WEBVTT - Patriots Unfiltered 7/21: Training Camp Preview, Positional Breakdowns, Recent Roster Moves

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<v Speaker 2>The World's a ridge and podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered,

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta lead Spain, finish it off, because man, these guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like great, You've gotta put them down and

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<v Speaker 3>then you got to put them down again. The clockhead zero, well,

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<v Speaker 3>sorry until the clockheads somewhere in the late nineties, right

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<v Speaker 3>your truck.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I don't know if you've made that announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a truck, well, chuck guy, okay for f

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty so nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, technically my wife's car, so I'm trying to decide that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she likes a big rock.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, why are they trying to put more people.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the DMV? You've heard all heard that ad on.

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<v Speaker 4>To be like I can't stamp it. I like, I

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<v Speaker 4>got it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the woman who sings?

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<v Speaker 2>Really, when I watched The Red six, I yell at yah.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife says, you know they can't hear you. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>they can't their pipes because it was pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't even.

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<v Speaker 2>Know if i'd have fall pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen him?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like all slurve and really yeah, like was he

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<v Speaker 2>junk fifty miles an hour? So would you rather someone

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<v Speaker 2>captures a video of you picking your nose and eating it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or all of your arguments with your partner are transcribed

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<v Speaker 2>and sent to their parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, oh I do the second one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too, because I'm always right. This is Patriots Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 5>Presented by Toyota dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here

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<v Speaker 2>at you Let's Stadium, and we're getting back to normal

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<v Speaker 2>and we're also getting ready for training camp. This is

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<v Speaker 2>this week. Guys are showing up. We saw some rookies

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<v Speaker 2>showing up today. Uh so this is it. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Mike, it's Matt

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<v Speaker 2>in the booth and we're talking Patriots again.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys are back.

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<v Speaker 2>See you guys on your holidays, So they say in

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<v Speaker 2>Europe you were on holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>Evident and I held it down before we left. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>you worry? That was in good shape. I heard about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Ratings reflected it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so yeah, your shows were, how you guys doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do during your go ahead. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a staycation. I didn't you know. I did a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of things around here. Uh, went on the Spirit of Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>That was fun. Some of the tool ships okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was a fun night. And went down

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<v Speaker 1>to Plymouth. A friend of mine as a beach house

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<v Speaker 1>down there. Spent the day down and that was good time.

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<v Speaker 1>But nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the baby?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any science call right, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see the bait. You gotta see the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>The baby?

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<v Speaker 1>What is so great about the bit?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That was about it. I did a couple of radio hits,

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<v Speaker 1>as as you like to say, on the sad, sad

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<v Speaker 1>holiday fill in host time.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing sadder than the holiday fill in host.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nothing more necessary for me though, the sad holiday filling.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah sure, Evan, what about you?

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<v Speaker 6>Spent a week on the vineyard, which was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereabouts on the vineyard.

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<v Speaker 6>Our house we got an airbnb, not like a big house,

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<v Speaker 6>but we were in Oak Bluffs this year.

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<v Speaker 4>But we you know, we pop around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's your favorite?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Been to the vineyards since I was in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>so I have no idea, what's going on there?

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<v Speaker 7>What's your best restaurant that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to home?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>So, Actually, we tried a new restaurant this year that

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<v Speaker 6>that quickly arose up the list.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll give them a shout out.

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<v Speaker 6>Pawnee House and Oak Bluffs and they have great food there,

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<v Speaker 6>great like kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Latin American flavor.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say I had a rice and beans bowl

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<v Speaker 6>that was fantastic, But I would say honey House is

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<v Speaker 6>probably right at the top of our list now. It's

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<v Speaker 6>one of our new favorites. We went twice. Actually, we

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<v Speaker 6>liked it so much.

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<v Speaker 7>Does a rice and bean bowls sound good to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I need a little steak in there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it had.

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<v Speaker 6>Had sausage actually okay, and it was really really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't prove. I don't know if that would

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<v Speaker 1>surprise you, but I have a every once in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't. It's got to have meat it I don't need. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would definitely have to have either steak or chicken. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I don't mind a rice bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. There.

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<v Speaker 6>We also had a place called the Covington. It was

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<v Speaker 6>an Eggertown right on the main street and Eggertown and

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<v Speaker 6>different another new place that we tried. But like if

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<v Speaker 6>you want, like the o G places like Nancy's Lookout Tavern,

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<v Speaker 6>those places are all really good too, and those will

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<v Speaker 6>have more you know, Pol's Burgers and things like that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, but like that, the new places were good

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<v Speaker 6>this year. I feel like the it's becoming a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit more of a vacation destination versus like, oh I

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<v Speaker 6>have a buddy who has a house there, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>or something like that. And so the restaurants were seeing

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<v Speaker 6>over the years like they're getting nicer and nicer, like

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<v Speaker 6>dinner style restaurants that people go on on vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was pretty good, Coop, all right, Duce and

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<v Speaker 2>I were here with Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was what was the theme of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it was a lot of World Cup and everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>everything but football.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was funny. Like I ended up golfing. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the last thing I did on my vacation. I

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<v Speaker 1>golfed on Sunday. So I watched all those matches and

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<v Speaker 1>I did watch a I mean I don't know, probably

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<v Speaker 1>more than a dozen, I would say, of those matches,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't see one second of the final. No wow.

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<v Speaker 7>I watched and I watched it.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched most of the final, but yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I just it's one of those things we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about. Was Spain dominated the whole time, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, man, if this gets the penalty case, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got a chance.

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<v Speaker 7>Well this is what Argentina's been doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But Spain is just a great defense, and so they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't get away with it.

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<v Speaker 6>They they had a few, they had one goal allowed,

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<v Speaker 6>one goal the entire tournament. Yeah, not just in one

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<v Speaker 6>goal the entire tournament. Belgium scored against them, the only

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<v Speaker 6>goal they allowed the entire tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was telling me that Argentina didn't even have a

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<v Speaker 1>shot on goal till late the nineties. Oh, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't even have one at home. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know if that was now, it was late.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, the World Cup has gone. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>good World Cup. I'll give fee for their props. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're on to football here, just so you know. We're

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<v Speaker 2>on our regular schedule this week, twelve to two, Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>and Thursday, Catch twenty two on Wednesday twelve to two,

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<v Speaker 2>but we'll also be live on Saturday for the practice,

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<v Speaker 2>So starting at about nine to forty five. On Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be live through practice until they tell us we

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<v Speaker 2>have to turn our cameras off. So looking forward to

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<v Speaker 2>that on Saturday to kick off practice, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be back on the thirtieth for the first day of

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<v Speaker 2>pads Thursday, I believe thuresday, so well again, we'll be

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<v Speaker 2>live on that Thursday, and then joint practices down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>But much more to come there. But so Tuesday Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>this week and Saturday bonus, and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Will maintain our Tuesday Thursday schedule during camp. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>those games, most of those shows will be from one

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<v Speaker 1>to three. We will have a slight time change this week,

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<v Speaker 1>as Fred said, is normal. Next week when there's a

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<v Speaker 1>day of practice that we have a show, that show

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<v Speaker 1>will be pushed back an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because practices are in the morning. Give these guys

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<v Speaker 2>time to watch practice, do the post practice stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, we'll go on at one o'clock and

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<v Speaker 2>go right into what we saw.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, and we'll have a quick camp cast videost

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<v Speaker 3>alway good way, So you want a five minute breakdown

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<v Speaker 3>of what we saw, we'll bang those out too. So

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<v Speaker 3>now it's hard to believe it's back already. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's happens quick. Excited to see this new team Forest

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<v Speaker 3>and Foxboro. Of course, came out on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>We came on a Friday. Got about eighty thousand people

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<v Speaker 2>have watched it so far. Everyone loves it, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure we'll pick up more. Another episode will

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<v Speaker 2>be coming out before the season. Yeah, so we're we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing it. And what we hope to do this season

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<v Speaker 2>with Forge that's going to be different from last season

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<v Speaker 2>is we'll have some sprinkled out throughout the season, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get in season Forged as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to Have though, I just my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>part of all that is just anytime you get to

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<v Speaker 3>hear Rabel talk to the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was my same observation.

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<v Speaker 3>From when Bill did the NFL Film's Football Life and

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<v Speaker 3>in the two thousand and nine season. Any chance I

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<v Speaker 3>get to hear a coach talking to their team and

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<v Speaker 3>how they're trying to motivate them, what they're highlighting is

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<v Speaker 3>being important.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's my favorite part.

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<v Speaker 3>And just you know, as Ev was saying, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>you can see why Rabel commands a room the way

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<v Speaker 3>he does and why guys want to play for him.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just sc He seems to know the

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<v Speaker 3>feel of the team. And it just comes back to me,

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<v Speaker 3>how is this season going to be special? Last year

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<v Speaker 3>which just so special? There were so many little things

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<v Speaker 3>Drake Drake May May that thing happened, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just all the good vibes that seemed to continue to build.

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<v Speaker 3>Really felt like it kind of peaked for me around

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<v Speaker 3>that Giants game. You know, when it was here, the

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<v Speaker 3>atmosphere was electric. But how are they going to recapture

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<v Speaker 3>some of that magic this year?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>And how do you is it seems so organic to

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<v Speaker 3>me last year, things like the Warriors and all that

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that happened. It never felt forced like oh we

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<v Speaker 3>need a team motto. You know, it's these things kind

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<v Speaker 3>of just happened, right, So can they do it again?

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<v Speaker 3>Can they find that kind of special vibe?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I do think Digs like the organic stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>me was the stuff that Digs sort of started at

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<v Speaker 1>this time we always last year and kind yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I think that you know, the way he sort

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<v Speaker 1>of took ownership of that wide receiver room and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as you got to you know, like in Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see it on the field, manifested on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he got the team ready to go, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was really organic. I'm not as much

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<v Speaker 1>of a sucker for the other stuff as you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the the road thing, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like to me, like, they played really well. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's going to be difficult to duplicate because I

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<v Speaker 1>think Diggs was a big part of that and he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and he's not there. Now. I'm not questioning

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<v Speaker 1>why Diggs isn't here. I mean, I think we kind

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<v Speaker 1>of all have an idea of why that is. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they upgraded, to be honest with you, in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of talent. But it will be interesting to see how

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<v Speaker 1>they replace that off the field.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the biggest like non football thing, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 6>how do they kind of go about creating that energy

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<v Speaker 6>again that they had last year. And nothing'll happen, It's

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<v Speaker 6>not going to be exactly like last year. But at

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<v Speaker 6>the same time, that was such a big part of

0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.079
<v Speaker 6>why they kind of overachieved, was because they had this

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<v Speaker 6>sort of galvanizing feeling to them. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 6>best locker rooms I've ever been in, Like just the

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<v Speaker 6>vibe every day when we got to go in there,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, can you recreate that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or you know, are they just better?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 6>I think that that's part of it too, is that

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<v Speaker 6>they might just be more talented this year than they

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<v Speaker 6>were last year, and that might help it out as well.

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<v Speaker 4>But how does Vrabel?

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<v Speaker 6>What are the vrabelisms that he's able to come up with?

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<v Speaker 2>One that I got one that struck me from at

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<v Speaker 2>least that first episode of Forge is journey. So he

0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.240
<v Speaker 2>stressed that each guy, you are all gonna have your

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<v Speaker 2>own journey that you're in charge of. Uh So, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was kind of a theme that I had.

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<v Speaker 2>But then if everybody has their own journey, the team

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<v Speaker 2>also has a journey, So what will be this season's journey?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I agree with Paul's bagger point though,

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<v Speaker 3>is that it's all fueled by winning and success, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's and that then its just it started

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<v Speaker 3>the snowball, you know, And I think that's you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not saying these are the little fun slogans are why

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<v Speaker 3>you're winning games, But that's the byproduct of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it all feeds into it and you get that

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<v Speaker 3>vibe that you felt like in that Giants game where

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, this team is just right and high right now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and then they fought some injuries and things

0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.760
<v Speaker 3>were tough. But you know, I just I that that

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<v Speaker 3>to me is exciting. And I mean, and then just

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to the football part of it, as

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<v Speaker 3>Paul like, just the talent on the field, That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see this week, aj Brown out there

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<v Speaker 3>on the field, you know. And I mean, of course

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<v Speaker 3>the first thing is, of course, where's Gonzales and where's

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<v Speaker 3>gay backets?

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the first two pieces that I'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you talked about who's going to emerge

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<v Speaker 2>as a leader to kind of take the place of Diggs.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bayered looks like already he's vocal and will

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<v Speaker 2>be part of that. I think Woodson also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you might see him kind of emerge a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. He seems to have a confidence about him

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<v Speaker 2>even as a second year player. That really's coming through

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<v Speaker 2>for me anyway. On offense, not sure, not true. I mean,

0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.040
<v Speaker 2>obviously Drake may but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's the answer because you know, now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>year three with a great year under his belt, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you already sort of took some ownership of that

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<v Speaker 1>last year. You guys agree, you know, like that ownership

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<v Speaker 1>of the offense. I think he'll be that much more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in year two of the system, I think. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should see more on that's on that

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<v Speaker 1>part of the leadership part of.

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<v Speaker 3>It from mey, Yeah, you know, just being the conductor

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<v Speaker 3>of the offense and you know, getting the ball out

0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.800
<v Speaker 3>to guys. And I mean it sounds stupid because I

0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like we spent so much time in the early

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<v Speaker 3>days talking about, you know, we need to push the

0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:15.960
<v Speaker 3>ball down the field like this is you know, when

0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.800
<v Speaker 3>they were bad, like they just they had nothing down

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<v Speaker 3>the field, right, it was just a struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm almost looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like can Drake be patient and just take the little

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<v Speaker 3>underneath easy safe, you know, And they dig it into

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<v Speaker 3>some of his stats from last year over the last

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<v Speaker 3>couple of days, like, you know, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>An area I think he can improve, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a way that you can really turn the

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<v Speaker 3>screws on a defense where you know you're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>dink and dunk at times, you know, And that and

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<v Speaker 3>that I think is a weird thing to say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he can dink and dunk a little more,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think there is a time to dink and dunk,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, maybe it feeds into one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things Evan talked a lot about this offseason, which is

0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.480
<v Speaker 3>just tempo and you know, trying to push the pace

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit at certain times. And you know that's

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<v Speaker 3>that to me, will just show him continuing to develop.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we said last year, I remember Paul

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the Sea't going in and saying, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll win. I don't know whatever you said

0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.520
<v Speaker 3>like nine ten games like that, but fourteen I think

0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.800
<v Speaker 3>you were, you know, measured as I was. But you

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<v Speaker 3>said the wild card was Drake May. And if Drake

0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.320
<v Speaker 3>May played well, then you know double digit wins are

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<v Speaker 3>on the table. And you know, this year is it.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw that he has all the potential. Can he

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<v Speaker 3>do it? Tougher slate, a little more pressure, Teams have

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<v Speaker 3>more film on him now they're going to look at

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<v Speaker 3>what he did last year and say this is how

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<v Speaker 3>we got to approach this guy this year. So there's

0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:27.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna be some new things. You know that he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get thrown out him, He's got to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've talked about it before, and Drake has

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<v Speaker 2>talked about it, but the fact that he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>coordinator again that he had the year before, which has

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<v Speaker 2>never happened in all of his career from college on up,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's got to really benefit him. That he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to hear the same language, the same philosophy, the

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<v Speaker 2>same schemes, and he's going to be able to build.

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<v Speaker 7>On what he did last year.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the key.

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<v Speaker 7>It's up here.

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<v Speaker 1>You said it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got the physical we've seen it. He can do

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<v Speaker 2>it all, but we've got to see what he can

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<v Speaker 2>do in those most critical moments of the game against

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<v Speaker 2>the best competition. That's what kind of we're still waiting for.

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<v Speaker 3>Can I put negative deuce hat on for just the

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<v Speaker 3>one second, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Is anybody afraid? Is anybody afraid he's gonna regret?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying I'm afraid, but I just think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a worthwhile conversation to say, he played out of his

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<v Speaker 3>mind last year and it was unexpected the level he

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<v Speaker 3>played at.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a chance that he was punching above his weight?

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<v Speaker 3>And he's gonna get into more games this year against

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<v Speaker 3>tougher defenses, and it's not going to be quite as

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<v Speaker 3>good as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Statistical regression is different from like eye test regressions. Thank you, Like,

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<v Speaker 6>he's not going to complete seventy two percent of his

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<v Speaker 6>passes again, I think we can all say that pretty comfortably.

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<v Speaker 6>Is he going to lead the league in every category?

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<v Speaker 4>Again? Statistically? Probably not, but he might be better?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, and he will be better. The only way

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<v Speaker 2>he's not better from the eye test is if this

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line is a disaster, and there's no way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So he'll he'll be a better quarterback than he was

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<v Speaker 2>last year. May not translate into pure numbers, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to look at him and say he's he's getting

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<v Speaker 2>better mentally.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You guys really do set me up for these things,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you. Okay, I'm just back. I have to wait ahead,

0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. There's no put like what Mike said, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we can all agree that we think the world of

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<v Speaker 1>Drake May and that we think he'll be better in

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<v Speaker 1>the year two. But there's no Mike's scenario that he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to paint, you know, a little devil's advocate. Sure,

0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not possible. It's it's not possible, so like it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it's not possible that he completed seventy two percent.

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<v Speaker 1>We're fifty eight percent in the play. We're here to

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<v Speaker 1>give our opinion based on my opinion is he will

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<v Speaker 1>not aggress regress. Okay, but you said it wasn't possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, I said, unless the offensive line is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's going to regress either. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to get better. I think the guy's incredibly talented,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, I think all of us think

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<v Speaker 1>the world of Evan. You have some good stuff with

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers, though. I wanted to set you up for

0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.879
<v Speaker 1>that because you know, I get a popsicle headache, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some people might be interested in it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we well, Deuce and I did our written previews

0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.159
<v Speaker 6>and then the three of us did our video previews of

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<v Speaker 6>each position, and we released the quarterback one today and

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<v Speaker 6>I just looked into some of the numbers of you know,

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<v Speaker 6>what were some of the things you know that defenses

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<v Speaker 6>did against Drake May that he wasn't so good against.

