1 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I've been protecting Tennesseeans for seventy six years. To find 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: out more about our history in the volunteer state and 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: to get a quote, visit FBHP dot com. I'm Mike 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: Keith with a very special guest. You know him from 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Titans preseason. You know him from NFL Network, you know 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: him from CBS Television. You know him from his role 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: on Yellowstone Charles Davis. Welcome. Well, I see the hat. 9 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 2: You don't. I wish you'd like to be a rep. 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: We all will. 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: This is my way of trying to say, can can 12 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: you get me a walk on part? I'm not even 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: asking for a line yet. Yeah, just a scene. But 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: guess what, I missed my window because they've shot all 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: the finals. I got the final season and now I 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: guess I'll I hope I can get on one of 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: the spinoffs. 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Well, there you go, there's plenty of those coming. You've 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: also got your Tennessee letterman on today, so you're looking. 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: You've got your orange. I want to ask you something 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: about that. Everyone refers to General Neland's seven game maxims. 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: You haven't played for Tennessee since nineteen eighty five? Can 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: you still do the game maxims? 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: Team making a few of his mistakes? Will win play 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: for and make the breaks when one comes our wayscore 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: like I can go through it here? Hold on? Can 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: you hold on one second? 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure? Oh yeah, holding on? Maybe I should sing 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: during this interlude as Charles Davis has left the broadcast position, 30 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: I just wondered if he knew him. I guess I've 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: gone into something a little deeper. 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: Okay, take a look at this. 33 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: Okay, do that game maxims? Yes, you've got them, laminated 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: that travels with me, So the game maxims travel with you. 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: I do the game maxims every the night before any 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: game I broadcast, you, really, I do. I have the 37 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: game Maxims with me to remind me about what winning 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 2: football involves. So I'm not on air quoting the game maxims, 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: but I'm conscious of what they are because they play 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: out in the game. How many times have we seen it? 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: At first a game or breaks go against it? Don't 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: let us put on more steam. Those are teams that 43 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: get down early and come back and win late. Press 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: the kicking game for here's where the breaks are made. 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: When he muffs the punt, when someone gets a kick, 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: big kickoff return. It's all in there. This is all 47 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: what it's about. And yes it's us for us at Tennessee, 48 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: and the pride is off the charts about where the 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: General left us, and we're still doing it to this day. 50 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: But it still applies. The stuff you put in place, 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: then that's the same football we're talking about now. I 52 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: don't care how you break it down. We may be sing, 53 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 2: you know, shotgun and spreading it out and throwing it, 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: but carry the fight to the opponent and keep it 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: there for sixty minutes. It still applies. So I do 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: those and I've got a few others that I have here. 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: I go through all that stuff the night before the game, 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: you know, Jungle Book part two. Here's a wall the 59 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: jungles older and as true as the sky. You know, 60 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: and talk about the strength of the pack is the wolf, 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: and the strength of the wolf is the pack. 62 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: So you everything within your core values of football. You 63 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: go to the night before you do a broadcast and 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: General Neland's seven game maxims are right. 65 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: There top of the chart. Wow, that's it. I didn't 66 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: know that about you, because there's a General jungle Book 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: part two. 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Yes, so you've got that, did jump? Yeah? 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: Right right? Conversations I've had with coaches about how the 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: game is played, how the game's evolved. I talk with 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: coaches in the offseason headed into a season about what 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: are the trends that they're seeing and how the game 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: is being played, and these will be my notes for him. 74 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 2: I've got a I've got two pages of time with 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: Mike Leach and notes on how he sees the game 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: and how he sees it going, and I'll go over those. 77 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I've got my Garret Patterson notes. I got all sorts 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: of stuff. And I'm not just trying to do the 79 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: name drop thing. It sounds like fun, but the bottom 80 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: line as it helps me get better, at least in 81 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: my mind. Others listening to me may not agree, but 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: in my mind I try and get better. 