1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up, brought to you by the Fields 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Total Group. Jaguar Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: and former Jaguar Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter JP Shatick 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars. Huddle Up 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: starts right now. 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: Welcome in. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: It is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on this Wednesday, 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: May fourteenth, and Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks is brought 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 3: to you by Field's Auto Group, Jacksonville Seafields First, Jacksonville's 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: premiere luxury auto Group. Go to Fieldsauto dot Com. JP Shadwick, 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 3: John Oser. We're at the Hondai Studios in the Miller 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 3: Electric Center. Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles, California, 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 3: in the aftermath of Rookie Minni Camp. Bucky, Good, afternoon, 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: What's up, guys. 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: How's everything it's going? 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: We're rolling right along Rookie Minnie Campus in the rear View. 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: Phase two wraps up this week. Next week, John's favorite 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: part of every office season, Organized team activities begin. 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 4: Give me more, Give me more OTAs. 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: Bucky. 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 4: You know the only problem with OTAs is you can 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: only have ten oh. 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: Man, I just I just wish that we could have 24 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: so many of them. I wish we could. They could, 25 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: they could take place the entire off season. 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 5: Why can't we go every Tuesday Thursday, Let them get 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 5: to work, let us feel like football is back. But 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: I'm glad to know that after another week we're able 29 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 5: to get some of those practices in. And I know 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 5: how much you love talent of the completions and stuff. 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: You know. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: And that's where John really does not like the media 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: schedule this year. He wishes he could go to all 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 3: ten and cover them. It can only go to one 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 3: a week. 36 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 4: It's a problem. 37 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: It's one a week. 38 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 4: Look, I've said a million times. They're really really important 39 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 4: for teaching and for these guys to learn what's going on. 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: When you ask us to go out and evaluate based 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: on what's going on or or analyze, that's where the 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 4: disconnect is created. So God love him for being out there. 43 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: More power to it. Learn take it seriously. But to 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: ask me, hey, John, what'd you think of Wyatt Mileon? 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 4: Oh he looked great. He's a big person. I don't 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 4: feel any more any different about Wyatt Mylon than than 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: the day he was drafted. I think he's gonna be good. 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: I think he's a good fit. We'll see what happens 49 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: in August. 50 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my thought preseason, all those and to that end, 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: the same kind of idea with Rookie Minicamp, except the 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: excitement is there. The rookies are on the field for 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: the first time. It was Friday, and then Saturday was 54 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: open to the public and nearly two thousand people came 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: out here after an early morning most of the morning 56 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: thunderstorm situation. Well, he still packed the house, and Travis 57 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: Hunter is a big reason why. Of course, their first 58 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: opportunity to see the number two overall draft pick on 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: the field. He played wide receiver exclusively both Friday and Saturday, 60 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: and then Cohen said after the Rookie Minute Camp that 61 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: he'll get some defensive work moving ahead starting this week. 62 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: But buncky, it's all about Travis Hunter. Has seen him 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 3: move around, same thing though no pads. You're not gonna 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: get a whole lot of idea of what he can do, 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: but you get a little bit of an idea of 66 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: how he moves compared to the other guys in Rookie 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: Minute Camp beside him, and it's a whole lot different. 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: It is a lot different. 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: And the main thing is it appears for both of 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 5: you guys that Travis Hunter passed the eyeball test. When 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 5: we talk about the first round, first round, they're coming 72 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 5: in making sure that he looks the. 73 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: Parts, so it appears that he passed that test. 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 5: With flying colors, I got a chance to see him 75 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 5: moving around a little bit. 76 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: I saw some of the clips that were circulating on social. 77 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: Media, and yeah, he definitely looks like a different breed 78 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 5: when it comes out there and how easy it is 79 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: when it's catching the ball and moving around in those things. 80 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 5: I also liked the plan of letting him get used 81 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 5: to playing one position before they slowly integrate him into 82 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 5: the other position. But look, man, we talked about star 83 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 5: power and ultimately, uh, you got to have enough stars 84 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: on your team to win at a high level because 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 5: those stars are typically your blue chip players. I think 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: he's a rare find, a true superstar who is also 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: an elite player who loves the game. He checks off 88 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: a lot of boxes when he comes to being a 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 5: special player. 