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Speaker 1: Dan, we have breaking news.

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Speaker 2: I mean at the top of the top of the top,

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Speaker 2: before even the show intro. I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: We are excited to announce that we're doing our live

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Things Draft show on Sunday, August the eighteenth, at

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Speaker 1: the Miracle Theater in Washington, DC, our Nation's capital. For

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Speaker 1: those of you interested, the full details, including the time

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Speaker 1: and the price, will be available when tickets go on

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Speaker 1: sale this coming Monday, July the first. We're going to

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Speaker 1: be sending out the link via our newsletter, which you

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Speaker 1: a subscriber of the newsletter, you're going to get a

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Speaker 1: head start on the tickets. Eventually, we'll be posting the

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Speaker 1: link out to a wider audience later in the day.

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Speaker 1: So if you're interested, sign up for that newsletter now.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean, I think it's a no

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Speaker 2: brainer to me. Can I jump in real quick? Because

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Speaker 2: I think there's a bit of an asterisk as well. Sure,

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Speaker 2: we are also efforting and as of right now, as

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Speaker 2: of the time the show is coming out, we have

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Speaker 2: not yet confirmed, but are on the path to confirming

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Speaker 2: a second Fantasy Things Draft live show in Big twelve Country.

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Speaker 2: Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: A state where college football and barbecue may be very popular?

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, shout out Aimes Iowa. I wasn't supposed to. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're not confirmed, not yet, not yet, Okay, so we

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Speaker 2: are efforting. We are trying to lock in a venue

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Speaker 2: and lock in a town and situation. We are. I

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Speaker 2: think we're really close, so quite excited for the potential

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Speaker 2: of a dual Fantasy Things draft live show experience in August.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't the NFL draft move around now every year?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they do two in one year,

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Speaker 1: but what the hell?

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Speaker 2: If nothing else, we are following suit of how college

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Speaker 2: football things get drafted. And I'm so excited. We already

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Speaker 2: have a list mounting tie and I have some grand

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Speaker 2: designs about how these shows are going to go that

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Speaker 2: you're going to want to be there again. Efforting Big

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Speaker 2: twelve Country DC show is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Wild Sunday, August the eighteenth, the Miracle Theater in Washington,

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Speaker 1: you as soon as details are available. And of course,

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Speaker 1: if you live in another state where maybe college football

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Speaker 1: and barbecue is popular, keep your radar up in August. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: information as it becomes available. We're excited Fantasy Things twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen is finally upon us.

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Speaker 2: When I think destinations, I think DC in August, and

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Speaker 2: I think this possible state where barbecue is quite popular

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Speaker 2: in August. So I'll bring the gold bond tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: Ill that for me.

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Speaker 1: I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy.

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Speaker 2: You want to be happy for dake Ato steak?

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Speaker 1: Is that woo woom and dan and tie? Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the solid verbal, Boys and girls, my name is

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Speaker 1: Ty hilden Brandt. Joining me is always my man over

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Speaker 1: there in the big city. Daniel Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I am fortified with pork?

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Speaker 1: You said pork right.

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Speaker 2: I had a giant Cuban sandwich for lunch, and I

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Speaker 2: was just very excited for this show and all of

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Speaker 2: the opinions and the fire takes. Yep, not really. I

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Speaker 2: was going to throw out into the college Football podc universe,

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Speaker 2: so I really wanted to make sure my blood sugar

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Speaker 2: wasn't low. So I'm doing well, So I.

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Speaker 1: Got to be honest with you, Dan, the last two

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Speaker 1: days at the mysterious day job, I've really been kicking

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Speaker 1: my behind. Yeah, worked two consecutive twelve hour days, was

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Speaker 1: up early at like four am. Yeah, And I got

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Speaker 1: to be honest here while I'm tired, when you lose

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Speaker 1: got Yeah, I got the second wave going it. Not

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Speaker 1: really sure what time it is, but I'm ready to

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Speaker 1: do our book report on the twenty eleven so called

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Speaker 1: Game of the Century, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are not the first podcast to rewatch something

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Speaker 2: first sports podcast, probably not the first college football podcast,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not positive about that. To rewatch something and

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Speaker 2: form new opinions after the fact. But here we are

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Speaker 2: doing it to we're doing it. This was a game

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Speaker 2: that I actually I vividly remember, not just the game itself,

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Speaker 2: where I was like, this was not a fun football

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Speaker 2: game and getting a lot of you don't appreciate good defense.

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Speaker 1: Right, the Gary Danielson approach.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, it went far further than Gary, but and

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Speaker 2: I wanted to rewatch this one specifically to make sure

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Speaker 2: I wasn't misremembering my thoughts after watching it now going

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Speaker 2: on what.

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Speaker 1: Eight years ago, Yeah, eight years.

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Speaker 2: That's two full cycles, two full generations of players roughly,

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Speaker 2: the time feels right to attack this with fresh eyes.

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Speaker 1: I agree, And not only are we attacking it, but

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Speaker 1: as you said, other shows, there's a whole show called

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Speaker 1: The Rewatchables about not college football or sports. But this

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Speaker 1: is not a new concept by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: Of course, though in true solid verbal fashion, we did

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Speaker 1: of course, to see what their recommendations were around children

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Speaker 1: writing book reports. And we've got things in front of

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Speaker 1: us here setting plot, main characters, themes, opinion and analysis.

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Speaker 1: How does it compare it to similar games? Does it

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Speaker 1: Where they're predictable twists and turns in the story. We're

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Speaker 2: We're treating this game like it's Charlotte's Web? Is that

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Speaker 2: What's the end? What is the spider spell out? Is

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Speaker 2: By the way. The thumpig thing Wilbur Wilburn, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Hey, I did my fair share of book reports on

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Speaker 1: the Matt Christopher books, The Fox Steals Home, the year

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Speaker 1: Mom won the pennant. We're talking classic American novels here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember everybody in my class is reading very

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Speaker 2: doing like loul eric A biography, Right, that's right, what's

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Speaker 2: going from that direction? But yeah, I was. I was

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Speaker 2: But here we are and should we start? Is there

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Speaker 2: any do you want to play? Like the CBS? But

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Speaker 1: We don't have any of these licenses. I found this

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Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety two see if It Rings and Bells.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you were right, both undefeated going into this game. LSU,

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Speaker 1: into ot Was.