83 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: We know what a student, Charles Davis is. I mean, 84 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: that's the thing that comes across in all of your broadcasts, 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: and you're giving You're pulling back the curtain for us 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, showing us where that knowledge of all 87 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: of this, where you're getting your master's, your doctorate, and 88 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: you're consistently working on something else. 89 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: It's very impressive. I appreciate it. I mean, I'm not 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: gonna wor you with the rest of I've I've got 91 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: about fifteen cards of different things from different coaches. Remember 92 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: Pat Hill Church of Presne State. Yeah, he gave me 93 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: his stuff. That the mantra that they live by at 94 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,239 Speaker 2: Fresno State. Okay, what he called their points of points 95 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: of difference that separated them that he wanted to separate 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: from him, you know, Fresno State from other people. And 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: they were like five points. I won't bore you with them. 98 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: But my favorite part is at the end of it, 99 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: point one point two point three point four point five. 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: Know what his final thing was, shut up and hit someone. 101 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: Shut up, hit somebody. 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, we've gone through all that. At the end of it, 103 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 2: what does football come down to? Blocking and tackling? At 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: the end, up and hit someone. 105 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: We've got more coming up with Charles Davis on the OTP. 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: But first of all, I need to remind you that 107 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: seat Geek is now the official ticketing partner of the 108 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Seat Geek is the newest member of the 109 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: Titans family. If you haven't heard the name yet, why 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: haven't you been listening to the OTP more because we 111 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: say it on every show, right we do, you'll be 112 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: hearing it a lot more. Certainly whether you're buying or 113 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: selling tickets to the Titans games or any live event 114 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: in Nashville. Seat Geek is the place to do it. 115 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: Seat Geek the new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: So Titans fans can fan. Let's talk about you and 117 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: the NFL. This past weekend, Charles Davis had Pittsburgh Cleveland 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: turned out to be an exciting game. Cleveland wins thirteen 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: to ten. Talk to me about Pittsburgh six and four. 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: We've seen them. They've got some issues on offense that 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: seem pretty significant. Who are the Steelers? Do they even know? 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 2: They know who they are in terms of being Pittsburgh 123 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: and being the Steelers and having that identity, you know, 124 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: you know, like Mike Mike Tomlin is the standard is 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: the standard, right, So we're not going to go below that. 126 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: They're always going to be tough on defense. They want 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: to be that team that runs the ball and by 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: physical on offense. But the interesting part is we're going 129 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: on about five seasons now. They just haven't been good 130 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: running the football. Like, you know, they can talk about 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: all they want. The numbers actually tell you, uh, because 132 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: the numbers are like between twenty thirty two over the 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: last five years. That's just not been their identity. But 134 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: they want to play to that. The defense keeps them 135 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: in everything, and then the offense has managed to pull 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: together like one or two good drives and it's been 137 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. So can you pick in their quarterback? 138 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: It's this magical thing attached to him. I don't think 139 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: it's as much magic as it is. His defense has 140 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: kept it close and you finally found a way to 141 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: fashion together a drive. They've got to figure out some 142 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: consistency on offense. But the idea that they're six and 143 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: four and have been out gained in all ten games 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: and have a negative point differential which is now negative 145 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 2: twenty nine on the season, and the yardage going into 146 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: the game is like negative six seventy something, So whatever 147 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: it is now, that's stunning, Mike, It's absolutely stunning. You know, 148 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: Is it sustainable? Well sustainable that they're six and four 149 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: and still in the hunt. Is sustainable for the playoffs? 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: One would think not. But to me, who are the Steelers? 151 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: They're the team that you just can't get rid of. 152 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: And I called them body snatchers yesterday cause they're just 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: waiting and they're just lurking and they're looming. And I 154 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: don't know how many teams went home and looked at 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: their statue and said, we beat them up and down 156 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: the field. We did this, we did that. Yeah, it's 157 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: final score Pittsburgh. On the plus side, who that's who 158 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: the Steelers are. 159 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland is seven and three after the win, and they 160 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: were much more impressive when they played the Titans. So 161 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I was much more impressed with him overall. But I 162 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: wonder this, so Deshaun Watson injury not injury, playing, not playing, 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: figure out, he's got a broken bone in his shoulder, 164 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: he's out for the year. Is it almost now that 165 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: that's settled and they know they're not gonna have him 166 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: and they know that it's Dorian Thompson, Robinson or somebody 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: else at quarterback and that that's the way it's gonna 168 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: have to be. Does that almost give them a better 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: shot than what they had with the in and out 170 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: situation with the show on Watson. 