WEBVTT - Ep. 883: Foundations - Why Honesty in Deer Hunting Matters

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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<v Speaker 1>First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Peterson, and this episode is all about honesty and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the dumb lies we tell around deer hunting

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<v Speaker 2>and why we should all try to stop. I know

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<v Speaker 2>this is a weird one, folks, but the idea, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it was spawned by like a not too

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<v Speaker 2>revolutionary thought, which is basically the sheer fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>are constantly fed so much bullshit in our daily lives

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<v Speaker 2>that lying is just an accepted form of communication. Our

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<v Speaker 2>politicians are absolutely full of shit, but so are our bosses,

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<v Speaker 2>our co workers, and so many of the people we

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<v Speaker 2>interact with on a daily basis.

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<v Speaker 1>Us too.

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<v Speaker 2>Really partially, that's just how kind of like our social

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<v Speaker 2>interactions have involved. It's really kind of bond when you

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, And you know, deer hunting didn't escape

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<v Speaker 2>this either, like the deer hunting realm.

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<v Speaker 1>Is full of this.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think we should acknowledge this, maybe try to

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<v Speaker 2>lie a little less, which is what I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about right now. The term Ponzi scheme gets thrown

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<v Speaker 2>around a lot, but some people really don't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>know what it actually means. We know that Bernie Madeoff

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<v Speaker 2>ripped off a bunch of high rollers and celebrities a

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<v Speaker 2>while back, and it was big news. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>some people claim bitcoin is, but it's really not a

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<v Speaker 2>Ponzi scheme. It's more of a greater fools theory type

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<v Speaker 2>of thing, at least right now. You know, until you

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<v Speaker 2>can broadly buy your groceries or whatever with bitcoins, it's

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like you got to sell it to somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who will pay more for it than you will. A

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<v Speaker 2>Ponzi scheme is different, and it started with a guy

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<v Speaker 2>whose name might not surprise you. Charles Ponzi. Old Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>was an Italian immigrant who back in the nineteen twenties, when,

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<v Speaker 2>if you know anything about our financial history, was a

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<v Speaker 2>time when people were doing pretty well. The old Roaring

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<v Speaker 2>twenties thing and all, oh the thirties would be a

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<v Speaker 2>different story. But in the twenties there was some money

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<v Speaker 2>to be thrown around and to be made, and one

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<v Speaker 2>guy who figured out how to make a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>it was Charles Ponzie. He was a Grade A world

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<v Speaker 2>champion at lying, which is a prerequisite to running a

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<v Speaker 2>Ponzi scheme. Now, he came up with an idea to

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<v Speaker 2>get New Englanders interested in investing into get this postage

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<v Speaker 2>stamp speculation. Now, before I explain it further, for all

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<v Speaker 2>of you young folks out there wondering how to catch

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<v Speaker 2>the next big thing that might ten thousand ex your

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<v Speaker 2>money in a few years, ask yourself if you understand

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<v Speaker 2>what a highly speculative investment is. If you don't learn

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<v Speaker 2>about it before you part with any of your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember also, if someone comes to you with an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>investment opportunity that they are literally offering to get I

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<v Speaker 2>used some money they could take for themselves, And then

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<v Speaker 2>ask yourself, why would they do that? If you can't

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a good reason, like they are literally

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<v Speaker 2>my dad and he loves me very much and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do that. Consider that the opportunity might not be as

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<v Speaker 2>clear cut or as beneficial to you as you might

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<v Speaker 2>think anyway. Ponzi promised investors a fifty percent return on

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<v Speaker 2>their capital in ninety days, which I hate to do

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<v Speaker 2>this again, but I feel an obligation to say. There's

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<v Speaker 2>no real, big free money out there. If someone tells

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<v Speaker 2>you they are in a dividends stock or ETF that

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<v Speaker 2>churns out even eight or ten percent a year, it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not very safe. You can get ten percent a

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<v Speaker 2>year in the S and P five hundred, but you

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<v Speaker 2>have to give it many years to average the ups

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<v Speaker 2>and the downs. It won't be an instant year to

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<v Speaker 2>year guaranteed ten percent, let alone fifty percent in three months.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing about a Ponzi scheme is that it has

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<v Speaker 2>to grow forever because the money that it needs to

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<v Speaker 2>return that fifty percent in three months has to come

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<v Speaker 2>from somewhere, and it sure as hell isn't going to

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<v Speaker 2>come from flipping stamps for a huge profit. So new

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<v Speaker 2>investors have to show up with their money, and that

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<v Speaker 2>has to go to the early in our investors. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when Ponsi was really humming along, he was bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and fifty K a day, which would be

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<v Speaker 2>about like three million or so today. Not bad for

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<v Speaker 2>a day's work right, Well, it didn't take too long