436
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: It predictable when you were when you went back and watched,

437
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: did you remember the rhythms of it? I? Yes, I did.

438
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 2: I didn't I did. I don't think I gave at

439
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: the time Alabama enough credit for moving the ball like

440
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: they did. They stalled out, and they missed kicks, and

441
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: they made poor decisions in the red zone, and that

442
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: was a theme of Theirs throughout the season and really

443
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: throughout a lot of the gym maclwayn era of being

444
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: good enough on offense to overwhelm teams eventually because of

445
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: their defense wearing teams down, but they were when they

446
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: actually had to make strategic play making decisions. It really

447
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 2: stalled out pretty consistently against good teams, and so that

448
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 2: to me was not I did not remember how all

449
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 2: purpose Trent Richardson was in this game. He returned to kick,

450
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: He was good catching balls out of the backfield, he

451
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: had some good runs. There was a little bit of

452
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: creativity sort of between the twenties for Alabama, and so

453
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: I was not ready fully for that. Even though ultimately

454
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: is a rough watch, Well it was a rough watch.

455
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: I remember the general rhythms of the football game. But

456
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: what I didn't remember is how much better I thought

457
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 2: Alabama looked in that game.

458
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 1: Yes, just as a whole. And Trent Richardson, I'm glad

459
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: you pointed him out. Not a lot of scoring in

460
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: this one, but statistically speaking and maybe athletically speaking, just

461
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: from an offensive stamp point, was probably the best player

462
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: on the field. He got a lot of action as

463
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: a whole. I thought Alabama just did more on offense.

464
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that and the implications of

465
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: that statement relative to LSU. I'm sure momentarily, but I

466
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: was impressed by what Alabama did. They did not win

467
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: the football game. But what I thought, my takeaway was

468
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: now upon the rewatch, is I'm glad we had a

469
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: Game of the Century Part two in which Alabama went

470
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 1: on to a twenty one nothing victory. Not because I

471
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: was a big Alabama Rah rah, but because I just

472
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: I felt like they were clearly the better team in

473
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: the first game, and it didn't work out because they

474
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: missed four kicks. They had ample opportunities to get a

475
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: little bit more separation to grab the lead, and they

476
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: weren't able to execute some in some key spots. So

477
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: at least in that sense, they were able to achieve redemption.

478
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they were. They were, I mean,

479
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 2: to me, they were better, but clearly better. They were

480
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: not able to finish drives in the same fashion that

481
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: LSU wasn't. They were just able to have more successful

482
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: drives in terms of yardage. I would also add I

483
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: thought Eric Reid is right there with Trent Richardson. In

484
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: terms of players of the game performances of the game,

485
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: Eric Reid was phenomenal. He was all over the place

486
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: stopping the run and had that huge interception which we'll

487
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: get to. I thought LSU was awful on offense, and

488
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: that to me was a problem because they were good

489
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: enough throughout the first part of their season. Jared Lee

490
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 2: was the starting quarterback going into this game because he

491
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: had performed pretty well. He was that year's Danny Etling.

492
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 2: Yeah you will. And so in terms of and we

493
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: can get to those main characters in this because we

494
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 2: mentioned Trent Richardson as the standout, which was expected going in.

495
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: He had waited behind mark Ingram a couple of years

496
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: prior and then finally this is his big, huge chance

497
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 2: twenty eleven that is to shine. And you know, Alabama

498
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: has the edge on the offensive line. They probably have

499
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 2: the edge of quarterback. Even though I hesitate to compliment

500
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: the chin strapped a j mccarroen too dramatically. Did you

501
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: see his.

502
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: It was a very nice abe link and chin strap.

503
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: It was rough.

504
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that he could grow facial hair, to

505
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: be honest.

506
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: Pre Musburger girlfriend in the uh, maybe now wife girlfriend

507
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: in the in the crowd, But he was actually fine,

508
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: especially considering it was his first year as a starter

509
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: and he's playing again.

510
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: I thought he looked really poised in the pocket. Yeah

511
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: he had, he missed a couple of bad throats, He

512
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: missed a couple, but he was young. Yeah, he never

513
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: had the strongest arm, But in terms of pocket presence,

514
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: I thought he actually looked pretty good. Despite the fact

515
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: that he had an incredible LSU front seven bearing down

516
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: on him on every play. The Bama O line held

517
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: up well enough to give him time to throw the

518
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: ball down the field, which is one of those things

519
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: when I look back, it jumps out at how much

520
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: more balanced Bama was on offense, how much more effective

521
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: they were in the passing game, and just on a

522
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: really basic level, how much more willing they were to

523
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field.

524
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 3: LS.

525
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: You didn't throw the ball down a field at all,

526
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: maybe like twice that entire game, And it's sort of

527
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: mind boggling.

528
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: I know.

529
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: It's something we talked about off air. You look at

530
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: some of the receivers that LSU had. They never fully

531
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: capitalized on having Odell Beckham or having Jarvis Landry well

532
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: that year.

533
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: Landry, I don't think he affected much. I don't think

534
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: he saw the field that much in this game. But

535
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: they had Ruben rand.

536
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: Rubin Randall Rand had four years of NFL experience down

537
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: the road. And because of the offense they opted to

538
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: run with Jordan Jefferson, essentially a speed option offense. They

539
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: weren't able to take advantage of that wide receiving corps

540
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: and just throw the ball down the field and take chances.

541
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: The Jarrett Lee Jordan Jefferson drama that unfolded in this

542
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: game starts the game, throws a backbreaking interception, can't really

543
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: do much through the air, gets benched. Jordan Jefferson comes in.

544
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: They don't fully trust him to go downfield at all.

