WEBVTT - Bonus Episode | Leo's Parole Hearing Comes to a Close but it's not Over

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>You want me to do it, you can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay. We are here at the at the building

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<v Speaker 3>where the parle hearing is going to be taking place.

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<v Speaker 3>It is eight forty six. I think Leo's case is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be heard around ten. Yeah, and I'm right

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<v Speaker 3>here with Gilbert to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should sit in the back this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I will need to be right by the podium.

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<v Speaker 3>So make sure next is fine, okay, no problem this, yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're at the break here. They've give him like

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<v Speaker 2>a five minute break, and I think the Schoolfield case

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<v Speaker 2>will be called very first next. Everybody seems to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>Cup is ready, some people from CDP. Chrissy is here,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jacob Orr will also be I'm here speaking for

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<v Speaker 2>the state in the tenth I'm not sure if anybody's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be calling in from the Saum families. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think so. But that's about all we know right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Good morning everyone. It's ten thirty five am.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back on the record. This is Melinda Kunrod with

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<v Speaker 1>the Commission on a Fender review. I'm joining with Commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>Davison and Commissioner Whitant we're about to start the full

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<v Speaker 1>portion of the docket. We're all free. Commissioners will be voting.

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<v Speaker 1>The first case that we're calling is Item twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>on page twelve, Leo Schofield. This is an effective interview

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<v Speaker 1>that was conducted on March twenty seven, twenty twenty Ford

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<v Speaker 1>Everglades CI the investigators recommending parole. Good morning, Jods, we'd

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<v Speaker 1>be happy here for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Good morning, Commissioner. It's my name is Scott Kopp. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>the attorney for Leo Schofield. I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 4>much until the end. Want I want some folks that

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<v Speaker 4>mean a lot to Leo who are present. There's three

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<v Speaker 4>that are present. They're going to speak first. I'd like

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<v Speaker 4>to call Sergeant Simmons.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>My name is Sergeant James Simmons. I'm currently employed at

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<v Speaker 6>Jefferson Correctional Institution. I've been with the department twenty eight years.

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<v Speaker 6>Of those twenty eight years, I've known Leo Schofield for

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seven of those years. Of them twenty seven years,

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<v Speaker 6>me and Leal Scofield has worked together for the last

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<v Speaker 6>ten years. Lei Schofield was a great inmate at Hardy

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<v Speaker 6>Correction to institution. He was a great assets there. I

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<v Speaker 6>know Mm Schofield had took the theology class to earn

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<v Speaker 6>a degree in that. I know he had a large

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<v Speaker 6>Bible class.

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<v Speaker 5>He also helped me.

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<v Speaker 6>In the locke and key department. I was the lock

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<v Speaker 6>and key sergeant. He was my orderly. One day we

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<v Speaker 6>were working pulling a lockout and I was a real

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<v Speaker 6>bad diabetic blushuger dropped as I was falling forward. They

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<v Speaker 6>tell me that Leo Scofield caught me before I hit

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<v Speaker 6>the concrete floor and placed me in a chair, and

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<v Speaker 6>he knew I was a bad diabetic, and he took

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<v Speaker 6>the meter out of my pocket and placed it on

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<v Speaker 6>my device to see what my blood sugar was and

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<v Speaker 6>it was very low. And he got me medical attention

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<v Speaker 6>quickly and got me some staff in there to help

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<v Speaker 6>me out. And to this day I am very thankful

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<v Speaker 6>Leo Scofield was there to help me. I know Leo

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<v Speaker 6>Schofield has a great support staff with his wife and

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<v Speaker 6>daughter and other family members. In my professional opinion before that,

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<v Speaker 6>Leo Schofield make a great candidate for Parot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, sergeant, Thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Sergeant David Welch.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, Donald, Commissioner's med Him, Chair Commissioner Davidson, Commissioner Wyatt.

