1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: What two three brights down the middle of the family time. 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: He loves football. 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 2: Down in the one yard line. How about that? That 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: is the ultimate kabash and we are underway. Hello everyone, 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: welcome back to another episode of the Action Network NFL podcast. 6 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: I am Matthew Friedman, the editor in chief of Fantasy Labs. 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: We are coming to you with another podcast on the 8 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Alliance of American Football the AAF. It is week five, 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: so we are nearing the midway point in the season 10 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: and with me is our resident Alliance expert, Ian Hartitz, 11 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: the director of the Fantasy Labs NFL platform and an 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: Action Network analyst, and also joining us to break down 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: the Alliance and this weekend's Action is Cynthia Freeland, an 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: NFL network analytics experts, a data scientist, and a co 15 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: host of the Game, Theory and Money podcast, which is 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: one of my favorite podcasts to listen to during the 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: NFL season and also for the NFL Network. She is 18 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 2: covering the Alliance and has quickly become a great source 19 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: of information and insight for the new league. Cynthia, thanks 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: for joining us. 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We got a good look going here. 22 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: We're coming to you from formost of beach where it's raining. 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: So California people, even once you're originally from the Midwest, 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: we don't know what to do. So we just put 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 3: the hats on and hybrid it inside. It's a little 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 3: bit of rain. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: Well, that is exactly what is happening with Ian and 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: with me too, so we're all in this together. Ian, 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 2: how is it going with you? Ready to talk some Alliance? 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 4: We're still in the middle of the one turn. There's 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: still football on every weekend. I love it, man. I 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: still haven't had to go over the dark side that 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: they call basketball, so I'm still very much in the 34 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 4: af game. 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know, kind of looking ahead for NFL. 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we have free agency next week, the draft 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: isn't really all that far away. So a lot of 38 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: different aspects of football to enjoy at this time of 39 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: the year, which is a very nice thing. Cynthia. Let's 40 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: get into it. You release power rankings for the Alliance 41 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: and you have, you know, this math background with which 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: you have a very analytical perspective on these teams, and 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: now that we have four weeks worth of data, it's 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: not as if that really is all that much, but 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: it's maybe close to enough to get some sort of 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,839 Speaker 2: sense of how these teams stack up against each other. 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: I'm curious if you have some thoughts on how you 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: go about creating power rankings for a league that is 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: only four weeks old, and then what those power rankings are. 50 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: Well, the good thing is that most of these coaches 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: have pretty well defined histories, so you can see, you know, 52 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: like what's singletary are going to do? Is he executing 53 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: kind of a Singletary style offense or defense? More appropriately defense, 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: and is it kind of working. The one place I've 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 3: been a little surprised with are the mandatory two point conversions. 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: I thought that coaches would like be just bananas and 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: like throw us like a whole bunch of different what 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call like exotic looks, right, But instead you're 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: getting more kind of traditional things and not as I 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: think that we'll start to see that get more creative. 61 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: But I think, you know, initially and adjusting to the 62 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: rules and the thirty five second play clock, and you know, 63 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: like the all the different things that are a little 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: bit different, like a little bit faster pace, keep the 65 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: pace up, have made for it's it's just been a lot, right, 66 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: Like I thought instead of like between sixty five and 67 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 3: seventy snaps, I thought we'd see more like you know, 68 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: the NFL's like between sixty and sixty five. I thought 69 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: a lot of people like sixty five and seventy. Like 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: it's up more towards eighty for most teams. So it's 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: an interesting pace and keeping that pace up has been fascinating. 72 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: Like you don't like basketball, and but pace is a 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: good one when you're projecting this football league. So ultimately, 74 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: what you're doing is you're looking at the past trends 75 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: of the coaches, and you're looking at, you know, kind 76 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: of who are these players. Some are known entities and 77 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: now we're starting to see trends. We kind of have 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of a profile of who certain players are. 79 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: And luckily, like Garrett Gilbert, we did know him from 80 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: the NFL, so we do have some information. You're not 81 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: starting completely blind, but like you know, like eighty percent blind. 82 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, So give us a sense of your power rankings 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: and how they might differ than just looking at when 84 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: us record and just saying like, okay, the Orlando Apollos 85 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: were the top team in the league, and after that 86 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: you maybe have the Birmingham Iron, what are your power rankings? 87 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: So ultimately I look to see like, you know, everything 88 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: from like like I actually spent a lot of time 89 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: sitting with we we sit in a studio. It's in 90 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: it's in Phoenix. You know, I'm taking you behind the 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: scenes here. It's a green screen, so we're not at 92 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 3: the games, and we sit there for several hours and 93 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: just watch it and go on for like three four minutes. 94 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: So I sat with not only like, I got to 95 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: sit with like Pollion, and I got to sit with, 96 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people who had a huge 97 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: hand in developing these leagues. So going to talk to 98 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 3: those people and asking them, like what attributes are coaches 99 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: valuing like that was very helpful and constructing a model 100 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: that really sees who reflects the strategy they're trying to 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: enact or not. So we knew initially that deep passing, 102 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: the ability to complete deep passes, was going to be 103 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: one of, if not the most important factors. And then 104 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: there's normal football things, right like you know, obviously big 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: plays in general matter, but turnovers, red zone, third down, 106 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 3: all these things that make it more interesting. But we knew, 107 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 3: at least in the beginning because of the rules and 108 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: all the way that it's working that if you can 109 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 3: complete depasses, you have a much better chance of winning. 110 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: And that's played out so like it's really just asking 111 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: the people involved in creating it and using that sort 112 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: of insider perspective to shape a model that really just 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: measures how well someone's executing their game plan versus what 114 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: they intended to do. 115 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: All right, let's look at some of the rush offenses 116 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: and pass offenses, pass defense, rush defense. Who do you 117 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: think right now are the top teams in rush offense? 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: So rushing is interesting because like Salt Lakes starting to 119 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 3: come on, people are these are starting to develop, Like Orlando, 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 3: you don't know who it's going to be. It's always 121 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: a confusing and and then Birmingham, it's like, you know, 122 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: Trent Richardson kind of is being the Trent Richardson we're 123 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: used to seeing from the NFL low yard per carry average, 124 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: high red zone usage, So if you're playing him in fantasy, 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: he's always going to be a good option. And then 126 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: you're kind of seeing some things like the hot shots. 127 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: They're finding their legs because a lot of times it's 128 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: really about who they're playing the matchup more than it 129 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: is about the specific players in this one. So that's 130 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: why like Presley great, like you just you have to 131 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 3: map it. Like I really like Sherman Baty for the 132 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: Memphis Express, Like he's an interesting player in general. Maybe 133 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: not the sexiest fantasy option, but he is a He's 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: one of those who are like, Okay, I'm interested to 135 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: see how he's growing and developing every week, especially after 136 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: the quarterback switch, so he was not like the you know, 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 3: like you obviously use Zach Stacy before and now you're 138 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: kind of seeing more increased usage from him. So rushing 139 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: is not my face, It's a tricky one this one. 140 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 3: It's like are you playing for fantasy purposes? Because then 141 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: you're going to like straight red zone like just straight 142 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: red zone usage. 143 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Thoughts on the different passing offenses that we see. 144 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: Obviously everyone really likes Orlando Steve spurriy or as their 145 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: head coach. There's a lot of run and gun there. 146 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 2: But thoughts on the passing that we are seeing in 147 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: the pass offenses that are catching your eye. 148 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, obviously we have a quarterback change 149 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: that's going to mess things up. So like the hot 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: shots are at a disadvantage because they've had some quarterback injuries. 151 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 3: You know, you've seen that's what happens everywhere. And Garrett 152 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: Gilbert obviously that's Orlando in case you know, we're educating 153 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 3: people in this one. Eric Gilbert started a week seventeen 154 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: for the Panthers. His ability to connect with Charles Johnson 155 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: or any of his receivers, but specifically Charles Johnson is 156 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 3: special and it's the most NFL like that we see. 157 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: But like every quarterback is getting better, Birmingham's quarterback is 158 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: getting better. Arizona obviously they've had some injuries, but their 159 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: situation is getting better. The fleet they're getting better, they're improving. 