WEBVTT - Gold Medal Goalie: Briana Scurry

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, Well, where were you on July tenth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine. Oh, you don't remember where you were that

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<v Speaker 1>day because it was twenty five years ago. Well what

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<v Speaker 1>if I say, where were you when Brandy Chassain made

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<v Speaker 1>that goal to give the US women the World Cup?

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you remember where you were? Well, our guest

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<v Speaker 1>today remembers where she was because she was on the

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<v Speaker 1>field when it happened. And welcome to this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ Worlds. You have seen me a lot

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<v Speaker 1>once we get going here and our we oftentimes greet

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<v Speaker 1>our guests. If they're on zoom, we'll say hello to them,

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<v Speaker 1>just to you know, get a couple of pleasantries out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way. You have seen me greet a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of our guests. Describe the greeting I just gave her.

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<v Speaker 2>It was loud and enthusiastic and genuinely filled with just joy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am as giddy as it gets because there

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<v Speaker 1>are moments, there are so many moments in our lives

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<v Speaker 1>where they sometimes they're tragic that you know exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>you were. This is one of unbridled joy that collectively

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<v Speaker 1>I think we had as a country twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>ago that put us on a path now. Quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>folks don't even understand why they love women's soccer right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That might be some kids that don't even realize why

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<v Speaker 1>they were introduced to it and how it came about.

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<v Speaker 1>But that team twenty five years ago was everything to

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<v Speaker 1>dud just women's soccer, but maybe just women's athletics in

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<v Speaker 1>this country.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so true.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've never that was like the first time

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<v Speaker 2>I think as a woman I felt proud of a

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<v Speaker 2>female team in a way that I mean, I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>personally had nothing to do with it, but just the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that we could and we did, and there were

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<v Speaker 2>those of us proving other people wrong, that not only

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<v Speaker 2>were we capable of such incredible acts of athleticism, but

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<v Speaker 2>that people cared, people watched, and it mattered, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was huge for little girls everywhere. I love what people

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<v Speaker 2>I read somewhere someone wrote about this team, this US

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<v Speaker 2>women's soccer team, It is the team that taught America

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<v Speaker 2>to love soccer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I just thought that was such a perfect

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<v Speaker 3>way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so true. And again, I grew up. We

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<v Speaker 1>both grew up in the side. We grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>places where it was Friday night lights football football, football, football.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't grow up my parents are. Never a moment

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<v Speaker 1>in my life ever crossed my mind that I would

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<v Speaker 1>play soccer. But I'm watching this team now, and I

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<v Speaker 1>watched every pretty much everything. So it was one of

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<v Speaker 1>those do you remember where you were? And this sounds crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was in Red Lobster.

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<v Speaker 3>You were working You worked at Red Lobster? Were you

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<v Speaker 3>working there?

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety nine? It was my senior year of college and

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<v Speaker 1>I worked at Red Lobster. The shirt and everything had

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<v Speaker 1>fish on it. Yes, But back then and in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>there was you remember the days when restaurants used to

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<v Speaker 1>have a smoking or non smoking segment. Yes, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that anymore, but at Red Lobster and Fetville Arkins,

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<v Speaker 1>the smoking section is the one that had the TV.

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<v Speaker 3>That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to go into that section where the

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<v Speaker 1>bar was to get drinks from my tables. People were

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to get their drinks that night because as you

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<v Speaker 1>walked out, the TV was above that walkway, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would stop and stare at the screen and watch the

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<v Speaker 1>game instead of delivering the butt light to the table.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, how were your tips that night?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I did well and I didn't care,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got all into it and caught up and

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<v Speaker 1>watched that moment. But look, we talked about Caitlin Clark

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<v Speaker 1>these days. We talked about the WNBA and some of

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<v Speaker 1>the superstars there. But these were the first superstars I

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<v Speaker 1>remember in my life that were women that I looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to, female athletes. That is, that was a first

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<v Speaker 1>in my life at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, yes, Mia Hamm.

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<v Speaker 2>We mentioned Ry Chastain and uh wait, wasn't there someone

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<v Speaker 2>else who was very pivotal when things come down to

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<v Speaker 2>pks and you're holding your breast and you think, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I can't imagine being the kicker or the goalkeeper.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the goalkeeper and the goalkeeper. Now, if folks take

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<v Speaker 1>folks back to that that match, it went full time.

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<v Speaker 1>That means they play a full match, an extra time

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<v Speaker 1>and the US women and China did not score. It

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<v Speaker 1>was zero zero, so we're going to penalty kicks. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>made the penalty kip except for one young lady from China.

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<v Speaker 1>She was stopped by the US goalkeeper. And that I

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<v Speaker 1>know that that Brandy Chastain moment is iconic and it

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<v Speaker 1>will forever be there. But the only reason that moment

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<v Speaker 1>could happen is because of a moment that Brianna Scurry

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to happen. She is the goalkeeper of that team.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a two time goal medalist, World Cup champion, author

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<v Speaker 1>of the book My Greatest Save, and she is a

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<v Speaker 1>Soccer Hall of Famer. And what else is she?

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<v Speaker 4>She's here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if you all could have heard DJ say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, hello and yes, we are so honored

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<v Speaker 2>Brianna to have you here with us. It is just

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<v Speaker 2>your smiling face. If everyone could see the beautiful backdrop

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<v Speaker 2>you have, what a cool room, You've got your jerseys

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<v Speaker 2>behind you, and just you know, you are not just

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<v Speaker 2>an inspiration on the field, you have been one off

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<v Speaker 2>the field because you have had quite the journey, as

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<v Speaker 2>so many professional athletes do, coming from such highs and

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<v Speaker 2>then having to deal with what happens after you had

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<v Speaker 2>a traumatic injury, a traumatic brain injury.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be where you are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Just congratulations on all of your success and the young

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<v Speaker 2>women and boys i'm sure too, who you still inspire

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<v Speaker 2>to this day.

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you for all that.

