1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with this. Pat. We've come a 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: long way since after, haven't we. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: You and I have been doing this a long time. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: I feel like I kind of worked for you once 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: in a while, you know what. I always appreciate that 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: you ask us to come on, and it means something 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: to me after working here for ten years, to have 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: an opinion that you're interested in. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: Jimmy, what do you think about studio here? I love 10 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 3: Florna Park. Yeah, well, green and white Michigan state colors. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I've fit in pretty good. 12 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, always a Michigan guy, that's right, 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: just like Robert Salad. Now, okay, so how many camps 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: have you guys been too? 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: So far? Jimmy's that one more than me. He went 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: to Chicago. I didn't go. So I think we're at seven. 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: We have three in a row coming up, and then 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: we're going to take it. Jim's got to go do 19 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Chicago games. We get a two day break 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: and then we head to Atlanta, Houston, Denver. 21 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: How many camps and all to changes? 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we hit about sixteen. 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: There is a hurricane going on down there, yeah, up 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: the coast. 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens with Tampa that could be a 26 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: little hectic there. 27 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: So what are your favorite storylines? Some of your favorite 28 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: storylines here at basically the start of the summer even 29 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: though training camp. I was telling our staff today that 30 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: two plus weeks training camp is going to be over. 31 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's the problem that we face now when you 32 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: ask how many do we go to? You can't get 33 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: to all of them. And as soon as the preseason 34 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: games start. For our schedule, the day before the preseason game, 35 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: you're either flying or not doing anything. Then there's a 36 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 2: game and no one's playing that we're looking at, and 37 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: then the day after they're watching the film. So it's 38 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: really tough on keeping on a schedule of watching guys practice. 39 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: The best is if we can get a teams have 40 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: a scrimmage going on with another team, right, that's really terrific. 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: So half the league is a big year to get half. 42 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 3: Now, well, think for me storylines going league. Obviously, the 43 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: movement of quarterbacks. You know, I think you know when 44 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: you get first round quarterbacks that are shuffled off for 45 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: basically six round picks, you know that's not the case 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: obviously for the Jets. You know, your case is about 47 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: your elder statesman quarterback, and there's a lot of excitement 48 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: and this team is poised to win, so certainly Aaron 49 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: Rodgers is a storyline. And then of course the new 50 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: kickoff rule. It's been it's been a big discussion and 51 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 3: topic every camp stop we've been at, every Special teams 52 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: coach that we've talked to, this is going to be 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: a problem. 54 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: We've seen a lot of different philosophies about it, and 55 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: we shouldn't disclose what we see at each place, but 56 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: I will tell you this, not everybody sees it the 57 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: same way. Interesting, and I think there's going to be 58 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 2: a lot of experiment They're not going to show you 59 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 2: anything the preseason. Everyone knows that, but there's going to 60 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: be a lot of experimenting in the first two weeks 61 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: where there's guys that have strong feelings about doing it 62 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: one way, another team says, we're not even thinking about 63 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: doing that. So it'll be fun to see. Jim thinks 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: it is going to be a lot of touchdowns. I 65 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 2: think it's going to be a lot of good tackles. 66 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: I knew. 67 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: I had an interesting discussion with Brent Boyer, your Special 68 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: Teams coach. I played with him down in Jacksonville. He 69 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: was an excellent special teams player. 70 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: You know. 71 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: He brought up the dirty ball again. Dirty ball for 72 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: the viewers that are out there, I did an interview 73 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: with Mike Westoff, who's the assistant head coach of the 74 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: Denver Broncos. He's obviously a longtime special teams coach. They're 75 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: working on what's called a dirty ball. It's gonna be 76 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: a line drive ball that lands in the landing zone 77 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: which goes from the twenty to the goal line, and 78 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: they want the ball popping around like a popcorn, right. 79 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: They want it just popping up in the air. It's 80 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: gonna be a dirty ball. 81 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: And they want it swimming into the end zone because 82 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: the ball goes on a twenty and. 83 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: It'll be a melee play, is what it's going to be. 84 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: It may be it may make the play more unsafe 85 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: than safe. 86 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 4: Quite frankly. 87 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: For the NFL, one coach timed how long it takes 88 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 2: to pick up a ball it's bouncing around. It's one 89 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: point five seconds, and he timed a lot of them, 90 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: so he arrived at one point five is the average. 