160 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: It's just look to see if they improve. Basically, here's 161 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: what it is. Can they complete at least three, like 162 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: twenty plus passes in a game? If yes, then they're 163 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: getting better. 164 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: Right. 165 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Can they use play action? If yes, then you're golden, right, 166 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: because the ability to use play action in this league 167 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: is enormously helpful. And to make sure you're not dealing 168 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: with a team who's doing any delayed draws. Delayed draws 169 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: have been the killer for this league as well. So 170 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: those are kind of my three ways to look at 171 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: it like Louis Perez is getting better every week, right, 172 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: He's starting to understand play action and execute it. I 173 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: think this week he'll even get better, even though you know, 174 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: like look like they had a rough week last week, 175 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: but I think it'll keep getting better. 176 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was so. 177 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: High in Louis Perez to start the season, and I 178 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 4: hope he gets going. I mean he's he doesn't have 179 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 4: the passing touchdown yet, but he's on in the ends 180 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: on the two point conversion, so I will to give 181 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: him a little bit of slack there. It's tough when 182 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: te Richards just getting the ball every time with the 183 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: one yard line. But you mentioned before how much this 184 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: a lot of its matchup base, you know, week to week, 185 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: So like how much evidence only four week sample size 186 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 4: would you put into like a really bad run defense 187 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: like san Antonio when trying to project who's going to 188 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 4: be the best fantasy running backster next week. 189 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: So it's interesting because a lot of it has to 190 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: do with like linebacker play. So I've noticed what I 191 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: because like one week san Antonio looks like it's the 192 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: worst pass defense, the next week it looks like it's 193 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: the worst run defense. So it's kind of like like, 194 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: look to see if they're playing zone versus man, and 195 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: I've just been looking to see, like all right, Like 196 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: the way I break it down is like have they 197 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: been able to execute man? If yes, then they're not 198 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 3: going to do a good then then it's going to 199 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: be a rough day for the Like I think the 200 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 3: Orlando Apollos this week, I think they get their first loss. 201 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: My hot take here the undefeated Orlando Apollos, but they're 202 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: playing brooming. Birmingham's past defense is the best. It's the 203 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: best pass defense in and it's the most consistent as well. 204 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 3: So those two attributes together are good. You've seen Birmingham 205 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: be susceptible to deep run plays. Okay, Well, if you're 206 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 3: taking care of the pass against the Orlando A, Paul's like, 207 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 3: you're going to be in good shape. So that's why 208 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: I would downgrade all. You know, Like I love Charles Johnson, 209 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite players in the entire league, 210 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 3: but it's not a love thing. It's a fantasy thing, right, 211 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: So that's how I would view that. And then like 212 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 3: the linebacker play is it's very interesting, right, like these 213 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: are the positions that get better slower think about like, 214 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: you know, linebackers or quarterbacks on defense. So the quarterbacks 215 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 3: on defense are going to get better each game. If 216 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: they haven't seen a lot of passes, then it's going 217 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 3: to take them a minute to figure out how their 218 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: coverages work. If they haven't seen a lot of runs, 219 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: then it's going to take them a minute to figure 220 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,359 Speaker 3: out how their coverages work. So it's a volume times 221 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 3: man versus zone. 222 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 5: I mean, thank you mentioned al Rdy. 223 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: Birmingham's pretty much ben the premiere past defense so far. 224 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm watching Jama Summer's run press man all game. 225 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 5: It's great. He's logging down everyone, making them well you. 226 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: Can play man. It's deep passing and ability to execute 227 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: coverage like man defense. Then that's how you win games, 228 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: you know, Like that's that's it. 229 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: That's just this handcuff and the opposing quarterbacks at that 230 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: point you can get extra resources to the box. Are 231 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: there any other pass defenses though that kind of stand 232 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: out to you out than Birmingham? I know, Orlando, Keith Reeser, 233 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 4: Marquez White. They got some ballers over there as well, 234 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: and Arizona's got some pretty good numbers as well. 235 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Terrence Garvin being out for Orlando is 236 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: a problem. So Terrence Garvin went to West Virginia and 237 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: he was a safety. I believe there he was definitely 238 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: defensive back. I can't remember. I'm pretty sure he was 239 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: a safe converted to linebacker ahead of going to the NFL. 240 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: Until last week he was leading the league in interceptions. 241 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: And I got a chance to ask Rod Woodson. Again. 242 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 3: We're sitting in this like small room all day, so 243 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, Rod, teach me something, teach me anything. So, 244 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: you know, we sit there and we talk about how 245 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 3: that conversion works, and he had the most interception. He's 246 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: a really big key to that entire defense. So Orlando's passing, 247 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 3: it's their defense as a whole, like very much. You know, 248 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: Terrence Garvin centered, So he he's an interesting one. And 249 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: then Arizona as well. The problem with Arizona is if 250 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: they get down and teams are throwing like obvious throat 251 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: like passing situations, they're not as good in those, right. 252 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: So that's where I get a little bit shaky on 253 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: that because they allow the deep passes when they're down, 254 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: which is when you can't or when they're up, and 255 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: you know what, I mean like when it's extreme scores, 256 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: they allow deep passes, so that's my like when they're 257 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: close scores, they're better. I have no idea why, but 258 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 3: that's their trend. I can't tell you why. I can 259 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: tell you that it is or it has been for 260 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: four weeks. 261 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 4: I have one last question on these pass defenses because 262 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 4: it's always kind of a you know, the cornerbacks. 263 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 5: The reason or is a pass rush to reason? I 264 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 5: don't know from watching them. 265 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: I think San Diego has kind of emerged in my 266 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 4: opinion as one of the best pass rushes, especially especially 267 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: as long as the mantre more is out there and healthy. 268 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: But any other defenses that you've just been impressed to 269 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: how often they get the quarterback. 270 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: So Connor Schultz for the Salt Lakes Stallions, he's an impressive, 271 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: an impressive guy. He Northern Iowa products. He he's interesting 272 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: for me because they've been chipping him, like they've taking 273 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: bringing tight ends in to try to stop him. He's 274 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: still been getting good pressure at a quarterback, so it he's 275 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: he's been impressive. I think Salt Lake is like low 276 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 3: key underrated, you know, like they're better than they might 277 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: they might seem they were tied for first place in 278 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: the West. I mean, these are ridiculous things to say 279 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: after three weeks, but again, like again, it's my life, 280 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: so I can't think it's ridiculous, right, Like I spend 281 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: time doing it, I might as well like it all. 282 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: Right, So, Cynthia, you probably spend as much time watching 283 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: Alliance football as anyone else. Are there a couple of 284 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: players that you've seen and thought, you know that that 285 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: person has a shot at the NFL this next season, 286 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: or that person really should be in the NFL? 287 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: So I got a chance at the I was at 288 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: the combine last week, so I got a chance to 289 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: talk to some like gms and coaches, and I said, like, 290 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 3: who do I like? They asked me that exact question, 291 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: and then they asked me, like, you know why so? 292 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: And I said, you know, look the profile I think 293 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: that will fit the easiest sell to the NFL. Are 294 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: these guys who maybe they're there? They went to a 295 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: smaller school. Charles Johnson's a good example. He ended up 296 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 3: graduating from Grand Valley State University, and that's in you know, 297 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 3: Grand Rapids, Michigan, so that's nowhere you know big, and 298 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: he had a shot in the NFL, it got to 299 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: be the right age. So the profile is like young enough, 300 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: like being able to compete at the level that the 301 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 3: team believes, and then a small school that because like 302 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: Trent Richardson, it's a lot harder for a team. They 303 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: already kind of know what they're getting with him, so 304 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 3: they either wanted him or not right like that, that 305 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 3: was kind of and I'm not taking anything away from 306 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: him because he's had a great season, but he's a 307 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: little like less of the profile. So like the Sherman 308 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 3: Batties who's actually also on the Iron, the Birmingham Iron, 309 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: the Charles Johnson's, you know, the the Connor Schultz, the 310 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 3: guys who are smaller schools, young enough to still have 311 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: a lot of tread on the tires, or at least 312 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: for teams to feel comfortable with the risk that they'd 313 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: be taking from a player who's you know, like there's 314 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 3: a lot of good free agents out there and there's 315 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 3: a lot of people in their drafts, so if you're 316 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: gonna kind of sell your team on an AAF player, 317 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: they have to be the right profile. So I think 318 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: guys like that, I think the center for the I 319 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: could be a good one too. If these O lignemen develop, 320 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 3: I think they have a huge advantage in terms of 321 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: translating to the NFL, because there's a huge shortage I know, 322 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: you know all about that, like huge shortage of like 323 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: really good like O line play pass protections not something 324 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: everybody knows, like, so that could be a good use 325 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: for these players too. 326 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that's interesting and great point there on 327 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: offensive linemen. So many times people think about skill position players, 328 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: but uh yeah, I wouldn't say there's a shortage of 329 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: offensive linemen, but anyone who can who can play well 330 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: at the position has a shot. 331 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: I genuinely there's a shortage of people who truly play 332 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: understand pass protection concepts, because that's not not all colleges 333 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 3: are teaching that anymore. So that type of thing is 334 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: like a huge advantage for a team who maybe doesn't 335 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: have like the best O line. Like if you already 336 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: know pass pro great, Like that's like it's like anyone's resume, right, 337 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: Like if if you already have experience coding in you know, Python, great, 338 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't need to teach you that even better, Like 339 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: you get a step ahead of people, you know, that 340 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 341 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's jump into the action for this weekend. 