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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Greetings and welcome

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Speaker 1: in a red carpet championship edition of Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I may or may not be wearing a tux in

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Speaker 1: the studio Theater of the Mind people. Welcome in Mike

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Speaker 1: Carbon alongside my tag team partner Dan Byer as we

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Speaker 1: get ready for another big day across the sporting universe.

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Speaker 1: As you heard, is a Low and Crowns update. We

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Speaker 1: already have baseball underway. We've got the travelers underway as well,

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Speaker 1: with Fleetwood atop the leaderboard, always keeping an eye on

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Speaker 1: Rory McElroy whether he's going to have a great round

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Speaker 1: or tell us something crazy in his post or just

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Speaker 1: walk off. Yeah, exactly at Dan Byron Fox where he

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Speaker 1: inviting me. Hear him during the week as part of

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Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show and Cavino and Rich's going on, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: A big championship.

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Speaker 2: Day, Absolutely big day at Fox Sports Radio, big weekend.

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Speaker 2: You may not be in a tux. We may have

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Speaker 2: someone here that was wearing the clothes they wore last night.

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Speaker 2: We won't reveal any names, but it is a crazy,

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Speaker 2: crazy day, and I thought we would at this point Mike,

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Speaker 2: I thought that we would get a Game seven. We

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Speaker 2: talked about it last week and the way that this

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Speaker 2: series has played out, what do you know? It delivers

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Speaker 2: tonight and who's gonna win is still in the balance.

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Speaker 2: I think in everything and everyone's mind, there's the reason

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Speaker 2: to pick Oklahoma City. But then you just have those

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Speaker 2: dare I call them the pesky Pacers for a literation purposes, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Game seven exciting days if you're a sports fan.

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Speaker 1: When we looked at this one overall, I'm gonna hate

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Speaker 1: watch it. I'm just gonna say it right out here.

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Speaker 1: Three minutes into the hour of I didn't like Game five.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely loathe the lack of effort from OKC. Second quarter.

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Speaker 1: I was like, ah, shots aren't falling. Pack it up.

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Speaker 1: Terrible game from SGA. Go back to Game five, Haliburton

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Speaker 1: and all the excuse making and everything that went on.

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Speaker 1: Guy played thirty four minutes. Right, we judge a guy

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Speaker 1: in between the white lines, and what you do. You

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Speaker 1: can tell me you're injured, and then you said, well

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Speaker 1: it would be a multi weekend or injury. Other well

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Speaker 1: then he shouldn't be playing. If it's a multi week injury,

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Speaker 1: he'd be missing a game, wouldn't he.

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Speaker 2: That's what they said him. If it was a regular

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Speaker 2: season game, he would not have played with that injury, but.

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Speaker 1: Also calling it this y you know, diabolical. Hey, it

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Speaker 1: would be a multi week but look out hard he's

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Speaker 1: playing and he moved just fine, swimming along. It didn't

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Speaker 1: have to play heavy minutes, but going after loose balls,

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Speaker 1: doing all the extras that normally you're you're a little

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Speaker 1: uh more cautious of if if you're on the border.

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Speaker 2: In terms of an injury, well, I do think that

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Speaker 2: it has our senses heightened, just from what we've seen

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Speaker 2: not only in these playoffs, but in other final scenarios.

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Speaker 2: And not to jinx or say anything Mike, but calf

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Speaker 2: injuries have been known to lead to bigger issues, and

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Speaker 2: I think that's what we feared with Tyreese Halliburton. And

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Speaker 2: hopefully it's just a minor, minor injury that doesn't lead

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Speaker 2: to anything bigger. But I felt that that was something

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Speaker 2: that I was looking at that was not on how

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Speaker 2: effective he would or wouldn't be, but would he even

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Speaker 2: be able to make it through the game. Considering the

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Speaker 2: history that we've seen with a Damian Lillard, injury, Jason

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Speaker 2: Tatum injury, Kevin Durant nineteen those all of those reasons, like,

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Speaker 2: that's the scary part to me when it comes to Halliburton.

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Speaker 2: But didn't seem to really show any effects to your

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Speaker 2: point in game six, So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, game to game, day to day, some

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Speaker 1: days you feel better than others when you're off an injury.

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Speaker 1: Had a little medical incident my own self yesterday. I've

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Speaker 1: been feeling great, lost some weight, failing, all good, and

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Speaker 1: was standing going getting ready to watch my daughter socker games.

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Speaker 2: So dizzy, gotta watch those sugar levels, right, Yeah, you.

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Speaker 1: Know that's it. So come monitoring all that, but you

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Speaker 1: think you're doing everything right, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: all that to say, we get to a game seven,

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Speaker 1: which we haven't seen in a decade. We talk about

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Speaker 1: season vanquishing all comers, sixty eight wins and the pay

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Speaker 1: the beginning of January, peaking right time rotations. Maybe a

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Speaker 1: different Carlisle discussion if they're able to pull this off

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Speaker 1: right he's just on the border of the top ten

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Speaker 1: his second title. All of those things got to go

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Speaker 1: roster depth, and then we're always still trying to fight

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, it is. I think your Carlisle point is

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Speaker 2: well taken. I think that is. I actually think he's

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Speaker 2: the biggest winner in this series, and it can be validated,

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Speaker 2: It could be put in concrete with a win in

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Speaker 2: Game seven on the road. But I think that what

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Speaker 2: we've seen from Rick Carlile is and I remember when

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Speaker 2: Rick carl Lyle, before he even won the title with

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Mavericks and wasn't a head coach or was

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Speaker 2: a young head coach in the NBA, there were great

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Speaker 2: expectations for him, and then to think that here's a

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Speaker 2: guy that only has one title. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: say that he underachieved, because that's not what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: is saying that we kind of lost the narrative who

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Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle was. And I think throughout these entire playoffs,

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Speaker 2: he's been probably the biggest winner. And if you can

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Speaker 2: cap it off with your second title, yeah, absolutely, it

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Speaker 2: puts him in all time greats is a crazy word, Mike,

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Speaker 2: then you can move the pieces about wherever. So I

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Speaker 2: think that he's actually been the biggest winner in all

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Speaker 2: of this. But I still don't back down to something

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Speaker 2: that I said on this program and I said on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios, whoever wins tonight will be the worst

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Speaker 2: champion that we've had in decades and in my lifetime,

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Speaker 2: Because for what makes you so mad about Game six

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Speaker 2: the Pacers, and how we look at the NBA and

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Speaker 2: how we look at the regular season, there's just no

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Speaker 2: way that these teams, with their faults, are better than

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Speaker 2: any of the champions that we've seen, and you take

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Speaker 2: even the past couple of years where we've had these

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Speaker 1: Wins last yet that old dynastic approach.

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Speaker 2: You look back at that Raptors team that kind of

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Speaker 2: but I don't think anybody legitimately thought that they were

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Speaker 2: the fact of Pascal Siaka was probably the second best

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Speaker 2: you want to look at a Kuhi was number one,

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Speaker 2: is significantly better than this Oklahoma City team, or would

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Speaker 2: be better than this Indiana Pacers team that would end

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Speaker 2: up winning the title. Take other teams that we've seen

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Speaker 2: up to that expectation in my way. But I've been

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Speaker 2: entertained with the series. I didn't hate Game six as

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Speaker 2: much as you did because I knew on the other

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Speaker 2: hated the Thunders performance and all of that, but you know,

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Speaker 2: by by and large, for what we've got for this, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I come out, I come out pleased, and we'll enjoy tonight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. In the in the end, when at once they

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Speaker 1: tip off, Hey, I got a game seven, I got

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Speaker 1: a Sunday night, I got a game yeah, right, I'll

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Speaker 1: have that. Got Sunday night. Baseball life is good, and

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Speaker 1: that part of it I certainly take and embrace. It's

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Speaker 1: a Love than Pacific Go on Fox, and we're breaking

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Speaker 1: down games and when they're contentious and when we've got flow,

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Speaker 1: it's great. But when we're also having to watch a

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Speaker 1: regular season game fifty eight. I may get it in

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Speaker 1: the best of seven in an earlier round, but in

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Speaker 1: the finals where anything, And you've already watched this series

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Speaker 1: be as odd in terms of its pacing and rhyme

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Speaker 1: though they may have played a little more functionally better

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Speaker 1: And no point did you feel that game was in doubt?

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Speaker 2: No, And didn't Indiana also start out the second half

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Speaker 2: So it wasn't like Indiana was was this top level

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Speaker 3: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: I get it from the chair that that you're sitting

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Speaker 2: in when this stuff is happening. It's it's a really

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Speaker 2: the shift change, the change in momentum, the warm front

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Speaker 2: when nobody's hitting any shots, there's not much that that

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Speaker 1: With so so, but it's a three point game after one.