171 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: It's strange, right, But I think you're onto something, Mike, 172 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 2: in terms of just having consistency. Would they rather have Watson, Yes, 173 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: because he is truly at top of his game, one 174 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: of the better quarterbacks out there, but they haven't had 175 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: the consistency. You know, think about his time off now 176 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: for the rest of the year, and then go back 177 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: to the season he sat out with Houston and then 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: count together how many games he's played over the last 179 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: three years, and it's a shockingly low number. So you're 180 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: right now, there's a settled part. And truthfully, the settled 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 2: part only happened because yesterday happened. Sunday happened, meaning Dorian 182 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson took the reins, was prepared, played a good 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: football game, executed what they asked him to do, and 184 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: of course they kept that very limited form because they 185 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: played to their defense. But now they feel like they 186 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 2: can start to go that he can be their guy. 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 2: There was a reason they kept them as QB two. 188 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: Everyone was pounding them because they let Josh Doll go 189 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: because of what Josh has done. And you know, us balls, 190 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: we're all revelican watching Josh do it, do it, do 191 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: his thing. But at the time, no one was blinking 192 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: that Josh had been let go. And you just rookie 193 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 2: QB too. But then Baltimore happened to Sean cam't play 194 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: in pregame. The youngster took the reps during the week, 195 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: but Mike, he's a youngster and I'm guarantee. He was like, yeah, 196 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: but I'm still not gonna play. And then they walked 197 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: in the locker room, said you're up, kid, and he 198 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: was like, what, hello, And I think Chris sim said 199 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: it so well on you know, Football Night in America 200 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 2: on NBC that night. He said, look, I played in 201 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: this league as a quarterback. No quarterbacks first started in 202 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 2: the NFL, should ever be against Baltimore? And he's right, 203 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: And that's what happened that day. Well, this time, after 204 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: they pulled him back, PJ. Walker played, Deshaun came back 205 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: and played. He observed better. He noticed how you had 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 2: to watch film. He learned. He's starting to learn how 207 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: to be a pro. Not that he was taking cavalierly, 208 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: but you know what, you know, as youngsters, they're trying 209 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: to look, Oh, that's what you need to do. I 210 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: gotta get the extra reps in, I gotta do that. 211 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: And he was so much more prepared and poised, and 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: he did a really nice job in this game, even 213 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 2: though their game plan kept him right in here. It's 214 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: kind of like watching, you know, Will Smith tell tell 215 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: Kevin James and Hitch you just stay right here. This 216 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: is where you live when you dance. I don't want 217 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: to see the other stuff. You live right here. I 218 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: don't want to see all those great moves out here. 219 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: I want to see here. And that's what they did 220 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 2: in the game, and they were able to get away 221 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: with it. 222 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: Quarterback injury is certainly a big story in Week eleven 223 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: and Charles Davis. They have been a story all year 224 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think only five starting quarterbacks have 225 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: been able to start every game. Is that an issue 226 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: at this moment in time or is it just sort 227 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: of something that has happened and that's the way it goes. 228 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: It's probably both. It's an issue for all of us 229 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: because we want the best to play, but how can 230 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: you predict anything? And it is the NFL. It is Look, 231 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 2: it's a collision sport, it's a violent sport, and sometimes 232 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: actually injuries happen without any contact. Boom, it just happens. 233 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: And we're just having one of those years. And it 234 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: just tells you the value of your backup quarterback? Where 235 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 2: did you spend your money, folks and your expectations for 236 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: the year. Russell Wilson in Seattle, his backup might as 237 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: well been you and me for all those years, because 238 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: even when he was hurt, he played through and the 239 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: backup never came into the equation. They got away with 240 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: it and spent their money elsewhere because Russell was so durable. 