545
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: He's running option stuff. They opt for a change up

546
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: when Jordan Jefferson isn't doing well, bring Jarrett Lee in,

547
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: and he immediately throws an interception deep into their own terrance,

548
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: deep in their own territory instantly. So it it did

549
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: a nice job of appeasing people watching this game, who said,

550
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: why you know, Lee has been the guy this year,

551
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Why are you yanking him? He's been totally solid this year?

552
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 2: And then he comes in and throws a pick immediately,

553
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: and so I almost want to not revise. But we

554
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: talk about main characters in this game, and be it

555
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: the best players, if it's Eric Reid, if it's Trent Richardson,

556
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: if it's these secondaries, which by the way, we have,

557
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: like we're talking Tyra, Matthew Ferrold Simon, Eric Reied, De Milliner, Drake, Patrick,

558
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Mark barn like NFL, NFL, NFL type guys. It's impossible

559
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: to throw down the field pretty much on either one

560
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: of these defenses, as most teams found out throughout twenty eleven.

561
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: But main characters to me by the end of this

562
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: were the main characters who kind of buried their head

563
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: in the sand, and that was Jim McElwain and LSU's

564
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator Greg stud Drawa. I forget how you pronounced

565
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: that name. He is thrown into the mix when Steve

566
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: Kragthorpe is diagnosed with Parkinson's I think right before or

567
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: right in the beginning of fall camp, and he's the

568
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: offensive line coach, and I know you're gonna be shocked

569
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: by this tie. But when an offensive line coach takes

570
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: over an offensive as offensive coordinator, sometimes he's gonna be like, well,

571
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: let's get more offensive line on the field. Let's go

572
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: power every down. Let's get seven eight dudes on the

573
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage blocking every down. And LSU's offense was

574
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: a rough watch because of it. I was waiting for,

575
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: because we were seeing the option stuff all the time

576
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: with Jordan Jefferson, I was waiting for an option pass.

577
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 2: I was waiting for, Okay, I'm gonna start running off

578
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: tackle and then take that step back and somebody's gonna

579
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: pop wide open. It could have been it never happened.

580
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: It could have been one of those rare moments where

581
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: you've got the end around and then the surprise lefty

582
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver throwing a pass. Yeah.

583
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: LSU was decidedly showing very little in terms of play

584
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: action or jet sweep action, which Alabama actually did show,

585
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: and when they actually did show that, it kind of

586
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: worked yea for LSC.

587
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: It was very rare.

588
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: Spencer Ware and Michael Ford were both pretty good just

589
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: over the course of twenty eleven, but the offense was

590
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: such a rough watch. LSU had succeeded in saying we're

591
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: gonna go straight at teams with power, and it had

592
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: worked up to that point, and little did they know

593
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: that we're talking about a historically dominant defense for Alabama.

594
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: So if we go back very quickly and just give

595
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: you a brief overview of the events, it was all

596
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: field goals in regulation. We had two field goals one piece.

597
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: In the second quarter, it was three to three at

598
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: a half. We had a forty six yarder from Cade

599
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: Foster the only field goal he made in that game

600
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, which put Alabama up six to three.

601
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: And then in the fourth quarter, drew Ale Molem, as

602
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: Vernon Lunquist might say, hit a thirty yard er to

603
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: tie it up early in the fourth quarter. It remained

604
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: scoreless for the rest of the game. In overtime, Lsu

605
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: gets the ball back, drew Ale More kicks a twenty

606
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: five yard field goal to win it nine to six.

607
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Let me ask you.

608
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 2: This, I'm ready no more characters.

609
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: Well, I do want to talk characters, because there's this

610
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: whole thing in many a book report about main characters

611
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: going in, main characters going out. Who were the main

612
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: characters coming into this game and did you feel that

613
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: they paired up with the main characters the real characters

614
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: that drove the storyline. Now on the back side of this,

615
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: as we look back in retrospect.

616
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: It's Saban Miles because of their history in playing tight games.

617
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: Alice who wins the year before, I believe, and then

618
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: they have not won sin We can look that up

619
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: and you can verify while I'm speaking, But it's the

620
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: fact that Les Miles has won a national championship at LSU,

621
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: Nick Saban had won a national championship at LSU, And

622
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: it's number one and number two and the most consistent

623
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: thing we have going into this game, because the quarterbacks

624
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: were not household names or anybody that we really knew

625
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: a ton about from a national perspective, and that we

626
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 2: knew both of these teams had very good defenses, and

627
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: we knew Honey Badger, Tyra Matthew a good deal. But

628
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: going in, it wasn't really Honey Badger versus the Alabama offense.

629
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: It was nothing like that. So it was really Saban

630
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: and Miles going into this game. And that's actually where

631
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: I was focused going in, just how they were going

632
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: to adjust and how they were going to react and

633
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: how they were going.

634
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: To go at each other.

635
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if there were any other main characters

636
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: to me, beyond like saying LSU's defense is a character

637
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: and Alabama's defense is a character, and the fact that

638
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: it's at Alabama in Tuscaloosa, so that Bryant Denny is

639
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: a character. That's it.

640
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think you hit the players going

641
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: into the game. One that I thought had to be

642
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: a key player coming out of the game was Brad Wing. Sure,

643
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: the whole special team's angle to me was bigger on

644
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: the LSU side than it was on the Bamas side.

645
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: The BAMA side obviously between Jeremy Sharp and Kate Foster

646
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: they had a negative impact on the outcome of that

647
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: football game. But between Brad Wing and a gargantauan seventy

648
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: three yard punt which totally flipped the field. About midway

649
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter, after a devastating interception thrown by

650
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: a wide receiver Marquise Mays deep in out, deep in

651
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: LSU territory by Alabama, LSU gets a chance to take over.

652
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: They go three and out, but Brad Wing just on

653
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: corks a monster punt which goes over Marquis I can't

654
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: even say Marquise Mays's head, who had a bum ankle

655
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: couldn't turn, couldn't pivot, couldn't get back in time, he

656
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: flips the field. He had six punts in this game

657
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: for a total of two hundred and twenty six yards.

