Speaker 1: Quest Loves Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic
Speaker 1: episode was produced by the team at Pandora.
Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, This is Sugar Steve. For this week's
Speaker 2: classic episode of Questlow Supreme, we revisit a conversation from
Speaker 2: March twenty four, twenty seventeen with the one and only
Speaker 2: Jerrod Carmichael. He talks about the inspiration for some of
Speaker 2: his best jokes, North Carolina, eateries, and much more. Episode
Speaker 2: number thirty three from the QLs archives.
Speaker 3: And joy.
Speaker 4: Suprema Su Su Supremo, roll call Suprema su Supremo. Roll
Speaker 4: call Suprema Su su Supremo. Roll call Suprema Su su Supremo.
Speaker 3: Ro Gerada is here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel doom Yeah because Quest Love's officially yeah,
Speaker 1: the fourth funniest guy in the road supream something Supremo.
Speaker 3: Roll call Suppreamer.
Speaker 5: My name is Fante, Yeah, my voice is ethereal Yeah. Nigga,
Speaker 5: You'll never have serious.
Speaker 3: Supremo Rod. My name is Sugar. What's up your Rod?
Speaker 3: When you're ready to kill us? Yeah, just give us
Speaker 3: a nod.
Speaker 4: Supremer some some up bring on roll call Supreamer something.
Speaker 5: Road Bill wants to know when am I gonna see Yeah,
Speaker 5: the Carmichael's Show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Season three, Supremer Supremer Road Called Supremo, roll call
Speaker 3: paid Bill. Yeah. And this girl I'm with Yeah, told
Speaker 3: me to watch Rod. Yeah, because he's the ship.
Speaker 4: Come Supremo son Son Supremo Role Suprema Suprema.
Speaker 3: Role here Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what do you think I'm funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I have so much fear.
Speaker 7: Sure roll This is Gerrard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I drinking green tea. Yeah, you call Rick rub Yeah,
Speaker 3: ended up with me, right, Supremo roll Call.
Speaker 8: Suprema son Son, Suprema roll Call, Suprema son Son Supremo
Speaker 8: roll Call, Supremo Suprema Roll.
Speaker 3: We all said no Russian you.
Speaker 7: Bar.
Speaker 6: It wasn't about the statement, It was about the sequel.
Speaker 3: It was the stent. It was the fact that we
Speaker 3: all like we had a meeting with ourselves. Fine, we're
Speaker 3: going to say no.
Speaker 6: I'm a beast somebody.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Ladies and gentlemen, Our next guest has been
Speaker 1: my favorite hip hop producer for the last.
Speaker 3: Five years. His early work with the Beastie Boys and
Speaker 3: run DMC. Yes, before he was alive. Yeah, got a
Speaker 3: lay on like shoes ball y.
Speaker 1: I already have the feeling, ladies and gentlemen, that this
Speaker 1: might be my favorite episode of my short lived radio show,
Speaker 1: simply because I'm such a fan of our guest he
Speaker 1: was kind enough to come at the drop of a dime. Wait, dude,
Speaker 1: dimes still exists in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 7: People people actually drop them more than of a super
Speaker 7: rich people ask those kind of questions, what is that?
Speaker 3: That was a very.
Speaker 7: I will say this. I was poor, poor long time,
Speaker 7: and I'm never like, oh, let me get that dime.
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's obviously you with the coin
Speaker 6: star like, I gotta.
Speaker 3: Go to coin starre when we get back to New York. No,
Speaker 3: you ain't trolling me, because we all know what's happening next.
Speaker 3: I like times, believe me. Yeah, we know, bags of
Speaker 3: bags and bags. They don't make you.
Speaker 6: Started twenty and keep going.
Speaker 3: I meant actual dimes. You know what's crazy? It worked.
Speaker 7: I thought you're talking about girls like You're like, I
Speaker 7: like dimes.
Speaker 3: Like, and I was like, yeah, they're the smallest. You're right,
Speaker 3: this is the greatest episode exactly, all right.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get my introduction. Ladies, John, please welcome
Speaker 1: my favorite Carmichael.
Speaker 3: Yes, you guys, I'm happy to be here. Two Carolina
Speaker 3: boys in here today. Got yo, yes, yes, yeah, accent
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 1: I also want to thank uh well I am for
Speaker 1: being very gracious uh for letting us use his his
Speaker 1: facilities to record this shot the bathroom.
Speaker 3: But yeah, can we.
Speaker 7: Talk about the bathroom. I haven't been to the bathroom.
Speaker 7: I've come here once or twice before. I haven't used
Speaker 7: the bad I can't believe I missed out.
Speaker 3: On without using that from the future. It's life goals.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's amazing. What I didn't know is that
Speaker 1: when you're finished the toilet, the light comes on in
Speaker 1: the toilet, like a glowing light comes from the bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's self cleans Yeah. And and the air sucks
Speaker 1: out the funk.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, it's a glowing light. If you don't have
Speaker 3: to ship, figure out a way to ship.
Speaker 7: Away from I think that's I think that's cool if
Speaker 7: you're like under seventy and like, because like over a
Speaker 7: certain age, like all your ship's become like like a study.
Speaker 3: And you're doing it.
Speaker 7: I feel like all our grandparents have to look and
Speaker 7: make sure and they just seeing a light they will
Speaker 7: think it's God called me.
Speaker 5: I'm scared because I don't know that the light was coming.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's it's it's it's amazing to see that.
Speaker 3: Not to mention it.
Speaker 1: The air thing is so necessary because I don't know
Speaker 1: about But if you've ever been in a situation where
Speaker 1: like usually if I'm in a hotel room or home,
Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm in a hotel room, I'm
Speaker 1: instantly trying to make friends with the security guard so
Speaker 1: that I can hit the gym real quick. Like I
Speaker 1: never go in my room because you know that that
Speaker 1: might be a deal breaker with her. Like and the
Speaker 1: noise and all that stuff, like it comes with its
Speaker 1: own white noise.
Speaker 3: In the water, the water, everything is the best episode.
Speaker 3: You can't be waste water like that. I will bring
Speaker 3: a blender in radio. I'll take a radio in the bathroom. Noise, man, no,
Speaker 3: So welcome to How are you today? Man?
Speaker 7: I believe this is how most episodes of Meet the
Speaker 7: Press Ulso, So what were you.
Speaker 3: Doing today before I called and interrupted your cycle? I
Speaker 3: canceled a couple of things. You know me?
Speaker 7: Of course, of course, you know when you get the
Speaker 7: text from you, you you show up i'd say that
Speaker 7: I also missed the missed the picnic. I thought it
Speaker 7: was this perfect Wait was this was this my guilt card?
Speaker 7: Now let me tell you it wasn't.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing. I was genuinely excited to do it.
Speaker 7: The second thought was, oh, yeah, I missed the picnic.
Speaker 3: This is great.
Speaker 7: This is a great thing. Where I get to I'm
Speaker 7: still going to get you for the next picnic, though,
Speaker 7: I'm excited for it. But this is such a I
Speaker 7: just like missed out on some editing. I'll work on Sunday.
Speaker 3: It works. You're what are you editing right now?
Speaker 7: The TV show? IM work and we're about wrap for
Speaker 7: the season, so like we're just editing. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 7: just doing that and uh and then that's it. I'll
Speaker 7: do some stand up probably tonight.
Speaker 3: So officially season three is ago, season.
Speaker 7: Threes ago, May thirty first. Ah, yeah, yeah, so I'm excited.
Speaker 3: This season season one on Netflix on Netflix.
Speaker 7: Now, Yeah, this season, I'm I'm like really excited. You
Speaker 7: ever like like work on something and you're like, I
Speaker 7: know I said I was excited for the other ship,
Speaker 7: but I know I mean it this time, Like this time,
Speaker 7: I'm really this season is a sophomore album. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 7: like really because it's like crazy. The first episode we taped,
Speaker 7: my grandmother commits suicide. She kills herself on camera. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be a fu text the pills and dies on
Speaker 7: It's a crazy thing that happens. I'm spoiling it. That's
Speaker 7: how excited I invite, Like Marla Gibbs plays my grandma,
Speaker 7: and and and it's a it's that was the first
Speaker 7: episode we take.
Speaker 1: I'm excited and figure out, like what taboo subjects can
Speaker 1: we cover and just revel in it.
Speaker 7: Any any conversation I have or any like subject that
Speaker 7: comes up that wakes me up, you know, like you
Speaker 7: the things that you talk about throughout the day to
Speaker 7: actually wake you up that you're like the conversations you engaged.
Speaker 7: And that's the ones that we try and make episodes
Speaker 7: out of because it's it's like boring otherwise, you know.
Speaker 7: But like and assistant suicide was the thing we were
Speaker 7: talking about, and it was like, oh, well this, yeah,
Speaker 7: this will be a fun episode to do. Is she
Speaker 7: playing Loretta Devine's mother or David? Yeah, yeah, so she
Speaker 7: did a brief appearance in our first season. It's a blur.
Speaker 7: I think our second I don't. It was all the
Speaker 7: first one with six episodes. It's all a blurnment. But
Speaker 7: and now she's back, and how did you She was
Speaker 7: so excited? She was excited. I mean, I think people
Speaker 7: get excited if the material is like you know, it
Speaker 7: can spark some type of conversation or it is edgy
Speaker 7: or like you know, excited to do.
Speaker 3: So she was all for what is the writer's room
Speaker 3: like for y'all show? Like who's all in it? What
Speaker 3: does that look like?
Speaker 7: It's a lot of arguing and yelling at each other
Speaker 7: and having fun and disagreeing and jokes. It's it's a
Speaker 7: fun environment. We I'll bring a lot of concepts like
Speaker 7: before the season starts, and we'll just try and break
Speaker 7: stories around them and find perspective and uh and argue
Speaker 7: a lot.
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, how deep are their arguments?
Speaker 1: One time I spent I went on a set of
Speaker 1: a comedy show to watch it taping, and during the breaks,
Speaker 1: the show runner it was something out of like a
Speaker 1: new edition dance step like the second May said and cut.
Speaker 1: Suddenly the show runner ran to the spotlight and then
Speaker 1: his fifteen writers like surrounded him in a circle.
Speaker 3: It was like Harlem glos, all right, what you got? No, No,
Speaker 3: that sucks. That sucks. No, that sucks. No, that's And.
Speaker 1: I was looking after I saw the rhythm of the
Speaker 1: third time go round. I was watching the ones that
Speaker 1: got dismissed. Nope, not funny, not funny, and each time around,
Speaker 1: like their body language just became like more.
Speaker 3: Defeated. How do you how do you encourage the best
Speaker 3: out of your writers?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like the writing on the show and
Speaker 1: acting as top notch, which obviously I could tell that, Oh,
Speaker 1: everyone loves their jobs and they're excited and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: How do you get the best out of your writers
Speaker 1: without deflating them.
Speaker 7: I think it's like, if you're being honest with me,
Speaker 7: I think that's your best. It always looks for truth first.
Speaker 7: So like, the thing that I care about the most
Speaker 7: is that they are bringing honest perspective to something.
Speaker 3: A joke is just.
Speaker 7: You know, this tension you create that you just let
Speaker 7: the air out. So sometimes people yell something that's not
Speaker 7: really even a joke. They're really angry, and it works,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 7: I guess I'm saying using all the most you want
Speaker 7: to keep morale high and you want people to feel
Speaker 7: like their voice is being heard. But the most important
Speaker 7: thing that you can bring is truth and that that
Speaker 7: comes in any shade of emotion. So we just try
Speaker 7: and make everybody feel included, you know, and we hear.