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<v Speaker 2>You continue to do in keeping kids active and giving

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<v Speaker 2>them hope and inspiration. Anybody, if they put their heart

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<v Speaker 2>and mind to it, can be what they want to be.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there anywhere I could possibly take the two of

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<v Speaker 5>you on the road with me to do my intros

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<v Speaker 5>for my speaking engagement?

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<v Speaker 1>Will everybody needs a hype man, We will be your

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<v Speaker 1>hype couple.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to Phoenix tomorrow. Will you meet me there?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Hell, yeah, we are free as of this moment.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are great. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, it's it's so crazy that it's twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five years A and B. That basically means that it

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<v Speaker 5>was like half my life ago. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>nutty as well. And I love that when TJ was

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<v Speaker 5>at the Red Lobster because my mom loved her some

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<v Speaker 5>red Lobster. That's hilarious. And it's great to be here

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<v Speaker 5>and Amy, great to see.

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<v Speaker 4>You as well.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are I'm big fans of yours as well,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's really awesome to be on with you guys today.

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<v Speaker 5>That moment was incredible, I mean, it really was. But

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<v Speaker 5>what's even more interesting about that moment, and TJ mentioned it,

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<v Speaker 5>how normally a person when they think about where they

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<v Speaker 5>were wins, something happened. It's usually tragic, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>usually a tragedy of some sort, but this time, for us,

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<v Speaker 5>it's one of one of joy great joy to be

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<v Speaker 5>an American that day.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, we not only impacted young girls all over

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<v Speaker 5>the country but all over the world, really made them

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<v Speaker 5>see what they could be, uh, you know, in time.

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<v Speaker 5>And also it was so funny for me to meet

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<v Speaker 5>grown men in the airports in the years after, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>come up to me and tell me their story about

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<v Speaker 5>where they were, and they were all emotional, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>they're like and I was at the cabin with my

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<v Speaker 5>buddies and we were like just jumping up and down

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<v Speaker 5>when you guys won, and it was awesome. I've never

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<v Speaker 5>seen female sports before in my life, but that was awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>Made me cry, and so stuff like that. It really

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<v Speaker 5>is rewarding to here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was one of those guys. Yes we have

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<v Speaker 1>we have a group. Well you know, but what what

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<v Speaker 1>how long did it take you when, oh, did you

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<v Speaker 1>have a good idea in the moment? Just how big

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<v Speaker 1>the moment was, because I mean maybe, I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>were all watching and we were collected and seeing this

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<v Speaker 1>was a cool moment, but it has to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways changed the course of history of athletics in

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<v Speaker 1>this country in a lot of ways. How long did

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<v Speaker 1>it take you to realize how big of a deal

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<v Speaker 1>that that was?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I feel that anybody on my team, except for

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<v Speaker 5>Julie that says they understood what the moment was, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think they really did.

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<v Speaker 4>And I am one of those that didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, in terms of big moments, it was literally

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<v Speaker 5>one save out of a thousand, right, But it was

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<v Speaker 5>the moment that when the save was under the circumstances,

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<v Speaker 5>it was under the one hundred and seven degrees on

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<v Speaker 5>the pitch, ninety thousand people holding their collective breath about,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, after all this overtime, and so it was

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<v Speaker 5>like the save herd around the world, and the rippled

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<v Speaker 5>effect of that is really immeasurable in my opinion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>back then, they didn't have women's athletic divisions and stores

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<v Speaker 5>like Lululemon and Nike and Athleta like. Those things didn't

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<v Speaker 5>exist back then, and now they do. All the other

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<v Speaker 5>countries around the world now put resources into their women's

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<v Speaker 5>teams at the national level.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't really before.

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<v Speaker 5>All these other countries are really you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 5>fund that, and it matters now. In FIFA for example

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<v Speaker 5>as well, the governing body for soccer, we were just

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<v Speaker 5>like an afterthought. They didn't even let us use the

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<v Speaker 5>name FIFA Women's World Cup until fairly recently, right before

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<v Speaker 5>that tournament. And so that's really what it means. Things

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<v Speaker 5>just keep reverberating throughout and all the players now. I

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<v Speaker 5>just was in New Jersey the other day and I

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<v Speaker 5>met Alissa Naiir's mom, who's a goalkeeper on the team now,

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<v Speaker 5>and she told me, and this is what's really cool

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<v Speaker 5>about it. She told me that she and her daughter

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<v Speaker 5>were at the game in the Meadowlands the nineteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 5>the first game we played, and she was like eight

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<v Speaker 5>years old, Oh wow, nine years old, and she said

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<v Speaker 5>that they were there and she said thank you to

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<v Speaker 5>me for changing the trajectory of her daughter's Lifewhile. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>that's the kind of stuff that it's been and how

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<v Speaker 5>it's affected people, and that's the kind of stuff I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't quite understand.

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<v Speaker 4>At the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know, it wasn't even that long

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<v Speaker 2>ago that kick like a girl throw like a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>run like a girl was a negative thing that you

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<v Speaker 2>said to somebody. You weren't trying hard enough, you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>doing it strong enough, you weren't doing it fast enough,

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<v Speaker 2>and you all proved everybody wrong and things started to

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<v Speaker 2>shift from that moment on looking back and just seeing

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<v Speaker 2>how you came up, you had so many firsts. I

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<v Speaker 2>love that you were the baby of nine kids too,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, yess awesome. But you were the only

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<v Speaker 2>girl on a boys football team. You were the only

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<v Speaker 2>black girl on this soccer team. Who did you look to?

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<v Speaker 2>Who could you even potentially have modeled yourself after? How

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<v Speaker 2>did you know that you could do it? You could

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<v Speaker 2>be the one?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? I got really lucky, to tell you the truth,

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<v Speaker 5>My mom and dad were truly my initial inspiration and support.

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<v Speaker 4>My dad always used to say, always be first.

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<v Speaker 5>And at the time he was telling me that, he

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<v Speaker 5>was referring.

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<v Speaker 4>To the bus stop. He's like, oh, get out.

