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Speaker 1: know we sent you. What is going on everybody? John

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Speaker 1: Middlecock Three and Out Podcast coming to you live from Scottsdale, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: A little hot today, but you know, they make this

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Speaker 1: beautiful day. It's about two thirty Pacific Standard time. I

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Speaker 1: guess we've got a Monday night's football game going. I

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Speaker 1: realized when I recorded my podcast yesterday there was a

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Speaker 1: night game on. And then I realized, well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: is anyone really watching these preseason games? And I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: Greg Olsen is actually really good. Uh. Enjoyed. I was

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Speaker 1: rooting for Hardball to lose a game. He never loses

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Speaker 1: twenty second straight preseason game. That's insane. Um, not that

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Speaker 1: I was. I mean again, I'm watching people I've never

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Speaker 1: heard of, but I did. What like why Kyler call

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Speaker 1: some plays? Big show today. If you listen on Collins Feed,

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Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those d M s. I plan

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Speaker 1: on doing one on this show. We'll just see how

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Speaker 1: long we go for. Um, got a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: and uh, some college football stuff as well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that game Like if Baker Mayfield and I know that

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Speaker 1: making that trade for Jalen Ramsey. I understood it, especially

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Speaker 1: because you know Jalen Ramsey premium position, you know, one

427
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Speaker 1: of the better corners in the league, and top corners

428
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Speaker 1: just don't consistently come into the NFL. But here's a thing,

429
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Speaker 1: and I saw Howie Roseman say this, I think during

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Speaker 1: the O t A s maybe maybe it's during the draft,

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Speaker 1: not to me personally, he said in a press conference,

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Speaker 1: and I remember it really resonated with me. Said, every

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Speaker 1: team in the league has the same amount of assets,

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Speaker 1: every team in the league has the same amount of

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Speaker 1: salary cap space, and every team in the league has

436
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Speaker 1: the same amount of draft capital. Well, not the Miami

437
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: Dolphins because they got doctor pick. But you just get

438
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Speaker 1: to choose how to use it. Now you'd be like, well,

439
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Speaker 1: not everyone has a first or second round pick. Not

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Speaker 1: everyone is saying no, I mean that the Niners don't

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Speaker 1: have first round picks because they use them to trade up.

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00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: Denver is gonna have less first round picks because they

443
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Speaker 1: used him to get Russell Wilson right Seattle and the

444
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Speaker 1: Jets have more picks because they traded players for those picks.

445
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Speaker 1: So you get to choose how you allocate your resources

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Speaker 1: and or your capital, especially your draft capital. And same

447
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Speaker 1: with your money. I can choose to pay linebackers, lineman, quarterback,

448
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: rookie quarters, like whatever. You get to choose how you

449
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Speaker 1: want to pick and choose your team. But if we

450
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Speaker 1: start from scratch, every team has the same amount of

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Speaker 1: picks and same amount of salary cap. And the best

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Speaker 1: part about the NFL, unlike Baseball, every team has the

453
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Speaker 1: same amount of money right because of the media rights

454
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Speaker 1: steals that pays for the salary cap. So unless needs idea,

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Speaker 1: like I get what he's saying, he chose to use

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Speaker 1: two first round picks to go get Jalen Ramsey. That's

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Speaker 1: how he wanted to allocate those first round picks. Here's

458
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Speaker 1: the problem, though, is part of when you trade for

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Speaker 1: a player. And roe Kuan Smith recently whoa waived the

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Speaker 1: white flag. He does not want to be there. I

461
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Speaker 1: mean I have pretty good sourcing on that. Ro Kuan

462
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Speaker 1: Smith over the Bears heard from a couple of people.

463
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Speaker 1: Bears offer wasn't bad, was very aggressive. He does not

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Speaker 1: want to play there. Don't blame him. I'd want to

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Speaker 1: get out of there. I have a bunch of people

466
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Speaker 1: that are like middle Coff. You never say his name right.