Speaker 7: But it's also a tough thing, you know, certain thing
Speaker 7: you have to go with your guts.
Speaker 3: Ys, do you trust yourself to have the final say though?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so dangerous. Yeah, but it's fun. It's because
Speaker 7: anything good comes from a specific vision. Everything needs to
Speaker 7: like so it always has to be through a filter
Speaker 7: of some sort.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Things are a collaborative process, but it has to be uh,
Speaker 7: something that you know, usually one or two people kind
Speaker 7: of agree on that has to be the guard for
Speaker 7: the entire process. And so a lot of things, I
Speaker 7: do trust it because I just trust like gut instinct.
Speaker 7: It's like, no, I feel this, and even if it's
Speaker 7: not the funniest joke, I feel like it fits. It's
Speaker 7: kind of like you know, jazz if you will, where
Speaker 7: it's just it's kind of off this feeling as it
Speaker 7: fits into a structure, and so I just trust that
Speaker 7: more than anything.
Speaker 3: So Loretta by the way I.
Speaker 1: Think of all the projects that I've seen her do,
Speaker 1: this is like one of my I feel like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm jumping the gun. I feel like
Speaker 1: it should actually garner like Ammy attention.
Speaker 3: Like how she's she is incredible. It's so relatable to
Speaker 3: me watch the show yet, Yeah she is. Yeah earlier,
Speaker 3: I said earlier while you were on your computer.
Speaker 7: She's like, I'm so incredible. I was just talking about, like,
Speaker 7: I'm really lucky to have the cast that I have.
Speaker 8: It.
Speaker 7: Really it gives me chills thinking about like how great
Speaker 7: everyone is, Like everyone's so naturally funny and gifted. And
Speaker 7: I mean they make it easy really because you just, like,
Speaker 7: you know, writing stuff. A lot of times I just
Speaker 7: do impressions of them and like I try and do
Speaker 7: my best Loretta Divine voice, if my David Allen Greer,
Speaker 7: my Little Rell, and and they make it easy because
Speaker 7: you can see them. They're such full people in full characters.
Speaker 1: Well now that uh, little Rell and Tiff will probably
Speaker 1: have Little Rell is already having a great yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm certain that Tiff will have Tiffany A Dish will
Speaker 1: have an equally awesome summer once her movie.
Speaker 7: A Girl Trip comes out out soon or Juliable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so are there those characters are going to be
Speaker 3: more fleshed out and developed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we get into, uh, you know, a lot of
Speaker 7: their backstory or things that they're going through in their
Speaker 7: lives this season because everyone's so comfortable in the character
Speaker 7: and they even let us borrow things from their lives
Speaker 7: or or you know, to use for the show.
Speaker 3: So definitely we go deeper with with everybody. Cool.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm excited, really excited about it. I know it
Speaker 7: sounds like the bullshit everybody says about a thing within.
Speaker 1: I think you're genuinely excited because most comedians I know
Speaker 1: are off camera they're very cynical, and.
Speaker 3: Like you seem unusually and genuinely happy. Yeah. I'm like,
Speaker 3: your bills are paid.
Speaker 7: Yeah, well yeah, but I'm like, this is gonna well
Speaker 7: I hear the bills are paid, then, oh so still
Speaker 7: fly by big time.
Speaker 3: It starts playing myself.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted that to talk to you about the
Speaker 5: casting for the show and how long that took, because
Speaker 5: particularly with David Allen Greer, like he was a guy
Speaker 5: that was normally known for kind of playing the uptight,
Speaker 5: kind of preppy guy but he's total on this show
Speaker 5: and it's killing it.
Speaker 3: What was that? Like, how involved were you in the
Speaker 3: casting of the show.
Speaker 7: Very I mean it was all chemistry and just having
Speaker 7: him walk in and Loretta walk in, You're immediately like,
Speaker 7: I can't believe that even here, you know, I'm just
Speaker 7: so excited that here. And then it was an immediate Yeah,
Speaker 7: it was like David Loretta, it was immediate. Yes, I
Speaker 7: mean they were just great and they brought the material
Speaker 7: to life and they made you want to write more.
Speaker 3: David is good.
Speaker 7: David plays his character I think really well, because I
Speaker 7: mean that's David at his core. David is just a
Speaker 7: nigga's to code with us when the camera's on.
Speaker 3: But yeah, here's the thing.
Speaker 7: David is just, first of all, one of the most articulate,
Speaker 7: well like well yellow drama school, like just as a person,
Speaker 7: like so cultured. But David at his court this is
Speaker 7: I mean, this is David himself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so David.
Speaker 7: You don't even mind me saying that, Like, David is
Speaker 7: a nigga.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 5: A couple of years now, guys, tell me about because
Speaker 5: you're from you're from Winston Salem, Yes, and so I
Speaker 5: grew up in Greensboro. That's my hometown, but my family
Speaker 5: is actually Winston too, so uh really yeah, my family,
Speaker 5: my grandmother's this is my great aunt. She lived in
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, she's around the corner from Carver. Wow,
Speaker 5: I can't remember the.
Speaker 3: Name of neighborhood. I'm totally butchering it. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: blanking too. Yeah, but it was, it was. It was
Speaker 3: very Winston.
Speaker 5: A lot of times in your comedy you talk about,
Speaker 5: you know, your beginnings and like how you know, coming
Speaker 5: up poor and you know all that.
Speaker 3: Tell me about that, because we it was the best.
Speaker 3: Tell you what it was. It was.
Speaker 7: It was funny, it was a good it was It
Speaker 7: was a good environment in the sense that it was
Speaker 7: filled with you know, it was interesting. What did your
Speaker 7: folks do? My dad truck driver. My mom was a
Speaker 7: secretary at Brenner's Children's Hospital.
Speaker 3: Ah, my aunt she worked at Baptists. Everybody worked, everybody works, everybody.
Speaker 3: My grandfather he used to work at rentals. I thought
Speaker 3: you were going to say you were born there. No, no, no,
Speaker 3: I wasn't born there my grandma.
Speaker 7: But yeah, everybody you know, and and it's this community
Speaker 7: that's you know it's it's small but not Yeah, I
Speaker 7: realized I didn't realize it's a decent sized city once
Speaker 7: the Salem was in Greensboro or decent sized cities. And
Speaker 7: it's like, as I learned, you know, the more I
Speaker 7: meet people, such a similar experience to anybody grew up
Speaker 7: in any hood. You know, like it's like so many
Speaker 7: of the same elements there. It's a you know, just
Speaker 7: a lot of people working class, trying, a lot of
Speaker 7: single mom homes. Uh, people that wanted New Jordan's.
Speaker 3: It was just like Dan's is how how it's how
Speaker 3: Nike ads should look. I always see.
Speaker 7: People like running up of Mountain. I'm just like, nah,
Speaker 7: the core of that is I just do it, just
Speaker 7: fuck it, yeah, outside of a store.
Speaker 6: So were you always the funny kid?
Speaker 7: It started like eighth grade, I was, I used uh
Speaker 7: humor to not do homework, you know, that type of thing.
Speaker 7: But but starting around then, I was, I was always
Speaker 7: like writing and creating stuff and writing plays and and
Speaker 7: filming things.
Speaker 5: And from just writing, you know, your like your creative
Speaker 5: writing and stuff like that. How did you take that
Speaker 5: to the stage, Like when was you when did you
Speaker 5: actually start doing stand up?
Speaker 7: I started doing stand up here in LA. I didn't start, like,
Speaker 7: I didn't want to start in North Carolina. Uh well,
Speaker 7: but because why Well for me, I'm I'm really competitive,
Speaker 7: and I wanted to be around people that truly their
Speaker 7: life to it. Yeah, well the best and people that
Speaker 7: were like serious about it. Yeah that's all that they do.
Speaker 7: And and a lot of times in cities outside of
Speaker 7: LA and New York would stand up. People are doing it,
Speaker 7: but it's kind of a thing that people do, and
Speaker 7: it's too easy, too easily a hobby, even if people's
Speaker 7: part and passion was into it, like just having the
Speaker 7: time to do it, like it was kind of this hobby.
Speaker 7: And I wanted to move in to where people were
Speaker 7: just you know, ruthlessly ambitious and trying to do it,
Speaker 7: and like that's an energy that I film more comfortable around.
Speaker 1: So you didn't want to be the big shark in
Speaker 1: a small pine for a little bit in North Carolina.
Speaker 7: No, because that hurts people, that that gives you this
Speaker 7: false sense of of you know, yeah, especially the way
Speaker 7: if it were if it were music, I just say
Speaker 7: that I was gonna say no. But music is different
Speaker 7: because music is such a it's an immediate thing. I
Speaker 7: if I created stand up like my friend Bo Burnham
Speaker 7: did this, like he got famous doing stand up from
Speaker 7: his home because it was a thing that you record
Speaker 7: and you release. He did videos. He was like YouTube
Speaker 7: and like use the internet for that and music kind of.
Speaker 7: Prince can be at Paisley Park if you're in New York.
Speaker 7: It doesn't it doesn't matter. It's not like you your
Speaker 7: first your first experience with Prince for most people isn't
Speaker 7: a live performance. You know, like this this live show.
Speaker 7: It's a skill that he developed. But if it is
Speaker 7: just travels differently. Stand up comedy a lot of times
Speaker 7: people discover you in a club, especially earlier on before
Speaker 7: anyone's trying to record anything that you do. You're you're
Speaker 7: in a club, and and that's where you hone your skills.
Speaker 7: So it made more sense to be around people who
Speaker 7: are who are doing it like that. If I were
Speaker 7: a musician, then I may have I would. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 7: you know from North Carolina, you know, looking at what
Speaker 7: Little Brother did, look with Prince from where he's from. Uh,
Speaker 7: But stand up just travels a little bit differently. With
Speaker 7: that said, there are people who have been in the
Speaker 7: hometown and gotten their material out. But I just think
Speaker 7: it's such a competitive thing initially that you just got
Speaker 7: to be around it.
Speaker 3: So why not New York instead of LA? Because I
Speaker 3: also two things.
Speaker 7: I had an interest in film and television from the beginning,
Speaker 7: and it's a thing that I wanted to learn and
Speaker 7: be around, and I was excited to jump into that. Also,
Speaker 7: I have like an aunt who lives in New York,
Speaker 7: and I have friends that were in New York. And
Speaker 7: I had a place to stay and security. Yeah, I
Speaker 7: didn't want a security blank it just LA. I'd never
Speaker 7: really here and I didn't know anyone.
Speaker 6: So how did you afford that?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 7: How do you say, you're a little bit of working
Speaker 7: at a shoe store, worked the finish line. You know,
Speaker 7: you're no no back back. Yeah, by the grace of God,
Speaker 7: I have. I didn't have a regular job in LA.
Speaker 7: I moved and tried to have an apartment for a
Speaker 7: little bit, slept on couches. After that, you know, the
Speaker 7: the typical artists grind of like just trying to figure
Speaker 7: it out.
Speaker 3: And then you were to finish line in the mall
Speaker 3: and Haines Mall. I was there for years.
Speaker 7: I was there, and then I graduated high school, and
Speaker 7: that really highlights how uncool it was to be there.
