WEBVTT - ASHLEY VERNER - Scrambled Eggs to Big Breaks

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Colleen Wit and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guest actress, writer, filmmaker, director. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>add all those titles. I'm sorry. Ashley Versa is in

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<v Speaker 1>the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hello, how are you doing? I'm good?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good? I'm hungry? Really yeah, okay, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I did have like a bagel with lockspread.

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<v Speaker 2>You're hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>That was earlier. That was earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's fair, that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, semi hungry. Well, you had virtually one of

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<v Speaker 1>the cheapest dishes on the show, so it was very easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like walk in, walk out. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you tell our listeners and our audience what are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have me eating today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be having you eat some eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Eggs, plain and simple like eggs, salt, and pepper. And

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<v Speaker 1>you said olive oil, which you know we're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>out what it's like to eat eggs and olive oil today.

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<v Speaker 1>You never did it. I don't think I've ever done it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is good. And the pepper is optional.

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<v Speaker 1>The pepper is optional? Sure, okay, she didn't even ask

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<v Speaker 1>for Lorry's guys, No start passing judgment eggs, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Believe it or not, there are some black folks out

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<v Speaker 1>there that have never seen regular salt. I truly believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of respect for Lorry's, though, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, why don't you get in the kitchen start

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<v Speaker 1>cooking these eggs. What kind of eggs are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna make scrambled eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Scrambled you can't miss it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? You can, but you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't judge these eggs. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you like your eggs?

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<v Speaker 1>I like them over medium?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh interesting? Okay, But I eat eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Any which hard? No? I I to running sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>depends what if I want a gooy mish a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if we got ash browns, do it running.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's just like some sausage and eggs,

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<v Speaker 1>do it hard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we're gonna make some eggs. That's gonna be exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, little nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>This simple dish. So I have a saying, the broker

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<v Speaker 1>the dish, the better the story. Oh okay. Now being

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<v Speaker 1>an actress, yeah, you know, give us some insight that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. I'm sure it can't be.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it like it's getting, it's getting. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>stress is coming to me now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just turned it off.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know later to go off. It needs

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<v Speaker 2>to go off. I was like, it's too much stress.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna start slow. So we're cracking eggs. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna just bang it on the counter, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we need a lesson in that? I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard things though. People drop eggs. They drop them

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<v Speaker 2>on the counter to crack them perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, Yeah, from like a low height like.

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<v Speaker 2>They do that. Let's see and apparently it cracks nice. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty nice. That's pretty nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like to do a nice crack, real hard

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of the pot of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oh, you just like to It's that feels like

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<v Speaker 2>so like an emotional way of picking.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we don't have a rag, but I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>see a napkin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you need a napkin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's a napkin and white my hands off. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is part of the broken aspect, is getting all

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<v Speaker 2>the you're hilarious, Yeah, it's it might be breaking.

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<v Speaker 1>These eggs are like a dollar in egg.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cooking for eggs. We're cooking all the eggs. It's protein,

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<v Speaker 2>it's proteins, fats, that's a whole meal.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the day, actually living on how much How

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<v Speaker 1>much was the eggs back in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Day, I don't know, but they were super cheap because

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<v Speaker 2>I have a fond memory of the giant cart from

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<v Speaker 2>Costco of white eggs, white eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you tell our listeners that little joke you made

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<v Speaker 1>about the brown eggs versus the white?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you it was so funny, she said. She

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<v Speaker 1>had said, so like I forbid we eat a white

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<v Speaker 1>egg or so something like that. Just so true because

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<v Speaker 1>when Moore shopping, I said, there's white eggs and brown

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<v Speaker 1>eggs just gonna look like real cheap eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody's freaking out about the eggs. It's getting real like

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<v Speaker 2>the soy and the eggs it's corn. You know. I

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<v Speaker 2>emailed some farms.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you did it, I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I emailed some farms because I was really curious about

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<v Speaker 2>this because everybody really started freaking out about the eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, okay, what's up. We want eggs

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<v Speaker 2>with no soy with no corn. So I emailed some

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<v Speaker 2>farms and the farm said, listen, we do our best,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's really impossible to our next to impossible to

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<v Speaker 2>grow what we need or not grow I mean their eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they're being birth or whatever whatever, who knows

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<v Speaker 2>what that's called. But to get what we need, get

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<v Speaker 2>the amount that we need, it's impossible to just feed

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<v Speaker 2>them things that don't include any corn or soy. So

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<v Speaker 2>they do do some corn and soy substitutions. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>emo two farms. They were so nice and they responded

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<v Speaker 2>some eggs okay, I thought about it. So there's one

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<v Speaker 2>in San Diego, but I was just too far to

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<v Speaker 2>drive from LA.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a girlfriend that goes online and she purchases

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<v Speaker 1>her eggs directly from the farms. And if you thought

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<v Speaker 1>seven dollars a carton or ten dollars a car was expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>good lord, she's spending like fifteen twenty dollars a carton. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, but they real I'm like, you might as

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<v Speaker 1>well just get some chickens for that. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's sad because eggs used to be really affordable,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Not now what are you gonna do if? Like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess hopefully you never have to go back in

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<v Speaker 1>time to the eggs. But could you imagine being overoil

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<v Speaker 1>broke right now? And then you're like, damn, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm gonna eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Who would you eat for breakfast? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>What would I do with my daughter? Every day?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do? Cru But what kind of cereal?

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<v Speaker 1>The well we buy the expensive on name brand fruity

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<v Speaker 1>pebbles and all that, but a good we don't buy

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<v Speaker 1>her to knockoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>The goods, the good, fun tasting cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>When you grow up off the knockoffs, you never ever

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to go back. That's fair, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>all right, take me back to what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>in this I need to survive on.

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<v Speaker 2>Eggs, you know. I don't know. I think I have

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<v Speaker 2>just general fun memories of breakfast. I grew up in

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<v Speaker 2>a house where my dad used to make breakfast for

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<v Speaker 2>us on like Saturday mornings. So he'd make pancakes, apples,

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<v Speaker 2>cinnamon like apples, like with cinnamon and sugar, like a whole,

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<v Speaker 2>like little compount kind of thing. He would do real apples,

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<v Speaker 2>yeahh he like slice them and everything. Yeah, in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just be like, he'd be like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but what do you put them into pancakes?

