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Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Jen Mueller.

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Speaker 4: And for the first time ever, today we are broadcasting

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Speaker 4: headphones partner of the Seattle Seahawks. I feel very official,

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Speaker 4: John Boyce, you are official, Jed Well, I think we

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Speaker 4: both are official. Does this mean that we have to

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Speaker 4: like sit up straight or something as you slouch in

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I am in a great mood today, John, because they

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Speaker 4: just checked the weather for sun and provided mother and

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Speaker 4: nature changes nothing because that never happens. No rain in

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Speaker 4: the forecast for this week.

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Speaker 5: And I can tell you that in Seattle spring I

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Speaker 5: don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Bring and fall forecasts are super accurate.

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Speaker 4: Not want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Nothing ever changes.

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Speaker 4: I feel like last week that was enough rain to

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Speaker 2: A few guys on you the less than the press

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Speaker 4: And my favorite is when Steve and Dave, my broadcast partners,

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Speaker 4: wave down to me from the booth. Or they're dry

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Speaker 4: and they're warm.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you like to make fun of coffee you and

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Speaker 2: so warm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Well, I'm in a good mood for that.

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Speaker 4: And look, I would have loved to win last week

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Speaker 4: against Buffalo. I'm not upset at being four and four.

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Speaker 4: It isn't fun after a loss. However, I do think

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Speaker 4: the Seahawks are still in a pretty good position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, nobody when you start three and oh,

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Speaker 5: you the expectations change. But the fact is you are

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Speaker 5: four and four, which is a pretty good reflection where

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Speaker 5: this team is right now. They've done some really good

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Speaker 5: things that they've struggled in other areas. And the good

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Speaker 5: news is you are right in the thick of the

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Speaker 5: NFC West because nobody's running away with this division. There's

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Speaker 2: So it's you.

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Speaker 5: You know, you've got an opportunity here if you can

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Speaker 5: get things right to be right in the playoff race.

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Speaker 4: The Rams are back in this.

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Speaker 2: They sure are because.

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Speaker 4: They won on Thursday night. We talked about this last week.

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Speaker 4: They beat the Vikings, who had just come off a

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Speaker 4: warn this too, the Lions influenced the Seahawks and the

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Speaker 4: division standings. Yeah, I mean, it has nothing to do

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Speaker 4: and the Rams have always been a tough opponent for

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Speaker 4: What we saw on Sunday certainly an uncomfortable loss, I

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Speaker 4: a little bit, maybe, if it wouldn't have been raining,

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Speaker 4: and we saw some of those frustrations spilling over.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, second half, we saw a little emotion, but it's

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Speaker 5: sorry to cut off. Mike McDonald said, like, you'd rather

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Speaker 4: I thought. I was like, did you just come up

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Speaker 5: Because, Yeah, it's a lot easier to be like, we're

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Speaker 2: That's what you really.

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Speaker 4: Don't want, right, And as we heard somebody like Jaren

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Speaker 4: It's hard to go from I'm trying to attack the

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Speaker 4: person in front of me. Yeah, I almost said kill.

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Speaker 4: That would be a little overly aggressive twenty years ago.

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Speaker 4: I know that there are certain things that get more

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Speaker 4: and what they were seeing during the game and level

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald didn't have any problem with it.

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Speaker 7: To take away Gino's competitiveness and fire and energy and

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Speaker 7: passion would take away one of his superpowers as a player.

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Speaker 7: So anytime someone gets upset or you know, you want

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Speaker 7: But like we understand when people, you know, if they're frustrated,

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Speaker 7: we understand frustration. We got to bounce back, stay poised,

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Speaker 7: he's done a phenomenal job. You know, we're gonna we're

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Speaker 7: gonna follow, you know, the demonstration that he provides, you know,

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Speaker 5: To Mike's point, like taking away his superpower. We were

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Speaker 5: talking to Julian Love and he got asked about this too.

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Speaker 5: It's like he said, He's like, I've never been around

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Speaker 2: He's a great leader.

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Speaker 5: But I think he's just got like a different kind

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Speaker 2: And look, that's who he is, and that's why he's

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Speaker 5: Like you don't go the route he went the path

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Speaker 5: the game. The game was pretty out of hand. I

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Speaker 5: will also add, like hunting is very inconsistently enforced in

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Speaker 2: Really care at all.

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Speaker 5: Like it was a little silly thing late in the game,

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Speaker 5: he tossed the ball. It hid an opponent but again,

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Speaker 5: I mean, if you try to take away Geno Smith's

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Speaker 4: Well, and I think that goes back to authenticity. Right,

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Speaker 4: We throw around that word and you want people to

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Speaker 4: be their authentic self. You can't turn him into a robot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, not who he is.

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Speaker 4: It is not who he is. We have had people

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Speaker 4: we are witnessing right now is culture building, and it

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Speaker 4: has been a very long time since Seattle has gone

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Speaker 4: through this. And people in the building that were asking

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Speaker 4: we're asking was it like this before? Like do you

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Speaker 4: wasn't comfortable the first couple of years of Pete. There's

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Speaker 4: it's change. And I had three different players say yesterday,

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Speaker 4: and let the foundation build, because you're building a big foundation. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's not a teeny tiny, like little overnight beach vacation house.