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Speaker 1: Then OKAC has that drought in the second quarter. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: and they they get boat raced for the balance of

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Speaker 1: final scenario. And look, Shay was careless with the basketball,

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Speaker 1: just sloppy and whenever you start giving up big transition opportunities,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it does, it does seem. And I

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Speaker 2: know that they did win a game in Indianapolis, so

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Speaker 2: it's not like they were skunked in Indianapolis. But the

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Speaker 2: way that they've played in their losses and turning the

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Speaker 2: it does feel that Oklahoma City has kind of succumbed

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Speaker 2: sometimes to the atmosphere. Maybe they just put it on

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Speaker 2: cruise control in game one and then we're just out

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Speaker 2: of their you know, out of their sorts in games

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Speaker 2: three and in game six. But for whatever reason, great

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Speaker 2: teams don't do that. I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 2: great series. I think it's been an enjoyable series, and

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Speaker 2: I'm not all over the map on this, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like going into the series, we thought a couple

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Speaker 1: Let's continue our fun and exciting trip around the NFL

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Speaker 2: off a bunch of the names. We know that justin

431
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Speaker 2: Herbert and how the Chargers play football. It's not about

432
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Speaker 2: fantasy stats, right. I see one ranking where Joe Flacco's

433
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Speaker 2: ahead of Michael PENNOCKX Junior.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I just I do not.

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Speaker 2: I just do not believe that his value is being

436
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Speaker 2: appreciated for what it could be. I think they're gonna

437
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Speaker 2: score a lot of points. They have an offensive line,

438
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Speaker 2: they have a running game, you have the ability to

439
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: get yards from your back your backs as well. You've

440
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: got two solid wide receiver options and Ray Ray McLoud

441
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: who is actually a productive player as well, and we

442
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Speaker 2: haven't even figured out the Kyle Pitts portion of it.

443
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Speaker 2: I just like I am bullish on the Falcons this year,

444
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Speaker 2: and specifically Pennick Junior because of everything that is around

445
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Speaker 2: him and how they've now they have the team for

446
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: him set up to succeed. Doesn't change my opinion on

447
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: how we all came to the team and what they

448
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: did with Kirk Cousins. But we are where we are,

449
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Speaker 2: and I love where Atlanta is at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned Mooney and now McLeod like two guys

451
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: that are being drafted as deep fourth wide receivers for

452
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Speaker 1: fantasy purposes, the opportunity perhaps to outperform at Outshine there.

453
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Bijon Robinson, depending on your flavor, either the

454
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Speaker 1: first or second back off the in most drafts that

455
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Speaker 1: we're looking at Gibbs and Barkley shortly thereafter, and then

456
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Speaker 1: you start sliding down. Bucky Irving staying in division with

457
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Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. He's ninth or tenth, depending on which boards

458
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Speaker 1: you're looking at. Alvin Kamara is still a top fifteen guy,

459
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Speaker 1: but questions on his health and whether they're going to

460
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Speaker 1: kind of downgrade his touches per game. But with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback situation there probably gonna have to lean on that

462
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Speaker 1: run game a bit more. Do you have enough balance

463
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Speaker 1: to where he gets to be at his best? Certainly

464
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Speaker 1: a question mark.

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Speaker 2: It's the running back scenario that you've got in the

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Speaker 2: NFC South right now is actually more fruitful than I

467
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Speaker 2: think people would realize.

468
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen in New Orleans, Mike,

470
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Speaker 2: so as we break down down this division, it's not

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Speaker 2: a lack of investment that we have in the New

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Speaker 2: Orleans Saints is. I just think they're going to be

473
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Speaker 2: so bad that I have no idea how it turns out.

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Speaker 2: So I kind of remove, like Alvin Kamara, you know

475
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Speaker 2: Miller from the conversation, But if you have Bijeon, who's

476
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Speaker 2: borderline number one? Bucky Irving sure seemed like he fit

477
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Speaker 2: a lot more than Rashad White did. Even after White's

478
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 2: solid season that he had in twenty twenty three, there

479
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: was still some questions you were like, does this work?

480
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Speaker 2: Is this him? Is this not him? It seemed to

481
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Speaker 2: work with Bucky Irving and with Carolina Hubbard was amazing.

482
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Speaker 2: And when you look at what Bryce Young has done,

483
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: the bar was so low for Bryce Young that anything

484
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 2: that he did above that bar was considered progress. But

485
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Speaker 2: the reason they were a team that you thought at

486
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Speaker 2: the end of the year was because of the emergence

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Speaker 2: of Bryce Young and because of how good of a

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Speaker 2: back Chewba Hubbard ended up being for them. And there

489
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Speaker 2: was a lot of what conversation with Jonathan Brooks and

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Speaker 2: other guys coming in trying to take over the spot

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Speaker 2: and instead Chew Bobbard ends up holding on to the

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Speaker 2: to the gig himself. And yeah, I really like what

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Speaker 2: he I really like his spot in Carolina because they

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Speaker 2: we do expect them to get better. But just running

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Speaker 2: backs in that division I think are underappreciated, not Bijon

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Speaker 2: but even Tyler l Jeer for what he does being

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Speaker 2: the you know, the number two guy in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for fours near to five yards of carry. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: absolutely moving the curiosity right when we look at Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, he's going to be on the shelf again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So they bring in Rico Doubtele of the Dallas cowboy

502
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Speaker 1: fame and Trevor at ten. Yes, so we'll see. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: certainly Hubbard with every opportunity to capitalize and parlay great

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Speaker 1: success from a year ago moving forward. Uh, when we

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Speaker 1: look at the division as a whole, it's look, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to get talked about a ton, right it' yes,

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00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: it's they who's the last team standing more or less

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Speaker 1: as much as there's a renaissance of Baker Mayfield love

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Speaker 1: and such that it's just kind of pushed to the

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Speaker 1: side a bit.

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Speaker 2: I I think the Buccaneers are the given okay in

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Speaker 2: all of this, But I'm gonna go to Georgia and

513
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Speaker 2: in sant Trevor et and I gotta say Florida and Georgia.

514
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Speaker 2: It's the only fair thing to do. Sorry Bulldogs. But Mike,

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Speaker 2: I do love this Falcons team. There's there's I think

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Speaker 2: that there is there's something different about them. But the

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Speaker 2: one thing that is holding me back from saying that

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Speaker 2: they can supplant the Tampa Bay Buccaneers from the top

519
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: spot is this schedule. Okay, if you'll bear with me,

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00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: I did a breakdown of the Falcons schedule and this

521
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: isn't a win or loss This is just to hear

522
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: there and everywhere. They have their buy in Week five.

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00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 2: Never great to have an early buy, and one of

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Speaker 2: the things the NFL does for some reason, I don't

525
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: know why they do this, but they'll put a team

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Speaker 2: on buy and then they'll have them play Monday night,

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Speaker 2: so they almost give them like an extra day, which

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Speaker 2: I think is weird because I would rather just play

529
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Speaker 2: on Sunday and be a normal week the next week.

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Speaker 2: But that's not what the Falcons get. They get Week

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Speaker 2: six home against the Bills on Monday night. Then they

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Speaker 2: have to travel to San Francisco on what is now

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Speaker 2: a short week against one of the better teams that

534
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: you would think health if they stay healthy in the NFC,

535
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: come back home to face Miami. Then they're at New

536
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Speaker 2: England in Germany against the Colts, come back and play

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Speaker 2: at home against Carolina, then have back to back road

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00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: games against the Saints and Jets host the Seahawks. The

539
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: reward for that is going to Tampa on a short

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Speaker 2: week and play Thursday night football, and then they're at

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Speaker 2: Arizona after that. So after their mini bi of playing

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Speaker 2: on Thursday night, they still have another road game. They

543
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: basically have three home games between Week four and Week seventeen.

544
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Speaker 2: Very wacky schedule. So what happens when you get with

545
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: the seventeen games schedule? But to have your buy so

546
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: early and to then not have it after the Germany

547
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: trip when you're traveling to San Francisco and whatnot. I

548
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: if there's anything that could mess them up, it could

549
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: be just how irregular it is. And then you and

550
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: I can rant on schedules forever. But they're here, there

551
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: and everywhere with very little break during the middle of

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Speaker 2: the season.

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers the division favorite plus one hundred, Falcon second favorite

554
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: plus two to forty. Then we get to Carolina four

555
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: to one, Saints all the way out there at ten

556
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: to one, the over under for wins for the Atlanta

557
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: Falcons seven and a half.

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00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 2: Am I crazy?

559
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: Do you like the Falcons as much as I think

560
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: there's certainly the opportunity. It's all dependent on what we

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00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: get out of Penix? Right? Is he the guy that

562
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: we saw play college ball that we can now plug

563
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,959
Speaker 1: in and we look I like that receiving court, right,

564
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: we mentioned like the secondary tertiary guys. Kyle Pitts is

565
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: an enigma, like we've been trying to hype him. It

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00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: seems like you and I do in the Fantasy podcast

567
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: the I watch flex podcast by the way, get it

568
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: wherever you download your podcast, trying to evaluate him for

569
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: years as to is he a top five guys? He

570
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: ever going to be a top five guy with consistency.