342 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: In the first game on Saturday, the best game of 343 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: the weekend, we have the Orleando Apollos at the Birmingham Iron, 344 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: the two best teams in the league. No lines have 345 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: been released for this game. We're projecting the Apollos to 346 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: win by four to five points and we think the 347 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: game total will be around forty ian Any quick injury 348 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: news and notes for this game. 349 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, First off, note this game starts at two pm 350 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: Eastern Time. Ben seeing a lot of four o'clock on Saturdays, 351 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 4: so don't miss this one people. 352 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 5: It's gonna be a good one. 353 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: Quickly. 354 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: Birmingham, so the. 355 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 4: Receivers are banged up, but I would note that we've 356 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: seen them have a lot of guys limited practice early 357 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 4: in the week this season that have gone on to play. 358 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: So Quintin Patten with an ankle, la Damian Washington with 359 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 4: a growing tight end, West Saxon ankle. They were all 360 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 4: limited on Wednesday, but not really expecting any of those 361 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: guys to ultimately sit out a at the twow Sorry 362 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: for butchering your name, bro. 363 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: But oh did a good job. 364 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 5: Hey, there we go. He had a knee injury. 365 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: He hasn't played since Week one's not practicing, so I'll 366 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: have to keep an eye on these injured receivers because 367 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: they seem when they do get healthy, they come back 368 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: into the lineup at a really cheap price in fantasy. 369 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 4: Richard Mulaney is a guy we'll talk about later at 370 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: that but looking like that won't be the week for him. 371 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: Then quickly, for Orlando you said earlier, Cynthia, I'm in 372 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: the backfield's kind of been a full blown committee all season. 373 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 4: But Kim Hunt was limited with a foot injury after 374 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: maybe his best game of the year, so I'll be 375 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: interesting to see if he ends up suiting up this weekend. 376 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: But Terrence Garvin obviously you know, as you said, and 377 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 4: one of the best cover linebackers in the league. 378 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 5: He was able to get in a limited practice. 379 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 4: On Wednesday, so he does appear to be trending back 380 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: towards suiting up this week. 381 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the matchups and Cynthia, your 382 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: thoughts on this Orlando offense going against the Birmingham defense 383 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: and how they match up. 384 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: So this is like this is like a bad matchup 385 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 3: for Orlando for sure. Orlando's great and very very reliably 386 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: great in passing situations, and the Birmingham Iron are reliably 387 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: great Jamrs Summers especially to mind like, reliably great at 388 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: stopping the past. So it's strength versus strength in this one, 389 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 3: and in this league, we've seen defense have the advantage 390 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: when it's strength versus strength in our huge sample size 391 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: of four whole games. But you know each but but 392 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: we've seen at least so far defense is had the advantage. However, 393 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: I will say if there was a quarterback that could 394 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 3: buck that trend, it would probably be here at Gilbert. 395 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: But again I already told you what at where I 396 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 3: stand on that. I definitely think it's it's hard to 397 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: win on the road in this league too, So that's 398 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: something to take into consideration too. 399 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ian thoughts on this matchup. 400 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 5: Strength for strength. 401 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 4: I'm a little more inclined to trust Gilbert just because 402 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 4: of how much better this Orlando offense I think has 403 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 4: been than any other team in the league. I mean, 404 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 4: the Birmingham pass defense, same thing. I mean, I felt 405 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: like they going to last week was a really good 406 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: week for them because they had that Atlanta Gamerly, they 407 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: had a Memphis gamer early against not really strong competition. 408 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: They showed last week the secondary can still hold up 409 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 4: and they even you know, had one of the longest 410 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 4: goal line stands. 411 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 5: I think I've ever seen down there for a stretch. 412 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: So I think it is a strong defense. 413 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,719 Speaker 4: But I'm just inclined to think this Orlando offense is 414 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: so much better than everyone else. I think they can 415 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 4: at least put up points in I don't know if 416 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: I can say the same about this Birmingham offense. 417 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 5: So uh oh man, Yeah, it's tough. 418 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: But last thing with this Orlando offense, real quick, we 419 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: mentioned a Keem Hunts injury. Maybe I think we should 420 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: assume he's going to play. The ernest Johnson started the 421 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: last two weeks, but he was kind of splitting time 422 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 4: with the Keem hunt Debian Smith has kind of been 423 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: the short yardage goal on guy all season. He's a 424 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: little more than that, and he was definitely utilizing that 425 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: snowy climate they had last week. But what are your 426 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 4: thoughts in this backfield of moving forward, Cynthia, and like, 427 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 4: which running back would you target for fantasy? 428 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: This one's hard because Denis Johnson is the one that 429 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: I would volume wise, like I like volume that it 430 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 3: just feels safe but you're right, he's not really the 431 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: red zone situation that they have. So if a team 432 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: isn't playing, then Denis Johnson to me, even though the 433 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: red zone again hasn't been great, But I do think 434 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: in this game you could have a deep run that 435 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 3: goes that busts beyond, like you know, it doesn't doesn't 436 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: need to necessarily be like the goal line stand because 437 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: the Iron are really good in their red zone anyway, 438 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 3: so they're probably going to try to get those deep 439 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 3: passes or deep runs or like just hit the home run. 440 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: They wouldn't try to do that. I would imagine a 441 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: bit more in this one, just because of the fact 442 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: that you know, look, Iron and the red zone are 443 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: like just they're the best in the league. So Denis 444 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 3: Johnson's the safest one for me, I would maybe look elsewhere. 445 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 3: I actually, like, I'm telling you this game, I think 446 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: it could be the Sherman Batty sort of breakout situation 447 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 3: if you want to be risky. And that's obviously on 448 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: the other side of the ball. But you're like, look, 449 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: Trent Richardson's scoring all the touchdowns. He loves scoring touchdowns 450 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: a so I does. But I think if you want 451 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: like maybe an interesting and interesting trip because the coaches 452 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: told me they like, we love Baty, We're trying to 453 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: get him worked in more, baby Baby Beaty. 454 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: Well yeah, let's talk about the other side of the 455 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 2: ball here. So the question is if the defense for 456 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: Birmingham is able to slow down a little bit, the 457 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 2: Orlando apollos is there often still going to be able 458 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: to score enough points to keep them in the game. 459 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: What is your thought on this offense versus the Orlando defense. 460 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 3: So the Birmingham offense, OK, right, so you got your 461 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: Trent Richardson, right, but like you like you have your 462 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: Lararius Perkins his backup, you got your Quinton Patten. I 463 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 3: think to me, it's like Trent's safe. I told you, 464 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: I like my sleeper from a different game for a 465 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 3: running back better. So if you're not going to go 466 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: Trent Richardson, then you're going to go within the other direction. 467 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: This is a low scoring game. I'm not going to 468 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: target a ton of people for fantasy in this one, 469 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: just because, to be perfectly honest with you, I think 470 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 3: it's going to be the lowest. I just think they're 471 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 3: going to keep it real. Like I think it's going 472 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 3: to stay real. Oh, like, I think there's going to 473 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 3: maybe be like, like the scores will be something like 474 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: twelve to eighteen. I love weird scores, so we're only 475 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: going to do weird ones. But you know, like, I 476 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: think that's the I think that's the kind of cadence 477 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: that you should expect in this game. Low scoring, So 478 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 3: don't don't spend too much time over analyzing it, right, 479 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: Like I look for sleepers elsewhere. 