467
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I I can't take uber fuse, and

468
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: everyone's like it's even flus, Like when the guy wins

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Speaker 1: six games, I'll say his name right. I don't think

470
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Speaker 1: there's a team in the league that would have hired

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Speaker 1: the guy to be their head coach. So yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not anti Bears, I'm pro Bears. I wish they

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Speaker 1: were a good franchise. To me, they kind of feel

474
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Speaker 1: like a clown show. Roquan Smith, I think knows this

475
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Speaker 1: wants out, but he's kind of stuck. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to go anywhere. And even he like I think,

477
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Speaker 1: tweeted like this is my last year and then I'll

478
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Speaker 1: bet on myself Roquan, They'll franchise tag you. This is

479
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Speaker 1: not the NBA or Major League Baseball. This is a

480
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: this is a front office and team led league. That's

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Speaker 1: why it's thriving. You're not gonna be just They're not

482
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Speaker 1: gonna let you walk, you know. And the problem is

483
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Speaker 1: that he's plays been a linebacker. Unlike Jalen Ramsey. He's

484
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Speaker 1: not gonna get traded for two first round picks because again,

485
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Speaker 1: you pay, you trade for ro Quan, then I gotta

486
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Speaker 1: pay him. Now. You can be like I would much

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Speaker 1: rather have ro Kuan Smith than Jamal Adams, and Jamal

488
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Speaker 1: Adams went for two ones and two. I think we

489
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Speaker 1: all agree it's one of the worst deals in NFL history.

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Speaker 1: It's it's team. If Seattle can get a redo, I'll

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Speaker 1: promise you they take a redo. They can't. It's not

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Speaker 1: that there's uh no have backs, right, they're stuck. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing is that part of having a first

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Speaker 1: round pick, whether it's the number two pick in the

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Speaker 1: in the draft or it's the thirty first pick, is

496
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Speaker 1: getting a guy on a cost controlled contract. Because when

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Speaker 1: I when I have a first round pick, let's just

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Speaker 1: say it's pick nineteen, I know the exact contract and

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Speaker 1: I know how long i'll have the guy for. And

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Speaker 1: when you make a trade for Jalen Ramsey Khalil Mack,

501
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: you do then have to trade a lot and then

502
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Speaker 1: you have to compensate the player. Now those two players,

503
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Speaker 1: for example, are Pro Bowl level guys, high level guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it. But what if I can

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Speaker 1: get a Pro Bowl impact level guy with my first

506
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Speaker 1: round pick, then I have him on a cost control deal.

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00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: I have way more salary cap space. Now we're less

508
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: needed worked out. His last two big trades have been

509
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Speaker 1: for Super Bowl winning quarterback and a Pro Bowl level corner.

510
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: But when you're making these trades, it is two fold

511
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Speaker 1: because I trade for the player and then I have

512
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Speaker 1: to compensate them. Like the Eagles. For example, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: they would love a redo on the Jalen Reagor pick.

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty obvious. If they could do that

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Speaker 1: one over, I got news for you. They would take

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Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. And if they had taken Justin Jefferson, they

517
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Speaker 1: would have had a guy on a cost control deal,

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Speaker 1: they wouldn't have had to trade their first round pick

519
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Speaker 1: and then pay a J. Brown all that money. But

520
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: because they listen, we all miss on picks in your

521
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: fantasy draft, or if you're a real NFL general manager.

522
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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming anybody. It just didn't work out and

523
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Speaker 1: they had to double down a couple of years later.

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Speaker 1: But when you do that, it's a double whammy because

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Speaker 1: you give up a valued pick and you pay the

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Speaker 1: guy a lot of your salary cap space. So this

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Speaker 1: the entire part of the draft process every team in

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Speaker 1: the league, and you just never know. The draft is

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Speaker 1: the great unknown, right, and you can nail a pick,

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Speaker 1: like in the late second round you get DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 1: Even Seattle, if they knew DK Metcalf was gonna be

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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, you know what they would have done. They

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Speaker 1: would have drafted him in the first round. Right. The

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Speaker 1: same thing with the Titans and a J. Brown. You

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Speaker 1: just you never truly know. But once you have that,

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Speaker 1: you go, god, I'm glad we picked them because now

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Speaker 1: we're getting them for really cheap. And even once you've

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Speaker 1: got to extend the guy, like the forty Niners or

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00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: Seattle they just gave both those two guys extensions. Well,

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Speaker 1: when you look over the totality of the deal, right,

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Speaker 1: those first three years were so cheap, So if you

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Speaker 1: amortize it, not on the brand new three or four

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00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: year deals, but over the life of the seven eight

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Speaker 1: years you have the player, it's an incredible, incredible financial

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Speaker 1: reward for being a good drafting team. So it's just

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Speaker 1: it's part of what makes the league fun. All these

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Speaker 1: different team philosophical beliefs, and the Rams have been really successful.