Speaker 7: Like I wasn't going to college and I was just
Speaker 7: there and people would come home for like breaking like
Speaker 7: nig you're still here, yeah that guy, that guy.
Speaker 3: Briefly, this is.
Speaker 9: Possible because just for the people who are listening, who
Speaker 9: are like, you know, one day I want to move
Speaker 9: to l A and do big things like you can
Speaker 9: save a couple of finish line checks, you know.
Speaker 7: And truthfully, when I moved to LA I was working
Speaker 7: two thousand and eight, I was working there. This all
Speaker 7: happened in a matter of like two months. I was
Speaker 7: thinking about, like what I wanted to do with my life.
Speaker 7: A friend of mine took me to comedy club. I'd
Speaker 7: only been to one comedy club before my life. It
Speaker 7: was at the Cellar in New York. My family visited.
Speaker 7: I saw Dave Hotel performed. It was the first time.
Speaker 7: My second time at a comedy club was in two
Speaker 7: thousand and eight. A friend took me. I wanted to
Speaker 7: do it. Somebody came in to finish line.
Speaker 3: It was this guy.
Speaker 7: He said, he was making small talk. I asked what
Speaker 7: he did. He said he was an actor who lived
Speaker 7: in LA I was like, man, that sounds cool. I
Speaker 7: want to move there. He was like, just move and
Speaker 7: I was like oh, and he told me like, go
Speaker 7: to Craigslist of Westside rentals, final place and move.
Speaker 3: And then I did.
Speaker 7: I remember like printing the receipt paper, wrote those things down,
Speaker 7: and I was here in August and that was.
Speaker 3: You landed here.
Speaker 7: Then decided and then and yeah, well I had I
Speaker 7: found a place on Craigslist. They didn't have photo. I
Speaker 7: had a place that I was going to. It was
Speaker 7: like a one bedroom apartment. Three other people were in there.
Speaker 7: I slept on a love seat, you know, like and
Speaker 7: I was happy. Yeah, I was really happy. And then
Speaker 7: I just started comedy as soon as I got here.
Speaker 6: And how long was that life?
Speaker 3: I mean a few years for me.
Speaker 7: For me, things happened kind of quickly, you know when
Speaker 7: you look at a lot of comedian stories, like you know,
Speaker 7: some guys ten years or fifteen years of trying to
Speaker 7: figure it out. But for me, after about a year,
Speaker 7: I you know, it kind of clicked for me. And
Speaker 7: then by two years in I was kind of on
Speaker 7: a you know, under the uh. I had the attention
Speaker 7: of industry or whatever whatever stuff leads none of it matters,
Speaker 7: but it does. It doesn't, but it does. I hate
Speaker 7: it and I love it to be the name of
Speaker 7: the memoir. I hate it, but I love it.
Speaker 3: What spots were you working out of when you first
Speaker 3: came to l A improv laugh Factory?
Speaker 7: All the clubs, a lot of back rooms, bars, surprise shows,
Speaker 7: people that thought they would come and watch a game.
Speaker 3: So who's the first person? I mean, I almost imagine that.
Speaker 1: It's almost like entering comedies could be the equivalent of
Speaker 1: like your first day in jail, Like who's the who's
Speaker 1: the first person? That you kind of had to be
Speaker 1: friends to sort of get the rules?
Speaker 7: And my friend still my best friend to the stage,
Speaker 7: Jamar Neighbors.
Speaker 3: Yo, we're going to talk about him in a second.
Speaker 7: Love him first, first person. Uh, the only piece of
Speaker 7: advice I've taken was from him, the only so he
Speaker 7: was established first, he had been He's from l A Okay,
Speaker 7: and so he was familiar with it and he was
Speaker 7: still coming up and still you know, figuring it out.
Speaker 7: But I did my first open mic at the Comedy
Speaker 7: Store and I got off stage and he was like,
Speaker 7: it's like, hey, man, you're funny. You just slow down
Speaker 7: a little bit and you Yeah he said that, but
Speaker 7: you were first set man, first set. It was just
Speaker 7: like a it was like twister doing commons.
Speaker 3: No one like you. I was going to say, like
Speaker 3: you're your level of silence and pacing is.
Speaker 5: Really on the last special like that ship was that
Speaker 5: was balls? Nah for real, Like that was yeah, it
Speaker 5: was dope.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So you don't feel a certain way like if you happened,
Speaker 1: if you say it punchline and it might go with
Speaker 1: an audience member ahead or whatever, you'll just let it do.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's somebody like you. You thought it for a
Speaker 7: reason and you you crafted and say it a certain
Speaker 7: way for a reason. And it's like, especially if i'm taping,
Speaker 7: you know, like taping a special, it's not just even
Speaker 7: about the room. It's going into people's homes, and it's
Speaker 7: like you record it for that experience, you know, And
Speaker 7: that's what I make specials for. And but on stage,
Speaker 7: you know, if any live show, if a thing goes over,
Speaker 7: there's something for you. And that was Sometimes I'll write
Speaker 7: something or think something that I know, like in a
Speaker 7: room full one hundred people, ten are going to connect
Speaker 7: with us and I'm completely cool and.
Speaker 3: You're fine with that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because for that ten it's really going to mean something.
Speaker 7: As a whole, it'll be you know, it'll be something
Speaker 7: I ideally i'd say that, I'm sure a couple of
Speaker 7: people have left. I'm happy, but but there'll be something
Speaker 7: for everybody. You know, that's the goal. But you know
Speaker 7: some things aren't for everybody.
Speaker 3: The first show, the one you did delive at the store,
Speaker 3: how did that come about?
Speaker 1: And?
Speaker 5: Well, first, how long did it take for you to
Speaker 5: write that material? And how to Spike Leaguet involved?
Speaker 7: I I that was kind of material that I that
Speaker 7: was two thousand and fourteen. I think when we take that,
Speaker 7: it was just stuff over the years that I kind
Speaker 7: of picked up on and a lot of I say,
Speaker 7: over the years, there was some things from over the years,
Speaker 7: and then a lot of it was just new. The
Speaker 7: goal for that was to treat it as if it
Speaker 7: was just you coming to the comedy store on a
Speaker 7: Saturday night and just me kind of doing some old material,
Speaker 7: trying out new stuff, and just for it to be
Speaker 7: organic and natural. The voice that introduced me is this guy,
Speaker 7: Argus Hamilton, who always has nine to fifteen spot at
Speaker 7: the store, and he would bring me up, and so
Speaker 7: that's why I had to bring me up. Jamar did
Speaker 7: a set. You know, it was a very Yeah, it
Speaker 7: was like a very like. I wanted it to feel
Speaker 7: that vibe got spike because I wanted it to feel
Speaker 7: like a documentary. I don't usually like comedy specials, if
Speaker 7: I'm being honest, and so I wanted it to.
Speaker 3: Feel like explosions and your name in the back. It's
Speaker 3: just all this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all this unnecessary popping ones.
Speaker 3: The cut to six years later from now it's comedy
Speaker 3: spec No but your, but your. It has to fit you.
Speaker 7: I think the reason I like it is because things
Speaker 7: aren't necessarily personal, like like Chris Rock is a guy
Speaker 7: who the cr behind his head makes it. It fits
Speaker 7: with the vibe. That's how it's comedy looks and sounds
Speaker 7: comedians like. Not everybody's gonna fit that vibe. Like comedians
Speaker 7: have this tendency to go away from their own lane
Speaker 7: and try and fit into what they think comedy is.
Speaker 7: And and so that's why specials start looking alike and
Speaker 7: sounding alike, and and people's materials starts running in together
Speaker 7: because everyone tries to fit comedy instead of bringing comedy
Speaker 7: to them. So with the Love at the Store, was
Speaker 7: just important to have it personal. It was just a
Speaker 7: personal documentary. I go to my notebook, I try out
Speaker 7: new ship, I.
Speaker 5: Would say, So that last bit when you like the
Speaker 5: Illuminati garbage man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like that was that was really you just trying
Speaker 7: that out. I've done that before. I've done that before,
Speaker 7: but it was it was relatively new. I think, like new,
Speaker 7: I shouldn't the set, but it's like I've done that before.
Speaker 7: It's and it's really written in that notebook, and it's
Speaker 7: really because I just wanted it to feel that way.
Speaker 7: But I uh, I called Spike. I was sometimes I
Speaker 7: like I was trying to think of director. Sometimes I
Speaker 7: like to think I would put on there's a song
Speaker 7: from She's Got to Have It, Uh.
Speaker 3: Nola with vocals, Yeah, there's a girl.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was I was like playing that in
Speaker 7: my living room and I was like, oh, Spike, yeah
Speaker 7: every way, Yeah I was.
Speaker 3: And then I love Nola with vocals and singing on
Speaker 3: that one. That's him. Damn went deep with Ronn either King.
Speaker 1: Reference King, Okay, should your popularity ramp up.
Speaker 3: One hundredfold? Where you know you land three or four
Speaker 3: big movies or whatever.
Speaker 1: All right, say if you get Murphy ezed, Yeah, would
Speaker 1: you think that your level of comedy could translate to.
Speaker 3: Stadiums?
Speaker 1: And because you're such an intimate former that you know,
Speaker 1: is that even a dream like, Hey, I like to
Speaker 1: sell out the Forum or you.
Speaker 7: Know, the only way I would do it is if
Speaker 7: I two things. If I felt like the material somehow
Speaker 7: warranted that type of venue. You know, at that point
Speaker 7: you always want to stay open as an artist. I
Speaker 7: don't know exactly how change evolved, so staying open to that,
Speaker 7: or if I found a way to bring the performance
Speaker 7: or or some type of show to that arena where
Speaker 7: I could truly feel it, not just for the sake
Speaker 7: of seats, because comedy over anything over like three or
Speaker 7: four thousand people. Really, even the just sound, the way
Speaker 7: a laugh travels, it's like it's not everyone doing something
Speaker 7: in Unison, it's it's it has to travel.
Speaker 5: And Christy said that same thing, Chris. When Chris he
Speaker 5: played Deep Act a couple of months ago. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: he I was talking to his stage guy. He said,
Speaker 5: he said the exact same thing. He said, you know,
Speaker 5: you may do a joke and like the person in
Speaker 5: the back may laugh first, and then it takes time.
Speaker 5: Your timing is way different because you actually have to
Speaker 5: give it time to travel.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but you have to anytime. I mean I've done,
Speaker 7: you know, theaters of four thousand seas. It just doesn't
Speaker 7: the rhythm. You have to find a rhythm for that,
Speaker 7: you know. And so if I did it consistently and
Speaker 7: got used to it and found a way to bring
Speaker 7: a show to that, then yeah, but not just for
Speaker 7: the sake of filling seats.
Speaker 3: I mean I care about the show first.
Speaker 1: So as a comedian, how do you feel about I know,
Speaker 1: one subject that I often hear, especially at the Tonight
Speaker 1: show when comedians come on ish the idea of like
Speaker 1: politically correct comedy and how we're in kind of a
Speaker 1: new place right now.
Speaker 3: Where Twitter has ruined everything.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, we're just in a more politically correct,
Speaker 1: more sensitive place right now. Like in other words, I've
Speaker 1: seen many a think piece on Day on Dave's Netflix
Speaker 1: specials that didn't hit home with a lot of people
Speaker 1: because of the way that times are now.