241 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 2: But when your main guy gets hurt and your backup's 242 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: not up to the task, the hopes and dreams of 243 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: your team come clattering down. I think the Jets are 244 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: a monster example of that. But it shouldn't have been 245 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: that way for them because their backup was the number 246 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: two overall pick in the draft, so he should have 247 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: been good to go and it just didn't work out. 248 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: So that's what we have. Yeah, it's an issue, but 249 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is me is this is where we 250 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: are now. Who's going to navigate it and take it 251 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: and go from there? Because someone's going to win a 252 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: division with a backup quarterback. It's firmly etched in my mind. 253 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: Maybe multiple All right. 254 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask you about the safety issue. Overall, 255 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: you played spigas safety. You played safety in college, you're 256 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: a defensive player. That's where your heart is. We've seen 257 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: plays where guys have landed on quarterbacks and they look 258 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: like just tackles, and they're a flag is thrown. We've 259 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: seen instances where the hip drop tackle thing has come 260 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: up a lot. The Mark Andrews play last week in 261 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: the Baltimore game certainly a big deal. Sometimes what I 262 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: see as an illegal tackle just looks like a tackle. 263 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: And I'm very much for player safety, don't get me wrong, 264 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: But how are we going to sort of differentiate what's 265 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: legal and what's illegal in a game that's a contact sport. 266 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: It's such a great question, isn't it? Because I do 267 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: think that there is a an't I won't call it 268 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: an edict, but it certainly like the officials have been 269 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: told anything even possible close throw the flag. They're trying 270 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: their best to keep these quarterbacks healthy, and obviously it's 271 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 2: not working. And you and I have both done games 272 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: where you've gone ooh that, I mean the guy tried, like, 273 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: short of levitating as a defender, he can't not land. 274 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: You know, guys trying to get to the side so 275 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: they don't land firmly on the quarterback hitting him at 276 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: the legs. Actually had one where an NFL head coach 277 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: I'd called a game and they'd called roughing the past 278 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: or an NFL head coach had texted me during the game, 279 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: and I got it after a game because my phone's off, 280 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: but after the game I got it and the text 281 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: was that was a bad call because he was actually 282 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: out of the pocket, so he shouldn't get the protection 283 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: as a quarterback. He's now a runner, right And I 284 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: missed that during the game, and I went back and looked, 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: and the coach was correct, but no one caught it. 286 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: The officials didn't catch it because they're so focused on 287 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: keeping the quarterbacks healthy. They whistled it and fell as 288 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: a flaggame because he tackled him low. That's all it was. 289 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: He wasn't late or whatever he tackling on the low part. 290 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, Mike, but I know this. The hip 291 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: drop is now heart our horse collar. We've advanced to 292 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: the horse collar to the hip drop, and to me, 293 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: the hip drop is a direct what's the proper word, 294 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: descendants the wrong thing and so direct reaction to we're 295 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: taking the head out of the game, and rightly so, 296 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: because now instead of going through a guy like we 297 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: used to. And you remember we were kids, face masks, crown, 298 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: a helmet, everything else. You splattered him. Life was good 299 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: and there were no flags for that as long as 300 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 2: you're on time. But now the head's gotta be out. 301 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: You're trying to go shoulder your your hip zone is 302 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: from the shoulders down, so you got to get into 303 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: that area. But you can't be up high and get him. 304 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: And so what's happening is when guys are going to 305 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 2: make these tackles, you're not driving shoulder into players anymore. 306 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: You're actually riding them and just trying to kind of 307 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: kind of bowl wrestle them down right like a calf, 308 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: you know, like you're doing a rodeo. Since I'm wearing 309 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: a Dutton hat, you're trying to do that. And you 310 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: see how those cowboys hop off and they slide to 311 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: the side and use their weight to drag them down. Well, 312 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: leaves are getting tangled up in the whole deal. I 313 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: understand coaches being upset. I don't think it's the greatest 314 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: play in the world myself, but everything that you keep 315 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: taking away there has to be an answer for. And 316 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: that's the answer for defenders. Earlier this year, Pete Carroll 317 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 2: was upset about because he teaches that role tackle for 318 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: rugby tackle the oldest rugby tackle. It's banned in rugby. 