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<v Speaker 6>And Seattle kind of did it in the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's the best defense in football, so when they

0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 6>did it and they did it well.

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<v Speaker 4>It didn't look good.

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<v Speaker 6>And the two big coverages that they called against him

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.320
<v Speaker 6>were Cover six, which quarter quarter half and we talk

0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 6>about that, and cover zero you all out pressure and

0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:43.960
<v Speaker 6>those were the two kinds of things that they jostled

0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.280
<v Speaker 6>between in the Super Bowl that gave Drake May a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a blueprint league.

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<v Speaker 6>Their teams are going to look at that Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 6>tape and say, how can we replicate?

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:54.560
<v Speaker 4>What can we replicate?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the Let's talk about that cover zero for

0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.080
<v Speaker 2>a second, right because during the Sea and now, granted

0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.919
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't as good a defense as Seattle, but Drake

0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 2>did have success when he was blitzed like he was.

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.080
<v Speaker 2>He had really good numbers when he was blitzed. You

0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 2>have to look at that offensive line and how it

0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.280
<v Speaker 2>was playing in that Super Bowl and you have to

0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.439
<v Speaker 2>say part of it is, I don't think he had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of confidence in what was in front of

0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 2>him at that point in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I think though when you talk about cover zero, though,

0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:33.840
<v Speaker 6>they're sending too many people, so you're not talking about

0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.760
<v Speaker 6>I know, you're not talking about actually getting hat on

0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 6>a hat at that point. I know, so you know

0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.160
<v Speaker 6>with Seattle what they were doing. You know, they were

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.240
<v Speaker 6>setting the guys off the edges, and in the Patriots system,

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.440
<v Speaker 6>you're you're locked to one side, you're sliding to the other,

0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 6>and then the back has somebody the back to dual reading.

0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.760
<v Speaker 6>If both guys come, you're hot, like there's nobody left.

0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:53.800
<v Speaker 2>And then then it's up to the quarterback.

0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:54.320
<v Speaker 4>And the receivers.

0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:56.439
<v Speaker 6>You know, the receivers need to know that they need

0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.360
<v Speaker 6>to side toust, they need to turn around and look

0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:00.880
<v Speaker 6>for the football. So you know that that's a big

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:02.800
<v Speaker 6>part of it too. Like you know, we can look

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.640
<v Speaker 6>at the all twenty two from the Super Bowl and say,

0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.240
<v Speaker 6>Pop Douglas is wide open down the field, but he's

0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 6>thirty yards down the field and there's a guy in

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.679
<v Speaker 6>Drake May's face in two seconds right, Like, that's not open.

0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.160
<v Speaker 6>So it was not blaming Pop, but just in general,

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.399
<v Speaker 6>for those guys supposed to turn around and look for

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.560
<v Speaker 6>the ball, that have been more advantageous than running down

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.879
<v Speaker 6>the field thirty yards in a straight line, you know

0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 6>that sort of thing. So all of those things to

0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 6>me are more chess match related, and Seattle executes it

0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 6>to a level than not a lot of teams can,

0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.440
<v Speaker 6>like they might face that in the season against Miami

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.480
<v Speaker 6>or the Jets, and and those teams aren't gonna do

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 6>it as well. But when you get to you know,

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:43.840
<v Speaker 6>we talk about getting against these really good teams that

0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.160
<v Speaker 6>that's what's coming next, you know, is Seattle Week one,

0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 6>and you know, so on and so forth, that these

0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 6>teams are going to have good defenses and they're gonna

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 6>be able to do those types of things. So those

0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 6>two coverages were the only two coverages that he had

0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 6>a negative EPA against. Cover six and Cover zero. Everything

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.360
<v Speaker 6>else he was near the top of the league, off

0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:03.200
<v Speaker 6>the charts against.

0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.840
<v Speaker 4>So that's what.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody's gonna call, you know, like that that they're gonna

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 6>get into games against the Patriots and they're gonna call

0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.200
<v Speaker 6>all these different things and see not only Drake May

0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:15.240
<v Speaker 6>but Josh McDaniel's like all off season. I hope that

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.919
<v Speaker 6>those two guys were coming for with answers, you know, like,

0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:18.960
<v Speaker 6>how are we gonna be this?

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:23.159
<v Speaker 2>So I'll just throw this out there, snap comes and

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.840
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden it's Cover zero and those guys

0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 2>come from both sides. How how is it communicated to

0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.719
<v Speaker 2>guys already in their route that they have to you know,

0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.359
<v Speaker 2>cut that route and turn like how how is how.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you do that?

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:40.719
<v Speaker 6>So it depends on the play call, right, Like, so

0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 6>some play calls have a hot route where one guy

0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 6>is hot and that guy you know you're gonna throw

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:49.199
<v Speaker 6>to that guy Specifically, other play calls, and usually with

0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 6>the Patriots, they have sight adjustments, so like when you

0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.520
<v Speaker 6>see a guy blitz over you, you're going to change

0:20:54.520 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 6>your route because you know that the quarterback is hot.

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 6>So those are things that just come with everybody kind

0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:03.879
<v Speaker 6>of being on the same page. And sometimes also you

0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:06.119
<v Speaker 6>could you know, use the running back. Like the running

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 6>back can either stay in the block, but if you

0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 6>see cover zero coming, you could also sneak the running

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 6>back out and try to you know, hit him in

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:14.360
<v Speaker 6>the flat or something like that.

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.040
<v Speaker 1>So it's not really up to the quarterback.

0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:18.120
<v Speaker 2>It's up to the receivers and who would be about

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 2>to recognize, Oh, this just happened in front of me,

0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 2>so I know, I mean, this is what's going to

0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 2>happen behind me.

0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:25.240
<v Speaker 7>I need to adjust.

0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:27.439
<v Speaker 6>I'd say all the above, and I think that you know,

0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:31.520
<v Speaker 6>not to always compare it. But the thing that Brady

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:35.480
<v Speaker 6>had was a James White, a Julian Edelman, you know,

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 6>guys like that that had that cerebralness to them that

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.560
<v Speaker 6>those guys were often on top of those different types

0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.840
<v Speaker 6>of things, and that's where this group needs to get.

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 6>There's a lot of young players, there's a lot of

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.399
<v Speaker 6>players that are inexperience in the system. You know, they

0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.120
<v Speaker 6>don't have ten years of data to go off of

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.399
<v Speaker 6>like those guys did at times. So you know that

0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.119
<v Speaker 6>those are the little things that again I don't know

0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 6>if every team's going to be able to execute it

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.280
<v Speaker 6>to the level that Seattle did, but when you get

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 6>into the season, they're going to look at it and say,

0:22:03.080 --> 0:22:05.720
<v Speaker 6>this is what gave him trouble, you know, in the playoffs,

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 6>in the super Bowl, things like that, and this is

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:08.119
<v Speaker 6>what we're going to try to.

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Replicated focus on pre snap and them giving him the

0:22:10.760 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 3>tools that when these things are happening, that they can

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 3>be all on the same page. And I think that

0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.560
<v Speaker 3>for a second year quarterback in this system, that that's

0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 3>a progression that you should look for. You know, I

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.399
<v Speaker 3>think last year these things were probably coming and he

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't have all the answers yet. I think he had

0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:26.919
<v Speaker 3>some of the answers, but you know, this year the

0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.600
<v Speaker 3>expectations should be that he gets them out of bad plays.

0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I saw Bert Brew had a report kind

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 3>of saying the same thing we've been talking about of

0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 3>what the expectations are for Drake May and your two

0:22:36.119 --> 0:22:37.399
<v Speaker 3>to really master this system.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know you want to see more with his

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:46.240
<v Speaker 2>legs the same or less with his legs.

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<v Speaker 3>Same, I mean about the same, other than the ball

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 3>should have been out you had a guy quick, you

0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:51.800
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't have to tuck and run.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the way you said that. I would say

0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:58.000
<v Speaker 1>roughly the same. But I you know, if he's passing

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.880
<v Speaker 1>up throwers that are there to run and it ends

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>up being the same running, like I would be sort

0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of disappointed in that. But the bigger thing to me

0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>is he's got to protect the ball better. Yeah, he

0:23:07.600 --> 0:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>led the league in fumbles. I think he had fifteen

0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>fumbles combined. Like, that's a lot of fumbles, and that's

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>an area Like we're talking about stats, like his stats

0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:20.719
<v Speaker 1>might regress, Like I could see him completing seventy two

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>percent of his passes. Again, I just can't see him

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 1>doing it the way he did it last year, along

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.679
<v Speaker 1>with the ridiculously high percentage of completions on downfield throws

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>like that, to me, is very hard to replicate. But

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you can be more efficient, and you can protect the

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 1>ball better and do things like that, even if the

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>offensive line doesn't come together the way we think it will,

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I, this wasn't like to me, a regression isn't

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 1>solely responsible at the offensive line, Like I have a

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>feeling Fred and I if these bad things happen, Fred

0:23:50.600 --> 0:23:53.000
<v Speaker 1>and I, you're gonna have semantic arguments on postgame shows

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.439
<v Speaker 1>like it's all because you know it's because of the

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.800
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, or like now he just made a bad play,

0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:00.959
<v Speaker 1>because both of those things can be true.

0:24:00.880 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about design runs for him? You want to

0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 2>see more of those the red zone goal line?

0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:06.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, red zone short yardage?

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean one play like kind of stuff. I mean,

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe being better on some of the QB sneaks. I

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:14.159
<v Speaker 3>don't think he was, you know, great, didn't have a

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:15.360
<v Speaker 3>great feel for those last year.

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. That's another spot I think you

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:18.399
<v Speaker 1>could know.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's a good sign that we

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 3>can look at the MVP runner up and point out

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.400
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of different things that we think he can

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 3>improve to maybe offset some of the situational things that

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.040
<v Speaker 3>kind of felt their way last year, which felt like

0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 3>they got a lot of breaks last year.

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I hope he keeps scrambling, keep running.

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Me too. I think that's a big part of his game.

0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 6>And I think that that's defensively you have to account

0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.960
<v Speaker 6>for it somehow, whether your pass rush changes, whether you're

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.840
<v Speaker 6>spying him, you know, whatever the case may be. I

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 6>think that that gives you a big advantage if the

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 6>quarterback is a threat, and it's mostly I don't think

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 6>that he's he's not a designed runner in my mind,

0:24:54.640 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 6>like he's not Lamar Jackson, where like you're you know,

0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 6>read options and things like that are going to be

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 6>a big part of it. He's a scrambler. He's like

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 6>a pure scramb. I'm one with you, and I don't

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 6>want to take that away from him.

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.520
<v Speaker 1>And if you guys remember, you know before everybody took

0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>some time off, they had that huge seth Wickersham piece

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you know from the Broncos. Did you read it? I

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>think you were away.

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:16.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was funny.

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It was way too long, and it was it was

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.359
<v Speaker 1>it was right up your ally because we're going to

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>have these paragraph along plays that we're just going to

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>throw them in there every time. We have no idea

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>what any of it.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Nobody works hard than Sean Payton, right.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, one of the big takeaways is something that

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>haven't just touched on about that being a huge part

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.959
<v Speaker 1>of Drake May's game, And obviously that was the number

0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:38.679
<v Speaker 1>one thing in the scouting report was they wanted to

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>make sure that they didn't let May hurt them with

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.360
<v Speaker 1>his legs. And there was I mean, in a game

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that only had one real scoring drive, the big play

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>on thus scoring drive that gave him the go ahead

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>field goal, that's the only scoring drive the Patriots had

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the whole game, and it was a twenty eight yard scramble.

0:25:57.160 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 1>So like, you can succeed the whole day executing your

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>game plan, let's not let Drake May hurt us with

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>his legs. But one play he has this, as Evan

0:26:06.600 --> 0:26:09.360
<v Speaker 1>likes to say, superpower, and I don't want to take

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>that away from it. I think that's a huge game boot.

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and I it was over then I didn't

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>care about that. But like they don't score, like they

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:17.600
<v Speaker 1>don't score well.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Best won the game.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But I mean my point is that let's put it.

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's say he got five yards instead of seven,

0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:26.520
<v Speaker 1>they punt, the game was over. It didn't matter.

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 4>I liked it.

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>But the twenty eight yard run. They don't get the

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>field goal without that, right, and that's the only score.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Remember the touchdown came on the fumble for Johnny. I

0:26:40.560 --> 0:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>almost said Jared stidhamy is going to call him one

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>of my pet names, but I probably shouldn't say that

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 1>on the air. The kid, yep, if that fumble gave them,

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you know with the scoring drivers like twelve yards or

0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>something like that. Like, so the only one drive they

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>had the whole day, Yeah, was twenty eight yard scrambled

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 1>for Drake May.

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 4>And flicker the mac hollins. Yeah, that was the other

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 4>big play on the on the drive.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 2>On the importance of the locker room, Travis at West

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Virginia says, locker room, schmocker room, It's irrelevant.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 7>I don't I disagree.

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 6>I normally a'm on that side of the street. I'm

0:27:13.040 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 6>the mad analytics guy that doesn't really account for those

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 6>types of things. Being around that team last year changed

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:19.160
<v Speaker 6>my present.

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I would just say I bet that anybody that thinks

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that way would change their opinion if they were in

0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots' locker room in twenty twenty four and then

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 1>again in twenty twenty five and didn't see the difference,

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:37.359
<v Speaker 1>because I mean it was apparent with guys like what,

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't Why can't I not think of the big

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>defensive line from Miami. No, who's the big defensive lineman

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that was here for the Patriots and they gave him

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the contract in Belgium on the best Godshaw, you listened

0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>to him in twenty twenty four, and then listen to

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:56.400
<v Speaker 1>like Digs and these guys last year, and you tell

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>me there's not a difference between that Keon White from

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, and then listen to the way they

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>talked in the locker room.

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Lash Well, I will say, though, let's just say anything.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Milton Williams and celebrity family feuture. Really I always saw that.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's just say, in twenty twenty four, Patriots win that

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 2>first game in Cincinnati, and then they win three or

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.119
<v Speaker 2>four more after that, does all of a sudden the

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>locker room get better?

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I think it gets better. No, but maybe they're

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>not bitching about the way they're being used if they're

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>winning right Like that was a big part of that

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>thing is there was openly questioning the coaching.

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.520
<v Speaker 3>It's not enough by itself to have a locker room.

0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 3>Everybody cares about it, and I think.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Polk and conversely, if last year they lost like

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the first four games, yeah, started as this is.

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Why I like it, so you can have your cute

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>little like things that you know, Mike gets excited about.

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Sorry Mike, I do okay. But you you go to

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo and you win that game the way you want

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it and the attitude you had going into that game,

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 1>like we're not afraid of anybody will play you anytime

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 1>anywhere and we'll in. You lose that game and you

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>don't get the same response the next time.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 4>The locker room.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 6>After that game in Buffalo was for a regular season game.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I had never seen anything like it. Like it was

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 4>just it was levitating.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>And you have some opportunities to that to that end

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>early in the season. Now Seattle and the opener. I'm

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 1>not saying like if you don't win it, that's it

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>o case, but you have that opportunity in Seattle to

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:29.400
<v Speaker 1>have a similar kind of win you go to, was

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it Jacksonville is one of those early season ones, you know,

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>good solid playoff team on the road. There's another one.

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:40.360
<v Speaker 1>There's three one on the Steelers Bills, There's another Buffalo game.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>So you have you have three opportunities on the road

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to beat solid playoff teams from a year ago and

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>again established that confidence, that swagger that you did right

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:54.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the shoot with that Buffalo win, because that

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>was kind of you know, it was a it's a

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>sluggish start to the season last year. It didn't just

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>happen automatically. Yeah, you know, they lost the Raiders at home.

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, fumble turned it over five times against Pittsburgh

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 6>and lost the game they should have won. But I

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 6>was thinking about that Buffalo game. That was one of

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 6>the most fun games I've ever covered. I mean, it

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 6>was a tree there. But I was thinking about Diggs

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 6>and the number I can't get out of my head

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.600
<v Speaker 6>is that Drake may completed eighty three percent of his

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 6>passes just Defawn Diggs last year, Like that is absurd

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 6>for a guy that was targeted as much as to

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 6>fan Diggs was. That was one of the best performances

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 6>I've seen from like a Patriot receiver and probably since

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 6>like Randy Moss honestly, maybe Julian Edelman in the Super Bowl,

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 6>you know, and he won MVP, like he was just

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.000
<v Speaker 6>on a different level, like I you know, it was unbelievable,

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.360
<v Speaker 6>and it was right out of the shoot in warm

0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 6>ups that he just came out there and he literally

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 6>almost like went to the like fifty yard line on

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 6>the Bill's logo and was like dancing in the middle

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 6>of the field like guess.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>Who's back, right, And I AJ.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 6>Brown's awesome and he's maybe even better in Stefan Diggs

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 6>talent wise.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 4>I just the eighty three.

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 6>Percent thing, especially, I can't get out of my head,

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 6>like how just insanely efficient that number is? Yep, And

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, how do you go about replicating that right

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 6>football wise?

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:15.920
<v Speaker 3>That Diggs was it Drake? I mean, I know it's

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 3>both of them, but like Romeo.

0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 4>Dobbs is not going to catch eighty three percent of

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 4>the passes.