Speaker 3: Like even if you watch Eddie Murphy's Raw, which Delirious
Speaker 3: is like the first delirious.
Speaker 1: Right like that couldn't fly now in twenty seventeen. How
Speaker 1: but I know you especially with Jamar. Have you heard
Speaker 1: America's Nigga?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 3: I have, all right, so Uh Brennan.
Speaker 1: Neil Brennan hit me up like one in the morning
Speaker 1: and was like, yo, I need you to go to
Speaker 1: this website and download this record and listen. And if
Speaker 1: you know Neil the way that I know Neil, like
Speaker 1: there's Neil and Chris Rock are probably like the two
Speaker 1: uh figures in my life that are a constant maybe
Speaker 1: Fonte and Bill as well like that are not easily impressed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to actually be good for them to you know,
Speaker 1: And yeah, Chris is Chris is hard to please.
Speaker 3: Neil's even harder to please Neil. I don't bring something
Speaker 3: to Neil unless I'm like I want to beat good.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like yeah. But the thing is
Speaker 3: when they say it's cold and you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: this is really gonna work. It means more than your
Speaker 3: father's approval.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you now, like yeah, like they're now like
Speaker 1: my new dad's Like yeah, it means more.
Speaker 7: I always go to them just to you know. Chris
Speaker 7: called me after the special and that meant more. I
Speaker 7: like told every I was like.
Speaker 3: Chris called me that means something he got after the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he called me. That totally means something. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when Neil told me, yo, listening to this record,
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh god, you haven't done this
Speaker 1: in like six years and six years ago it was
Speaker 1: like a rap record I forget about Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: heard it. I think that's the first time whenever like
Speaker 1: critics asked me like, oh, where's your favorite record, that's
Speaker 1: the first time a comedy record was ever really number
Speaker 1: one record? But so, god damn uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: Yes, but Jamar is just unapologetically himself, the most confident
Speaker 7: person I've ever met, the most like pure, you know,
Speaker 7: on stage, fearless and excited and doesn't give a fuck
Speaker 7: about anyone's like anything of their opinion. There what, it's
Speaker 7: just him, it's him, unapologetically him.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so where do you as far as where
Speaker 1: the times are leaning? Like, I know that comedy is
Speaker 1: supposed to be pain plus what's the formula it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be like pain? In reality it's tragedy plus time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tragedy yeah, yeah, So how do you do you still
Speaker 1: come from the school of Okay, I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: most taboo thing I can find and make it funny.
Speaker 7: No, that's that's genuinely never my thought. I never think
Speaker 7: about whether or not a thing is taboo or it
Speaker 7: really is if it excites me, if it's something that
Speaker 7: I have a perspective on, I don't say anything unless
Speaker 7: I it comes from an honest place, such an honest
Speaker 7: place that I'll either defend it, like I'll defend it
Speaker 7: after it's been released, but I'm really defending it in
Speaker 7: the joke. The joke is the defense of this thing,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 7: Like, it's a self defense. It's a self represented concept
Speaker 7: that you give. And it's like, yeah, I said all
Speaker 7: the stuff i'd say a lot of times I'll preface
Speaker 7: something with like, I know this is wrong and you'll
Speaker 7: disagree with it, but here's an honest thought.
Speaker 5: I think a good example of that in the joke
Speaker 5: the bitch you do about not having a kid is
Speaker 5: better than having a kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dog, So yeah, it's just.
Speaker 7: Yo.
Speaker 3: He was like, Yo, he's watching a woman you don't
Speaker 3: trust swallow a field. It's just like, yes, dog, yo.
Speaker 7: I've never done I've never done, Molly, I have an
Speaker 7: experimented with LSD or anything. But if it compares to
Speaker 7: that feeling, I get it. It makes me understand heroin.
Speaker 7: I'm oh that, oh oh, completely free and uninhibited and
Speaker 7: like the world is yours?
Speaker 3: Oh is that what heroin is?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 7: Well then yeah I do that. Yeah, yeah, it's the
Speaker 7: defenses there. I'm my obligation is to me and to
Speaker 7: be honest and to give you honest thoughts. I don't
Speaker 7: consider it at all. I don't consider it like you know,
Speaker 7: oh what, people aren't gonna hate because people are gonna
Speaker 7: hate this because I'm not saying hateful things. It all
Speaker 7: comes from such a real place. You know that that
Speaker 7: I'm I'm either defending in the joke or if you
Speaker 7: don't understand, I'll defend where I'm coming from. It's not
Speaker 7: defending whether not a thing is right or wrong. You know,
Speaker 7: that's not what artist art isn't about. You know, Hey,
Speaker 7: this is the right point, you know, let me create
Speaker 7: something around it. It's feeling and you I'm articulating a
Speaker 7: feeling to you, and I'm saying this is how I
Speaker 7: feel about a thing. I'm not trying to convince you
Speaker 7: otherwise I'm saying, and this is how I feel what made.
Speaker 1: You decide, especially in twenty sixteen, to have a multi camera.
Speaker 7: Format because that is going to America. I like the
Speaker 7: idea of like this is going to America, Like this
Speaker 7: show goes out family, Yeah, this goes out to like
Speaker 7: just like the homes that like us in the bubbles
Speaker 7: of LA and New York. A lot of times don't consider,
Speaker 7: you know, like my family's home. Like content is content
Speaker 7: that's usually made for them, that's targeted for them, like
Speaker 7: a multi cam or something like that usually dumbs down
Speaker 7: to such a degree that it's not it doesn't feel fulfilling,
Speaker 7: you know.
Speaker 3: And so to me, this was the fun.
Speaker 7: The fun is like and the challenge is to try
Speaker 7: and bring something that hopefully has real thought and real
Speaker 7: perspective in it to you know, an outlet that's targeted
Speaker 7: to America, you know, because I mean there's a version
Speaker 7: of this that could exist on emium. K.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I didn't make that. This isn't do you
Speaker 3: think you could do that though? I mean I think
Speaker 3: it would be fun to do.
Speaker 7: I think it would be fun to try, because you
Speaker 7: then you get to just be you know more personal,
Speaker 7: you can stay in the pocket of something you can.
Speaker 7: It's like those jokes that are saying that it's gonna
Speaker 7: go over a lot of people's head. You're you're making
Speaker 7: such specific art that you can kind of as long
Speaker 7: as it's personal and it's you. A lot of times
Speaker 7: those are the better shows, So it'd be fun to
Speaker 7: try and do that. But for this this swing, it
Speaker 7: just felt like a fun thing.
Speaker 3: The multi camera for your show.
Speaker 5: I think it makes it a little more subversive too,
Speaker 5: because if it was something that was like on FX,
Speaker 5: or if it was like, you know, a Sonny, or
Speaker 5: if it was a you know, Louis or something that
Speaker 5: was shot in like this is serious art, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, If it was shot in that way,
Speaker 5: then you know it kind of is you're kind of
Speaker 5: leading a little bit. But when something has the facade
Speaker 5: of oh, this is a multi camera family show, but yeah,
Speaker 5: grandmother kills herself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well the truth, that's what makes it
Speaker 3: so fun.
Speaker 7: The the most fun thing to do is you have
Speaker 7: to imagine, right like a lout of these code openings,
Speaker 7: imagining whatever we're following, and like we follow like little
Speaker 7: big shots fencer. So there's just a reality competition with
Speaker 7: children just trying to make it.
Speaker 3: Really the true drama for.
Speaker 7: A little big shots is the parents. But we don't
Speaker 7: get into that. But we're just children, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: Just put the weight of their failures on top of
Speaker 7: this kid who can juggle shoulders. But anyway, that's what
Speaker 7: the kids really juggling his father's hopes. But but but
Speaker 7: you got this happy show. Steve Harvey's ripping with families
Speaker 7: and like, and the kid's made it to the found
Speaker 7: around and he's crying and his grandma's crying, and then
Speaker 7: you cut to like just I show just like you're like,
Speaker 7: you know, I broke a condoms. The next line, the
Speaker 7: next words they hear are that, And you don't understand
Speaker 7: how fun that is.
Speaker 3: It's the most fun.
Speaker 1: Has comcasts ever or your higher ups at Comcast ever said, uh,
Speaker 1: we can't do that.
Speaker 7: They've had caution. They've actually let us get away with
Speaker 7: a lot of stuff. The guys at comcasts that that
Speaker 7: I've encountered actually really liked the show.
Speaker 3: I really think. I mean, I'm not. I know it's
Speaker 3: easy to say it.
Speaker 7: I don't want to tell if you watch the show
Speaker 7: next to most any like multi camera, especially or any
Speaker 7: like broadcast like comedy. What we try and do is
Speaker 7: the opposite, which is like usually it's like turn your
Speaker 7: brain off. It's a really happy world where everything's like
Speaker 7: shiny and people speak in like kind of unrealistic joke patterns,
Speaker 7: and like even the lighting and every think about it
Speaker 7: and the subject matter is usually even when anytime someone
Speaker 7: uses the word tackle, that means that they're not gonna
Speaker 7: tackle it. That means that it's gonna be like like
Speaker 7: they tackle, you know, it's gonna be some left leaning
Speaker 7: where all united, you know, type of ending. I try
Speaker 7: and do the opposite of that. I was just trying
Speaker 7: to look for whatever the real thing is.
Speaker 3: Well. On the Trump episode, to do with your dad,
Speaker 3: would David.
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, yeah, you voted, Yeah, voted for Trump, like
Speaker 7: I thought he was gonna win. I felt like Trump
Speaker 7: was gonna win. You felt that, then that's I named
Speaker 7: the episode. We taped it in April, and I named
Speaker 7: it President Trump because I was like, Oh, He's gonna win,
Speaker 7: Like it was like there's no way he doesn't win,
Speaker 7: Like I really believed it. And that's what like I
Speaker 7: was gambling on that, and so just seeing everyone go
Speaker 7: like you know Trump is bad or not take them seriously,
Speaker 7: just see boring and not real to what what what?
Speaker 3: Because I I think I know where it comes from.
Speaker 3: But what made you say that he was gonna win
Speaker 3: because we're infatuated with him?
Speaker 7: It was like very few things had seen in my
Speaker 7: lifetime get this type of mass infatuation like one is
Speaker 7: like it's like the oj trial, the marc Ana God
Speaker 7: damn Donald Trump, you know what I mean, like essentially ghosting,
Speaker 7: you know, like like it's mass infatuated. We couldn't let
Speaker 7: him go. We couldn't stop either side. And it's just
Speaker 7: like that much publicity. You can't discount publicity in America.
Speaker 7: You know, it's a thing. You know, Nixon v. Kennedy.
Speaker 7: You know Kennedy was younger, more attractive and willing to
Speaker 7: wear makeup during the debate. You know, like it's the
Speaker 7: he's the easier, the easier guy to market. He's the
Speaker 7: marketing is this is America, and I love I don't
Speaker 7: want to sell citical, but marketing is everything and everything
Speaker 7: you know is a lie.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 7: I hope you hope you enjoy it. I hope you're
Speaker 7: enjoying your afternoon. Hey, Rick, You're my dream.
Speaker 3: Comes to man? Knock about the Box? Was Neighbors? Your
Speaker 3: first movie? Was that your first time? Yeah? Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was my first movie. Okay, how did that come about?
Speaker 3: I had a meeting with.
