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Speaker 1: doing the show as we will do every year on

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, which is a very special day in

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball and one of the most important days

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Speaker 1: we believe in freedom, and obviously baseball played a small

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Speaker 1: during that time back September eleventh of two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: So you know, of course games across the country there'll

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Speaker 1: to start the show obviously saying that we believe in freedom,

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Speaker 2: That great I mean, I was playing Major League Baseball

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Speaker 2: it should never be forgotten. It should never be pushed

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Speaker 2: and there is no room for anything. You know, whatever

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Speaker 2: on my game tonight on Fox September eleventh, with all

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Speaker 2: no reason other than giving his beliefs. It's not where

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Speaker 2: we should be. And if anything's on September eleventh, we

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Speaker 3: And it's something that brings the country together. Obviously I

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Speaker 3: Like it's something that affects everybody, affects everybody differently, and

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Speaker 2: That's where the issue is.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's something that baseball is intertwined in

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Speaker 2: I'mber every September eleven, if we remember.

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Speaker 1: This, President Trump's going to be a Yankee stadium tonightnine

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Speaker 1: or at nine to eleven. I think we just need

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Speaker 1: so guys will start in New York and AJ the

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Speaker 1: Yankees got smacked by the Tigers.

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're covering quite a bit of Yanks

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Speaker 1: The Tigers have the best record in the American League

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Speaker 2: They are they're beating up on the Yankee bullpen. The

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Speaker 2: The start okay, But the Tigers are sending a message

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Speaker 2: and right now they're the one seed in the American League.

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Speaker 2: They have the best record in the American League. And

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Speaker 2: as of right now, the American League goes to Detroit

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Speaker 2: The Tigers won the season series for them the first

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Speaker 3: I mean the Tigers needed to have in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: it looked like the Yankees weren't one hundred percent matching

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Speaker 1: How much do you like the Tigers in general Krafts.

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Speaker 1: I mean last year, this was the shocking storyline down

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Speaker 1: So how scary is this team in your mind?

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Speaker 3: I mean, they show they have different facets, different ways

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Speaker 2: When you have a ace.

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Speaker 3: Like Trek Scougle, you can go out and you can

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Speaker 3: I think they're a better team than they were last year.

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Speaker 3: Are they good enough to withstand kind of a slow stretch.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: They have the best record, and I don't have a

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Speaker 3: just see too many teams. Blue Jays were doing really good.

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Speaker 1: what AJ pulls from a slab pack and we go

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Speaker 1: pull a little Emerald pack this week. AJ looking for

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Speaker 1: something big always.

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Speaker 1: Got big money, big money.

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Speaker 1: We've got a Dave Winfield card from nineteen to seventy four,

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Speaker 1: seventy four tops card from this Emerald pack. Estimated value

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Speaker 1: three hundred bucks. You could sell it back for two

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Speaker 1: seventy sold sold. I feel like you are into more

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Speaker 2: You like legend In my showroom, I have a Robin

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Speaker 1: I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: So I mean I have some older vintageer players.

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Speaker 2: I disagree Scott, But Dave Winfield for that amount of

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Speaker 1: And if you want to get your own pack or

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Speaker 1: slab pack or card purchase at arenaclub dot com. Slash

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Speaker 1: foul for me aj, I think the Tigers will go

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Speaker 1: as their starting pitching goes. And I know this sounds weird,

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Speaker 1: at least three good starters, right, I mean, Dodgers won

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Speaker 2: They still had They still had some starters. Though they

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Speaker 1: That's my point. Yeah, they still had.

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Speaker 3: Right totally. But I know Chase Utley, and I've brought

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Speaker 3: This is the reality of sport of baseball, and I'm

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Speaker 1: We just went over an extreme case of this. Sean

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Thanks? How many of us canna say we got

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Speaker 1: do have a clip of him talking about it, So

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Speaker 1: let's do that first and then we'll react. I was

435
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Speaker 1: trying to bunt, but they tell me, don't bunt, just swing.

436
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I was just trying to move

437
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Speaker 2: him over and I didn't even see.

438
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Speaker 1: The first basement was so close. So the guy hit

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Speaker 1: it in there. You know, if you know, it could

440
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Speaker 1: have been worse. When did you get the signal to

441
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Speaker 1: swing away?

442
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Speaker 2: Why you're in the batters?

443
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because like every probably every time in baseball

444
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Speaker 3: in that situation, you.

445
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Speaker 1: Had to bump, Yeah, every time. Even I was trying.