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<v Speaker 2>No, so you put them on top, so like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole separate thing. He'd make like the apples and cinnamon

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<v Speaker 2>and sugar and make a whole thing. So you have

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<v Speaker 2>like pancakes, apples, bacon, and then we'd have eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>And you came on this show and presented us with

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<v Speaker 1>just eggs. Got it. We had to live the full

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<v Speaker 1>broke experience. We couldn't live the daddy experience.

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<v Speaker 2>My parents weren't broke, okay, clearly, not clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>So you come from a two parent house.

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<v Speaker 2>I come from a two parent household where your daddy

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<v Speaker 2>makes good breakfast. My daddy is the cook in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he's the cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's the cook in the household.

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<v Speaker 1>How can we only cooked on the weekends the.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, this is just like our weekend thing. So

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday mornings when I was a kid, he would make

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<v Speaker 2>like a fool like breakfast, like a full breakfast for us,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd all like go downstairs and have breakfast, and

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<v Speaker 2>he'd like call up to us when breakfast was ready,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'd go downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>For breakfast and what was your mama doing during this sleeping?

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<v Speaker 2>Mom My mom worked really hard. They both worked really hard,

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<v Speaker 2>but she I think they had a really good I

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<v Speaker 2>think they had a really good balance in terms of like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there was never a discussion about it, was just

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<v Speaker 1>like no.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think, you know, my mom did like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of like the pickups school, the school pickups and

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<v Speaker 2>like the after school activities because my dad couldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it because of his job. And so I think like

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<v Speaker 2>also like cooking was like a way for him to

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<v Speaker 2>express his love for us too. So yeah, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>she'd be sleeping, we'd all he'd be like, breakfast is ready,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'd all like get up and go downstairs. It's

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<v Speaker 2>important you go downstairs right away though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that was Anyone who cooks feels that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dinner's ready, it's ready two minutes arrive.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrive, wash the hands, and it comes. Y. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stand when I cook something and someone take thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to get up off the couch, Like I just just mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes I'm saying I'm not okay with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So all right, so what's going on during this egg's ear?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's like my beginner of that. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think, honestly, I think probably when I first moved

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<v Speaker 2>back to Los Angeles, this is before I decided I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be an actor. I moved to Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a job at Kaiser Permanente, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have any money.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you doing at Kaiser?

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<v Speaker 2>I worked in medical education at Kaiser Permanente on the

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<v Speaker 2>Kaiser on sunset, and I had no money, so I

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<v Speaker 2>used to buy I used to bit buy the soup

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<v Speaker 2>from the cafeteria with bread because it was super cheap,

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<v Speaker 2>like the I know it was cafeteria food, but whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it was super cheap and and yeah, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Eat evener even with a day job.

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<v Speaker 2>You were still broke, Yeah, I mean I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like young, and I was like trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>it out, and and I didn't. I mean, I moved here,

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't have money, like you know, when you first,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you first get a job, you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any money, Like you're like, can you please, just like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I get advance on the paycheck? Like that would

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<v Speaker 2>have been really great to get an advance of the paycheck.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see you do an actual ask

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that would have been I mean I did

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<v Speaker 2>ask for some things later and they were like maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not but and so that's I think that's probably like

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<v Speaker 2>when this really happened because I used to I used

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<v Speaker 2>to have an ex for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>And during this stay job, you said you didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to be an access to No.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not. I was still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted to do. I went to college, I did,

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you go to college for?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I went to college for? But

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<v Speaker 2>I did major in psychology. Why I went to college

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<v Speaker 2>is the strong There's so many questions, I guess because

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<v Speaker 2>you're supposed.

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<v Speaker 1>To did you did you complete?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? Yes, I gratus.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do it to make your parents happy?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I mean I think I always knew I would

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<v Speaker 2>go to college, but I was. I was so I

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<v Speaker 2>had been in the arts since from a very young age,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm turn this off and I the artist is

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<v Speaker 2>really strange and challenging in a different way, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was really hard to figure out where

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go. I was a musician for a

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<v Speaker 2>very long time, so what kind of musician violinist.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a violinist.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, I wish I would have done that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think these eggs are done. Okay, are you

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<v Speaker 2>having violent?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm judging your eggs.

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<v Speaker 2>Eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>She cooked them. She was like folding.

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<v Speaker 2>You're judging my eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>She was folding. I don't know if the inside is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna even be cooked.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be a little runny. You said you like

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<v Speaker 2>it a little creamy.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had you.

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<v Speaker 2>We see do you see these? No? You can see

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<v Speaker 2>them now.

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<v Speaker 1>We judging a cooking. Do you cook now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Cooking?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I really can cook.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're gonna She didn't put salt or pepper.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because you can't taste it if you put it

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<v Speaker 2>in that while you're cooking it. So you put it

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<v Speaker 2>in afterwards and you can do it on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>How very much you like? Eggs are done?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually did you eat?

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<v Speaker 2>I had some turkey? Turkey and a baby bell.

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<v Speaker 1>A baby bell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know me, those little cheese things. Yeah? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, are you on an actress type diet? No? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like pulling my life together this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's do a taste test. I added salt

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<v Speaker 1>and pepper. She just added salt. Guys, really good action.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks. I'd be okay if you didn't like them. I've

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<v Speaker 2>never actually had fluffy eggs like this. You know that's

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<v Speaker 2>not this fluffy. I will say, I think butter would

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<v Speaker 2>be better because it adds more to the flavor, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because you cooked with so much butter, which

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<v Speaker 2>is amazing. But I do think the technique is the fluffy.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what's crazy is that I always think

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<v Speaker 1>you have to like overcook the eggs. This is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually impressed with your I was judging. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh lord, I'm not eating these. Oh one, don't. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a breakfast at your house. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>fluffiest restaurant style scrambled eggs I've had. Thank you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oops, that's makes stuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So okay. So you're at g Eyser, you're working.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you doing roommates?

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<v Speaker 2>No? So okay, okay. Yes. So I had a friend

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<v Speaker 2>of mine who let me live in her living room.

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<v Speaker 1>I love LA. When I first moved there, I did

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I was living in someone's squatting in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was living there. She had like a twin

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<v Speaker 2>size bed in the living room. Yeah, I got a bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bed.

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<v Speaker 2>She had a twin saxes bed in living room. And

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<v Speaker 2>she let me live there for like a while, Like

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't really actually like tell me I had to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>But eventually I was in traffic coming home from Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>to Westchester and it was Christmas time and it took

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<v Speaker 2>me like two hours to get home, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to move.