319 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: The hip drop is by the way, so we got 320 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: to take a look at that. And now John Harball's 321 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 2: talking about because he just lost one of his better players. 322 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: What I say is, I get it, coaches. I'm actually 323 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: on your side. But I'll bet you we pull tape 324 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: of their defense and I bet we'll find hip drop 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: tackles because you guys have to have something to counter 326 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: with because if you're throwing shoulders and all that, in 327 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: a lot of times your head gets in and now 328 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: you get a penalty on your hands. So people are 329 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 2: trying to come up with a different answer. I hope 330 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: we can figure this one out because the hip drop, 331 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: to me, is a dangerous play and we're losing too 332 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: many players because the receivers have all told us and 333 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: it's such a weird deal. I'd rather get hit up 334 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: high than my legs. My legs are my stock in trade, 335 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 2: and we're trying to take the head out of it 336 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: and do that, which is a very good safety move. 337 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 2: You ask any receiver hit me up here. Please not 338 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: down on the legs and hip drop involves the legs. 339 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: Hey Titans fans more Charles Davis in a moment on 340 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: the OTP, But first a reminder about Duncan. That's right. 341 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: It's always game on with Duncan. So grab a coffee 342 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: and kick off the action. Whether that's drinking a cup 343 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: on your way to the game or grabbing one to 344 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: go before watching the game at home, Duncan is always 345 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: there to help you get your game on. Just like 346 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: the pros, we need to be at our best come 347 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: game time, which is why Duncan is the most important 348 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: part of your game day ritual because it's always the 349 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: best call for football America. 350 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: Run on Duncan. 351 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about c J. Stroud as we 352 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: go back to quarterbacks. Yesterday, he throws three interceptions, throws 353 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: for three hundred and thirty six yards, and his team, 354 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, they win over Arizona. He says he's 355 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: going to be like Steph Curry, that he's going to 356 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: keep shooting no matter what. So the question to you, 357 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: Charles is this, are you surprised that CJ. Stroud has 358 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: done as well as he has? This early in his 359 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: career with the Texans to this level. 360 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Yes, I think anyone who says otherwise has been a 361 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: little bit disingenuous, because what rookie is supposed to be 362 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: this successful and elevated team that's barely won games over 363 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: a certain amount of time. Right, So everything that we're 364 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: going into a plus. You remember the run up to 365 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: the draft and do you like Bryce better? Do you 366 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: like CJ better? I like Bryce because he seems like 367 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: more of an adult. There have been all these whispers 368 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: about CJ. And he doesn't do this, he doesn't do that. 369 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: All that seems to be garbage. Almost feel like someone 370 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: wanted him so badly they put out the misinformation campaign 371 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: hoping he would drop to them, and it didn't work. 372 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: Because I met with a young man and he's got it. Yeah, 373 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: I would tell Carolina Pants, don't give up on Bryce. Okay, 374 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't give up on Bryce. He's a 375 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 2: really good player who needs some work. But CJ has 376 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: hit it, and he's hit it big. He reminds me 377 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: of Marino in a sense his rookie year with the 378 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 2: confidence and just going out and playing. But Marino didn't 379 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: start from day one. This kid did, and by the way, 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: Houston's in the playoff race. 381 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: Houston is playing for the division lead this week. As 382 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the Titans will see Bryce Young 383 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: this week and the Panthers are one and nine. He 384 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: was sacked seven times in their loss against Dallas. Here's 385 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: a guy who played for one of the best high 386 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: school programs in the country played for one of the 387 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: best college programs in the country. How much of a 388 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: transition is it for Bryce Young in your opinion, Charles Davis, 389 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: that he's never been a quarterback on a bad team before. 390 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a transition to that. But I thought 391 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: he's kind of trans a little bit last year at 392 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: Bama that even though they went eleven and two and 393 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: won their bowl game and all that, there were some 394 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: struggles in there. He had to play hurt. Offensive line 395 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 2: wasn't quite as good as what Bamas used to having. 