91 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: So once that ball gets into the box, now the 92 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: defense can go right, So they're gonna go from the forty, 93 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna be at the thirty seven, thirty six. He's 94 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: bending over to pick up a ball. They're gonna be 95 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: engaged in their blocks, and some guys are gonna be 96 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: coming off their blox. That's their theory as he picks 97 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: the ball up. 98 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: So for a while now throughout the National Football League, 99 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: that's the time to go get a beer kick off? 100 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: Does that change this year? 101 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: I believe it changes. 102 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Super Bowl with no returns. 103 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, boring, right, So yeah, I think you're going to 104 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: see special teams. Coach coaches be creative. You can put 105 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: two guys back there. One, you can have a gadget guy, 106 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: so you can do reverse plays, you can do throwback plays. 107 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: Because they're each team that we've seen it looks like 108 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 3: they're gonna have two returners back there. Yeah, so they'll 109 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: be able to do some sort of trick aspect of it. 110 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: And then of course the lane closures Pat's talked about 111 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: where you try to corner kick it to corner a 112 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 3: guy down. So we can't get a good return because 113 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: if you give a guy a middle return, that's potentially 114 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: a two way go because if those guys on the 115 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: front lines, which becomes more of a hand a hand 116 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: combat play. If they miss those blocks or miss that crease, 117 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 3: there's gonna be huge holes to hit. 118 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, a lot of the explosive returns. Another 119 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: league to sideline correct that was using this. 120 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first off, and I was here, I worked 121 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: with special teams as well. We had if we had 122 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: a return right on and they kicked the ball into 123 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: that deep right corn of the return right was off. 124 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: You went straight up the field because you didn't want 125 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: to cross the field for thirty yards right, And this 126 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: defensive group is gonna be a lot closer. So I 127 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna call them all off and they're 128 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: gonna try to come straight up the field, which we 129 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: saw the other night and they stuffed them all. 130 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: There's a great social clip recently posted of your show 131 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: where a Dolphins fan said that they were gonna be 132 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: all right in the middle. You were talking about the 133 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: Dolphins are going to tremendously miss Christian Wilkins, and the 134 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: clip went viral. I think the fans said, we got Benito. Hey, 135 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: you guys love that. 136 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Huh Oh we did you know? 137 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: Until I looked up his stats, Anito's stats fifteen tackles 138 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 3: and I think one tackle for a lot. 139 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, he would love us to take that down. Yeah, 140 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 2: but we you know, we got Bonito. So you know 141 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: I found out Benito's a truck driver and he raises cattle. 142 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: How about that he doesn't start making more tackles, He'll 143 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: be buying more cows and driving more trucks. 144 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: So let's look at the FC East right now here 145 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: in August, starting with the Bills. Is it team in transition? 146 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 1: Still got Josh Allen. 147 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: I don't think they're in transition. You don't know. I 148 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: think the two receivers are gone. But I've said this 149 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: on many occasions on the show, and I've said it 150 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: on this tour. Every great quarterback in this league that 151 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: last ten to fifteen years has overhauled his receiver group 152 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: three or four times. He's working hard with the young guys. 153 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: We saw Mahomes overhaul his receiver group. Peyton Manning did 154 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: it three times that I could count. Eli Manning did 155 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: it three times, and so that's part of being a quarterback. 156 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: So Jim will tell you you got to get them 157 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: ready when the way that guy throws and what his 158 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: tight ends can do. He'll get time to get the 159 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: receivers fixed. 160 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: See from a Jets perspective, I'm looking at maybe them 161 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball and say, no Poyer, 162 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: who's with the Dolphins now. Michah Hyde will have to 163 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: see what happens with him. But maybe Aaron Rodgers and 164 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: company can get after that secondary. 165 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean they address those issues though. They 166 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: granted he's a young player, and that's that Cole Bishop 167 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: who they drafted from Utah. 168 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: They want him. 169 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 3: He had a nice little pass breakup on a seam 170 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: route when Pat and I were there, you know. And also, 171 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: Taylor Rapp was a starter for the Rams. He was 172 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: a backup for Buffalo last year, so they almost like 173 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 3: what Kansas City did and signing Drew Tranquell. They basically 174 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: got a starter caliber player as a backup. And Drew 175 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: trankwell led their team in tackles in the AFC Championship 176 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: Game and they just resigned him. Taylor Rapp is essentially 177 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: a starter who now is stepping into a starter's role again. 