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<v Speaker 2>before the growth of new investors didn't outpace the needs

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<v Speaker 2>of existing investors to get paid out. Predictably, he went

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<v Speaker 2>to prison and a whole bunch of folks lost their

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<v Speaker 2>life savings. His devious nature and attitude out lying ruined

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people. We generally despise dishonest people, at

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<v Speaker 2>least we present that image, but when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>political tribalism, which just folks we like, we can overlook

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of obvious bullshit. In the outdoors, we do

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<v Speaker 2>this as well, with fishing and probably being the activity

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<v Speaker 2>that is most tightly linked to outright lying. No one

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<v Speaker 2>catches a big pre spawn smallly and actively tries to

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<v Speaker 2>underestimate the size, just like any of the trout dorks

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<v Speaker 2>here at meat Eater when they catch a cutty out

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<v Speaker 2>west generally won't round down the length of it when

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<v Speaker 2>they type out their Instagram caption to go along with

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<v Speaker 2>the photos of themselves with a fly rod in their mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know that not only are they better than you,

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<v Speaker 2>but also probably smarter and with just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more impressive manhood than the pond scum who would catch

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<v Speaker 2>a trout on a spinning rod. Is there harm in

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<v Speaker 2>those lies? I don't know, not really. I mean, who

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<v Speaker 2>cares if some Randos trout was closer to eighteen inches

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<v Speaker 2>than nineteen it doesn't matter. The same could be said

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<v Speaker 2>for rounding up the score of your bucks, antlers. Does

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<v Speaker 2>it really matter that your buck is closer to one

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<v Speaker 2>twenty than one thirty? Not really? But I will also

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<v Speaker 2>say maybe the reason I say that is that, at

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<v Speaker 2>least in my opinion, I hear this a lot, which

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<v Speaker 2>is way too frequently. Someone will say something like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that little one hundred and twenty inch buck or that

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<v Speaker 2>scrubby one hundred and fifteen inch deer. While there are

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<v Speaker 2>folks out there who look at deer that size as small,

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<v Speaker 2>they are in a tiny, tiny little minority. What's worse

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<v Speaker 2>is that most of the folks making hunting content seem

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<v Speaker 2>to be in that tiny, tiny little minority, but general

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<v Speaker 2>hunters find their way in there as well. To the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the hunters. Maybe that skews the perception a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of really really good hunters, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know very few people who pass up bucks that

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<v Speaker 2>are bumping up on the pope and young minimum. I

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<v Speaker 2>also know a hell of a lot of weekend warriors,

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<v Speaker 2>and none of them are passing those bucks up. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are big bucks to them, because one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>inch deer generally are not small deer. They just aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I know is that we are most likely

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<v Speaker 2>not going to start getting more honest about the size

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<v Speaker 2>of bucks we want to shoot or the size of

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<v Speaker 2>bucks we actually shoot. But I think that's a shame.

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<v Speaker 2>I shoot a lot of little bucks for a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of reasons, and a lot of people tell me that

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<v Speaker 2>they really like that about me. Some tell me they

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<v Speaker 2>hate me for that, but that's fodder for another podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we will collectively change on that front

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch. But let me give you another example

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<v Speaker 2>that I've probably talked about on here before. Several years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>while hunting in western North Dakota with a couple of buddies,

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<v Speaker 2>I crested a rise one evening and spotted a mule

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<v Speaker 2>deer dough browsing away below me. I was a mule

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<v Speaker 2>deer hunter in those days, which meant any meal deer

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<v Speaker 2>was on the menu. Because I was not very good

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<v Speaker 2>at getting close to them. Well, I got close enough

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<v Speaker 2>to that one at least to shoot at her, and

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<v Speaker 2>like I did a lot then and still do more

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<v Speaker 2>than I'd like, I shot over her back pere buck

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<v Speaker 2>fever or I guess doe fever, whatever, But she let

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<v Speaker 2>me get another arrow knocked, and this time I shot

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<v Speaker 2>under her, which doesn't happen to me very often, but

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<v Speaker 2>surprisingly isn't much more fun than air bawling high, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what my third arrow did before. So that MULEI,

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<v Speaker 2>who must have been drinking a little bit too much

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<v Speaker 2>of that polluted fracking wastewater out there, took off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier in that trip, my buddy and I were driving

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<v Speaker 2>back from a morning of spotting and stocking when we

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<v Speaker 2>saw some antelope in what looked like an approachable spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I pulled over, I let him out, and kept driving.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew it would take him a while to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the goats because they were pretty far off the road,

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<v Speaker 2>so I got quite a ways away and parked so

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<v Speaker 2>that I could see them milling around in the distance.

