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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. It is Tuesday of

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Speaker 1: Week two.

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Speaker 2: J P.

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Speaker 1: Shadwick, Kai Stevens, John Ozer recapping the Jaguars win over

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts for the final time. Then a little

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Speaker 1: sneak preview coming up of the Kansas City Chiefs, the

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Speaker 1: world champions come to EverBank Stadium this Sunday. Let's put

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Speaker 1: a bow on this Jaguars win over the Colts and

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson talked about it after the game. He talked

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Speaker 1: about it again on Monday. A full team effort, all

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Speaker 1: three phases contributed to the win in one way or another.

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Speaker 1: Special team's punt return was big for Agnew The defense

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Speaker 1: really was the star of the day, and then the

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Speaker 1: offense had their moments and made some big plays and

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Speaker 1: cashed in touchdowns to overtake the Colts.

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Speaker 3: At the end.

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Speaker 1: John, and Hey, sometimes that's what it takes. You talked

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Speaker 1: about it all week coming into it. It might be

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Speaker 1: a fight to the end, and it certainly was.

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Speaker 4: The good teams in this league win this way. You

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Speaker 4: didn't play your best. I don't think they're satisfied with it.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of mistakes and they won a

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Speaker 4: division game on the road. They're in first place in

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Speaker 4: the division, nobody's tied with them, and they have a

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Speaker 4: road win already. They won by ten points, and we're

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Speaker 4: complaining about a thirty one point game from the offense

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Speaker 4: and a ten point margin total.

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Speaker 5: So I guess it's a new era of Jaguars football.

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Speaker 2: You guys were on the opposite side of things for

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Speaker 2: a while, so, you know, playing close and then not

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Speaker 2: coming away with victory. Obviously, you know that frustration. So

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Speaker 2: now this is a good problem to have where you

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Speaker 2: get the win. Somehow it doesn't look great, but you

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Speaker 2: got the victory. I'll give John his flowers. He called

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Speaker 2: this out last week and said it was going to

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Speaker 2: be a lot tighter than we all thought and that

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Speaker 2: it was gonna probably end up being this way.

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Speaker 3: So you're a genius.

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Speaker 2: Full credit to John for being as wise as he is.

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Speaker 4: Well, I take credit where it's deserved and undeserved, So

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Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take that. But again, a lot of

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Speaker 4: anngs and a lot of fans just really angry and worried.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not weak ones weird. If you win, you're happy,

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Speaker 4: and so I think they'll be fine. I don't have

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Speaker 4: any question. The offense is going to be good at

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Speaker 4: some point this year. They'll get into a rhythm. They

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Speaker 4: didn't play their best and they won the game. JP.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yes, that's how it happens. It's not a

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Speaker 1: margin of victory, there's no the power rankings don't matter,

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Speaker 1: there's not an ap pole on mine, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But the win matters. And that's what happened on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: The defense held the Colts to a combined three of

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Speaker 1: seventeen on third and fourth down in the game, and

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Speaker 1: that was a story really for both sides, but the

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Speaker 1: defense stopping them in big moments on the fourth down conversions.

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Speaker 3: You got to get off the field in that moment.

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Speaker 2: Guy, We've been talking about the defense for months now,

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Speaker 2: and for us, I will give them all the props.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen came out like a man on fire that's

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Speaker 2: playing for a contract, and that's exactly what happened. Three sacks,

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Speaker 2: but also his tackle for loss and just like he

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Speaker 2: was in it felt like he was in on everything,

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Speaker 2: which is exactly what you want to see. Setting it

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Speaker 2: up for others. There was a couple could have been

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Speaker 2: sacks if Anthony Richardson wasn't as strong as he was

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Speaker 2: getting the ball out last second that easily could have

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Speaker 2: been you know, they had four sacks as a team

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Speaker 2: and easily could have been five, six, seven, and they

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Speaker 2: kept them in this game, right, And I think Doug

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Speaker 2: Peterson alluded to that on Monday when he was talking

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Speaker 2: to us, saying, you know, sometimes until the offense gets

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Speaker 2: to where it's going to be for the entire season,

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Speaker 2: the defense really helps you out in those first couple

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Speaker 2: of games. And we certainly saw that on Sunday against

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Speaker 2: the Colts. And if this is what they can do

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Speaker 2: when the team's in trouble, We've been talking about them

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Speaker 2: playing with the lead, how good they could be. If

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Speaker 2: they show they can be this good even when you

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Speaker 2: know keeping the team in it, this sky's the limit

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Speaker 2: for them the offense gets going to what we think

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Speaker 2: they can be.