658
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: It doesn't average out the best, but those were big

659
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 1: punts and they needed him to come through to play

660
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: that field position game in the midst of a defensive struggle.

661
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: And then on the place kicking side of things, Drew Lemon,

662
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: with three big kicks, went three for three in this

663
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: football game. If he misses one of those, we're talking

664
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: about potentially a different outcome here. He answered the call

665
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: in every which way that he had to to give

666
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: LS the victory. So those two names, in particular on

667
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: the LSU side, maybe didn't get as much love as

668
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: some of the star power that we had elsewhere on

669
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: the field. But in terms of people who actually impacted

670
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: the result, look no further than the place kicker and

671
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: the punter.

672
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would add in Benny Logan just in terms

673
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: of special teams and kicking because.

674
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: He had a blocked kick. He had a block kick.

675
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: That's right, I forgot LSU special teams. Yeah. In terms

676
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: of characters who came up huge, you have to include him, Yeah,

677
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: you're right on all counts because LSU couldn't move the ball.

678
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: You look at theirs and I don't know if uh

679
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: you want me to play my Divorjack, but this was

680
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: pre Devorjack divoracked. This is field goal miss, punt, field

681
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: goal miss, interception, field goal miss, punt, field goal good,

682
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: end of half, punt, punt interception, field goal good, punt interception,

683
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: field goal good, interception, punt punt punt, end of game

684
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: or regulation field goal miss, field goal good. So that

685
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 2: special teams was huge because you also look at the

686
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: actual LSU offensive drives and it's eight plays eleven yards

687
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: because of penalties, uh, three plays two yards, it's just

688
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: eleven play have eleven plays seventy four yards that ends

689
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: in a field goal at the half, and then the

690
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: second half opens with six plays twelve yards. This was

691
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: not this, I mean, this was a perfect game for

692
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: it Devorjak and Lsubama.

693
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 1: It was the Divorzack game of the century innutes exactly right.

694
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: Do you think that the people running this broadcast for

695
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: CBS knew in advanced that they were going to get

696
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: this kind of game, and that's why they played hot

697
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: shell rays tonight tonight as the lead into this broadcast.

698
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so.

699
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: Like, the only reason you play hot Shell Ray in

700
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: twenty eleven is if you're trying a little too hard

701
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: to spice things up.

702
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's it's a game everybody was looking

703
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: forward to for a long time. And when you look

704
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: at the American Songbook of the past one hundred two

705
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: hundred years, with all of the options laid out in

706
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: front of.

707
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: It, everything comes up hot shell Ray.

708
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: How do you not go hot Shell Ray? And you

709
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: have to agree that I have a lot of thoughts

710
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: about music supervisors, but I agree with everything about what

711
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: was going on in this game. Something else character wise

712
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 2: that occurred to me at the start of the game

713
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: when they're bringing up the like and here's the starting

714
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 2: lineups for the time. This is post Julio Jones, pre

715
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, Calvin Ridley, Jerry Judy. You know, having four

716
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: or five stars at every receiver slot and every skill

717
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: position slot on offense. And you look at who skill

718
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 2: position wise, they're really good. It was Trent Richardson and

719
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: Eddie Lacy in the backfield. And Eddie Lacy gets in

720
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: a little bit. He's not the starter. But it's Kevin Norwood,

721
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: Dandrew White, Darius Hanks, Marquis Mays, Kenny Bell, Michael Williams

722
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: at tight end. This isn't O J. Howard, This isn't

723
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: you know. These are not guys who was IRV Smith

724
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: this year, who goes pretty high in the draft. And

725
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 2: that was a little bit not alarming. But I had

726
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: forgotten that there was that weird gap era where they

727
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: just weren't stacked with top top, top end talent there

728
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 2: and they still found a way, still found a way.

729
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: Didn't really go to them a lot, but they That

730
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: was one of my things, and this is why I

731
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: saw it said the offensive coordinators were my main characters.

732
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: It's just like, I don't know what they actually trust

733
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: in this game beyond running straight ahead and going for dives, dives, dives.

734
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: There was a lot of nervousness when it came to

735
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: play calling, I think, especially so on the LS side

736
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: of things. Okay, but oh, I think I think we're

737
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: on the same page. The other thing that I'll mention,

738
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: then we'll move on talking about the Alabama lineup. Mm hmm.

739
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Should have been a bit of foreshadowing when Vern Lonquist

740
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: announced at the beginning that Alabama has two kickers, a

741
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: short kicker and a long kicker that they might use

742
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: in this way. That is usually a bad sign.

743
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: If you have two kickers, you don't have one kicker.

744
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: That's right, That's what they say.

745
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: Did you feel bad for anybody as you're writing this

746
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: book report in this game?

747
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I felt bad for Cade Foster missing the kick. I

748
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: felt bad for I feel bad when college kickers miss kicks.

749
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: I do. I do too. I felt bad for that.

750
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 2: I felt bad for a little bad for the sad

751
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 2: Alabama fan because this was the birth of that. I mean,

752
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: there have been like three or four famous sad Bama

753
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: fans and sad fans in general, but I want to

754
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: say this was he was the Godfather, whatever his name is.

755
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: And they cut to him a couple times at the

756
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: end of the game, nervous in overtime, and then when

757
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: Alabama loses, when the kick goes through and he's being

758
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: consoled by a young girl next to him.

759
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

760
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: I felt a little bit bad for him because he

761
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: was probably drunk. He was probably just having a lot

762
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: of emotions. Maybe he was trying to impress the girl

763
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: next to him, and he couldn't keep his emotions in check.

764
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: It was a rough night for him. I felt bad

765
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: for Jordan Jefferson. Yeah, Jordan Jefferson was immensely talented, wasn't

766
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: the best quarterback. Okay, let's let's be clear, but in

767
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: many ways embodied some of the frustration that the LSU

768
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: fan base we would later learn had with Les Miles,

769
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: Like they had all this talent on the field, and

770
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: they couldn't assemble the pieces in a more meaningful way

771
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: on offense. And Jordan Jefferson he kind of represented that.