571
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: It's one thing to get to the final numbers based

572
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: on two or three Monster games that come out of nowhere,

573
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: but he's never been that consistent contributor that I say

574
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that with the tight end position, because there is so

575
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: much fluctuation that you can still be a monster just

576
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: off a couple of games. By he's like one of

577
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: the hardest players to rank year to year. Just is

578
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: it finally the breakthrough? But for Pennix Junior, the expectation

579
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: like I don't worry about Captain Kirk like he's there,

580
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: it's it's his presence is a nuisance to what they're

581
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: trying to push forward. And I'm not saying he's a

582
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: bad guy or whatever. He wants his his space. And

583
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Speaker 1: if you believe the reports that he had no idea

584
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Speaker 1: that Pennix was coming into the room, does he make

585
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Speaker 1: a different decision. I don't know, Maybe, maybe not they

586
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Speaker 1: paid him a lot of money. Kirk spent a lot

587
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Speaker 1: about getting his dollars through his years. Right, He's the

588
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: the Business Hall of Fame is what we joke around

589
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: the hallways here with him all the time. So I

590
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: don't think that really, if anything, it means they'll be

591
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: better at some point because there will be an injury.

592
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: There will be a team that was in the throws

593
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Speaker 1: the white towel like Duke in the Rocky movie or

594
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: well that he didn't throw the towel, sorry spoiler. That

595
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: you get to the point where team wants to make

596
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: it make a deal, and really it just becomes about

597
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: how much money Arthur Blank's willing to eat to get out.

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00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right, And there will be a team.

599
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: You're right. There will be an injury in somebody that

600
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: wants UH to do something. It just isn't happening right now.

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Speaker 1: There you go, excided to go over to the news desk.

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00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: We have some breaking news and an update from our guy.

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Speaker 4: Bus from Fox Sports.

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Speaker 5: ESPN has just reported that the Phoenix Suns are trading

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant to the Houston Rockets in exchange for Jalen

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Speaker 5: Green Dylan Brooks. The number ten pick in the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five NBA Draft and five second round draft picks. Again,

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Speaker 5: ESPN reporting thirty six seconds ago to be exact, that

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Speaker 5: the Phoenix Suns are trading Kevin Durant to the Houston

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Speaker 5: Rockets for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, the number ten pick

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Speaker 5: in the draft and five second round picks.

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Speaker 2: Ouy, I's gonna say, Isaac's just tell us the baseball

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Speaker 2: scores and that could be his update honestly, because that's

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Speaker 2: about what's going on right now.

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Speaker 5: Right Uh yeah, Oils to to one over the Aches

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Speaker 5: at the top of the fourth, the Tigers won nothing

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Speaker 5: over the Rays and the top of the third, and

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Speaker 5: repeating our top story, the Phoenix Suns trading Kevin Durant

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Speaker 5: to the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, Thanks so much. Illo. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Break next speed at Isaac Lowan Krown see what he's

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Speaker 1: the work he's doing with Angel City FC. We'll break

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Speaker 1: down the trade in earnest in about twenty minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah we can, and if we need to hold

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Speaker 2: off the feud, we can because of this deal. But

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Speaker 2: let's just say that the timing couldn't be better as

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Speaker 2: we tease the feud. I'll just leave it that.

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Speaker 1: How about we do the feud okay as as scheduled

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Speaker 1: as Brob do you want to? Yeah, So that'll be

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Speaker 1: the tease that it ties to everything we're doing here,

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk about the Kevin Durant trade coming up

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Speaker 1: in about twenty minutes. Crazy action on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 1: He's Dan Byer, I'm Mike Carbon, and this is Fox

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Speaker 4: Go back in.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday by Carbon. Dan

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Speaker 1: Byer with you here as we have a momentous Sunday morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Game seven of the NBA Finals. We got the

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00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: draft coming up in short order. All of that funds up.

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Speaker 1: We got some corn hole on the TV as well

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Speaker 1: as some golf and throw back to old playoff games.

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Speaker 1: But we have the trade that Isaac Low and Cron

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Speaker 1: brought you, Kevin Durant being dealt to the Houston Rockets

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Speaker 1: for a number of draft picks Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks

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Speaker 1: and in the number ten in this week's draft. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that Ian Ernest coming out about ten minutes

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Speaker 1: from now, breaking down the good, the bad, the ugly,

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Speaker 1: and as I say that, the bad, the ugly, I'm

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Speaker 1: triple underscoring with a giant question mark. But we'll leave

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Speaker 1: that and tease that ahead because now it's time to

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Speaker 1: give the stick microphone today and buyer, because everybody's here's.

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Speaker 2: Time to play the feud with the Fox family. He's Mike, Carmy,

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Speaker 2: Chris Purfett, Producer Shay and Isaac loin Kron are here.

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Speaker 2: By the way, David Stern never would have let this happened.

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Speaker 2: There is no way this trade is broken on the

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Speaker 2: eve of a Game seven of the NBA Finals if

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Speaker 2: David last.

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Speaker 5: Night, you guys, yes, I'm so sorry to interrupt. So

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Speaker 5: there's this collectible event, Fanatics Fest. Apparently Kevin Durant was

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Speaker 5: on stage when the news broke, and that's how we

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Speaker 5: found out about the trade.

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Speaker 4: There's a video on social media that I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 1: He's got Sorry, We've got a big interest in the

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Speaker 1: collectibles marketplace. We'll talk about that as we go. That

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Speaker 1: is that is great stuff, all right. Top twelve answers

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Speaker 1: on the board. Tonight in an NBA Finals MVP will

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Speaker 1: be awarded and for whoever that is. It'll be the

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Speaker 1: first of their career. What I want to know, who

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Speaker 1: are the twelve multiple NBA Finals MVP Award winners.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's the catch, three strikes in a pass. If

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Speaker 2: you get to ten, I will reveal one of the

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Speaker 2: right one of the remaining answers, which will leave one

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Speaker 2: answer remaining. Okay, so if you get to ten without

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Speaker 2: striking out, I'll reveal one of them. Mike Harmon was

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Speaker 2: start with you. I'll just take Jordan and walk all right,

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Speaker 2: show me Michael Jordan six of them, most of anybody

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Speaker 2: at NBA history. He's the number one answer. Over to

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Speaker 2: Chris Purfett.

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Speaker 6: How does to take the other easy one? I'm going

681
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Speaker 6: to take Lebron James.

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Speaker 4: Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: Show me Lebron James, four time winner twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, and twenty twenty. Over to producer Shay NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals MVP is on multiple occasions. Good Kareem, Kareem, show

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Speaker 2: me Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Yes, there he is on the

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Speaker 2: list nineteen seventy one and nineteen eighty five. Over to

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lowencroft.

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Speaker 4: Irvin Magic Judson.

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Speaker 2: Once not twice. Show me Magic, a three time NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals MVP nineteen eighty nineteen eighty two, in nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: Back around to Mike Carmen Kevin Durant, Show me Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 2: There I was fit. The timing couldn't have been better.

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Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen Finals MVP. We are five for

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Speaker 2: five Jordan Lebron, Magic, Kareem, and Durant all off the

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Speaker 2: board in our multiple finals MVP category. Over to Chris Perfett.

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Speaker 6: Well, since we've well trodden ground in the nineties, what

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Speaker 6: about Hakim Elijawan.

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Speaker 2: Show me the dream? We are six for six nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety four and nineteen ninety five. Over to Shay Oh

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Speaker 2: give me, I don't know those big mic Or Shack

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Speaker 2: two thousand and two thousand and one, two thousand and two,

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Speaker 2: a three time award winner. There's one three timer left

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Speaker 2: and the rest are all two time winners. They're not

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Speaker 2: two timers, they're two time winners. Back around to Isaac Lohenkron.

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Speaker 4: Our winner is Larry Bird.

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Speaker 2: All right, show me the hick from French Lick. There

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Speaker 2: he is number eight nineteen eighty four, nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 2: with his QW Finals MVPs. We are eight for eight

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Speaker 2: looking for four other names. We are two away from

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Speaker 2: me revealing one of the names in a perfect game,

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Speaker 2: still intact, Mike Carmen, over to you, Uh Duncan show

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Speaker 2: me Tim Duncan nine for nine, nineteen ninety nine, two

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Speaker 2: thousand and three. In two thousand and five he was

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Speaker 2: the other more than two winner of the Finals MVP.

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Speaker 2: This is big, Chris, because if you get this, I

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Speaker 2: reveal the answer and then it could be all on

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Speaker 2: Shay for the perfect game.

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Speaker 6: You know what, since we're saying in San Antonio, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard, Kawi Leonard's a multi MVP.