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Speaker 4: I thought Josh Allen played like Josh Allen always does. Frankly,

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Speaker 4: he he had three sacks. He's had a lot of

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Speaker 4: games in the past where he almost had three sacks.

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Speaker 5: This time he got.

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Speaker 4: Credit for a couple and played great against the run

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Speaker 4: which I think he has been for some time. The

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Speaker 4: some big stops in the second quarter when it felt

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Speaker 4: in the second half after they gave up the Pittman touchdown.

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Speaker 4: I had the stat wrong this morning when I was

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Speaker 4: writing it. Five series they give up a total.

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Speaker 5: Of two yards.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty good until that last one where they were

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Speaker 4: already up ten, and it felt like they were just

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Speaker 4: ball back. The Colts at that point had taken a

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Speaker 4: lead on a weird play. You felt like was getting

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Speaker 4: away from five straight series.

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Speaker 5: With a total of two yards. I don't care who

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Speaker 5: you're playing the time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I can't even say, oh, Mike called,

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Speaker 4: well's this Mike.

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Speaker 5: Look.

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Speaker 4: They came up big when it mattered most. I don't

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Speaker 4: know if they'll do it again. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: they do it Sunday. It's a harder task. But within

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Speaker 4: the task of what they could accomplish on Sunday, they

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Speaker 4: were the difference.

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Speaker 2: Oh so, can we talk a little bit about like

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Speaker 2: everyone's complaining they scored thirty one points in a game

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Speaker 2: they didn't play.

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Speaker 3: Very well exactly.

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Speaker 1: And on the offensive Sidekid of your point, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: on offense were combined four of fifteen on third and

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Speaker 1: fourth downs, and we talked to Doug Peterson Monday about that.

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Speaker 1: He said, we kne where they were going to line

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Speaker 1: up just execution. We couldn't figure it out. The average

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Speaker 1: those key moments late to find the end zone.

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Speaker 2: And it feels like there was obviously mistakes. You know,

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Speaker 2: that would have been interception by Trevor, the Ridley fumble

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Speaker 2: that went out of bounds. There's things that were not great,

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Speaker 2: but they bounced back from in a way that you

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Speaker 2: like to see. Or even like Ciscot called for that

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Speaker 2: about that, he could call for the penalty and then immediately,

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Speaker 2: you know, force the fumble basically in the next possession.

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Speaker 2: It's it's that bounce back and that resiliency. Obviously we've

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Speaker 2: to have that continued and in various positions, that's what

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Speaker 2: you want to see in a winning team because things

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Speaker 2: don't go your way, specifically when you're on the road,

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Speaker 2: specifically in week one, in situations like that. But it's

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Speaker 2: the bounce back, it's the Doug continuing to go forward

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Speaker 2: and fourth down no matter what the situation is. It's

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Speaker 2: it's the way they're going about it that has to

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Speaker 2: give you, you know, the good feelings and good promise going forward.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the third and fourth down conversions was key,

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Speaker 4: especially with the Jaguars offense, and to me, that's week

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Speaker 4: one stuff. Doug said right after the game, you're not

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Speaker 4: going to be firing on all cylinders whatever phrase you

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Speaker 4: use in week one, even two and three, you're trying

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Speaker 4: to get going that I think that's an offshoot of

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Speaker 4: the way the preseason is.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: You know there's no contact, you're not quite ready to

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Speaker 4: go quite yet. So I think again, I just think

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Speaker 4: with Trevor Lawrence, with this offense, they are going to

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Speaker 4: hit a groove and get things really really going. I

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Speaker 4: don't worry about that side of the ball being efficient

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Speaker 4: to scoring a lot of points to score thirty one

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Speaker 4: when they didn't really have that a game to do

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Speaker 4: it on the road against gust did a nice job

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Speaker 5: I think Bucky Brooks talked about it a lot last

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Speaker 5: weeks that they were.