772
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: And in this game at this point in time, mind

773
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: juelis he was very successful. I don't know if the

774
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 1: angst had quite build up around.

775
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: Lest Yeah they were fine.

776
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah right, But later on a couple of years down

777
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: the road, we saw this manifest in a different way.

778
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: It really came to a head. That's why Les Miles

779
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: was on the outs now. And Jordan Jefferson, again very talented,

780
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: very athletic, but it was put in a situation that

781
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: it was really tough for him to succeed against a

782
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: really high, high level defense like Alabama.

783
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I felt bad for OBJ. I just

784
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: wanted to see I wanted to see a tunnel screen,

785
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: a jail break screen, a bubble screen like we had.

786
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: Then you're not going to test the Alabama secondary deep.

787
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: You're not going to put him in a position yeah

788
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: to struggle. But they didn't trust Ruben Randall or I

789
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: think Russell Shepard Russell Slot a little bit. They had

790
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: not trust these guys at all, the clear most talented

791
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: players on this offense.

792
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: They had a tunnel screen called for Obj, and they

793
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: also put Obj back for a punt return right which

794
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: he damn near broke. But then it was called back

795
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: because Tron Matthew closelined somebody.

796
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: It happens. Who am I on the punt return? Yeah? Yeah,

797
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: it was a rough watch. I wanted more from a

798
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: young Obj, not his fault. Were there any characters you admired? Yeah,

799
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: anybody playing in the secondary in this game. I mean

800
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: I mentioned Eric Reid. He comes up with a huge

801
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: interception on the trick play and he shouldn't have been

802
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: where he was. He just improvised and saw Michael Williams

803
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: running free and made the play to rip it out

804
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: of his hands. He was everywhere, so I admired him.

805
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: Morris Claiborne, I was positive was going to be an

806
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: amazing NFL player. Apparently he just wasn't. But he was

807
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: great in this game against Bama's receivers. Yeah. I basically

808
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 2: admired everybody playing defense, but I admired a for him

809
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 2: pretty spelt Eddie Lacy coming in and spelling Trent Richardson.

810
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

811
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: I was expecting a little bit more Eddie Lacy, but ultimately, no,

812
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: not so much. And a young Kirby smart.

813
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart, by the way, a very very very clear shot.

814
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: If you go back and watch a YouTube of him

815
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: picking his nose, rolling up whatever he picked out of

816
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: his nose, and then flinging it onto the.

817
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: Field, let he who hath not picked thy nose cast

818
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: I don't know the rest of this. I'm not casting aspersions.

819
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, yeah, FYI, yeah, so that's that's who I. Uh,

820
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: I liked a good amount.

821
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw Gary Danielson in there.

822
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: Oh.

823
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,479
Speaker 2: Gary Danielson was great in this game. He was like full,

824
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: He was one hundred and ten percent Gary.

825
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: First off, he is amazingly on a first name basis

826
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: with everybody on the field, everybody in college football, maybe

827
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 1: life in general. Yeah, knows their first name, is comfortable

828
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: referring to them by their first name only. M hm,

829
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: that's the first thing, Trent, yeah, se j Yeah. Secondly,

830
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 1: we know he's a bit of an SEC cheerleader. Yeah,

831
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: as much as known.

832
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: I mean he went to Purdue, right, is not the

833
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: Purdue the cradle of SEC quarterbacks.

834
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: That's right. Took a little extra elbow grease to shine

835
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: this one up, Not gonna lie.

836
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. It went from them pivoting from well it can't

837
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 2: get it done, kicking gamer in the red zone too,

838
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 2: but this is real football exactly.

839
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: The pivot was seamless. Yeah, found it within himself somehow

840
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: early in this game to gush about both offenses. Yeah,

841
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: and then with about three and a half left, just

842
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, like, oh, it's so good to see

843
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: good defense.

844
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Ironically enough, moving the goalposts would have helped Alabama significantly. Sorry, Gary,

845
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: I I it's not that it's a new found appreciation,

846
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: but it was just nice to go back and take

847
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: a dip in the vern. Lun Quist Jacuzzie, Oh god,

848
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: he I mean he screwed up a cup two three times.

849
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: I think he call he was so surprised that Jordan

850
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 2: Jefferson completed a long pass George Jefferson back goes deep

851
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: and are accepted. No, no, it's an LSU catch. He

852
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: had a couple of slip ups, but it was so

853
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: nice to have that sort of genial, enthusiastic Vern in

854
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: the booth as an always reliable narrator, unlimited shortals. My

855
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: favorite was wow, midway through.

856
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Second quarter, m some dude clearly gets hit in the

857
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: balls up and Vern calmly says, he is now singing soprano,

858
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: and nobody reacted. It was in a very hushed, revered tone.

859
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: He's now singing soprano. And then they just moved on

860
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 1: to a fumble or an interception or whatever.

861
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: There was one point and we talked about this before

862
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: we started, where there's Jarrett, there's a bad snap or

863
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: Jared Ly fumbles the snap, ball hits the ground, jarretly

864
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: picks it up, fires it into four different Alabama players

865
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: and gets picked off, and Vern kind of seeing everything

866
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: before it happened, seeing the calculus in front of him

867
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: on the whiteboard, his call is basically and the snap

868
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: on the ground, Lee picks it up, throws it interception,

869
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: just hit like he like he was on time. It

870
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: was like there was a metronome in his head like,

871
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: well I know where this is going, and it was

872
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: it was magnificent.

873
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to give our official opinion an analysis.

874
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: Were there any themes, by the way, thank you if

875
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: you were so, an overarching universal idea that sort of

876
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: made its way throughout these four quarters in over teams,

877
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: I mean, other.

878
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Than defense wins Championships and SEC SEC SEC, I.