178 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 3: He had to at the end of the year when 179 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: Michael was hurt. And I thought that was a great 180 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: signing by Brandon Bean. That guy does not waste any 181 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: time as signing guys that they need for depth. 182 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: He also played over four hundred players last year, so 183 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was on the bench. 184 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 185 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: I will say this, when you play them, yep, I 186 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 2: do think your quarterback is going to find opportunities to 187 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: get the ball down the field. I'm not so sure 188 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: where von Miller is. They're gonna need him to get 189 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 2: after your quarterback. Russeau has not really, in my mind, 190 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: taking the steps. So there's gonna be opportunities for your 191 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: guy with that quick release to get the ball. But 192 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: the quarterback on the other side fifteen rushing touchdowns second 193 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: in the league to only Moster another guy in your division. 194 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: I know. 195 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: So those two guys, so I would not think that 196 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Buffalo is out of. 197 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 4: It, you know. 198 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. 199 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Somebody called the show and was complaining about Josh Allen's turnovers, 200 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: because Josh Allen does have a lot of turnovers. But 201 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: the issue is when you go look up his full 202 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: set of statistics, he's still three to one touchdown to 203 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: turnover and he's got the most of any quarterback Josh 204 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: Allen because he can overcome them. The problem with Buffalo's 205 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: offense is so much goes through Josh. And I did 206 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: this stat when I did a game two years ago. 207 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 3: They played it Thanksgiving Day. Literally, Buffalo was averaging four 208 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards of offense. Josh Allen was four 209 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 3: hundred of it. Four hundred of their four hundred and 210 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 3: fifty yards goes through him. And that's scoring everything, right, 211 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: So when you play the Buffalo Bills, it's not, oh, 212 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: you got to stop Diggs. No, you you honestly have 213 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 3: to stop him. You have to stop him. 214 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 2: It'll be a battle, But you know what, you're better 215 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: And if Aaron's healthy, we just got done talking to him. 216 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: He's in a great spot mentally. You'll be able to 217 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: compete with those guys. 218 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are you thinking about the matchup with the 219 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: Jets and Dolphins and Miami Again, that offense is so prolific, 220 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: especially early in the season. I think they catched teams 221 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: by surprise, even though you've seen some of that on film. 222 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: And Mike mc Mike McDaniel was a tremendous play caller, 223 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: but defensively significant changes. 224 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to run the ball with those guys 225 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: until further notice. You know, that's a when you're depleted inside. 226 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: And it wasn't just losing Christian, they lost the other 227 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: guy that was next to him. They were two massive tackles. 228 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: So I think if you want to beat them with 229 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: your inside linemen and run the ball up inside more 230 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: than people think, you'll have an opportunity there and from 231 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: that will come play action pass. 232 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: I go heavy and pound them. Yeah with Brisaul, Yeah, 233 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 3: I'm fine with the two big backs that you drafted too. Yeah. 234 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 2: We had both of them during the whole process leading 235 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: up to the draft, one on one in a room, 236 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: just the three of us. And when both guys left, 237 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: I said, people are going to underestimate them as athletes, 238 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: not just big sluggie backs. They're more than that. They 239 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: can pound it in there. But I think there's going 240 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 2: to be opportunities to use them in other ways as 241 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: well receiving the ball. So I do like the two backs, 242 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 2: and in a game like the Miami game, might be 243 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: a good time to give both of them five or 244 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: six carries up inside where that group out. 245 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: What about December, the Jets might be well equipped when 246 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: the weather changes. Not only do you have haul, but 247 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: you added brailn Alan and you added Isaiah Davis equation. 248 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: My feeling about your team in the cold is I 249 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: watched a lot of Packers games. With Rogers, he never 250 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: looked cold. He made it. He made it an advantage 251 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: for him. And the way he talks about how he 252 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: discusses everything with his teammates, he is going to make 253 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: sure they're all convinced that it's it's really a competitive 254 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 2: edge for us. 255 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: And that's all got to come together too. You know, 256 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: with the veteran O lineman that you have, those guys 257 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: got to stay healthy. You got to keep that continuity 258 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: of the offensive line with Tipman and all those guys, 259 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: and that's when the run game and your offense really 260 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: starts clicking. If you look at the teams that have 261 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: gone all the way to the Super Bowl, the ones 262 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: that keep their five offensive linemen intact have the best 263 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 3: bet where their offense is humming, because once you start losing, 264 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: say if Morgan Moses goes down and now you're putting 265 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 3: an OLU and then maybe he's out a couple of