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Speaker 2: Show me Kawhi Leonard. There it is Kawhi Leonard twenty

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Speaker 2: fourteen and twenty nineteen. That allows me, because you guys

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Speaker 2: got to ten in perfect fashion. By the way, to

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Speaker 2: reveal one of the answers, I will reveal willis Reed

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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy and nineteen seventy three. The award dates back

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Speaker 2: to nineteen sixty nine, so that leaves one player for

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Speaker 2: producer Shay, who just four hours ago was doubling down

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Speaker 2: on a six and a five. What do you got, Shay?

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Speaker 2: I did not have this answer until he said Kawhi

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Speaker 2: Leonard because the Spurs.

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Speaker 1: I I thought it was screwed here.

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Speaker 4: Tim Duncan guarant Tim dun.

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Speaker 2: No, that's okay, that's okay, don't.

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Speaker 4: Worry about that.

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Speaker 1: It was Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Lebron, James, Magic Johnson, Shaquille and Neil, Tim Duncan,

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Speaker 2: Willis Reed, Kareem Larry Bird, Hakeem Olajuwon, Kevin Durant, and

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Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard all off the board. There's one name remaining.

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Speaker 4: There's one name, Shay for the perfect game. Come on, Shay,

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Speaker 4: this is easy.

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Speaker 6: Come on, Sha this is easy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it is easy.

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Speaker 1: It has it has to be.

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Speaker 4: Come on, search Kobe. We said that you think.

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Speaker 6: No, we haven't said that. We said we have not

747
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Speaker 6: said Kobe, Kobe, give me cous that your final answer.

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Speaker 6: That's my family answer.

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Speaker 1: Give me Kobe.

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Speaker 2: Show me Kobe Bryant.

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Speaker 1: That's got he does.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand and nine, two thousand and ten, he does

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Speaker 2: it all right, perfect game.

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Speaker 1: Could joby Bryant. So he got chosen twelve out of

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Speaker 1: twelve No. In the NBA All Time Greats Draft.

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Speaker 3: I just like that.

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Speaker 1: It's Laker Dodger officionado. That we got to coax that

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Speaker 1: out of I know, I know. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: When he said I got it, I got it, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, then he knows that it's COVID, so I

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Speaker 2: got it.

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Speaker 1: Stumbled there, but but we got it to find fashion

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Speaker 1: it was.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 4: It was early morning.

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Speaker 2: She just flew in from the Cavino and Rich fest

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 6: This was his arms tired.

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Speaker 4: So yes, there you go.

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Speaker 1: He's Dad, I'm by it, got Shay, that's Chris, that's Isaac.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, we break down the trade Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: and watch his reaction as we go on on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in hour or two of

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Speaker 1: the program of momentus Fox Sports Sunday. Thanks for spending

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Speaker 1: a few minutes with us here. As we drift into

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Speaker 1: the early afternoon on the East Coast, We've got some

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Speaker 1: day baseball, We've got the Travelers Championship. We've got Game

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Speaker 1: seven later on tonight. But that's not the story anymore.

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Speaker 1: Mike Harment alongside Dan bayer ab a tag team partner

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Speaker 1: at Dan Byer on Fox Where you find it, find

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Speaker 1: me over at swollen dome. Isaac Lowenkron last Hour gave

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Speaker 1: us the gem the off season of great expectations for

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Speaker 1: movement across the league, a lot of big names moving

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Speaker 1: across the chessboard, while one of them has fallen before

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Speaker 1: Game seven of the NBA Finals. As you said, I

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Speaker 1: think absolutely correctly, Dan last Hour, like David Stern, many

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Speaker 1: other people in charge, are not allowing this to happen

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Speaker 1: on the morning of a day seven.

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Speaker 2: No, not on the eve of your deciding championship game tonight.

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Speaker 2: And I tweeted the same thing. Stern would never let

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Speaker 2: this happen because this was not a coincidence. This was

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Speaker 2: not a coincidence that Kevin Durant is on stage at

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Speaker 2: the fanatics fest that you know so much about for

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Speaker 2: a conversation involving the boardroom, which is Kevin Durant and

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Speaker 2: Rich Clemban, their company, their deal. This was not This

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Speaker 2: is so the NBA mic and I hate to say it,

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Speaker 2: but this is so why it gets so tiring, and

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Speaker 2: I love trades tomorrow on this network, on your TV networks,

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Speaker 2: on all of the other channels, it will be fifty

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Speaker 2: to fifty on whether they're talking about Durant or they're

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00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: talking about who is just crown the NBA champion, And

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Speaker 2: that is what's so crazy to me. This is so contrived,

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Speaker 2: This was so put out there. And if you're the

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Speaker 2: Houston Rockets, yeah, absolutely go do what you want to do,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant, how you want to do it. There's no

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Speaker 2: way that this was just a coincidence that it was

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Speaker 2: announced while he was on stage at fanatics Fest.

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Speaker 1: Now we mentioned fanatics Fest for those unaware. You may

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Speaker 1: you may have bought some sports memorabilia, maybe he got

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Speaker 1: trading cards, whatever. They've got Michael Rubin getting into that

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Speaker 1: working with tops and everything. But this is the second

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Speaker 1: year of a massive event at the Javit Center and

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Speaker 1: taking over New York City, where you've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of activations from the leagues, from league partners, and then

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Speaker 1: a cavalcade of stars coming through for photo ops, autograph signings,

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Speaker 1: things like this live podcast. So sitting down for a

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Speaker 1: conversation with Taylor Rooks, smile on his face as it's announced,

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Speaker 1: crowd goes nuts and as you would never convince me

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Speaker 1: that this wasn't. I mean, he knew obviously, he's a

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Speaker 1: veteran of the years that he has in the league.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a done deal before he walks on

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Speaker 1: to that stage. But he's going back to his time

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Speaker 1: with Golden State. It's been interesting to watch the business

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Speaker 1: side of the Durant move. How many big friends and

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Speaker 1: businesses he partnered with there. But he also got into

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Speaker 1: the memorabilia business. I'm not surprised that he would make

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Speaker 1: it part of this event which has gone next level.

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Speaker 1: I was telling you during the break, you know, Victor,

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Speaker 1: when when Yama comes back from his sojourn at the

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Speaker 1: monastery and he's buying twenty five hundred dollars autograph Mark

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Speaker 1: Hamill Star Wars cards. You got Emma Roberts, the actress.

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Speaker 1: She's out and buying stuff Livy don buying up all

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Speaker 1: the rare Paul Skiings cards, and they're talking to her

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Speaker 1: like she's five. On principle, I wouldn't have spent a

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Speaker 1: dime of my money on these booths. You know who

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Speaker 1: you are. They'll talk down to her. She knows what

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Speaker 1: a numbered out of ten card means.

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Speaker 2: You dopes what you're talking about. But anyway, but all

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Speaker 2: of that to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, but look, if the card's out of five, there's

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Speaker 1: five prints, like they're talking to her like, you know,

842
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Speaker 1: realize there's only a handful of these talking talking, talking

843
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Speaker 1: down to her like she was a child. Like, no,

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Speaker 1: she's now been in this game a couple of years

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Speaker 1: at a minimum. But walking around and there's a video

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Speaker 1: for negotiating deals and you know, trying to do the

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Speaker 1: sales pitch. Some of the most cringey things I think

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Speaker 1: I've seen in recent memory. And I used to traffic

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Speaker 1: in doing these these shows.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the U I know that.

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Speaker 2: I thought Isaac Longcrown, Hey, just that's a lot of

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Speaker 2: stuff going on here. Yeah, but Mike, this is this

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Speaker 2: is the opportunity to present it to to to do

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Speaker 2: your thing. If you're Kevin Durant, and this is I

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Speaker 2: don't mind Kevin. I like how Kevin Durant engages. I

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00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: like how he does have conversations, but it's never really

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Speaker 2: a give and take. It's he's telling you how it

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Speaker 2: really is. Now, granted he's defending himself a lot of teams,

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Speaker 2: but it's just the fact of.

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Speaker 1: The timing of this.

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Speaker 2: In advance of today, we knew it was going to

862
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Speaker 2: be tight because of the draft on Wednesday. No. One

863
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: of the draft is on Thursday, and now the NBA

864
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: says we're going to do a two night deal, so

865
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 2: you start a day earlier. The draft in the NBA

866
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Finals have always been a tight squeeze because of if

867
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: you have a seven game series and now you got

868
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: the tightest of squeezes, you have to get this trade

869
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: done at some point. But it's the fact, Mike that

870
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 2: it not only came prior to Game seven, it happened

871
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: when he was on stage to get this viral moment

872
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 2: that all of these cell phone cameras have been able

873
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 2: to take and now put up on social media. That

874
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,959
Speaker 2: is the reason why Kevin Durant like gets flack at times.

875
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: It's not that he's, you know, an attention hog, but

876
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: he knows what he's doing. Like he knew what he

877
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: was doing when he left Oklahoma City to go to

878
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: Golden State. He's so in tune to where he is

879
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: and what he is and he kind of plays it

880
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: off of like, hey, it's just ball. You know, I

881
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: did my thing. We had a crap year this year

882
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: that going back and forth with the Marcus Cousins, whether

883
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: there were fights or not, Durant is always in the mix.