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<v Speaker 1>Where in LA?

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<v Speaker 2>Did she live Westchester by the airport. It shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>taken it long, but it was Christmas time, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially like at this this is pre pandemic. So like

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic was just like remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you drive during the pandemic? Wasn't it nice? So

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<v Speaker 1>like so everywhere where'd you go?

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<v Speaker 2>I was in New York at first, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was in I lived in New York for a one time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was in Hollywood, No, no, New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in New Orleans, and then I was in

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<v Speaker 2>South Carolina and then and then La.

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<v Speaker 1>All during the pandemic. I know New York. I had

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<v Speaker 1>met like people were terrified in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was rough.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, there's dead buddies. It was not. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like pizza, drop it and drop it by the door,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I like the trackway.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the clapping at seven o'clock, like you go

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<v Speaker 2>to the window and you clap to feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like community and in unity. It was bad. It was

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<v Speaker 2>such a bad time. It was so bad. I had

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<v Speaker 2>COVID early on. My husband and I both had COVID

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning. Dang, yeah, it was not people were

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<v Speaker 2>being in the afterwards. My friends were like, we we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to tell you how bad you guys look.

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<v Speaker 2>We were deeply concerned. It was hard. It was so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's fucked is that if you got COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>you had to live in like quarantine, live.

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<v Speaker 2>In a New York SIDS apartment. I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 2>small my apartment was until I moved to Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was incredibly small. I found myself standing on

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<v Speaker 2>like the fake fire escape balcony, like yelling to people.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know, just to say hi to people. I

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<v Speaker 2>just really like I need I'm not an extrovert, but

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<v Speaker 2>I really needed some alternate human.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So going back to Kaiser. You're chilling on

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<v Speaker 1>this twin match tw twin bed in this living room.

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<v Speaker 1>You're working a day job. I'm guessing you're making probably

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<v Speaker 1>like ten dollars an hour at this point because you're

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<v Speaker 1>struggling still.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I made I made pretty good money. I will

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<v Speaker 2>say that it wasn't that bad.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you spending your money on?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I literally know, Okay, when I was when

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<v Speaker 2>I was first on the twin I was like just

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<v Speaker 2>like saving money to put money together. So so like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I spent my probably you know, actually I think

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<v Speaker 2>I spent a lot of money on food, like ordering out.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I ordered out a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in addition to your soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was real. I really ate that soup.

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<v Speaker 2>And then maybe six months later, I think, or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that is when Christmas came, and then I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to move, and then I had money to

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<v Speaker 2>go and be like okay, great, I'm going to move

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<v Speaker 2>into my own apartment. And I think that's when real

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<v Speaker 2>struggle entered. I'm trying to remember the timeline. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>had a roommate. Oh my god, forgot about that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I had a roommate. I went and moved into another

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<v Speaker 2>apartment with a roommate. And then that was that was

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<v Speaker 2>so strange. But then around that timeframe is when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like I wanted to pursue I wanted to become

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<v Speaker 2>an actor on that time and what started that, I

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<v Speaker 2>was taking classes that you say like extension, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was really like interested in communication because I was just

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a nightmare when you're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>what you want to do and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many outside voices I think, just throughout your

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<v Speaker 2>whole life about what you're going to do career wise.

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<v Speaker 2>And this woman came in there. I saw her like

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<v Speaker 2>a month ago. Actually, this woman came in there who

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<v Speaker 2>is an actress, and it was like a mock interview

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<v Speaker 2>that they were trying to teach us, and she just

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<v Speaker 2>like told a little bit of her story and like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, the inside of my body just like

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<v Speaker 2>caught fire, and I was like, oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go talk to her. I have to go talk

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<v Speaker 2>to her. So like she left the class and I

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<v Speaker 2>like ran after her and I was like, hey, can

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me like how to do what you're doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what do I do? And that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the real like beginning of like that of me taking

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<v Speaker 2>action towards that, and then like the pursuit of acting

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<v Speaker 2>is incredibly expensive, so it's like you're taking classes, you

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<v Speaker 2>get headshots, and you're just kind of trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing out. So I think, like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>making a lot of money, So yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of where it was going a bit. Eventually. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>like a lot of my money that was making was

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<v Speaker 2>going to like me taking acting classes and that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you tell your family right away that that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you were going to pursue.

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided that I was going to pursue that,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I took I signed up for an intro

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<v Speaker 2>to Acting class. I took the class. The last class,

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<v Speaker 2>we did that scene from Love and Basketball where it's

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<v Speaker 2>Annihilathan and Alfre Witter in the kitchen when she's when

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<v Speaker 2>she's an adult, and there was a casting director in

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<v Speaker 2>there from CBS who I don't I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who that man is, but he I did the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>We did the scene with my scene partner, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, she was a seasoned, older black actress and

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<v Speaker 2>she was amazing. And he was like, have you acted before?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like no, and he was like, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was your first time doing this thing? And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like yeah, and he was like okay, and you

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<v Speaker 2>like it? And I was like yeah, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm here, aren't I And it was like okay,

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing it. Oh, And I was like okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I left class and I called my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and that's when you told me.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I told my mom, Yeah, okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what does the next year look like for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it all roses and tulips? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think because I had a job, I

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<v Speaker 2>was a little fortunate in that regard that I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel I didn't feel like deeply destitute. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was incredibly challenging because I think my my my

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<v Speaker 2>want to pursue acting was something that was always it

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<v Speaker 2>was always there my whole life. But then over the

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<v Speaker 2>next year it just really I keep saying this, but

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<v Speaker 2>it really caught fire. And so I ended up like

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<v Speaker 2>taking classes out of conservatory, you know, so then that's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole thing, and then you then I started to

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<v Speaker 2>meet like other actors and like found myself in this

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<v Speaker 2>community where I felt like, oh my god, I belong here,

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<v Speaker 2>like I just belong. And I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>my life I didn't feel like that. And then learning

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<v Speaker 2>so much about the craft and just learning to and

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<v Speaker 2>then falling in love with it because I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>an important part. And then I think once that happened,

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<v Speaker 2>it was really hard to have my job. It was

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to.

