: think that for the Ravens there really are looking at

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Speaker 4: it from more of a twenty twenty four lens and

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Speaker 4: the focus on getting ahead and starting things off on

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Speaker 4: the right note.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely agree.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about starting things on the right note,

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Speaker 2: that's what John Harball and the Ravens have done. They

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Speaker 2: have a very good Week one record during his tenure

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Speaker 2: twelve and four. That's a seven to fifty winning percentage,

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Speaker 2: is tied for the third best mark in NFL history

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Speaker 2: in team openers with a minimum of fifteen games coach

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Speaker 2: twelve and four for John Harball. So he has done

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Speaker 2: a good job over the years of getting his team

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Speaker 1: Time to prepare.

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Speaker 2: I like having that extra time to get ready for

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Speaker 2: that are involved with that, right Like, that's why I

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Speaker 2: was also happy about getting the Chiefs Week one is

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Speaker 2: here's the toughest opponent on the Ravens schedule, and the

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Speaker 2: Ravens have played pretty darn well in Week one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like they usually come out firing. And look, the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are an awesome team. They lost in Week one last year, right,

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna sit here and hang my coat

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Speaker 2: on that. They also lost it. They lost the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: They won the last game they played so right.

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Speaker 3: Well, they also, like they lost to the Lions last year.

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Speaker 1: Who that's what I'm saying. They lost the Lions Week one,

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Speaker 1: you know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, like the Lion It's not like that they

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Speaker 4: lost to a team that ended up going like, you know,

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Speaker 4: six to eleven. The Lions were in the NFC Championship

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 2: So, but I do think that there is something to that,

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Speaker 2: right when you when you have a seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: like that For the Ravens. They've also been really good

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Speaker 2: go there on that stage, like this team has risen

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Speaker 1: Especially on the road. I like that it's on the

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Speaker 1: road too, Like this team loves, they love.

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Speaker 2: And this is the case for a lot of teams

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Speaker 2: being the underdog, being all that stuff. Like you go

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Speaker 2: in there, they raised the championship banner, they beat you

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Speaker 2: last time. This team like always thrives off of that.

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Speaker 2: You know, when they went out to San Francisco last year,

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Speaker 2: I was talking about the forty nine ers were the

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Speaker 2: They went out there and whooped them. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 2: expect the Raves to go out and whoop the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll get to her the big I'll save that.

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Speaker 2: But like you know, I like, I just like the

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Speaker 2: position that this team is in going into this game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I think that. You know, the super Bowl

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Speaker 4: banner raising and celebration before the game again, that plays

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Speaker 4: And you know, John Harbaugh told me this week, like yeah,

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Speaker 4: long term goal, Like the Ravens want to earn the

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Speaker 4: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I do. I I'm with you.

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Speaker 4: I think that like opening it with the Chiefs, I

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Speaker 4: think just even all the narrative stuff aside, I like

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Speaker 4: that part of the reason the Ravens have been really

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Speaker 4: think in some instances, like there is an element of

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Speaker 4: lot of teams, but like the Ravens in twenty nineteens,

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Speaker 3: And last year there's uncertain about what the offense is

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Speaker 4: I think there's still an element year one with Tom Lonkhan,

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Speaker 4: I think there's still an element of that uncertainty based

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Speaker 4: this year on some of the evolution of the second season.

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Speaker 3: Under Mounket Henry impact. How does Derrick Henry play into it?

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Speaker 4: Like, I think that there's there there's some questions about

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Speaker 4: how the Ravens are going to play offensively and defense.

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Speaker 1: Obviously of course the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Ravens have been pretty clear that the

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Speaker 2: scheme doesn't change all that much, but the play caller

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Speaker 2: has changed. Yeah, and so what they end up doing

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Speaker 2: in third and five, you know, in the third quarter

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Speaker 2: might be different under Zach Order than it was Mike.