480 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of Synthia here. 481 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we're probably talking about the two best secondaries 482 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 4: in the league both playing in this game, and if 483 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 4: you can't create explosive plays, it's going to be hard 484 00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: to put up. 485 00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 5: Too many points. 486 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: The Trent Richardson thing this week is interesting because he's 487 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: been playing so many more snaps than anyone else that 488 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: he just you got to put him in fancy even 489 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 4: if he has fifty percent exposure to all these lineups. 490 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: But then last week we see he did play season 491 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 4: low fifty eight. 492 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 5: Percent of snaps. 493 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't really think there's exactly a 494 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: changing of the guard coming on, but we did see 495 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: something they tell you. 496 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 3: I'm telling you something's up there. 497 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 4: I mean, Brandon Ross out carried him and it was like, 498 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: how many times can you watch the same running back 499 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: average two point five yards per carry until you do 500 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: something about it. So I will say, I mean, Richardson, 501 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 4: I still have five catches. Like, he's looked really good 502 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: as a receiver this year once he gets in the 503 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 4: open field, just been hard to come by, I think 504 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: in the middle of the box. But I'm hoping he 505 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: might have a little bit reduced ownership this week so 506 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: we can jump on it. But it's so tough to 507 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 4: look behind the offenses here. 508 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Yeah, I mean, I just think, like, 509 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 3: I'm not going to spend too much time over analyzing 510 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: this one, like just because I just don't think there's 511 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: gonna be a ton of points here. You know, Garrett 512 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 3: Gilbert's the best one. He's the safest quarterback, sure absolutely, 513 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like Trent Richardson, He's gonna 514 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: be safe, sure like, but not I don't like safe. 515 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 3: That's not sexy, it's not fun. So he yeah, football, 516 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: it's supposed to be fun, right. 517 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 2: So, Cynthia, you mentioned that it's hard for teams, at 518 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: least so far, and what we've seen teams to win 519 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 2: on the road. You like the Birmingham defense, So I'm 520 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 2: assuming that means that you are thinking the Iron have 521 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: a real chance of winning this game. 522 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 3: I think the Iron pull off the upset. I think 523 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 3: it's hard to win out all of your games, like 524 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 3: in any sport at any time. So this is the 525 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: best matchup. And the Iron are coming off a loss, 526 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: their first loss, like kind of an unexpected one. You know, 527 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 3: the Paull's played in the snow last week, Like not 528 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 3: saying that that really matters, but you know, it's another 529 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 3: road situation, like it's like it's tricky, it's going to 530 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: be I just think this is the time where that 531 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: defense just shines because we saw we saw last week 532 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: the Apollo's like got the Stallings, slowed them down. So 533 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 3: it's not like they're infallible, right they didn't look like 534 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: they weren't scoring like eighteen thousand points right like they were. 535 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: They kind of had to win in the fourth quarter, 536 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't like a big blowout, all right. 537 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 2: Ian, which way are you leaning? 538 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 539 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: I think the I mean our projected lines I think 540 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 4: are pretty spot on at the moment. I kind of 541 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: tend to take that under the total what is going 542 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: to be because it does seem. 543 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 5: Like a low scoring game environment. 544 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: And I mean, if you have two of the best 545 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: teams in the league, and I think we kind of 546 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 4: assume they're going to be in a close game. So yeah, 547 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 4: I'm more in client to take a chance on the 548 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: total I think in the spread. 549 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, so that seems like a potential spot 550 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: to make money. Speaking of which, I want to tell 551 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: you about Robinhood. 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Robinhood 567 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: is giving listeners of the Action Network NFL podcast a 568 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: freestock like Apple, Ford or Sprint to help you build 569 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,719 Speaker 2: your portfolio. Sign up at Action dot robinhood dot com. 570 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: All right, let's get back to the Alliance. The second 571 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 2: game on Saturday, the Salt Lake Stallions at the San 572 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: Diego Fleet, I mean, not the most enticing game in 573 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 2: the world, but Cynthia, as you mentioned earlier, the Salt 574 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 2: Lake Stallions are a little bit potentially undervalued relative to 575 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: how they've performed record wise so far. Ian any injury 576 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: news and notes. 577 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, a couple of notes from both teams. 578 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 4: Biggest one San Diego starting quarterback Philip Nelson out and 579 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 4: definitely fracture is claviical. 580 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: So we're going back to the Mike Broocovici show. 581 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 4: Everyone saw Mike get his helmet pretty much thrown twenty 582 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 4: yards across the field in week one, really tough out. 583 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: First, I watched that his chin strap wasn't on. 584 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 5: Oh what quarterbacks are always doing? 585 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: That? 586 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: They got their mouth guards hanging out. 587 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 4: That's a lesson, but yeah, so's gonna be back out there. 588 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: I think he's in a better position now. But we'll 589 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: get into that more a little bit later. But good 590 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: news for San Diego at least the Mantre Mora, one 591 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: of the best pass rushers in the league. As we 592 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 4: said earlier, he was able to practice in full on Wednesday, 593 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: expecting him to return. Linebacker aj Tarpley is still sidelined 594 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: with a back injury, so we'd be nice to get 595 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 4: him back, but might not be able to this week. 596 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: On the Salt Lake side of things, Brandon Oliver seemed 597 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: to kind of take over the backfield last week, unfortunately 598 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 4: got a groin injury wasn't able to open up the 599 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: week with the practice. So we're looking at Joel Blagnon 600 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 4: and Trell Newby potentially forming a two back committee. They 601 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 4: also signed a guy named Nick Holly, and we haven't 602 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: got matt as Seattle waiting in the wings, so we'll 603 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 4: see how they end up forming that committee for this week. 604 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: All right, So we have right now Salt Lake projected 605 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 2: to win by a point or two. We have a 606 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: pretty low game total of around thirty eight points. Cynthia 607 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: start by looking at the Salt Lake offense against the 608 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: San Diego defense. What do you think of that matchup? 609 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: Salt Lake? I actually think both these teams are like 610 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: coming on. Yes, it's a horrible like we talked about earlier, 611 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: like quarterback injuries are just really hard in this one. 612 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,479 Speaker 3: And yes, Bercovici like he started, but then he didn't, 613 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: and then he like, and they were looking better and 614 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: then like Mike Martz and Stell's a a notably confusing 615 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 3: offense for ever, like that's his thing, So they're starting 616 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 3: to catch on. So that leads me to believe that, 617 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: you know, this is going to be trickier. I think 618 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: Salt Lake does get the win. Salt Lake's been looking 619 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: great lately, like they're they're like coming up, you know, 620 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: like they obviously did at last week to the Apollos, 621 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: but they looked great, and I think stopping the run 622 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 3: is like something they do really well. And also the 623 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: fleet is you know, their defense is now going up 624 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 3: against the best offensive line in the AAF, so that's 625 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: going to be tricky for them to you know, kind 626 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 3: of overcome as well. 627 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: All right, Ian, what your thoughts on the matchup? 628 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 4: I think this sets up pretty nice for Salt Lake 629 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: because I mentioned before I think San Diego has the 630 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: best pass rush. But the one thing Josh Woodham has 631 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 4: consistently done good this year is get the ball out 632 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: of his hand quickly. I mean he has easily the 633 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: quickest average release time, And I mean we've seen the 634 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 4: morn A Pearson l work out of the slot and 635 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: just continuously kind of get fed these short crossing routes, 636 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: and you know, it hasn't produced the most big play, 637 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 4: but it's also been pretty much turnover free and it's 638 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: been an efficient offense, especially when paired with their running games. 639 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: So I think they do have the tools to move 640 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 4: the ball on the San Diego defense. I guess my 641 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 4: kind of question here that I'm trying to figure out 642 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 4: is one what the committee will look like without Oliver. 643 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: I think Trell Newby could actually be the fantasy guy 644 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 4: we want, considering he's more of the pass catcher. 645 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 5: And two who the number one. 646 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 4: Receiver is because it looks like it's Pearsonelle, but he's 647 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: also been stuck to the slot. And we've seen Kenny 648 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 4: Bell and Kale and Clay come back in these last 649 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 4: two weeks and really be more of a. 650 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 5: Factor than we saw before. 651 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: So Cinthy, I'm curious if you had to pick some 652 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 4: like fantasy factors from the Salt Lake offense, who you're 653 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: looking at. 654 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 3: I like Clay, I think. I mean again, I'm not 655 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: always going like the most like volume guy, because the 656 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: Nebraska guy Pearsonel He's he's been there, go to you 657 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: guy for volume. But I think that sets up nicely 658 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: for Clay. He think he's been coming on strong in 659 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: the past few weeks. And again it's not a good 660 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 3: defense to target when it comes to passing, but not 661 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 3: necessarily because of like their old line is, it's the 662 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 3: biggest and they have played the best in terms of 663 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: giving some time. And I think I think it does 664 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 3: Sad I'm with you. I think I also think that 665 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: you know, Salt Lake wins by a considerable amount, maybe 666 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: like three or four points, not necessarily just one. So 667 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: I think it sets up nicely for you know, some passing. 