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<v Speaker 1>Have my dayta it sounds like you're about to quit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so did you? Well, So what happened was I

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<v Speaker 2>got to this place where I met my Actually it's

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy, he's like currently my acting coach. Where I

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<v Speaker 2>met him and I went to him for some advice

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, you know, I'm really interested in

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<v Speaker 2>going to New York and like doing like the full

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<v Speaker 2>on conservatory program and like what do you think? And

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<v Speaker 2>we had like a conversation about it, and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I think this is the right

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<v Speaker 2>step for you based on X, Y and Z and

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<v Speaker 2>knowing me and my work at that moment in time.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I like was auditioning lightly, right, So I've

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<v Speaker 2>done like these weird little random things and then I

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<v Speaker 2>got this audition to do a show Buddy the Buddy

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<v Speaker 2>Holly Story, which is kind of like a musical presentation show,

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<v Speaker 2>and you needed they needed someone who could act, sing

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<v Speaker 2>and dance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I was gonna say, luckily you have that

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<v Speaker 1>musician background and play the violin is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, all right. So I had to

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<v Speaker 2>do three tapes for my audition. I think I had

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<v Speaker 2>to sing, I had to play the violin, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I had to do a scene I think in my audition.

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<v Speaker 2>So I sent it in and I, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still working at Kaiser in my cubicle and crying in

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<v Speaker 2>the whole way. And then I booked it and it

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<v Speaker 2>was I was like, holy shit, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in Rock Island, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, how long would you have to be there?

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<v Speaker 2>For a couple of months?

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, I can only imagine how great that feeling was

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<v Speaker 1>also probably surrounded by oh, how am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Yeah? Yeah, oh for sure? And so I was

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, And I think I told my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I'm just going to ask them. She

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<v Speaker 2>was like, just ask them if they'll give you like

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<v Speaker 2>a leave, like a leave of like a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>like a leave of asking or something like that, right

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<v Speaker 2>when I was like, okay, cool. So at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time I'm there, I was also so I interviewed for

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<v Speaker 2>this really this job at Kaiser to be the internal

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<v Speaker 2>medicine actually just as residency coordinator, which is which is

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<v Speaker 2>a big job. It's a big job because it's heavily

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<v Speaker 2>regulated in terms of like what you need to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure happens, and it's really about like the residence and

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<v Speaker 2>then going through their residency program. And I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 2>paid more, right, Yes, it paid more money, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was a big job. And so I interviewed for the job.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the job, and then I also got it

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<v Speaker 2>for internal medicine, which was the hardest and the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>one to do, and like you know high like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>high value or whatever, right, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the job before you got the audition.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got the job. It all happened kind

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<v Speaker 2>of at the same time. So I got the job,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then and I guess so I like booked

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<v Speaker 2>it and I got the job, right, And so let's

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<v Speaker 2>say like Friday, I got the job and I was like, okay, shit,

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I can curse you okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>I got the job and then I like took the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend and then I came to work on Monday, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I went to the director and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take this job.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't thought you were going to do a little stall. No.

0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:06.679
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I don't. I can't teach this job

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want to do this. I just really

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<v Speaker 2>want to be an actor. And so anyway, like I

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<v Speaker 2>asked them for a leave and they were like, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>think about it, give us a minute, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>came to work. This was a little time after I

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<v Speaker 2>came to work, and then they were like okay. They

0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 2>pulled me into a meeting and they were like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to give you the leave and I

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 2>said okay, and they were like okay, well what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to do? And I was like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 2>is my two week notice.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do it like that too?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh surprise bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm out, probably I was like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 2>my two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Not They probably thought they were going to like game

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<v Speaker 1>check you and then you gain.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it was a little bit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was a bit much like and now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm remembering more acurate. These things happened over a

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<v Speaker 2>period of months, so I so I got like the

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<v Speaker 2>job offer was first, and then there was some months

0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.640
<v Speaker 2>in between that, and then this happened, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they really thought that I was going to say, Okay, hey,

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I won't go, and I was like, no, no, like

0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go one hundred percent. Yeah, And that was

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<v Speaker 2>really like the kickoff.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know, like, did you you already prepared

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<v Speaker 1>for the possibility of walking obviously? Yeah.

0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I think I was just like was always that person

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:22.320
<v Speaker 2>a bit in a good way.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your personality though, like, oh yeah, what's my

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm out?

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<v Speaker 2>Simple?

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<v Speaker 1>So you go to New York, well Rochester, Rocky, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry sorry no, I So you go over there and

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you're doing this and at some point, do you what

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>are the motions saying to you? I mean, you risked

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to be there, and did you pack up

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<v Speaker 1>your apartment or you.

0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Just oh yeah. So I sublet my apartment to this writer,

0:23:48.080 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>a TV writer. I sublet my apartment. I sold like

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<v Speaker 2>my TV and some of the stuff in it to him,

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>and then I went to my parents' house for because

0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.120
<v Speaker 2>it was around Christmas time. I went to my parents'

0:23:57.119 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 2>house around Chrismas time and they I was there. I

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>did Christmas, and then January like first or something. I

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.360
<v Speaker 2>took a plane. They had a ticket, so I took

0:24:05.359 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>a plane to Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>And they put you up and everything.

0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they put us up all in the house and

0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it was the paid good No, no, but

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 2>it was it was fine for what it was like, Yeah,

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 2>my you know, my job was being here and just

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like doing this show. It was dinner theater. This theater

0:24:21.080 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 2>called I think it's called circa circa twenty one. I

0:24:23.600 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>think it's what it's called dinner theater type of thing.

0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>It's just such a really great place to like have

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.000
<v Speaker 2>that introduction for me, like someone like me who was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason why I ask about the pay and

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<v Speaker 1>all that is because you walked away from oh money, yeah,

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.760
<v Speaker 1>stability right, oh yeah, and then you close down your apartment. Yes,

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 1>so after wraps and top of little pay, what's your

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>next play?

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:50.760
<v Speaker 2>I took my little four one care I took it.

0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gambling at all I did. I gambled it all

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>on this career. I took it k the tour wraps.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what I moved to New York? Then you moved

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>to Oh you up the anti suicide she said. So

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 1>she said, Oh if I thought La was hard, because

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect to La, but New York has got to

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>be ten times harder.

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 1>It's fair. Everyone there lives in a cracker box. I

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>make jokes all the time. You can't really move to

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>New York broke because like, there's not a lot of

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:23.919
<v Speaker 1>people that are gonna put you up for a long

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>period of time. No, not in a place that you

0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>could touch the wall.