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<v Speaker 5>There, don't wait to the bus you know comes And

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, Dad, well, we're all going to get on

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<v Speaker 5>the bus.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like no, He's like, you want to be

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<v Speaker 4>the first one in line.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, all right, fine, you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, And then he also would always tell

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<v Speaker 5>me to keep my eye on the ball.

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<v Speaker 4>And at the time, I was like, what are you

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<v Speaker 4>talking about?

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<v Speaker 5>What ball?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, like, what do you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 5>But he was instilling in me all these one liners

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<v Speaker 5>A but B, these lessons that are so pivotal and

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<v Speaker 5>important for a young person to understand that gets them

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<v Speaker 5>to where they want to go in their life. And

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<v Speaker 5>so when I said I wanted to be an Olympian

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<v Speaker 5>at age eight, my mom and dad were right there

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<v Speaker 5>with me. They fortunately didn't think it was silly or

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<v Speaker 5>goofy or didn't say, oh, well, girls can't do that,

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<v Speaker 5>and honey, you know that's really hard, so maybe shoot.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit lower.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, they were like, you can be anything

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<v Speaker 5>you set your mind too. So beginning in my life,

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<v Speaker 5>basically that was number one, was my mom and dad.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I had a couple of inspirations in sports,

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<v Speaker 5>so basketball was actually my favorite, not soccer.

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<v Speaker 4>Soccer was like number three.

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<v Speaker 5>It was like in a football like American football, basketball,

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<v Speaker 5>and then soccer was number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Which one were you at early on Washington?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember Pearl Washington played at Syracuse? Okay, he

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<v Speaker 4>was my He was my inspiration. Him and Cheryl Miller

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<v Speaker 4>who played at US school. Yeah I remember Cheryl.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So they were my inspirations on the court, but

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<v Speaker 5>still inspirations in them.

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<v Speaker 1>The left well count What were you better at early on? Basketball?

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<v Speaker 1>Football or soccer?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I know?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought I was better at football in fourth and

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<v Speaker 5>fifth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>But the trade off I made. I made a deal

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<v Speaker 4>with my mom.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, you can play football as long as you

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<v Speaker 5>play in the lightweight division. I was like, yes, and

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<v Speaker 5>that was two years and I tried to negotiate one

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<v Speaker 5>more year.

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<v Speaker 4>She said no, so.

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<v Speaker 5>I had to replace it, and I replaced it with soccer.

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<v Speaker 4>So it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 5>But I was much better as a goalkeeper than anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>And to me in high school as a goalkeeper.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching the goalkeeper, I mean, this one, this one right

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<v Speaker 2>here can't stand when it goes to penalty kicks.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so stressed out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, can you imagine being I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>thinking the parent of the kid or the guy or

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<v Speaker 2>the girl who's sitting there, and all the pressure is

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<v Speaker 2>on you get You don't get a lot of the glory,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have all of the pressure. Did you immediately

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<v Speaker 2>gravitate towards being a goalkeeper. How did that come about?

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<v Speaker 4>You guys? So get it. I love it, I love it.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get it. You totally get it. Like goalkeeping

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<v Speaker 5>is like ultra high pressure, ultra low reward yep, and

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<v Speaker 5>being a forward is the opposite. Like as a forward,

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<v Speaker 5>you could miss five out of seven chances and be

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<v Speaker 5>the star making two goals. But I can't miss, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like like I'm about to get yanked out of the games.

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<v Speaker 5>But I actually really loved goalkeeping because I could control

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<v Speaker 5>the fate of the other team.

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<v Speaker 4>I learned that very early on in my life that

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<v Speaker 4>I could control whether the other team could win or not.

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<v Speaker 4>And I really like that.

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<v Speaker 5>I closet control freak. As it turned out, sot but so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Really thinking at.

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<v Speaker 5>All about you know, boy, this goal is really big.

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<v Speaker 5>Two hundred and sixty six balls can fit across the

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<v Speaker 5>face of a goal and only one has to go.

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<v Speaker 4>In, so that thing is huge.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was like, you know what, this is my place,

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<v Speaker 5>and I absolutely loved it, and I figured I can

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<v Speaker 5>control the other team's fate.

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<v Speaker 4>And it turns out I was right.

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<v Speaker 1>So wait a minute the US women's national team won

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<v Speaker 1>in a World Cup in nineteen ninety nine, because you

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<v Speaker 1>decided you were a control freak. I mean, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>putting it on the simple as term. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard youself.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, from one control freak to the other.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask, though, because we differ on this, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've just finished watching the EuroCup. We are a hardcore.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in it when anytime there's an international competition, and

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<v Speaker 1>Copoor America we watched all of that as well. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you like penalty kicks as a soccer Hall of Famer

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<v Speaker 1>because my opinion is that, you know what, they just

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<v Speaker 1>fight it out. I would hate for it to come

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<v Speaker 1>down to who can make a penalty. I would rather

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<v Speaker 1>decided on the pitch during the match. Robes is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the opposite of drama. So you, as a goalie,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you prefer?

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<v Speaker 4>I have to.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly say that I prefer my team to win the

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<v Speaker 5>game before hand it, yeah, because not because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>like penalties. I absolutely embraced them. Why because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 5>have to do it at some point. It just don't

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<v Speaker 5>you know, You're going to have to deal with it

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<v Speaker 5>as a goalkeeper, and you may as well be great

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<v Speaker 5>at it, you know, because it's going to happen at

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<v Speaker 5>the most inopportune time, in the biggest moments of your life,

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<v Speaker 5>because there's no penalties until you know, the knockout round,

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<v Speaker 5>and so that's the for all the marvels. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you can't handle the PK, then you're going home.

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<v Speaker 5>So you better figure it out. And so like you

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<v Speaker 5>saw the Euros and Copa. You know, the best goalkeepers

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<v Speaker 5>in those in those tournaments were saving you know, one.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, three pk sometimes.

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<v Speaker 5>And I mean they were the hero and then the

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<v Speaker 5>very next game comes and they basically forget about him.