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Speaker 4: Going to have to be patient, it was going to

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Speaker 4: be clunky, you were going to have to wait and

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Speaker 4: get it going. What a key thing, and so many

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Speaker 4: fans get frustrated when the running game doesn't work, and

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Speaker 4: then the deluge of emails. They got to take play

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Speaker 4: calling duties away from press. They're giving away series. If

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Speaker 4: you're going to run in the NFL, you have to

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Speaker 4: have the patients to belie leave in it, even when

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Speaker 4: it gets one, one and three on a series and lo.

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Speaker 5: And behold sixty one yards in the fourth quarter. I

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Speaker 5: think it was.

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Speaker 3: Including that long touchdown from ETN at the end.

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Speaker 4: You don't get the bigs B run that set up

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Speaker 4: the touchdown and the ETN run if you quit on it.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And also Doug touched a little bit on this

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Speaker 2: when we heard from him. Just his philosophy with the

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Speaker 2: you're like, gotta let him learn and Tank learned, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure from failure at points, Yes, Sunday, excuse me. And

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Speaker 2: it's easy to say that, yeah, we want them to

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Speaker 2: learn now rather than you know in January. But sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's painful to watch, right, You're like, what are you

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Speaker 2: doing out there? But you can't shy away from it.

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Speaker 2: Doug certainly doesn't, and I think it'll benefit them in

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Speaker 2: the long run for sure.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this in tanks defense, and I know two errors.

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Speaker 4: The catch was not that easy, no, I mean he

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Speaker 4: was kind of twisting.

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Speaker 5: I get that. She I get there lived to the interception.

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Speaker 4: I don't necessarily think that every back in the league

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Speaker 4: makes that play easily.

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Speaker 5: So you know, and then the fumble.

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Speaker 4: I get there's some situational some situational awareness there. But

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Speaker 4: I'll bet if if you really asked all other ten

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Speaker 4: Jaguars players aside from Trevor Lawrence on that play, if

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Speaker 4: they would have acted that much different.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There wasn't a lot of physical cues for anybody else

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Speaker 4: Play where the whole vibe felt like it was over

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Speaker 4: and every every player around You imagine yourself from that

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Speaker 4: moment you catch the ball and you see the offensive

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Speaker 4: line acting like incomplete pass because it was kind of.

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Speaker 2: A you know, you probably didn't see it either necessarily,

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Speaker 2: so so go with the cues of what you're seeing.

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Speaker 5: He'll learn.

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Speaker 4: My guess is next time he's in that situation, he'll

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Speaker 4: be running, or he'll be down, or he'll be punching.

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Speaker 5: You know, something's going I think, but I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Trevor said after the game.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of unfortunate that it happened to a rookie

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Speaker 4: because a lot of guys would have probably done the

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Speaker 4: same thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they'll just blame it on the rookie thing.

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Speaker 3: It's really not it's a it was just a od.

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Speaker 5: It was just weird, really odd play.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars got a done though thirty one to twenty one

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Speaker 1: win over the Indianapolis Colts Division win everybody else in

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Speaker 1: the AFC South loss of the Jaguars are in first place.

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Speaker 1: When we return a preview of the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 1: coming to town on Jaguars Reporters. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters podcast. JP Shadwick, John Ozier, Kai Stevens. The

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Speaker 1: Jaguars coming off will win and Indy and now it's

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Speaker 1: a home game and the Chiefs Jaguars matchup is presented

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Speaker 1: by EverBank and what a game it should be.

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Speaker 3: The defending champions are in town.

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Speaker 1: The team that knocked the Jaguars out of the playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year beat them twice in fact, once in the

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Speaker 1: regular season or Narrowhead as well. The Jaguars have now

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Speaker 1: lost seven straight meetings, including the playoff game, to the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: and they're getting closer. But it's the Chiefs team that

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Speaker 1: is the gold standard of the AFC these days, with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the play caller and the weapons that

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Speaker 1: go with it. They may not be as stout in

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Speaker 1: terms of weapons as they were a few years ago,

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Speaker 1: but they're still coming off a Super Bowl when they

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Speaker 1: have horses to do it. The big question this week

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Speaker 1: is will two of those weapons be available. Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 1: tight end with a knee issue going into game number one.