884
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: And I just think It's a really bad look for

885
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: him in this scenario to do this. At this point,

886
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: we had a report out of Phoenix somebody was saying

887
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: that the deal was likely to get done on Monday,

888
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,479
Speaker 2: which you could say Monday or Tuesday, but obviously somebody

889
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: had some intel that Monday was likely going to be

890
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: the day because he needed to do it before the

891
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: NBA Draft. But to do it here when he's on stage,

892
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: when it could have happened at any point today or

893
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 2: prior to Game seven, it just kind of rubs.

894
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: Me the wrong way.

895
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's part of what we talk about it as

896
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: a superstar league, and certainly a lot of ink slung

897
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 1: and radio and TV segments about the NBA just for

898
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: that right team versus player. Right Kevin Durant making headlines

899
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: during the year after the trade deadline if he just

900
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to move, not that they expected to win

901
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: or anything, just here's an opportunity to go to and

902
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: maybe play deep into the playoffs. No, I'm not, And

903
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: it was boiled down to he didn't want to move

904
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: in season right, and they sputtered one to nine the

905
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: final ten games. You brought up the DeMarcus Cousin thing.

906
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: We talked about it Jason and I a little bit

907
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: at the weekend. But for those that missed it engaging

908
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: in beef online, DeMarcus Cousin, Hey, one of your teammates

909
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: was by source that there were multiple rounds of fisticuffs

910
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: in the locker room over the course of the year,

911
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: and Durant trying to tamp that down. Believe what you will.

912
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Clearly it was not a team that got along in

913
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: any way, shape or form throughout this season. They end

914
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: up finishing miserably thirty six wins despite the star power.

915
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: And that's I think where you jump off into the

916
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 1: analysis the trade of what are you getting At this point,

917
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: we've got the principles of it all. It's the Jalen Green,

918
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: talented twenty one points, a game guy but doesn't really fit,

919
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,919
Speaker 1: doesn't work in offensive sets, his long chronicled of could

920
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: be but dot dot dot in terms of becoming a

921
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: more concer to start one of the greatest agitators of

922
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: all time, protectors of all time, and in Dylan Brooks,

923
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: we'll talk about protection and needing those for your stars

924
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: A little bit later. The number ten pick in this

925
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: week's draft and then five second round picks. So here's

926
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: here's a bevy of stuff. Houston was one of the

927
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: rumored places, along with Miami and San Antonio, where the

928
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 1: leaders in the clubhouse this whole time. Insert your jokes

929
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: about going from the two point five percent flat state

930
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: income tax to none with the three that that he

931
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: was looking at. You know, Penny saved dollar earned, right,

932
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: But well, let's say, is he a difference maker at

933
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: this point because he doesn't want to be a leader?

934
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 4: Right?

935
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: He's And then you've got a Houston squad that played

936
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: pretty well this year, they had they just re up

937
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 1: to a long term deal. Is a guy to push

938
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: them forward in a crowded West?

939
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: No, But what he does do is he helps you

940
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: beat the Warriors. And when I say that, I say

941
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: that in the sen So not Golden State being who

942
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: Golden State is, because Golden State's probably gonna look different

943
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 2: next year. It's the fact that you need a guy

944
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: when you're a two seed to beat that seventh seed,

945
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: or you need a guy like you know, the Cavaliers

946
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: are in a situation where they're the one seed and

947
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: they get ousted by the by the Pacers. You have

948
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell, they were they were injured throughout the year. Okay,

949
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: maybe Donovan or throughout the series they were. They were

950
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: really banged up. But you need to get over that hump.

951
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 2: You need to get over that. The Bucks had to

952
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: do it right. The Bucks had to get over that

953
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: hump before they won an NBA title. They had the

954
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: year that they wanted. They had to beat Miami like

955
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 2: it was even though they were better.

956
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Like, you have to do that.

957
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: So what I say by when they have to beat

958
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: the Warriors, they just they can't be losing the seven

959
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 2: seeds or they can't be losing the teams that maybe

960
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: aren't going to finish in the top three in the

961
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 2: conference but are going to be there in the playoff

962
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: hunt because of who they are. That's what he does

963
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: for that team. It's a perfect package for everything that

964
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: you laid out because it gives Phoenix, the young guy,

965
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: gives them another vet, they get a lottery pick, and

966
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: then they get a bunch of flexibility with all those

967
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: fifth round picks. But again, the pikest ted overall right,

968
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: Like when the Spurs were involved, Number two is never

969
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: discussed at all because of Kevin Durant's age, and then

970
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: you're likely going to be paying him a substantial amount

971
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: of money as he wants a new contract. But it's

972
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: the perfect package for me and probably the perfect fit

973
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: because I do think that this helps Houston. So even

974
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: though I think the whole deal is contrived in him

975
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: having it announced while he's on stage, and I just

976
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: I think it's actually a really good fit for them,

977
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 2: And he doesn't have to be the leader leader, because

978
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: I still think that that's Udoka and if it's not,

979
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: maybe Fred van Vlietz, that guy, you know. I mean,

980
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons why he was brought in,

981
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 2: So I don't even think that he needs to necessarily

982
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: take that role with it. I just think it helps

983
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: them beat a team like the Golden State Warriors or

984
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 2: All Akers team or whoever you may end up facing

985
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: a few advance later on them having.

986
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: That veteran presence and a guy that can hit shots

987
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: and has proven to hit big shots in the moments

988
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: that the stage isn't going to be big enough.

989
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't are too big. I should say, you

990
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 2: don't give away Aman Thompsons never thought to be part

991
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: of the package deal. You keep your core there. I mean, yeah,

992
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the perfect deal for Houston.

993
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets making moves.

994
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, we go back to the regular season and something

995
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: we've talked about a little bit with the finals in

996
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: terms of how you finish, they were the number two

997
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: seed with the strong finish, good core veteran presence there.

998
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: You mentioned Van Vleich. Sengoon doesn't have to go anywhere

999
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: because his name needs come up in a number of

1000
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: would be trade scenarios. And look, there's a lot to

1001
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: go on before the draft tips off, and I think

1002
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 1: to some degree where we're at in the NBA, this

1003
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: might actually be for the best because all the negative

1004
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: conversation around the finals and what this season was, and

1005
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: beyond the one guy in the draft, it's Cooper Flag

1006
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: and you got guys that won't even take workouts for sure,

1007
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: the second third four team. So so you got that right,

1008
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: You got that giant gap there, So why not have

1009
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: a star delt in a big spot here? It helps

1010
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: further conversation. How about this as well?

1011
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Now it becomes a thorn on the side of or

1012
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: has the opportunity to be a thorn on the side

1013
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma City again. So now because you're going to

1014
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: be rivals. Phoenix was not a rival this patch year

1015
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 2: of Oklahoma City. It was separated pretty significantly. Now you

1016
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: go to that contender, you go back and you're going

1017
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 2: to be challenging Oklahoma City for the West. I think

1018
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: that that's intriguing. I like this landing spot Mike more

1019
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: than the other two of the Heat. Even if you

1020
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: went to the Heat. The Eastern Conference just needs they

1021
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: need some more star power. They really do. They need

1022
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 2: the conference needs this youthful injection or the star power

1023
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 2: injection because right now it's a bit of a grind,

1024
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: and you can name names and then you're going to

1025
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: realize on how much of a grind it is. But

1026
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: I don't think Durant would have changed that with the Heat.

1027
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: It's an aging Durant. If it was eight years ago,

1028
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: different story, But it's an aging Durant now. And then

1029
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 2: with the Spurs, it just doesn't fit because of how

1030
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 2: young they are. And when you make the deal for

1031
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,959
Speaker 2: Diera and Fox to bring in, now, all of a sudden,

1032
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: you gotta fit Durant in. They haven't had a lot

1033
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: of time with Wembinyama because of his health. I think

1034
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: it would have been more of a negative and more

1035
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 2: of a work, especially for a first year at coachin

1036
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 2: San Antonio. So I think Houston was the right fit

1037
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 2: for these three. And the package again they gave up

1038
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: is you're no trading cards like they got the I

1039
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 2: think they got the better end of the deal. Maybe

1040
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 2: maybe Jalen Green ends up being that cards that it's

1041
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: worth a thousand down the line, but this, this trade

1042
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 2: at least fits.

1043
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: I like that we bring it back to the fanatics

1044
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: fest and and the base of what's going on there.

1045
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: But for for Durant, you know you bring up the

1046
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: Miami Heat, Well, we look at where the Eastern Conference

1047
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: is right and do the deep dive of contenders because

1048
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of veterans that are hurt right

1049
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: your bucks. No Damian Lillard. We've talked about it in

1050
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: prior episodes, but circle it back here Boston. There's no

1051
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum. There was already questions of what that roster

1052
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: was going to look like based on where they're at

1053
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: in terms of their spending and what they would need

1054
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: to shed to move forward. Anyway, Cleveland great collection for

1055
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: this year is that do they replicate that for another year?