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<v Speaker 5>So when it's your turn, right, and that's all it

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<v Speaker 5>is to it, you gotta you gotta earn your earn

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<v Speaker 5>your keep.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll remember, was it Portugal? There was a goalie who

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<v Speaker 1>went to penalty kicks. He was stopping everything. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest man, he was everything.

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<v Speaker 3>To your point, we can't remainer.

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<v Speaker 1>But next match they got everything passed in the next

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<v Speaker 1>match exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>How much pressure and nobody said a word about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's true, it was done.

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<v Speaker 2>How much pressure like can you describe what it feels like,

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<v Speaker 2>what it feels like when everything is on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>you're exhausted from playing for as long and as hard

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<v Speaker 2>as you all have. What does it feel like to

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<v Speaker 2>be the goalkeeper in those moments?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, for me, I was excited because I was like,

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<v Speaker 5>we're going to win this thing now that I can

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<v Speaker 5>control it. So my my my mission was to save one, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 5>save one, maybe too, and then everybody else's job was

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<v Speaker 5>just to make one. It was that simple, save one,

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<v Speaker 5>make one. And so that's the mindset we had. We

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<v Speaker 5>trained it and everything, and it's a little bit nerve wracking.

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<v Speaker 5>But once that referee blew that final whistle, I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>it's on. Now it's my turn to do to do

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<v Speaker 5>my thing. And I don't watch my teammates kick because

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<v Speaker 5>that's not my job, that's not my part. So I

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<v Speaker 5>don't even put that in my mind. I just listened

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<v Speaker 5>to the crowd reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, okay, now you're talking. Now we're going full

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<v Speaker 1>soccer fan. Now, Okay, In those moments when you're standing there,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that goalies strategy? This is one on one,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, there are two hundred and sixty six

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<v Speaker 1>spots that ball can go into. What is your strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you actually have you studied each of the other

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<v Speaker 1>players and know where they're more prone to go? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it just a guess? Do you wait for them to react?

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<v Speaker 5>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, that's a great question, TJ.

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<v Speaker 5>There's two trains of a thought on that some goalkeepers

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<v Speaker 5>guests read. I'm a reader, so I read the where

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<v Speaker 5>the hips are. I read the distance from the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>I read the angle of the approach. You can see

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<v Speaker 5>if you train it enough. And then also you go

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<v Speaker 5>on instinct. So I actually married the two together. But

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<v Speaker 5>I will say this, on that third kicker against China,

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<v Speaker 5>I knew I was going to save it before I

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<v Speaker 5>even got in the goal.

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<v Speaker 3>You just had a gut feeling.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a gut feeling.

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<v Speaker 5>I would normally walk into the goal and not even

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<v Speaker 5>look at them, because I was saying earlier, I only

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<v Speaker 5>focused on what was my job. But for some reason

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<v Speaker 5>why I was walking into the goal on a third kicker,

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<v Speaker 5>something in my mind said look. I heard the word

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<v Speaker 5>look in my mind and I looked at her and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, this is the one. And I knew I

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<v Speaker 5>was going to save it before I even got in there.

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<v Speaker 5>I get sure enough, I did, and somebody was like, well,

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<v Speaker 5>what if you admit what if you were called back

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<v Speaker 5>because you were off the line? I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>no matter where she was kicking it, I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that feeling where you just you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>know when you're gonna mess up before you do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know when you're gonna nail.

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<v Speaker 3>It before you do it. But that's so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember a moment you've had.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes on television one hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Percent, you're gonna nail it, Yes, nailed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Yes. And then there were times when I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to choke and I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember some of those times.

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<v Speaker 5>They're recorded, the moment I hope the making was was

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<v Speaker 5>there for you and choking.

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<v Speaker 2>No. But there's just like this, if you're in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with I don't know, with the energy of everything, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you can sense it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a real thing.

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<v Speaker 5>It's real like athletes always talking about how the world

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<v Speaker 5>slows down or the wall looks bigger, or I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>in slow motion, Like you can feel it.

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<v Speaker 4>You can feel that. It's almost like the universe like

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of comes together for.

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<v Speaker 5>You and you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree you said the universe and you're you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>her language now, and she's got me on breed. This

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<v Speaker 1>idea of not ignoring the signs that the universe gives you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just say you could have been out there and going, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>some random I didn't really hear a voice, so you

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<v Speaker 1>could have done all kinds of things, but you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>ignore it. You listen to it and it all worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's something you taught me.

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<v Speaker 3>Rot I mean, I truly believe that. I mean, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Even when I just did my little gymnastics, I knew

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<v Speaker 2>before I got on the beam whether or not I

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna fall or not, Like I really did. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this isn't gonna be good or I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>nail this. I'm not, you know, And it was the

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's unexplainable, but you feel it.

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<v Speaker 5>It is hard to explain. I've been years and years

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<v Speaker 5>and years. Every time I say, oh, I knew I

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<v Speaker 5>was going to say, but people were like.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on now, really, I'm like, really, I believe it.

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<v Speaker 5>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually for me it's just wow, I hope this goes well.

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<v Speaker 3>Fingers crossed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I can owe for right, I get that.

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<v Speaker 4>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you commemorate? How do you what do your anniversaries

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<v Speaker 1>look like?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>I know twenty five is a big one, but does

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<v Speaker 1>the team get together? Do you all do a video?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you text? Or do the anniversaries come and go?

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<v Speaker 5>We are some texting fools, TJ. I mean we have

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<v Speaker 5>this text chain that is just like everybody's birthday. Everybody's this,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's that. I mean, we we celebrate each other all

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<v Speaker 5>the time. But just recently, just this last weekend, we

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:23.280
<v Speaker 5>were all in New Jersey for the July thirteenth game

0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 5>of the current team and we had our anniversary celebration

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:32.160
<v Speaker 5>and every single player on that ninety nineteen was there

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<v Speaker 5>for the first time in like twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so cool and every single one and this

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.440
<v Speaker 2>new team is on their way to Paris. If they're

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<v Speaker 2>not already there, now.