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so my I have. I had a lot of

0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 2>family who lived in New York at the time. My

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Ti La Grain lived in New York. I did not

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 2>even recall meeting her, but my my mom called and

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like. She was like, you can live your

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 2>tea And I was like, okay, great, And so I

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.520
<v Speaker 2>talked to her and she was like, okay, this is

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 2>what you do when you get in a taxi. You

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.640
<v Speaker 2>tell them to go here, don't let them trick you,

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>and you come here and then you're good. And I

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 2>walked in her house with my two giant suitcases, and

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>she was like, Hi, this is your room.

0:25:58.040 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>That's your mom's sister.

0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 2>No, it's my mom cousin. So my I'm my part

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of my family's frum indoors and so a lot of

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>that part of my family lived and grew up in

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 2>New York. So it is my like, my mom's probably

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>like second or second cousin, I think, or something like that.

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Because you said ta, I thought that meant like she's

0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 1>she's it is she's she's at that point in that

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>age difference, she's she's my aunt.

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh good god, yeah, like respect, that's funny.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so surprised she's solely solely supportive, like.

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 2>She's yeah, she she passed away like during COVID but

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 2>she sorry, I'm going to pull myself together.

0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>Go ahead.

0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But she incredibly supportive, Like I couldn't have done any

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>of it without her.

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, how long did you get to stay with her?

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I stayed with her probably for like two years something

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>like that, around probably around two years. I think that

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>feels like like a right number. Yeah.

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>And then during this whole New York trial, you're doing

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>the conservative.

0:26:52.880 --> 0:26:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Ships in the territory. Yeah, I'm doing the like again, Yeah,

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I know, I'm fine. Sorry, I don't haven't pulled to

0:26:58.480 --> 0:26:58.959
<v Speaker 2>this story.

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>No. Like, yeah, so during the two years you're you're

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 1>pursuing the conservative.

0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm in the conservatory program, which is like super rigorous.

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Can you explain what that is exactly?

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So it's like and it's it's it's an alternative

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.400
<v Speaker 2>to grad school essentially, and basically, so if you're doing

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.959
<v Speaker 2>like the whole shebang, you probably are doing like and

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>your general like acting class and whatever that method is

0:27:20.200 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 2>that's taught at that conservatory, and then you're doing probably

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 2>a movement, voice speech, Shakespeare, probably script analysis, theater history,

0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 2>film history, those kinds of things. It is. That's why

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 2>it's really is like the conservatory word is like really

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>perfect because it's it's a heavily concentrated thing that you're doing.

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 2>It runs just like a school year runs, so you

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 2>have like the summers off and then in the summers

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>if you want to do something you can. Yeah, it's

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 1>It was hard after going through a conservatory. Do you

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>look at actors that say, I didn't do acting class

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and I just did it a do you look at

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>them a little different?

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>No? No, I think I think maybe you could or

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I could have right after, but at this point, no, like,

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this job is so hard. The career

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>is just so hard. And I think if you find

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 2>it however, it comes to you. You know, there's people

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>who are like who are like, I've never done an

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 2>acting class, but it's acting saved my life. Like I

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 2>don't have no judgment in any of that.

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>And then when you watch movies, do you look at

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>movies differently?

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>I think that that someone that came with just like

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 2>training and you know, being being an actor and then

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.960
<v Speaker 2>becoming a filmmaker like that. But I like at them

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 2>differently and just in a really fun way. Like so

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I just like engage a little bit differently,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm so curious about like like I had.

0:28:34.920 --> 0:28:35.440
<v Speaker 1>In my head.

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>There's like tiny, tiny moments of movies or TV shows

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>that like sit there because I just think they're phenomenal. Okay,

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Like what there's this, Okay, there's this scene in this

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 2>show Downton Abbey. There's a scene in the beginning of

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the show where one of the this guy is becoming

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 2>a butler for this new guy, and the new guy

0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>is very like I don't like any of this, and

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they have this back and forth and he the new guy,

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 2>says like something like to him like, I don't like,

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, something like what kind of what kind of

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 2>man has a job where he has addressed another man

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>for a living. And the reaction.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 1>That the butler has is just phenomenal.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I was like, that's just like he

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:17.160
<v Speaker 2>had because he's you can see he's he has he's

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 2>holding all of this and he's also like like experiencing

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>this moment of being oh like you know, demoralized. But

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:25.800
<v Speaker 2>he and it just all shows up in his face.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 2>It's such a beautiful, tiny moment and stuff like that.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to him. Yeah, a great acting job. Going

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.520
<v Speaker 1>back to your story, though, you complete the Conservative Tours,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Conservative Conservatory, Conservatory yeah ship no no, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you complete it. Yes, you kill it within under two

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 1>years as a year two years. Yeah, and then you

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>come back to l A.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>No. I stayed in New York and then I was like,

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this, ah, and I just like auditioned

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>for everything.

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 1>But now you said you're you're well, I guess I

0:30:03.440 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know the timeline because your auntie you said, pastor

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in COVID. Yeah, so did she? So she there must

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>have been a big gap between when you moved.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 2>There and yeah covid, yes, yes there was.

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So were you staying with her the whole time?

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:18.479
<v Speaker 2>No, I was with her for two years, and then

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 2>at the point my apartment, my partner and I moved

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>in together. And so that that's.

0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:24.040
<v Speaker 1>You were like a New Yorker.

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 2>No, not a New Yorker. But but he's in New

0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Yorker at heart?

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Where is he from?

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>A bit all over?

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But did you meet in New York?

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so y'all move in?

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>So you fell in love, fell in love, fell in

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>love in New York.

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then you move in together. You complete it

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>and both y'all are you're still not working a real job?

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>No? So okay. So throughout the conservatory program, I worked

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>as a waitress. I was a server.

0:30:58.520 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the hardest job in the world.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 2>It was so hard. I have so much respect. It

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>was so hard.

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.680
<v Speaker 1>So fast food gets all the respects in my book.

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, God, fast food jobs I can do.

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I was. I was a cocktail waitress, and

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.520
<v Speaker 2>then I was also a server. I worked at like

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 2>a hotel lobby, bar, I worked at another lobby bar

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I worked at STK Meatpacking, which was crazy. I worked

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:24.120
<v Speaker 2>all at the places all during all this, so I

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>worked at all these different places. And then towards the

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 2>end of my be finishing the conservatory program is when

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I went to babysitting. I used to babysit years before.

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I loved it. Though I loved it, I never had

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 2>a bad day, you know. I just felt like I

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:39.720
<v Speaker 2>never had a day where it ended, and I thought

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it was horrible.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Really with babysitting. How old were the kids?