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's why, like some of the analytics stuff bothers

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>me because there's a couple of things, and I've seen

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 1>this written in a few different places, how Drake may

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:35.200
<v Speaker 1>did that last year with absolutely nothing around nothing nothing zero.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I would push back on that, and that would that

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>would be exhibit A. Would Evan just explain, Yeah, okay,

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that's number one. Now, I do think he has more

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>around him this year. I think you add Brown and Dobbs,

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>that's greater than Diggs if you ask me, Well, we'll

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>see how it unfolds. There's no guarantees in anything, but

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I do think he has more to work with this

0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>year than he did last year. We'll see. Yeah, okay,

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>so I pushed back on that. The other thing is,

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I think people, because these analytics are so prevalent now

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>and you don't watch the games, you just look at

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the spreadsheet at the end of the game. Diggs was

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 1>like a fifty percent snap guy, right, little over fifty

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty five, And people look, well, Daves is coming off

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>of torn ACL you had a limited as usage. But

0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:25.959
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't tell the story of the eighty three percent

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 1>efficiency rate he had, Right, was that number one in

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the league?

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.520
<v Speaker 6>How you sort it by targets or you know, minimums

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:34.960
<v Speaker 6>and stuff.

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>It had to be for whiteouts, it had to be

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>number one. Yeah, right, Like that's like invaluable, And I

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think that you can quantify the story that Evan

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>told about the logo in Buffalo great, like your number

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>one receiver just went out and said, yep, we're here,

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>deal with it, and then went out and had that performance.

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, he had that kind of performance

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>in a couple of other big spots later on. Now,

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I've been critical, critical down the end of his postseason,

0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think he was quite as good in

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>the postseason, and that's been his m O. He kind

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of runs out of gas a little bit. He's a

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>little older now.

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 2>Was it him running out of gas or teams just

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 2>saying we're just not gonna let him beat us.

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, then you're out of gas if you're allowing the

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>other team to do But I can't do that to

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase or Justin Jeffersons. Teams have no, they.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 7>Don't teams have you know, I think.

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I better not be able to do it to a J. Brown.

0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I think in the NFL, if a team focuses on

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 2>one guy, they can shut him down, whether it's an

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 2>elite pass rusher or a wide receiver or running back.

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 2>But the good teams make them pay for that, for

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 2>that that focus.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 7>On that one.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 6>I think they're more equipped to do that this year,

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 6>which is where my optimism comes in, is that it's

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 6>not just Digs and then a bunch of guys. It's Brown,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 6>Dobbs and you know, Hunter Henry and whats.

0:33:57.800 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>All of that do for the running game right right?

0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 6>Well, that that's a big hope I think, you know

0:34:02.200 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 6>for us nerds is that you know, they saw one

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 6>of the highest rates of single high safeties in the

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.240
<v Speaker 6>league last year during the regular season because nobody really

0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 6>respected their outside receivers.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.479
<v Speaker 4>As much as Drake may made them.

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 6>Eventually, they didn't during most of the portion of the season.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 6>So having a guy like AJ Brown now who's a

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 6>true outside guy and not like a Digs who's more

0:34:25.680 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 6>of an inside player, at this point, do they see

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 6>a lot more too high safeties And then it's Reggie

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.759
<v Speaker 6>Gilliam and Remandre or Trevion Henderson and then we can

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:34.839
<v Speaker 6>run the ball at you.

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:35.600
<v Speaker 4>So they have we go.

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 8>We love it.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 4>More flexibility.

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 9>They're easy to defend, not anymore, baby, they have more

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 9>answers in that way to pivot, you know, like if

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:47.120
<v Speaker 9>you are going to play us in a too high

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.280
<v Speaker 9>shell because of Drake Mays deep ball and AJ Brown

0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 9>on the outside.

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 6>We have a full back, we have two running backs,

0:34:52.840 --> 0:34:56.040
<v Speaker 6>we have six offensive linemen that we feel good about playing, and.

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>We've got an offensive coordinator that can use these guys

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>figure it out like yet and in the lab.

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 7>I don't think anyone's going to stop now.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>They won't. They'll be lucky. Well it would be a fluke. Yeah,

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I think we've already a stabished. I think that's the

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>way it could happen, and then no one's going to.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 6>Stop us is obviously, I know you're being facetious. But

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.479
<v Speaker 6>top five offense in football, I think is in play

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 6>like I I really I think that they have that

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 6>kind of arsenal around Drake now that they can kind

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 6>of do whatever you need to do.

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if they could do that last year.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 6>Last year there's a lot of three wide receivers, there's

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 6>a lot of Drake may in the shotgun like that

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 6>drop back passing. This year, I think they can do

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 6>different things. They can run the ball, they can play action,

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 6>they can get big and you know, put big people

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 6>on the field and run it over, run over you

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 6>instead of just throwing it over the top.

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>If everything on paper comes to fruition is the one

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.359
<v Speaker 2>kind of maybe weak link is tight end depth.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 3>I was just going to say, it's like, if Hunter

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Henry gets hurt, I think it changes things a lot,

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 3>and I think you're kind of scrambling a little bit.

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I even think having Julian Hill that hurt

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 3>and now you know, it just puts a spotlight for

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 3>me on Hunter Henry. Everything evn't said. You've got all

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.120
<v Speaker 3>this ability to do all these different things. If all

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:04.560
<v Speaker 3>of a sudden you're you know, looking at Eli Eridan

0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 3>getting in there, or you know, Dupre or some you know,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 3>one of these undrafted guys from the last couple of years,

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 3>or even Pharaoh Brown, you know, it's it's clearly a

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 3>week link that they won't be able to go to.

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 1>So I just I'd love to see.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 3>One of these other tight ends maybe at least show

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.360
<v Speaker 3>some kind of signs of progress or hope that because

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like right now it's it's kind of

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Hunter Henry or Bust at tight end and it's all

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>on him, and he's you know, an older player's.

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 6>Got to be a move coming there. You know, they

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:32.279
<v Speaker 6>hinted at it in the spring. It hasn't happened. Yet,

0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 6>I wonder if they're going to give these young guys

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 6>at least the first couple of weeks of camp to

0:36:36.600 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 6>try to win that job, and then you know, we

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 6>get around the preseason starting around there joint practices. Maybe

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 6>they're making calls and bringing in a veteran.

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a little concerned about that, and that makes sense.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>They've seen teams do things like that before. But if

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>you have a guy that you want to be a

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>part of your team, I would think that there's some

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>urgency to get him in and get him acclimated to

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.000
<v Speaker 1>your system as quickly as possible. Now, there's always a

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:03.200
<v Speaker 1>chance that you bring in someone that has some experience

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>in your system, and maybe the learning curve isn't is great.

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Evan and I talked about that when we did our

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.160
<v Speaker 1>all Football show you before you guys were on vacation.

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 1>We talked about like the John Tui Spens of the

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<v Speaker 1>world and just the two just just chopping it up,

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Salt Peppa, you just chopping it up, a little talk,

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:20.640
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0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 1>having a good time.

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<v Speaker 8>Listen, I'm gonna process of buying a house. I'll definitely

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<v Speaker 8>Right right up my alley. I had a two good

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<v Speaker 8>questions one question asoud put Paul in one four all

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<v Speaker 8>you guys, my friend Christmas Paul was It's an odd question,

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<v Speaker 8>but I'll promise I'm making a point. If I were

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<v Speaker 8>to add ask you who is your you know, who's

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 8>the best basket player of all time? What would you

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<v Speaker 8>What would you answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Paul?

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<v Speaker 2>Best web player, basketball player, basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>Best basketball player of all time? Michael Jordan. Jordan's oh,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.799
<v Speaker 1>thank you. That's really not a yes no answer. That's

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 1>very subjective, but yes, that would be my I.

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<v Speaker 8>Guess, Michael, I guess I'm a little surprised because I'll

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 8>listen to one of the episodes when I was driving

0:40:29.600 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 8>back to the Hamptons and correct, Levall, I think you

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 8>said you rather go to ten super Bowls and on

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<v Speaker 8>the way three versus going four for four?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, considering.

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, So then how is in Lebron the goat?

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Paul Michael Jordan's right, I tested, I got your hair,

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>no player, but you didn't ask me. You didn't ask

0:40:56.480 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>me about accomplishments like I mean, if if we're just

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>like counting rings and counting like wins. At the end,

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Lebron's played longer, he has more points than Jordan's, or

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he's better than Jordan's no, like he just played longer.

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I think Jordan's better. He also retired in the middle

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of his career. He retired in the middle of his

0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:24.280
<v Speaker 1>career baseball. Otherwise you could he would.

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:29.399
<v Speaker 8>Have won you. Yeah, well, I guess, guess just win

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 8>three over four.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:31.239
<v Speaker 7>But anyway that.

0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of guys I would take Lebron.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, see, I didn't even think Bron's Lebron.

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I think they'll take Magic.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Lebron hater. I know there are a

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of Lebron haters. I just I only top five.

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.560
<v Speaker 2>He may not be my number two though.

0:41:47.680 --> 0:41:50.000
<v Speaker 1>That's Lebron I think is better than him too.

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

0:41:52.920 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, easily anyway, second play all the time. Thank you

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 4>for the call. You can be the biggest Lebron spon Lebron.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Where's he gonna go?

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Golden State?

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know what I love about this, that's the

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>trust that nobody cares.

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Nobody really does. But it doesn't make a big impact.

0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't his his group is putting out there like

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the rich Paul the decision this time. No, he's trying.

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>He's trying. It's the indecision, the ultimate narcissisy.

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:28.279
<v Speaker 7>And you're saying it does make a big impact where

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 7>he goes.

0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:31.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think it does. Why because he's good?

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 1>That's very simple one, the.

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 4>One in the bubble.

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't think that Lebron's like, he's not a

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 6>number one guy anymore.

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 4>He's not.

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 6>He's not your your your top guy on a team.

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 6>But if he goes to a team that has a

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 6>couple of pieces already and he's like the third option

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 6>on that team, and he's willing to do that at

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 6>this point for Philadelphia.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Threat, you know, Brown was the fourth best player.

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Threat.

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if Philadelphia works because they already have

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 6>so many mouths defeat on that team.

0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 4>But I think Lebron didn't he just go to Cleveland.

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 1>He might be nice on the list, and I think

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 1>there'd be no threat to win if he went there either.

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying, but I mean, just end your career

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 7>in Cleveland.

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>On the list, you know, that's mighty nice.

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 4>But that but saying he's not the second best player

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 4>of all time.

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 2>But I agree, like impact all, I don't think that

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>like people are waiting with dated breath to see where

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>he goes.

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 7>I don't think it's beyond that now with him.

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, if you're a huge Lebron fan, then I

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 1>could see you, yeah, you know, waiting on all these

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 1>these reports and whatnot. But like if you're just like

0:43:40.080 --> 0:43:43.160
<v Speaker 1>an NBA fan or a fan of sports, like you're

0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>not sitting around wondering chief's Lebron gonna go?

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.799
<v Speaker 2>And I heard like the NBA is waiting to put

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.640
<v Speaker 2>out the schedule, Yeah because of him? Oh yeah, what

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>does that mean?

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:52.600
<v Speaker 1>That's true?

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 2>If he ends up with Cleveland, then the networks can

0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.399
<v Speaker 2>figure out when they want to put Cleveland games on.

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 6>Because they have like their big mark He days like

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 6>Christmas stay and stuff like that.

0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.800
<v Speaker 7>All right, so they can figure they can change the schedules.

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Around they don't know they and then change The NFL

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 2>does it every week.

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:10.879
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that's hour.

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 1>That's one of the problems with the NFL is they

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>have no regard for their fan base.

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 2>Just make your schedule, don't wait for him.

0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He'll what did he just say that out loud? Make

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 1>your schedule.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 7>Just make your schedule. I'm not I'm talking about the NBA.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 6>I still not over that. You guys don't think he's

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 6>the second best player.

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>I think he's a great play. He's a great one.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm teasing you, guys. Just because I think other guys

0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>are better doesn't mean I don't think he's a great player.

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Anthony's in Seattle. What's up, Anthony?

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 10>Hey?

0:44:37.600 --> 0:44:39.320
<v Speaker 11>What's Fred? Deuce?

0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Hey?

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 11>Welcome back, Paul and Evan?

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:46.960
<v Speaker 11>Hey. Uh so you guys did it? You could you

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 11>You converted me. You know, you've you've eat somebody over

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 11>the head, you know, for long enough, eventually you're gonna

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 11>you're gonna leave it not And I watched the World

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 11>Cup finale and uh, it's you know, it's it's one

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 11>of those things where it's it's everywhere, so you know,

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 11>you have ample opportunity to to uh to get in

0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 11>front of the TV. So I went to brunch with

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:09.839
<v Speaker 11>with the wife and I told myself, I said, Okay,

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 11>I'm just gonna when I get home, I'm gonna turn

0:45:11.680 --> 0:45:13.759
<v Speaker 11>it on and if it's watchable, I'll watch it. If not,

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:16.160
<v Speaker 11>I'll just you know, change the channel. And man, it

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 11>was more than watchable.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>It was.

0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.400
<v Speaker 11>I I enjoyed it. It was a you know, it

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.440
<v Speaker 11>was it was a fun watch. I think part of

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 11>it was I thought that you guys a lot.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Actually.

0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 11>Uh, one of the things was the stakes. And it's

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 11>like a person who doesn't watch football, but then they

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 11>watch the Super Bowl. When you when the stakes are

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 11>really high, you know how much it means to so

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:39.879
<v Speaker 11>many people. You know, it obviously enhances the watchings. But I,

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 11>based on the newsletter, it seemed like you guys were

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 11>kind of either rooting for Spain or you thought Spain

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:51.359
<v Speaker 11>would win. And it didn't take me long to recognize that.

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 11>I don't think I can talk intelligently enough about the

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 11>game to say that they were better, but I don't

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 11>think it's arguable that like they are faster. It was

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 11>it was. It wasn't like they couldn't run with them.

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 11>And I thought Argentina's goalie had I thought you had

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 11>himself a day, but I just felt like it was

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 11>and by him. And then lastly, and I'll get off

0:46:11.480 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 11>the phone, and I love that it's back to football.

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 11>So I certainly don't want to high check the show.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:17.440
<v Speaker 11>But Paul, I thought of you, man. I thought of

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 11>you the first time that a guy died and then

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.759
<v Speaker 11>was magically resurrected ten seconds later. I didn't even react

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 11>when the guy hit the ground. I just knew. I'm like,

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 11>he's faking. These guys flop, but just in the flopping

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 11>in general is exhausting, and I wonder, and here I

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 11>am some non soccer guy coming in talking about the rules,

0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 11>but I do wonder if they have thought about explored, uh,

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.759
<v Speaker 11>you know, adding penalties for flopping, because it's like.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 7>Every time I get there, it's got to be egregious.

0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>They did it a little bit early in the group play.

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I saw that archaetimes.

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Give it to you, but I Did's a cultural thing,

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 6>like until it starts to be frowned upon by the

0:46:56.760 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 6>other players.

0:46:57.520 --> 0:46:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Who was the first flopper in soccer?

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.399
<v Speaker 2>We know? I mean, gonna soccer historian, tell me where

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 2>did that start?

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:07.440
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's always been a part of.

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 7>Our generation, but I don't know, like was it always

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 7>that way?

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I judge it by the amount of barrel rolls they

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>do after they go down right right right. It's a tough.

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.000
<v Speaker 6>One that you're not a soccer fan to watch the

0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 6>World Cup final was that's a tough first game because.

0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:22.919
<v Speaker 1>I had heard it was kind of dull.

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 6>I didn't, yeah, to appreciate one side well, but to

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 6>appreciate how good Spain was in that game is to

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 6>understand the defensive tactics and things like that, which is

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 6>not the sexy part of the game. So it's a

0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 6>lot like football, like you know, defensive battle like a

0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 6>Super Bowl fifty three, thirteen to three game. You know,

0:47:41.000 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 6>it depends on who your perspective on life on whatever.

0:47:45.440 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 7>I think of the halftime it works up.

0:47:48.680 --> 0:47:49.359
<v Speaker 4>I think that the.

0:47:50.840 --> 0:47:53.800
<v Speaker 6>What I don't understand about halftime shows is like people

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 6>that get so mad that they didn't like it. It's like,

0:47:56.680 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 6>for like you don't have to watch it, and it's

0:47:58.520 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 6>like fifteen minutes of your life, like, you know, I don't.

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Know, go to the store. I didn't realize there was

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:03.399
<v Speaker 1>a show.

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.560
<v Speaker 6>People just gets so like animated about how much they

0:48:06.600 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 6>hated and it's because it really was fine.

0:48:08.360 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was uplett, you know, it was Upbeataten

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>who wasn't from when Bieber.

0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Was It was a bunch of people pts Bieber.

0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 2>I got a little whiplash watching Shakira's hips, I mean, unbelievable.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 2>She's like, what in her fifty Yeah she's.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>Still killed fifty. He still chills fantastic.

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But when Justin Bieber came out. It just brought

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 2>the whole house down. He did a good way, comes

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 2>out with a guitar and he's like really slow, and

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>everything before that was like, you know, lively and upbeat,

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.440
<v Speaker 2>and then he comes he does his thing, and then

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 2>he comes out and Shakira comes out and brought it

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>back up.

0:48:44.000 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 7>But like, why bring him out? He brought the whole

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 7>house down?

0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.760
<v Speaker 6>Well you can. He has so many songs that are upbeat.

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 6>I don't know why they picked that acoustic song. No, no,

0:48:54.640 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 6>even that would have been better. It was like one

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 6>of his newer acoustic songs. I don't know why he

0:48:58.600 --> 0:49:00.759
<v Speaker 6>didn't do like one of his like you know, get

0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 6>the party started type of what.

0:49:03.000 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Like she will for something.

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:08.719
<v Speaker 2>She did the World Cups. Play every every game when

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 2>the guys come out, she did you know, she performed that.

0:49:12.040 --> 0:49:15.799
<v Speaker 6>She's she's the World Cup, right, there's a dumb person.

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Right, And there's always like a song that they do

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.480
<v Speaker 3>for the World Cup, right, like everything.

0:49:19.200 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 6>Ye Like, so Waka Waka is the most popular one,

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 6>I would say, yeah, And I was a little disappointed.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 4>I thought maybe she was going to do that mix

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 4>it in.

0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Because that's but I thought it was a really good show.

0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:30.160
<v Speaker 4>It's a banger.