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<v Speaker 4>What they're there? They're there, mart right now?

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<v Speaker 3>What are you seeing? What do you think is going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen? What do you think they're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>able to do?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's a great question we had. So Emma Hayes,

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<v Speaker 5>let's start with her, the coach. Now I've known her

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:58.040
<v Speaker 5>for a long time, she was actually in the country

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 5>coaching for many years here in the United States, so

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 5>I've known her for years.

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 4>And she invited the team ninety nine ers to have lunch.

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 5>With the current team, and it was a stroke of

0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 5>genius in my opinion, And we told them what it

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 5>would take to win, and we told them what we

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 5>saw in them. And for me, I saw that that

0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 5>team had the talent to shock the world and win

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 5>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And as even though they're young and nine of them.

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 5>Are brand new to the Olympics, it's the first time

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 5>and a lot of people are saying they're not playing

0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 5>that well, and none of that stuff matters. Come game one,

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.439
<v Speaker 5>Game two, all you have to do is be present.

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<v Speaker 4>That's something else I told them. Run the game plan.

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:43.960
<v Speaker 4>You got to believe in it.

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 5>The twenty two of you are the only thing that

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.080
<v Speaker 5>matters in this room. Nothing else, not social media.

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Not reporters, not your parents, not your family, nothing. You

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:58.160
<v Speaker 4>control it. And you decide.

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:00.359
<v Speaker 5>Now, if the twenty two of you can do that

0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:03.520
<v Speaker 5>together and get all your arrows going in the same direction,

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 5>you could get that gold and bring it home.

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 4>So that's what I feel. I mean, I'm always gonna

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 4>bet on them, but I told them that they could

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:12.920
<v Speaker 4>do it.

0:24:13.280 --> 0:24:16.480
<v Speaker 1>You said they needed my help. This is so cool

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 1>that you said something that almost seems unfathomable that the

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>US women's national team could win a tournament and it

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>would be a shock because we're so used to the

0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>US women's national team being a stellar, being elite, and

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>in fact you know this obviously. But maybe people don't

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 1>drop to the lowest ranking number five, like that's terrible

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:42.320
<v Speaker 1>or something. But it had a twenty year it is okay,

0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>sorry I'm speaking out of turn, but for us, they

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a twenty year stretch of just being number

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>one and number two, and there were six year stretches

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 1>within that that stayed at number one. So what explain

0:24:55.320 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe even calm down some people who are so

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>used to the success, which is great. We are trained

0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to think that this team is going to win every tournament.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 1>What has happened that has gotten the team that's from

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I know one or two to number five and now

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.920
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a favorite going to the Olympics. What have

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you seen this team do over the last couple of

0:25:15.680 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>years has gotten it to not being one or two.

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 4>So it's two things. TJ.

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, it's it's we are a products. This is a

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 5>product of our own success. So the rock that was

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 5>dropped in the lake and the ripple effects of that

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 5>are other countries Spain, France, England, all these other countries.

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 5>Brazil pouring more resources into their women's national team and

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 5>guess what that means a direct impact on.

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Our current team to have to play against them.

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 5>And Spain is fantastic now They've been great for many,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 5>many decades on the men's side, and now the women's

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 5>side is playing similarly. Why because they have more resources,

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 5>same with England. They went it to the final last

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.320
<v Speaker 5>year and the Women's World Cup, and they're up for it.

0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 5>They're feisty, they're expecting something to happen for themselves. They

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 5>believe in it. They see us do it, they're like,

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.080
<v Speaker 5>why not us? And so that has been the number

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 5>one reason. Number two is, I think, honestly, because the

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 5>team is really young and so we haven't won the

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.720
<v Speaker 5>Olympics since twenty twelve. But if you look at our history,

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 5>when we don't win Olympics, we win the World Cup.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:25.320
<v Speaker 5>When we don't win the World Cup, we win the Olympics.

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:29.679
<v Speaker 5>And so now people are like, well, this team hasn't

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 5>won much of anything most of these players, but don't

0:26:32.960 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 5>count them out. I mean, we know what's expected of us,

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 5>and those young players know they're expected to win, whether

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 5>whenever you put that jersey on, whether you've been there

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 5>for a minute or ten years, the expectation is to win.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:50.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they understand.

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned resources, and that's been, of course, a huge

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:57.359
<v Speaker 2>news story over the last several years, Megan Rauppino among

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 2>many leading the way where are you on and where

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 2>is us women's soccer in terms of resources and getting

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 2>what they need to be the best they can be.

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, the one thing that was the most important thing

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.640
<v Speaker 5>that happened is one of my teammates is now president

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:13.879
<v Speaker 5>of the Soccer Federation.

0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Happened right, and so.

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 5>She she had she got in there and she handled it,

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.960
<v Speaker 5>you know. She she actually said, Cindy said to me

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.400
<v Speaker 5>a while ago. I saw her when we were here

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 5>at the White House a couple of months back. She said,

0:27:32.080 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 5>I got tired of complaining from the outside in, and

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 5>She's like, I decided I was going to do something

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 5>on the inside. And she got the vice presidency and

0:27:41.040 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 5>ascended to the presidency and so she's the one that

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 5>really spearheaded that understanding that the women deserve equal pay.

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 5>And why is that because their ticket receipts there, they're raiders,

0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 5>the raid, the ratings they're in bringing in their sponsorships.

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 5>For the four year period that US Soccer does budgeting,

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 5>they were equal to or just above the men. And

0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 5>so once you got that piece in line, along with

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 5>someone who understood it it matters, and then talking to

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 5>the men's team, they were able to secure that understanding

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 5>and get that equity done. And so that's very recent

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.720
<v Speaker 5>and now you have all this other income coming in

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 5>with broadcasting, the TV rights and licensing and different you know,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 5>sponsorships that.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 4>Are long term, more you know, more of a partnership

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 4>than ever before.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 5>With the federation, these companies are pouring millions and tens

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 5>of millions of dollars in and so that is really

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 5>helping now.