weeks, 266 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: and then that's where things start to fracture, where you 267 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: kind of go off the rails offensively, where it's just 268 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: that continuity is not there to do what you need 269 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: to do late in the year. 270 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: Olu is my favorite tackle in the draft. If I 271 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: was going to take a tackle, it would have been him. 272 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: Big time athlete, great feet, young, really talented athletically. But 273 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: I think so far here. You know, it's not my 274 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: job to figure out what you're doing. But he's taking 275 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: almost all his reps on the left all so far, 276 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: and I'd make sure he had the right stuff. I 277 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: know you guys tend to keep eight linemen on game day. 278 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Most teams keep seven, so the pressure is a little 279 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: bit off that he wouldn't have to be able to 280 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 2: be thus swing tackle for both sides. But I I 281 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: did ask your head coach, how do you line up 282 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: without him on the field. You know, to me, I'd 283 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: be finding a spot for that guy, whether it's guard 284 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: or somewhere else because he's that good. I would love 285 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: to see if you go heavy and play him as 286 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: a tight end. 287 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh, you can definitely see that. Robert Salas said, that's 288 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: part of the plan here, is that he's going to 289 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: get some reps at right tackle. They just wanted him 290 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: to focus on left tackle early, but we should be 291 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: seeing that soon here in training camp. 292 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you put him at tight end and have a 293 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 2: power run side. 294 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 295 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: Some coaches just don't want to overload guys we've taught. 296 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: We've had discussions with like Bill Belichick about that, Like say, 297 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 3: if they draft a versatile nickel player, but he sees 298 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: him more as a safety, you know, but he knows 299 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: he can do more, Say like a Devin mccordy. McCarty's 300 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 3: played corner, he's played nickel, he's played safe, both safety spots. 301 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: When Bill knows he's got a player like that, and 302 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure Salah does this too. Sometimes they don't want 303 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 3: to overload a player and teach them too many positions. 304 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: They focus on this one first, and that's probably what 305 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: they're doing with fashion. So start off, get comfortable left tackle. 306 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: Then we'll start the movie over here and get you 307 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: comfortable at right as well. 308 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: Some tackles. You see him coming out of school and 309 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: you're like, well, they really could use a full offseason 310 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: in the strength program. Olo's body looks like he's NFL ready, right. Yes. 311 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked with a bunch of tackles when we 312 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: had rookies. They kind of were signed to me. They 313 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: had to work on Tuesdays. On the players day. If 314 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: we worked on Saturday mornings, most of them didn't have 315 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: a punch. That was one area where they really and 316 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: they and they missed. If they even thought they were 317 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: strong enough, they'd missed the punch. They didn't have to 318 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: set it up and do it. And most of them 319 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 2: disclosed to the rushers too quickly what they were setting for. 320 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: And then the rushers if they were veterans, like this 321 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: guy sets for speed. Every time, I'll be crossing his face, 322 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: you know. So they had to be patient patients and 323 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: a punch for two things. I thought that almost all 324 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: the young ones have to work on. 325 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Jim, what do you make of the Jets offseason upgrades 326 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: at the offensive line? But also how much do these 327 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: guys have to work together as a unit so they 328 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: are on a string. So far early in camp we've 329 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: only seen a day. 330 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's erely because, like you said, Moses just 331 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: came back. And I know you know, obviously Tyron Smith 332 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: from Cowboys, we know he has not lined up and 333 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: played a complete year. I think since twenty seventeen he 334 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: has not played a complete season. So you gotta believe 335 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 3: at some point and another point why they're practice putting 336 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: Olu there is to protect for that. I mean, because 337 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: that is a known fact that he hasn't made it 338 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: through years, So they're just preparing for that inevitability. Now 339 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: is it going to be one game? Is it going 340 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 3: to be two games? 341 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: We'll see. 342 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: I like what they've done with the O line, but 343 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: it's too early to tell right now. I like it 344 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: because they're veterans with Moses and Smith and they'll be 345 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: able to settle in early. But will they be able 346 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 3: to last the duration? Are they going to give them 347 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: the rest days, the things that are necessary for these 348 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: older players and can they Because that's that's going to 349 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: be another thing that Robert sala is going to have 350 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 3: to monitor between Williams the two tackles Rogers, does he 351 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: get rest days? He probably doesn't want him, but I 352 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 3: would want to give him a rest day like what 353 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 3: Tom Brady did late in his career. 