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Speaker 1: Donald, Right, So there is an element of mystery there too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And like, look, there's a lot of teams can

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Speaker 4: say there's mystery that plays into it, but it just

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Speaker 4: seems like that it seems like that has been an

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: in terms of what's new, I think that what I

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Speaker 4: like that's the biggest difference. And if you go back

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Speaker 3: I probably I don't think that I think that Derek

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Speaker 2: That wasn't the case last year, right that you didn't.

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Speaker 2: Let's also not point forget Derrick Henry has played six

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I might.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy, huh. But like this guy has when

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Speaker 1: So, so I liked what he had to say This week.

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Speaker 2: I asked him about whether, you know, watching last year's

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Speaker 1: And I like that answer. I like where his head's at.

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Speaker 2: Ready to get my stif arm people in a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now, the big question, and the other thing that's very

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Speaker 1: Three new starters.

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Speaker 2: At the top of the depth chart if you're going

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Speaker 4: I think that the way I see this offensive line

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Speaker 3: It's a young group.

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Speaker 4: Basically, this could be a work in progress the course

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Speaker 4: Like nobody was talking about John Simpson, Man, this guy's

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Speaker 1: Well, it's three spots. You know, last year was like

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Speaker 4: The difference is now it's three spots that you're replacing starters, right,

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Speaker 4: But I also I think that the Ravens believe that

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Speaker 3: Like you're gonna have your hands full, right.

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones is going to be walking up and down

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Speaker 1: I'm going to test all of them, yeah, and I'm

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Speaker 2: That's what he's going to be looking for. And the

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Speaker 4: And Steves Fagnola, the defensive coordinator, who the Ravens know, well,

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Speaker 4: He's going to be looking for the weak spot and

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Speaker 3: And we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Like again, I think the Ravens have confidence and optimism,

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Speaker 4: Scantling, who you know, came up with a big play

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Speaker 4: against the Ravens at the end of that game, but

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Speaker 4: and didn't had didn't make some plasure of the Chiefs

439
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Speaker 4: over the year. Of of course, of the year he's gone.

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Speaker 4: So you sub in Hollywood and Xavier Worthy, and I

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Speaker 4: do think that I think that the Chiefs will take

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Speaker 4: some shots down the field to Xavi you Worthy. I

443
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Speaker 4: think they'll test the secondary. We we love the secondary,

444
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Speaker 4: think it's great, but I think the Chiefs will see

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Speaker 4: it say let's let's see how good it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how many matchups there are between

447
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Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins and Xavier Worthy. I wonder about that Worthy

448
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: drafted two picks ahead of them. It's the speed on speed,

449
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Speaker 2: Nate Wiggans said. He told me specifically, said, yeah, we're

450
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Speaker 2: going to see who's faster. Yeah, and he that dude

451
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Speaker 2: is very excited for his rookie debut. Uh So I

452
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Speaker 2: think Wiggins versus Xavier Worthy, you know, we it remains

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Speaker 2: to me seeing how many snaps. What's the snap count

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Speaker 2: look like for Nate Wiggins, you know, because you have

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Speaker 2: Marlon Humpher, you have Brandon Stevens, two premier corners out there.

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Speaker 2: What does it look like for Xavier Worthy or for

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Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins. I'm interested to see that.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think that like I think that Brandon and Marlin

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Speaker 4: are going to play basically every snap. I think you

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Speaker 4: start talking about the third cornerback position and you have

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Speaker 4: kind of an embarrassment of riches there with Kyle Hamilton's

463
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Speaker 4: ability to come play in that spot. You can have

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Speaker 4: our Darius Washington go.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if the if the Chiefs go

466
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Speaker 2: three wide and they put Xavier Worthy in the slot.

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Speaker 2: I'll take Nate Wiggins lineup opposite that guy as opposed

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Speaker 2: to Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure, I mean I mean his speed. But it

470
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Speaker 4: can also be Marlon Humphrey in that spot. You could play,

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Speaker 4: you could play zone. Marcus Williams covers a lot of

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Speaker 4: a lot of territory over the top, takes a lot

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Speaker 4: away there. I mean, Jalen armor Davis is a guy

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Speaker 4: that I thought had a really good summer and I

475
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Speaker 4: think that he's been a really good player. The other one, too,

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Speaker 4: like I feel like we haven't mentioned really much at all,

477
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Speaker 4: is Eddie Jackson. Like Eddie Jackson is a veteran Pro

478
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Speaker 4: Bowl player who the Ravens signed. You know, they use

479
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Speaker 4: one of they don't have much cap space, but they

480
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Speaker 4: went and signed him this summer because they wanted to

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Speaker 4: add some depth there.