Speaker 7: Point Gray, with Seth and Evans Company, and then I
Speaker 7: did an audition and it was the first audition I
Speaker 7: didn't walk out of you walk out about this? I
Speaker 7: haven't auditioned well. But I don't like them. I don't
Speaker 7: like the room. I don't like what it is.
Speaker 3: So for someone, what did you walk away from it
Speaker 3: and can go into?
Speaker 7: You go into a room, you put your name on
Speaker 7: a piece of paper, You sit down. There are other
Speaker 7: people that are going out for this part. So usually
Speaker 7: it's either people wearing similar outfit or people that look alike.
Speaker 7: In one room you go in. You know, you stand
Speaker 7: in a room with another person, You read lines, You
Speaker 7: try and do a good read. They record you on
Speaker 7: a video camera from like two thousand and three. You know,
Speaker 7: you leave the room. You never hear from them again. Typically,
Speaker 7: it's what an audition is me. I go to the room,
Speaker 7: sign my name on a piece of paper, sit down,
Speaker 7: look to my left, look to my right, stand up,
Speaker 7: mark my name offset piece of paper, go.
Speaker 3: What would get somebody? Why would you walk out?
Speaker 7: It's like, well, what am I doing here? I don't
Speaker 7: like It's like, am I what am I contributed to
Speaker 7: this project? What is it contributing to me? We're lying
Speaker 7: to each other that you don't have any use for
Speaker 7: each other?
Speaker 6: What are other garis that are sitting in the weight room?
Speaker 7: Yeah, and those guys deserve it. They were nicely, they
Speaker 7: got better smiles. That like they've been working out.
Speaker 3: Is great.
Speaker 7: They give it.
Speaker 3: The other Gerards are killing it. Those dudes, they really
Speaker 3: got it. They are nailing it. No, not for nothing.
Speaker 3: I feel as though you are.
Speaker 1: Uh seconds away from your I'm ready for my close
Speaker 1: up moment.
Speaker 3: But but do you do you want to play that game?
Speaker 7: I have to write it, I have to create the
Speaker 7: thing is like one of the movies I'm working on
Speaker 7: is technically a bigger comedy, and it's a it's a
Speaker 7: concept that that I came up with like a couple
Speaker 7: of years ago, and it's a bigger comedy. You know,
Speaker 7: bigger comedies typically aren't that good, you know, like they
Speaker 7: really aren't the fun. The same thing with like a
Speaker 7: multi camera, same thing with anything is to bring some
Speaker 7: type of perspective or thoughtfulness into the whatever we're doing.
Speaker 3: So I think you can do.
Speaker 7: I think a huge action movie can be good, you know,
Speaker 7: and like have like some type of thought behind it.
Speaker 7: I think Beverly Hills Cop is great, you know, But
Speaker 7: it's just my goal is just to avoid, you know,
Speaker 7: the the mindless and avoid the the horrible version of it,
Speaker 7: you know, because there's a horrible version of Indie. There's
Speaker 7: a horrible version of you know, everybody. Everything that is
Speaker 7: a bit underground isn't good, you know, like, but it's
Speaker 7: you're just trying to do the good version of it.
Speaker 7: So that's what's fun is seeing if we can try
Speaker 7: and do a good version.
Speaker 3: Are you developing the movie ideas that you would like
Speaker 3: to star in yourself? That year?
Speaker 7: There's one I'm right and now that that I'll probably
Speaker 7: start in. I didn't want to star in it. I
Speaker 7: wrote it and I was really hoping Jim Carrey was
Speaker 7: gonna do it. But before before writing, I partner with
Speaker 7: these guys Colin Mario, who wrote the bulk of the script,
Speaker 7: and I had the concept uh and uh I wanted
Speaker 7: Jim Carrey for But then it's like, yeah, you should,
Speaker 7: you should just do it. It's still not too late
Speaker 7: until it's recorded. To Jim Carret stuff.
Speaker 3: Part of me feels like you're like the reluctant.
Speaker 1: Celebrity Is it that you've seen other people try to
Speaker 1: cross the street and get run over.
Speaker 7: Or celebrity is or you know, all the money is
Speaker 7: behind the camera, And well, yeah, I care about behind
Speaker 7: the camera a lot because I know that a lot
Speaker 7: of things that we see are all producers mediums and
Speaker 7: producers visions, and like being a producer is the it's
Speaker 7: my favorite role. Celebrity is like like in itself is
Speaker 7: kind of cheap. Like I care about making stuff. I
Speaker 7: like making things, and if any type of notoriety is
Speaker 7: a byproduct, that's sure, but that's how I.
Speaker 3: Think of it.
Speaker 7: I'm usually not even out, so I don't even know,
Speaker 7: you know, like the the like any type of fame
Speaker 7: or just to have my face on something just seems empty,
Speaker 7: you know, just to be in something just seems empty.
Speaker 7: I just wanted to be good, So it's the reluctance
Speaker 7: is for quality, for quality sake. I'm just kind of
Speaker 7: hesitant because I just want to be in stuff that
Speaker 7: seems challenging. And fun or interesting.
Speaker 5: I forgot who the comedian was that they mentioned the package,
Speaker 5: and I don't know if this is something we talked
Speaker 5: about the show You with Chris or somebody, but they
Speaker 5: talk about the package where they say, all right, you're
Speaker 5: gonna in your stand up career at some point you're
Speaker 5: gonna get the package where they say, you know, you're
Speaker 5: gonna get the TV show and then the movie did and.
Speaker 7: The book and book and and then and you know,
Speaker 7: you get a record deal offer, Hold on, can I
Speaker 7: produce this singing record? I would come on, man, hey, hey,
Speaker 7: if you could do, I just want you to do.
Speaker 3: Every now and then.
Speaker 7: I actually I say my first version of hearing a
Speaker 7: really love the the Angelo record had you want to saying.
Speaker 3: This is a quest Love exclusive and I did it
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 7: Yeah and so and that's like, yeah, so if you
Speaker 7: just say that over whatever record me singing off key
Speaker 7: in the background, this is yeah.
Speaker 3: I had that traumatized me. That was I've never heard that.
Speaker 7: That was the earl having That was the That was
Speaker 7: like the first you actually felt like you were you
Speaker 7: had something Illgalah.
Speaker 3: So you didn't just leak it. You actually said this
Speaker 3: is a quest Lex played on the radio, didn't you, I.
Speaker 1: Know, not only played it on the radio, said that
Speaker 1: wait cut to holy crap, cut to cut you. A
Speaker 1: night in Virginia, A night in uh Richmond, Virginia after
Speaker 1: roots show. Me and de ain't talked about talking over
Speaker 1: a year, and I guess he just got words. This
Speaker 1: ship came out and Steve car I'm at a DJ gig.
Speaker 1: He's like, look, you like warm me to run?
Speaker 3: Right? I just remember how it went. I was like,
Speaker 3: but I did warn you. You're like, look, I know
Speaker 3: you don't know this, but looking for you?
Speaker 9: And what do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Deani's cousins looking for you, so just run. They
Speaker 3: must have called me looking for you and they're like
Speaker 3: what club you know?
Speaker 6: They was?
Speaker 1: It was like, mister big, when did this happened? I
Speaker 1: was like two thousand and five. We were still worn
Speaker 1: with each other's Lariosyah. I really, you know, as much
Speaker 1: as like I like to claim being fast forward with
Speaker 1: the Internet, that's one aspect I really didn't know.
Speaker 3: I didn't know, Like you know, in my mind I
Speaker 3: was I was in Australia.
Speaker 1: I was in Perth at an underground bunker college station,
Speaker 1: like four in the morning with like, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I was feeling myself. I was like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to hear it, And I'm thinking, like, I'm
Speaker 1: just on some local college radio show things. Really I'm
Speaker 1: in Perth. Perth is like the loneliest place on Earth.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. And then like three months later someone
Speaker 1: realized what they were listening to.
Speaker 7: And just.
Speaker 3: Destroyed my life. Oh but yeah, I mean four years
Speaker 3: later we made up.
Speaker 2: Man, But if I knew you said this is a
Speaker 2: Quest Love exclusive, I would have told his cousins where
Speaker 2: you were.
Speaker 3: That's wow, motherfucker. I was on local races.
Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, internet radio. I don't listen
Speaker 1: to my radio on the computer back then.
Speaker 3: Yeah that so did somebody recorded or something like that.
Speaker 3: Somebody And that's what people live with for like six years.
Speaker 7: But it but it really set this tone for how
Speaker 7: even when it came out years later on the album,
Speaker 7: it set the tone for how I heard the.
Speaker 3: It really did feel like Park was missing.
Speaker 7: You want to well, no, it's just when you you
Speaker 7: saying it, you felt like I really got some exclusive
Speaker 7: ship here. But it really it feels like how Frank
Speaker 7: Lucas did Heroin deals.
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, man, this is yeah, I guaran
Speaker 3: see it.
Speaker 7: They know that, like because I just pictured you just
Speaker 7: in a basement, like I could just see what.
Speaker 3: Did you put the echo on? An exclusive? Exclusive?
Speaker 7: It really felt like it really felt like he could
Speaker 7: get killed for like you felt it in.
Speaker 3: His he was almost bacon, almost bacon. That's how you
Speaker 3: dropped a joke. It's only a joke. We get yeah, man,
Speaker 3: so what what I know? This is weird?
Speaker 5: But what other comedians do you check for or should
Speaker 5: we check for that? We don't mean, you know, Jamar,
Speaker 5: that's number one. Very few people make me laugh like him.
Speaker 3: What's he doing? Not what's he doing now? But is
Speaker 3: he planning on entering?
Speaker 1: Because he's such he's like sun riding me. Like it's
Speaker 1: just a very avant garde jazz guy that only he
Speaker 1: has two other records. One record in which no one
Speaker 1: likes his jokes, like it's just you hear the groans
Speaker 1: in the audience.
Speaker 3: And he's like I don't I don't care. But then
Speaker 3: the other one where they're laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, why would he release both records of
Speaker 1: the same material with an audience feeling and an audience
Speaker 1: feeling it.
Speaker 3: It's just he is. He is brilliant to it. He
Speaker 3: really is just like a brilliant It's like Andy Kaufman.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's he's gonna do a special I think
Speaker 7: uh at some point when we were talking about it
Speaker 7: the other night. Uh So hopefully soon because I am
Speaker 7: excited for his He he hasn't really jumped in yet,
Speaker 7: you know, like the album Naked is such a you know,
Speaker 7: Neil knows about a few people know about it, and
Speaker 7: the people that know, you know, love it. But I
Speaker 7: think he's gonna jump in really soon. So he's a guy,
Speaker 7: uh that I'm excited about. He's he's always on the show.
Speaker 7: He's on my show. He just makes random appearances every season.
Speaker 7: We just find a way for Jamar to just like
Speaker 7: appear in a hallway or.
Speaker 3: Just the thing.
Speaker 7: And who else. There's this guy out of Chicago. He
Speaker 7: lives in New York now. He writes on snl uh
Speaker 7: so also checks from Comcast Drew Michael, who I think
Speaker 7: is is absolutely brilliant. Like he he's a guy that
Speaker 7: just like you know, between him and Jamar, those are
Speaker 7: the guys I would say check for in the new.
Speaker 3: Joint, the eight the latest latest special.
Speaker 5: I saw, well, my experience with it was was different
Speaker 5: because I just saw it first and then I saw
Speaker 5: the I forgot what that write up was, what it
Speaker 5: was in where the critic was there and he was
Speaker 5: just like, yo, this was odd.