446
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: I was practicing bund in the case though, well, while

447
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Speaker 1: they were on defense, I was trying to make bunny

448
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Speaker 1: all right, let's see thet's see. And then they tell me, hey,

449
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Speaker 1: you gotta swing, just.

450
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Speaker 2: Move them on.

451
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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's crazy. That was that was amazing. Yet

452
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Speaker 1: that's cool and a J While you react to this,

453
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Speaker 1: we can show the photo of how close the first

454
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Speaker 1: basement was to Leo Rivas when he was given the

455
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Speaker 1: green light.

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Speaker 2: It was awesome. Yeah, I mean first basement. Wow, that

457
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 2: is uh, that is right in your face. I don't know,

458
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Speaker 2: is that Contreras playing first right there? Who is that

459
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Speaker 2: playing first? Right in? Contra suspended though? I thought he

460
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Speaker 2: got suspended or did he appeal? Did he appeal his appeal? No? Yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: it was Contrara's Yeah, that is too close for comfort.

462
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: And you know what, they weren't expecting him to go deep.

463
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 2: He hit a homework. Good for him, man, good for

464
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Speaker 2: the kid, and in a huge pen or raise people.

465
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Speaker 2: This is These are the kind of things that if

466
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Speaker 2: the Mariner is going to make the make a run

467
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Speaker 2: and make the postseason to make a run, it's it's

468
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: a bats like this that people remember forever. So good

469
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Speaker 2: for mister Revos. And man, I would not have been

470
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Speaker 2: to controllers because I would have been like, this is way

471
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: too close for comfort right here. Geez.

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Speaker 3: I mean they just they said, hey, you're gonna you're

473
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Speaker 3: gonna take away the bunt. Well they did, and Revas

474
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Speaker 3: for everybody out there, kids, he was told to get

475
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: get the job done, get the runner over. That means

476
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Speaker 3: he has to pull the ball on the right side,

477
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Speaker 3: which also means you gotta catch the ball out in front.

478
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Speaker 3: What happens when you catch the ball in front, Sometimes

479
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 3: it goes out of the ballpark. But exactly what AJ said,

480
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Speaker 3: there's gonna be fans in Seattle no matter what kind

481
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Speaker 3: of run they make. This is a playoff season. It's

482
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Speaker 3: making memories for fans. They're gonna be like, oh man,

483
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Speaker 3: what was it, Louis Revas, Louis Leo, Leo Revas, Leo Revas.

484
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Speaker 2: Oh, that was my guy. Ooh.

485
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Speaker 3: He was like twenty seven years old, barely made the

486
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Speaker 3: big leagues. He was twenty six, Like you remember stories

487
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Speaker 3: like this, and it's nights like this thirteenth inning.

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Speaker 1: It was so sick, it's crazy. We entered the month

489
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: AJ looking at races that were me in terms of

490
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: who's getting in and who's not. And the National League's

491
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: getting more and more interesting. On the American League side,

492
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Speaker 1: we've been covering Texas. That's probably the best shot of

493
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Speaker 1: sneaking in past not necessarily Seattle. Seattle's one game back

494
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Speaker 1: of Houston, so they've got a shot to catch them.

495
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Texas is right there too. Texas just swept

496
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Speaker 2: the Brewers. So it's amazing though. How a week ago

497
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Speaker 2: we're like, oh, the races are done. It's all about positioning,

498
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 2: and now all of a sudden you're like, hmm, could

499
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Speaker 2: some team sneak in the National League. One is the

500
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Speaker 2: one that's crazy to me because they went from the

501
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Speaker 2: Mets were what five four, five, six games up no

502
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Speaker 2: long ago, and now it's two and they don't have

503
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Speaker 2: the tiebreaker. We just had Will Salmon on he's he's

504
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Speaker 2: got to be sweating. The Mets got to be sweating.

505
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Speaker 2: We love Mendy, but man, I think if you if

506
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Speaker 2: you ask him for real, Mendy's sweating a little bit

507
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Speaker 2: right now. And I don't know how they turn it

508
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: around because their pitching is so banged up. I don't know.

509
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Speaker 2: But they got to get out of Fielladelphia. They need

510
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Speaker 2: to win today in Philadelphia. They got to win tonight

511
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 2: on Fox. Kenny Rosenthal be there is get their good

512
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 2: luck charm. He can he can give him some good

513
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: luck and maybe he can find Grimace and they can

514
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Speaker 2: hang out together. But they got a win tonight in

515
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia and then get some start seconds and wins. Matt's

516
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Speaker 2: nada gimmick. Matt's neda gimmick. That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's last year.