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<v Speaker 7>I stand before you today on behalf of Leo Schofield

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<v Speaker 7>because this is the case that I know in and out,

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<v Speaker 7>because I met Leo when I was seventeen years old

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<v Speaker 7>when I first entered Department of Corrections. Leo Schofield met

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<v Speaker 7>me off the bus when I was there, scared, didn't

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<v Speaker 7>know where I was going to go, what I was

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<v Speaker 7>going to do, what to do with my life from

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<v Speaker 7>then on, just received a natural life sentence at that point,

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<v Speaker 7>with a possibility of pro after twenty five years. I

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<v Speaker 7>am grateful for the grace of Parol. I'm a proud

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<v Speaker 7>member of CTP. But Leo Schofield was an educational clerk

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<v Speaker 7>back then. This was in nineteen ninety four. Again, I

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<v Speaker 7>was seventeen years old. I'm now forty seven. Leo Schofield

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<v Speaker 7>told me when I first met him I was going

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<v Speaker 7>through orientation process that I could do my time a

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<v Speaker 7>couple of ways. I could be like others and just

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<v Speaker 7>go play poker, play basketball and run around the reck

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<v Speaker 7>yard and waste my life. Or I could make the

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<v Speaker 7>best of it and that's what I did. He got

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<v Speaker 7>me an education as an orderly So from then on

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<v Speaker 7>I got my GED. I actually graduated, got my GED

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<v Speaker 7>before I would have graduated high school on the street.

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<v Speaker 7>From then on he continued to encourage me and impress

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<v Speaker 7>me to go into vocational trades. So that started me

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<v Speaker 7>on the bath that ultimately led me to be here

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<v Speaker 7>in front of you today, to do my time wisely,

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<v Speaker 7>to take advantage of opportunities to get in education and

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<v Speaker 7>to do something with my life. Leo Schofield also signed

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<v Speaker 7>me up for Chiro's Prison Ministry. I went through a

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<v Speaker 7>Chiros retreat there. Didn't know anything about Chiros, but Leo

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<v Speaker 7>signed me up for that and told me it would

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<v Speaker 7>be something good for my life. That in turn changed

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<v Speaker 7>my life because it's surrendered my life to Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 7>And from then on now today I stand before you.

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<v Speaker 7>Haven't been released, haven't been terminated from Parol. I'm now

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<v Speaker 7>the chair of Chiro's Prison Ministries at Avon Parks CI.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, tomorrow I have thirty six men that are

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<v Speaker 7>under me that I'll be leading in to do Chiros

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<v Speaker 7>fifty seven at Avon Park. So from then on, from

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<v Speaker 7>the very first time I met Leo until today, I

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<v Speaker 7>am now a still citizen volunteer. I go back into

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<v Speaker 7>the prisons every month. I'm leading Chiros fifty seven next month.

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<v Speaker 7>And the education I received because of the influence of

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<v Speaker 7>mister Leo Schofield when I first met him as a teenager.

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<v Speaker 7>I've known him for thirty years. His character demeanor have

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<v Speaker 7>never changed one bit, and I just know, out of

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<v Speaker 7>all respect to the offense and the life that was

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<v Speaker 7>lost in this case, Leo Schofield is not a threat

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<v Speaker 7>to society in any kind of way. If Leo Schofield

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<v Speaker 7>is released, I can guarantee you that I will be

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<v Speaker 7>there for him in Tampa at Noah's house. I can

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<v Speaker 7>guarantee you that he will participate in CTP programs and

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<v Speaker 7>also be here in Tallahausee to represent others. Leo Schofield

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<v Speaker 7>will be a benefit if you guys are give him

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<v Speaker 7>the grace of prol today. I'm just simply asking, as

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<v Speaker 7>someone that knows him for a long time, to give

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<v Speaker 7>him that chance, because I believe in Leo Schofield. I

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<v Speaker 7>know as the only request that you guys asked of

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<v Speaker 7>me to not let you down. Leo Schofield likewise will

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<v Speaker 7>not let you down if you're grind the Groce pro.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for a looting me to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, mister Welch.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you. Jeff Reuter.

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<v Speaker 8>My name is Jeffrey Reuter, CTP Alumni, Noah's House Community Outreach,

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<v Speaker 8>House Coordinator, Commissioner, Kunrod, Commissioner, Dason Commissioner. Why. I've known

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<v Speaker 8>Leo for well over a decade. We were students together

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<v Speaker 8>in numerous classes. We facilitated classes together, we lived in

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<v Speaker 8>the dorm together, we got recreation together. We just lived

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<v Speaker 8>in prison together. And I know firsthand what that involves.