354 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: That we've been watching Roger's out here throughout training camp. 355 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: He don't like to come out of drills. Guy loves no, 356 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: it loves it. 357 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: It's like Peyton. Peyton took every rep. If you were 358 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: a backup quarterback at the Colts, you had stay after 359 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: practice to get a thrower to and the good ones. 360 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: And he's a bit of a perfectionist. He was very 361 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: clear about that when we sat with him today, that 362 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: he pays attention to everyone's job. I asked him if 363 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: he's hard on the guys. He didn't really say he was, 364 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: but he knows every mistake that's made. And I am 365 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: sure he's pushing guys to be better all the time, 366 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: and he pushes himself too, So it's fun to see. 367 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: He feels very confident that his health is here, which 368 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: is important. 369 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: You guys have talked to Aaron several times throughout the 370 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: course of his career. Do you notice anything different now 371 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: at this stage? 372 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do, because I said to him today, I said, 373 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: the last time I really sat with you was at 374 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Lake Tahoe for the celebrity golf tournament, like ten years ago, 375 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: and he was a little edgy. I asked him about 376 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: protections and stuff. He didn't want to cover it, and 377 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: I said, what do you just tell me which one 378 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: you like? And he just said he liked five man protections. 379 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: He liked everybody out he could manage it. Yeah, And 380 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: we laughed a little bit about it today. But he 381 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: is very relaxed and having fun. And I hope he's 382 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: got it in his mind if he gets through this 383 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: season healthy, that he's going to play a couple of years. 384 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 385 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 3: I think he's hungry. I think he's focused. I think 386 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: he's relaxed. 387 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: You know, I. 388 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: Expect him to have a great year. 389 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: You think he likes the fact that people are counting 390 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: him out now more so than ever because he's coming 391 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: back from the Achilles. He also plays for the Jets, 392 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: and frankly, the Jets haven't won in two thousand times. 393 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 3: That'd be a mistake. After watching him throw. 394 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: And I'll say this, we've seen two of your division 395 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: opponents so far. They're not in the group of counting 396 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: them out. His name came up when we were asking 397 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: the same questions you asked about the division. They weren't 398 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 2: like they didn't want to hear that Rogers is an 399 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: old man. They recognize what he is. 400 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 4: Everyone brought up four MVPs. 401 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: Everyone. 402 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's no hide in the fact that you've 403 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: got a good quarterback. 404 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: If he plays seventeen, what does that mean for briests All. 405 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 2: Well, Briest Hall led all running backs and receptions last year. 406 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: YEP, forty four. What do you think is gonna seventy 407 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: five or seventy five? 408 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had them all and so I don't know 409 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: it eighty or ninety because remember what I said, he 410 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: likes to release five. That means the running backs a 411 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: free release player. He'll enjoy that. 412 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Priest'll get a lot of that receiver position. Right now, 413 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: Mike Williams is non the pup lists he's targeted in 414 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: week one as far as being full goal. Exavier Gibson, 415 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: who I think could catch a lot of balls in 416 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: this offense right now, he's dealing with a leg injury 417 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: at the start of camp. He's gonna be fine. 418 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: But what do you make well, you got to believe 419 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: the Zard's numbers will probably tick up because he's got 420 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 3: a relationship with him. 421 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: Sounds like he's already got a report with Wilson. I 422 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: mean that seemed like. 423 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: It was as soon as he arrived here, didn't it 424 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 3: At least for me it did me too. 425 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: But you need five them, you know. Hamstrings show up 426 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: all the time. Lots of things happen. So Malachi as 427 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: an example, he needs to become a guy that you 428 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: feel you can play him, you know, and he's working 429 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 2: hard at it. 430 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: How big of a transition is that for him? 431 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 3: Malkai Corley will be his Randall Cobb, his Randall Cobb 432 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: in Green Mas. 433 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 4: That's who Malachi Corley is. How early right away? 434 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Really, I think that he will accelerate the learning process 435 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: for the kid. 436 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: There is a play in Green Bay's offense that Hackett 437 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 3: ran repeatedly that Aaron Rodgers checks to. 438 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay, he he'll. 439 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: Motion Randall Cobb in as a wing right next to 440 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 3: the tight end, and he just goes one yard up 441 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 3: the field to the flat. It's basically it's called a 442 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 3: no look pass, is what it is. Now the outside 443 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 3: receiver now becomes a blocker. Roger, I