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<v Speaker 2>But I knew I wasn't going to spook them with

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<v Speaker 2>my presence. Eventually I saw them all get nervous and

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<v Speaker 2>start to peel away. I did not, I might add

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<v Speaker 2>watch any of them tip over after catching an arrow

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<v Speaker 2>to the lungs when they bolted, I drove back down

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<v Speaker 2>to wait for my buddy, who, when he finally hiked

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<v Speaker 2>all the way out, was sweating and not in a

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<v Speaker 2>great mood. He mentioned that he blew the stock. That

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<v Speaker 2>was that happens pretty often when you're bow hunting antelope.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't until I got back from camp after whiffing

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<v Speaker 2>that dough three times and the wild turkey was flowing

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<v Speaker 2>that I told my story about how bad I had

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<v Speaker 2>flamed out. And after I wrapped up my story, that

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<v Speaker 2>buddy admitted that he too had whipped three times on

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<v Speaker 2>those antelopes, and that he was too embarrassed to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it at first. Now you might be thinking a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things. First off, that my buddy and I

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<v Speaker 2>need to hit the range more, and you'd be right.

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<v Speaker 2>I can fall apart with the best of them, and

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<v Speaker 2>so can my friends. But you might also be thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>why lie about that? And you'd be right. But let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask each and every one of you something. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever just flat out missed a deer for no

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<v Speaker 2>other reason than you just didn't aim? You just didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do a good job of executing your shot, and instead

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<v Speaker 2>of killing a gimme deer at twenty yards, you screwed

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<v Speaker 2>it up. And that is that. If you can honestly

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<v Speaker 2>answer no to that question, my advice to you is

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<v Speaker 2>to keep hunting. That's coming for you, buddy. If you

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<v Speaker 2>can answer yes to that question, think about the story

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<v Speaker 2>that you tell around it. Does it go something like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there as the light started to fade,

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<v Speaker 2>and I heard a stick snap, so I stood up

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<v Speaker 2>and got ready, and sure enough, here he comes right

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<v Speaker 2>down the trail, right on my good side, totally oblivious

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<v Speaker 2>to me. And when he got to my best opening,

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<v Speaker 2>I drew, squeezed my eyes shut tight as can be,

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<v Speaker 2>and shot without aiming at all. Then he ran out

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<v Speaker 2>of my life, and I realized that not only am

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<v Speaker 2>I not a good hunter, I'm actually pretty bad at

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff. Or did you find a way to make

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<v Speaker 2>yourself look better. Maybe he came in super quiet and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't give you time to range, so you just guessed

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<v Speaker 2>and it wasn't right, guess wrong, or more likely, he

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<v Speaker 2>managed to duck the string matrix style, so that while

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<v Speaker 2>you actually did do everything right, because you're very good

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<v Speaker 2>at this, you were just dealing with a deer that

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<v Speaker 2>had unparalleled arrow dodging skills. Maybe you hit an unseen twig,

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<v Speaker 2>which is such a great excuse that it might be

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<v Speaker 2>the most common. And we've all been there. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason we can coct a story like that is because

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<v Speaker 2>we are driven at least partially by ego. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all of us, and I'm including myself in that

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<v Speaker 2>big time. It's just something worth acknowledging. It's also just

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<v Speaker 2>not fun to be a dumbass. Trust me, I've missed

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of animals on film. I know all about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of my biggest mistakes in the woods have literally

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<v Speaker 2>been viewed by hundreds of thousands of people. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 2>why I'm tired of the lying involved in hunting. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also because we all screw up way more than

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<v Speaker 2>we let on. Most of the time, when big bucks

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<v Speaker 2>or any dear we want to shoot get close to us,

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<v Speaker 2>we screw it up or at least don't seal the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'd be healthier as a group if we

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<v Speaker 2>were all more honest about our mistakes. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like this, which is going to be extrain example,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to use it anyway. Remember not too

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<v Speaker 2>long ago, like before and around Christmas, when the mystery

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<v Speaker 2>drone thing was blowing up out in New Jersey and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of all along the East Coast and actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of in the world. Honestly, it was a big topic.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you talk to people about UFOs and you're

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<v Speaker 2>kind of honest and receptive to it without being judgy,

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<v Speaker 2>you often suddenly hear stories about weird shit that people

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<v Speaker 2>saw in the sky that doesn't quite make sense. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have stories they don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>for fear of judgment or social stigma. But why does

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<v Speaker 2>it matter if you saw something in the sky that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't quite explain as conventional aircraft? When you start

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<v Speaker 2>talking about your failings as a hunter, people often relax

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<v Speaker 2>and chime in with their own stories because they know

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<v Speaker 2>most of us fail most of the time. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of lies in hunting around not wanting to hunt. Two,

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<v Speaker 2>the most influential folks in our space and in our

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<v Speaker 2>lives are the ones who present the image of the