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<v Speaker 8>And Leo was always he always stayed the course and

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<v Speaker 8>no matter what came at as he had a clear

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<v Speaker 8>head and solid judgment. This is a very unique case,

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<v Speaker 8>and I know that Leo's heart goes out to his wife, Michelle.

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<v Speaker 8>Our hearts go out to Michelle and her families. So

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<v Speaker 8>Leo is very mindful that as well. He worked first

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<v Speaker 8>hand with me with the Peyton Tutthill and Peyton Tudhill

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<v Speaker 8>Foundation and Miss Tutthill. He recorded a record for her,

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<v Speaker 8>turned over, recorded a whole record, turned over copyrighted the

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<v Speaker 8>record and then sent the record to Miss Tuthill where

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<v Speaker 8>recorded that music at Hearty CI and now that's part

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<v Speaker 8>of the foundation's story where they actually helped raise his

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<v Speaker 8>money for the children of scholarship victims. I know that

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<v Speaker 8>we're not here to determine guilt or innocence, but ken Leo,

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<v Speaker 8>pursuing to nine forty seven, can Leo conducted himself as

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<v Speaker 8>a citizen, as a free citizen, as a responsible citizen.

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<v Speaker 8>And I submit that he can. Pastor Tony Parker and

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<v Speaker 8>I from Noah's Community Outreach, we've been talking about Leo

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<v Speaker 8>for the past two weeks. There's a brand new house

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<v Speaker 8>at Noah's House. There's four guys in it right now.

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<v Speaker 8>Gregory Samuels, who was released yesterday, was the newest guy

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<v Speaker 8>in the house. He came yesterday. So we have a

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<v Speaker 8>bed for Leo at the new house where I'm the

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<v Speaker 8>coordinator at that house. We have an all star team there.

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<v Speaker 8>We will help lead and guide Leo post release if

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<v Speaker 8>you grant him grace today, and that is my humble request,

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<v Speaker 8>would you please grant Leo grace today? Thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure who's on the phone from.

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<v Speaker 5>CTP, but you got about a minute.

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<v Speaker 9>Could you pick one person to speak.

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<v Speaker 10>Please yeah, good morning, Convintions Choy Martin, thank you, missus,

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<v Speaker 10>Missus Coonroh, and Missus Davis and mister Waynet. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 10>the opportunity to speak on Leo's behalf. My condoc is

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<v Speaker 10>to the victim, Michelle and her family as well. I

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<v Speaker 10>need to be met Leo in October two thousand and

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<v Speaker 10>two at South Bay where he taught and played guitar

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<v Speaker 10>in the chapels. In the choirt, Leo also taught guys

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<v Speaker 10>to play the guitar. He continues to do so today

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<v Speaker 10>in CTP. I see him on a weekly basis. He's

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<v Speaker 10>thriving in the program. I believe it was a group

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<v Speaker 10>called the Old Jays that sang a song that says

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<v Speaker 10>I love music. I want to say to you today

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<v Speaker 10>with all due respect, that Leo loves music as well,

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<v Speaker 10>and he loves it so much that he's willing to

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<v Speaker 10>give his time and energy to help others learn to

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<v Speaker 10>play the guitar and have a love for music as well.

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<v Speaker 10>I believe that he's an excellent candidate for parole, and

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<v Speaker 10>I believe that he is epitome of a model prisoner

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<v Speaker 10>that would translate into being successful citizen. And society. I

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<v Speaker 10>respectfully request that you parole him today. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 10>your time of consideration.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to Labor commissioners what you already know.

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<v Speaker 4>We've had our meetings you for view to pack it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you pretty much know what you want to do,

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<v Speaker 4>and I suspect you're going to do the right thing,

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<v Speaker 4>and I trust you to do that. I can't say

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<v Speaker 4>more than what these men have said and what you've read.