396 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: The Tennessee game, and I know there's a Tennessee pride there, 397 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: but I think a non biased observer would say, if 398 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 2: probably shuldn't don't play against Tennessee, Tennessee wins by three touchdowns. Yes, Okay, 399 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: that's who he was. He made things happen and the 400 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 2: whole thing that goes with that. The team around him 401 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: in Carolina I expected to be better this year. They're 402 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: one of my more disappointing teams. Because that division, the 403 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: NFC South, was wide open. I thought you could make 404 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: a case for any of the four in preseason to 405 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: win it, even with a rookie quarterback. But the offensive 406 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: line's been a mess. Receivers can't get open. Miles Sanders 407 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: hadn't been a runner they wanted to have. I'm not 408 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: absolving him from playing. He's throwing too many pick sixes, 409 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: all right. He still made some plays that shouldn't be there. 410 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: But had head coach was calling plays and he gave 411 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 2: it up, then he took it back. I don't feel 412 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 2: like anything is going in the right direction of flowing. 413 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 2: That's not the issue in Houston. And here's the crazy part. 414 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 2: Three weeks ago, Bryce Young versus c J. Stroud, Carolina 415 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: beat Houston, and Bryce Young had a better day than CJ. Stroud, 416 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: and we've totally forgotten that that even happened. 417 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with this, Charles Davis. The Detroit Lions 418 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: are eight and two. When Dan Campbell got in there, 419 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: many people questioned him being hired, they questioned Brad Holmes 420 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: as the GM. They were bad, and then last year 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: they got better. They win the season ender to knock 422 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: off Green Bay and keep them out of the playoffs 423 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: to finish nine and eight. They were a fashionable team 424 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: coming into this year, and now here they are eight 425 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: and two. As the Titans go through the transition, they're 426 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: clearly going through. They played all six offensive draft picks 427 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: yesterday in the game at Jacksonville. I mean, they're playing 428 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: a lot of rookies. They clearly are doing something different 429 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: with Will Levis at quarterback. Should Detroit be the aspirational 430 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: in terms of how the Titans are building this now 431 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: and should that give Titans fans hope that it can 432 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: absolutely happen in pretty much short order. 433 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think you nailed it, like it's 434 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 2: a perfect one. But here's the beauty of it all. 435 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 2: Detroit had to hire Dan Campbell, they had to hire 436 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: Brad Holmes, and there were question marks there. Tennessee already 437 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: has Mike Rabel. There are no question marks there, Like 438 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 2: they've got the right person. Ran Carthon is the new GM. 439 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: He and Mike Grabel and the rest of that staff. 440 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 2: But to continue to work to hit on draft choices, 441 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: hit on the free agents, hit on everything, and then 442 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: go from there. Dan Campbell, Yeah, we all love the 443 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: presser and then we all went, oh, we've seen this 444 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: kind of presser before. That's the most authentic coach, you know. 445 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: He and Ravees are really similar people in terms of 446 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: being authentic. They go about it differently, but what you 447 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: see is what you get and they don't change. And 448 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: it's a beautiful thing to say. So Tennessee's good there. 449 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 2: Look I'll put it to you this way. Let Mike 450 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: Grabel hit the open market Tennessee and see how long. 451 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: See how long that goes. Okay, we all know what's 452 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: gonna happen there. People will fight with each other on 453 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: that one. And by the way, coaches who are already 454 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: having jobs would be out of a job if they 455 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: thought they could get Mike Grabel. That's how good Rabes is. 456 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 2: Dan Campbell has proven himself to be his authentic self 457 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: and stick with what he knows. But they've hit on 458 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 2: draft choices, the free agents, they've hit on. They showed 459 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: faith in a quarterback and Jared Goff that people thought 460 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: was misguided. Oops, they nailed that one. And somehow kept 461 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 2: their coaching staff together. Offensive coordinator had a chance to 462 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: be a head coach potentially, he stayed. Ben Johnson Aaron Glenn. 463 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: He gets a lot of mentioned about moving people. Defense 464 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: has gotten much better this year. Yeah, I think that's 465 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: a good way. That's a good way to put it. 466 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: You know. De Froyd is doing that and the way 467 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: they're going about doing it. They figured it out. This 468 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 2: is who we are and we played to that. 469 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, my friend, to you and yours. 470 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours and hopefully I'll see 471 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: you real soon. 472 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: I hope so. Charles Davis joining us on the OTP, 473 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: we appreciate you joining us, and Happy Thanksgiving to you 474 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: from the Titans family and thanks for listening to the 475 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: O t P.