668 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 3: Don't overestimate their passing. That's not the way it's going 669 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 3: to be. Just that they're just that's not there, that's 670 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 3: not their profile. And then I think you got to 671 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 3: look at the running back situations. Tricky for me because 672 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: I think like it started off Buanio and then you know, 673 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: you got like then you got Oliver and then you like, 674 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 3: for fantasy purposes, you want a guy who catches the ball. 675 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: But like, now we went back Blondie, Like, what are 676 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: we doing here? You know what I mean? So it's 677 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 3: it's tricky, but I would go with the safer pick 678 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: in that suite situation. But again the volume play might 679 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 3: be blan Yo. 680 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, Cynthia, what about San Diego offense versus the 681 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: Salt Lake defense. 682 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: San Diego offense, so always Mike Martz is always going 683 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 3: to try to pass the hell out of the ball. 684 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 3: In their preseason game, Bercovici had I want to say, 685 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: four turnovers, it could have been five, and they passed. 686 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: They kept passing their way to win that it was 687 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: a preseason game, but essentially the same as the regular game. 688 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 3: Like so they kept you know, they did a bunch 689 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: of turnovers. Like do not like stay away from Burga Vich. 690 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting you play him in fantasy, but you 691 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 3: could look to target as a as a pure upside situation, 692 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 3: you could look to target, like even Gavin Escobar is 693 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: one that flags for me. The tight end. So yeah, 694 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: I just think Gavin Escobar could be a good pickup 695 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: for especially for your tight end position, just because they 696 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 3: think him and Bercovicci had a good chemistry prior to 697 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: Bergovicci getting replaced earlier on the season. 698 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's amazing how much Mike marsh is again those 699 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: tight ends involved, and we saw Marcus Ball have a 700 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: really good game last week as well. 701 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: Well. They're taller than all their wide receivers, so all 702 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: the tight ends, there's no none of their wide receivers 703 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 3: are taller than their tight ends. Their tight ends are 704 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: like an inch or too taller than every single one 705 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 3: of their receivers, which is a very Mike March thing 706 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: to do for sure. 707 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: I think it's also cuteos to Mike mars for, you know, 708 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: using the talent at his disposal. And we saw Escobar 709 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: with the Cowboys, he was kind of more of the 710 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 4: slot tight end while Witton was in line than Marcus 711 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: Ball at Ohio State did a few things like that 712 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: as well. So one part I want to look at. 713 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 4: I know, you know, Mike Marx is always going to 714 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: pass the ball, like you said, but this run game 715 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 4: was one of the few backfields. We had a grip 716 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 4: on it. I mean, Gardners looked like the best running 717 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 4: back in the league. What didn't have a good last week, 718 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 4: but Tarrell Watson definitely, uh you know, being a physical, 719 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: grounded pounder as well. Here's the problem, Bishop Sankie, our 720 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 4: old friend is coming back from ir this week, and 721 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 4: now he's getting thrown to this mess. So do you 722 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 4: think Gardner and Watson are still going to kind of 723 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: be the two guys or are sank He going to 724 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: have a pretty immediate rule. 725 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: I think it's Gardner, Like I think, I don't think 726 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna put a dent in Gardner's reps. I think 727 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: it'll if anything, it will be other people like it's Gardner, 728 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 3: and then maybe we could like rotate other people. That's 729 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: kind of how I That's what I would agin. Yeah, 730 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: I think he trust Jakwon Gartner the most. 731 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, logically all of that makes sense because of what 732 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: Gardner has done. And then I think Watson is also 733 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: a kind of undervalued guy. But I am a Bishop 734 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 2: Sanki truther going back a half decade, So I'm just 735 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: gonna be the lone person on this bandwagon thinking that 736 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: at some point He's going to have one game that's 737 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: really good and then I can take my victory lap 738 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 2: at that point and then off the bandwagon forever. So Cynthia, 739 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: you said you like Salt Lake for this game, Ian, 740 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts. 741 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: I lean towards San Diego here. I think Brokeovici is 742 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 4: entering a much better situation. They have started to run 743 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: the ball a little bit more since I think week two, 744 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: week three, that was what Philip Nelson. So maybe Mike 745 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: Mars just goes back to chucking the ball around because 746 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: he did so in the preseason, like Cynthia said, and 747 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: also week one when I you know they would run 748 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 4: the ball well, but still just kind of refuse to 749 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 4: do it. But I think san Diego defense, especially again 750 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 4: the entre more back, will be enough to hold off 751 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 4: Lake and you know, getting points at home of I'll 752 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: take San Diego all right. 753 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: So on Sunday we have two games, the first one 754 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: Memphis Express at the Atlanta Legends, which is probably the 755 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: least inspiring game of the weekend. We have the Memphis 756 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: right now projected to win by about a point, and 757 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: another low scoring game we were thinking around thirty eight 758 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 2: and a half combined points ian any injury news and notes. 759 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 4: Well, I will correct you. This would have been the 760 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: worst game of the weekend two weeks ago. But now 761 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: we've got some good quarterbacks playing. 762 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 5: We got Zach. 763 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 4: Mettenberger, Aaron Murray sec season. Maybe that's my mistake here. 764 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: Now wonderful teams because they have two quarterbacks. 765 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: Wonderful. 766 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: Yes, you're forgiven. Okay, So with quick injury notes. Atlanta 767 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: they're scat back Ackham Widley, who he saw have a 768 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: bunch of receptions last few weeks. He hit the ir 769 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: with the knee injuries, so one less guy to worry 770 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 4: about there. And Lawrence Pittman they're kind of fourth RB 771 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: has an ankle injury and he's looking iffy as well, 772 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: so so I'm gonna keep an eye on. We do 773 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 4: have confirmation, if there's any out, that Aaron Murray will 774 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: be the starting quarterback over Matt Sims, so that's good 775 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 4: to know. And then for Memphis, they signed a running 776 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: back Darryl Virgie's I'm not exactly maybe they're not happy 777 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 4: with Stacy. 778 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not exactly sure what's going on there, 779 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 5: but some keep an eye on. 780 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: And they waived their wide receiver baby and Guerrero apologies. 781 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 4: I know he was kind of, you know, a season 782 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 4: long darling in the before the season got going, we 783 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 4: had no idea what the death charts would be, so 784 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 4: that sucks for. 785 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: Anyone that got him. 786 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: But goodness is the Mettenburger era is still alive and well, 787 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 4: if you guys can't tell, I'm all in on Memphis now. 788 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Memphis Mettenburger era has been going strong 789 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: for what is it like a game? 790 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, game and a half, That's what I'm talking about. 791 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so long lived metten Burger Cynthia. Any thoughts on 792 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: what we're going to see out of this Memphis offense 793 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: going against Atlanta defense. 794 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: And I made it clear that I really like Sherman Baty, 795 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: especially since I talked about him like all like in 796 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 3: all of the games, because he's He's the guy who 797 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: I think this is. I think this is the time 798 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: we get Like I told you, I would go anything 799 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 3: over even over the most you know, the Iron who 800 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: have the most stable running back in terms of fantasy. 801 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: I think this is the Sherman Baty week. Like Sherman Baty, 802 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: Sherman Baty one more time, Sherman Batty, like I'm in. 803 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: The coaches told me they liked him. I think this 804 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: is him giving his getting his chance in this matchup, 805 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 3: especially against the legend. 806 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 2: All right, Ian, what do you think here? 807 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 4: I think Cynthy might be onto something. I mean, Zach 808 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: Stacy's been the guy there. He played sixty five percent 809 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: snaps last week, but we've had two straight games, right, 810 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: really hasn't gotten anything going on the ground and they 811 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 4: need some type of sparks. So yeah, I could definitely 812 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: see them making a change there sooner rather than later. 813 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: I'm trying to figure out these wide receivers a little 814 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 4: bit too, though. I mean the whole kind of offense 815 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 4: is a bit muddled with the quarterback switch and all that. 816 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: Last week we had Reye Horn, Alton Pig Howard great nickname, 817 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 4: and Dantes Byrd in the three wide receiver sets. Cynthia 818 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 4: kind of wondering who your preferences they're made from a 819 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 4: fantasy perspective. I think Reye Horn's kind of the fact 820 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 4: on number one, but he might not be like the 821 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 4: most explosive guy. 822 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's volume wise. You think that's the pick, 823 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 3: but like I I don't know. I think I like 824 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 3: the pig guy. He's an interesting one. So the legend 825 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 3: their defense can be targeted on the perimeter. So whomever 826 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: you think you are going to get that advantage on 827 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: the perimeter with, like, that's who you should be going for. 828 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: So for me, it's hard because the routes that they've 829 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: run have been a lot of different ones. It's very singletary, 830 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: right like it's like, well, you're going to do a post, 831 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 3: You're going to do a go like then now you're 832 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: gonna do the post. Like it's just very like normal. 