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:44.640
<v Speaker 4>So we're on a really good footing and we have the.

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 5>Same contract those women have the same contracts as the

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 5>men do.

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 4>For national teams.

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned contracts there, yeah, and you mentioned TV rights.

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>We were talking about USA and the Federation in soccer,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>but the National Women in Soccer League, which obviously has

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>reached so many benefits from what you all did twenty

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>five years ago. TV Rights just signed a new year

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>deal for two hundred and forty million dollars a long

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.120
<v Speaker 1>term deal. The deal before that was worth four and

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>a half million.

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Isn't that crazy?

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 1>That that's that's insane, but but it's it's insane, but

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 1>it's also insane in a good way in that, Wow,

0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>look at how this is exploding and people are watching soccer.

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>So you talk about receipts for women, twenty six percent

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>attendance was up last year at national women's soccer games,

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>forty one percent viewership increase. People are watching, So some

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>of it is, yes, porn resources is great, but you

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:48.280
<v Speaker 1>got to have some viewership and it's going up, up, up,

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>up up. I know right that this is so prideful

0:29:52.720 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 1>for you and you're not going to take obviously some

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>individual credit for it. But to hear those types of things,

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>to go from two hundred and forty million for a

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>TV deal when it was just four and a half

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>million the time before. What pride wells up in you

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:13.320
<v Speaker 1>when you see a Caitlin Clark, when you see women's

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 1>athletics and the WNBA continuing to grow the way it does.

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 1>What wells up in you when you think about the

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 1>contribution you and your teammates made twenty five years ago.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 5>He did. It's the greatest honor of my life, honestly,

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 5>I mean, other than my marriage to my sweetheart and

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 5>being in the Smithsonian, the National African American Museum of

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 5>History and Culture. Other than those two things, one are

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 5>the greatest honors of my life because that means that

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 5>something I did started something that was greater than me,

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 5>and we all can contribute and all take some credit

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.920
<v Speaker 5>for that. And not only that though, So when you

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 5>look at those numbers and you look at like two

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 5>years ago, three years ago versus now, I mean, just

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 5>the other day they were talking about the Angel City

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 5>team going up for two hundred and fifty million to

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 5>Bob Eiger and one of his partners at Disney, and

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.440
<v Speaker 5>that team cost two million to get into the league

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 5>when it first started, like four seasons ago, and so

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 5>it's astronomical.

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 4>But women's sports is having a moment.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 5>I think what's happened is people realize that it's not

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 5>just a novelty anymore, and it's not a charity anymore,

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 5>and that.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 4>It's actual business.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 5>It's a real growth business where you can get in

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 5>on this thing and really ride it to the moon.

0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 5>And it's got great possibilities, great opportunities. And the Caitlin

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 5>Clark effect aside from that, has been really phenomenal for

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 5>women's sports. WNBA has been around, I think twenty six years,

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 5>twenty eight years, something like that, finally getting the recognition

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.640
<v Speaker 5>it's deserved, and those women have been fighting for equity

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 5>forever and now finally getting all the eyeballs on it.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 5>One of the most amazing stats I saw about WNBA

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:13.640
<v Speaker 5>was last year's All Star voting. The highest player to

0:32:13.880 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 5>get voting was like ninety thousand. The highest player this

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 5>year was like eight hundred and fifty thousand. That's almost

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 5>a tenfold increase.

0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's amazing. I can't get amazing. And it took

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people to get there, and I absolutely

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 4>love it.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Uh and you were such a huge part of it,

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I was reading up on everything, Brianna, and I was

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 2>blown away at what you have done and what you've

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>been through since you your professional career ended with a

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>traumatic injury in twenty ten. And as much as successes

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 2>you had all of the accolades that you have built,

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean just phenomenal. You found yourself in such a

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 2>dark place three years after you were forced out of

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>the game you love. You were so low that you

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 2>ended up pawning your two gold medals I did. Can

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 2>you talk about what that moment was like and how

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you pulled yourself up and out of it?

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 5>So that moment was like one of my darkest moments

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 5>in my life, and I've had a few, and I

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 5>think it's because my first gold in ninety six at

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 5>the Atlanta Olympics was the culmination of all the times

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 5>that my mom and dad spent driving me from A

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:39.520
<v Speaker 5>to B, driving me here, supporting me there, and all

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 5>the people that I played with and everyone that's ever

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 5>supported me, my coaches, my teammates, and so I felt

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:48.080
<v Speaker 5>that when I was.

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 4>At the verge of pawning that I actually wanted to

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 4>turn around and not do it.

0:33:52.240 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 5>But I was like, I got it. I have to.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:56.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't have stability.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm in a dark I'm in a crater, and I'm

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 5>thinking and I'm thinking, and then this is the only way.

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I saw financially that I could get some stability now,

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 4>just to be clear, I pawned them.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 5>Now, I did not sell them, so I still had

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 5>ownership as long as I'm making that payment.

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I did it, and I hated it.

0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 5>After I after I took the medal to the shop

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:24.920
<v Speaker 5>in downtown New York, I got back in my car

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 5>and I cried. I cried for like an hour. I mean,

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 5>the tears just rolling off my face. And I was

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 5>in such a bad place. I mean, I recently went

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 5>two years ago to the place I lived, the little

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 5>studio apartment in Little Falls, New Jersey I lived in,

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 5>and this room I'm in right now, my office is

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 5>just about the same size, a little bit a little

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 5>bit bigger that studio. But I looked I went in

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 5>there and I was like, wow, I spent years in

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 5>this place, and I no wonder. I was so messed up.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I mean it was. It was crazy.

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 5>And it's interesting because people always talk about how things

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.919
<v Speaker 5>look different, but it's actually you're different. Things are the same,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 5>like places you live. Maybe some furniture has been moved around.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 4>But you are not the same anymore.

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 5>And so I really grew from that, and I'm actually

0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:22.760
<v Speaker 5>now grateful for it because.

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So you guys know.

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 3>They are there. She is nineteen ninety got back.

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 1>You got them back? You know how long were you

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>without them?