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So my preference was like two and up. Okay, the

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 2>family I was with the longest, they were four and

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I think seven when I started welcome and they were amazing. Okay,

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>all right, So that's what I did. I mean, not

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of money because it's babysitting.

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>But babysitters, by the way, make good money.

0:32:02.000 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>No they do, they do? They do. I mean I

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 2>was making I was making not terrible money. But it

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>was also the beginning of that me read you know,

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>starting that again. And so I wasn't making bad money,

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>but it wasn't I wasn't full time, you know. And

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 2>but there there are the jobs that are like great

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>full time benefits and everything, but I wasn't full time.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It was part time babysitter. And that's how that's how live.

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And then you're auditioning the whole time.

0:32:24.000 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then auditioning the whole time booking like I

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>was doing, like like off off off Broadway theater, like

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>so like black Box Theater and that type of stuff,

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>web series and you know, just the feilt short film,

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.600
<v Speaker 2>anything like that you could do, which I learned a

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of lessons in. Maybe not everything you can do

0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you should or could do, but yeah, that's what I

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 2>was doing.

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>That was the most intriguing lesson you learned during that era.

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm. I think it was when you when you I

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it's intriguing, but when you finish, when

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>you finish, school, conservatory, whatever.

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of rhetoric of like, you know, audition

0:32:58.160 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 2>for everything, hmm, and to some degree I agree with that,

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>But I also found myself in situations that were not

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 2>healthy and that were dangerous, and so I think maybe

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 2>not audition for everything, auditioned maybe for most things, and

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, stantinto's down while you think that something's out

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 2>on line and.

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Walk away what's an example of like a situation you

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>put yourself into that was like unhealthy or not safe. Yeah.

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:32.200
<v Speaker 2>I had I had booked this play and I had

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>gone to the first rehearsal, which was more of like

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.960
<v Speaker 2>just kind of read through type of like vibes, and

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I remember that the character I was going to play

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.760
<v Speaker 2>was in a very abusive relationship. And I had asked

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the director, Hey, so there's some physical violence that happens

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>to the character in the play. Are we going to

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like fight choreo this, you know, and walk through this

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and da da da da. And the director was like, no, no,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>he's just gonna grab you and pull you across stage.

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, okay, sh that seems like a bad plan

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:15.240
<v Speaker 2>and really dangerous like physically and emotionally and mentally and everything.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>And that was a show. I was like went home

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.359
<v Speaker 2>and I was like I'm out, thank you so much.

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>You know. I've also like shown up for an audition

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>and audition in a hallway, which was shocking to me

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>that I left my job early to audition in a hallway,

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 2>So things like that could happen, you know. That's like

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>these are real stories. So I think that there is

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:40.279
<v Speaker 2>some of like you kind of got to learn the

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 2>ropes of like what's what and what is and like,

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, learn how to read like a breakdown, research

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>the people, and then sometimes you do all that, but

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 2>then you show up and you're like, m this seems

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>not okay. You know, You're like, oh, I've had friends

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 2>show up and the director hits on them and I'm like, no,

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.799
<v Speaker 2>that's not okay, it's not okay. So that's a we're

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 2>walking away from this situation. Thank you, no, thank you. Yeah,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's very hard to do.

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get it. That's got to be really tough,

0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>very hard to do. You're like, this could be my

0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:11.320
<v Speaker 1>first real break.

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>And you just want to work. You just want to work,

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 2>even if you know you want to work, you want

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to learn, you want to work, you want to practice.

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so after.

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 1>You work in a pustle and bustle of jobs, I

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>want to get closer to you and your real big like, well,

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm quitting these jobs. You do quit the jobs?

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're watching you on Netflix. So what's the

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 1>big play that kind of like says I can do

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>the thing?

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I think I was working for Okay,

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>so we're fast forwarding. Like I was working for a

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 2>nonprofit which I have a door and I've still work

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 2>with them now. And that's when like things start moving, right,

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:53.719
<v Speaker 2>That's when you I'm like, oh gosh, I think the

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 2>ship is like sailing okay, and and it really around

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>booking Beauty and Black and so. But I didn't quit

0:36:02.239 --> 0:36:02.760
<v Speaker 2>right away.

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I waited shout out to the nonprofit. It's made in.

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 2>So I've worked with nating her Image. But the nonprofit

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>is now known as Education Action and Alliance, and it's

0:36:13.400 --> 0:36:16.680
<v Speaker 2>a nonprofit that focuses on supporting LGBT plus youth in

0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 2>the state of Arizona. And so that is who I

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 2>was working with. Now I'm a board member on that nonprofit.

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's exciting. But yeah, so I like it

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>was like a slow crawl to that and then and

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>then booking Straw. I think was kind of the moment

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>where it was like, okay, I think actually and it

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>was a lot less about like two we know, it's

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot more about like I actually don't have the

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>capacity to do all of these things at the level

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 2>which they need to be done.

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>I think that's really kind of what happened for me.

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Things came to a head in that way.

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so when you can you take me through Beauty

0:36:51.200 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 1>and Black, like what the whole feelings vibes calls the

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>whole big shebang behind that moment.

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it was I just I fondly, fondly

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 2>would deeply remember the audition because I just remember me really.

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, this scene is the scene is long,

0:37:07.600 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and I want to make sure that like it's it's

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>active and interesting and keeps people watch, keeps the viewer

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>watching and trying to like curate just like dynamic choices

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:19.840
<v Speaker 2>throughout the whole scene that keep changing and changing and changing.

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>So that was really fun. But yeah, I mean I

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>did that and then my my agents called and they

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, like, so you booked this, And I

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, what.

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Does that mean?

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm a freezer. The show in Atlanta, okay,

0:37:35.840 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>and you at the time in La.

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh it was in La.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was in La.

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:41.759
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I think I just froze a bit,

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:44.480
<v Speaker 2>like I think frozen like processing cause it's just.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Especially you're still there.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, I think I Like I told I

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>told my husband and he was very exciting, and I

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>was just like because the pressure, you know, of wanting

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to just do a good job and that whole thing,

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 2>and also just like dynamically like what does it mean

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 2>and what is this mean for my career and all

0:38:01.120 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>those other things. But then you had to call the

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.960
<v Speaker 2>job and be like, well, I kept my job throughout

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 2>that whole.

0:38:07.400 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Thing, But did you did you tell them remote?