518
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: Last year they had like six gimmicks, the pumpkin Grandma's omg.

519
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Speaker 2: They got their best guy going. Listen. They got the

520
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: guy who's been the best for them all year. They

521
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Speaker 2: got Peterson going tonight against Lazardo and Lozardo's been good,

522
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Speaker 2: but Peterson's been their guy. They they got to win

523
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Speaker 2: this game tonight before they where are they going? Then?

524
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Speaker 2: They got Texas coming in with the Grom. They get

525
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Speaker 2: to Groham tomorrow so in his homecoming to New York.

526
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Speaker 2: So they need to win tonight. They need to win

527
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Speaker 2: tonight because tomorrow is Tong versus the Graham, and I

528
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Speaker 2: would think he would like the Graham's chances tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, what do we have on Paul Skian's getting

530
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Speaker 1: the load management situation? Yesterday pulled his team ultimately loses.

531
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Speaker 1: The Oils are pulling a bunch of walk offs lately.

532
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: But he had eight punchouts aj and they only let

533
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Speaker 1: him go sixty four pitches. I mean, their season has

534
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: been over for a long time, but I guess they're

535
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Speaker 1: just trying to keep him in check to get through

536
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Speaker 1: the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Why why not just let him roll, let him see

538
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Speaker 2: what he can do so next year he can build

539
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Speaker 2: him up again. I mean, geez, it's not like he's

540
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Speaker 2: struggling this year. He's got a one one one, what's it,

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Speaker 2: one nine one nine.

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Speaker 1: First this year? Yeah, yeah, this year, one.

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Speaker 2: Nine two this year in one hundred and seventy eight innings.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, let's let's look, let's let him get a

545
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Speaker 2: couple more. I mean, he probably has the cy Young

546
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Speaker 2: wrapped up in the National League, but it would be

547
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Speaker 2: cool if he could get to two hundred innings and

548
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Speaker 2: you know how many of her strikeouts he has and

549
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Speaker 2: all those numbers, Because it's just an awesome story. The plairates.

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Speaker 2: You have one thing going for you right now. You

551
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Speaker 2: got one thing going for you right now, Pittsburgh, it's

552
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Speaker 2: all Schemes. Let him ride. Let's ride.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. They know better. They have handled

554
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: pictures in history. They have handled pictures so much better.

555
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: And everybody else they have kept them all healthy. They

556
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Speaker 3: know what they're doing. There's no way Paul Schemes could

557
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: have survived two more innings of pitching. There's just no way.

558
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Speaker 3: I'm sure it's it's just the best thing for them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baba Chandler.

560
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Speaker 2: What what did? What did? Well? Bubba Chandler got hit

561
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: his first start, so they're probably never going to start

562
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: him again. Oh my, I can't, I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 2: That was all sarcasm.

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Speaker 1: So the Dodgers are gaining some separation here in the division.

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Speaker 1: They're up three games on the Padres, and it's time

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Speaker 1: to remind everyone about tie breakers. They're really up four

585
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: games on the Padres because they won the season series.

586
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Tough loss for them yesterday. They brought an Adrian Morihone

587
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: to try and pick out a what was it four

588
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: or five out save, ends up giving up a couple

589
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: of runs. Although I will say it's not like the

590
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: Reds torched them. They had a couple bleeders that went

591
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: through for them, but that's that's how the game works.

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00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: They got them. They had the bunt hit plus the

593
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: two bleeders. Abbott was great on the Red side, Nick

594
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: Povetta pitch well on the San Diego side. But AJ,

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00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: it looks like the Dodgers are going to take the division.

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really think we're too worried about that.

597
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: But here here's my here's my real, my real question.

598
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: The night before they threw Suarez Ann Miller, so they

599
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Speaker 2: were shut down. I know they have an unbelievable bullpen,

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Speaker 2: but sometimes you got to save bullets, you know, and

601
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: last two nights ago they didn't, and then that led

602
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: to more hone having to do what he did. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not fully into their bullpen management,

604
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: but sometimes they don't exactly. Sometimes I think make sure

605
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: just goes for it, and there are times where you

606
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: got to take a step back and say, all right,

607
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 2: we can win this game, maybe without using all of

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Speaker 2: our bullets. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a lot of na yesterday, a lot

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Speaker 1: of not available from the big boys.