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<v Speaker 4>Leo has continued to achieve and exceed expectations wherever he's

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<v Speaker 4>been the one thing I do want to address, if

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<v Speaker 4>you do grant him parole, which I believe you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to do, I want to address the walkout date, because

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<v Speaker 4>it's very important. It's very important to Leo, it's very

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<v Speaker 4>important to all of us. He needs to go as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as possible. Thirteen days. He needs to go April thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 4>not in June, not two more months. If that becomes

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<v Speaker 4>the walkout date, that, in my opinion, is merely punitive.

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<v Speaker 4>It serves no purpose whatsoever with that. I'll turn the

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<v Speaker 4>podium over to the state.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much. Now we're going to move to

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<v Speaker 1>those in opposition. Mister Orr is here and do we

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<v Speaker 1>have anyone online wishing to speak? If so, pressed our

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<v Speaker 1>six go, oh, good morning. Are you speaking on the

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<v Speaker 1>Schofield case?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, but I'm not in opposition. I'm his brother. I

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<v Speaker 11>tried to call in last year and I wasn't able

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<v Speaker 11>to talk. I just wanted to say that my brother

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<v Speaker 11>has been he's been doing a lot of great things

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<v Speaker 11>in prison, but he was doing a lot of great

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<v Speaker 11>things before he went to prison. I didn't have much

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<v Speaker 11>of a father, so he basically raised me. And I

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<v Speaker 11>just wanted to be there for him for whenever I could,

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<v Speaker 11>because I know he's a good man, a good person,

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<v Speaker 11>and he's one of the only reasons why I've been

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<v Speaker 11>able to make it through this life. And I just

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<v Speaker 11>wanted to I just wanted to say thank you for

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<v Speaker 11>an opportunity to get him out of prison. And I

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<v Speaker 11>pray that you guys do the right thing today. And

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<v Speaker 11>that's all I ask.

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<v Speaker 1>And what is your name?

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<v Speaker 11>My name is Jason Schofield.

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<v Speaker 1>All thank you, all right, mister Orr from you, Good morning, commissioners.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 12>My name is Jake or I'm an assistant state attorney

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<v Speaker 12>in the tenth Judicial Circuit. It's good to be with you. Again.

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<v Speaker 12>Last year, I addressed you regarding this case, and I

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<v Speaker 12>told you then that you cannot pursue justice without first

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<v Speaker 12>pursuing truth. And I believe that to be a true statement,

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<v Speaker 12>and I think that it has a particular relevance in

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<v Speaker 12>this case. The reason being there's been a whole lot

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<v Speaker 12>of media attention. As you know, there's been TV shows,

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<v Speaker 12>print media, multiple multiple episode podcasts, and I'm reading that

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<v Speaker 12>there's going to be more. There's going to be a

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<v Speaker 12>TV drama series maybe, and some sort of novels in

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<v Speaker 12>the works. It's all very entertaining and in truth, it's

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<v Speaker 12>an interesting case. I'm not going to go into all

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<v Speaker 12>the facts because I think you're kind of I'm familiar

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<v Speaker 12>with some of them, but it's a circumstantial case, lots

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<v Speaker 12>of twists and turns, and the storytelling related to it

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<v Speaker 12>has been outstanding. However, the truth telling has been unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 12>An example of that that involves this commission happened in

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<v Speaker 12>May of twenty twenty when Jerry Hill addressed you regarding

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<v Speaker 12>the case. Mister Hill recited certain facts of the case,

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<v Speaker 12>including going into who found the body in this case,

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<v Speaker 12>and I've pulled the transcript and I just want to

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<v Speaker 12>read a couple things that mister Hill told you. He

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<v Speaker 12>told you quote Missus Schofield's body was discovered in the

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<v Speaker 12>canal located in a hilly wooded area on the morning

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<v Speaker 12>of February twenty seventh, eighty seven, by Leo Schofield Senior.

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<v Speaker 4>Close quote.