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:32.719
<v Speaker 6>I liked it, but yeah, that's a tough game to like. Like,

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 6>the best player in that game was Roger, the Spain's

0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:39.200
<v Speaker 6>central midfielder. You're like, that's not something that it's not

0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:42.160
<v Speaker 6>like Messy or like you know, Lemna Mal up top

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:43.600
<v Speaker 6>like someone that's scoring goals.

0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 4>It's just the way he controlled the midfield is what I.

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Had n't watched much of thema Mal before that game.

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's another one like Messi where it's like the

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:52.839
<v Speaker 3>ball is just glued to his feet and he's just.

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Making little little moves.

0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:56.520
<v Speaker 3>But I did develop some of the appreciation that you're

0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 3>talking about ev with just the defensive attitude that just

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know the exits nose, but how

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 3>quickly they closed and there was just no space to

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.880
<v Speaker 3>breathe and they are constantly, you know, on top of

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:08.879
<v Speaker 3>Argentina the second gig they got the ball.

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was just it was interesting.

0:50:10.440 --> 0:50:11.600
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of the other games I watched I

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.960
<v Speaker 3>appreciated guys like holland the talented guys, but this was

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:15.680
<v Speaker 3>one where it was like kind of a team win.

0:50:15.800 --> 0:50:15.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 1>It's just like these guys are just dam that was

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.839
<v Speaker 1>the Yamal was the guy that I chose. Alex asked

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:22.839
<v Speaker 1>us if there was a player that we hadn't heard of,

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and again, I'm a soccer nubes, like, I don't know

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 1>any of these guys other than you know, the messies

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.399
<v Speaker 1>and the babes of the world. You know, I don't

0:50:30.480 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>know the That's a guy I had never heard of.

0:50:34.280 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 1>And I watched a couple of the games and I

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:38.719
<v Speaker 1>was like, this kid hasn't so.

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 4>I was glad to find out he was the MVP

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 4>of Euros two years ago. He plays for Barcelona, I know.

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's and I wrote that in my things, like

0:50:45.760 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know everybody knows who this is except

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>for me, But I chose that was the one guy

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>that in Dallas. What's up, Chad, how's it going, y'all?

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 12>I'm talking about bringing out something Fred send. In the

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.560
<v Speaker 12>beginning of the show, Fred was talking about he's not

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:05.400
<v Speaker 12>worried about anything on the offense, and I am worried

0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 12>about the injury bug.

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>You can weave off that on offense part. That's not

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 1>worried about anything. Everything's great, everything's great.

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, we're always it worried about injuries, But is

0:51:17.000 --> 0:51:19.799
<v Speaker 2>it really worth it to even worry about it. They're

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen, yeah, you know, and there's nothing you can

0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:25.239
<v Speaker 2>do about it, So like, don't worry about it.

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:27.279
<v Speaker 1>But if they if they stay healthy, I still I

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:29.879
<v Speaker 1>have other worries, Like it's not like, oh, the only

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 1>thing that can stop them is if they're not playing

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like no, like no, especially the offensive line. How's that

0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>all come together?

0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 12>I believe in laws of averages a little bit. I

0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 12>felt like last year were on the good side of

0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 12>the injury. Yeah, the good side of the injury.

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:44.759
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:51:44.800 --> 0:51:47.640
<v Speaker 12>I feel like we brought another guy in that's injury

0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 12>prone on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure.

0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I think so.

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.840
<v Speaker 12>I think he came from the Jets as well, just

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:58.360
<v Speaker 12>like Moses. Yeah, so that those make me scretly worried

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 12>because I think Gibson lash Yield was actually a big

0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:05.600
<v Speaker 12>miss for injury. I think our second second round running

0:52:05.600 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 12>back really didn't show up at all. That can happen

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:08.919
<v Speaker 12>the end of the year.

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't look at what anybody did with the

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Jets as what they're going to do after the Jets.

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Second.

0:52:15.960 --> 0:52:18.800
<v Speaker 2>That goes for Sam Donald or anybody.

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:23.000
<v Speaker 6>You know, Yeah, the one thing I'm I'm looking for

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.760
<v Speaker 6>in camp on the offensive line. And thanks Gatle about

0:52:25.760 --> 0:52:30.240
<v Speaker 6>this in the position preview that we did. Lomu playing

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:33.239
<v Speaker 6>a little bit at guard in the spring, you know,

0:52:33.280 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 6>perked my ears up a little bit because if Avt

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.640
<v Speaker 6>does get hurt, I think we all kind of assumed

0:52:38.680 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 6>that Ben Brown might be the guy that had to

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:41.439
<v Speaker 6>fill in there.

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:45.040
<v Speaker 4>But do they feel like Lomu could play some left guard?

0:52:45.520 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 6>And if they do, then I feel like you have

0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 6>a built in layer of depth for AVT injury at

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 6>that point. You know, Ben Brown has to play left

0:52:55.320 --> 0:52:59.120
<v Speaker 6>guard for twelve thirteen, fourteen games and playoff games and stuff.

0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:02.080
<v Speaker 6>That's a little bit concerning. But if your first round

0:53:02.160 --> 0:53:05.440
<v Speaker 6>pick is playing there instead and he's you know, playing

0:53:05.480 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 6>at a decent level, I feel a little bit better

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:12.280
<v Speaker 6>about that. But we'll see how much he plays there

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 6>in camp. I'm interested to see how much they cross

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 6>train him at all four spots, honestly on the right

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 6>side and the left side.

0:53:18.719 --> 0:53:20.799
<v Speaker 3>I will I'll just say, how's Wilson look at center?

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:21.000
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Is that a seamless transition? Is he you know, better

0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:24.160
<v Speaker 3>player there?

0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Does he? You know? Do we see why they.

0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Wanted to move him, you know, kind of to his

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 3>natural position. Is you know, is there a considerable jump

0:53:31.080 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>in his players in and.

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.640
<v Speaker 1>You you should expect improvement from Campbell and Wilson in

0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 1>year two. They should be better players. It's just natural.

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:38.560
<v Speaker 7>Yep.

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Darius and Louisville loved every fourge episode, but come on, Ford,

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:45.920
<v Speaker 2>only thirty minutes. That was a little disappointing. Well, just

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:48.840
<v Speaker 2>so you know, there's a new rule with the league

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:52.240
<v Speaker 2>that teams can't do more than thirty minutes of behind

0:53:52.280 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 2>the scenes type of content per week, so we're limited

0:53:58.600 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 2>this year.

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:00.520
<v Speaker 4>I actually liked it.

0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.520
<v Speaker 1>It's a I didn't. I haven't seen it yet, but

0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 1>it's amazing. You're just going to get criticism, Like I

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you how I can't tell you how many

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>people reached out to me about the ones that we

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:14.200
<v Speaker 1>did last year, like too long, this is really good.

0:54:14.239 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>It's way too long, right, that was way too long.

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:19.960
<v Speaker 1>This is way too long. Make it thirty minutes. It's like,

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>this is too short.

0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I thought it was great. I thought it was

0:54:23.080 --> 0:54:24.440
<v Speaker 6>a tight twenty eight minute it was.

0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 7>It was very good.

0:54:25.280 --> 0:54:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it flowed well.

0:54:26.520 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 6>It didn't have as much like I didn't feel like

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 6>I was there was any repetition or anything like that.

0:54:32.840 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 6>As much as mind as longer I would.

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Push back a little bit, I would have one that

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.080
<v Speaker 3>would be my one note was like, I felt like

0:54:38.120 --> 0:54:40.440
<v Speaker 3>we relived the AJ Brown arriving here three times.

0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I felt like we opened it.

0:54:41.480 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 3>With him arriving and like and then and when there's rumors.

0:54:43.760 --> 0:54:44.960
<v Speaker 1>He might and I'm like, didn't he already come?

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:47.520
<v Speaker 3>That was my only critique of it was Yeah, the

0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 3>open hat, Yeah, And that was a little bit like

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 3>where are we?

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:53.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I threw me off too, But then I realized

0:54:53.360 --> 0:54:55.520
<v Speaker 6>that that was like kind of like a montage open

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 6>of what the episode was going to be. H And

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.319
<v Speaker 6>so then because there was one speech that veryble that

0:55:00.360 --> 0:55:03.640
<v Speaker 6>was on the practice field that repeated, but it was

0:55:03.680 --> 0:55:06.279
<v Speaker 6>because like the ten seconds of it was in the

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 6>little opening montage and then it came back and you

0:55:09.600 --> 0:55:10.920
<v Speaker 6>saw the full thing later on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Time to take a break, Time to

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<v Speaker 3>And today we're going to talk about the running backs

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<v Speaker 3>coming back in with ramondre Stevenson, Trevier and Henderson kind

0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 3>of headlining this group. A little bit of transition though

0:57:42.080 --> 0:57:44.680
<v Speaker 3>we had Antonio Gibson briefly last year he got hurt.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't only seemed like, you know, they trusted in the

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<v Speaker 3>draft with jam Miller, but otherwise not really an obvious

0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 3>third candidate into that role. Terrell Jennings still kind of

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<v Speaker 3>kicking around as well. But let's start at the top

0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 3>with Ramondre Stevenson, who you know missed a few games

0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 3>with injury ev but overall he's one of the best

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.640
<v Speaker 3>pass protection and make sure you let Paul talk about that.

0:58:05.720 --> 0:58:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Paul appreciates from Wander his pass protection. But just an

0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:10.280
<v Speaker 3>all around back, you can kind of do it all

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and if you could just stay healthy, he's one of

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 3>the best backs in this league.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, down the stretch, he was one of the best

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 6>backs in football last year you know, a guy that

0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 6>was right near the top of the league and yards

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.800
<v Speaker 6>per carry, yards after contact, like all those fancy metrics

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 6>that I liked that he was really one of the

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:29.560
<v Speaker 6>more productive workhorse running backs down the stretch of the season.

0:58:30.360 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 4>They had the little fumbling issues early on.

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:35.200
<v Speaker 6>Especially that Pittsburgh game, but then he didn't fumble the

0:58:35.280 --> 0:58:37.960
<v Speaker 6>rest of the season, so maybe that's behind him as well.

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:41.240
<v Speaker 6>The pass blocking, you know, I think all of it

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.440
<v Speaker 6>kind of came together for him down the stretch to

0:58:43.520 --> 0:58:46.920
<v Speaker 6>the point where he really was the bell cow in

0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:49.400
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs and played seventy percent of the snaps in

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.560
<v Speaker 6>the playoffs, and Treveon Henderson was kind of an afterthought

0:58:52.640 --> 0:58:55.520
<v Speaker 6>at that point. So it's not a criticism of either

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 6>one of those guys, but if just looking at that

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:00.760
<v Speaker 6>duo or that tandem, you just would like to see

0:59:00.840 --> 0:59:03.680
<v Speaker 6>them peak at the same time a little bit more

0:59:03.720 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 6>consistently this year.

0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 4>I felt like last year they were kind of dueling fiddles,

0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 4>like it was.

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 6>Travon Henderson was hot for a couple of weeks, then

0:59:11.240 --> 0:59:12.680
<v Speaker 6>Ramandre was hot for a couple.

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 4>Of weeks, but they never really had them both rolling at.

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 6>The same time to really truly be that one two punch,

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.280
<v Speaker 6>But I don't know what more you could have asked

0:59:20.320 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 6>for Ramandri and Stevenson down the stretch of last season,

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 6>you know, last month of the regular season into the playoffs,

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:26.480
<v Speaker 6>he was excellent.

0:59:26.600 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to be really interested to see how

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the presence of Reggie Gilliam at fullback impacts both of them.

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>And I know there's been a lot of talk about

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Henderson maybe you know, maybe the lacking vision at times

0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and how that could help him, but I think it

0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:41.560
<v Speaker 1>might have an impact on Stevenson as well. So we

0:59:41.680 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 1>know Josh McDaniels likes to utilize that position. Gilliam is

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a really good one. I think he's a pretty versatile one.

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:50.960
<v Speaker 1>He's not just sort of a meathead blocker. He can move.

0:59:51.080 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>He's got some athleticism too his game. So I'm curious

0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 1>to see how McDaniels implements, you know, two back sets

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.320
<v Speaker 1>with a traditional fullback. Are we are we sleeping on

0:59:59.360 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Henderson eleven hundred yards last year total, you know, combined

1:00:02.520 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>between rushing and receiving ten touchdowns, you know, but quiet

1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch out and as you said, it was

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:10.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of all Ramondra Stevenson as you got down into

1:00:10.600 --> 1:00:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs and into the super Bowl. We saw him

1:00:13.280 --> 1:00:15.680
<v Speaker 1>this spring. The guy runs like lightning. I mean it's

1:00:15.680 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>you can just see the acceleration. You think it will

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:19.600
<v Speaker 1>be even better here in year two as he gets

1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a full offseason in the NFL program. But are we

1:00:22.400 --> 1:00:24.720
<v Speaker 1>sleeping on Trevon Henderson a little bit as maybe a

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:27.360
<v Speaker 1>year two guy who could really elevate and be that

1:00:27.480 --> 1:00:29.480
<v Speaker 1>one two punch with with Ramondra and be even better.

1:00:29.720 --> 1:00:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think maybe a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>Because you know, I was writing up the written version

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<v Speaker 6>of this recap or preview, I guess I should say,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was looking at the numbers, and led the

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<v Speaker 6>team in touches, led the team in yards, led the

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<v Speaker 6>team in.

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<v Speaker 4>Touchdown Cravon Henderson's right across the board.

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<v Speaker 6>And I don't think if you asked somebody, hey, who

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<v Speaker 6>led to the Patriots and yards, you know, total yards.

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<v Speaker 4>From scrimmage last year, that people would guess Henderson.

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<v Speaker 6>They might say Diggs, they might say Remandre and he

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think his name would come to mine, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>top of mind. But I think a couple of things

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<v Speaker 6>that you look at from his game is just sort

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<v Speaker 6>of understanding the NFL game and developing in that respect.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no doubt he can run like the wind and

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<v Speaker 6>has great explosiveness and athleticism and can make big plays happen.

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<v Speaker 6>But the vision between the tackles that Paul is talking about,

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<v Speaker 6>the pacing like sometimes I feel like he's honestly going

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<v Speaker 6>too fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Both as a runner and a pass catcher.

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<v Speaker 6>Pass blocking obviously is a lot mental that I think

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<v Speaker 6>that that didn't exactly translate from college to the pros

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<v Speaker 6>for him as a rookie. So all these elements I

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<v Speaker 6>think are more between the ears than they are anything physical.

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<v Speaker 6>But can he develop that part of his game. Can

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<v Speaker 6>he see the field a little bit better? Can he

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<v Speaker 6>understand how to set up his blocks a little bit better?

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<v Speaker 6>Those types of things could maybe help him elevate from

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<v Speaker 6>what was a really good rookie season that I do

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<v Speaker 6>think is getting slept on a little bit to a

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<v Speaker 6>breakout second season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, to me. The thing but Henderson is consistency,

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<v Speaker 1>like Kevin said, and if you look at the number,

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers are terrific. They were very concentrated in a

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<v Speaker 1>short amount of time where he just exploded, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that Tampa Bay game, you know, the Buffalo home loss.

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<v Speaker 1>He had some big runs in there. I think what

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<v Speaker 1>the coaching staff is looking for. Mikeabel talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a lot is more consistency to the running game, more

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<v Speaker 1>so than just flat out production. The numbers are what

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<v Speaker 1>they are. I think he had four touchdowns of fifty

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<v Speaker 1>yards or more. That's great. And that home run ability,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no one wants to take that away from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully that he keeps that while adding a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>eight and you know, eight and ten yard runs with it.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like a lot of the precisions on this roster, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, you get to the top two Henderson Stevenson,

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<v Speaker 3>really good, exciting young guy, promising some explosion. You cover

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<v Speaker 3>your bases. But that's where the questions start. And I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I put Reggie Gilliam in that group too. I

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<v Speaker 3>know he's a fullback with Brock Lampy competing at that

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<v Speaker 3>spot too. But you know, behind those guys, ev I

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<v Speaker 3>know you got some real estate on land Larison Islands,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm sure you can talk. Was that the best

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<v Speaker 3>spray here for my boy? But Terrell Jennings, you know

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<v Speaker 3>he's been around He's a practice squad guy. He was

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<v Speaker 3>brought up, got hurt last year, so he's been, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hanging on jam Miller. They brought in from Alabama who's

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<v Speaker 3>got some potential as well, and Miles Montgomery, the undrafted rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a mishmash. I don't know how that's

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<v Speaker 1>all going to play out. What do you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're putting all.

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<v Speaker 6>These names in the hat and hopefully pulling out an

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<v Speaker 6>RB three out of somewhere here. You know, I still

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<v Speaker 6>think Glenn Arrison's going to have his day. You know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's gonna have a say in all of this seat

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<v Speaker 6>at the table. I really just like his his pass

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<v Speaker 6>catching ability out of the backfield. I think he runs

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<v Speaker 6>with good power, good sturdiness as well. We saw that

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<v Speaker 6>in the preseason a little bit last year before he

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<v Speaker 6>shut it down. But I think that he's probably, to me,

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<v Speaker 6>the guy that has the most skill out of this

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<v Speaker 6>group and kind of excites me the most. Jam Miller,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, maybe a little bit more as well as

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<v Speaker 6>you know, as the second guy in that conversation too.

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<v Speaker 6>But I know it's not sexy, but it is going

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<v Speaker 6>to come down to special teams like the guy that

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<v Speaker 6>returns kickoffs the best, the guy that can play in

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<v Speaker 6>the kicking game the most. You are really banking on

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<v Speaker 6>Stevenson and Henderson being your your two primary backs in

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<v Speaker 6>this backfield. Uh, and the third guy is going to

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<v Speaker 6>have to find a game day role on special teams

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<v Speaker 6>and in the kicking game. So last year, whether it

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<v Speaker 6>was Terrell Jennings or Dearness Johnson or Antonio Gibson, all

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<v Speaker 6>of those guys returned kickoffs at some point last season.