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<v Speaker 2>terminator level determined hunter. Nothing we'll stop them, nothing can

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<v Speaker 2>keep them from scouting or hunting, or shooting their bows

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<v Speaker 2>or tinkering with their gear. They are single minded in

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<v Speaker 2>their pursuit and will stop at nothing. But those folks

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<v Speaker 2>don't scout or hunt, or shoot their bows or tinkle

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<v Speaker 2>with their gear every chance they can. They want you

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<v Speaker 2>to believe that. So when you sleep in because you're

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<v Speaker 2>tired from work or wrangling the kiddos and you just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't muster the motivation to go, sit on stand that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you're different from them, But a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>that is wrapped up in outright lies. And for your part,

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<v Speaker 2>if you do sleep in for some reason, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want to tell your hunting buddies it was for a

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<v Speaker 2>very very good reason, as opposed to just being worn

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<v Speaker 2>out by life and life's demands. Of course you do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay to be realistic. We're not curing cancer here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're hunting rabbits with antlers. And if you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hunt someday or sometime or whatever, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to lie about that. It doesn't matter, because all of

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<v Speaker 2>us sometimes just don't want to go, and sometimes we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't go when we could. Also, there's no need

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<v Speaker 2>to lie about the deer we pass up either. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why this one bothers me so much, But

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<v Speaker 2>I have an inkling, and you know how it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone in your circle will casually mention that they passed

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<v Speaker 2>up a young one hundred and thirty incher. This is

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<v Speaker 2>often something you hear about after telling someone you shot

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<v Speaker 2>a one hundred and ten incher, by the way, But

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<v Speaker 2>when someone volunteers up information on all of the bucks

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<v Speaker 2>they could have killed, I always wonder how much of

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<v Speaker 2>it is true. Did that young one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>inch buck walk by at fifteen yards and offer up

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<v Speaker 2>multiple good shot opportunities or did he stay in the

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<v Speaker 2>thick stuff at forty five yards and not really offer

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<v Speaker 2>up any kind of actual shot. That happens a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and if the ego has a little too much say

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<v Speaker 2>in how the story gets out, it'll clip out many

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<v Speaker 2>of the pertinent details that would change a for sure

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<v Speaker 2>filled tag situation to a cool encounter with almost no

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<v Speaker 2>actual shot opportunity. We want people to know how dedicated

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<v Speaker 2>we are to the big deal and how easy it

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<v Speaker 2>would be to kill the kind of deer that almost

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else would shoot and mount. But most of it

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<v Speaker 2>is b s. Kind of like if Mark told you

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<v Speaker 2>that he keeps getting hit on by supermodels, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you find out that one time he was in the

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<v Speaker 2>same city as one. Sure, buddy, Sure. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>we should try to be more honest about what we

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<v Speaker 2>have happen and how we screw up when we are

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<v Speaker 2>out there hunting deer or hell catching fish, or hunting

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<v Speaker 2>turkeys or whatever. I think that the more we are

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<v Speaker 2>honest about ourselves in that way, the more we will

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<v Speaker 2>find out that a hell of a lot of our

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<v Speaker 2>hunting brothers and sisters are in the exact same spot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that might matter more than ever, as we

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<v Speaker 2>were exposed to NonStop propaganda in our lives, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are exposed to strangers who all seem to be living

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<v Speaker 2>the dream and have amazing spouses and all make a

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<v Speaker 2>couple million bucks a year while saving orphan penguins and

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<v Speaker 2>Antarctica or whatever bs they want to pedal so they

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<v Speaker 2>can make money off of you while reveling in your

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<v Speaker 2>I think if we talk more about the misses and

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<v Speaker 2>the times we just got caught snoozing when the big

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<v Speaker 2>boys strolled through, or the times when the alarm went

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<v Speaker 2>off and we just weren't feeling it and realized that

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<v Speaker 2>another two hours of sleep was more important in the

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<v Speaker 2>moment than heading out to the woods to probably not

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<v Speaker 2>kill a big buck. Maybe we can't change the hunting

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<v Speaker 2>community as a whole, but we can take that role

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<v Speaker 2>on individually in our friend group or when we find

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves chatting about hunting with whomever in our lives. That

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<v Speaker 2>would be a start and kind of a relief for

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people to hear that not only are

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<v Speaker 2>they not alone in their screw ups, but there are

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<v Speaker 2>other people who are so comfortable with it they don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel the need to hide it to lie about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that'd be a bad thing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of us would really benefit from being

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of that. So let's all be a

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<v Speaker 2>little more honest, shall we, And let's come back next

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<v Speaker 2>week because I'm going to talk about the spring Woods

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<v Speaker 2>deer trails and why my scouting efforts now often yield

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<v Speaker 2>good stand sites come full That's it for the week.

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