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Speaker 3: It's all part of this is this stuff comes. Everybody

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Speaker 3: has to be when you play a bullpen game. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that's what they have to play, but in

614
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Speaker 3: the playoffs, most likely that's how they're set up, and

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00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 3: everybody has to.

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Speaker 2: Be on one guy.

617
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Speaker 3: One guy has a little hiccup playing against another playoff team,

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Speaker 3: it could spell doom.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is big news out of Baltimore for those

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Speaker 1: frustrated Orioles fans that have been calling for the job

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Speaker 1: of the leader of their front office. Think again. He

622
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Speaker 1: actually was promoted before this season started. Michael Elias is

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Speaker 1: now the president of the team's baseball operations department, and

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Speaker 1: they are looking to expand the front office and hire

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Speaker 1: a general manager underneath him. They've already been expanding, as

626
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Speaker 1: they added an assistant to the general manager who came

627
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Speaker 1: over from the Washington Nationals, their scouting director, Danny hasp

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Speaker 1: But let's start with the big portion of the news here. Aja.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely dominated talk shows in Baltimore as

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Speaker 1: the season fell apart pretty quickly. They're like, is Michael

631
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Speaker 1: Lias going to be working on another off season for Baltimore?

632
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: How about a Hell? Yes, he's actually promoted right before

633
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Speaker 1: this season started.

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Speaker 2: How come this is just coming out now? Though? That's

635
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Speaker 2: what I want to know. They wound out, I know,

636
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: but why why is this not? Why is this not

637
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: talked about all the time, like Whire's front office salaries

638
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: in front office contracts kept so secret, not just in

639
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: baseball but in every sport. If players contracts should be

640
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: out there, so it should be front office team people,

641
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: and so should presidents and all that. I don't understand

642
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: why this is such a secret and it's coming out now.

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00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: But Michaelias is the power and he ain't going anywhere

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Speaker 2: anytime soon. People, So I hope you like him.

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Speaker 3: What if GM gets more leeway into making a little

646
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: bit better signings in the off season, spending the money

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Speaker 3: that the ownership has given you a little bit better

648
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 3: than they did. I know they missed out on a

649
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 3: couple signings that they didn't ultimately go and use their

650
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: a lot of money for. It was a lost season.

651
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,479
Speaker 3: Do I think Michael Lias has done better for this

652
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: organization than worse?

653
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: Yes? I do. Do.

654
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: I think he should be an unchecked resource of free

655
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: agent signings. No, his history has been developing talent. I

656
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 3: think they have developed talent. I'm not going to argue

657
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: is it this most amazing talent ever? No, I'm not

658
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 3: gonna argue that. But you have to get people to

659
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 3: get across the finish line. And hopefully as a president

660
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: of Baseball Operations, he's willing to ask that question of

661
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: his new GM whoever, whoever that is, and whatever that

662
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: role's going to be, is he going to ask that question?

663
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: Hey? Am I doing this right? Should we be looking

664
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: at something else to make the big league team better?

665
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: I think the GM is just going to be a

666
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: helpful component to the way the front of office operates.

667
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: The GM's not making the final call on anything big.

668
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: That's the president and the owner.

669
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: But that's why.

670
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: But that's why teams like the Rays, and I know

671
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 3: the Rays are small market, but everybody sits there and goes,

672
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: we want to be the race. You want to be

673
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: the raise. You have to get your ego out of it.

674
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: How many times do we hear ego come into play

675
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 3: with the race? No, because there's there's just that's how

676
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: they operate. Everybody has a say. Ultimately, there's decision makers

677
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: in the end, but everybody truly feels all the way

678
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 3: down to the third hitting coach, the assistant to the

679
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: assistant hitting coach, has a say if they feel like

680
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,239
Speaker 3: there's a margin that they can get better, if they

681
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 3: feel like there's a player that could be brought into

682
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: to fill a hole that that they that they aren't

683
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: able to fill in the roster, to make the big

684
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 3: league roster better. And that is what, in my opinion,

685
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: the best teams do that have the best Yes, it's

686
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: still hierarchy, but everybody, everybody's feelings and decisions and once

687
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 3: and desires are are at least heard.

688
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: I think fans should be entitled to knowing, yes, what

689
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: the money looks like, but even more importantly, what the

690
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: years look like on contracts for significant front office executives.

691
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: AYJ what if the Oriols have another down year and

692
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs next year? But maybe Michael las signed

693
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: a five year contract. I have no idea. We don't know.