1056
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: But they're going to be there. Okay, fine, but the

1057
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: rest of the conference, Knicks are going to go through

1058
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: some changes. They're still looking for a head coach at

1059
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: this point, right, so go throughout the process. So for

1060
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: the Heat, there might have been an opportunity to inject

1061
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: them back. Now that may them championship level, No, no,

1062
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: but they'd be interesting and they can compete. But that's

1063
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: the question, right, how much does it raise the bar

1064
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: for Houston when you're at that precipice when you look

1065
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: at that regular season mark that a guy thirty seven

1066
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: years old, Obviously you have to be judicious with his minutes,

1067
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: past injury history. He came up in terms of the

1068
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: calf strain with Halliburton and his past before that to

1069
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: push them over the top. Because, as we've discussed at

1070
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: nauseum on this program and in other iterations, Dan the

1071
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: thunder knot while as good and as well as they

1072
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: played sixty eight regular season wins, you've had some warts

1073
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: exposed here in terms of they're played at the back

1074
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 1: end of the playoffs.

1075
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 2: And even when we were on was it last week

1076
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: when the Desmond Bain deal goes down, that that right,

1077
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: the Magic felt that they could give up that much

1078
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: to try to move up from the seventh spot in

1079
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: the East, like acquiring Desmond Bain. I don't think that

1080
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: was on anybody's radar, but I feel that they feel

1081
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: that the East is for the taking, and even that

1082
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: level of deal could have a big effect for Orlando.

1083
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 2: There's also something else that's in play that I think

1084
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 2: that has now been answered. I don't think Giannis is

1085
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: going anywhere. We thought that Giannis was going to be

1086
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: the first Domino, but for the last month or two

1087
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 2: since the Bucks have been suppose it was April, so

1088
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 2: it's two the Bucks were eliminated. There hasn't been a

1089
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: trade offer that has been drawn up by an insider

1090
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: or a blogger or a podcast er that said that'll

1091
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: get it done for Milwaukee.

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00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: And I don't know if.

1093
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Jiannis really truly did want to leave, but there's been

1094
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 2: no action. There's been no word on that. And Mike, again,

1095
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 2: we're three days out from the start of the draft,

1096
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: so to not have any traction whatsoever to have the

1097
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: Durant deal go down first, when I think in this offseason,

1098
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: we thought it was going to be the one that

1099
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 2: would maybe follow the Giannis if you didn't get Giannis.

1100
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 2: Then you go after Durant if you're a huge stand

1101
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: or you're san Antonio or whoever. I think we have

1102
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: our answer on what Giannis is gonna do, and then

1103
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: what the Bucks are going to do, and that's he's

1104
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 2: gonna stay in Milwaukee.

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned all these stars wandering around fanatics fast. We

1106
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: joked off air, you and I about the Brady Eli

1107
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: Manning WWE nonsense that they were doing and everything. I

1108
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: think it would be a really great move if Yannis

1109
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: just walked into that convention center and started walking around,

1110
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: just to put the fear of God. Why is Giannis here?

1111
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 2: Put him on the stage. Maybe they'll an ounce of

1112
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: he's traded. What a coincidence? Wow, what a shocker, unbelievable.

1113
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: What are the odds, Mike, that this has leaked to

1114
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: an insider? What are the odds that this is happening?

1115
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I've got egg on my face?

1116
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: Wow?

1117
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 6: Oh geez, what.

1118
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: A viral moment. So you don't like you don't like

1119
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: viral moments? Oh?

1120
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: Just just how how crazy that was with Brady and

1121
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 2: Eli Manning. Wow, how spontaneous, geez.

1122
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: But it is one of the worst cells we've ever

1123
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: seen by the way. Oh my goodness, the guy look

1124
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: like they wanted any physical engagement, just like when they

1125
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: used to get skittish with guys at their feet. He's

1126
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: Dan Byer on Mike Krmen. As you can tell a

1127
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: lot going on here. On a beautiful Sunday morning, Kevin

1128
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: Durant headed down to the planet Houston. We just celebrated

1129
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: the anniversary of the release of Superman two, and that's

1130
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: how General Zod called it Houston. So that's what we

1131
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: do here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday continues.

1132
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks, one of the principles in this deal, enforcer, agitator,

1133
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: superstar in the WNBA has found hers Will there be

1134
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: more in her offing. We'll talk about that next year

1135
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: on Fox. Welcome Acka in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday,

1136
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 1: My Karma, Dan Byer with you the big news of

1137
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the day. Kevin Durant headed to Houston. Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,

1138
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: the number in Wednesday's draft and five second round picks.

1139
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: That's the bounty Houston gets to keep the remainder of

1140
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: their core. Not unreminiscent or not too different from what

1141
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: we saw when San Antonio acquired dearon Fox. All right,

1142
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: he shows up, here's a bunch of stuff going out,

1143
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: but all the actual core that you would want gets

1144
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: to stay.

1145
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 2: Yes, And there was never gonna happen. There was gonna

1146
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 2: be no Shinghouon, there was gonna be no Thompson delt.

1147
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 2: That was never the case. And what I find funny

1148
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: Mike is just the reaction that we see on social media,

1149
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: because this is NBA Twitter at its best. Anybody who's

1150
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: NBA Twitter hates this deal for the Suns absolutely hates it.

1151
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: They don't like Jalen Green, they don't think Dylan Brooks

1152
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 2: is a value, and they get the tenth pick in

1153
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: the draft. I think, if anything, it adds more flexibility

1154
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: for Phoenix and Phoenix whether they're good or bad. Mike

1155
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: seems to come up as a destination for players to

1156
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 2: want to play, if anything, for the location and the weather, whatever,

1157
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 2: whatever the reason may be. Maybe not all the time,

1158
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 2: but some of the time. But what I find funny

1159
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: is NBA Twitter hates it. Yet ESPN is like dynamic

1160
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: duo in Phoenix, a new one. Jalen Green and Devin

1161
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 2: Booker like buckle up like dynamic duo for what And

1162
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: I think that's the frustration of NBA Twitter is could

1163
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: the Sons have gotten more? I don't think that they

1164
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: could have. What young piece does the Miami Heat have

1165
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 2: that would be better than maybe Jalen Green working out

1166
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: right well.

1167
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: But the other part that you have to it, Dan

1168
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: is I mean, we've been around the block with this

1169
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: sporting universe in the world at large, right any of

1170
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: you out there, maybe shopping for a home, starter home,

1171
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: maybe you're adding another child, looking for a bigger place.

1172
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: What are you looking for? Distress properties? Somebody lost a job,

1173
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: someone had a loss. You don't root for it, but

1174
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: it's part of the economics of it all. Kevin Durant

1175
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: is a distress property. At this point for the Phoenix Suns,

1176
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 1: they knew they were not moving forward together. So if

1177
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: you're circling in the marketplace, you're not coming in with

1178
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: the top offense. How desperate are you? How much can

1179
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: we move? It was like, all right, we've got all

1180
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: these parts, and Jalen Green's a guy, he's got three

1181
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: years on his deal, he's got two more years before

1182
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: the player option, and then we look at free agency

1183
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: thereafter twenty one A game score guy who's had a

1184
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: nice run hasn't translated to the player consistently that they

1185
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: expected him to be a guy that in the fourth

1186
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: quarter would become a go to guy, which is why

1187
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 1: he's expendable, right, which is why he's in the marketplace

1188
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: a little higher contract than maybe they want to carry

1189
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: at this time for what he brings them. So he

1190
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: goes to Phoenix and maybe they can coax the next

1191
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: out of them. But that's what you're getting, right. You're

1192
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: not getting the established player that you're not getting the

1193
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: guy on there as you separate the haves have now

1194
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: of your roster. These are the non negotiables. Here are

1195
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: guys that with the right fit, with the right package,

1196
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: we're willing to send out. Oh and draft picks, forget it.

1197
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: We're trying to win now, which is sure how I

1198
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: would always want to operate here. You want a giant

1199
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: roll of draft picks, selections, have at it. But for

1200
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: Phoenix they reset. Whether it wins them anything, you don't know, right,

1201
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: because now we're talking about draft picks. You got to

1202
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: get it right. You got to have continuity in your

1203
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: front office, your coaching staff, and how many teams actually

1204
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: allow you to do that process.

1205
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: It's I think it's the most that anybody could have

1206
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 2: gotten in return for Kevin Durant in a game that

1207
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: I debuted in the spring on Fox Sports Radio. We

1208
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: haven't played it yet, Mike, but it's called in the Neighborhood. Okay, okay,

1209
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 2: And I want Chris Perfetts, in, Shae in, Isaac lohen

1210
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: Kron to play along with this. I don't think Chris

1211
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: is listening because he's talking right now. Hey, Shay, can

1212
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: you tell Chris Purfett that we're I'm talking to him

1213
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: right now. So I want you guys to guess. Okay,

1214
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: I want you guys to guess how old Kevin Durantis

1215
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 2: within one year? How old do you think Kevin Durantis?