watched a game 444 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 3: where Aaron Rodgers checked to that play to Randall Cobb 445 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: nine times, nine times, and it's the simplest play you 446 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: could ever check to. 447 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 2: It ends the blitz. Yeah, yeah, there is no blitz 448 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: against that. 449 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: How will teams look at the Jets offense because you're 450 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: going to camps and you said you were at their 451 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: a couple of their opponents inside the division. Because I'm 452 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: watching here out on the field every day, and whenever 453 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: the Jets are coming with the blitz and it could 454 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: be late in the playclock. This guy just takes it down. 455 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: He's patient as ever, and he knows where the weakness 456 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: and the coverage is. 457 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 2: I think the great ones, which is he he is 458 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: one of those. I think you surrender the blitz concept. 459 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: You'll have a couple in there, and you might do 460 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: it early. So he's looking for it, but you're not 461 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: gonna really believe you're going to get him because he gets 462 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: rid of the ball too fast. Does he run like 463 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: he used to? He suggested to us, you know those 464 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: days are over. I looked at his last four years 465 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: in Green Bay versus the four before that, and he 466 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: was averaging I think it was about nine runs a game, 467 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 2: and then then in the final four years he was 468 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 2: down to four or five. So he's smarter with it. 469 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 2: But he wants to throw the ball and he knows 470 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 2: where to go with it. So I think he knows 471 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: who he is and he knows who he shouldn't be anymore. 472 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: It's just like I said, he is like a surgeon. Now, 473 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: you know, like that play that I said that he 474 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 3: checked two nine times. All that is is he's just 475 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: playing at a high level where you take advantage of 476 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: things that they're just giving you the reason why. I 477 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 3: like when I break down that play where Randall Cobb 478 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 3: he'd motion them in green Bay because they would have 479 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 3: a three linebacker look and he'd out leverage the basically 480 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 3: the SAM backer because the SAM and a single high 481 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: look has the flat responsibility. So all he was doing 482 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: is leveraging Randall Cobb that he would out leverage the 483 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: Sam backer because it's a mismatch. And that's all this 484 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 3: guy does. He's like he's playing chess out there. I mean, 485 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: this guy's making moves, you know, all the time, and 486 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: he knows exactly how it's gonna what the outcome is 487 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 3: going to be. He's got the answers to the test. 488 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: How challenging is his cadence system for the new guys 489 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: to learn. 490 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna learn fast because he's not going to 491 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: surrender it to guys who can't handle it, of course, 492 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: and he's gonna he might double down and how many 493 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 2: times he does it in practice so they understand, I 494 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 2: do this all the time, and it's gonna work, and 495 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna make sure you know what you're doing so 496 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: and it's not warning them it's just wrap it out, 497 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: rep it out and they'll get the hang of it. 498 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: I mean he had a lot of different linemen in 499 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: Green Bay. Yeah, and a lot of They had a 500 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: lot of injuries and they had to roll a lot 501 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: of guys through. They all figured it out. I don't 502 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a problem for them, and it 503 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: is a weapon, jib. 504 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you like the way they attack it during practice 505 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: because if the guys have a false start, this is 506 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: new this year this summer, that they get him right 507 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: out of the lineup, they get a replace for a play, 508 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: because that's something there's not going to put up with 509 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: here during the season. 510 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 2: Next time I see him, I'll tell him what New 511 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: England does. Yeah, when they up off like that, they're 512 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: out too, except they have to take a lap, Yeah, 513 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 2: the lap of mercy. 514 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 3: You hope that that accountability factor helps, but they got 515 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 3: to stick to that, you know, come regular season. 516 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: You know, if a guy's screwing up, he's got to 517 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: get out of there. He can't. 518 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: You know, you got to carry it through. You got 519 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: to be consistent with that message. You can't just do 520 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 3: it during training camp. 521 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 2: He'll want a hard count the first play the season, Yeah, 522 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: no doubt, and they better be ready. 523 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Tipman second year. You guys liked him coming out. He 524 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: started last year actually a guard, which is something that 525 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have predicted, but obviously they wanted to get 526 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: him on the field to economy govern here. But he 527 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: is in that pivot spot this year, starting year two. 528 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: We've seen during camp a couple of times some errant snaps, 529 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: some high snaps, and that's something the Jets are working 530 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: on with him. But can you talk about how important 531 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: that relationship is Aaron with the center. 