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<v Speaker 6>So that's going to be a big part of this

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<v Speaker 6>as well. And we probably have to wait till the

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<v Speaker 6>preseason games to fully grasp that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I was gonna say. We always bring back

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<v Speaker 3>such a hard position, Paul to evaluate in training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you get into the preseason games, but you

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<v Speaker 3>got to assume that Stevenson Henderson probably not seen a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of carries in the preseason, so you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>closed opportunity probably for these guys Torell Jenning, TM Miller, Larison,

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<v Speaker 3>even Montgomery to get a lot of catch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the kick returning roll is a good point too,

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<v Speaker 1>because clearly they want to stay away from some other

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<v Speaker 1>guys and those those train wrecks, you know, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about you know, wide receivers too. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of depth there and maybe one of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys factors into the return game there. But someone's

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<v Speaker 1>going to emerge out of that group. And also don't

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<v Speaker 1>dismiss the possibility. The way they use the practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>now with all those spots, and you know, you see

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<v Speaker 1>teams effortlessly, you know, sort of navigating that throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 1>The third running back very well could be on the

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<v Speaker 1>practice squad for the majority of the year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm not too worried about it because they have

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<v Speaker 6>enough names in the hat and you see these teams

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<v Speaker 6>just find third running backs to the late draft picks

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<v Speaker 6>ud fas all the time. So even though it might

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<v Speaker 6>not be like an Antonio Gibson who has some proven

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<v Speaker 6>NFL experience, I think one of these guys, like Paul said,

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<v Speaker 6>will eventually emerge.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well that's the running back position.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel great about Henderson and Stevenson, but some interesting competition

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<v Speaker 3>going into training camp behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>And now great moments in.

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<v Speaker 2>History Richard and Prague. Right, Sin, please tell Matt Lauer

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<v Speaker 2>lookalike he's wrong. It's pronounced Edinburgh, not Edinburgh.

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<v Speaker 1>This just won't go all time out.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't finished time out because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know he's gonna Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was my more lenions of the email, the time out,

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<v Speaker 1>you read the whole thing as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I not an offer.

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<v Speaker 3>Fred hasn't read any of the emails, and there have

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<v Speaker 3>been that have said Eric's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You've refused to read any of those. I've seen comments

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter that's used absolutely refused.

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<v Speaker 2>The tour guide who told him otherwise was clearly a

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<v Speaker 2>major bell end. I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>That must be in Scottish frog thing. I just thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was funny, they said. One of the guys said

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<v Speaker 3>I was right, and I didn't even know what I

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<v Speaker 3>was saying. I was just kind of throwing like edin Burgh.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another great moment from.

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<v Speaker 2>All right back here on Patriots on Filtered eight five

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<v Speaker 2>to five. PATS five hundred is the hotline podcast at

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots dot com is the email address. Uh so we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking everything we were talking about. Somebody challenge us about

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan versus Lebron in terms of how many championships they

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<v Speaker 2>won and all that stuff, or how many they went

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<v Speaker 2>to Anthony says ten out of ten times, you take

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<v Speaker 2>more trips to the super Bowl as opposed to going

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<v Speaker 2>to less in being undefeated.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not up for debate. But that's different. That's a

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<v Speaker 7>different argument.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a different argument, but it is up for

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<v Speaker 1>debate because it's your opinion. Opinions are well by definition

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<v Speaker 1>for debate.

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<v Speaker 7>People can say that just to be demonstrative.

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<v Speaker 6>Alway, isn't that true if you're like tied. So I

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<v Speaker 6>look at it like medals in the Olympics, right, like

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<v Speaker 6>Brady has seven goals and he's got well how many silvers? Right,

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<v Speaker 6>but like that Lebron and Jordan aren't equal on golds,

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<v Speaker 6>Like Jordan has won more titles than Lebron, So like,

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<v Speaker 6>no matter how many times Lebron has been.

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<v Speaker 1>That's well, that's why Fred said, that's not the same.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's out.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of them are like four and four, but one

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<v Speaker 4>of them has been ten times.

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<v Speaker 2>And lost six of us more like the Montana Brady,

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<v Speaker 2>but Brady Montana is four for four.

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<v Speaker 1>People credit credited Montana with being four and oh as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to Brady's whatever, seven and three. I'll take seven

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<v Speaker 1>and three over four and oh any day of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that that's an arg that that to

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<v Speaker 1>me is not up for debate. But that's my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>So someone else might say, no, Montana was better because

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<v Speaker 1>he went there and never lost, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, debates what about all the playoff games he lost

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<v Speaker 2>that Brady didn't, Because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, that's my mindset. That's that's why I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>more impressive to go to the super Bowl and lose

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to lose forty nine to three to the

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<v Speaker 1>Giants on the way to the super Bowl, right like,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what Montana did in the heart of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that it was his fault. I'm just saying, like

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<v Speaker 1>Brady didn't have those.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, sure didn't. All right emails, Joe Wright said, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>the cute little things that Mike gets excited about are

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<v Speaker 2>the things Tom Brady credits for turning his career around

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<v Speaker 2>in Michigan and getting him on the field in New England.

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<v Speaker 2>Attitude and energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Paul, Yeah, Paul, be talking about try to kick

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<v Speaker 1>out my clanking bottles together, saying Warriors is not what

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<v Speaker 1>got Tom Brady onto about And that's what I was

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<v Speaker 1>teasing Mike about. So fun, No great movie I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>telling you that they don't have fun doing it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely fun. Just don't tell me that that's why they

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<v Speaker 1>be done for it, Like it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the act of the clanking of the bottles,

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<v Speaker 2>but just the camaraderie, the energy and the excitement, the friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, right, that's the The energy and camaraderie is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm interested in, not the bottles. Okay, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying, And

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<v Speaker 1>you can have one without the other. I just don't need. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>some people love that stuff. They eat it up. Matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, in this day and age in the culture,

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<v Speaker 1>where's that going? That's going viral today? And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>cute thing that people. It's just I guess I'm old

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<v Speaker 1>and like that stuff doesn't really resonate with me the

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<v Speaker 1>way it does probably someone who's in their mid twenties.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't resonate with me either.

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<v Speaker 2>But this goes back to when Paul played sports, Because

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<v Speaker 2>when Paul played sports, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>Like the raw ro guys.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I did not.

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<v Speaker 15>I did the heart you did, the guys that were

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<v Speaker 15>always like you know, I was, I was, well, you

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<v Speaker 15>don't have to be a heart o, but like could

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<v Speaker 15>but I was kind of an energy, raw ra guy

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<v Speaker 15>when I played.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you that because I didn't have the talent.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably why, if you want to go real armchair psychologist,

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<v Speaker 1>I pushed back on those guys because they represented my

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<v Speaker 1>own shortcomings.

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<v Speaker 2>The talented guys, these guys, the clappers. I thought you,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought you liked the talented guys, and you like talent.

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<v Speaker 1>I try hard because I envied them. But I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>try hard because I didn't have the ability to not do.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait in your life, what you didn't know, you didn't try.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried, I tried. I tried. Believe me, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a lack of effort away from being in

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<v Speaker 1>the major leagues.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what Tommy did, Debosa told me. Ever, let's

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<v Speaker 2>see David Wright saying, glad to see the full compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>How about each guy picking the player you think will

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<v Speaker 2>show the most improvement most, who who will show the

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<v Speaker 2>most improvement? I think that's an interesting Rookies are out

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<v Speaker 2>because they haven't improved yet. And it's hard to say

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<v Speaker 2>Drake because I mean he said a really high bar.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, a lot of these guys play.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think, if you think again, the numbers don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to improve, but if you think mentally he's approved that,

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<v Speaker 2>that to me, that's a big leap.

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<v Speaker 1>It just falls back on semantics. All I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>on the easiest one.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't even know if I believe it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say, Kyle Williams, I knew that was can

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<v Speaker 3>say I.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't believe that. You don't believe you did not say

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<v Speaker 4>that with your.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that out a hope?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a VA that's got a hope, that's out

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<v Speaker 1>of hope, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>But there aren't a lot of players I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you can say, like you really need something, Will Campbell,

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<v Speaker 3>Jarre Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Campbell is a good pick. I believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, that was what I might have picked.

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<v Speaker 6>I would say Craig Woodson, I think what's my pick?

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<v Speaker 6>The playoffs were the build and then I think this season,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I think he's got a chance to be stole,

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<v Speaker 6>but considered one of the top ten safeties in the league.

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<v Speaker 3>Question for you to it, do you think do you

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<v Speaker 3>think they're going to go back to a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more traditional safety roles with Buyered on the back end

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<v Speaker 3>and what's it's gonna play more in the box this year,

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I think that fits into your narrative

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<v Speaker 3>if he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna be around the ball a lot more.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I would think so, because I I don't think

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<v Speaker 6>you want Byered in too many man to man situations

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<v Speaker 6>at this point of his career. So if he ends

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<v Speaker 6>up over the tight end or something like that, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't love that matchup. So different ways to get away,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, around that. But Byered to me, at this

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<v Speaker 6>point of his career is a true center fielder, Like

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<v Speaker 6>he's not. He was kind of like Devin mccordy towards

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<v Speaker 6>the end, Like you're not going to put him in

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of you know, man to man foot races

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<v Speaker 6>things like that. You kind of want them just field

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<v Speaker 6>generally over the top of the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year is such a big part of their defensive identity,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if they went along wards, just that those guys

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of interchangeable and they were They're blissed Hawkins

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<v Speaker 3>off the edge, then Woodson's blitzing off the edge like

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of you know, it was very fluid, which

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<v Speaker 3>I would think sometimes teams try to get to like,

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<v Speaker 3>well how great, like it's gonna be hard to get

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<v Speaker 3>a beat on. But I think we have somebody as

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<v Speaker 3>talented as Buyered on the back end that you're willing

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<v Speaker 3>to miss that or lose that.

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<v Speaker 2>Staying in the secondary, John and Louisiana writes in there's

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<v Speaker 2>a debate going on right now and asks about how

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<v Speaker 2>would you rank these Patriots cornerbacks ty Law, Stefan Gilmour,

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<v Speaker 2>and Drell Reevs. My list is Gilmore Law than Revis.

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<v Speaker 2>I think with Gilly winning Defensive Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 2>that has them over both corners. Then ty Law because

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<v Speaker 2>how great he was in longer tenure than Revs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little biased because Gilmore is my favorite corner of

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<v Speaker 2>all time, but wondering where you guys would rank them,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not Gilmore number one.

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<v Speaker 6>I love Gilmore. Ty Law is the best corner I've

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<v Speaker 6>ever seen the Patriots have.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm younger than some in terms of patriot ty Law's

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<v Speaker 7>number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think ty Law's number one. I think Gilmore would.

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<v Speaker 15>Gilmore too, and there's three because of what the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 15>But in terms of like overall cornerback number one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, maybe you take his Jet's career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, if you're taking full careers for all three

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<v Speaker 1>of them. It's Revis law Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your impression of his season as because I mean

1:14:19.680 --> 1:14:21.760
<v Speaker 3>he's only here one season, Revis and it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a slow start, a little bitter.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the end of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Good. He had a better start to his career than

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<v Speaker 1>Gilmore did.

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<v Speaker 2>He was exactly what the team needed and it showed

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<v Speaker 2>like the defense wasn't a wary all season.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who killed him in Week one, first game

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<v Speaker 1>as a Patriot twenty fourteen, Former Patriot. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Parker, Okay, oh I am yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>He also killed Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just I see Gilmore check that might that

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<v Speaker 1>might be a poulism. You can get those mixed up.

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<v Speaker 1>That might that might be a paulism. I might be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of Gilmore.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Gilmore twenty nineteen.

1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:59.800
<v Speaker 3>But that front, front row seat to Gilmore. Disregard everything

1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I on the nineteen season other than I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>was amazing. I mean I remember that Cowboys game where

1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:06.360
<v Speaker 3>he was like you couldn't get away. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>got beat for a touchdown at Miami in his first

1:15:09.120 --> 1:15:11.799
<v Speaker 3>game Revs. And I was thinking, he kind of looks.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you ate that good, and then then he was there.

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<v Speaker 6>They're playing so much zone, and the Browner and Revis

1:15:18.960 --> 1:15:22.320
<v Speaker 6>and all these like they're playing zone coverage and Revs

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<v Speaker 6>is like, what are we doing? And and Gilmore is

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<v Speaker 6>the same kind of thing. They started off playing a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of zone and then they sort of figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>But I I.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Tyler is the best out of that Patriot

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<v Speaker 4>out of that.

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<v Speaker 7>Group, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, physicality, I mean interceptions and clutch performance.

1:15:40.479 --> 1:15:44.600
<v Speaker 4>Right like Alpha two, like just that shut down, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I even.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember him in the late nineties before. I just looking

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<v Speaker 3>at that guy and being like that is an NFL

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<v Speaker 3>cornerback right there, and.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just looking at it. His pick six in the

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<v Speaker 4>Super Bowl is yeah, iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey in Canada, I says, Fred, you were the only

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<v Speaker 2>one on this show who gets to talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox between now and Octoba.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely believe. He does believe, and he's proud.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan, this is Evan, Alex and Paul. You all waived

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<v Speaker 2>your rights to say anything. Evan said it was not

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<v Speaker 2>worth watching. Alex said, it's just a museum ballpark and

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<v Speaker 2>she's boycotting, and Paul said he did not buy their

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<v Speaker 2>recent success. Deuce, I know you're a one sport guy,

1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:27.400
<v Speaker 2>and you've probably been focusing on our defensive line depth

1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:30.800
<v Speaker 2>while eating your last lobster roll of twenty twenty six,

1:16:31.160 --> 1:16:33.599
<v Speaker 2>because eating one after the start of training camp would

1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:37.080
<v Speaker 2>be sacrilegious. Lady and gentlemen, start your engines the twenty

1:16:37.160 --> 1:16:40.920
<v Speaker 2>twenty six seasons upon us. Here are five semi bold predictions.

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<v Speaker 2>Patriots go eleven and six and win the AFC East's old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's not that interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Though Chiefs missed the playoffs. Again, I could see that happening,

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<v Speaker 2>so that doesn't that's not bold either.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see that happening. Is if all these reports

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<v Speaker 1>are accurate about Mahomes, I don't see that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>The forty nine Ers win the NFC West.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little bold.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a little bold, especially with the Rams.

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<v Speaker 1>Three teams are really good.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, yeah, I still any one of them. They're

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<v Speaker 4>the clear third team though.

1:17:17.439 --> 1:17:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Dolphins will be picking first overall, not at all,

1:17:23.200 --> 1:17:25.639
<v Speaker 2>one of the worst rosters in the league. And here's

1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:28.400
<v Speaker 2>one that Paul will get on board with Caleb Williams

1:17:28.520 --> 1:17:29.439
<v Speaker 2>is the league MVP.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bold, that's hold because he's not he's not consistent

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<v Speaker 1>enough to put up the numbers that you have to

1:17:38.520 --> 1:17:41.120
<v Speaker 1>because these guys don't crazy, So these guys don't watch

1:17:41.200 --> 1:17:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the games. They just look at the stats and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have like his completion percentage won't be good enough to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. He could play good enough, but the completion

1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:56.040
<v Speaker 1>percentage I can't see being like that gaudy seventy percent that. No,

1:17:56.280 --> 1:17:56.519
<v Speaker 1>he did.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he's got a bunch of yards running and

1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:00.479
<v Speaker 2>they're winning, right, he'd be in the mix.

1:18:00.520 --> 1:18:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they'd be like with him there. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in the mix last year. He did all those things,

1:18:04.960 --> 1:18:08.280
<v Speaker 1>but his stats are just kind of pedestrian. Because that's

1:18:08.400 --> 1:18:11.920
<v Speaker 1>complete enough, right? Can we go back by the ways?

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Wallace?

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Wallace? Can we go back to the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 4>thing real quick?

1:18:15.200 --> 1:18:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh? You can't.

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<v Speaker 6>So I just want to say, you gotta do you

1:18:20.400 --> 1:18:26.000
<v Speaker 6>gotta separate these two things like this. To me, the

1:18:26.200 --> 1:18:28.160
<v Speaker 6>movie that comes to mind when I think about these

1:18:28.200 --> 1:18:30.840
<v Speaker 6>current Red Sox is Major League right. They're doing this

1:18:31.040 --> 1:18:35.559
<v Speaker 6>in spite of ownership and upper management. They're not doing

1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:38.599
<v Speaker 6>this because the team is pointed in the right direction

1:18:38.720 --> 1:18:41.080
<v Speaker 6>and they like are getting the resources they need or

1:18:41.080 --> 1:18:44.240
<v Speaker 6>they're doing good things. No, they're they're this is unbelievable

1:18:44.360 --> 1:18:44.960
<v Speaker 6>what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't you think obviously you think that they're

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<v Speaker 2>playing way above their potential their abilities.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but I'm just yeah, but I'm also just saying

1:18:53.920 --> 1:18:58.120
<v Speaker 6>that they have my My frustrations with the Red Sox

1:18:58.160 --> 1:19:01.240
<v Speaker 6>everybody else is nothing to do with the players on

1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:03.920
<v Speaker 6>the field. My frustration with the Red Sox has to

1:19:04.000 --> 1:19:05.719
<v Speaker 6>do with the dude that sits in the owner's box.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's why I don't like. I don't want to

1:19:09.360 --> 1:19:11.800
<v Speaker 4>give him my money until he starts taking it zero.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny. I kind of agree with Evan, And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I made the comment like a month ago, like I

1:19:16.800 --> 1:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>just wish he would sell the team if he's not

1:19:18.400 --> 1:19:20.840
<v Speaker 1>really interested in trying to win. And now they're on

1:19:20.920 --> 1:19:22.680
<v Speaker 1>a winning streak and there's one guy on Twitter that

1:19:22.840 --> 1:19:26.839
<v Speaker 1>he keeps tweeting me sell the team. I feel exactly

1:19:26.920 --> 1:19:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the same way too, Like I want them to win

1:19:28.960 --> 1:19:31.680
<v Speaker 1>every single game. I think, I think this is unbelievable.