1216
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Thirty seven and change?

1217
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: Okay, how old do you think Kevin Durantis. I'm gonna

1218
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: go thirty six? Okay, Shay, you could same or different,

1219
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 2: doesn't matter whatever you think. Thirty eight Okay, thirty eight,

1220
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 2: Isaac thirty six Okay, he's thirty six going on thirty seven.

1221
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 2: So you all were pretty much in the neighborhood like

1222
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 2: within a year of where he is. What are you

1223
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: gonna get for a guy who's thirty seven years old

1224
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 2: when the season starts. Okay, he's not thirty two, like

1225
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 2: people are even saying with Giannis, who's had some injury

1226
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: history as of late, like, well, Giannis is now thirty.

1227
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of years in the league

1228
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 2: on that Kevin Durant's been when you're at Texas before

1229
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: coming into the league. Heck, again, he was in a

1230
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 2: super Sonic uniform. So it's not exactly fresh legs either.

1231
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: In talking about this, well, but add all the playoff games.

1232
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, we always do this conveniently, you know what

1233
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 1: we want to do it with Lebron James either plus

1234
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: or minus. Yes, right of selling what the next season

1235
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: might be. It's like, well, battle test, look at all

1236
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: the extra years he put on his legs here, so

1237
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: it becomes the badge of honor. Kevin Durant has had

1238
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: a lot of big runs as well.

1239
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: Correct, And if you're the Houston Rockets, or if you

1240
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 2: were the Heat or the Spurs and all of this,

1241
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: you're signing him to a contract extension knowing that he's

1242
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: not going to be worth what you're paying him in

1243
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 2: the latter years of whatever that deal is, because you

1244
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: are paying him for next year. Like that's it, Like

1245
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 2: that's what you're you're paying for, Like it's he's not

1246
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: going to be doing this in three years what he's doing.

1247
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I just I don't think he's not going

1248
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: to be averaging twenty seven points per game. There's going

1249
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 2: to be a fall off between now and at some

1250
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: point in the next three years. So when you are

1251
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: overpaying him, then at the latter part of this contract,

1252
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: which is part of this deal, he wants a new contract.

1253
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: He wants a contract extension, as he has fifty four

1254
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 2: point seven million dollars left on this current deal. So

1255
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,439
Speaker 2: if you're making the trade, you also have to say, well, yeah,

1256
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: we're giving up this much and we're bringing him in,

1257
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: but there's gonna be a point where this isn't a

1258
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: good deal for us when he's on our roster. So

1259
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: that's also why you can't give away a boltload of talent.

1260
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 2: So I get why people don't think that the Suns

1261
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: are getting anything return. I just think that the Sun's

1262
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 2: got the best deal that they could possibly get.

1263
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: Get into the marketplace ahead of the draft make a

1264
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: splash again. We talk about the timing of it, and

1265
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: a lot of negativity around NBA coverage, something Adam silver

1266
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: Is lamented a bit curious to see his feelings on this,

1267
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: how much he was happy to see a fax come

1268
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 1: floating through the league offices or the DOCU sign for

1269
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: the league approval versus you know what, it's game seven day.

1270
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: We don't need this any positivity. I think the NBA

1271
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: will take, particularly this event that he was at Fanatics

1272
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: fast being right in the belly of the beast in

1273
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: New York City. He's Dan Barra on Mike Carment. We'll

1274
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: get to the enforcer part of things and what it

1275
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: may be worth to you again talking social media clout

1276
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: in history, But first let's start it over to our guy,

1277
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 1: Isaac Loewenkron get an update on what else beyond Kevin

1278
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: Durant as well as the particulars of that deal got on, you.

1279
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 5: Would think, guys, and on the morning, in the afternoon

1280
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 5: of Game seven of the NBA Finals, you would think

1281
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 5: all the attention would rightly so be on the Oklahoma

1282
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 5: City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers.

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01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 4: Well, enter former Thunder, former Warrior, former.

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: Nets and now former son Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 5: Because ESPN reported earlier this morning that the Suns, trading

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01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 5: Durant to the Houston Rockets for Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks,

1287
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 5: the number ten pick in the draft, in five second

1288
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 5: round picks, and in the most Kevin Durant fashion ever,

1289
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 5: he allegedly found out about the trade while he was

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01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 5: on stage during a panel at Fanatics Fest, shocking. Here's

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01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 5: the audio, courtesy of someone named Jonathan Macary.

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01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 4: You're gonna hear Kevin.

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01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: The audio is not that great, but you're gonna hear

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01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 5: him say we're gonna see, man, We're going to see

1295
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 5: in response to the trade. But the best part is

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01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 5: the way all the fans watching the panel informed him

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01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 5: of the trade.

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01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 4: Listen, Oh wow, jeez, how did Taylor Rooks know that?

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: What was amazing was, yeah, she did not even have

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01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 4: her phone on her at the top.

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01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I'm just a note card in

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: one hand and the microphone and the other.

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01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, just some of the things in journalism. But anyway, yeah,

1304
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 5: he said, we will see, we will see what happens.

1305
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 5: And what's happening in Major League Baseball right now? The

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01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 5: Yankees a two to one lead, excuse me, the Orioles

1307
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 5: a two to one lead, over the Yankees going to

1308
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 5: the bottom of the seventh. Tigers and Rays tied one

1309
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 5: to one in the bottom of the sixth, and again

1310
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant on his way from the Phoenix Suns to

1311
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 5: the Houston Rockets.

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: Guys, thanks so much at Isaac Low and ground where

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: you find him in the Twitter verse. Thanks to the

1314
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 1: squad making a sound so pretty today bringing the audio

1315
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: from Fanatics Fest the shocker of Kevin Durant going to

1316
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. Knew he was getting dealt just a

1317
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: matter of timing down in distance, and here we get

1318
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: it on the eve of the game.

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01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: All of those people didn't realize the pawns that they

1320
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 2: were in this scheme that all of a sudden, everybody's

1321
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: yelling you got traded, you got traded. Imagine imagine that.

1322
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 2: Imagine just people yelling something and then the host just

1323
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 2: saying what they said without vetting it, Mike, like that

1324
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 2: would be amazing. Yet Taylor Rooks was able to find

1325
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: out via everybody yelling at her that Katie got trade

1326
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: and he was going to the Houston Rockets.

1327
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: So there we had Dylan Brooks part of the deal

1328
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:05,920
Speaker 1: going back.

1329
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: What an organic moment, But it's positive, but.

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01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 1: It's a positive story for the NBA. They needed, they

1331
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: needed some positivity.

1332
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: Dan, this is the Yeah, Game seven wasn't gonna do

1333
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 2: it for what It wasn't moving the needle enough for

1334
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 2: going to move the needle enough.

1335
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the game itself coming up in a

1336
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: couple of minutes as we we finished off. But Dylan

1337
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: Brooks agitator, enforcer at times, uh, he's rivaled now in

1338
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: the w NBA. Sophie Cunningham has become that person for

1339
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark. You got a boost of five hundred thousand

1340
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: TikTok followers because people realized after the hard fall of

1341
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: last week not only hey, she's gonna protect Caitlin, so

1342
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: I'll sign up for that, but also supermodel looks and

1343
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: her own ig account that was suddenly it's the wait

1344
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: a minute, hold on, sure, who's this girl?

1345
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: It was about time that somebody stood u for And

1346
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 2: she even said as much in her comments yesterday, like yeah,

1347
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 2: this has going on now, and she was making more

1348
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: of a comment about the officiating in the WNBA. But

1349
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 2: I also does think it reflects upon the opposing teams

1350
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 2: and those that have tried to tried to do stuff

1351
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: and I don't mind any of that. Like, I nothing,

1352
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: nothing that happened in that game with the Connecticut son

1353
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: did I think was was out of bounds except Elijah

1354
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: Boston not coming to Caitlin Clark's defense again, And like

1355
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, how many times you have to

1356
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 2: see it? Can't you can't you get in someone's face.

1357
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: Finally someone stood up and you had the frakas that

1358
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: you had at the end of a game where it

1359
01:10:41,880 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: was what seventeen points with forty seven seconds left. Ys,

1360
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,840
Speaker 2: somebody did something about it. And I think now I'm

1361
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: curious to see if this continues, like if other teams

1362
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 2: will continue to try to take their shots, which I

1363
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: think will be significantly less after what happened. But also now,

1364
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 2: how do the other Fever players respond if something like

1365
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 2: this happened.

1366
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Clark's going to continue to get into it.

1367
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: This goes all the way back to her time at Iowa.

1368
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: This is nothing new. So you know, folks that jump

1369
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: the into the conversation this week, it's like, no, this

1370
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 1: is she chirps, she's physical, she gets in people's faces.