694
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: As far as I know, it didn't say anything in

695
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: the article. This was Ken and Ken, Rosendald Bridgeierli and

696
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: the athletic doing a great job of it. But we

697
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: don't know.

698
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 2: So why do we not know? That's what I understand.

699
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: Why do we not know? Why can we not Why

700
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 2: can we not find this information out? Why would they

701
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: not tell us this information? It's the same in every sport,

702
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: though it happens in every sport, everything sport you follow.

703
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:50,959
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, by the way, so and so signed

704
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: a contract extension last year. Why the hell didn't we

705
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: know this when they signed them. Why don't they announce

706
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: these things? Why do they Why do they keep these secret?

707
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know.

708
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 3: The oriol season, there was there wasn't a time they're like, hey,

709
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna announce this the end of April, when we're

710
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: leading the American League East.

711
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, when we get.

712
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 3: Hot in May, that's what we're gonna announce it. It's

713
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: gonna have a hot stretch, couple walk offs, all right.

714
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: Here we are in September, we had four of our

715
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: last five wins or walk offs. We gotta announce it. Now,

716
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 3: we've got to tell somebody.

717
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: They didn't announce it. I mean, Ken and Britt found

718
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: out about it, probably because they're searching for a GM

719
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and then the GM's like, oh, is the president going

720
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: to be there long term? And they're like yeah, I mean,

721
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: or is Michael Ayas there and they're like, yeah, yeah,

722
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: we're hiring someone below him. We locked him up to

723
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: a promotion before the season started. So this happened before

724
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: the season started, Crafts. I mean, even if it happened

725
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: the day before the season started, announce it. I don't

726
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: think it did. I think it happened in the winter.

727
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: Don't do this with players. Players don't. Players don't get

728
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: contracts and not talk about it. I signed a contract

729
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: extension in the middle of the season. One time. They

730
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 2: were doing it that day. They couldn't wait to announce it.

731
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: Why don't we do the same.

732
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: Well, that's because that's because players are the only ones

733
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: that make any money in baseball. Owners don't make any money.

734
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: Front office doesn't make any money. That's how they want

735
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: to keep keep painting that picture so that the public

736
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: only thinks the players are the only millionaires in baseball.

737
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Right. Well, I can guarantee you it's at least five

738
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: million bucks a year for him, and I know the

739
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: top end. It's what ten, twelve, fifteen something like that

740
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: for the top end guys. Yeah, in the front offices.

741
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: So they're doing okay, and their jobs usually last much longer.

742
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Besides a few superstars, their jobs usually last, you know,

743
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: quite a bit these days. I mean, Michael Isias is

744
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: a perfect example. He entered in the middle of a

745
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: super tank. Aj. I mean the first two full seasons

746
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: were one hundred plus lost seasons for him taking over.

747
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: And that's fine. But this team tank for half a decade, Yeah,

748
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean not on.

749
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 2: Purpose in a different way.

750
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, they years.

751
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: They didn't win a playoff game. They didn't win they

752
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 2: didn't win a ah one ah, they didn't win ah

753
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: playoff game. No one they had the best record, didn't

754
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: win a playoff game. So didn't they have this year?

755
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Like wow, okay, oh they made year.

756
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: They made a lot of moves in the trade deadline

757
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: last year to really fortify that team.

758
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: Right, they got Trevor Rodgers their ace. I'm flipping on

759
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: that one, but I get what you're saying. It did

760
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: not work out for them last year with the moves

761
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: that they made.

762
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: Who's responsible for that?

763
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 3: Because not like the Orioles were just hot all the

764
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 3: way into the trade deadline and they're like.

765
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: Hey, we don't need anybody, we are good to go. No,

766
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: they were already kind of swooning the leather, kind of like, ah, like.

767
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: Somebody help us here, get us a big piece. We

768
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: got Trevor Rodgers, who we ended up sending down the

769
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: Triple A. Look, let's like a good trade now Stowers Stours.

770
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Stowers or rod because right now

771
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: they're out there they didn't hit neither, but but their

772
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: outfield ain't hit neither. Right, if they had Stours all year,

773
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: would he have helped because he's I mean, I know

774
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: he's hurt, but I mean he's been hurt, but like

775
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 2: he was banging before he got hurt.

776
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: They need starting pitching though, that's the problem. Here's my thing, guys.

777
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: It wasn't the answer at the time.

778
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: I have the answer, no doubt.

779
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: Out and made the trade. Guess who was available this offseason?

780
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: Garrett Crochet. Guess who they didn't go get Garrett Crochet

781
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 2: because they wanted controllable starters. What the Red Sox do?