1:19:31.720 --> 1:19:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I was riveted to the game last night now, partly

1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:36.760
<v Speaker 1>because my son went and we were teasing them, like

1:19:36.800 --> 1:19:38.439
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be allowed to go anymore if

1:19:38.479 --> 1:19:42.439
<v Speaker 1>you break the streak. But we were watching it in

1:19:42.640 --> 1:19:44.679
<v Speaker 1>like these games right now, the last three or four games,

1:19:44.760 --> 1:19:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like electric in there. It's back to normal Fenway Park.

1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:51.879
<v Speaker 1>It's not the other team's fans creating all the environment.

1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:55.479
<v Speaker 1>It's back to the Red Sox excitement. But this is

1:19:55.640 --> 1:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>not a sustainable product. What's on the field right now

1:19:58.960 --> 1:20:02.200
<v Speaker 1>is a bunch of four players playing out of their minds.

1:20:03.280 --> 1:20:06.000
<v Speaker 1>They're catching every break imaginable. The other team made four

1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:09.479
<v Speaker 1>errors last night. The last out was an absolute missile

1:20:09.640 --> 1:20:12.240
<v Speaker 1>right at the shortstop to end the game. Like if

1:20:12.280 --> 1:20:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that's a foot up left right? Like what? Like, you know,

1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a whole different thing. That's what happens

1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:22.240
<v Speaker 1>in baseball from time to time. You catch fire, you

1:20:22.400 --> 1:20:24.880
<v Speaker 1>catch the breaks. It just happened to the Marlins, a

1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:28.240
<v Speaker 1>very average team that just went twenty one and six

1:20:28.320 --> 1:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>in June. They have the same exact record as the

1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Red Sox. They're not very good either. Yeah, like it happens,

1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:38.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I don't care it's fun and

1:20:38.400 --> 1:20:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I watched the weekend games. The Saturday game, the Abray

1:20:41.360 --> 1:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>home run was electric.

1:20:43.200 --> 1:20:45.040
<v Speaker 6>But I don't want to I don't want to get

1:20:45.080 --> 1:20:47.720
<v Speaker 6>it twisted because the emailer made it sound like we

1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:48.719
<v Speaker 6>can't say anything.

1:20:48.800 --> 1:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>It's like.

1:20:50.680 --> 1:20:52.800
<v Speaker 6>My issues with the Red Sox are not on the

1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:56.040
<v Speaker 6>field level. My issues with the Red Sox are above that,

1:20:56.720 --> 1:20:59.040
<v Speaker 6>which is why I won't renew our tickets.

1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:00.400
<v Speaker 4>I've flight out.

1:21:00.400 --> 1:21:03.960
<v Speaker 6>Won't until you start actually putting and investing into the team.

1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:06.599
<v Speaker 6>Why should I invest in you? That's how I feel,

1:21:06.640 --> 1:21:07.880
<v Speaker 6>And you know what my biggest fear is.

1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:12.400
<v Speaker 7>For So the Roman Holiday contract wasn't investing in the team.

1:21:12.640 --> 1:21:15.360
<v Speaker 4>Giving a guy a contract way too early before.

1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:17.920
<v Speaker 1>It's a small contract, like, what do you mean, Well,

1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.720
<v Speaker 1>for guy that age, that's a lot of But that's

1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:23.439
<v Speaker 1>what they're trying to do. Yeah, they did because they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to have a Mookie Betts.

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<v Speaker 6>They did it with Roman, they did it with Saydan Raphaela,

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<v Speaker 6>they did it with all these guys. Mayo, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>willing to sign early, they're more than willing to Christian Campbell,

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<v Speaker 6>if they actually like invested in real resources into the team.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a decent team.

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<v Speaker 6>They could make it really good and be a World

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<v Speaker 6>Series contender if they actually put it.

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<v Speaker 2>In and they're doing it without Croquet. He's he's been.

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<v Speaker 7>Hurt, and you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what My biggest fear is Trevor's story. My

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<v Speaker 1>biggest fear right now is that they think they're right.

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<v Speaker 1>They just you know, they just won whatever twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight or whatever, and they think, see, the first three

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<v Speaker 1>months were a fluke, the last three weeks or really

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, this is what we thought all along,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna continue to try to win like this.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just telling you, at some point the talent

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<v Speaker 1>difference between the teams that they're playing is gonna shine through.

1:22:20.080 --> 1:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>They know pitching, the pitching has been excellent, Fred excellent.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that Sonny Gray's this good?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>He's been good this year all I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not sustainable, is what I'm saying. And my

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<v Speaker 1>fear is they think that they're right and they've split

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<v Speaker 1>the add on. We don't have to spend money like

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<v Speaker 1>all those dumb teams that have good players. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do that. Fourteen in a row.

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<v Speaker 6>The last couple of nights when they win and they

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<v Speaker 6>show those guys in the in the boxes and stuff

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<v Speaker 6>like that, and I'm like, Paul's right, they're gonna be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, see, we knew you could see that shot they

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<v Speaker 1>had a preslo when the game ended last night, you

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<v Speaker 1>could see.

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<v Speaker 4>It right again. Yeah, like he's about to be he's

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<v Speaker 4>about to be tarps off.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, let me just say this in defense.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't let whatever all that's going on take away

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<v Speaker 2>my enjoyment of what's going on in the field.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're separating the two. That's what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't watch I did. You're boycotting the team. So

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<v Speaker 1>I I did watch.

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched this weekend all the fun young man.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I I've watched like every game last Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why we keep doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think what I'm doing is totally valid. Like they they.

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<v Speaker 2>Do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how much it costs to go to a game, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>but like just to.

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<v Speaker 2>Walk into the penalize the guys trying working their asses off.

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<v Speaker 1>On how many times I said I'm separating those.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, but he's not watching them.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally watched last night.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean? But but I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>I have watched and you know that I but you

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<v Speaker 1>know I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, but I'm not gonna watch when they're thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched the Tampa Bay series coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>break was was a lot of fun.

1:24:05.160 --> 1:24:07.640
<v Speaker 2>You can't resist the good bouncing ball on TV. You

1:24:07.760 --> 1:24:10.760
<v Speaker 2>can't resist I don't care what the sport is, see

1:24:10.760 --> 1:24:11.360
<v Speaker 2>who's playing.

1:24:11.840 --> 1:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you I could resist watching World Cup

1:24:14.160 --> 1:24:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Final games that evidently weren't sleep inducing. It were good,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was good. I would say that the excitement

1:24:21.560 --> 1:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>level of I didn't watch Sunday because I told you

1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:26.759
<v Speaker 1>I was out golfing, But I watched Saturday. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>the second game with the doubleheader on Friday, and the

1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:33.840
<v Speaker 1>game last night was absolutely riveting. It was a great

1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>baseball for a regular season game. Now, obviously I wouldn't

1:24:38.240 --> 1:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>have been glued to the if they hadn't won thirteen

1:24:40.360 --> 1:24:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in a row and it was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they won the last game after losing the previous two.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have been watching as intently as I was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sorry. When you win fourteen in a row

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<v Speaker 1>like as Bob Costa says, in that clip from Moneyball,

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<v Speaker 1>like the randomness of baseball like that to me is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>That's intriguing, that's like, how can you know? I get

1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>caught up in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to see The Odyssey last night. It was

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<v Speaker 2>really good.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't watch the Red so.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's yelling at me, my goodness, stop it yelling

1:25:14.160 --> 1:25:14.560
<v Speaker 4>as you know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a dark theater in your check.

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<v Speaker 4>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your movie review?

1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Excellent?

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<v Speaker 7>Movie excellent, Yeah, really really good.

1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to go see it. I want to try

1:25:23.040 --> 1:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>this for Stepher.

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<v Speaker 7>Nolan is a fricking genius.

1:25:24.960 --> 1:25:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, really, I go see anything he did Planet thing,

1:25:29.439 --> 1:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that one I didn't quite get it. Tenant. Yeah, I

1:25:31.600 --> 1:25:34.360
<v Speaker 1>didn't get into that one. But which one? Tenant? Christopher Nolan?

1:25:34.520 --> 1:25:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I had never heard of it? Very confusing.

1:25:36.560 --> 1:25:38.000
<v Speaker 3>But I want to try this new movie theater here,

1:25:38.040 --> 1:25:40.960
<v Speaker 3>but they don't they have good deals on tickets like

1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:41.919
<v Speaker 3>eight dollar matinees.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I heard. It's another uh in the growing

1:25:45.439 --> 1:25:48.360
<v Speaker 1>genre of its nonlinear jumps around a little bit.

1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:51.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just going you go back and forth in time.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the way he presented it. I really do

1:25:56.040 --> 1:25:57.920
<v Speaker 2>want to see I was the Cyclops. I heard the cyclops.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty cool. Yeah, I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't want to spoilers hunting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, case people forget that Achilles is dead.

1:26:05.040 --> 1:26:06.559
<v Speaker 1>The story has been around for about two.

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<v Speaker 4>How many people have been like, where's Achilles? He's dead?

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<v Speaker 4>He died in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually in the actual poem the Odyssey, Uh, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>part where Odysseus goes to Hades and he meets up

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<v Speaker 2>with Achilles and as well as some other legends of

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<v Speaker 2>Greek Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>Go watch Troy with Brad Pitt. I was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did is this a movie that you really should see

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<v Speaker 1>in the theater?

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<v Speaker 2>I would think so, Yeah, I mean actually it was

1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:45.000
<v Speaker 2>shot for Imax. I didn't see it an Imax, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can see it, and I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredibly well, yeah, like three theaters in Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 2>It's three hours too, so you know, tack a lunch

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<v Speaker 2>the days. But I I enjoyed it.

1:26:55.479 --> 1:26:56.120
<v Speaker 7>It was really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard a lot of I haven't heard anybody have

1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>really many bad things going to go see it? This

1:27:00.680 --> 1:27:01.599
<v Speaker 1>weekend was all sold out.

1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Everything all right, A five to five pasts five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get to North Carolina. Eldred's on the phone, what's up?

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<v Speaker 4>Eldred, There we go.

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<v Speaker 1>How are y'all doing? Doing great?

1:27:22.280 --> 1:27:24.479
<v Speaker 10>Okay, I'm doing pretty good too, But I got one

1:27:24.560 --> 1:27:25.240
<v Speaker 10>serious question.

1:27:26.520 --> 1:27:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, anybody worry about Gonzallas holding out if they try

1:27:32.080 --> 1:27:34.439
<v Speaker 3>to give him, don't give him to the stitches A.

1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Little bit mildly mildly a little bit, Yeah, worried about

1:27:38.920 --> 1:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>him holding out camp, not not regular season games, but

1:27:42.840 --> 1:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it might link that.

1:27:44.800 --> 1:27:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Because he's not going to do that.

1:27:47.439 --> 1:27:50.240
<v Speaker 1>A little bit for me, Eldred and holding out regular

1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:52.400
<v Speaker 1>season and if he holds out like hold, if he

1:27:52.520 --> 1:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>has a hold in in camp, I worry about him

1:27:56.000 --> 1:27:58.280
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily being ready to go at the start. And

1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:00.840
<v Speaker 1>that's when like hamstrings pulled and stuff like.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, and what's the deal with Akis? Is he uh

1:28:06.520 --> 1:28:07.000
<v Speaker 11>on the team?

1:28:07.080 --> 1:28:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And on the team we'll find out, I mean, this

1:28:09.880 --> 1:28:12.719
<v Speaker 3>is any any day now, you'll find out my prediction

1:28:12.920 --> 1:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>for acuses he'll be here and they'll figure this out.

1:28:15.720 --> 1:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean healthy.

1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean if we don't see squats, did you

1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:20.519
<v Speaker 3>see that?

1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:21.479
<v Speaker 4>Great?

1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:24.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean that's question one or two for Rabel probably

1:28:24.880 --> 1:28:25.759
<v Speaker 3>on Friday when.

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<v Speaker 8>Prescott, well, my prediction is thirteen and four and that's

1:28:32.280 --> 1:28:33.000
<v Speaker 8>a very u.

1:28:36.720 --> 1:28:37.519
<v Speaker 12>Thirteen in fo.

1:28:37.800 --> 1:28:39.519
<v Speaker 7>Okay thirteen and four.

1:28:39.600 --> 1:28:43.559
<v Speaker 4>I like it without training for DK, all right, thanks

1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Aldred DK.

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<v Speaker 2>But but we got a J. We don't need DK

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<v Speaker 2>all right, thanks Aldred.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the call.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see. Kyle writes in from Pembroke joint practices. We've

1:28:55.680 --> 1:28:59.200
<v Speaker 2>got three of them this year. Are infamous for having fights.

1:28:59.560 --> 1:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>We have joint practices with the Eagles, who haven't had

1:29:02.040 --> 1:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>a good uh split with Brown. So I have to ask,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you think the odds are we get a

1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:10.839
<v Speaker 2>Rabel versus Siriani the want to be hard oh scrap

1:29:11.040 --> 1:29:14.679
<v Speaker 2>during one of the two joint practices doesn't want that smoke.

1:29:15.479 --> 1:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>I think you have a better chance of seeing a

1:29:17.439 --> 1:29:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Rabel Sirianni altercation than anything involving a J. Brown because

1:29:21.600 --> 1:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>from what I've been told and Red, they love him

1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles. The Eagles love a J. Brown. Right now,

1:29:27.320 --> 1:29:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that Jalen Hurts and a J. Brown

1:29:29.600 --> 1:29:33.240
<v Speaker 1>are as close as they once were. But I didn't

1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:35.320
<v Speaker 1>heard a bad thing about a J. Brown from a

1:29:35.479 --> 1:29:38.360
<v Speaker 1>member of the Eagles. Really, have you No? I heard

1:29:38.439 --> 1:29:40.080
<v Speaker 1>all just glowing things.

1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:42.559
<v Speaker 4>What about Elliott Woolf versus Howie Rose?

1:29:46.760 --> 1:29:50.400
<v Speaker 1>We bring we bring Breslo in from over they like,

1:29:51.000 --> 1:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>don't put pres on the same they press.

1:29:55.840 --> 1:29:56.000
<v Speaker 8>Right.

1:29:56.439 --> 1:29:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to give Breslow as flowers though I

1:29:58.280 --> 1:29:59.599
<v Speaker 1>think he had a really good off season.

1:29:59.640 --> 1:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, continue I'm a little interested about Gonzales and just

1:30:04.240 --> 1:30:06.479
<v Speaker 3>you know, is there a certain point where the team

1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:08.600
<v Speaker 3>he wants too much and the team says, now, like,

1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:30:09.200 --> 1:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of a holdover from well, they're waiting

1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>for Witherspoon right and Witherspoon's waiting for him where I

1:30:15.720 --> 1:30:18.760
<v Speaker 1>came a chicken right now? The latest thing I saw

1:30:19.000 --> 1:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was that. And I don't know how someone determined this,

1:30:22.160 --> 1:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>but the line of thought is now that Witherspoon will

1:30:25.400 --> 1:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>be the first one to sign. So I don't know,

1:30:28.240 --> 1:30:32.519
<v Speaker 1>like they're represented by the same firm, the same aiden

1:30:32.560 --> 1:30:35.200
<v Speaker 1>as Reggie Johnson. I think, I forget I forget a

1:30:35.439 --> 1:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>c AA, I believe. But if you go by that

1:30:40.040 --> 1:30:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Fowler rankings from all like all the personnel people,

1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:48.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, Gonzales was three, Witherspoon was four. Maybe they

1:30:48.760 --> 1:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>use that as a well that's a I mean, that's

1:30:51.080 --> 1:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>just it's a little subjective list, but it gives you

1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an idea. So Witherspoon should go

1:30:55.240 --> 1:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>first and then Gonzales should re up them. I don't

1:30:57.960 --> 1:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know if Witherspoon is.

1:30:59.240 --> 1:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>That it's the same firm.

1:31:00.880 --> 1:31:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they have the same agent.

1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:03.720
<v Speaker 4>They do, so.

1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:06.280
<v Speaker 7>Make it complicates it?

1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:07.559
<v Speaker 1>I think? Because it does.

1:31:07.760 --> 1:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>You can't say to Gonzales, listen, let him go whatever

1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:13.160
<v Speaker 2>he gets, we'll give you five percent more, right, you know.

1:31:14.080 --> 1:31:15.640
<v Speaker 7>But if it's the same agent and.

1:31:15.720 --> 1:31:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Now and now he's saying, like, you know you should

1:31:17.880 --> 1:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>go first, well no, make him go first. Yeah right,

1:31:21.720 --> 1:31:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know I'm better who knows? But I think they

1:31:25.120 --> 1:31:30.240
<v Speaker 1>both have a very legitimate claim to that. Yeah, title obviously,

1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean being better there with one was three and

1:31:32.280 --> 1:31:35.679
<v Speaker 1>one was four different types of yeah right yeah.

1:31:35.560 --> 1:31:38.080
<v Speaker 2>But does the agent? Does it make it more complicated

1:31:38.160 --> 1:31:40.680
<v Speaker 2>for the agent too, because if he gets more for

1:31:40.880 --> 1:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>one like by it than the other, right right, yeah.

1:31:44.360 --> 1:31:48.080
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So I mean it's gonna I don't think we're

1:31:48.120 --> 1:31:51.479
<v Speaker 6>going to be like in different ballparks here, Like it's

1:31:52.000 --> 1:31:55.200
<v Speaker 6>if Gonzales gets thirty two, then maybe Wetherspoon gets thirty

1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.040
<v Speaker 6>two in a quarter, right, Like, It's not like they're

1:31:57.040 --> 1:32:00.400
<v Speaker 6>going to be forty like I shouldn't.

1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Blow it out of the water more, but you never know. Yeah,

1:32:03.040 --> 1:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I've heard some different things.