879
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Would say there's a little bit of failing upwards in

880
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: this game. Little lane Kiff in previewing ominous Lane Kiff

881
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: in action with LSU doing basically nothing on offense and

882
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: surviving and moving on up and winning the SEC I

883
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: think pretty comfortably right. They just murdered Georgia in the

884
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game and so being the noticeably worse overall

885
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: team in this game. But I guess defense special teams

886
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: counts for a lot, so that that was a theme

887
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: to me, And it was just survival.

888
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: The the The theme was survive in advance.

889
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: We had to survive as viewers. Alabama tried its best

890
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: to survive bad special teams in red zone plague cauling,

891
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: and LSU did its best to survive in just right place,

892
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: right time. Just survive to play another down. Here we

893
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: are and you know, favorable things can happen.

894
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: Before we move on to our official opinion and analysis

895
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00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: Final Jerry Springer thoughts.

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00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, this was this worthy of the

943
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: game of the century, superlative that was applied to it beforehand.

944
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 2: Yes, it's an overtime game that comes down to a

945
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 2: field goal. You get incredible talent on one side of the ball.

946
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: My personal preference is complete football. I want to back

947
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 2: and forth. I want and you know, smart red zone

948
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: play calling. I want somebody busting a big play here

949
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: and there, even if defensively there's still sound for the

950
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: most part. And so I'm not going to say it

951
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: was perfect football. But I do ask that if you're

952
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 2: going to be a game of the century, that it's

953
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: not a blowout. Yes, hard to say it was a blowout.

954
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: Hard to say that this was in any means the

955
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: whole game. On any one play a team could have

956
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 2: scored and now we know won the game. Touchdown wins

957
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: the game.

958
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: Statistically, if you look at the box score, it was

959
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: just about dead even. Yeah, I agree with you. I

960
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: think in hindsight we look back and well we'll go

961
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: here next. It was not the most exciting game. It

962
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: was not a particularly enjoyable game for me. That's my opinion, Vacuum.

963
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: It's C minus.

964
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: Yes, just as a football game exact stakes and tension.

965
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: But games of the century do not necessarily need to

966
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: be the best games of football. Game of the century

967
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: is something that you apply in context. In the moment,

968
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: anyone could look back and say that game sucked, But

969
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: in context, in the moment in twenty eleven, this is

970
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: a big deal. It wasn't a blowout. It was statistically

971
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: dead even it went to overtime. There was a kick

972
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: that wanted. There was a rematch because it was such

973
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: a close game the first time around. That to me

974
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: seems worthy of that Moniker Game of the Century. So

975
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that.

976
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: If you watched, if you watched like an eight year

977
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: old basketball game, and they just pressed the hell out

978
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: of each other full court the entire game, and it

979
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 2: was six all going into the last thirty seconds, like,

980
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going to happen, but something somebody's

981
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: win the game. Right here, I loved it.

982
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: The next question though, yeah, did you enjoy this game?

983
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: I enjoyed elements but if you want me to answer

984
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 2: the question with the yes or no answer, my answer

985
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 2: is no.

986
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 1: My answer is no as well. And as we said

987
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: at the top, we were on Grantlin at the time, Yeah,

988
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: which for us in twenty eleven meant a whole new

989
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: group of listeners, people who hadn't heard the show before.

990
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: We had knew people coming and going every week. And

991
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: I remember you and I were pretty definitive in our

992
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: disdain for this football game. Not for the teams, not

993
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: for the outcome, nothing like that, Yeah, but just in

994
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: general the way that the game flowed, the fact that

995
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: there was so little scoring. There were a lot of

996
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: people out there who felt like we just had this

997
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: thing against good defense. I remember, I could go back

998
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: and find emails, but I.

999
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: Remember it assaults on their values.

1000
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: I remember it very clearly that there was staunch opposition

1001
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: to our unanimous viewpoint here on the show that we

1002
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: didn't like the game. We thought it was boring, we

1003
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: thought it was we thought it was an assault on offense.

1004
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy the game. I didn't enjoy the game

1005
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: on the rewatch either. It had a novelty on the

1006
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: rewatch that I appreciated, but I still didn't truly enjoy it.

1007
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: What I came away feeling was that Alabama was the

1008
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: better team. Maybe not as clearly as I stated earlier,

1009
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: but I just I felt like they were the better team.

1010
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: They didn't win the game because it couldn't make a kick.

1011
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: It was just not an enjoyable experience for me. It

1012
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: felt like it droned on and it was too long

1013
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: of a game.

1014
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: Would you have changed any one play?

1015
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: I would, oh wow, any one play?

1016
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: Any play that went fifty to fifty. You had, you know,

1017
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: LSU near the end of the game. That's a burp.

1018
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 2: Excuse me. I want to say it was Michael Ford,

1019
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: but it may have been Spencer ware a step on

1020
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 2: the sideline on his way into the end zone that

1021
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: would have been at least having a touchdown scored in

1022
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: the game. My answer is the Marquis May's double pass.

1023
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: Yes, well, that would obviously.

1024
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,399
Speaker 2: For Michael Williams to have come down with it. I'm

1025
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: sure Alabama fans are just like, yes, same, But they

1026
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: still won the National championship that year, so relax. It

1027
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 2: was such a good play call at the perfect place

1028
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: on the field, and obviously it's tough when you have

1029
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: a receiver throw potential game winning pass, but Michael Williams

1030
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: was so wide open, the throw was short. It was

1031
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 2: clearly short. Gave Eric Reid time to rip off his

1032
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 2: man and get to the ball and make the play

1033
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: and come down eventually with the ball. But I love

1034
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 2: the play call so much. Had completely forgotten about the play,

1035
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: and as the ball is in the air, I was

1036
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: so positive it was going to be a touchdown called

1037
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 2: back for something that I forgot about. Yeah, because it

1038
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: was so obviously going to be an easy touchdown for Alabama,

1039
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: and had forgotten that Eric Reid made a ridiculous play.

1040
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 2: So to me, that would have been a better outcome

1041
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: because of how much more complete Alabama's offense looked.