532 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think Aaron's going to help him become 533 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 2: the best he can possibly be. He's not going to 534 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: let him off the hook. Same as the hardcount stuff, 535 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 2: He's going to make sure he's doing it. I saw 536 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: some snaps today that were high. Aaron's a pretty good 537 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: athlete though. I saw him in one hand grab one 538 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 2: that was going over his head and he was set 539 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: the throw in a half a second. So he's going 540 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: to cover up some of the mishaps that could happen. 541 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: But it happens all over the place. Remember the first 542 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: snap of the Denver. 543 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: Peyton Manning game. 544 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Seattle Super Bowl? 545 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you played a position. How important is that relationship? 546 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for him, because Tipman is young, Roger's 547 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 3: going to point out all the protections. He'll point out 548 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: all the mics, all the recalls, all the and if 549 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 3: he does want to pick something up, I think Rogers 550 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 3: will handle all that. And he's, you know, basically telling 551 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: ten other guys what to do and what he needs. 552 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: And there's no shame in that. All I did as 553 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: a quarterback when you come out, if a guy asks 554 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 3: you hate, if they're confused on an assignment, a veteran quarterck, 555 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: you just tell him what to do so that you 556 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 3: have a positive play. And Aaron will get everybody lined 557 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: up and do that. And as Pat mentioned, I call 558 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: it negotiating. You're able if you're a veteran and you're 559 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: that how should I say savvy of a thinker and 560 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: processor of information is Rogers is He's able to negotiate things. 561 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 3: Whether it's a blown mistackle by the left tackle, say 562 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: fashion who's in there, or say a running back who 563 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: misses a blitz pick up, Rogers will negotiate it. That's 564 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 3: just who he is. That's why he's a four time 565 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: NFL veteran or MVP. 566 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 2: I asked your head coach if he liked the quarterback room, right, 567 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 2: not just Rogers here and you open the door and 568 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: look in there. Do you like what you say? That's 569 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: what my question. He sure did. He likes Tyrod's here. 570 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 2: He likes a lot of things about how he performs 571 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: and competes. You got a young kid that's not able 572 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 2: to go yet. I think that'll be an interesting project. 573 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 2: So the room which you found out last year is 574 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: a reality. I think the room now the backup doesn't 575 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: need all the reps. No, he can function if he 576 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: has to play. You can function pretty well with whatever 577 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: limited reps are going to give him when we get 578 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: the season going. 579 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing I like about Tyra is that he's 580 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: always protected the football throughout his career. And you got 581 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: a very good defense on the other side. So let's 582 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: transition to defense. What's the most significant change is on 583 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: that side of the ball? 584 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 4: Would you say on the defense? 585 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No. 586 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: I think you know the secondaries is intact. You know, 587 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: you got one of the best secondaries in terms of 588 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 3: the corners that are that are out there, I mean 589 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: other than pass rusher. With Hassan Reddick being gone, and 590 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 3: and Ken Huff come in and be the situational rusher 591 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: that really Hassan, you know, the role that he filled 592 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: a season ago. I see that as really the only 593 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: big change. 594 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: What do you look the defensive tackle at all? Next 595 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: to quinnonh kin Law comes over in free agency, they 596 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: signed a Lucky Photo as well. Solomon Thomas resigns, and 597 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: then everybody talked a lot throughout the off season about 598 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: that safety position. Chuck Clark. We didn't get no opportunity 599 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: to see him last year. He's back and he's going 600 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: to be manning one of the spots next to Tom Adams. 601 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: We talked to Moseley about Clark and they played together 602 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: before in Baltimore. I think that'll be nice and he'll 603 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: do a fine job as long as he's healthy. The 604 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: point for me to answer your first question is I 605 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: do worry about the pass rush? 606 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: Hmm. Interesting. 607 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: You're going to score now, You're going to score faster, 608 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna score more. You're going to be in fourth 609 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: quarters with a lead. The opponent's going to be throwing 610 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 2: every down trying to catch you. Pass rush got to 611 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: put the guy on the ground. I hope Hassan Reddick 612 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 2: gets back here, and then maybe McDonald has to come 613 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: through too. 614 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 3: And I'd say this too, probably the one we can 615 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: say how great this team and it is a great defense. 