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<v Speaker 12>Later in his presentation, mister Hill told you that Leo

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<v Speaker 12>was driven by an inter force and he said he

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<v Speaker 12>felt drawn to that area and felt Michelle was calling

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<v Speaker 12>out to him. He said he had told Detective Russell,

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<v Speaker 12>and I'm still quoting here, told Detective Russell that his

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<v Speaker 12>daughter in law was within a certain distance. Now, the

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<v Speaker 12>podcast that's got the most attention covering this case covered

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<v Speaker 12>that hearing in twenty twenty. They even used some of

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<v Speaker 12>the audio, but they got it wrong. They edited out

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<v Speaker 12>mister Hill telling you that the body was found by

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<v Speaker 12>Schofield Senior. They edited out mister Hill telling you that

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<v Speaker 12>he was searching for his daughter in law. They played

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<v Speaker 12>select clips about Leo searching, and then the narrator came

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<v Speaker 12>in and said said this, Jerry Hill gets it wrong

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<v Speaker 12>in a major way. The narrator stated that Jerry Hill

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<v Speaker 12>made it sound like the body was found by the defendant,

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<v Speaker 12>Leo Schofield Junior. Now take a minute and focus on

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<v Speaker 12>that reporting. Obviously that's not what happened you were here.

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<v Speaker 12>But it's worse than that, because this is not argumentative

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<v Speaker 12>argument or interpretation of facts of the record. It's it's

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<v Speaker 12>not a narrative told from a particular point of view

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<v Speaker 12>that is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of what

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<v Speaker 12>happened in front of it. It's false. This should cause

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<v Speaker 12>concern for anybody that thinks they know facts about this

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<v Speaker 12>case because they heard a podcast, read something on social

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<v Speaker 12>media or the internet, or even a newspaper article. Because

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<v Speaker 12>good storytellers have picked up this case and they've told

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<v Speaker 12>stories that are incomplete, that misrepresent the actual evidence in

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<v Speaker 12>the case, and sometimes are false, you are reading, or

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<v Speaker 12>more likely hearing, a very compelling story that has no

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<v Speaker 12>fidelity to the truth. Today, we've gone through one black

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<v Speaker 12>and white example that involved this commission, but there are many,

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<v Speaker 12>many others when you get into the facts of the case. Now,

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<v Speaker 12>why am I telling you this? Why is it relevant

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<v Speaker 12>to today? Because my one ask of you is, whatever

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<v Speaker 12>decision you make, don't base it on some sensational media

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<v Speaker 12>accounts that are set to dramatic music. Base it on

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<v Speaker 12>truth in the criminal justice system, trial courts, appellate court's

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<v Speaker 12>parole commission, whatever it is, it's of the utmost importance

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<v Speaker 12>that we always pursue truth because it's our only chance

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<v Speaker 12>at pursuing justice. This case has been reviewed by multiple courts,

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<v Speaker 12>multiple trial judges, multiple panels of appellate judges for over

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<v Speaker 12>thirty years, and there's a difference between what they do

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<v Speaker 12>in those reviews and the entertainment industry. In the court,

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<v Speaker 12>you can't edit out the facts you don't like. You

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<v Speaker 12>can't edit the facts to fit your storyline. What those

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<v Speaker 12>judges have done has reviewed this case based on the

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<v Speaker 12>actual transcript, the actual evidence, and the law, and in

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<v Speaker 12>all those reviews, every time they've determined there is sufficient

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<v Speaker 12>evidence to support this conviction. Now, in the interest of fairness,

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's important that I also tell you that

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<v Speaker 12>I'm not telling you about those falsehoods in the media

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<v Speaker 12>for you to hold them against mister Schofield. That's not

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<v Speaker 12>my intention. He did not write those stories, he didn't

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<v Speaker 12>edit the audio. I told you about those falsehoods so

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<v Speaker 12>you could focus on the truth. And truth is from

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<v Speaker 12>what I know he's been an outstanding inmate. Sounds like

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<v Speaker 12>it's got an incredible support system, and you should consider

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<v Speaker 12>all that. I also know that you should consider that

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<v Speaker 12>he was convicted of a terribly violent crime, and you

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<v Speaker 12>know that you must use caution before you release such

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<v Speaker 12>an individually. I guess what I'm saying is, in the end,

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<v Speaker 12>if you determine that justice requires he be parolled or