833 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 3: So I don't know that one's like buyer beware. But 834 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 3: whoever you think is going to be the perimeter guy, 835 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: that's the one that you should have your theory on. 836 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 2: All right, Cynthia, what about the Atlanta offense against the 837 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 2: Memphis defense. 838 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what we're going to get, Like, 839 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: let me be completely clear, Like that could be a 840 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: benefit in the sense of it you can't really gain 841 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 3: plan for it. But if you're talking about like pure 842 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 3: like fantasy strategy, it's a very risky strategy, right Like 843 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 3: if you think, you know, I think, sure, great, go ahead, 844 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: but it's you know, it's very risky. So here's the 845 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Atlanta's had one shoes. So remember Michael 846 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 3: Vick left, Childress left. They've had like five or six 847 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 3: different people with their hands in this offense and it's 848 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: been four weeks. So it's kind of chaotic, right, And 849 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: so that's not It's like when you're playing in the 850 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: NFL and you're trying to and aj Green's not playing 851 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 3: and you're trying to figure out like which Cincinnati receiver 852 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 3: to figure out, like good luck, you know, Like I 853 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 3: don't know, you know. So that's the kind of thing too. 854 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 3: That's kind of my comp for that. 855 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 4: It's been such a mess there all year. I mean 856 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 4: it was even Matt Simms. I mean I wasn't I 857 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: didn't think he'd be good going in the year, but 858 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: he actually had a really good Week three. I think 859 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 4: he was kind of in a no win situation. I mean, 860 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 4: Aaron Murray kind of took his job not but yeah, 861 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm with you in terms of trying to take advantage 862 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 4: of this. 863 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 5: It's just such a mess everywhere. We had seven wide. 864 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 4: Receivers last week played between thirty one and fifty three 865 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: percent of the snaps, so it's just hard to tell 866 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 4: who's gonna be out there, and the running back committee's 867 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 4: kind of been evolving all year. I think Terran Foulston 868 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 4: might be the one guy we could look at. He 869 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 4: had seven targets last week and that might hold up 870 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 4: now that we know Wadley's not gonna be playing. 871 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, I think the better answer. 872 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 3: You need to know. You need to know when you're 873 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 3: doing this the return that you're expecting, right, Like, sure, 874 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: go for the guy that got the hardest target but 875 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: highest targets, but you're playing in a situation, what return 876 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 3: are you expecting from this person? You know what I mean? 877 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: And anything more than that's upside, right, So I don't know, 878 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 3: Like this is just the offense, Like why didn't Murray 879 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 3: start at the beginning of the season. That scares me, right, 880 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 3: Like Hackenberg started over Mettenberger. Because Hackenberg has played on 881 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 3: several NFL teams. That one was clear, right, and they 882 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 3: were trying to give him another chance. They were trying 883 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 3: to make it work. But like Murray, you would have 884 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 3: thought he would have been the starter. 885 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 5: He has the hometown thing too. It made no. 886 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,359 Speaker 3: Sense, right, So that gives me huge pause because you're 887 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 3: like the guy with the biggest name, Like because Usually 888 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: the way that it's worked is that the guy with 889 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: the biggest names at least started week one. This is 890 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 3: now week five, So I don't know mess mess. 891 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: Messan anyway that you were leaning on this game. 892 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, give me the Express. Simply just said stay 893 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 4: away from the Mess and stay with the Express. 894 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 895 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 3: I think the Express are a better team than their 896 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 3: record would suggest, right, Like, I think they were a 897 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: little slow to switch their quarterback, and I think they 898 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 3: were and they're figuring out their offense, you know, like look, 899 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: Singletary is ground and pound, Like he's the best looking 900 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 3: into in his starter jacket by far. Nobody looks better 901 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 3: in that starter jacket than him. So apart from you know, like, 902 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 3: I think they're kind of like making their way with this, 903 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 3: but I think they're better than their records suggest. They 904 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,719 Speaker 3: don't feel like they should have the record that they have, 905 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: you know. 906 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 4: Even when they were getting killed in those Hackenberg games, 907 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 4: like it was usually a close game till the fourth quarter, 908 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 4: and then I mean defense on the field the whole 909 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: time hard to kind of uh, right. 910 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 3: It's good, But if they're playing the whole time like 911 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,760 Speaker 3: they think about it, that's ten more snaps at least 912 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: on either side. Then you're used to in an NFL 913 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 3: game and it's fast. Thirty five seconds for the play 914 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 3: clock is fast, and the timeout situation is way different 915 00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: in every like it's just a lot more and you 916 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 3: don't get to take special teams off. So there you go, 917 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: you know, like it's just a lot on the field. 918 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 2: Cynthia, that sounds pretty smart. You are a pretty smart person. 919 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: Did you read a lot of books in your formative years? 920 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess, except I was like kind of 921 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 3: like I'm like a dorky smart, but like I'm more 922 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: like a math person. Like I'm I'm writing, like I 923 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: have to write an article later today, and I'm like 924 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 3: sitting here like thinking of fifteen reasons to get out 925 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: of it. But you could ask me to code for 926 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 3: six hours and I'd be like, sure, let's go, you know, 927 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 3: Like so, yeah, I read a lot, and like I 928 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: guess I'm smart, but like it's it's more like I'm 929 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: functionally smart, like I figured out what I needed to 930 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 3: do to like get to like what I needed to do. 931 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: Well. 932 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: I have an idea. 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It's called Cold Please bad Blood. 954 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 3: Bad Blo opened my Audible app. I just opened my 955 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 3: Audible app and there it was Bad Blood. 956 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 2: It's great, Okay, so yeah, listen to that on Audible. 957 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: Audible members can choose three titles every month, one audiobook 958 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 2: and two audible originals you can't hear anywhere else. Audible 959 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 2: member also get access to exclusive audio fitness programs in 960 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 2: case you like to listen while exercising. That's what I 961 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 2: do when I pretend to exercise. 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In this game, we 975 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 2: are projecting them to win by about seven points, and 976 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: we have a game total of around thirty nine and 977 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 2: a half as our projection. Ian any injury news and 978 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,240 Speaker 2: notes here. 979 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 4: Both teams are pretty healthy right now. Arizona Josh Huff 980 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,839 Speaker 4: wasn't able to practice Wednesday with a knee injury. I'd 981 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 4: have to look back, but I'm pretty sure he's kind 982 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: of been limited a little bit in practice with that, 983 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 4: so I'm not sure if that necessarily means he won't 984 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 4: play yet. But the good news for Arizona was Richard Mulaney, 985 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 4: who was starting for them when the season started, returned 986 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 4: to a limited practice with a knee injury. And mentioned 987 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 4: this earlier. He is the stone cold minimum three thousand 988 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 4: on Fanball, so if he's able to play like we 989 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 4: expect him to walk back into three wide receiver sets, 990 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 4: that's definitely a value play to keep an eye on. 991 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 5: Then. 992 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 4: For San Antonio, the only guy I wasn't able to 993 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 4: practice was Cole Hunt, their tight end with a lower 994 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 4: leg injury. Obviously not good for them, but for fantasy purposes, 995 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 4: not something to worry about too much. Big question and 996 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 4: sent that I'd love to your take on this. Logan 997 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,439 Speaker 4: Woodside played every snap last week, for the first time 998 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 4: this season, we didn't see any Marquise Williams. 999 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe I'm giving Williams too. 1000 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 4: Much credit here, but I would love to see what 1001 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 4: this offense could do with him under center, to have 1002 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 4: a true duel threat versus what they've been with Woodside. 1003 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 4: Do you see them kind of continuing this quarterback uotation 1004 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 4: or eventually making a change sometimes soon. 1005 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 3: So I thought it was weird because we saw Williams. 1006 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 3: I thought they would do like well. I thought for 1007 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: sure we'd see Williams on every two point conversion. I 1008 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 3: thought for sure they were doing these weird things in 1009 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 3: the third quarter where they like do a series with 1010 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 3: Williams and like whether or not no matter what the 1011 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: score was, it was very weird. So I haven't seen 1012 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 3: him be used situationally yet. But last game it wasn't broke, 1013 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 3: so they didn't fix it. So I'm not sure if 1014 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 3: because they were winning and they were beating the Iron, 1015 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: who's like Williams is not the deep passer that threat 1016 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: that you got from Woodside. So I think what you 1017 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 3: see happen is I think better situational usages. I think 1018 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 3: you see Williams on those two points, and you see 1019 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 3: him in situations where they need the dual threat. I 1020 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 3: don't think it's all woodside all the time. I do 1021 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 3: think it'll be more rotational. But if someone starts getting 1022 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 3: hot like we saw, I don't think they take them out. 1023 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:50,919 Speaker 5: That's fair. 1024 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 4: I'm just way one more week or so so Johnnyman's 1025 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 4: outcomes and adds a whole other variable of this situation 1026 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 4: gonna happen. 