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>What was I told them, Well, I was remote already,

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:13.879
<v Speaker 2>I worked remotely, and I just told them like, hey,

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>this is what's happening in my schedule might be a

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>little funky. I had an intern at the time I

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>was doing I did communications, so it's still very like,

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, a home type thing and just like really

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:24.839
<v Speaker 2>like setting expectations and that sort of thing, and they

0:38:25.080 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>knew and it was just so incredibly supported. I've just

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 2>been very blessed to be supportive people that I've worked

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:30.160
<v Speaker 2>with or for.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>But that's also in testaments to your integrity, right because

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't have been that way if you didn't have

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of integrity in your way.

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess so, yeah, Yeah, So that was it

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 2>was just shocking, you know, I was really you don't

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.000
<v Speaker 2>know what it's going to be, you know, and this

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.120
<v Speaker 2>is like this is like a funny little thing. But

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>my mom, like years ago, years ago, my mom was like,

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to write a letter to Tyler, Perry and Oprah. Okay,

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to write this letter. And I was like, Mom,

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 2>like you need to chill, like this is not how

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>this business works. And She's like, I'm going to write

0:38:58.800 --> 0:38:59.960
<v Speaker 2>a letter and I'm going to send them this let

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 2>about you. And I was like, all right, I don't know,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.359
<v Speaker 2>go forth, go forth, like do what you need to do?

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Did no?

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>She did.

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>They wrote the.

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Letter though her my like my aunt wrote the letter,

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>but they never said it. And so like calling my

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>mom to tell her that was hilarious.

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Ye, and that's met a part of

0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:19.440
<v Speaker 1>manifestation right to some degree.

0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that lady manifested. Give it to her,

0:39:22.320 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>She'll give it to God.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna mail my Christmas list to her. So

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:28.359
<v Speaker 1>take me to Straw now.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So Straw was like it was like I had

0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:32.879
<v Speaker 2>just come off of Beauty and Black, which is really

0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>just just really invigorating experience.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 1>And just like what are the hours?

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:41.560
<v Speaker 2>By the way, long and short Oka mix back mixed

0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:44.719
<v Speaker 2>back like eight to twelve hours. Yeah, sometimes I think

0:39:44.719 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>it was it could be longer, but not not bad,

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 2>not for me. But and then Straw was like a

0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>month afterwards.

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I got a call.

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 2>From my agent was like, hey, you know, you're an

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>audition for this and I was like, okay, great, and

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 2>it was like it was it was something to do,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 2>I would say, the audition. So I called my one

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>of my coaches and I was like, yo, like I

0:40:06.600 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 2>need to I need some help one like how to

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.359
<v Speaker 2>how to throw myself into this headspace like like high

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.560
<v Speaker 2>energy and things like that, and so we kind of

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.480
<v Speaker 2>worked on that and then did the audition, and then

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and then again the same thing. Just got a call

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>but it was so fast. It was so fast. And

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.680
<v Speaker 2>then I went to Atlanta and I thought I was

0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.360
<v Speaker 2>going to be there for a while. I was not.

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, we're doing this, Like okay, how

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 2>long are you there for? For?

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 1>How long did it take?

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I was there for I think two weeks maybe not

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 2>very long at all, and a little bit yeah, a

0:40:39.239 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 2>little bit. Yeah, it's I'm trying to think what I

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 2>can't say.

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna drop June six, yeah, yeah.

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's a story. It's a story about a

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>how do I say this in a more meaningful way,

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:58.120
<v Speaker 2>It's really a story that's just reflective on how hard

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Black women are hit on a day to day basis,

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 2>which is really difficult stuff, difficult situations in all avenues

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of their lives lives, and and what happens when that

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.640
<v Speaker 2>is magnified and really comes to a head. Yeah, it's

0:41:20.440 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 2>it's I would it's a bit sad in a way

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 2>because it's a real reality. But that that is what

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it's about. It's about seeing how that how that can

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 2>function at its worst and its highest, and how that

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>functionality like affects black women. For me, like being a

0:41:38.800 --> 0:41:41.879
<v Speaker 2>black woman living in New York City, you know, it's

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 2>interesting like realizing that in a day that I could

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>have like five interactions that were just like trash because

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I was because I am a black woman. So this,

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 2>this this film really just like shines like a really

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 2>good like light on that and really amplifies it in

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>an extreme way because it is film and cinema, but

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:04.879
<v Speaker 2>a way that I think is really relevant and understandable

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and and a relatable.

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 1>And and the in Taraji, she plays a single parent,

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>right and then everyone else are they single parents? In No,

0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you get to see everyone getting hit from all different You.

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 2>Get to see the results of her being hit like that.

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 2>You get to receive the results of what what the

0:42:26.280 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>constant like it's you know, just like imagine somebody just

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 2>being punched, punch punched, you know every.

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Day of my life.

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Guys, the ones with lotion, we don't want that dry ship.

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, but no, but yeah, that's what it's.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 2>It's her being like, you know, hit in all these

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 2>different in all these different areas of her life, all

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.719
<v Speaker 2>at the same time. And what that what that can do,

0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>like what that can do to a person, and where

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that can lead us?

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>And this is a Netflix original right now, it's not

0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:01.959
<v Speaker 1>is any relation to Tyler Perry.

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it is Tyler Perry.

0:43:03.680 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Sounds like Tayler Perry written all over it.

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 2>It's Tyler Perry.

0:43:07.800 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Did you get to work with him up close? And

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I did? I did. How was that experience? Oh?

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>It's so great?

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Are you ever going to say anything bad about anybody?

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm joking. I'm joking, Ashley.

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I I think I've been very blessed,

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 2>very Yeah, I think I've had very positive situations. I've

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.640
<v Speaker 2>heard lots of things from people about lots of people

0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but I don't know. I I think I've

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.800
<v Speaker 2>been really blessed, Like I feel very protected. I feel

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 2>like I work when I need to be working. I

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>feel like I've been forced into states of rest when

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I need to rest. And I I've had really good experiences,

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like I've I've looked up to Traji forever.

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's very strong, forever.

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 2>She's she's an incredible actress, like incredible.

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.799
<v Speaker 1>And then you get to work with, you know, one

0:43:53.840 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>of the godfathers in the industry exactly.