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 4>It was about eight months, damn. And then my current

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 4>wife found out. I told her. She was the only

0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 4>one I told. I didn't tell anybody that I did this.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 5>She's the only one I told. And literally, in the

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 5>next seventy two hours, I had them back. She's like,

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 5>where are they?

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 4>Let's go right now? Yeah, wow, yeah, she was not

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 4>messing around.

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>But your plan was always to get them back.

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, So I needed I needed some stability because I

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:09.319
<v Speaker 5>was tired of depending on the kindness and the consideration

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 5>generosity of my landlord, because I kept only being able

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 5>to pay partial payments of my rent because the insurance

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 5>company that was paying me disability would decide on a

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 5>whim to not pay it, and then I'd have to

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 5>go to court and fight them for it, and that

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 5>would take months. It was just such a nerve wracking situation.

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 5>And I went through all my savings and I was

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.680
<v Speaker 5>a little bit proud, I'm not gonna lie. I was

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 5>a little bit proud to ask for help. And I was,

0:36:36.640 --> 0:36:38.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, I was in this hole, in this place,

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 5>and I just felt bad, and I'm sure I could

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 5>have asked my teammates for help and they would have

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 5>done it, but I just couldn't.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't do it.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>You never did you never did.

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:49.839
<v Speaker 3>I get that though.

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 2>You're at the highest of highs and then you find

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 2>yourself at the lowest of lows, and how do you

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>reconcile those two things? And it came about because of

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 2>a concussion, a traumatic brain injury you had and that

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.840
<v Speaker 2>insurance company. I think anyone who's had a medical issue

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of any kind and it has had to deal with

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 2>an insurance company. When I read what you had to do,

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you actually hired a PR firm, yep, and that was

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 2>the only way you eventually got them to pay for

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a surgery that you desperately needed. That when you woke

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>up it was the first day in three years. You

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.279
<v Speaker 2>never you didn't have a headache. I mean, that is

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I was egregious.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.320
<v Speaker 4>It is egregious. I agree. And my wife, who actually

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 4>owns that PR.

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:31.160
<v Speaker 5>Firm, thought I was egregious as well, and she threatened

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 5>the insurance company. She's like, look, you either do right

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 5>by this woman. She is a two time Olympic gold

0:37:37.400 --> 0:37:40.360
<v Speaker 5>medalist and a World Cup champion, and you are messing

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 5>around with her money, you're messing around with her health.

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 5>You know, her doctors have said, this is what you

0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:49.200
<v Speaker 5>need to do. You know, the courts have have, you know,

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 5>judged against you every single time you've taken her to court.

0:37:52.600 --> 0:37:54.200
<v Speaker 5>You need to do the right thing by her or

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm going to tell everybody. And we're talking about USA today,

0:37:57.719 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 5>we're talking about a national campaign. She's like, you have,

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, forty eight hours to handle it, and they did.

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 4>They caved. Ever since she went in there and told

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 4>them what she was gonna do, they just caved.

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 5>And it's been uphill, you know, up downhill, like as

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 5>she would say, up upward ever since.

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Because once you had that surgery, how did your life change?

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 5>It was so I don't know if you guys have

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 5>ever experienced chronic pain before, but it's almost.

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 4>Like you like it to like a low hum, you know,

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 4>in your ear and in your life.

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 5>It's like it's like seeping the energy out of your body,

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 5>this chronic pain, and it weighs on you and it

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 5>zaps your intensity and your imagination and for me, it

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 5>was everything.

0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:46.520
<v Speaker 4>It just keeps bringing you down.

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 5>It's like this weight, and until you get it off

0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 5>of you, you don't realize how long you've been adjusting

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.839
<v Speaker 5>to your life with that chronic pain. And so once

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 5>I woke up, I could feel it was gone, like immediately,

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 5>and I just started crying again, and I was like,

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 5>oh my gosh, it's gone. And I opened my eyes

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 5>and I because it was always in the same spot

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 5>behind my left ear, this is like, you know, a

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:10.800
<v Speaker 5>little like no, no, you know, And so it was

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 5>finally gone, and I just started crying because I couldn't

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 5>believe it. And you don't realize it till after it's

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 5>gone how long you've been dealing with it. And then

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 5>it was all you know, you know, fight, fighting, and

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 5>cawing my way back to me from there.

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>But as we sit here today, after all that you

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>did go through, tell us how you're doing. I asked

0:39:35.560 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 1>that with a contact background, the context being where I

0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.399
<v Speaker 1>know I was in my twenties, thirties, forties, and after

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I went through some very difficult things, and even some

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of the most difficult things I've been through my life,

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>some of it happened in the past couple of years.

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.319
<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about to know that I could

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.799
<v Speaker 1>sit here and be happier and healthier than I ever am,

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to be than I've ever been, and to be at peace.

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I always ask people in that kind of context. You

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you pawned two gold medals. You pawn gold medals and

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>you you got it back, and you went through certain

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you went through all this hell. Where are you now?

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>How is Ryan a Scurry doing today?

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, let me just say this, TJ.

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.640
<v Speaker 5>When I saw that I was going to interview with you, guys,

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 5>I had a feeling that you were in a good

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 5>place because.

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 4>I watched you know, I watched TV in the morning,

0:40:27.160 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 4>morning shows.

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:30.439
<v Speaker 5>And I knew what you know, what happened went down,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:31.960
<v Speaker 5>And the fact that I was going to talk to

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 5>you guys, I was like, yes, because I am all

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 5>for the underdog, you know, I mean people who are resilient.

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 5>You are stronger because you go through some heavy you

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 5>know what, and if you could come out on the

0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:51.880
<v Speaker 5>other side of it, it can become part of your foundation.

0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 4>And now, you know, you know what, I can.

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 5>Face some crazy stuff and I can get through it

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 5>and I can do it. And so for me, I

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 5>am fantastic right now. I mean I am more. I

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 5>have a better life than I ever thought possible, And

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 5>people are like really, I'm like, yeah, really, So.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:11.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I have an.