1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:08.479
<v Speaker 2>Mike and Bocoverton about the cornerbacks for the Patriots. He says,

1:32:08.520 --> 1:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Patriots all time number one cornerback is Mike Haynes and

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<v Speaker 2>number two isn't even close. Haines was on the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>all time Top one hundred team, but also because of

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<v Speaker 2>his returning skills.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, no, no, but Haines was on the all time

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<v Speaker 1>NFL team because of his work with the Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Well true, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't want to bring that up.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, just tuned in. Not sure if you covered it.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to watch on the Patriots app and PU was

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<v Speaker 2>not available. Is it available on the Patriots dot com website?

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<v Speaker 2>I hope so. Yeah, and you let's check that out.

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<v Speaker 1>Check it out. Mike Hane's tremendous player. By the way, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>remember my tremendous corner, big corner. You don't remember Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Haynes way before my time?

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it a little over under from Mike. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>we got it going on the app.

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<v Speaker 1>So try to tap that app into your cat.

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<v Speaker 2>Check your starting control control F five.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the blue screen of death.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you catch your cash.

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<v Speaker 1>What about your your cash?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh little unorthodox preseason over under a regular season games

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<v Speaker 2>where the Patriots will be favored nine and a hay.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we can find this out already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, that's out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Regular season games nine and a half. I'm gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>the over. I'll take the over. I'll take ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Although Pro Bowl selections are usually a popularity contest, amount

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<v Speaker 2>of Patriots who make the Pro Bowl three and a hay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go over on that because I think they

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<v Speaker 3>went to the Super Bowl last year, and usually your

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<v Speaker 3>a year behind on some of the players, so you'll

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<v Speaker 3>start to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of that resision.

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<v Speaker 2>I think three is easy, right, you got maybe Gonzales,

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<v Speaker 2>Milton Williams, and Drake May.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's easy either, at the risk of

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<v Speaker 1>going off, Fred, are we talking actual Pro bowlers or

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<v Speaker 1>guys that say they went to.

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<v Speaker 4>All because, like you said, it popular second team. I

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<v Speaker 4>actually think that it's the initial roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, that that's what CENTI. That's what the censorship

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<v Speaker 1>based on, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that initial roster is actually still semi legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to take the under. Then, for the

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<v Speaker 1>same reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Evan said, yeah, okay, total points scored against the Jets

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<v Speaker 2>this year, total points scored two games, fifty four and

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<v Speaker 2>a hay over over over over.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I think they might score fifty four.

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<v Speaker 2>You never know what those AFC East games, you never

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<v Speaker 2>know in the division.

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<v Speaker 1>Some additions on defense. One of those games is really

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<v Speaker 1>late in the season, right, Yeah, that I missed the

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<v Speaker 1>second last one, so it could be a weather game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good number. Fifty four and a half's a

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<v Speaker 1>good number. I'll take the old. Just to be consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with everybody else, I'm gonna take the under. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take the under.

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<v Speaker 16>The Jets.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh home field goals made over fifty five yards by

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<v Speaker 2>borogalas to and a hay under.

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<v Speaker 1>Drake don't really fields this year. Offense is unstoppable. I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think is like a long range.

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<v Speaker 1>He had he had one last year? Though, didn't He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he have like a fifty seven yard year? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I just invent that he might have? He went up?

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<v Speaker 4>I did say that he doesn't have range.

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<v Speaker 1>You know he's not, But like three of them, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Aubrey is kicking sixty plus yard field.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I'm going with the Mike Mike do Soau theory.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense will not be stopped. We don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be kicking sixty year field goals. That's what happens in down.

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<v Speaker 2>T Throws for over fifty yards two and.

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<v Speaker 3>A hey, yeah he had a sixty three yard and

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<v Speaker 3>against Denver sixty three that's what it said.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, that was a sorry, it was a long. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he missed my sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Touchdowns for over fifty yards plus two and a hay

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<v Speaker 2>over over fifty yards yeah, under over over.

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<v Speaker 4>That's deep streak.

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<v Speaker 3>May we're talking about deep Come on, come on, now,

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<v Speaker 3>come on now, Paul, you know I got an emmy

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say he didn't have an anim Has that been?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you in?

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<v Speaker 4>Workshopping a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>So he didn't have any.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, back to the phone. We got Chucky in Wisconsin.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Chucky gees in Wisconsin?

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, yeah, hey guys, thanks for taking my call and

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<v Speaker 16>welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to the guy who's been away.

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<v Speaker 16>Hey, I got one that's been festering for a few

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<v Speaker 16>months now, and I thought the off season here as

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<v Speaker 16>we're wrapping up, might be a good time to get it,

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<v Speaker 16>Paul A little.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit good so good luck both shows, So.

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<v Speaker 16>Evan's in on this too. Both shows we talked about

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<v Speaker 16>drag May and the playoff performances, and I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 16>sort of an analytics guy at heart. But ultimately, if

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<v Speaker 16>you look at the weather in the Houston game, why

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<v Speaker 16>are people we shouldn't put the ball on the ground.

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<v Speaker 16>Why are people griping about three really beautiful touchdown passes

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<v Speaker 16>and saying that he didn't perform in the playoffs. So

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<v Speaker 16>thanks for taking the call, and I'll take it off

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<v Speaker 16>the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I thought we were going to have

1:37:06.760 --> 1:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a talk like those we can't hit and run just

1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:13.479
<v Speaker 1>a drive by? Yeah, I mean he maybe the best

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<v Speaker 1>throw that I saw and making the all the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>was the throw to Hunter Henry for a touchdown against

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. Like I can pick out plays that were

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<v Speaker 1>really good throws, but when you complete fifty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>your passes like the like, the body of your work

1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:32.479
<v Speaker 1>just wasn't that good. When you fumbled the ball how

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<v Speaker 1>many times four in the Houston games? And does that

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<v Speaker 1>not count?

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<v Speaker 4>Analytically? He did not play well in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Analytically eyeball test. Yeah, like he did enough to win

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<v Speaker 1>the games and he deserves credit for that. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he played against good defenses, and yes he played in

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<v Speaker 1>bad weather, but he didn't play that well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the question, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So for Chuck e.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheese, I'm the throw it back at you, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know you decided to leave. What if the Patriots defense

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been playing so well?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would also say, like, so he made a

1:38:08.600 --> 1:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>great throw, like I said to Hunter Henry, and he

1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:14.800
<v Speaker 1>made a great throw like to Dig, Like we're just

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<v Speaker 1>counting all the touchdowns of great throws, Like does Digs

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<v Speaker 1>not get any credit for that ridiculous catch in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone in Houston? That was like right in the

1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:24.599
<v Speaker 1>middle of like three guys. Yes, the throw was perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>but how many guys catch that? And I'm sorry, the

1:38:28.320 --> 1:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>booty catch is ridiculous. That was amazing better catch? Yeah, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you made the same throw and that ball's incomplete

1:38:38.560 --> 1:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>and no one's saying, oh geez, you know that ball's

1:38:40.560 --> 1:38:43.920
<v Speaker 1>got to get caught. But that's just the fine line.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the Patriots had a special year last year and

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<v Speaker 1>those things all went for them, and Drake May was

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<v Speaker 1>part of that and the receivers were part of that,

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<v Speaker 1>like they deserve to win those games because they made

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<v Speaker 1>those plays. But it wasn't just Drake May making those

1:38:58.520 --> 1:39:01.280
<v Speaker 1>plays in the playoffs. Now, a lot of times during

1:39:01.320 --> 1:39:03.479
<v Speaker 1>the regular season it was Drake May, but in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs it was, as Fred said, the defense dominating all

1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:10.599
<v Speaker 1>those turnovers. And then Marcus Jones completely changed the I mean,

1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I know that he didn't have a lot to he

1:39:12.160 --> 1:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>caught a punt. Yeah, it was it Milton Williams that

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<v Speaker 1>killed Stroud on that play that he threw up the

1:39:17.600 --> 1:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>punch for grabs. Yeah, that completely changed that games. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had his moments.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you don't win three playoff games without your

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback having some moments, but just the sum total of it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, no, we didn't have many.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked about like the Denver game. You know, the

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<v Speaker 2>one of the biggest plays was that twenty eight yards

1:39:35.760 --> 1:39:39.439
<v Speaker 2>scramble that he had or you know, the flee flicker play.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can't tell me that Drake May had a

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<v Speaker 2>good offensive game in Denver.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, the weather is going to be the weather, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the weather.

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<v Speaker 7>Weather affected that game, and it affected the Houston game.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, But my point is is maybe the defenses won't

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<v Speaker 6>be as good because I was a gauntlet. Let's face it, Like,

1:39:57.280 --> 1:40:00.560
<v Speaker 6>you know, like Houston, Seattle, Denver was three of the

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<v Speaker 6>best defense in the league all year long. But January

1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:06.360
<v Speaker 6>football and Foxborough is going to be bad weather, Like

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<v Speaker 6>when they get into the playoffs every single year they're not.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not going to be seventy in sunny, It's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be bad weather.

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<v Speaker 1>How did the defense play and those those three playoff games, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots defense. We don't say, well, there was bad

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<v Speaker 1>weather for the other team right now. No, we say

1:40:22.360 --> 1:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the Patriots defense played great because they did the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone defense woke up for the first time all year.

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<v Speaker 1>But how about the stunts and the pressure that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see all year?

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<v Speaker 4>They did?

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have that amount of pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>We might have ruined c J.

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<v Speaker 1>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean either right, Herbert took a beating that now, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 6>and they already had one hand.

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<v Speaker 4>He was already.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, we don't say, like, no, the weather was

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<v Speaker 1>bad so c J. Stroud was was turnover prone.

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<v Speaker 3>No, we say the Patriots defense killed Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>the Milwilliams When I was that popped into my head

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<v Speaker 3>when you said.

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<v Speaker 2>That was on was on Herbert, Yeah, David and Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>I work retail, and so once I'm completely caught up

1:41:03.520 --> 1:41:05.800
<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, I often go back a few years

1:41:05.920 --> 1:41:08.760
<v Speaker 2>to listen to old shows from when they do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't don't judge me, Evan, some of us have

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<v Speaker 2>to work.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not judging you. I'm just judging you. Why do

1:41:18.320 --> 1:41:20.320
<v Speaker 4>you like there's got to be something better that you

1:41:20.360 --> 1:41:20.600
<v Speaker 4>can do?

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<v Speaker 2>I could not help but notice the first show after

1:41:23.680 --> 1:41:27.040
<v Speaker 2>drafting Cole Strange, the best compliment the panel could give

1:41:27.120 --> 1:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>about Strange was Fred saying, listen, what I hear is

1:41:30.240 --> 1:41:32.680
<v Speaker 2>that he's a really nice guy. And that made me

1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:33.599
<v Speaker 2>laugh out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>This was before Evan, right, don't play it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what to say. The Patriots have drafted

1:41:47.160 --> 1:41:51.280
<v Speaker 4>offensive Strange from Chattanooga. We can stop it there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a question like, really along the same line,

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<v Speaker 2>do you guys ever go back and watch full games

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<v Speaker 2>during the odd days of the off season, not just

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<v Speaker 2>for film breakdown? If so, what games are go tos?

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<v Speaker 2>I personally love rewatching primetime games like the Giants Monday

1:42:08.680 --> 1:42:10.840
<v Speaker 2>night football game, great show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't watch. I don't games I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I do will flip on some highlights from time to

1:42:15.600 --> 1:42:17.599
<v Speaker 3>time when I feel like, wait, what happened in that game?

1:42:17.600 --> 1:42:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Because I find I don't know if it's just doing

1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:21.519
<v Speaker 3>this job or maybe it's just getting old. Like Paul

1:42:21.600 --> 1:42:25.160
<v Speaker 3>we talk about, I have trouble like what exactly happened

1:42:25.200 --> 1:42:26.519
<v Speaker 3>in that game? You know, like they all kind of

1:42:26.520 --> 1:42:28.880
<v Speaker 3>start to blend together. So sometimes but the super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't watched really. I mean I've looked at parts

1:42:31.439 --> 1:42:32.519
<v Speaker 3>of it, but I haven't watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. I haven't watched the super Bowl either. The

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I would say sometimes NFL network will just

1:42:37.560 --> 1:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>replay random right and whether the Patriots or not. I

1:42:40.960 --> 1:42:43.679
<v Speaker 1>would never sit there and watch three hours of a replay,

1:42:43.760 --> 1:42:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but like I would maybe clicking on in highlight, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you watch this drive? No, not unless there's something very specific.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not at midnight.

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<v Speaker 4>No, But like I've watches them the first time and

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<v Speaker 4>then and then he watches it again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not a big case he missed any I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a big rewatch guy. And that might be because

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<v Speaker 1>of that weird thing that I have with the recall,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I kind of remember the sequence? Yeah, now again,

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<v Speaker 1>ask me what happened like two hours ago? I can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Sam writes in I haven't seen it yet, but

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<v Speaker 2>love it of Fred loved the show. Oh that he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about he's talking about Live at the Toby House.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I thought he was talking about Fortunately I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, go subscribe. What do you guys think the

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<v Speaker 2>headlines will be after the first week of training camp?

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<v Speaker 2>What will Felger be grilling Greg Bagard on Will Campbell?

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<v Speaker 3>How's will Campbell look through the first three practices in shorts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Is Caleb Blom who already pushed it to do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>Now do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Fel I'll do Badard?

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<v Speaker 3>Now you when you drafted him that this was the

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<v Speaker 3>player you were getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Headline Drake may guaranteed not to regress.

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<v Speaker 7>That'll be the head I I think.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a strong chance it's where's Gonzales? How are they

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<v Speaker 3>going to figure this out?

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<v Speaker 1>The number one thing is Gonzales. If you're tell me

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<v Speaker 1>that he has not had a contract and he's participating

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<v Speaker 1>fully in camp, then maybe it'll go away. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing anything resembling what he did in the spring

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<v Speaker 1>without a contract. That's the number one thing. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the second thing is AJ Brown. How's A Brown Brown? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's I think to football.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean i'd put Akis in kind of the Gonzales

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<v Speaker 3>bucket of the two outstanding personnel issues.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I think A J.

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<v Speaker 3>Brown will certainly be a big focus as we get

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<v Speaker 3>into it. You know, how's Drake looking?

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<v Speaker 1>Your two and you know, are of these young guys improving?

1:44:40.400 --> 1:44:41.479
<v Speaker 1>You know that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the headlines will read this book AJ Brown

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<v Speaker 2>sparkles in camp.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, are we thinking AJ Brown is going to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything else besides AJ Brown?

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<v Speaker 7>But they'll they'll that'll be you know, obviously it a

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<v Speaker 7>headline when he does.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I just feel like, you know, you don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we're going to overreact to like AJ Brown? Did

1:45:00.439 --> 1:45:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you see that? Like I felt like I wrote like

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred words on his catching mini camp to lead

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<v Speaker 1>my feature for the book over it totally overreacted Maybe in.

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<v Speaker 6>That sense I thought you meant more like is like

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<v Speaker 6>working with AJ Brown? Because you're saying fulger and Maz Like,

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<v Speaker 6>to me, that's the negative slant of.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Like, well, I don't take it that way. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that they're gonna be Look, what are the storylines, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the big storylines?

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<v Speaker 4>I like punching bags.

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<v Speaker 6>So besides, I agree with the Gonzales stuff and the

1:45:30.520 --> 1:45:33.120
<v Speaker 6>act and stuff like Will Campbell is, Will Campbell's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be one of them a lightning rod, right, you know,

1:45:35.200 --> 1:45:38.599
<v Speaker 6>he's gonna ask Baard how Will Campbell looks? But Dodd's

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<v Speaker 6>gonna say something like I had him.

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<v Speaker 4>He had seven pluses.

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<v Speaker 1>I had I had him for two plus plays in

1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:49.679
<v Speaker 1>the one on ones he was one one and one,

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<v Speaker 1>but the loss went against Draymond Jones, So that's trouble again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say along those lines, though, if there was

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<v Speaker 3>a storyline of Achus is practicing or Elijah Ponder one

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<v Speaker 3>of the young edge guys are kind of popping a

1:46:06.479 --> 1:46:07.920
<v Speaker 3>little bit, like you know, and then that would be

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<v Speaker 3>that maybe the opposite of the Will Campbell, like Elijah

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<v Speaker 3>Ponder's been given Will Campbell a hard time. Is that

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<v Speaker 3>a good sign for Elijah Ponder? Is that a buy

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<v Speaker 3>a bad sign for Will Campbell?

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to go completely negative, if that's the

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<v Speaker 1>way you're looking at it with Felger, Like what's it

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<v Speaker 1>going to be railing against my guess is the media

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<v Speaker 1>because my shock, my my feel will be that we

1:46:29.880 --> 1:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>will all be writing a lot of really good stuff

1:46:32.120 --> 1:46:35.599
<v Speaker 1>because like AJ Brown's gonna look good and Drake may

1:46:35.720 --> 1:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>is gonna look comfortable in year two and Felger is

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<v Speaker 1>going to read all these stories. Oh, this is like

1:46:41.720 --> 1:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the best team in football. You know, there's got to

1:46:44.439 --> 1:46:46.880
<v Speaker 1>be something that's an issue down there. Is anybody see

1:46:46.960 --> 1:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>anything that you know? Because because every diary like we're dying,

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<v Speaker 1>the punching bag will be the media because which is

1:46:53.479 --> 1:46:55.240
<v Speaker 1>not feeding them in a negative.

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<v Speaker 4>Very big The poor Celtics beat just gets right for

1:46:58.840 --> 1:46:59.320
<v Speaker 4>the Coles.

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<v Speaker 1>He has one guy, Gary Washburn is the only guy

1:47:03.200 --> 1:47:07.559
<v Speaker 1>that he'll even take with any monica of legitimacy some.

1:47:07.640 --> 1:47:08.400
<v Speaker 4>Of the things he says.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Brandon's and Syracuse what's up Brandon Brandon?