782
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: They went out and got Garrett Crochet, and thank you,

783
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: Red Sox is Kyle Teel looks like he's gonna be

784
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,399
Speaker 2: really good my drafts. Looks like he's gonna really help

785
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: this team for the White Sox coming right. But the

786
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: Red Sox gave up players for a guy, and then

787
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: what do they do? They signed him. This is what

788
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: the the Orioles haven't done. They went out and got

789
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: Corbyn Burns. Now, Corban Burns end up blowing his elbow

790
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: out this year and that looks great. But they didn't

791
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: know that at the time. But they they had Corbyn

792
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: Burns and they just let them walk, right. They were

793
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: looking for controllable guys. Why do they gotta be controllable?

794
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: Why do they have to be Go get the guy

795
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 2: that you think will help you win play off games

796
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: and get you the playoffs and make a deep run

797
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: and then you know what, if you like them, re

798
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: sign them. Don't just let them walk out the door

799
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: for a draft pick.

800
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: They did that the year before with Corbyn Burns and

801
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: it definitely helped them out. Yeah, exactly. They did that

802
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: with Corbin and I mean, you didn get run support

803
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But here's my thing, guys, if I'm

804
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: the owner of the Orioles, next year is the year

805
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: we either make the playoffs or we don't. That's what

806
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: I would be saying if I'm the Orioles owner, Right,

807
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: we make the playoffs, even if it's a wild card spot,

808
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: it's on an easy division. Okay, miss the playoffs. Someone

809
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: else should be running the front office. But the vibes

810
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm getting here or that somebody just got promoted, and

811
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: probably as many years left on a deal. So this

812
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: is the part that I think is interesting for Orioles fans.

813
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: This season is this season already, it's over, It's been

814
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: over for a long period of time. But next year

815
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: is the make it or break it year for many

816
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: people judging this team. But I don't think it's actually

817
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: the make it or break it year for Michael Lias anymore.

818
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: Kratz.

819
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: No, but this ownership, what kind of information is this

820
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: ownership going on? They the ink was barely dry on

821
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 3: the contract for buying the team, and then they signed

822
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: him to a new extension, like, hey, you look like

823
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: the best guy to run this organization. Look at all

824
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: you've done. They may have signed themselves into something that

825
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: they didn't really know what they were getting into.

826
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Okay, Well we're reels fans.

827
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: If you're catching a GM do you wonder how to

828
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: be a great GM slash president of baseball ops. Get

829
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: real tight with your owner and convince them it's always

830
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: going to be another five year plan. Oh this, the

831
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: these didn't work out. Give me five more years and

832
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. Give me five more years. That's

833
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 2: how that's what the good ones do. That's how you

834
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: stay in a place for a long time, even though

835
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: you might not have won for a while. Oh man,

836
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: not my players are Oh someone so made that trade.

837
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't me. Da da da da da. And then

838
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 2: you get five more years, five more years. I want

839
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: to be a GM because that way I can always

840
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: get five more years, five more years at seven million.

841
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: I'll take that sign me up. Please give me three and.

842
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 3: I'll win you a championship? What what GM is? That's

843
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: that's all I want?

844
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 2: A GM.

845
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: I'll win you a championship. You won three in three years,

846
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: I'll win you a championship. You know you might you

847
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: might not do it, but you know what it's gonna be.

848
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 3: Like my playing days, I'm either I'm either gonna hit

849
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: it and it's gonna go hard or I'm not. That's

850
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 3: that's what you're getting. So what what ownership is signing

851
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: up for?

852
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: That?

853
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: Every ownership would sign up for that? Would you like

854
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: to be the GM of the Nats? Maybe the Rockies?

855
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Three years? I'll give you three years with the Pirates.

856
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Win me a championship. Oh my gosh, h with that pitching.

857
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: But you got you get the payroll they have. Okay,

858
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: that's it. You're gonna win it. You're gonna win that.

859
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna win the National League in the next three

860
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: years with the Pirates team the way they're constructed and

861
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: they're paying, there won't be there won't be a single

862
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: prospect left in the organization. I'm pushing in because you can't.

863
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 2: You can't, because you can't trade everybody because you don't

864
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: have the payroll. Yeah, but you can.

865
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 3: You can convince your owner to pay the guys that

866
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: for for the one year contracts, the one the one

867
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 3: little hey we need we have the pitching. We have

868
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: the pitching. Three years, you could do it. You don't

869
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: think you can turn it around in three years.