Speaker 3: It was live. Yeah, I can't remember what it was,
Speaker 3: but but you say that you wanted the first one.
Speaker 3: Loved the store. It felt more like a documentary to me.
Speaker 5: Eight felt like a documentary like that was just the
Speaker 5: way it was shot and like some of the shots
Speaker 5: it was just really close on you and those real
Speaker 5: long pauses.
Speaker 3: That was just something man. Again, that took a lot
Speaker 3: of balls, like to do. Yeah, oh thank you.
Speaker 7: Bo Burnham and Bo and I were just we based
Speaker 7: it off like concert for like we based it off
Speaker 7: of It had to be personal and vulnerable. That was
Speaker 7: the goal because like you know, for me, that was
Speaker 7: just a thing that I love about, like comedy, like
Speaker 7: in humor, you know, just as a concept, just the
Speaker 7: vulnerability of it.
Speaker 3: We really just wanted to focus on that.
Speaker 7: It was the crowd like they were that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: we get caught like and again it was tait. It
Speaker 7: was for the experience of you being in your homes
Speaker 7: watching it and seeing the vulner It was for those
Speaker 7: those really tight moments, the silence, the you know, the
Speaker 7: emotion of it. It was like just trying to lean
Speaker 7: into emotion over over everything. When we watched concert footage.
Speaker 7: We watched I mean everything. We we like, you know, movies,
Speaker 7: you know, Sergio Leone type shots and and uh out.
Speaker 7: It was inspired by like this Marvin Gaye album Vulnerable. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that and the working title was called Vulnerable, and I
Speaker 7: would kind of listen to that, and like a lot
Speaker 7: of concepts came while listening to that, and like, uh,
Speaker 7: you know, even just performance was more. There's this Edda
Speaker 7: James live and montro where she sings I'd Rather Be Blind, Yeah,
Speaker 7: and that is my single favorite live performance that that
Speaker 7: I've ever seen, Like just it's so raw and emotional
Speaker 7: and you know, and the faces there and she's making
Speaker 7: expressions and it's weird and it's personal. And that was
Speaker 7: the intention behind eight. Was just this really personal thing
Speaker 7: that just felt like a conversation that just felt.
Speaker 3: True to you know, who I was. What was it
Speaker 3: like to do it in the round. It's really fun.
Speaker 3: I've never seen a comedy thing in a round.
Speaker 7: I have limited experience with it too. It just that
Speaker 7: that also made me feel really vulnerable because people are
Speaker 7: all around around and you're surrounded, Yeah, you're and so
Speaker 7: to lend itself. So I only did two performances in
Speaker 7: the round around La just to before doing the round,
Speaker 7: and then just went for it. And it just something
Speaker 7: about it felt right, It felt natural, It seemed to
Speaker 7: fit with you know, where the material was and where I.
Speaker 6: Was natural turn, did you have to remind yourself?
Speaker 7: I naturally kind of pace around, like I kind of
Speaker 7: naturally like I'll have a lot of times that it's
Speaker 7: a song in my head and a lot of time
Speaker 7: I'm dancing and and it's weird. I'm kind of stepping
Speaker 7: around and even like if a song is strong enough,
Speaker 7: I'll I'm kind of saying things to the rhythm of it,
Speaker 7: like on stage, like there's certain like you hold certain
Speaker 7: words and you're trying to match patterns, your patterns and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. So you know, I always move, you know,
Speaker 7: I always move, Like the the default song would be
Speaker 7: like take five, like brew Beck's Take five. It's kind
Speaker 7: of constantly just because the movement is such a dance.
Speaker 7: So you like this and pause and say that yeah, like, yeah,
Speaker 7: it's like kind of a little bit, but only specific
Speaker 7: little I'm not doing the whole thing.
Speaker 3: It's not just singing or so. But that's your polarizing trick.
Speaker 3: I get it. Chappelle.
Speaker 1: Do you know about Chapelle's polarizing chick? He yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: if when you see him perform, you'll see, uh, he'll
Speaker 1: put a cigarette in his mouth, not light it, let
Speaker 1: it dangle. He'll grab a cup, put it to his
Speaker 1: not drink it, and then he'll wake you up, always
Speaker 1: by hitting his thigh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he'll laugh, do the thing on this thigh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: All of that is hypnosis thing that he learned in
Speaker 1: uh communication class, which is like there's a way to
Speaker 1: hypnotize the audience to always pay attention to.
Speaker 3: Rational mind decreases and the emotional mind.
Speaker 7: Yes, because you want him to drink like your mind
Speaker 7: then immediately goes well, like you know what the next
Speaker 7: step is and it's a disruption of that step and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: exactly mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Rhythm like jazz is of influence, Like Chris is repeating.
Speaker 7: Chris repeats, he sets up, he repeats. Yeah, especially the
Speaker 7: prim the premise is going to be very clear to
Speaker 7: you by the time he does the punch for Chris
Speaker 7: because of the yeah, the repeating yeah, yeah, it's rhythm.
Speaker 3: So who teaches? Who's your teacher?
Speaker 1: As far as like is it just uh work working
Speaker 1: out and and uh kind of taking notes or is
Speaker 1: it who's your teacher? As far as like letting you know,
Speaker 1: like how far to go with your joke and your
Speaker 1: patterns and those.
Speaker 3: I kind of just figured.
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean there's influence from I love rhythm,
Speaker 7: So every you know Cosby if you can say you
Speaker 7: know Cosby. Yeah, Jack Parr had this really good speaking
Speaker 7: voice and like rhythm to his voice, and and Jack
Speaker 7: Benny and b Arthur and you know, uh the way
Speaker 7: I will watch James Baltwood speed Like even as a
Speaker 7: kid in Malcolm Xspek, I watch a lot of and
Speaker 7: would listen to a lot of speeches. I like speaking
Speaker 7: in people's voices and the ebb and flow of that.
Speaker 3: So you as it's about the quote, it's mostly the voice.
Speaker 7: It's yeah, the voice. Yeah, it's it's like finding it.
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that because yeah, Dave said that.
Speaker 1: He's like, well, you know he took on mail blinks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like I took on Mail Blink's voice and you
Speaker 1: can say anything in mail Blink's voice.
Speaker 3: It's going to be funny, yes, which I didn't even
Speaker 3: think of that at the time.
Speaker 1: So the voice, the Jack Parr just is this your
Speaker 1: definitive voice, Like Chris Rock had two voices if you remember,
Speaker 1: like Born Suspect. Yeah, he didn't quite find his thing,
Speaker 1: and then he found the preacher voice and then that
Speaker 1: became his lock.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it.
Speaker 7: What changes for me is rhythm, like my it's my voice, like,
Speaker 7: but rhythm like that song element of it is what
Speaker 7: changes is like that's why it's you know, the pauses
Speaker 7: and this and that, and I can hear it and
Speaker 7: you can kind of see it, and so that's what
Speaker 7: changes for me. My voice is I have it. It's
Speaker 7: pretty close to you know how I naturally speak on stage.
Speaker 7: I speak clear, I'm like a little jolty in like
Speaker 7: off stage, like right now, because there's always a million
Speaker 7: thoughts on stage is actually paced out more the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So the stuff that you did on eight, had
Speaker 3: you tried those jokes out before, had you been working them? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I worked I've worked on a lot of that
Speaker 7: some stuff. I mean, it's always something new. Like the
Speaker 7: the opening of it was the night before. I hadn't
Speaker 7: tried it.
Speaker 3: I just it was like the night before.
Speaker 7: But then, Uh, there's a couple of moments and then
Speaker 7: some moments that you just think of in the you know,
Speaker 7: while you're doing it. But most of it was stuff
Speaker 7: that I worked out and thoughts that I wanted to do.
Speaker 5: Take us through the construction of a joke and like
Speaker 5: you know, I mean in English class, you know how
Speaker 5: they would have the we would have the chart where
Speaker 5: it'd be like, okay, exposition riseing action, falling action.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, daynam and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So like the beats of a joke, like particularly, I
Speaker 5: mean the cereal joke, the one I quote it like,
Speaker 5: walk us through that, Like how did you know that?
Speaker 5: Or did you know that the nigga You'll never have
Speaker 5: cereal line was gonna punch that?
Speaker 3: That was? Yeah?
Speaker 7: That was that was that Uh that I did, like
Speaker 7: that in its full concept from eating cereal with Jamar
Speaker 7: at three in the morning, me and Jamarrow.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 7: We lived together for a while and we would uh
Speaker 7: and started getting money or whatever. The biggest change was cereal,
Speaker 7: Like we just started buying like we had all the
Speaker 7: cereal in the world and then like it was just
Speaker 7: one one night at three in the morning after a
Speaker 7: trip from Ralph's like like we're like it said down.
Speaker 7: I was just like and I said it as the
Speaker 7: as I said the jokes like that we eat cereal
Speaker 7: like a teacher told us, will never have seen Like
Speaker 7: that's how we like we It was like we were
Speaker 7: trying to prove something in which we were which we were.
Speaker 7: It's the same thing with shoes or whatever you do.
Speaker 7: Is that truth hit me. And a lot of times
Speaker 7: when the truth comes, that's what the joke is like,
Speaker 7: it's like, oh, yet that and everything else is setting
Speaker 7: up and explaining that truth.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was good. Yes, So how do you go
Speaker 3: take it from a truth to a joke?
Speaker 7: Just argue it. It's like a lot of times I
Speaker 7: have a point or fault and I'll just argue it.
Speaker 7: I'll argue it with friends or argue it on stage
Speaker 7: based off the audience's reaction and like the expression I
Speaker 7: was like, oh you still hate it, you still don't
Speaker 7: understand that. I'll keep arguing it and then I'll find
Speaker 7: a way in That's kind of what I'm doing.
Speaker 5: I'm just arguing, yeah, the reserve that I think that
Speaker 5: the reserve joke, the bit where like more people have died.
Speaker 3: What was that?
Speaker 7: That was from a real argument because of it was
Speaker 7: it's a close friend of mine, not little not my
Speaker 7: little brother, but uh, he joined the reserves. I thought
Speaker 7: it made I told him I thought it made him arrogant.
Speaker 7: We were trying to watch Zero Doctory together. Yeah, he
Speaker 7: criticized it. I was I was offended that he had
Speaker 7: the audacity to criticize it, you know.
Speaker 3: Being a and and and those are things that I
Speaker 3: said to him. Who is we nigas?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was like we would have never killed in
Speaker 7: line like that. I was like, motherfuck, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 5: We the bitch you did about your uh how you
Speaker 5: know we talk about you accountant and being a being
Speaker 5: the first one to make it out is an expense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, talk about that. That was from a conversation. I
Speaker 7: really a lot of the truths that that came. And
Speaker 7: I just text him and told him I had I
Speaker 7: was hanging out with Maverick Carter one night. Uh you know,
Speaker 7: do you know Maverick Maverick Carter is one of the
Speaker 7: coolest guys you gotta meet Maverick Carter. He's he uh
Speaker 7: works with Lebron And it's just this one of the
Speaker 7: most brilliant guys you know, I've ever met. And we
Speaker 7: were talking about and and also from Ohio and you know,
Speaker 7: uh we talked about that experience of growing up and
Speaker 7: stuff like that, and talked about spending habits that needed
Speaker 7: to be curbed once ah, the ability to and so
Speaker 7: it just it all comes from this, really these realizations. Yes,
Speaker 7: I know, I just had to google. I'm just saying, oh,
Speaker 7: you know, yeah, yeah, it's just the coolest I like
Speaker 7: to shout out. You have, you know, certain people that
Speaker 7: make you feel cool to just like say, yeah, Maverick
Speaker 7: Carter is one of those guys you just feel cool
Speaker 7: saying like, you gotta meet Maverick.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, he's incredible.