1371
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 1: We go back to the exchanges with Angel Reese during

1372
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: their battles IOWA and LSU and going on down the

1373
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: line that we've seen this from her for a couple

1374
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: of years, but there's always that expectation. This star needs

1375
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 1: the agitator slash goon roll.

1376
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 3: Right.

1377
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 1: If you've got a big goal scorer in hockey, you've

1378
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 1: got a guy that's looking out for your star. For

1379
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, she causes probably as many issues as she

1380
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: gets from the other side. But now you need your

1381
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 1: teammates to rise up because otherwise you're going to keep

1382
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: the hard files. Like the history with Sheldon goes back,

1383
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean twelve meetings that they had never want one

1384
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: by the way, but you know it's a rake across

1385
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: the eyes. That was not a wolverine quality. This is

1386
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: my defensive No, it wasn't inadvertent shot there. But you

1387
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: talk about the physicality of where the game is, Yeah,

1388
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit chippy, but you need someone

1389
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 1: to step up. Enter Cunningham and that fall at the end,

1390
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 1: two hands over the top. I mean Sheldon went, she

1391
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: was going to she was gonna elbow her, you know,

1392
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: up around the chops her own self.

1393
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure the WNBA will put the kebash on it.

1394
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: But the next time they play, somebody better do something

1395
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: to Maybury for her head, because nobody really did anything

1396
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: to her, right, That's that's like the next Domino. So, hey,

1397
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: another rival for the fever. If the Sky art winning games,

1398
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: now you can have the Connecticut Sun be that rival.

1399
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: Fever and aces a little bit later on today and

1400
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: it's like we were watching the Dodgers and Padres tell

1401
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: me manjor League baseball. While they might be worried that

1402
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: one comes up around show his upper back and neck again.

1403
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: But by the same token, what are we talking about baseball?

1404
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: Yep?

1405
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 1: In June. Sure, so they won't meet again until August,

1406
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: so you've got weeks for that to just date. In

1407
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: the interim, we get the accelerated WNBA schedule and the

1408
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: Fever back on the court. Today, he's Dan Byer a

1409
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: Mike Carman coming up next we get back into game seven. Yeah,

1410
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,839
Speaker 1: there is a Game seven of your NBA Finals. Okay,

1411
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: see Indiana. How does it play out? What do we expect?

1412
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: We'll tell you next here on Fox Welcome back in

1413
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 1: finishing up our tour here Fox Sports Radio, Mike Carmen,

1414
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: dan Byer with you. Hey, be sure to check out

1415
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,920
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1416
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01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,879
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1420
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: Radio videos on YouTube. No doubt one going up from

1421
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: this show as we have the big breaking news earlier

1422
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,480
Speaker 1: this morning, brought to us by our guy Isaac Lowenkron

1423
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: from the floor of Fanatics Fest, that Kevin Durant. See

1424
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: how that was a lot of pieces the from the

1425
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: floor of Fanatics Fest. Kevin Durant will become a member

1426
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: of the Houston Rockets, a trade that we knew he

1427
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 1: was not going to be in a Sun's uniform was

1428
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: just a matter of the execution of it.

1429
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: So at some point by Wednesday he was going to

1430
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: be traded. That was going to be the case again.

1431
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: There's a report earlier today out of Phoenix saying it

1432
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: was likely to be Monday, but Kevin Durant in the

1433
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: boardroom his group decided to break it. I'm sure the

1434
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets had no problem with it. I'm sure Adam

1435
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: Silver has a big problem with it. I don't think

1436
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: fanatics has a big problem with it. I think they

1437
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. But it's interesting on whose mouth you're

1438
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: feeding as you give out this information. Again, the whole

1439
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant fighting out on stage thing was completely contrived

1440
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: and done by Kevin Durant and his people at the

1441
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 2: benefit of fanatics, at the expense of the NBA. And

1442
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 2: that tells you a little bit on what you need

1443
01:14:57,360 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: to know and maybe why people get a little sick

1444
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: of the NBA because of stuff that may be like that.

1445
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: Well, star power, star turns and secondary plots. Right, there's

1446
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: not the Hey, this is what we're supposed to be

1447
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 1: pushing towards. Right, We're going to crown a champion here.

1448
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 1: But we know all this is swirling. You can weigh

1449
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: on an announcement. I know there's a big, big event

1450
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: and fanatics fast. It's in year two, got monstrous returns

1451
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: this year, star Power Entertainment and sports icons all showing

1452
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: up to sell their wares, sign autograph, take pictures, go

1453
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: into bad comedy skits and whatever else. And then on

1454
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: Sunday morning we get this. So now it becomes a

1455
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: day replete with Kevin Durant and Durant trade reaction. What

1456
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: does this do for the Suns, What does it do

1457
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: for the Rockets? What's the next domino of the fall?

1458
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: Whereas at some point we still need to talk about Halliburton,

1459
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: his calf and whether the Pacers have enough to vanquish

1460
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: the thunder at home.

1461
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: It will go, It will Tomorrow's talk on Game seven

1462
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: will evaporate so quickly, and we will then be on

1463
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 2: by Onnesday, we're going to be on the Cooper flag anyway. Sure,

1464
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 2: that's where to that point, the lifespan of this Game

1465
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 2: seven is going to be the shortest. It actually may

1466
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 2: be negative because of the Kevin Durant news.

1467
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: But you always have such a compressed schedule, which I've

1468
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: never understood for the NBA in general. Right where we

1469
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 1: set the finals dates and then you have the draft.

1470
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 1: I know you're thinking momentum to a degree, but you

1471
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 1: still have another month before the NFL gets back in earnest.

1472
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: You have several weeks before the MLB All Star Break.

1473
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 1: I know you want to start the next offseason. Trade

1474
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: forty eight seventy two hours.

1475
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't make sense. Like your best case scenario is that

1476
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: you get a sweep, so then there's no momentum in

1477
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 2: the finals and you get some breathing room.

1478
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: They do it.

1479
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's because their new league year starts in

1480
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 2: early July, so that's where everything turns over. So everything's

1481
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: got to be you know, I guess done by that point, Mike,

1482
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 2: I I. You know, you have your free agency. It's

1483
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: it's interesting in terms of the draft comes first and

1484
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: then it's free agency the NFL. It's the other way around.

1485
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, I just this is this hijacks. Remember when

1486
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal announced that a Rod was opting out of

1487
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 2: his contract during the World Series in Colorado. That was

1488
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,720
Speaker 2: a sweep, but people were up in arms that a

1489
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 2: Rod and Scott Boris would hijack the World Series with

1490
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 2: their announcement. And that's again, David Stern would never have

1491
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: let this happen. There would something would be happening to

1492
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant or the Houston Rockets if this happened, if

1493
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: David Stern was still alive and commissioner of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It's on Adam Silver's watch and somehow this let go

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Speaker 2: again boom for fanatics, not a boom for the NBA.

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Speaker 1: So the first time that Durant goes to play in Okay.

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Speaker 1: See they run the mister unreliable backpage.

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Speaker 2: Now you talk about rivalries like this is now one

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Speaker 2: again for another reason.

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Speaker 1: Injecting back into a rivalry number two seed where the

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Speaker 1: Houston Rockets will see how this continues to build as

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Speaker 1: we get towards Draft Day. On Wednesday, Thunder a seven

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Speaker 1: point favor at home shake gilgis Alexander coming off a

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Speaker 1: terrible game six as a team, twenty two or twenty

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Speaker 1: three turnovers depending on which scorecards you're reading. Too many

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Speaker 1: of them unforced lazy cross court passes that got picked

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Speaker 1: and went the other way. Thirty two points off turnovers

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Speaker 1: for the Pacers last time out. Halliburton played really well

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Speaker 1: and inspired basketball for the twenty three minutes he was needed.

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Speaker 1: What are you expecting? It could go one of two ways?

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Speaker 1: And that's not to sit on the fence. And I'll

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Speaker 1: let you have the last word in all of this.

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Speaker 1: If the Pacers are going to win, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: like Game one. But I just don't think that it happens.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's Oklahoma City. I actually like Oklahoma City. Tonight,

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Speaker 1: I'm convincing fashion. I think that they win by double digits.

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Speaker 1: The Pacers were a great story and a great run,

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Speaker 1: but I just don't think it happens tonight. And okay,

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Speaker 1: see road players on you know, bench players trying to

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Speaker 1: come up big. I'm looking for the thunder secondary players,

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Speaker 1: and Williams has to get me some more balance. Right

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Speaker 1: he was forty point score than he's minus forty. I

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Speaker 1: gotta get something that he and lou Dort for their

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Speaker 1: defensive acumen, that's got to count for something in a game.

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Speaker 2: So I hope Halliburton is as close to one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent as it can be. I just I hope that

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Speaker 2: he is not limited from what he did in Game six.

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Speaker 2: Had a couple of days rest, but I hope he's

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Speaker 2: almost full.

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Speaker 1: Gots well well to turn in later on coming up next,

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio continues, He's daying on Mike. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: giving us a few minutes of your time.