1042
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: I would go back and undo the Jarrett Lee interception,

1043
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: the second interception that we saw him throw in the

1044
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: third quarter, the one that was oh, that was rough

1045
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: by Mark Baron. Not only was it rough, but as

1046
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 1: you said earlier, they brought him back in to kind

1047
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: of give him a chance. And Jarret Lee the whole

1048
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: story of Jared, the character arc of him. Jordan Jefferson

1049
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: had been involved in an altercation in the offseason. He

1050
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: was suspended. Jarret Lee came in and was having a

1051
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: great season.

1052
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 2: After being much maligned at that point, and so obviously

1053
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: it didn't work out early in that game.

1054
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: He comes in and gets another chance to try and

1055
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: make his mark on this game. If he doesn't throw

1056
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: that interception there, I'm curious to see which direction this

1057
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: game has. Now. Of course LSU does go on to

1058
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: win the game in overtime, but I just wonder if

1059
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: a more confident, more able bodied passer, which is weird

1060
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: to say in Jared, yeah, but certainly more so than

1061
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: Jordan Jefferson if he's in the game. No, not with

1062
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 1: the game that was being called, but to that point, trust,

1063
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: to that point in the season though he had been

1064
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good passer. Sure, so if he had more

1065
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: of a chance, or more confidence, or more whatever to

1066
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: showcase that down the stretch, I'm curious to see if

1067
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: this game would have had a little bit of a

1068
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: different face on it.

1069
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 2: Still, the thing is in the offensive coordinating booths. In

1070
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: the offensive booths, there was nobody that said, oh, I

1071
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: see what they're doing. I say, okay, here we go,

1072
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: here's the counter move. There was none of that in

1073
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: any sort of way of success.

1074
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: It was zero dimensional chess.

1075
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: So to me, yes, having gerretly not throw interceptions would

1076
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 2: have been better. Alici ultimately wins. Maybe they score a touchdown.

1077
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe they bust something on a bad

1078
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: Alabama breakdown. But I don't think it makes a huge

1079
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: difference because I don't think they trusted him, and I

1080
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: don't think that they were able to organize an offense

1081
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 2: to drive them down the field because they just there

1082
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: was no evidence of that against Alabama twice. Now now

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00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: that we have that benefit O Katie, and that brings

1084
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 2: us to our final question. Yeah, like any good book report,

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Speaker 2: would you recommend this story to a friend, Yes, I would.

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00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 2: I think it's important, like the very like a parent

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00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: telling you, like you should read that you should watch

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00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: this movie. It's important to watch Bridge over the River

1089
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 2: Kuhi and Bridge over the REQUI is fine, but there

1090
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: are certain there are certain look backs who you're like,

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00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: I understand why it's important to see how the game

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00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: has evolved, how Alabama has gotten better. You know now

1093
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: they're running RPOs with Tua an Lsu presumably eventually you

1094
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: know they have the I think it's twenty thirteen with

1095
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: Zach Mettenberger with those receivers in Jeremy Hill, and they

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00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 2: take a huge step forward that year. I get that.

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00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say yes to understand from where we came,

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 2: from which we came whatever, watch it, but go in

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Speaker 2: knowing the context.

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Speaker 1: I approach this game the same way I approach the

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Speaker 1: Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, Now you know I'm not

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: a fan of either. Okay, but I think the value

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: in both is that you can't tell the story of

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00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: the game without including it. Of course, you can't tell

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: this story of twenty eleven without talking about the game

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: of the century, right. It was a defining moment in

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00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: the twenty eleventh season. As we outlined at the top

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00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: of the show, a lot happened in twenty eleven. You

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00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: can't tell the story of that season without talking and

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: recommending that more people learn about this football game. So

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00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: that's the first thing. But secondly, how often do we

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00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: see it, Dan, where a game is supposed to be

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00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: a defensive slug fest and it turns into a shootout

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 1: or vice versa. Right, Very rarely or more rarely than

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00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: you would think. Let's say, do these games actually live

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: up to the pregame billings?

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00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: Could be a shootout. It's twenty three seventeen.

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00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like very rarely or again, more rarely than you'd

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00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: think that ends up being the case. That was not

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00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: the case here. It was a true slug fest. It

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00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: may not have been the best offensive showing, but it

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00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: was true to form. It was true to form, So

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Speaker 1: at least in that sense, maybe not the most exciting story,

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00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: but definitely a story that needs to be rewatched, needs

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00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: to be relearned because it was a significant moment in

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Speaker 1: college football and certainly the arc of both these two teams.

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Speaker 1: As you just said, Alabama's evolved a great deal on offense.

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Speaker 1: LSU didn't evolve much on offense from this point forward,

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01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: and it did lead to the demise of less Miles.

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Speaker 2: The weird thing though, when we talk about that and

1131
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 2: the evolution, Yes, the evolution of both of these teams

1132
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: have been more creative than they were this season, and

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01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: it will go back tod analytics. Alabama finishes twentieth offensive

1134
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: points per drive this season, so a totally good, pretty

1135
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: good offense overall. LSU offensive points per drive that year

1136
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: twenty fifth, you're still talking a top ish tier, not

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01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: the top top tier. So basically it's like they could

1138
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 2: get away with lying to dad, but mom's home.

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01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: That's why it cutting out against each other. That's the

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: point that we need to underscore for sure. There wasn't

1141
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: These were not bad teams. All these teams killed everyone else. Yeah, okay,

1142
01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: but within the context of this game, you can and

1143
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: you can learn an awful lot. So that's why you

1144
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: got to recommend it to a friend.

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01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 2: I would also add as an epilogue, the number of

1146
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: times LSU crosses midfield in the National Championship is zero,

1147
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 2: zero point zero.

1148
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: Twenty one to nothing was the final when these two

1149
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: teams played in the then BCS National Championship game?

1150
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: How many touchdowns scored in that game? One one Alabama

1151
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 2: in a twist a surprising shocker, makes a bunch of

1152
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: field goals, and I think the touchdown they do score

1153
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: is at the very end a longer Trent Richardson run.