616 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: One area they're not good stop in the run, like 617 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: Michael Clemens and them. Those guys got to be better 618 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: at stop set in the edge, because I think what 619 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: was it, I think they were fifteenth or sixteenth, which 620 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: is for a defense of this caliber, that's not good 621 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 3: enough in my opinion, middle of the pack stopping the run. 622 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: Do you think since they played from behind or these 623 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: teams oftentimes play with the lead. Against the Jets, we 624 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't really get an opportunity to see how teams are 625 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: going to try to come at you here. 626 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: Well, you're going to force you're going to force your 627 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 2: opponents to do what your defense may not like the most. 628 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: Throw maybe throw twenty five times in the second half 629 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: of thirty times, and so getting Hassan back, getting someone 630 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: else to be another pass rusher. You don't want to 631 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: blitz all the time. Although you have the corners to 632 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: send people they can usually hold up back. Then yeah, 633 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: so you might have to do a lot of that, 634 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, can it be solved by Hassan getting here. Yeah, 635 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: just get him here. 636 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: What's the acclamation period, Jim? If he gets back here 637 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: sometime during camp? How much time do you do you 638 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: want this rusher? 639 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 640 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, he'll have a pitch count, but 641 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 3: they'll just they'll rotate him in as just so if 642 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 3: he's getting fifteen plays, I think he could do fifteen. 643 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: He'll be in great shape. He's very serious about rushing 644 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 2: the passer. 645 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: What's made him so effective over the years last. 646 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: Four Well, first off, Arizona drafts him and they try 647 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: to make him an inside linebacker and he can't do it, 648 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 2: and they thought he was a bust chandler. Jones goes down, 649 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 2: He goes down to the office and begs for a 650 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 2: chance to rush the passer. They go, what the heck, 651 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: we're not using it linebacker anymore, and boom, He's like 652 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: Robert Mathis. He can get under the paths and get 653 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: off the block and explode. So he's terrific at that. 654 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 2: That's all he's gonna do the rest of it. Don't 655 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: have him drop into the flat. They'll throw over there 656 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: and complete it. So just rush the pass. 657 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: Carolina used in that capacity as while he had double 658 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 3: digit sacks and I mean that's to send him at 659 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: the quarterback. 660 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 4: That's his job for Reddick. 661 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: What's the hat for you guys. 662 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 2: We're going to Washington tonight, So Washington tomorrow, balt excuse me, 663 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: the day after, and then Tampa Bay. 664 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: Give me the top. Let's get out on this. Give 665 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: me the top five challengers to the chiefs in NFC. 666 00:29:59,400 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: Top five. 667 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I gave you a big number there. 668 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: The whole North, all four of them, all four of them. Yeah, 669 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 2: they're all problems in their own right. They all had 670 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: winning records last year. 671 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 4: Burrows beat them consistently. 672 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so they're an issue. Could three teams 673 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: come out of the North? People always say, well, they 674 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: cannibalize each other and they won't be able to do it. 675 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: They could in your division. Two could come out of here. 676 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: So it's a little different of a battle than I 677 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 2: see in the North. The North has got, you know, Lamar. 678 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: You ever checked Lamar's record against the NFC. I think 679 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: it's just don't hold me to the number, but it's 680 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: like twenty eight and two. Yeah, he's a problem for 681 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: teams that only see him once in a while. 682 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: And I think Houston and Jacksonville Jacksonville, believe it or not, 683 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: only lost two years ago. They were on the road 684 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: in Arrowhead. That's your lost twenty seven to twenty. Peterson 685 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: knows how to play Andy Reid in my but that's 686 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 3: if Trevor Lawrence has a better year. 687 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 4: You know that. 688 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: To me, Jacksonville was a disappointing team last year, I mean, 689 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 3: and then Houston just kind of supplanted them. So those 690 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: are two teams. 691 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: I keep mind winning your divisions. You might all have 692 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: the same. You might have ten wins, Buffalo might have ten, 693 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: Miami might have ten. 694 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: You think it could be that close? 695 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why wouldn't it be. You know, you all 696 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 2: know each other, you know they're all good. So I 697 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: do think there's a chance for you know, three to 698 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: the playoffs. It usually never happens. I think two would 699 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: come out of here. The North might beat each other 700 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: up and only get two out, one out of the West, 701 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: one out of the South. And I like Houston. 702 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: This was fun, guys. I really appreciate having you both 703 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: in studio. Even though we're wearing blue today, we're gonna 704 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: have to eat some green. 705 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: You know, when I left this team, I gave all 706 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 2: my green clothes away all my relatives, all those Irish 707 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: people wanted them. 708 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: And I'll get you a lecture m hm