Speaker 5: When was the turning point for you when your family
Speaker 5: or like your people from the crib or whatever, where
Speaker 5: they realize like, oh, Ship, you're really making money.
Speaker 3: Oh god, it's his number. Yeah.
Speaker 7: You know what's funny. I was gonna say, I don't know,
Speaker 7: because I haven't.
Speaker 3: I did change all it.
Speaker 7: Tuk was one one cousin who I don't know as
Speaker 7: a second. Yeah, yeah, that was like immediately, this isn't
Speaker 7: gonna work.
Speaker 3: How do you not how do you not feel?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: The survivors were more syndrome, as in, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean there's two ways to do it. You can either
Speaker 1: alan iverson it and try to take everyone with you,
Speaker 1: but the weight of everyone on your shoulders, you know,
Speaker 1: suddenly like your cousin's your driver and your yeah three
Speaker 1: cousins are you know, or an audience trying to holler
Speaker 1: at someone.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I keep the payroll small, keep it tight. But
Speaker 7: because people they work for things that they're good at.
Speaker 7: If there's a thing that you're good at, you know,
Speaker 7: and it can contribute, then yeah.
Speaker 3: Of course. But I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't have that because you end up hurting people
Speaker 7: more than you than you help them. It really is
Speaker 7: the teach a man to Fish philosophy, where it's like
Speaker 7: you don't want to hurt people. Obviously, sometimes there's immediate
Speaker 7: needs and you hear those and you try and help
Speaker 7: when you can, you know, accordingly of something health wise
Speaker 7: or something really personal that's happened, and but but just
Speaker 7: for the sake of it hurts them, you know, they
Speaker 7: don't really learn anything they don't learn. Yeah, you become
Speaker 7: a crutch and they don't learn anything. They don't try
Speaker 7: and and grow. So I talked, I mean a lot
Speaker 7: of times. The biggest thing you can give is is
Speaker 7: your truth or any type of advice or any type
Speaker 7: of like, uh, you know, help you can give in
Speaker 7: that way, I'm all try and be open to that.
Speaker 7: Do they listen, because I like, I mean, people only
Speaker 7: want me well, people always want to win the lottery.
Speaker 3: Everybody wants to even as a kid.
Speaker 7: Is gonna sound like bullshit, you know, but growing up poor,
Speaker 7: by my biggest fear because my dad played all the time,
Speaker 7: My biggest fear was winning the lottery. It was I
Speaker 7: I was terrified of the thought of it, of the
Speaker 7: thought that we would someday win the lottery, because then
Speaker 7: it takes out the need for me. I was afraid
Speaker 7: of being written out of my own life and the
Speaker 7: need to like drive and figure something out. And I
Speaker 7: was afraid of that because I was like, oh no,
Speaker 7: I want to I make millions. It needs to be
Speaker 7: off of work. I was always terrified of it, even
Speaker 7: poor with nothing, I was terrified of winning the lottery.
Speaker 7: And I'm still I still am. I specials of it,
Speaker 7: and I don't trust it, and I don't trust what
Speaker 7: it does for you.
Speaker 3: I don't trust what.
Speaker 1: It Who is the negro whisper in your head? Because
Speaker 1: you've already you've given three or four examples already, Like.
Speaker 3: I don't want it easy.
Speaker 1: I want to learn the hard lessons so that way
Speaker 1: my character can And I'm like, who are you?
Speaker 6: Like that's what he is?
Speaker 7: But I just always felt I always felt that way
Speaker 7: because it's not I mean, first of all, like that's
Speaker 7: the point of life. The point of life is like
Speaker 7: you learning these lessons, figuring things out. That's also the
Speaker 7: only way you can't contribute, you know, the only way
Speaker 7: you can understand something and help someone else on their
Speaker 7: own journey, on their own path. So it's like, why
Speaker 7: would you write yourself out of that? Like why would
Speaker 7: you try to take some easy route that that cheapens
Speaker 7: it for you?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 5: So you it felt like if y'all hit the lottery,
Speaker 5: that would take away any lesson that you would have.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, then then what And it didn't.
Speaker 7: It didn't seem like it would feel fulfilling in any
Speaker 7: way just winning the lottery, you know.
Speaker 5: It just that's never one documentary and I haven't watched it.
Speaker 5: It's about like people that like committed themselves after they
Speaker 5: killed themselves.
Speaker 9: After nobody held onto the money. It's like stories of
Speaker 9: like what five or six people? It was a TV
Speaker 9: show too.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I always wanted to do this personality test,
Speaker 1: and now I could do it on my own.
Speaker 3: Chill course, love supreme.
Speaker 1: All right, lion, you just won the lottery. Let's let's
Speaker 1: let's make it small and say nine point five million dollars.
Speaker 6: I love that you small.
Speaker 3: Stop criticizing me.
Speaker 6: I'm not stop using them now.
Speaker 3: Just for lottery. That is a small it is small
Speaker 3: ship like the power balls. Yeah, that's like exactly.
Speaker 9: I mean, my daddy just want two hundred dollars the
Speaker 9: other day and we was happy. But go ahead, a
Speaker 9: little money, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Five million?
Speaker 1: Very better boss, bill optimism.
Speaker 3: You won nine point five million dollars. What's the first
Speaker 3: thing I do? What is the very first thing you do?
Speaker 3: Pay off some bills? Okay, so you're gonna claim that ticket? Yeah?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 3: Yes, strike one? What would be the first thing you
Speaker 3: do first? And I would do.
Speaker 5: Start planning my exit out of the country, like I
Speaker 5: talked about Girl and like, well, yeah, you telling her? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: I will tell her. I mean she's probably my wife,
Speaker 5: So I mean it's if you know, I would learn
Speaker 5: like a yeah, hold up, hold up, waiting god damn minute,
Speaker 5: and I would start plotting and playing. I mean my
Speaker 5: bills like I don't really get like I don't carry
Speaker 5: that or no shit.
Speaker 3: Like that, so it must be nice. I mean that
Speaker 3: would be truthfully.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm already I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 7: family member who I'm giving the ticket to, or like
Speaker 7: either either if I find like what I think is
Speaker 7: the right case of you know, or or just person
Speaker 7: that I could I would give the truthfully.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds like give it away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, would you sign it some type of documentary? At
Speaker 6: least give me just a.
Speaker 5: Clean here, trust me, five mili is not I mean
Speaker 5: that's not all right. Let's say one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: one million. Yeah, like you're getting just like leave the
Speaker 5: country like I'm going, like my life as I once
Speaker 5: knew it is.
Speaker 10: Over for all right, I'm paid bill even come feel
Speaker 10: from your past will come up out of nowhere?
Speaker 5: Asks that point for feelings like after taxes like nigga,
Speaker 5: you buy a couple of fucking rbs and like you know,
Speaker 5: some some wing.
Speaker 11: Stops and they they're like, yeah, you buy by choice
Speaker 11: coup RB. Yeah, White Castles, Roy Rogers, Chase. I put
Speaker 11: the money away from my kids, and then I probably
Speaker 11: give him some of it away.
Speaker 9: It's crazy, you guys, but I'm buying Trader Joe's and
Speaker 9: I put him in the hood. And then also I'm
Speaker 9: going to just give put a certain a lot of
Speaker 9: money for the community, as in my black folks, and
Speaker 9: then I'm going to pay my taxes first.
Speaker 3: It's going by. It's going you don't know, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: don't pay one hundred million. Yea, You're only getting like
Speaker 3: sixty million after tax.
Speaker 10: It's going so sorry, gets taking Trader Joe's in the hood.
Speaker 3: I don't I'd buy all the weed, and I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't understand that Steve already has one hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty one million.
Speaker 2: I pay my dad back for all the money he's
Speaker 2: given one hundred and twenty one million.
Speaker 3: That is strange, because I would think the wisest thing
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 5: One is never all right for starters, never let anyone
Speaker 5: know you got money, which I believe in that Russell
Speaker 5: Simmons way of which you know.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't think Russell Simmons has money.
Speaker 1: There was a period, there was a period def Champion
Speaker 1: Russell was like super bumped, like pre yoga.
Speaker 3: Drugs Russell.
Speaker 1: But I would actually find a fall guy, because the
Speaker 1: thing is when you claim the ticket, it's going to
Speaker 1: be a ceremony. What I would literally find a fall
Speaker 1: guy and broker a deal. I'll give you ten million,
Speaker 1: you sign this contract, you're going to be the winner.
Speaker 1: But quietly, I'm gonna take my my whatever, my one ten,
Speaker 1: give you the ten million or whatever.
Speaker 3: Action.
Speaker 5: But I was not in every state. You'd have to
Speaker 5: claim it though I forgot which states it is. But
Speaker 5: or you can you can remain anonymous New York.
Speaker 3: You have to claim it, okay. So I would not tell.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell, So I wouldn't even tell my wife,
Speaker 1: or I would tell nobody.
Speaker 3: Well, how you.
Speaker 10: One hundred million dollars from your wife? How that becomes
Speaker 10: that becomes the new Brewsters millions? Your marriage is going
Speaker 10: to end. Your marriage is over if you do that.
Speaker 3: You know that, right?
Speaker 7: And that's an interesting that is interesting the thought that uh,
Speaker 7: a woman would leave you for heaven money.
Speaker 3: You were not telling you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no, that's an interesting thought. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 7: to I would.
Speaker 1: Feel like you have nine figures in your possession. No
Speaker 1: one is going to be genuine with you. Well right right,
Speaker 1: But then there's some people like why is a great example,
Speaker 1: like lie is the I'm gonna treat you like an
Speaker 1: asshole to let you know that I don't think you
Speaker 1: but I love you.
Speaker 5: Anyway, one I would tell shen't be the only one
Speaker 5: I would tell.
Speaker 3: I'm like, listen, like mama, my mama. Would I tell
Speaker 3: my mom? I wouldn't see because.
Speaker 5: Then your mom I would just like other people, you know,
Speaker 5: if I told my mom and that you gotta protect
Speaker 5: your mind.
Speaker 3: You got to protect your mom. Just give me that
Speaker 3: you've had this conversation before.
Speaker 9: What you got to do is roll up on Sally
Speaker 9: May and just throw that ship and they face and say,
Speaker 9: fuck you take this hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I got student loans, but.
Speaker 3: That anyway you're so you don't know about okay, because
Speaker 3: they really up paid off many a student loans.
Speaker 6: Okay is eighty thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: If you feel no, I'm done paying student loans. That's
Speaker 3: I'm done anyway.
Speaker 5: That was get here, Where are.
Speaker 3: You going with this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, no, what he mentioned about about lottery tickets and
Speaker 1: giving it away and that sort of thing.
Speaker 3: So I was just curious. There was like a.
Speaker 2: So we're not bad for cashing in, We're just but
Speaker 2: you're saying we shouldn't tell people.