1154
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: So the epilogue for these two teams is that, and

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01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: then the epilogue for the season is if you remember,

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01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 2: not only was that November wild from this game from

1157
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 2: Paterno being fired. I think Ohio State loses to Penn

1158
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: State in the first game without Joe Paterno, right, it's

1159
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: a twenty to thirteen, twenty to fourteen game. Matt McGloin,

1160
01:01:54,760 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 2: Braxton Miller, Stefan Green, oh Man, Stefan Green, Silas, Red

1161
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: Penn State victory.

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Business decision, Yeah.

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01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: Business decision, Silas. And then three weeks after this game,

1164
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: you have the weekend of just of the last what

1165
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: ten years or something like that, it might be the

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 2: best college football weekend we've had in terms of upsets

1167
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: and wild and crazy events. So Oklahoma State loses on

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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 2: Thursday night to Iowa State as a top number two

1169
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 2: a team in the country. Oregon loses to USC thirty eight,

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01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: thirty five. I was there. It was not cool, not cool.

1171
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: I watched the RG three buzzer beater against Oklahoma where

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01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 2: he throws across the field in the Oregon press box,

1173
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: and that was cool.

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01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: That was cool.

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01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: That was definitely cool. Unranked NC State and that's Mike

1176
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 2: Glennon in the original original Junkyard Jim Washington. That's right,

1177
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: comfortably beats number seven Clemson. Unranked NC State bas now

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01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: top ten Clemson. And then I just mentioned it was

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01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 2: the Ohio State Penn State game where I want to

1180
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: say Matt McGloin and Braxton Miller combined to go like

1181
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: fifth team of forty. It was not it's set quarterbacking

1182
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 2: in the Big ten back a little bit. That was

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01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. That was a Jay Paterno offense.

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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: That was fred hd Yeah, and you know what, it

1185
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: was actually a pretty good Bowl season as well. We

1186
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: talked about BCS this relic of the past. But outside

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: of the twenty one to nil Alabama win, which was

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of a boring game, more of a boring game

1189
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 1: than what we saw here, we had some interesting storylines.

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01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 1: Two of the other four BCS games went to overtime,

1191
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: Michigan over Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl. We had

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01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State win forty one to thirty eight over Stanford

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01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,840
Speaker 1: in the Fiesta. I remember that game. Yep. We had

1194
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 1: Oregon over Wisconsin in the Was that Russell Wilson that year?

1195
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: That was Russell Wilson. That was Monty Monte ball that

1196
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 2: where he tried to hurdle somebody at Oregon and didn't work.

1197
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: And when a hurdle doesn't work, something hurts. Something like

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01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: Verne would point out somebody singing Prime singing pan. I

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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: was at that game. It was great. That was the

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01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 2: fumble on the sideline, but the ball doesn't go out

1201
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 2: of bounds, and Chip Kelly's like pointing at it.

1202
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 1: Right on the top, still in play. So Oregon wins

1203
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: that game. It was a one score game, forty five

1204
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight. And then there was that epic Orange Bowl

1205
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: where West Virginia destroyed Clemson seventy to thirty three.

1206
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: Not to pile on.

1207
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: That sort of set in motion this new Clemson dynasty

1208
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: because from that point forward things changed in a big

1209
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: way for the Clemson Tigers.

1210
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 2: Sure that's the higher of vnables. Yeah, if they get

1211
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 2: rid of Kevin Steele, you got your classic fight Hunger Bawl.

1212
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 2: Where I think it was it was Illinois UCLA and

1213
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 2: either I forget who was like five and six but

1214
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: got in because of good grades. There was something like that.

1215
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,440
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember the other games I'm looking at

1216
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: this list. Rutgers was not only in, but wins a

1217
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: bowl game. They win the pin Stright Bowl. Michigan State

1218
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 2: scores thirty game, thirty points in a single game. If

1219
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: you can believe it, you have Florida State Notre Dame,

1220
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 2: and that's the Champs Sports Bowl, and that's the it's

1221
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: a muddy monsoony mess.

1222
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 1: But that was the start of the upswing for a

1223
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: young Irish team. I remember watching that gameid ej Manuel, Yes,

1224
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: I think so okay, But I remember watching that game

1225
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 1: and thinking, this is the start of something for Notre

1226
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: Dame and it you know, well, we won't go too

1227
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: into Notre Dame, but that was a good showing for them.

1228
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: And then you have Texas col in the Holiday Bowl

1229
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: with Mac Brown's son in law interfering with the live ball.

1230
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 2: This was an unbelievable post. Do you want to feel old?

1231
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm ready.

1232
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: Arkansas went ten and two that season. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas,

1233
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Wilson, Jerrius Wright, Arkansas. They won the Cotton Bowl

1234
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: over number eight k State twenty nine to sixteen. What

1235
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 1: a world.

1236
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Penn State loses to Houston and

1237
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 2: the Ticket City Bowl is what I'm seeing right here.

1238
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: That is correct. That was a tumultuous year for Penn State.

1239
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 2: It was a tumultuous year. Wow, Wow, what a what

1240
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 2: just what a year. We covered some ground here, man,

1241
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 2: I am excited by this show. I'm ready to do

1242
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: it again next year. All right, Well hit three Oregon

1243
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: State zero or we could talk.

1244
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: About the sample.

1245
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 2: If you want, let's pick Let's do like TCU Baylor

1246
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: twenty four. Whatever the sixty one to fifty eight is here,

1247
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: Let's just go the opposite way.

1248
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay, right in. Let us know if there are any

1249
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: games we should do our next book report on. You

1250
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: might have opportunity to do it this year. If not,

1251
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: there's a long offseason waiting for us after the twenty

1252
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,880
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Speaker 1: July fourth holidays.

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Speaker 2: Got a lot of opinions, thoughts, and things to say.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so fun times ahead as we now enter the

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Speaker 1: doing two a week previews.

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Speaker 2: right now. Palms only, Palms.

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