870
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: Not with the payroll, not unless the payroll goes way up.

871
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: I said, with the payroll they have now, you could

872
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: not win a championship in three years. The Rockies ain't

873
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: winning a championship with the payroll they have. The Marlins

874
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: ain't winning a championship in three years with the payroll

875
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: they have.

876
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: You can trade your prospects for pre ar players to

877
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: try and get by that way, but.

878
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: Then that you're just giving up prospects for more prospects.

879
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: You need proven guys. It's the points. Yeah, does have

880
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: one year. If you're gonna give up three prospects for

881
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: a guy with pre arm for one year, whatever it takes,

882
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 2: whatever I take. The Marlin needs some veteran guys.

883
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: I take the Marlins or the Pirates over the Rockies

884
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: because the Rockies, the Rockies, they spend more money than

885
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 3: both of them. But everybody's they've they've a culture of like, hey,

886
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: you know, we can't win, We can't recover all this

887
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: stuff when there are people that have had success there.

888
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: I just think there's the structure of the Marlins and

889
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: the Pirates right now. You could build a team around

890
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: those pitching staffs. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe you know I'd be.

891
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: I'd be now with a thirty five million dollars payroll

892
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: like the Marlins. If you can't win, I'm sorry, you're

893
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 2: not winning the National League. Get you can have Sandy,

894
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: you can have Perez, you can have whoever you want,

895
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: Jansen Junk, you can check your junk all you want.

896
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: You can have all these guys. But in three years

897
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: from now, all those guys are gonna be up and

898
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: you won't be able to afford to a sign. So

899
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: you're gonna science trade Sandy for three pre ar guys. Great,

900
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: and two years are up for arm and you won't

901
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: be able to afford them. So you got a trade down.

902
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: It's a constant cycle. That's why you need more than

903
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: three years. And you also need owners of vack you

904
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: and it'll be great. I'll be out in three years,

905
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 2: will you They have done it? Or we won't. I won't.

906
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: I won't be lying. I won't be to me.

907
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 3: I think guys who are saying give me five years,

908
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: they're lying to themselves, and they're lying to their ownership,

909
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: and they're lying to their fan base.

910
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: Go hard or go home. That's my slogan, which reminded me.

911
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: I worked with someone once when I was at the

912
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: league at MLB Network and their whole thing, I think

913
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: it was an off season like maybe four or five

914
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: years ago, was like I would rather be the GM

915
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: of the Pirates than the Red Sox, and like, obviously

916
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: half of it was trolling, but the other half was

917
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: just like the way he backed it up was so stupid. Yeah,

918
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: it was one of those moments where I'm.

919
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know who that is, but I wouldn't.

920
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't Brian Kenny said it, I don't care. I

921
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: mean I'd said it to him when he said it,

922
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: like I saw him at the office. I was like,

923
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: that's just a brain dead take that. I was like,

924
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 1: that makes us sound stupider as a network.

925
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it was an ex GM.

926
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: I would say, if that's what a GM would say,

927
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be a part of that. Your job,

928
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 3: yes is to like invest in people. Yes, it's to

929
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: make incremental changes going. But you have to see the

930
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: vision of going to win a World Series and what

931
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: that takes. Sometimes it takes swings and misses. But a

932
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: lot of times, if you know what you're doing and

933
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 3: you have the people in the right position, you're gonna

934
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: freaking kill it and you're going to You're gonna make

935
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: way bigger strides for an organization than you are saying

936
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 3: slow and steady wins the race.

937
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was when I think it was when Charrington

938
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: signed up with the Pirates and he's like, oh, I'd

939
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: rather run this team than the Red World Series.

940
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: Charrington won a World Series with the Red Sox. Why

941
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: because he had players? What do you do? The year

942
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, Johnny Gomes, Mike Napoli, Ryan Dempster, Shane Victor Reno.

943
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: I went out and signed all those guys, right because

944
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: he had money. Pirates did they signed this year? No offense?

945
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Tommy Fam Who else they signed? And one guy they

946
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: signed as a free agent other than Tommy Fam? I

947
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: can't think of Okay, okay, tom no offense? Right? The

948
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Red Sox the year they won look at who they signed.

949
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: You're that offseason name. I just named a bunch of them.