90 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, he moves different, I mean, and he he brings 91 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 4: with him the confidence that he should. He carries himself 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: the only way that he knows how, which is with 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: incredible enthusiasm, a boyish love for the game, all that stuff, 94 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: and that's what the Jaguars wanted. It's you know, you 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: don't take Travis Hunter and then tell him to come 96 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: in here and you know, not smile and hey stand 97 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 4: over on the sideline. 98 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, quit dancing. 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: So look everything that you wanted to see in a 100 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 4: mini camp, the ease with which he moves that catch 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: right there. You saw it all. And as with anything, 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: nothing matters with this kid until the pad's gone in September, 103 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: and that's when you'll see sort of how he can 104 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: hold up physically in this league. And I think the 105 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,559 Speaker 4: fascinating thing that we'll get into more and more and more. 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 4: And it's been talked about a lot since the draft, 107 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 4: but it hit me when Liam cohane was talking about 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 4: it JP on Saturday, just how much this can't be 109 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: a guy. Like when I was in college, JP, I liked. 110 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: I liked to go to class and just go to 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 4: class and then go take the test. So I found 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 4: out after a couple of years that didn't work and 113 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 4: I had to go study at night. So I think 114 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: that's really he's got that, but to do two positions, Bucky, 115 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: in this league, you got in order to be good 116 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 4: at one position, you need to be taking the books 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 4: home with you to be good at two. This is 118 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 4: going to take a tremendous amount of discipline, focused daily, 119 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: weekly throughout the season to be mentally prepared. And I 120 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: think they think that he's that guy. 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, So the few different things that I want 122 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 5: to touch on before you even get to that point 123 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: of it. I'm gonna say this, and I want to 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 5: be very, very honest in my analysis of Travis Hunter. 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 5: When Travis Hunter was coming out as a wide receiver, 126 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 5: I have in my notes that I thought he was 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 5: more of a playmaker than a polished technician. And part 128 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: of the reason that originally I skewed towards him playing 129 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: more defense than offenses. I felt like he was an athlete, 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 5: like a catch ball, make things happen. Just because I'm 131 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 5: a better athlete than everybody else on the field, than 132 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 5: this's gonna happen. What I'm excited about is Travis Hunter 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 5: linking up with Edgar Bennett, who is a very technically 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 5: sound teacher who has done this a ton with a 135 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 5: lot of young players in Green Bay. I think about 136 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 5: the James Jones, the Render Cobbs, the Jordie Nelson's how 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: he took those guys from step one and helped all 138 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: of those guys become Pro Bowl players. With Travis Hunter, 139 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 5: this would be I would say, the best athlete that 140 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: he's ever worked with to teach how to play the 141 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: position at a high level. And just looking at the clips, 142 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 5: you can see how the refinement is going to help 143 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 5: his game go to another level. The other thing, when 144 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: you talk about him playing two positions, to have someone 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 5: play two positions at the pros, people always talk about 146 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 5: why it's never been done. And it's not only the 147 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 5: physical part that's taxing, it's mentally the drain that can 148 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: happen in trying to study and prepare for two positions. 149 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: And to do. 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 5: That, a player really has to be all in and 151 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: really immersed in football. Can't have really what I call 152 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 5: outside distractions, can't be pulled in a many different directions 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: because it's too hard to have other things going on 154 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 5: while locking into football. The thing that we've known that 155 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 5: we've learned about Travis Hunter in this process is not 156 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 5: only a great academic scholar, a great athlete but look, man, 157 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: he loves ball and he doesn't have many hobbies outside 158 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 5: of that night people talking him dancing on social media 159 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: and fishing and those things. 160 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: But he's a football player all day. 161 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 5: Every day, and it takes that level of commitment to 162 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 5: be able to pull it off. 163 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: Very confident he's going to do it. 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 5: But I think the reason why the Jaggers are confident 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 5: has less to do with the player and more to 166 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 5: do with the person, which is why I'm hoping that 167 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: he's gonna be able to do it at a high level. 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, John, I mean you talked about 169 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: extra studying at Florida. All the extra study you did 170 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: was with the Purple Porpoise, probably right. Don't tell me. 171 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 4: Prpose that much because I was a very young college student, 172 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 4: so my fake ID was not on a level that 173 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 4: I would have liked. So I'm not saying I never partook. 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: I didn't partake that much at the Purple Ports. 