1027 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. Nope, I would we you know, 1028 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 3: I'll bake you a cake if Johnny Manzielan's up in 1029 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 3: the in the air, all. 1030 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 5: Right, I'll take you up on that. Okay, so real 1031 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 5: quick on San Antonio. 1032 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 4: Still, the backfield look like. Trey Williams, you know, really 1033 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: played well week three. Personally, I thought he might kind 1034 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: of take over the backfield last week. 1035 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,440 Speaker 5: Didn't happen. 1036 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: Kenneth Faroll thirty carries, played almost eighty percent of the snaps. 1037 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 4: David COKBB was pretty much phased out though. I thought 1038 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 4: that was the kind of big thing to keep an 1039 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: eye on. Do you agree with me here? I think 1040 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 4: Kenneth Pharaoh and Trey Williams will have more of a 1041 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 4: sixty forty fifty to fifty split moving forward than what 1042 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 4: we saw last week. 1043 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: I legit think it's by feel like this is the 1044 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: very much by field team. So I think it's Pharaoh's 1045 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: to lose. It's Pharaoh's like seventy sixty maybe, but like 1046 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 3: I think that's the way that they go into it. 1047 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, And there hasn't been much of a reason to 1048 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 5: take Paroll off the field. 1049 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he's so some of those jukes he's made 1050 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 4: on fourth and onees have been really fun to. 1051 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 3: Watch well, and plus like that that helps the mask 1052 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 3: where they're really deficient. The commanders are not good and 1053 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: their pass defense is really vulnerable. So you've seen the 1054 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 3: command like their linebackers are good, but like their pass 1055 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 3: defense is not so great. So if they can establish 1056 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 3: a run and keep running and typically with Pharaoh, then 1057 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 3: it really masks their defensive woes. You know, like that 1058 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,280 Speaker 3: that pass defense is hard. 1059 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw Amber Charles Johnson getting open 1060 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 4: whenever he wanted against them, well foot. 1061 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 5: Thar side of the ball. 1062 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 4: Could you see Rashad Ross having a similar type of 1063 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 4: game as Charles Johnson did against Antonio. 1064 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I think Rashad Ross is like you pay up 1065 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 3: for him, you know what I mean? Like you're just like, yep, 1066 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 3: that's my that's my big ticket item this week, right, Like, 1067 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a higher scoring game. 1068 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 3: I think that the shots hot shots or the shot hots. 1069 00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: Either way, the hot shots are going to win this one. 1070 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,760 Speaker 3: But I think Rashad Ross has does his like interesting 1071 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,959 Speaker 3: and zone dances. Right, I think we see at least 1072 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 3: at least one maybe more. He's my that's the safest 1073 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 3: bet for a wide receiver if you're playing Fantasy. 1074 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, good point there. God bless for shaw Ross. 1075 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,760 Speaker 4: Every time he scores, we get like a five second 1076 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 4: swaggy celebration in the end. 1077 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,399 Speaker 2: Ze. 1078 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's super fun. We always have them on that. 1079 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 3: We always like, well, Rashad Ross like coming up, let's go. 1080 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 4: Last thing on Arizona. Drell Presley finally really had a 1081 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,879 Speaker 4: big game last week. But I don't know he's been 1082 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 4: It wasn't really that much of a difference in his volume. 1083 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: He's still playing fifty sixty percent of snaps. 1084 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 5: He's been the guy. 1085 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 4: It looked like Tim Cook maybe for one week, but 1086 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 4: it's more or less still been Durell cow season. As 1087 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 4: we like to say in fantasy, are you still riding 1088 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 4: with Presley just as you know, the lead back and 1089 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 4: one of the better offenses. 1090 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 3: I am. I think it's still Presley. I think Presley's 1091 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: the guy. I think Presle will get a look at 1092 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 3: the NFL. The interesting thing, so, when their quarterback got 1093 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 3: hurt two weeks ago, we saw like, oh my god, 1094 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: it's the end of that. The hot shots, they're so good. 1095 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: And then it was like he was okay and he 1096 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 3: ended up playing whatever. But like you saw, like I 1097 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 3: talked to it at the top of this podcast, like 1098 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 3: when you saw that happened and they all got scared 1099 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 3: and I was like, well, Darrell Presley, let's go. And 1100 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 3: he did step up. Then you know, like maybe his 1101 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 3: yards per Carrie were like sort of down. But it's 1102 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 3: a lot easier when they can box him in and 1103 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 3: figure it out, right, like you put it in a 1104 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 3: substitute at quarterback, and the passing through it is diminished, 1105 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 3: you know, it's just like anywhere else. So I think 1106 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: that's kind of part of the reason of it. They 1107 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 3: were like, is he is the quarterback hurt or not? 1108 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 3: What's going on? So I think that's part of why. 1109 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: But I also think like this game though, Like, if 1110 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm paying for the high price situation, it's not Presley 1111 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: in this one, because I do think the Commanders have 1112 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 3: really good linebackers, so they are linebackers, they will minimize 1113 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 3: his help, minimize his impact. I do think he's still 1114 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 3: going to be a very valuable part. But like, if 1115 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm going high price in this game, it's going Ross. 1116 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 2: All right, and Ian, what way are you leaning in 1117 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: this game? Cynthia said that she likes the Arizona Hotshots 1118 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 2: and I think a high scoring game, right, So Ian, 1119 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 2: which way you leaning? 1120 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 5: Yeah? I'm a scenti here. 1121 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 4: I like Arizona and agree with the high scoring potential. 1122 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, San Antonio, their secondary really seems to 1123 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 4: be a liability, and I think this will be only 1124 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 4: the second team to face them that can really take 1125 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 4: advantage of that whenever they want. So yeah, I love Walford, Ross, 1126 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,560 Speaker 4: Stacks and Dfs as well. 1127 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, that's Walfart's the quarterback I would pick 1128 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: this week. If I'm picking him, it's Walford's my number 1129 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 3: one and then Ross those are but that I feel 1130 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 3: like that's very chalky. But whatever. 1131 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, let's let's get into a little bit of 1132 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: fantasy talk there. So Cynthia, you said, and let's think 1133 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 2: I think schalkiness is fine. Let's think a little bit 1134 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,959 Speaker 2: more for kind of like cash games. Walford you said, 1135 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: is a quarterback you really like? Ross, is someone you're 1136 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: interested in? Any other players who kind of catch your 1137 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 2: eye from like just more of like a solid standpoint. 1138 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: People you feel like have a high floor decent for 1139 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,280 Speaker 2: cash games. 1140 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,360 Speaker 3: Okay, so high floor guys. I mean, look Trent Richardson, 1141 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 3: just because of his red zone volume, you're always gonna 1142 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 3: at least consider him in that situation. Again, he's not 1143 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 3: my favorite because I don't like safe. I like not safe. 1144 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 3: So I think you could potentially look Guano could be 1145 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 3: a nice pick for Salt Lake. He's it looks like 1146 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 3: Bunge and know or whatever. Buano. We had a lot 1147 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: of help learning how to say that because of the 1148 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 3: I think the volume will be there for him. And 1149 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,720 Speaker 3: I also think you want to like look for the fleet. 1150 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 3: I think you're taking Escobar. I think that's a safe, 1151 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 3: tight end pick for this week as well. 1152 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 2: Okay, and Ian, what about you? 1153 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, looking at some of these running backs because there's 1154 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 4: a bunch of price changes compared to last week. So 1155 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 4: out of the eight starting running backs, four of them 1156 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 4: saw their salary increase by at least one thousand dollars. 1157 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 4: So just chasing those price hikes it really isn't a 1158 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 4: great way to find the value. So I'm looking at 1159 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 4: Zach Stacy, who's salary only went up by one hundred. 1160 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,439 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about some Sherman batingess, so maybe 1161 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 4: ease off on him. But Trent Richardson minus three hundred 1162 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 4: dollars from last week, I mean, we think the volume 1163 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 4: is still going to be there, so she he was 1164 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 4: undervalued even last week compared to what his workload is. 1165 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 5: So I like that. 1166 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 4: Deanis Johnson minus five hundred dollars compared to last week. 1167 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 4: I mean debian Smith had kind of worked out in 1168 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 4: his favor at the game flow, but Johnson still seems 1169 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 4: to be the starter there, so we get a discount 1170 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 4: for that. 1171 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:46,080 Speaker 3: And then Denis Johnson. I'm yes, Johnson, yes, especially, And 1172 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 3: the last guy was just as ridiculous. 1173 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 4: Takwan Gardner's price dropped by one four hundred dollars. I mean, 1174 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 4: I think if you pay attention to the snap counts, 1175 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 4: we already knew him and Watson were in a committee. 