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Speaker 2: And so I think they wanted that free that kind

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Speaker 2: of well strong safety, free safety whatever. When Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 2: goes in, please nickel, right.

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Speaker 4: So so I'm just saying they he's going to be

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Speaker 4: on the field a lot as well. So I don't

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Speaker 4: all that makes me wonder how many snaps we're going

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Speaker 4: to see from Nate Wiggins. But yeah, however many it'll

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Speaker 4: be I'm sure it'll be exciting for those two guys

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Speaker 4: do end up matchup against you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The other new thing for the Kansas City Chiefs is

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Speaker 2: at left tackle, where their second round rookie draft pick

494
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Speaker 2: Kingsley swamatea guy we talked about a lot pre draft,

495
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Speaker 2: is at the top of their depth chart and expected

496
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Speaker 2: to be the starter week one. And so you know,

497
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Speaker 2: we've talked at nauseum about the Ravens offensive line and

498
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Speaker 2: the inexperience and whatnot. Well, they got a rookie left

499
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Speaker 2: tackle right now and a guy that the Ravens picked,

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Speaker 2: Roger rosigartin over him. Chiefs came up and picked Kingsley

501
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Speaker 2: right after Baltimore. And so, welcome to the big leagues. Kingsley.

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Speaker 2: You're going up against a Dafejoway, who is one of

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Speaker 2: the Ravens breakout defensive candidates who we've been raving about

504
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Speaker 2: all off season, is being you know, nearly unblockable. So

505
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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna find out and that that's gonna

506
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Speaker 2: be a really intriguing matchup. Kingsley, uh, just this week

507
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Speaker 2: said he expects the Ravens to play bully ball uh

508
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Speaker 2: out there, and he's.

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Speaker 1: Got to be the bigger bully.

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Speaker 4: So you see, Well, the Kingsley Swamatia and Roger Rosegarden,

511
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Speaker 4: I think will always be connected because the Ravens they

512
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Speaker 4: went back to back. The Ravens are Rosegarden. Right before

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Speaker 4: there was you know, all that speculation that the Chiefs

514
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Speaker 4: were gonna take roseen Garden and the Ravens were talking

515
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Speaker 4: about making a trade and all this stuff, and they

516
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Speaker 4: but they thought they wanted rose Garden.

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Speaker 3: That was a guy that they wanted.

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Speaker 4: And so, uh, I just think it'll be interesting that,

519
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Speaker 4: you know, those two guys are always gonna be compared.

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Speaker 4: And I think that all the things we said about

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Speaker 4: the Ravens offensive line and wanting to test it and

522
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Speaker 4: wanting to find the weak link and all that stuff, like, Okay, well,

523
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Speaker 4: the Ravens have a pretty good defense. And I think

524
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Speaker 4: Zach Orr is gonna be a really good coordinator. And

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Speaker 4: this is his first game, and I think he's gonna say,

526
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Speaker 4: let's test the rookie. Ye, let's test the rookie left

527
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Speaker 4: tackle with a Dafe Oway or you know one of

528
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Speaker 4: the other pass rushers who you know, Oway has been

529
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Speaker 4: like you said, one of the stars of camp. Let's

530
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Speaker 4: see how he does in this opener.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be a very interesting matchup in this game.

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Speaker 2: All right, So now it's time for one bold prediction.

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Speaker 1: Garrett. You feel bold? Yeah, moderately bold, moderately Wow, that's

534
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Speaker 1: not very bold.

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Speaker 3: I do have a prediction.

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Speaker 1: Is there a moderately bold? The definition of bold?