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 3: Neither did I never did. The new seasons right around 176 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: the corner. Time to get your season ticket membership is 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: right now. Be at the bank for every touchdown, securi 178 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: your seat at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or cold 179 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: nine oh four, six three three, two thousand to tuddle 180 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: up with Bucky Brooks, JP Shadwick, John Oser and you 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 3: guessed it, Bucky Brooks with us as well. Speaking of tickets, 182 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: single game tickets will be on sale very soon because 183 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: the schedule comes out on Wednesday night, eight o'clock Eastern. 184 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: One Jaguars game has been announced already. The Jaguars in 185 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: London Week seven, Wimbley Stadium under the Arch, so face 186 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: off against the Los Angeles Rams. Get your popcorn ready, 187 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: Gladstone Cohen Revenge Game, Bucky, sign me up. 188 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: Because game that's better than that, right. 189 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: So, there's so many storylines that will be going on, 190 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 5: like they'll talk about us for a while as being 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: Rams East given all the things and similarities in the 192 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: crossover that exists. But also the challenge that Liam Coleen 193 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: would have is, man, anytime you have an opportunity to 194 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 5: take on your mentor you can feel some kind of way, 195 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: they're gonna be some emotions and some feelings that kind 196 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: of come up when you're on the opposite sideline of 197 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: someone that you have a lot of respect for, which 198 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 5: Sean McVay certainly deserves that expect given the impact that 199 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 5: he's had on a bunch of the guys that are 200 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 5: now Jaguars, so this would be interesting. But look, I 201 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 5: think it's one of those games that we'll call a 202 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: measuring stick game. For so long, the Rams have been 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 5: one of those teams that we've talked about in the 204 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 5: upper eche line of the league. They're Super Bowl champion, 205 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 5: they've won, they've been able to go to the playoffs 206 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 5: the last couple of years aftery're having slow starts. So 207 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: there's a toughness and a resilience about this team that 208 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 5: you admire. And so as the Jaguars are taking this 209 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 5: team on in the middle of the season, it will 210 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: be a good test for the team to see where 211 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 5: they're at and where they want to go. 212 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: So I'm excited about it. Yeah. 213 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 4: I Usually usually when I write or talk about coaches 214 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 4: or players playing their former teams, I sort of I 215 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: feel a little fraudulent because I don't really believe that 216 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 4: it matters that much once they get on the field. 217 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of emotion to it, 218 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: and then a lot of times we overplay it. But 219 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 4: with this one, I don't really feel that way because 220 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 4: of the clear connection that James Gladstone has with less Snead, 221 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 4: and how influential Gladstone was in how they built the Rams, 222 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 4: which I think was very influential. I think less sneed would. 223 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Tell you that. 224 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 4: And I do believe that Liam Cohen was heavily influenced 225 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: by Sean McVay, and you know, wants to embrace those things. 226 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: Sometimes guys leave where they've been and don't really consider 227 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 4: themselves an ex eagle or an ex what like. I'm 228 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 4: not referenced the Doug he did, but you know what 229 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I do think the Jaguars have to 230 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: an unusual degree embraced the Hey, that's the north Star, 231 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: that's where, that's what we want to do. I think 232 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 4: Gladstone's well within his rights to it because he influenced 233 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: so much of what they do. Of course he would 234 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 4: do things the way the Rams did it because he 235 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: was a big reason they were doing some of the things. 236 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: So I think it's on that level. It will be 237 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 4: very interesting. I don't expect I don't know if the 238 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: Jacks win, if the Jags win the game or not, 239 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: but I don't necessarily expect that the Jaguars will look 240 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: completely like the Rams yet because they got a lot 241 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: of players that these guys didn't bring in. It's still transitioning. 242 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 4: But I think it's very very interesting to see how 243 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 4: this is starting to look compared to the Rams, who 244 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 4: were sort of a finished product of this process. 245 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do think all those parallels, all those things 246 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 5: that you talk about are certainly in play. But then 247 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 5: every coach will kind of circle a handful of games 248 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 5: on the schedule where they're saying, hey, this is gonna 249 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 5: be a good test for us to see where we're at, 250 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 5: where we can improve. This team will be a mirror 251 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 5: for us to be able to figure out what decisions 252 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 5: we need to make to kind of maximize our team 253 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 5: going forward. Because of where this game sits on the schedule, 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 5: right in the middle, it literally is a perfect opportunity 255 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 5: to play the game and then have a chance to 256 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: kind of review and reflect on, Okay, here's where we are, 257 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 5: Here's where we're good at, here's where we're bad at, 258 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: Here's how we want to improve, and we get to 259 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 5: do it against a team that is kind of the 260 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 5: model for what the Jaguars want to be. And that's 261 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 5: not being disrespectful or saying hey, we're trying to be 262 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 5: exactly who the Rams are. We're trying to create our 263 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: own identity, but there's some modeals and I would say 264 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: cultural pieces from the Rams that we certainly want to 265 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: use as a framework for how we build. 