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:59.279
<v Speaker 2>And so I think he came from theater too, yes, yes,

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 2>right and so and I think like the two then

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:05.640
<v Speaker 2>they they're so playful, you know, they're very found. I

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 2>found him to be very kind person. I think it

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 2>was really nice to be on that set because a

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of I think what you get as an actor,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 2>like obviously, like you're always trying to get to set right,

0:44:17.960 --> 0:44:19.360
<v Speaker 2>And I think it's so funny because we're trying to

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 2>get somewhere that we've never been, Like I'm just trying

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 2>to get there. I don't know if I like it

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:24.319
<v Speaker 2>when I get there, but I'm trying to get there

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and I and I end up being on this film

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and being on this set with two people who, like

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I said, are very playful. But so it's really interesting

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:38.279
<v Speaker 2>to watch like dynamic black people do this work. But

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 2>they are they're living in it, you know, they're living

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 2>in it. It's today, it is. It's so easy to

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>feel so precious about the work. And I understand that

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 2>because I have that, because there's so much anxiety about

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>really wanting to give what you've got to give your best.

0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But to watch her just be so seamless and to like,

0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:00.399
<v Speaker 2>like just I looked at her and I'm like, oh,

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:02.799
<v Speaker 2>she's a person, and you know, not that she's not

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a person, right, but I'm like, no, no, I think

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 2>she's like a normally normal size whatever that happen.

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>You know sometimes you're in this industry. You see people there.

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's like normal size. But just to see like

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.080
<v Speaker 2>her like living her life, like doing her job and

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.879
<v Speaker 2>then being freaking amazing. Like at one point, I swear

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 2>we're shooting something and I was just like staring at

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 2>her and I was like, girl, you gotta get back

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.920
<v Speaker 2>in the scene in the moment because I just was

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>like it's just so in awe of her ability and

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 2>her capacity, and it was really like it. I just

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>felt like I walked away feeling like I can't wait

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 2>for the for the point in my career and in

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 2>my life as an artist when I when I when

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I can harness that.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:51.399
<v Speaker 2>It was really nice. Yeah.

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Have you seen the then result of straw it?

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I don't know if what I

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 2>saw is the end.

0:45:57.480 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>But you do get a like sneak peek it I

0:45:59.200 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 1>had a tiny peak. What are you excited?

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm very exciting.

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>Was is it weird watching yourself?

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I hate watching myself?

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you critique yourself?

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:12.839
<v Speaker 2>I try not to. It's so hard, you know because

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.920
<v Speaker 2>like you know, as you have to, like in some dereay,

0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:16.759
<v Speaker 2>we naturally do because you do an audition. You gotta

0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:19.359
<v Speaker 2>watch the tape, wash the tape. Okay, that's the takee Okay,

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.880
<v Speaker 2>we'll send that one. You know, but you watch it tape.

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.759
<v Speaker 2>You know what happened my hair, you know, like all

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 2>these things. So it's hard not to do that. But

0:46:27.800 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 2>but maybe maybe a little bit. But I but I

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>think in the end, I just in one sense success

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>to me is like doing your best, and I did

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:38.880
<v Speaker 2>my best, So like I think I try to always

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>like separate a little bit when I'm like, you know,

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is is my best on

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>that day, in that moment.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:47.880
<v Speaker 1>So now that you see a lot of success also

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, do you feel like there's a part of

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you that's gonna move over there?

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:58.839
<v Speaker 1>No, no, she said, no, firm, firm, keeping your feet

0:46:58.840 --> 0:46:59.200
<v Speaker 1>in La.

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I don't know. I like to think

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.400
<v Speaker 2>of myself as a bit of a vagabond on the inside,

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 2>so I like to I do like to move around.

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So every time I move somewhere, I don't really decorate

0:47:08.480 --> 0:47:09.240
<v Speaker 2>because I think I'm.

0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Leaving and your husband's with all of this.

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're nice support, We're so together on this.

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah we're the vagupond thing. Like I think we're two

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.400
<v Speaker 2>piece like in a pot on that. But no, I

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 2>mean i'd love to I'd love to, you know, La

0:47:22.360 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 2>is fine. I'd love to live somewhere else. But yeah,

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm very open. I'm very open, you know. I think

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that the pandemic also like showed me that that,

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 2>like I could live anywhere for a period of time,

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I live in South Carolina. There's

0:47:35.960 --> 0:47:40.399
<v Speaker 2>just a strong choice. So my in laws lived there,

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:42.439
<v Speaker 2>my in law's lived there, and it was really nice

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to be with family during such a difficult time.

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:49.919
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, all right, well everybody, you can keep

0:47:50.000 --> 0:47:51.880
<v Speaker 1>up with Ashley? Where can I keep up with you?

0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead? I'm like yeah, oh la, oh no, I'm

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.640
<v Speaker 2>just kidding. I'm I'm a little already only on Instagram?

0:48:01.640 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>That is?

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 2>That? Is it? So at Ashley versure with the v's.

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure that Ashley version no, no space, nothing, nothing, nothing else.

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.920
<v Speaker 1>And then tell us where we can watch Straw and

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>all the updates on Straw.

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, Straw on Netflix.

0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It'd be great, It'll be great. It's a Tyler Perry production,

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.760
<v Speaker 1>it is, yes, And oh, by the way, last question,

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.800
<v Speaker 1>but how was his lot? Was it phenomenal?

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 2>It's fire for real?

0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is.

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I it is fire. I remember, it's huge. I was

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 2>on one side one night and I was like, hey, guys,

0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna walk back and they're like, no, like

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you're you're You're way way away from where you think

0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 2>you are. It's huge.

0:48:42.840 --> 0:48:43.920
<v Speaker 1>And did you get to tour it?

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:46.319
<v Speaker 2>I didn't tour, but I've been around a lot of it.

0:48:46.360 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know you could tour that. You could

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 2>tour it though, you know, it's just pund My thoughts

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:55.239
<v Speaker 2>were like happy to be here possibly, so I was like,

0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:58.879
<v Speaker 2>I need nothing with water maybe, but happy to be here. Yeah. Yeah,

0:48:58.880 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 2>it's nice.

0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I can see I can see you being like that.

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm just like, can I just have coffee

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 2>and eggs?

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes? And they don't even have to be brown.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:07.879
<v Speaker 2>I'll take the white. I'll take a hard boiled. That's

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>what that was what I wanted.

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Wow, I did okay well, staying true to eggs. Thank

0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you so much for your time. Really appreciated your eggs.

0:49:17.160 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>They were really good.

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 2>It's too much.

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:23.280
<v Speaker 1>I think it was fine. It was like perfectly fluffy,

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>like restaurant style. Thanks for tuning in, y'all. Peace out

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