537
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Speaker 3: Yeah, medium, rare, you know what.

538
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Speaker 1: All right, So what's your bold prediction?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how bold this is, but I do

541
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Speaker 3: think I feel good about this happening.

542
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Speaker 4: In our prediction podcast that we did earlier this week,

543
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Speaker 4: I said that I thought that Kyle Hamilton had a

544
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Speaker 4: really good chance to be considered the NFL's Defensive Player

545
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Speaker 4: of the Year, and in order for that to happen,

546
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Speaker 4: you got to make some splash plays and big moments.

547
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Speaker 3: He did that last year.

548
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Speaker 4: I think he starts off his Defensive Player of the

549
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Speaker 4: Year campaign with a pick against Patrick Mahomes in the

550
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Speaker 4: season opener.

551
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Speaker 1: A whole world watching that, basically.

552
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Speaker 4: Everybody says, man, Kyle Hamilton, They're gonna be talking about

553
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Speaker 4: this during the game. They're gonna be circling him, showing

554
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Speaker 4: all the places that he lines up on the defense,

555
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Speaker 4: he come up with the pick, and after that game

556
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 4: people are gonna be saying, Kyle Hamilton watch out for

557
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Speaker 4: him a defensive player of the Year.

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Speaker 1: All right.

559
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Speaker 2: I like that they tried to throw that bomb to

560
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Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy that we're talking about.

561
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Speaker 4: Whatever it is, I mean, over the top or hey,

562
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Speaker 4: maybe maybe he pulls off a play like he did

563
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Speaker 4: against the Browns last year where he Kno, bats it

564
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Speaker 4: up with the line of scrimmage, catches his own pass,

565
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Speaker 4: and then runs it back for six.

566
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Speaker 1: That's even better.

567
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Speaker 3: I'm okay with that too.

568
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Speaker 4: I don't care if it happens the line of scrimmage

569
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Speaker 4: or deep, but he gets As long as he gets

570
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Speaker 4: one of those picks, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think I'll be okay with it.

572
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, my bold.

573
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Speaker 2: Prediction is that Derrick Henry is going to run for

574
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Speaker 2: over one hundred yards. I can see that as well.

575
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Speaker 2: It's not super bowld.

576
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Speaker 3: That bold here on our predictions.

577
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Speaker 2: He's averaged more than one hundred yards against the Chiefs

578
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Speaker 2: over his career. So, like you said, I think he's

579
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Speaker 2: gonna get more than six carries. Yes, I think he

580
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 2: could get a heavy dose. I mean this Chief's run

581
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 2: defense was their weakness down the stretch last year and

582
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Speaker 2: for much of last season, and they don't haven't really

583
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: changed a lot personnel wise in that regard. I think

584
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 2: this Ravens team has a point to prove. Wouldn't surprise

585
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: me if we saw a good old heavy dose of

586
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: pat Ricard, you know. Let also, you have a young

587
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: offensive line that we talked about first game out. What's

588
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: a good way to protect the old line? Run the football,

589
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: Run the football, don't put them in a tough situation

590
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: on the road. Communication, lots of the third and longs,

591
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Speaker 2: trying to protect Lamar Jackson.

592
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Speaker 1: Run the football, stay ahead of the chains. Get Derrick Henry,

593
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Speaker 1: just leaning.

594
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Speaker 3: On them, just time after time.

595
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Speaker 1: Just yeah.

596
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Derrick Henry goes for over one

597
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Speaker 2: hundred and he still definitely gonna find pay dirt.

598
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Speaker 1: There's at least one Tuddy.

599
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: In there, all right. I think I think that's pretty

600
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Speaker 3: good prediction.

601
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Speaker 2: All right, So, Garrett, this game couldn't get any better

602
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Speaker 2: for a Week one And you know what I see

603
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: coming down the pike?

604
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Speaker 1: What's that I see?

605
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 2: When week one, first big win in the new studio,

606
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Speaker 2: things are falling off the walls.

607
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Speaker 1: Let's gonna be big yet real big. Let's go