950
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: That's why they were good, right, And they had Bogarts

951
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: coming up, and they had all these other guys that

952
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: were already there that were you know, Lackey and Lester

953
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: and those guys that were already there. But they had

954
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: to go get those guys to come in and finish

955
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: the team off. Plus I had David Ortiz making twenty

956
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: five million. Pirates don't have that guy. Pirates ain't gonna

957
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: get that guy, and you ain't gonna convince Bob Nutting

958
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: to spend that money. So yo, hell no, that's one

959
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: of the worst takes I've ever heard. Yeah, would it

960
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: be cool to be pirates and try to build, Yeah,

961
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: it'd be cool. But the end of the day, you

962
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: ain't winning. You ain't winning unless you spend money. I'm sorry.

963
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: Don't be employed somewhere and do a mediocre job. Be

964
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 3: employed somewhere and absolutely kill it. That should be your goal,

965
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 3: GM or a Burger flipper, that should be your goal.

966
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: But they're trying to do this craps. You don't understand.

967
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: If you don't have the tools, you can't do it.

968
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: If you're a burger flipper. You ain't got no spatula.

969
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: You can't put the burger.

970
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: There's a minor league take. I think he wanted less

971
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: pressure in fit person, not Ben Brian. All right, let's

972
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: slap We got Todd Father on with us tomorrow, Kratz.

973
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: I think one more shout out. We saw your hat

974
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: for a very rare occurrence at the top of the show,

975
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: but you want to show it one more time at

976
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 1: the bottom.

977
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 3: Here had I worn on September eleventh, in the last

978
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: season that I played, got the opportunity to wear it,

979
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: and don't look into the nypd f D. Whatever it is,

980
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: it's a hat that gave me, so I'll wear it

981
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: in remembrance, and it's really it's a special hat for me,

982
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: and I feel honored to be able to wear it.

983
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Trying to see if I can pull off a question

984
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: or two from the chat with the extra couple minutes

985
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: that we have. I should have thought of this before here.

986
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: I'll bring up Boo in the chat. I don't think

987
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Orioles pitching moves last season were that egregious. Brattis, Rogers, Rodriguez,

988
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: Wells and Kramer solid enough rotation those other guys were

989
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: just stop gap measures. Agree or disagree.

990
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: Was Bradish hurt to start the year or that was

991
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: the question over the last few years.

992
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I think he's talking about heading into this year.

993
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: Wells and Bradish were going to be out the whole year,

994
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: So you were running on Grayson one hundred percent being healthy,

995
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 3: which he hasn't been yet. To me, that's not how

996
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 3: a team that goes all in to win, Like you

997
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 3: collect six starters to start the season. You make sure

998
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: you have six starters. You did it last year you

999
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 3: went out and or the year before you went out

1000
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: and got Burns to solidify a rotation that had Bradish, Wells,

1001
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: Grayson Rodrigez. So if you felt like your rotation at

1002
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: the beginning this year was better than the previous year,

1003
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 3: I feel like I have an argument there.

1004
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: But you know, maybe I don't understand the question.

1005
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what he means.

1006
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 3: I mean, Charlie Morton, Charlie Martin, you sign to be

1007
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: a stop gap. You signed Chicano to be a stop gap.

1008
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Maybe you get something out of him. You can't say, man,

1009
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: you know, you know we're missing Tyler Wells and Bradish

1010
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: for the year. So we're gonna get a cy young

1011
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 3: performance from Grayson Rodriguez. Rogers is gonna return to be

1012
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: exactly what we thought he was gonna be. No, like that,

1013
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: like that didn't happen. Yes, is he's doing. He's nails

1014
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: right now and he looks like a piece moving forward.

1015
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 3: All four of those guys in a rotation next year

1016
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 3: is awesome. You need to go and get somebody because

1017
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 3: you have the position player grouping that can win a

1018
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 3: World Series and they have to step up to But

1019
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 3: to me, the front office needs to step the team. Yeah.

1020
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were some down years. I mean even Gunner

1021
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: Anderson this year, fine, last year, MVP, Like you know,

1022
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: Jackson Holliday has definitely taken another step, but he's not

1023
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: a star yet. Colton Kowser dealing with some injuries this year.

1024
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: Like there's names here, obviously athlete. We covered his step

1025
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: back yep. But yeah, I mean it was something at

1026
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: least we all agreed on on the show. Not enough

1027
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: TLC with the rotation. We didn't like the moves that

1028
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: they did make, they did spend here we are they

1029
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: have a chance to rewrite it. You're gonna have the

1030
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: same front office at least for this year, so you'll

1031
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: see if they can fix things. We will see you tomorrow.

1032
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,560
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1034
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1035
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00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,080
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