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse Orange Men, No nothing, You're gone? Okay, Uh We'll

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<v Speaker 2>go out to the west Johns and Wyoming, what's up? John?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey? Can you guys hear me?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Ken a long time listener, first time caller. I love

1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>your guys the show.

1:47:35.040 --> 1:47:38.680
<v Speaker 8>I love that you guys do I hope Evan.

1:47:38.439 --> 1:47:40.719
<v Speaker 1>And Paul had a good vacation. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 3>One question one of the Patriots rival Jersey's gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>back in stock take it off there?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, thanks? Do we have the dates for the rivalry?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they were gonna wear him twice.

1:47:52.320 --> 1:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he wants to know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that back in the stop is wand

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<v Speaker 3>I I mean I was my understanding that it was

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<v Speaker 3>in the spring sometime, but I I've not seen them yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's incomplicated by the World Cup and the whole

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<v Speaker 3>Pro Shop had to move. I don't know if that

1:48:05.200 --> 1:48:07.120
<v Speaker 3>had something to do with it, but they are moving

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<v Speaker 3>back into the Pro Shop, so I mean I would hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything that they be back for training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>That seems like, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Find out and we'll get the answer. For Thursday's shows'll

1:48:14.680 --> 1:48:18.120
<v Speaker 2>be done in spring before the World Rivalry and Jerseys

1:48:18.160 --> 1:48:20.640
<v Speaker 2>back and stocked. Yeah, the popular item I had a

1:48:20.680 --> 1:48:22.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of I wonder if they'll have new a new

1:48:22.800 --> 1:48:23.920
<v Speaker 2>line of I mean.

1:48:23.880 --> 1:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>The colors will get and why you can because those

1:48:25.960 --> 1:48:26.919
<v Speaker 3>things were like hotcakes.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a real success, those rivalries, and.

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<v Speaker 6>It like seemed like it grew on people like I

1:48:32.520 --> 1:48:34.640
<v Speaker 6>feel like the original release, everybody was like, what the

1:48:34.720 --> 1:48:35.200
<v Speaker 6>heck is that?

1:48:35.400 --> 1:48:37.240
<v Speaker 4>And then like as people looked at it more.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I had a sneak peek at that

1:48:39.920 --> 1:48:42.639
<v Speaker 2>long before they got from the get go. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>these are cool, like the white helmet with the current

1:48:46.000 --> 1:48:48.800
<v Speaker 2>logo and the color was it was just I did

1:48:48.920 --> 1:48:51.120
<v Speaker 2>like the color. They really it's really hard to go

1:48:51.400 --> 1:48:55.479
<v Speaker 2>completely different from your scheme and be successful. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that hit a home run.

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<v Speaker 3>I too, I mean that was I thought. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be interesting to see. I guess eight more teams

1:49:00.240 --> 1:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>will do them this year, so you'll get another sense

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<v Speaker 3>of right, you know how many teams.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good point. I liked them all last year,

1:49:05.439 --> 1:49:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and sooner or later someone's going to come with something

1:49:07.840 --> 1:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my god, what would they think? That's awful?

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<v Speaker 1>The Jets. The Jets have like an all white thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's I thought they I thought they maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with the rivalry thing, but I

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<v Speaker 1>saw something white with the old white.

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<v Speaker 2>Helmet kind of waving the white flat probably, but I did.

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<v Speaker 1>Think it looked. It looked good. But like the Rams

1:49:29.600 --> 1:49:30.960
<v Speaker 1>one last year was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought, I like the they wore one was kind

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<v Speaker 6>of different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't really see one that I was like, Oh, usually,

1:49:39.760 --> 1:49:40.280
<v Speaker 1>let's face it.

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<v Speaker 6>Usually, I mean it's the swag also with the Patriots

1:49:44.560 --> 1:49:47.280
<v Speaker 6>rivalry stuff, it is really cool, like the jackets and

1:49:47.320 --> 1:49:48.360
<v Speaker 6>the hoodies and like.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I really like the Patriots stuff that

1:49:51.520 --> 1:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that they they put out. I hope there is I

1:49:53.800 --> 1:49:56.760
<v Speaker 1>agree with the caller. I hope that they produced more

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<v Speaker 1>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, ed, Hey, hey, gentlemen, Oh, I didn't know I

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<v Speaker 10>was through there.

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<v Speaker 2>Use that.

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<v Speaker 10>I've been listening since you drafted my fellow Tar Hill alum,

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<v Speaker 10>Drake May of you, guys, I had an interesting kind

1:50:14.960 --> 1:50:17.280
<v Speaker 10>of question for you, and it relates to the kickoff

1:50:17.400 --> 1:50:20.080
<v Speaker 10>changes we've seen in the last couple of years. Knowing

1:50:20.200 --> 1:50:24.679
<v Speaker 10>these kickoff changes want to kind of encourage kickoff returns.

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<v Speaker 10>When are we going to see a team take a

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<v Speaker 10>non kicker on special teams and have them kick off.

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<v Speaker 10>It leaves you someone on the back end that can

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<v Speaker 10>make the play if the returner breaks through. And quite frankly, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 10>it's not that hard to kick the ball fifty or

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<v Speaker 10>sixty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, well, Kansas City did it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, but I would think that it is kind

1:50:48.320 --> 1:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of a specialized skill to kick the ball where you want.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially the landing zone.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that we've seen it be enough of

1:50:58.680 --> 1:51:02.919
<v Speaker 6>an explosive play to need to put another like athlete

1:51:03.040 --> 1:51:05.280
<v Speaker 6>on the field. If it was, like if there was

1:51:05.360 --> 1:51:07.960
<v Speaker 6>like returns happening every single week and it was kind

1:51:08.000 --> 1:51:10.640
<v Speaker 6>of what we're seeing more of is like can you

1:51:10.720 --> 1:51:13.080
<v Speaker 6>get the thirty yard line is like sort of the

1:51:13.160 --> 1:51:16.280
<v Speaker 6>line of demarcation that most coaches are going for. So

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if there's the need.

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<v Speaker 1>And the penalty correct refresh my memory, the penalty for

1:51:24.160 --> 1:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>not hitting it in the landing area is to the

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<v Speaker 1>forty right, yeah, So I don't know if that's worth

1:51:29.280 --> 1:51:29.679
<v Speaker 1>the risk.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, they changed the there's one loophole that they I

1:51:33.400 --> 1:51:36.439
<v Speaker 6>think they shored up this offseason where like when the

1:51:36.560 --> 1:51:40.360
<v Speaker 6>kickoff gets moved up, yeah because of a penalty, Like

1:51:40.600 --> 1:51:43.240
<v Speaker 6>if you it's makes more sense to like kick it

1:51:43.320 --> 1:51:45.640
<v Speaker 6>outside the landing zone, and they fix that, but like

1:51:46.040 --> 1:51:47.280
<v Speaker 6>the kick.

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<v Speaker 1>It out of bounds yeah yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if they really there's definitely been more returns, yep.

1:51:56.120 --> 1:51:59.600
<v Speaker 6>I don't think there have been more longer returns.

1:51:59.280 --> 1:52:02.400
<v Speaker 7>Right usually get to around the third right, and so I.

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<v Speaker 4>Think that that's it's worked, and it hasn't. I guess

1:52:05.360 --> 1:52:06.919
<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to say, who's.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be the Patriots kick returner this year?

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks that their third running back and uh maybe like

1:52:14.160 --> 1:52:15.759
<v Speaker 6>Kyle Williams or wherever they're.

1:52:15.640 --> 1:52:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Like take it.

1:52:16.920 --> 1:52:19.240
<v Speaker 3>We don't have a like a this is like Antonio

1:52:19.320 --> 1:52:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Gibson last year felt like he's going to become for Wednesday.

1:52:22.800 --> 1:52:25.720
<v Speaker 6>The third running back has been what whoever that was?

1:52:25.840 --> 1:52:27.160
<v Speaker 6>Deernest Johnson Terrell?

1:52:27.320 --> 1:52:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that something tells me late later they

1:52:30.840 --> 1:52:32.559
<v Speaker 1>really they have to fill this kickoff returns?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay with that?

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<v Speaker 6>Regie Gilliam, big impact blocker on kickoff return Ray Davis Buffalo, Yeah,

1:52:44.800 --> 1:52:48.600
<v Speaker 6>all pro for the last year last year, you know,

1:52:48.760 --> 1:52:51.320
<v Speaker 6>because Regie g William really good lead blocker. I think

1:52:51.840 --> 1:52:53.760
<v Speaker 6>to the caller's point about the kicker, the thing I'm

1:52:53.800 --> 1:52:56.360
<v Speaker 6>more interested in is like are we ever going to

1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:59.599
<v Speaker 6>get more creative with the returns themselves? Like how they're

1:52:59.680 --> 1:53:02.200
<v Speaker 6>block and how you know you put two guys back

1:53:02.240 --> 1:53:04.680
<v Speaker 6>there and maybe have you know, reverses and things like

1:53:04.800 --> 1:53:08.960
<v Speaker 6>that everybody's played it like super safe so far, Like

1:53:09.080 --> 1:53:13.120
<v Speaker 6>they really haven't done anything. They've done some stunting and

1:53:13.360 --> 1:53:16.640
<v Speaker 6>like looping with blockers, but nothing like too crazy like it.

1:53:17.240 --> 1:53:22.160
<v Speaker 1>No. I mean it's definitely added returns, so it's done

1:53:22.200 --> 1:53:23.880
<v Speaker 1>what they wanted it to take that part of it,

1:53:23.960 --> 1:53:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I guess, but I don't. I don't really like it.

1:53:26.280 --> 1:53:28.360
<v Speaker 4>I just feel like they still wed.

1:53:29.680 --> 1:53:31.640
<v Speaker 6>I just feel like there's a lot more meat on

1:53:31.760 --> 1:53:35.080
<v Speaker 6>that bone, and I think nobody, for whatever reason, teams

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<v Speaker 6>are afraid to risk it like that. They feel like

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<v Speaker 6>there might be a m i you know, lead to

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<v Speaker 6>a turnover or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know Spring Lab this offseason, but there.

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<v Speaker 6>Just seems to be like something there that, like especially

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<v Speaker 6>if you need it, like late in the game and

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<v Speaker 6>like you need like a big momentum play or something

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<v Speaker 6>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Averse drop a name.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having lunch with Ernie Adams and this was

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<v Speaker 2>when they originally came up with the new rule, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said to them, you know, I really think that

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<v Speaker 2>this thing could lend itself to some really unique blocking schemes.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like he got like really excited for

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<v Speaker 2>a second and he's like yeah, and then but he

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<v Speaker 2>held back. You wouldn't tell me what he was thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think he's just so conditioned to not give

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<v Speaker 2>out information. But his eyes lit up, like yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you if he was still in the game,

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<v Speaker 2>on the team that he was on, you might see

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bills would do some things, and Gilliam was a

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<v Speaker 4>big part of it. So maybe it's a weapon part

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was I mean, I was kind of saying, like,

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<v Speaker 3>is it bad that they don't really? I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they do have a plan, but from the outside looking in,

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't seem like it seems to a place where

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<v Speaker 3>let's just have a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy in there. I think though, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Henderson should be an option now maybe if they feel

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<v Speaker 1>like he's too valuable to the offense, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it kind of just a running play? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, but I'm just like, if I'm jam Miller,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, kid, you got a real opportunity here, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a real opportunity to, you know, be the guy,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is a role that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is completely Anderson's like explosiveness. To me, is Taylor made

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<v Speaker 1>for that? I Mean, Marcus Jones is every bit is

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<v Speaker 1>valued more so. Yeah, really, and he's an electric weapon

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<v Speaker 1>on party turns. I would hate to see them take

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<v Speaker 1>that away from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think reverses and stuff like that, because unlike running play,

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<v Speaker 2>where you have the line of scrimmage bunched in, these

1:55:17.520 --> 1:55:20.200
<v Speaker 2>guys are spread out. So if if you can take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that and get guys go in the wrong direction,

1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you've got a little bit more time to get up

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<v Speaker 2>to full speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you're looking for creas but.

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<v Speaker 6>Last year, right, I don't know if they would do

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<v Speaker 6>it again, Like you know, Gibson and Terrell Jennings both

1:55:37.160 --> 1:55:41.360
<v Speaker 6>got hurt returning kickoffs, yep, and so putting Henderson back there, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>that's why they pulled back on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt is either in LA or Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know. It says Matt from LA.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to know everyone on here always says

1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Paul shows as someone who's not from Boston area and

1:55:57.280 --> 1:55:59.600
<v Speaker 2>has only been listening for a few years, What are

1:55:59.680 --> 1:56:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Paul show? Is there any show that will have Paul

1:56:02.160 --> 1:56:03.080
<v Speaker 2>on and pay him money?

1:56:03.560 --> 1:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Is really they even have to pay him? Show?

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<v Speaker 2>The Morning Show? Any any radio show? Three of the

1:56:11.320 --> 1:56:14.840
<v Speaker 2>shows on sports TV show that will that will have Paul.

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<v Speaker 7>That's Paul's show.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing very well. That show is doing very well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, awesome first podcast, Fred, My brother and I loved

1:56:29.800 --> 1:56:32.120
<v Speaker 2>it and wanted to know if it's coming to Spotify

1:56:32.200 --> 1:56:35.040
<v Speaker 2>our Apple podcasts. Well, we're talking about Live at the

1:56:35.120 --> 1:56:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Toby House, are we?

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<v Speaker 1>We might? We might?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We're starting at YouTube and we'll see if we

1:56:41.560 --> 1:56:46.440
<v Speaker 2>have to branch out so well that you know, listen,

1:56:48.320 --> 1:56:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I'll be doing it in bare feet and selling my

1:56:50.520 --> 1:56:53.160
<v Speaker 2>socks overall, but.

1:56:53.400 --> 1:56:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll be doing it and bare feet and selling my socks.

1:56:57.920 --> 1:56:59.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that how only fans works? Yeah?

1:56:59.440 --> 1:56:59.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1:57:00.160 --> 1:57:02.760
<v Speaker 1>You sell under wear stuff on, take them off and

1:57:02.840 --> 1:57:05.400
<v Speaker 1>then right slowly.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll close the show. Another pitch for Live at

1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the Toby House. It's my podcast on YouTube. Just go

1:57:12.800 --> 1:57:16.360
<v Speaker 2>there and watch it. Like it. Subscribe, Do me a favor,

1:57:16.880 --> 1:57:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, pay me back for everything I've done for

1:57:19.640 --> 1:57:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you for over thirty years.

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<v Speaker 5>Good.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to start my own couple away. I

1:57:23.320 --> 1:57:25.400
<v Speaker 1>got my own pop. It's going to be uh, it's

1:57:25.520 --> 1:57:26.200
<v Speaker 1>just about ticks.

1:57:26.240 --> 1:57:29.000
<v Speaker 3>It's called TikTok TikTok I was just talking about we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about ticks.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably you know trademark probably well you know what you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, like they have all the you know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>all those videos like people popping pimples. Oh god, yeah,

1:57:40.360 --> 1:57:42.560
<v Speaker 2>videos of people taking ticks off dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's like it's useful information refreshing, useful refreshing.

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<v Speaker 1>To see dogs being helped like that. People, Okay, the rise,

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<v Speaker 1>it's lines to refresh. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a there's some kind vaccine I think

1:57:57.240 --> 1:57:59.360
<v Speaker 3>in the works though, which I think, yes, they're working

1:57:59.400 --> 1:58:00.920
<v Speaker 3>on that, So we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 4>On tick we took there's a big tick problem on

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<v Speaker 4>Martha's vind overrun.

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<v Speaker 6>So we were coming out of the I was taking

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<v Speaker 6>them out at night when we got back from dinner

1:58:13.400 --> 1:58:16.200
<v Speaker 6>and there was a skunk like and luckily I saw

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<v Speaker 6>it before we like went all the way out on

1:58:18.280 --> 1:58:21.360
<v Speaker 6>the lawn and uh, it was just sitting right in front.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's the one thing about the vineyard, the bugs,

1:58:24.400 --> 1:58:27.000
<v Speaker 6>the rodents like that, it's rampant.

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<v Speaker 4>But the tics. Every time we took them on a walk,

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<v Speaker 4>we had to check them for ticks when we got

1:58:31.560 --> 1:58:32.120
<v Speaker 4>got back.

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<v Speaker 7>In ticks, poison, ivy and mosquitos, let's go.

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<v Speaker 4>Why do we need them skunks this summer on the island.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we could do without it. The ecosystem would

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<v Speaker 2>be fine if we eliminate those three.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's true, but I know it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is a little late in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But how does skunks get on the vineyard?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Hop on a ship maybe, yeah, garbage, garbage vessels, garbage

1:58:57.520 --> 1:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We also saw it to see odins, But that's a skunk.

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<v Speaker 6>Every morning we'd wake up and there'd be a family

1:59:03.760 --> 1:59:05.920
<v Speaker 6>of turkeys out on the lawn.

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<v Speaker 1>They obviously could fly there.

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<v Speaker 2>Fly a little bit. They do fly.

1:59:12.000 --> 1:59:13.600
<v Speaker 1>They do fly. It couldn't they couldn't fly.

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<v Speaker 2>From the rare times that bears get on the cave,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't swim across the canal. They usually they're on

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<v Speaker 2>those garbage vessels and they get across.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was driving home on the Mass back, I

1:59:27.960 --> 1:59:31.800
<v Speaker 3>saw a dead bear on the medium. Oh well, that's

1:59:32.080 --> 1:59:34.160
<v Speaker 3>like west End Mass And I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>you never see it, you know, black bear.

1:59:36.040 --> 1:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Just dead right in the middle, never far.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to see the car that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't look like you know, but tune in again

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow Catch twenty two Dead Bear, We.

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<v Speaker 4>Could definitely be talking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell the animals don't try to cross this car, just

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<v Speaker 2>stay on the other side, all right. We'll see you

1:59:54.520 --> 1:59:57.360
<v Speaker 2>on Tuesday. Catch twenty two tomorrow.

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