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<v Speaker 12>not based on an honest review of the evidence, the law,

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<v Speaker 12>the time he's served, and all the factors that you

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<v Speaker 12>would consider in any other case, and you do that

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<v Speaker 12>with an honest review, then justice will be served. That's

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<v Speaker 12>all anyone could ever ask of you. You have a

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<v Speaker 12>tough job. I thank you for your service to our state,

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<v Speaker 12>and I thank you for your time this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Miss jore. Do we have either Ricky or

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Soum online? If so, ProStar six and Muture film

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<v Speaker 1>all right here, and then we'll perceive that the vote

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<v Speaker 1>is starting with mister Dason.

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<v Speaker 5>In the matter of Leo Schofield.

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<v Speaker 13>I've had the opportunity to review this case, and it's entirety.

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<v Speaker 13>I've listened very closely to the testimony in support as

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<v Speaker 13>well as the testimony in opposition here today. Today is

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<v Speaker 13>not the first aid that I've had the opptinnity to

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<v Speaker 13>give input into this case. The last time this case

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<v Speaker 13>was before us, my vote was to extend mister Schofield's

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<v Speaker 13>ppr D by twenty four months and to refer him

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<v Speaker 13>to the Corrections Transition Program at the Everglades Correctional Institution.

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<v Speaker 13>How real, the vote of this commission was to extend

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<v Speaker 13>by twelve months, which was set the new ppr D

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<v Speaker 13>at June twenty five, twenty twenty four, and in agreement

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<v Speaker 13>to refer mister Scholfield to the Corrections Transition Program at

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<v Speaker 13>the Everglades Correctional Institution. Since that time, mister Scholfield has

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<v Speaker 13>participated in the CTP program, has done well, and I

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<v Speaker 13>think that he has greatly benefited from his time there.

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<v Speaker 13>I think that he will continue to benefit from his

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<v Speaker 13>time in the corrections Transition program if he continues to

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<v Speaker 13>serve until the PPRD date that this commission set, which

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<v Speaker 13>is June twenty five, twenty twenty four. So I know

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<v Speaker 13>that there was some question here about a walkout date,

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<v Speaker 13>and I think that that walkout date should be consistent

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<v Speaker 13>with the PPRD that this commission set less than a

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<v Speaker 13>year ago. That datea is not punitive. That date is

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<v Speaker 13>necessary for moving mister Scholfield toward a successful parole if

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<v Speaker 13>he has paroled here today.

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<v Speaker 5>So as mister Orr has requested my.

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<v Speaker 13>Honest review of this case, and that is my honest

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<v Speaker 13>review of this case. So my vote here today is

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<v Speaker 13>not a question of guilt or innocence. That is the

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<v Speaker 13>province of the judicial system. This case has been litigated

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<v Speaker 13>both in the trial as well as the appella arenas,

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<v Speaker 13>and that determination is that mister Scholfield is guilty.

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<v Speaker 5>Of first degree murder. Today, my vote is.

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<v Speaker 13>To parole mister Scholfield to the max on June twenty five,

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<v Speaker 13>twenty twenty four, Terms four and five.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Commissioner.

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<v Speaker 14>White, Thank you man, Thank you all for here testimony

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<v Speaker 14>today as it relates to mister Schofield, and I too

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<v Speaker 14>have reviewed this case as a and I'm familiar with

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<v Speaker 14>the case. I've had meetings regarding the case, and during

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<v Speaker 14>the last Commission action I stressed the importance of programming.

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<v Speaker 14>Mister Schofield has been incarcerated for a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 14>A lot has changed since then, so I felt it

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<v Speaker 14>important that he gets some programming from the CTP program.

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<v Speaker 14>Since his admission into that program, he's done well. He's

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<v Speaker 14>completed numerous classes. The testimony here today, of course, speaks

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<v Speaker 14>highly of him as far as his interactions with those

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<v Speaker 14>in the program in review. In this case, it's entirety

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<v Speaker 14>considering all things, and I too support the court systems

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<v Speaker 14>and their findings.

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<v Speaker 5>Upon my review this case, my.