266 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 2: The Jags out. 267 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 5: This is a good opportunity to kind of see that, 268 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 5: to have our players see that. Not that you're gonna 269 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 5: spend all your time talking about, hey, guys, we want 270 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: to be like them, but there's gonna be some crossover, 271 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 5: some carryover, and there's certainly gonna be some discussions that 272 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 5: will exist when it comes to ay, this is how 273 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 5: we do it, this is how we want to do it, 274 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 5: It's how we used to do it at Rams. 275 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: Is what we want to do here, and those things. 276 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: So it will be a natural muse to utilize to 277 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 5: help the team kind of have a better picture of 278 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 5: what they want to be going forward. 279 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: A few other notes that we know as of right 280 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: now as of this taping of the schedule, the Jaguars 281 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: do have scheduled opponents in the AFC and the NFC 282 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: West this year. That means road trips to two of 283 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: those teams in each of the divisions. That means a 284 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: lot of travel in the air. That also means a 285 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: lot of four o'clock window games, because those home games 286 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 3: for those West Coast teams are at one o'clock Local time, 287 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 3: that means four o'clock Eastern. We'll see when in the 288 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: schedule they are. That's the big mystery coming up. We'll 289 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: get answer. Bucky brook this is right in his backyard 290 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: some of these, So this is perfect for Bucky. 291 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not mad that we have a very 292 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 5: West Coast schedule, that we have some things on this 293 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: side of the country. 294 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: It should be fun. 295 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 5: It'd be an opportunity for me maybe to take the 296 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 5: lead a little bit on some of the dinners that 297 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: may take place and kind of picking restaurants and doing 298 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: some of those things, like kind of exposing some of 299 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 5: the West Coast life. Sounds it sounds like it, I mean, 300 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 5: I mean, it just depends a lot of it depends. 301 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: It depends sometimes. 302 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 5: I mean, like like if I'm pulling out the flastic, 303 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 5: that might be an eat it in and out type 304 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: a time where I give you, like a different type 305 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 5: delicacy if someone else is doing it Dennis. 306 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: More of a boa, a noble a thing like that. 307 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: It just depends on who's paint or where we go. 308 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: It just depends on where we go. 309 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: I means for different folks, different strokes for different. 310 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: Folks, animal style, un bucky love that. What else? Final 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: thought here? What else do you want in a schedule? John? 312 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: I know your answer, and I know your cynical answer, 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's as cynical as everybody might think. 314 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen one o'clock home game is what you want, 315 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: But you know, I guess what you really wanted to 316 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: schedule is a late season by. I think things what 317 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: coaches like a late season by. I think you like 318 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 4: a couple of Thursday games if you're if you feel 319 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: like they're games you can get and then get the break, 320 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: and then beyond that. I think most coaches, I know 321 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 4: I look at it. It's not something you can control. 322 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: And the one thing when you're trying to analyze these 323 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: things when they come out, you don't really know what 324 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: a team is until five or six weeks in anyway, 325 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 4: So we spend so much mental equity. Oh, it's a 326 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: hard schedule, it's an easy schedule. Look, if you're a 327 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: good team and if you're gonna make the playoffs in 328 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: the NFL, you've got to play good and beat a 329 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: bunch of good teams. Don't really matter when they are 330 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: or where they are, and I think good teams generally 331 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 4: get to the playoffs, and there's not that many undeserving 332 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: Super Bowl champions, so it all comes out in the 333 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 4: Washington the end, and we pick apart these schedules. I 334 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 4: look at a schedule like this when you think your 335 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: team's good, a lot of schedules look very manageable. When 336 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 4: you think it stinks, every schedule looks hard. So I 337 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 4: think a lot of Jaguars fans are used to the 338 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: team being bad, which I think is going to be 339 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: this year. So I think the schedule is going to 340 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 4: look hard if you think you're a four and thirteen team, 341 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 4: because you lose a bunch. But if you're good, then 342 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: you go like they played Seahawks this year, right, a 343 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 4: ten and seventeen on paper that was like, oh, well 344 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 4: that's tough. Well, if the Jaguars are going to be 345 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: a nine to eight, ten to seven team, which I 346 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 4: think they think they're going to be, then you go 347 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: win some games against teams like that. In the past 348 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: they've lost them, so you know that's not very good analysis. 349 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 4: But that's how I feel about the schedule. And if 350 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: you're good, you go in the games. 