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Speaker 2: You're ready for vacation.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for vacation right halfway there. We're building just

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Speaker 5: Mike bigdaland can't come in and try to do things

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Speaker 5: But I mean, yeah, when Pete came in, they did

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Speaker 2: There's good teams answers, but nobody pulled you.

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Speaker 4: It was up for grabs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was up for grabs where you can go

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was in that locker room when they were

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Speaker 4: was a sense of uncertainty every single week. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: they were the veterans who were going to teach other people.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else was on edge. When you walk into the

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Speaker 4: the difference of like this much and it's not the

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Speaker 4: same thing every time. It's not the same play every time.

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Speaker 4: It's not the same play every time, And that's one

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Speaker 4: of the ways you can tell you're not that far off.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you how many games it's gonna take

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Speaker 5: And look, it is frustrating. I understand that fans don't

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Speaker 4: Thank you Scott. I tell you what before we go

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Speaker 4: So you mentioned Ernest Jones before and the fifteen tackles

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Speaker 5: my personality. I probably be I guess I know.

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Speaker 4: I would love to be the person that could talk

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Speaker 4: a bunch of trash and then back it up. I'm

442
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Speaker 4: just afraid that I would fall on my face while

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Speaker 4: maybe you set yourself up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I did really enjoy and maybe you know I enjoyed

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Speaker 5: it more because won that game. But when Bobby Wagner

447
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Speaker 5: was just join Seahawks players in that game in LA

448
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Speaker 5: a couple of years because that was that's pretty entertaining.

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Speaker 4: That was entertaining. But also yes, but that was only

450
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Speaker 4: to his teammates, his former teammate. That's a little different. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that part like would you.

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Speaker 2: Your friends if?

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, if I were in the situation like these

454
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Speaker 5: are my friends that I you know, coworkers whatever for

455
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Speaker 5: all these years, I would definitely have some fun with that.

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Speaker 4: So if you got traded to another team, John the

457
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Speaker 4: week before.

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Speaker 2: Because writer writers get traded all the time.

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Speaker 4: Like, look, I'm creating an alternate reality conditional note you

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Speaker 4: would you would? You would be trash talk like texting

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Speaker 4: me during the week or like or you'd wait until

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Speaker 4: I had you as a guest on the podcast and

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Speaker 4: the Okay, all right, well I just thought I would.

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Speaker 2: This second see going nowhere?

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Speaker 4: How do you know? I just learned something about your

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Speaker 4: personality that I might not have known before. Every Seahawks

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Speaker 4: fan knows that Lumen Field is one of the loudest

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Speaker 4: venues in all of sports, and this NFL season, feel

469
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Speaker 4: every play, every hit, every moment with the Sony one

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Speaker 4: thousand x five noise canceling headphones, the official headphones of

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Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks with premium noise cancelation. You are in

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Speaker 4: the zone, no distractions, just pure football. Whether you were

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Speaker 4: in your living room or on the go, you will

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Speaker 4: never miss a beat with Sony headphones. I wish I

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Speaker 4: had some noise canceling headphones at the concert I went

476
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Speaker 4: to earlier this week, John, I'm not gonna lie. It

477
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Speaker 4: was eighties rock and it was real loud, and I

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Speaker 4: feel real old, and I felt like I was on

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Speaker 4: the sidelines, and I needed my noise canceling headphones.

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Speaker 5: My daughter got her hands on the paranoise canceling headphones.

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Speaker 5: It's not a great thing to let your kid have

482
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Speaker 5: noise canceling headphones because then, oh, they can't hear them,

483
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Speaker 5: because well they know not even that is they ignore

484
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Speaker 5: you anyway, your children. But now they have like the

485
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Speaker 5: excuse of like I can't hear you.

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Speaker 2: You're like yelling cow go.

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Speaker 4: You're already out numbered in your house, and now they've

488
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Speaker 4: figured out how to game the system. I thought you

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Speaker 4: meant because they can't hear how loud they are to you,

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Speaker 4: and so now you just it's yelling for sure. Yes,

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Speaker 4: there was yelling at lumen Field on Sunday, perhaps by

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Speaker 4: more Bills fans than Seahawks fans maybe more, but you know,

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Speaker 4: well there was more yet well yes they were cheering

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Speaker 4: maybe for more place they Yes, yes, I think that.

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Speaker 4: I think it probably goes back to feeling more home

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Speaker 4: field advantages this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would hope so.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it's I mean, Mike mcnogg said it best,

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Speaker 5: like if you want to keep opposing fans from coming

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Speaker 5: and being louder, win like this. Yeah, when the Seahawks

501
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Speaker 5: were winning six, seven, eight of their eight home games

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Speaker 5: a year, it's gonna make for a better experience for

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Speaker 5: the fans. Your home fans are gonna want to go,

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Speaker 5: They're not gonna sell their tickets whatever. But yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we've just seen a shift in

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Speaker 5: fandom in general. Like people travel more. It's easier to

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Speaker 5: travel there. You know, you can look up the numbers.