1176 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 4: It was just Gardner had such a huge Week three 1177 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 4: and now he had a bad week four or so 1178 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 4: we should get less ownership as well. People, I think 1179 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 4: just look at the last week and you know, put 1180 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 4: too much behind that, so the volume should still be there. 1181 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 5: I'm not I'm just sent that. 1182 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 4: I don't think Bishop Sankey is going to come in 1183 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 4: and necessarily steal too many snaps. 1184 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 5: So not yet, not yet, that's fair. 1185 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: Come on, people, get on the sak tank. Okay, guaranteed 1186 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,319 Speaker 2: prize pools. Any players, Synthia you think might have kind 1187 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 2: of an undervalued opportunity to have a big performance. 1188 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: Quentin Patton could be an interesting one in Birmingham just 1189 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 3: because like he's been injured and whatever. They're going to 1190 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 3: need to figure out their past defense if they want 1191 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: to win this game, so or their past offense rather 1192 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,399 Speaker 3: if they want to win this game, So that could be. 1193 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 3: That's one that's I think maybe a bit full disclosure. 1194 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 3: I'm I'm not allowed to look at that, so I'm 1195 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 3: just saying who I think might be undervalued in general? Right, 1196 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 3: So I think that's a good one. I think that 1197 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 3: if you want to be a bit risky. I think 1198 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 3: you could go this could be the week that you're Mettenberger, 1199 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 3: like you're you know, like this could be the Mettenberger 1200 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 3: kind of breakout situation. It's a good opportunity for him 1201 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 3: in this one. So that's my like, you know, throw 1202 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 3: caution to the wind for that one. Like that one's risky. 1203 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 3: But I think he's kind of an interesting pick as well. 1204 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 3: And I do think that if you want to like 1205 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 3: get in on something good for like balancing some safe 1206 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: I think Kenneth Farrow does have a lot of value too. 1207 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 3: But again I'm not sure where he falls in the 1208 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, in the chain of how much you're going 1209 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 3: to need to give up for him. 1210 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll just say Sherman Baty also I'm imagining 1211 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 2: is in that in that category. 1212 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,399 Speaker 3: I mean I've said his name like fifty times. Now 1213 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 3: he better do something because I'm going hard. 1214 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right? 1215 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,280 Speaker 2: Ian for GPPs, who's caught your eye? 1216 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, A couple of guys you can look at so 1217 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 4: you can spend up for a kind of Pharaoh type 1218 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 4: person or Rashad Ross, Richard Mulaney. If he does play, 1219 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 4: he's at three K keep an eye on him. If 1220 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 4: Oliver's out. You have a Bolagnon I I don't have 1221 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 4: his name right either, but. 1222 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 2: We are now like one of the five people in 1223 00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: the world who can pronounce his name right correct exactly. 1224 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 3: Welcome to the club. 1225 00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 4: He's yeah, he's definitely a better bet for volume. I 1226 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 4: lean towards him for cash games. But Threll Nubi had 1227 00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 4: only three point three k. I mean that's he's gonna 1228 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 4: let you get up to Sean Ross type guy. And 1229 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 4: then finally a couple of wide receivers I found that 1230 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 4: seem to be in starting sets but are still pretty cheap. 1231 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 4: Definitely goes along with the Mettenburger call. But Dantes Bird, 1232 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,440 Speaker 4: pick Howard for Birmingham, Ladai and Washington, and we got 1233 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 4: Brian Brown and finally the morn A Pierce. And now 1234 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 4: all these people played at least seventy percent of their 1235 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 4: snaps last week and they're all coming in at five 1236 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 4: K or less. So good guys to fill out the 1237 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 4: lineup again so we can get up and get more 1238 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 4: of the guaranteed volume out wide receiver and running back. 1239 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: All right, Cynthia, what are you working on right now 1240 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: for NFL Networks? 1241 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 3: I got an article coming out I got to write it. 1242 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's very narvousing about wide receivers. And 1243 00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 3: then we have free agency frenzy all week. So I'll 1244 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 3: fly back from Alliance and then we do right into 1245 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 3: free agency and we'll figure out where everyone's going. I 1246 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 3: want to hear your early call Antonio Brown, curious where 1247 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 3: you think he's going. And then we'll go right into 1248 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 3: paths to the draft, So profiling all of these these 1249 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 3: rookies or as soon to be rookies. And the combine 1250 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 3: was awesome. So it was good. It was really good. 1251 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no opinion on where Antonio Brown is going. 1252 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 2: It was enough for me to say last year that 1253 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 2: I thought he was falling off a cliff. I think 1254 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: I've said basically everything I need to say about Antonio Brown. 1255 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 5: Come on, come on alone. 1256 00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 2: But really, I have no idea. I have absolutely no idea. 1257 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,279 Speaker 2: There's so much noise out there that it just it 1258 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 2: seems like you could really be almost any team I 1259 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,399 Speaker 2: don't know, I mean, Ian or Cynthia. Just to turn 1260 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 2: this back on here, I mean, do you have any 1261 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: sort of lean on like anything you've heard where he 1262 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: really might be going. I mean, like you hear like 1263 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 2: five seven different names of teams out there. 1264 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 3: Well, I know, I mean it's more like process of elimination. 1265 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 3: Like I do know where he's not going, like I 1266 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 3: have I have more of a handle on that than 1267 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,160 Speaker 3: than I do and where he's going. But I think, like, honestly, 1268 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 3: the one that makes the most sense to me is 1269 00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 3: the Raiders because of they need to make a splash, 1270 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 3: they have a bunch of money. It just that's the 1271 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 3: one logically for me. It's not an insight. It's not 1272 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 3: I'm not reporting this, it's not whatever. You know, It's 1273 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 3: like that's the one where if I were guessing, that's 1274 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,080 Speaker 3: where I would guess. 1275 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they have the they have the draft capital 1276 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 2: to make the trade if they actually are willing to 1277 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 2: give up a first rounder. 1278 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 3: Which like some many people with the draft capital do it. 1279 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 3: They couldn't pay him once he got there, right, Like 1280 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: that's the other like, yeah, that's the other problem, right, 1281 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 3: Like you could maybe have a high draft pick, but 1282 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,319 Speaker 3: you need to actually be able to like move over 1283 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 3: or like you know, to be able to afford him 1284 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 3: whether or not you know, you can get the you know, 1285 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 3: the first round pick or whatever for him. 1286 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, uh, Ian, any thoughts from you on where 1287 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 2: he might be going. 1288 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 4: Uh, I want to say San Francisco, but I'd have 1289 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 4: to look at their salary cap. I mean, I think 1290 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,319 Speaker 4: that might be one of those situations where I'm just 1291 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 4: imagining them with Jimmy g George Kittle down the middle 1292 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 4: Marqui's Goblin clearing out some space. It sounds so good 1293 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 4: in my mind, but I'm not sure if for t 1294 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 4: realistic got into my head. 1295 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 5: How about this, he stays in Pittsburgh. 1296 00:54:58,400 --> 00:54:59,920 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people are on, are hot on, 1297 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 3: like a lot of people are on that they have 1298 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,000 Speaker 3: so much dead space getting rid of him. So it's 1299 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 3: like the dead cap numbers like insane, right, Like he 1300 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 3: only counts one million, Like they only save one million 1301 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 3: getting rid of him because he's got so much dead 1302 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 3: Like it's crazy, it's crazy. Like look, I'm not anti, 1303 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 3: I just think it's I think it'd be weird, you 1304 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like we made up, We're good, 1305 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,240 Speaker 3: no problem, let's get. 1306 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 2: I mean, it is weird for a team that is 1307 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: extensibly still in a compete now mode, still in a 1308 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,000 Speaker 2: super Bowl window, to trade away a guy of his 1309 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 2: caliber for basically no reason, like the reason of getting 1310 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 2: him off the team where you're just hoping it's additioned 1311 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 2: by subtraction, and where you're still eating that much of 1312 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 2: his salary. It just it seems almost unfathomable to where, 1313 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 2: like I think there is an underappreciated chance that he 1314 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 2: actually just does end up staying with the Steelers. And actually, 1315 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 2: while we're talking about this, Rental World has just reported 1316 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 2: that Steelers were giving teams a Friday deadline for the 1317 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,399 Speaker 2: Antonio Brown trade, Which that's just my be posturing, but yeah, 1318 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, who knows. Ian. Our week five AAF rankings 1319 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 2: are on the site. What other Alliance content do you 1320 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,840 Speaker 2: have planned this week? 1321 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 4: Ultimate Guy will be out later this afternoon along with 1322 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 4: our Fanball DFS guide. 1323 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,879 Speaker 5: Check those out. I'll update the Ultimate. 1324 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 4: Guy up until Saturday with the latest injuries and all 1325 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 4: that stuff. Always kind of pain the finniest injury reports 1326 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 4: during the week, but we can usually get a pretty 1327 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,920 Speaker 4: good grasp on it by Friday, so keep an eye 1328 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,640 Speaker 4: on for those people. 1329 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 2: All Right, that's going to do it for this episode 1330 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 2: of the Action Network NFL podcast. Please rate interview the 1331 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: show on iTunes. Thank you to Cynthia for being on 1332 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 2: the show. You can follow her on Twitter at c Freeland. 1333 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 2: You can follow Ian in the Action Network app at 1334 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 2: iHeart It's also use the app to get real time 1335 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 2: odds and track your pets for free. For Cynthia and Ian, 1336 00:56:45,120 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm Matthew Freeman Mattethew Oracle. See you get next episode.