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 5>Amazing wife, I have a really great family. My step

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 5>kids are awesome. We live in a fantastic home. We're

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.960
<v Speaker 5>both very successful. I get to talk about myself for

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 5>a living. Are you kidding me?

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 2>Really?

0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 4>Like, holy cow?

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:29.360
<v Speaker 5>I have great partnerships. I have great you know, people

0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 5>that I get to work with. I get to share

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:31.760
<v Speaker 5>my journey.

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 4>Two years ago, I.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.480
<v Speaker 5>Wrote a book and I did a documentary and I mean,

0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 5>da da, and I haven't had validation. I've had validation

0:41:40.400 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 5>in some of the stuff that I didn't realize that

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 5>I was going through back then. Have those things be

0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 5>validated for me now? And so the universe once again

0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 5>has come back around and given me what I deserved

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 5>multiplied And I really truly believe that.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 4>And so for me today, I'm grateful for all of it.

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:04.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, most people would say, oh, well, right, you

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 5>were standing on the edge of a waterfall thinking about

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:12.440
<v Speaker 5>jumping in and knowing you can't swim, and you're grateful

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 5>for that? Yes, yes I am, because ever since that moment,

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 5>I've gone straight up and so there's nothing I can't

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:25.080
<v Speaker 5>do and I use that and I tell everything to

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.040
<v Speaker 5>people because I know in the crowd. When I talk

0:42:28.080 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 5>to people, people in your audience need to hear exactly

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 5>what I'm saying, and they may not even be aware

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 5>of it, or they may not be, you know, willing

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 5>to talk to anybody about it.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 4>But you can be resilient.

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 5>You can get up eight times after you get knocked

0:42:44.160 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 5>down seven times, and actually you'll be stronger in the

0:42:48.320 --> 0:42:52.560
<v Speaker 5>fighting of that situation and you'll look back on it

0:42:52.640 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 5>and it'll be a lesson that you take forward and

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 5>learn and make you into a better you. And it's

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 5>hard to understand that at the time when you're in it.

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 5>But as someone who's been in it, you know what

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 5>I'm talking about. You can talk about that because you've

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:09.080
<v Speaker 5>been in it.

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>So you said, Phoenix, You're in Phoenix next week, drink Yeah,

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>we need to come to Veens.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brian, we knew this was going to be a

0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:22.040
<v Speaker 2>great conversation, but it's even better than we expected.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>It Just it's it's not only going through what you

0:43:25.480 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 2>went through, but being willing to be vulnerable and talk

0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 2>about it. It's not easy and it's painful and reliving

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.800
<v Speaker 2>it is also not fun sometimes, but what you're sharing

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 2>is so important for people to hear because there are

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.080
<v Speaker 2>moments I think that most people go through in life

0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:48.000
<v Speaker 2>where they think they can't they can't stand another second,

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>they can't stand another minute. And yet somehow, when you

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>see someone else do it and someone else go through it,

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 2>you have the courage and strength to do it too.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 2>So thank you for sharing your story. And I know,

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I just I I I'm going to buy your book today.

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm so excited my grade to save. And

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I think we all can learn from each other, but

0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 2>certainly thank you for letting us learn from you.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got to go out and buy it. Usually

0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:14.439
<v Speaker 1>our guests send it to us for free, but will

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 1>support you. That's okay, we will support the cause. Support.

0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 4>It's also on.

0:44:25.400 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Audio book, and I owe you that's my favorite.

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 4>You know what.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm gonna do.

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 4>Eight hours of my voice.

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 2>You know what. We're training for another marathon and I

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 2>love listening to books when I run. So you know

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>what you just sealed it that is I have a

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 2>twelve miler this weekend.

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 3>We have one and I will leave.

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 2>We have we woke up real fast and we have

0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 2>a twelve miler this weekend, and I will be listening

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 2>to your voice.

0:44:50.680 --> 0:44:54.000
<v Speaker 3>You have my like I'm I'm so excited now to

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 3>listen to you.

0:44:55.080 --> 0:44:57.279
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much, both of you. And it's so

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:02.319
<v Speaker 4>fantastic with you guys, and I'm so happy that you're happy.

0:45:02.880 --> 0:45:05.320
<v Speaker 1>And we are happy that you're happy. Fantastic and you

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.759
<v Speaker 1>have added to our happiness. Thank you so so much.

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Whenever you're in New York again, We're going to exchange

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>inform age. I'm serious. I'm not kidding. Our producers know

0:45:14.880 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>we always ask for the info for our guests, and

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:20.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a good point. Damn I shouldn't.

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 5>I would love it.

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 4>I would love it absolutely.

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 1>He's right, all right, Well, thank you so so much.

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Congrats on everything, and appreciate you spending some time with us.

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:31.680
<v Speaker 4>Thank you both. It's so fantastic to see you. I

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 4>appreciate you both. Thank you so much.

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:34.520
<v Speaker 1>That is so awesome.

0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 3>You were so excited about talking to her.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.359
<v Speaker 2>And you know what people always say, be careful when

0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you meet your heroes or you meet someone you're because

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 2>they disappoint you. Oftentimes I would say, uh, Brian exceeded

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>all all, like, just such a beautiful.

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And we'll let you all know. We wanted this to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in studio because we knew that the team was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in New York is right here, so

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<v Speaker 1>that was the request. But we ended up being out

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<v Speaker 1>of town and we weren't able to be here, and

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<v Speaker 1>that we should have canceled our trip to Italy so

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<v Speaker 1>we could stay here in studio with good Bride. But

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<v Speaker 1>that was great. So, folks, we appreciate you has always

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<v Speaker 1>spending some time with us. You can find us on

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<v Speaker 1>our official Instagram page at Amy and TJ Podcast. You

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<v Speaker 1>were jumping because you I was gonna forget Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>You you always remember though, even if you even if

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<v Speaker 2>you just you know, pause a little bit, you always

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<v Speaker 2>get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Nail it, not me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, folks, stay with it. We will see you again

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<v Speaker 1>very very soon.