351 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny you talk, you talk to the schedule. 352 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 5: I think there are a few ways I'm gonna put on. 353 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put on like the Scout hat first, and 354 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 5: I'll talk about like the things that you want to 355 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: see is. 356 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 4: Buck, where's a lot of hats? 357 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: You know? 358 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 3: I heard about that. 359 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: A lot of hats. 360 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 5: So the Scout hat will will be okay, winn of 361 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 5: the division games normally there the back half of the season, when. 362 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: Is the bye week? Where are the measuring stick games? 363 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: You would like to kind of have one of those 364 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: games that you view per quarter as Okay, we want 365 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: to track our progress each quarter of the season, let's 366 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 5: see where we're at. So that's how the evaluator and 367 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: me would look at the schedule, like how can we progress? 368 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: Is there an opportunity for us to get on a 369 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: run and get hot going into the postseason based on 370 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 5: the schedule, even though we don't know how the teams 371 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 5: are gonna be, But do we have an opportunity to 372 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 5: really make a run? Building momentum as you're heading into 373 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: the postseason the player in me. The first thing that 374 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 5: you're looking for is when is the bye week? When 375 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: when we split it up? When is a bye week? 376 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 5: And do we have any primetime games? Because the energy 377 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 5: is different when you play a Sunday night game, a 378 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: Monday night game, a Thursday game, any of those things. 379 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 5: Do we have any showcase games where if you're a 380 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 5: person selfishly who has Pro Bowl aspirations all per respirations, 381 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: when am I gonna have an opportunity to play on 382 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 5: a big stage where everyone can see me? Those things 383 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: excite me or whatever. And then finally, like the robbery 384 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 5: games and those things, they kind of pop up, But 385 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 5: it's about the bye week and primetime games. 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: When can I be showcased as a player? Those are 387 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: the things that I want to know. 388 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 3: I love that. That's tonight, eight o'clock Eastern. We'll find 389 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: out the schedule. Elease show will have that done. Jack 390 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: Social Media, watch out for the social media channel as well. 391 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 3: Every team in the league now has a different type 392 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 3: of schedule release video. It's exclusive to social. 393 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 5: It sounds it sounds like you don't like that. It 394 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 5: sounds like you don't like the production that goes in 395 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 5: me or John, No, no, not you. 396 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: It's cool. 397 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 5: A little a little snarky, little sarcasm in your thing, 398 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 5: like come on, we excited, be excited, be excited to. 399 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 3: See that it's cool. What else do you have to say. 400 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: He's also trying to outlaw cheerleaders in Twitter. 401 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, enthusiastic, more enthusiastic. I need more enthusiasm from. 402 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: Hey, the schedules out tonight today, look at on social media? 403 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, what energy? Yeah? Oh man, the grass, it's about 404 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: the grass. 405 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: About the ball. 406 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 4: I can tell you it's. 407 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 5: The podcast podcasts, your DNAs. 408 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: Podcast is your resume. The podcast is your resume. 409 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: You know, I watch this us all. What's that? John? 410 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 4: I can tell you that. My understanding is the schedule 411 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: release video is is well worth watching this year? 412 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: I need more energy out of you, John, Come on, John, 413 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 3: give me more energy than that. He's doing the same thing. 414 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 2: I know, but that's his role though. 415 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: Like you're the hype man, he's he's more the like 416 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: the studious type, like the calm he's gonna teach. He's 417 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 5: the professor of the program. He's gonna let us know. 418 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 5: He's gonna give us the details. Not a lot of 419 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 5: friels but substance more so than sizzle. 420 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 4: My professor hat. I only have one hats. It's the 421 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: professor hat, the one if John. 422 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 5: If John is the steak, it's not coming out with 423 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 5: all the twistlers and all that other stuff. It's a 424 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: nice will crafted steak. But not a lot of bills 425 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 5: and whistles there. It's not like the birthday party. It's 426 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 5: not that it's meat potatoes. This is what we're getting 427 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 5: is very to the point. 428 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 4: And Jeff order it for me. 429 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, that's gonna be a little wagoo. 430 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: No animal style there. 431 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a little wagoo. It's gonna be it's 432 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: gonna be some fine wine. It's gonna be consumed with 433 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: that too. 434 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: There may or may not be a broadcast the next day. 435 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 3: Bucky will talk to you again next week. 436 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, man, alright, man, looking forward to it by 437 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: next week. 438 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks John Osier is excited for that. I'm j P. 439 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 3: Shadrick and our thanks to David, Joe and Joe Fortune 440 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 3: I know, and thanks to you for watching and listening 441 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: to huddle up with Bucky Brooks