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<v Speaker 14>Vote today is parol to the max April thirty, twenty

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<v Speaker 14>twenty four, Reasons four and five.

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<v Speaker 1>And after review the entire record and hearing all the

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<v Speaker 1>statements both the opposition and support, and my vote would

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<v Speaker 1>be to parole to the max for April thirty, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, Reasons four and five. Mister Davison, What are

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<v Speaker 1>your conditions?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, The special conditions are entering complete the Noah Community Outreach.

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<v Speaker 5>Program for a period of one year.

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<v Speaker 11>Agree.

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<v Speaker 13>Mandatory mental health and substance of use evaluation and treatment

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<v Speaker 13>as necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree.

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<v Speaker 13>Agree Anger and stress management evaluation and treatment as necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Agree.

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<v Speaker 13>Agree six months community controlled during the Noah Community Outreach Program,

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<v Speaker 13>followed by eighteen months of curfew ten pm to six am.

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<v Speaker 5>Agree.

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<v Speaker 13>Agree participate in the after care components of the FIU

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<v Speaker 13>Alumni Program. And the Noah Community Outreach Program. Agree no

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<v Speaker 13>contact with the victims family and case number eighty eight

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<v Speaker 13>twenty three forty six. Agree NAAA three times per week

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<v Speaker 13>for the first year, two times per week thereafter.

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<v Speaker 5>Agree pay restitution to.

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<v Speaker 13>Be determined the case number eighty eight, that's twenty three

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<v Speaker 13>forty six. Agree and mandatory attendance at the first supervision

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<v Speaker 13>before the Florida Commission offend of review unless otherwise excused

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<v Speaker 13>for good costs by the Commission or the parole officer.

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<v Speaker 5>I agree.

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<v Speaker 13>I don't have any additional terms.

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<v Speaker 5>That's terms.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank everyone, take a real brief break so that the cameras.

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<v Speaker 11>Can be very movement.

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<v Speaker 13>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Leo is being paroled and he'll be getting out of

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<v Speaker 2>everyglades on April thirtieth.

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<v Speaker 9>What happened today. Obviously it's a good thing, but it's

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<v Speaker 9>just a step, a step on a much longer road.

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<v Speaker 9>Leo is going to be paroled. Then I'll go to

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<v Speaker 9>a halfway house. But he's not free, and people need

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<v Speaker 9>to understand he's still a convicted murderer.

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<v Speaker 11>He is not free.

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<v Speaker 9>He's gotten all kinds of restrictions and all kinds of hoops.

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<v Speaker 9>He's going to have to jump through, and it's going

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<v Speaker 9>to be extremely difficult. While it's a good thing in

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<v Speaker 9>a sense, it's prison without bars, is what it is.

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<v Speaker 9>And some folks have extreme difficulty doing it because you

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<v Speaker 9>look like you're free and you can go out in

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<v Speaker 9>public and you can do certain things. But he's going

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<v Speaker 9>to literally have to account for literally.

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<v Speaker 4>Every minute of his day and he has to that

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<v Speaker 4>permission to do everything.

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<v Speaker 9>Try living that way.

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<v Speaker 5>So the fight now turns.

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<v Speaker 9>To looking into getting him exonerated, but he's in for

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<v Speaker 9>a very difficult time, make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 15>You want to walk and talk for a minute, sure,

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<v Speaker 15>get us up crying, you're loving The whole entire day

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<v Speaker 15>is exhausting. You know, you think you're going to be

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<v Speaker 15>calm and cool and relaxed, and they start talking.

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<v Speaker 13>And in the tone and.

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<v Speaker 15>You're the emotions and the butterflies just kick in and

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<v Speaker 15>you just starting oh, here come the tears, Here come

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<v Speaker 15>the tears, and uh so it's a lot. It's ah,

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<v Speaker 15>it's hard to put into words the level of emotion

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<v Speaker 15>that I feel right now. Like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 15>are saying congratulations and yeay, and it's exciting, but it's

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<v Speaker 15>we're still we're not done.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not free.

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<v Speaker 15>I mean, he's out, but it's not over.

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<v Speaker 12>M