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Speaker 5: More people are flying every year. It's easier to get ever.

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Speaker 5: You go the flip side this, like we're in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: You could hear the Seahawks, chance, you could see the

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Speaker 5: action green everywhere. So it's like this is sort of

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Speaker 5: what the.

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Speaker 2: League has become.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, and there's you know, loom and Field is

515
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Speaker 5: on top of pretty much any you'll get best stadiums

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Speaker 5: in the NFL top five. Any list is gonna have Loomenfield,

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Speaker 5: So fans of that, Seattle is an awesome place to visit,

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Speaker 5: especially with these AFC teams that you know.

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Speaker 2: They here every eight years.

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Speaker 5: So look, I get it, it's not fun to see

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Speaker 5: other people enjoying a win in your stadium. But I

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Speaker 5: do think it's, you know a little bit, just the

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Speaker 5: way the league as a whole has gone. But also

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Speaker 5: to Mike mcdall's point, if the Seahawks can start winning

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Speaker 5: at home consistently, that'll help a lot because even if

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Speaker 5: those fans are there, you're not going to notice them

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Speaker 5: nearly as much.

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Speaker 2: That is true if you're beating.

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Speaker 4: Them, that is true. Okay, normally I would ask you

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Speaker 4: for two things the Seahawks need to do to come

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Speaker 4: away with a win, in the theme of Halloween and

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Speaker 4: scary factor. I know what I would say, if you

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Speaker 4: could only see John's face. Here's the thing. You actually

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Speaker 4: can see John's face.

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Speaker 2: I apologize what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might want to try a little bit better

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Speaker 4: to hide what's happening going on here.

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Speaker 2: My face is hiding my face.

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Speaker 4: This is this is where it was always going for

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Speaker 4: this is where.

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Speaker 2: It was always hair and makeup before podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, here's what I need at least one thing

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Speaker 4: that would make the Seahawks scary good on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Early down success on defense.

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Speaker 5: And we've seen this defense look good, and really when

546
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Speaker 5: we've seen Mike McDonald's scheme look good in Baltimore, it's

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Speaker 5: you need to get teams in third and medium, third

548
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 5: and long where you can get that pass rush going,

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Speaker 5: get those disguised pressures going. Let a really talented secondary

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Speaker 5: make plays on the ball. We saw it in Atlanta.

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Speaker 5: You got that lead and all of a sudden boom,

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Speaker 5: three turnovers just right in a row. It's really hard

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Speaker 5: to do those things when teams are running the ball

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Speaker 5: or getting you know, passes, and it's they're getting into

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Speaker 5: third and short or not third down at all. So

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Speaker 5: to me, that's that would make a huge difference this

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Speaker 5: defense back on track.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick an offensive point and we could we

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Speaker 4: could both say cut out the penalties too. That would that.

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Speaker 2: Would be having penalties didn't help last week.

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Speaker 4: It did not help. I would like to see Anthony

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Speaker 4: Bradford settle into his spot, as Mike McDonald ha said

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Speaker 4: he is going to get the start. They're not going

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Speaker 4: to rotate it right guard. Look, I don't I think

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Speaker 4: that just having continuity and consistency helps. Yeah, I know

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Speaker 4: why they've been rotating in and out, and I do

567
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Speaker 4: think that experience has been valuable for Christian Haynes. I

568
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Speaker 4: also think just knowing that you were the guy can help.

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Speaker 4: And it's a little bit of a vote of confidence,

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Speaker 4: but I want to see him settle in. I want

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Speaker 4: to see that continuity and consistency payoff because you got

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Speaker 4: to get that run game going for sure, and as

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Speaker 4: bad as the numbers, look, man, it's the difference between

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Speaker 4: if you just blocked a little more this way or

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Speaker 4: that way. Right, if your communication was on point right there,

576
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Speaker 4: Walker could be springing it for some big, big yards.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that would be scary, very nice see him

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Speaker 5: get going.

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Speaker 2: It would be very Does he scary to a defensive back?

580
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Speaker 2: For sure?

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Speaker 4: He really is. I like how we've carried this theme

582
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Speaker 4: all the way.

583
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Speaker 5: There's been two touchdowns this year. It's the main pigott

584
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Speaker 5: where he hits a hole and there's still like a

585
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 5: safety clearly between him and both times in the press box,

586
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Speaker 5: like to the person next Dame like touchdown because it's like,

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Speaker 5: I'm just assuming if it's him and one guy, he's there's.

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Speaker 2: The one that I think one was in Detroit and

589
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Speaker 2: then one was.

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Speaker 4: Here, one was here, Yeah, going towards you.

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Speaker 5: I was standing right there in the field like yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm yeah, I'm gonna bet on him.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna find that Yeah, give him that space, and

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna bet that we nailed those takeaways. I'm going

595
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Speaker 4: to look forward to the Seahawks being scary good on

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Speaker 4: Sunday and giving us a win to talk about the

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Speaker 4: next time we join you for another edition of the

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Speaker 4: Seahawks Insiders Podcast.