Speaker 3: I don't think you should tell a soul and you
Speaker 3: should find someone to claim it. And then everybody's gonna
Speaker 3: be wondering if I'm selling drugs when I show up
Speaker 3: with my car.
Speaker 5: If you're not, if you're not, I think if you're not,
Speaker 5: if you're not married, I would I would agree with that,
Speaker 5: But I think if you can't share it with you,
Speaker 5: if you can't share with your wife, and the nigga
Speaker 5: like why are you?
Speaker 3: Like why are you married? You gotta protect her because
Speaker 3: I feel like no one exist. I think y'all gotta
Speaker 3: protect each other like y'all can't do in your life.
Speaker 1: Will keep a secret that my significant other has one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million on standby? They're gonna buy some
Speaker 1: sort of bag or some pair three thousand dollars shoes
Speaker 1: or some ring that doesn't.
Speaker 3: Give it away, like that.
Speaker 5: Now, if you just buy like a fleet of Tesla's ship,
Speaker 5: then yeah, you're going to jail. You're gonna get wrong.
Speaker 5: But like a new bag or new whatever. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, like you know, we make pretty decent money,
Speaker 5: like niggas can.
Speaker 3: Buy cereal like give it away, you know what I mean? Niggas.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you title each all, so can
Speaker 3: we officially call this one of the niggas can buy question?
Speaker 3: I can't wait to share that one.
Speaker 1: Bill and Steve the name of this episode Steve don't ship, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't please.
Speaker 5: But I wasn't like when you go back to the
Speaker 5: crib man, Like when you go back, can you walk
Speaker 5: through Hans Mall and just still be Yeah?
Speaker 3: Sunglasses.
Speaker 7: I'm usually just I'm at home. I have four nieces
Speaker 7: and a nephew and I'm like just them. I'm just
Speaker 7: like playing with them. Like that's usually what I go.
Speaker 3: We go, uh, we go to Uh.
Speaker 7: There's this Uh it's called Japanese American I have to prepresent. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: because it's not just learning from living in LA for years.
Speaker 7: It is not a Japanese experience by any stretch of
Speaker 7: the imagination.
Speaker 3: But Mexicans come out.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: They made Actually, that's where I saw ninth. That's why
Speaker 7: I actually met ninth for the first time. We shared
Speaker 7: a table at a at a bachi restaurant like that.
Speaker 7: You may get me there. I'll go like there, you know,
Speaker 7: but then like I just stay in and eat, you know,
Speaker 7: play with my nieces and nephews.
Speaker 3: You a mountain chicken.
Speaker 7: Every now and then. Every now and then I do
Speaker 7: like we had to stop. It's great, it's great, it's fantastic.
Speaker 7: Every now and then I'll go out. I'll go out there,
Speaker 7: take fifty two North fifty two.
Speaker 3: That sounds awesome, chicken chick.
Speaker 5: It's like actually, because you're going towards us a black mountains,
Speaker 5: a fifty two, like you're going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like pilot Mountains. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I'm just like
Speaker 3: like laying in my mom's lap. Folks are still in
Speaker 3: They're still there. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 7: That's only the only place, the only place I'm not
Speaker 7: thinking about emails is just like laying my mom's just
Speaker 7: turned into a child. I was like, all right, and
Speaker 7: she's like annoyed by, like like move, I get out
Speaker 7: of my cry.
Speaker 3: Okay. That's so that's still there.
Speaker 5: They're still living there, that's still there, and they still like,
Speaker 5: have you done the celebrity I'm buy my mama house
Speaker 5: thing yet?
Speaker 3: Or have you is that is stopping me? She's very.
Speaker 7: She's like me, I get it. She's like me as well,
Speaker 7: and like you know, once drawl on. They're a very
Speaker 7: independent family. Who but I do I with that said,
Speaker 7: all of all of those things, I just forced it
Speaker 7: on it.
Speaker 3: It was just like, just like cautious. Yeah, they're always
Speaker 3: that false minding.
Speaker 8: No.
Speaker 3: No, it's just like it's like, Okay, what year is this?
Speaker 3: What your car is this? You want to go? Wow?
Speaker 1: Well, I thank you very much for coming through on
Speaker 1: the clutch. No, man, thank you special serial episode.
Speaker 6: It looks so different.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know, listen, I'm gonna go and uh you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: has some mixes that he wants me to, wants me
Speaker 7: to check out something.
Speaker 3: You'll do that.
Speaker 7: But it's nice to stop buying between sessions, all.
Speaker 1: Right, because you got eminem right after the eminem is
Speaker 1: right after that exactly whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know, the life of Rick rub and you guys
Speaker 3: never boy oh boy, yeah man, Yeah, it's gotta keep you.
Speaker 1: I clearly never met Rick. I can't even jump into
Speaker 1: you literally just nailed down. Yeah, you nailed it. Trust
Speaker 1: me on this. So when the season starts, win.
Speaker 3: May thirty first first we will be there front.
Speaker 5: And are you still you're still doing like clubs and
Speaker 5: stuff and you still like just working stuff out.
Speaker 7: I haven't been on the road in a while. Just
Speaker 7: I've been working on the show and then jumping to
Speaker 7: some features. I'll mostly just be in New York. Uh,
Speaker 7: probably the summer between here and New York. Uh, and
Speaker 7: I'll jump in to the cellar and you know, trying
Speaker 7: to be a comedian again. I'm excited.
Speaker 3: So like if you came to like like Charlie Good
Speaker 3: Nights and Raley, that would you play that kind of maybe?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't. I never do stand up enough. We're
Speaker 7: talking about going home, Like, I don't do stand up.
Speaker 3: I just I just lay low.
Speaker 7: I just like if I'm in North Carolina, I'm like
Speaker 7: eating bow Jangles Man.
Speaker 9: Just what.
Speaker 7: Is there?
Speaker 1: Yeahs I ride for both Jangles and I'm technically a vegan.
Speaker 6: Yeah it takes different just like Popeyes is just a biscus.
Speaker 3: No, what do you think? Less pop It's not Jingles.
Speaker 3: It's on that level. It's on that level. It's on
Speaker 3: that level.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's on that level, either of them on a
Speaker 7: good day, on a good day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: It's like you want to weigh in. It's like it's
Speaker 7: like watching Steph Curry and Lebron play each other there.
Speaker 3: This is like this the last time you've been.
Speaker 6: I just went to Pop like two weeks ago, and
Speaker 6: the biscuits.
Speaker 7: Was like flatter and it just no, no, no, you request.
Speaker 3: We're riding for Jangles though not.
Speaker 6: Jangles around here, So.
Speaker 5: I think both Jangles didn't make it out of this.
Speaker 5: I think they got one like Maryland somewhere.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it doesn't go past Texas or something.
Speaker 3: I think that's yeah, Yeah, they had one a whole
Speaker 3: Chicken episode. We do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go the chicken for like maybe a month,
Speaker 1: go back to chicken. Just if you go back Chicken out.
Speaker 1: Think you're gonna baby to go back.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 3: You are so real with that.
Speaker 5: I was vegetarian for like closer two years and beef
Speaker 5: poor all that. I gave no ships about that yard
Speaker 5: Bird homie. Yeah, like I'm back to it.
Speaker 3: Last night.
Speaker 1: At last night, I drove in front of Roscoe. Come on,
Speaker 1: it's Saturday, come on, and I'm just like you chicken
Speaker 1: tears because.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, But you vegan, do you do like the
Speaker 3: fake uh? Because that's what I can't. But I don't.
Speaker 7: I like, you know, veggies or whatever. I like going
Speaker 7: across the roads. But where I stop is when it's like,
Speaker 7: these are meatballs and if you don't lie to them
Speaker 7: in but if you don't, if you're true blue to it.
Speaker 1: And once half the sugar consume leaves you, you know,
Speaker 1: like when you're going to die whatever. And then you
Speaker 1: when you're not eating right and you taste the diet
Speaker 1: coke or whatever, it tastes like nasty. But once you
Speaker 1: really adjust your thing, you're like, oh, this tastes like
Speaker 1: regular because you brought your sugar down.
Speaker 3: I'm riding for Impossible Burgers to the day the plant Burgers. Yes,
Speaker 3: if you tried an impossible burger, is that it does?
Speaker 3: MoMA in New York, Yes, the New And and Crossroads
Speaker 3: has it.
Speaker 1: I My life goal is to invest maybe get half
Speaker 1: percent of stock and Impossible Burgers.
Speaker 5: That will be my winning linery. And it's total plant based.
Speaker 5: It's totally plant it's total plant based. Uh, It's I mean,
Speaker 5: they just their their secret was that they discovered that
Speaker 5: blood is the element that has us addicted to meat.
Speaker 5: So they have a blood formula. Yeah, the blood formula
Speaker 5: is beats olive.
Speaker 1: Will they have a blood formula inside of the impossible
Speaker 1: burger and it taste Did.
Speaker 7: You just tell me that we're all vampires?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: It was like we're all discovering that with vampires, just like,
Speaker 7: oh wait, so we are.
Speaker 3: Bill Gates invested in this company.
Speaker 1: The scientists did a study for like seven years and
Speaker 1: discovered that the element because they wanted to know, like
Speaker 1: why does veggie food taste crappy and hamburgers taste so delicious?
Speaker 1: And once the study was that there's no blood element
Speaker 1: in there that has us addicted it.
Speaker 7: But you know what gets me again, it's like things
Speaker 7: were like when you start putting burger on it. I
Speaker 7: wish they didn't call it. But if they called it
Speaker 7: anything else, impossible patty of of science. Even if I
Speaker 7: called it a science patty, I'm like, Okay, I'll try it,
Speaker 7: because you know, I just there's a lot of eying me.
Speaker 7: When it's just vegan hot dog, I'm like, fuck you,
Speaker 7: I know what a hot dog?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like that's the thing is like I can't fuck with
Speaker 5: the vegans because it's like they are I mean two things. One,
Speaker 5: it kind of feels like a colt. It kind of
Speaker 5: just feel like branch Davidians that don't eat cheese.
Speaker 3: So it's like that.
Speaker 5: But then it's the other part is like so part
Speaker 5: so much of veganism is predicated on oh, we have
Speaker 5: stuff that tastes just like this, like nigga, I can
Speaker 5: just go get.
Speaker 3: You to a non vegan that's not good to vegan.
Speaker 5: But I feel like if you like, okay, if it
Speaker 5: was a religion right, and if you were like, okay,
Speaker 5: I am Islam, right, just for his example, you say
Speaker 5: I'm Islam, but my Islam is just like Christianity, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean.
Speaker 7: You're like, no, no, my friend, could my friend you
Speaker 7: have to put it the best he said, uh, basically
Speaker 7: that it would be It's as absurd to a meat
Speaker 7: eater to have like a like fake meat, you know,
Speaker 7: as if you're vegan and someone gave you a carrot
Speaker 7: made of beef.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. It's just like how dare you?
Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's it's Jedi mind tricking yourself it's can
Speaker 1: we just in the show like that?
Speaker 3: Margaret? Yeah, on that note, R and B have of fun,
Speaker 3: Tikeolow and uh sloppy Margaret. Shout out to the Quoss
Speaker 3: Bill and I'm bade Bill and Sugar Steve and our
Speaker 3: guest Carmichael. Thank you very much. This is funny science
Speaker 3: patty science patties.
Speaker 1: Uh yes, I'm gonna get a few science patties. This
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