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Speaker 1: He did not play against the Lions. He'll have a

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Speaker 1: little extra time to see if he's available. And then

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones, the fantastic defensive tackle, is in a contract

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Speaker 1: dispute and we'll see if that even gets resolved. It

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Speaker 1: might be even too late at this point for him

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Speaker 1: even if he were to resolve it to be ready

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Speaker 1: to play on Sunday. Those are questions that aside. There's

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Speaker 1: still the Chiefs and They're still a powerful, powerful football team.

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Speaker 4: John, Yeah, And it feels frankly, if you weren't close

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Speaker 4: to the Jaguars and just looking at this nationally, this

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Speaker 4: feels like a game that the Super Bowl champs figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to get because it's Mahomes, because it's

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Speaker 4: you know, it's the way it works.

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Speaker 5: They lost for me.

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Speaker 4: For the Jaguars, it if you win this, boy, what

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Speaker 4: a blow you deliver and what a.

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Speaker 5: Statement you make. Are they ready to do it?

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Speaker 4: I don't know a mature team that's really really ready

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Speaker 4: and ready to flex does it.

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Speaker 5: We'll find out Sunday. If they're that team.

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Speaker 2: The opportunity is certainly there. As we discussed obviously, sending

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs to be zero and two, you get a

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Speaker 2: tiebreaker and seating looking ahead, it would be huge. And

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Speaker 2: on paper they have what I always say is like

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Speaker 2: that first that first on the road game where it's

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Speaker 2: you know, it's either in Florida where it's really hot,

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Speaker 2: or it's against the team you play all the time,

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Speaker 2: like we just experienced against Indianapolis. There's always something weird

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Speaker 2: about those games. Obviously we've gone through that in Week

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Speaker 2: one already, but it just feels like it might be

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Speaker 2: that way, and I know everyone's probably like, don't drink

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Speaker 2: it or whatever, because I know all our Jacksonville fans

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Speaker 2: are a little superstitious at times. But it just feels

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Speaker 2: like it's there for the opportunity. It's there for the taking.

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Speaker 2: If they don't win, it will be because the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: don't execute. I don't know if it necessarily know if

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Speaker 2: it's going to because Mahomes does Mahomes things. I think

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Speaker 2: it will be up there for the Jags to take.

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Speaker 1: And there's been times in the past John to her point,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Jags which have been outmanned. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel like that anymore. They have a roster that can

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Speaker 1: hang with most teams, even the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they can hang with them.

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Speaker 3: Bills beat them last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and without Kelsey it's a different offense.

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Speaker 5: It's there.

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Speaker 4: You're also playing what might be an all time quarterback. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: which always you say Mahomes won't do Mahomes things.

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Speaker 5: He does those things a lot.

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Speaker 4: And those guys are tough to knock out even when

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Speaker 4: you've got them in your site. So it's a mammoth

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Speaker 4: challenge and Jaguars can do it, and that's you know,

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Speaker 4: it's only Monday. I don't yet have the vision locked

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Speaker 4: in like I did last week. It's going to be

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Speaker 4: a dynamite, fun week and it's why you like being

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Speaker 4: around this.

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Speaker 1: It's what everybody's been waiting for since the divisional playoff

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Speaker 1: loss last year in Kansas City, the Jaguars entertaining the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. By the way, the Chiefs have not

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Speaker 1: started h to two since twenty fourteen. Alex Smith was

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, Doug Peterson was the offensive coordinator of that team.

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Speaker 1: They did rally and finish nine and seven that year.

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Speaker 1: By the way, It's been a while though, since an

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Speaker 1: oh and two start in Kansas City, and there would

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Speaker 1: be a lot of question marks around the NFL of

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Speaker 1: what is going on with the Chiefs if that were

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Speaker 1: to happen. Let's make it happen. Jaguars entertaining the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: You ready for your first big.

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Speaker 2: Home game, Kai, I'm hydrating already. As I said last week,

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Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned, but I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: It does have that feel for fans who remember New

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Speaker 4: England eighteen hot I think it was weak two.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna have that sort of feel.

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Speaker 4: That's the most energy that I had felt in this

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Speaker 4: stadium until the last two games of last year, so

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Speaker 4: I anticipate that same atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: It'll be cool, sounds good to be. We'll see everybody

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Speaker 1: this Sunday. That's John Oser, Kai Stevens. I'm JP Shaddrick.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time on Jaguars Reporters