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Speaker 1: You would think eventually, though, and I've always said this,

549
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Speaker 1: they get some injuries with at the top, not with

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Speaker 1: just random guys, but with their top four or five

551
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: core players, they would be in some trouble. And you

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Speaker 1: would say, the last several years, I mean Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, Jalen like, they have been relatively healthy at

554
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Speaker 1: the top. I wanted to fire around just a bunch

555
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: of different league stuff. I saw people tweeting about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett had another good preseason game against backups, but

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Speaker 1: you know, everyone's listen. I'm not a big Kenny Pickett guy,

558
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Speaker 1: but we'll see the Steelers. Anytime you can go to

559
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Speaker 1: a team that has an excellent defense and good skill guys,

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Speaker 1: you have a chance even if you're not the most

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Speaker 1: talented guy. But I'm betting against him. Just don't see

562
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Speaker 1: the skill set could be wrong. Adam Schefter, I think

563
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: sinuated on television that, like you know, if if all true,

564
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: whisky has to have a little slip up and then

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Speaker 1: it's Canny Pickett's time. I I would say it's fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty no inside information on this, that the Steelers just

567
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: pull a Mac Jones from last year. Remember Mac Jones,

568
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: the backup, the backup, the backup until he started Week one,

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Speaker 1: And I think that has to be in play now

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Speaker 1: that I am prepared for Mike Tomlin to come out,

571
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Speaker 1: because what's the competitive disadvantage or advantage for the Steelers

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Speaker 1: to announce Canny Pickett the quarterback until they have to

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Speaker 1: and it'll just news could break week one. I would

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Speaker 1: expect for uh, if it does happen, that to get

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Speaker 1: announced weak one, and I think that's on the table now.

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Speaker 1: I saw Jordan's love I I didn't watch, actually didn't

577
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Speaker 1: watch any of the Packer game. I actually thought in

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Speaker 1: his first preseason game he made some good plays, some

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Speaker 1: balls were dropped. He also made some terrible plays. You

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Speaker 1: do see just the fistical attributes, the athleticism, the arm strength.

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00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: I saw the floor said he played a lot better

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00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: in the second preseason game and has been high on him. Uh, listen,

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Speaker 1: anytime you can have a cheap backup quarterback and it's

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Speaker 1: not like he would fetch a high pick. The Packers

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00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: gotta feel better and better if he just improves because

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00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere, because it doesn't behoove them to

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Speaker 1: trade Jordan's love for like a fourth round pick. He's

588
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: actually become, if he plays well at this point in time,

589
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: more valuable to the Packers than he is around the league.

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00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: So listen, you gotta take little wins where you can

591
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: get them when it comes to, you know, backup quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: If if I'm the Packers, it's probably turned into somewhat

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Speaker 1: of a positive. I think the Raiders and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: must be I've i havent checked the preseason schedule for

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Speaker 1: a week three, but Belichick is at the Raiders facility,

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00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: meaning the Patriots are, and was just speaking how awesome

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Speaker 1: it is. So I would have guessed that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do some joint practice this week. Belichick o coach in

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00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: the league loves joint practices quite like Bill Belichick, and

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00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick said that Al Davis would be on his

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Speaker 1: football Mount Rushmore. I don't know if his football Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 1: He just said he was the foot he should be

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00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: a football Mount Rushmore guy. And I was thinking, like,

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Speaker 1: what would my football Mount Rushmore be? Non player? I

605
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty easy. Actually, I think Vince Lombardi

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Speaker 1: has to go on it. I think Bill Walsh has

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Speaker 1: to go on it. I would also throw Al Davis

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Speaker 1: on there, just because I wouldn't throw owners on there.

609
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: But he's a unique owner. He was the general manager,

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Speaker 1: and if you talk to people close to the Raiders,

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: he also acted as the pseudo defensive coordinator for a

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Speaker 1: large percentage of the operation. I think he has seven

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00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: or eight introductions at the Hall of Fame. Why because

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Speaker 1: the players know that he personally selected them, and a

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00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: lot of the defensive guys would he coach know that

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Speaker 1: he personally implemented this scheme. So I would have Lombardi, Walsh,

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Speaker 1: Al Davis. Then I think for four it gets kind

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Speaker 1: of interesting. I wouldn't call myself a football historian, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not dumb enough to know that Paul Brown would

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Speaker 1: be in the mix. I think you could easily put

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick as the fourth guy and the other guy

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Speaker 1: that I would have in the mix for the fourth. Overall,

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Speaker 1: the reason that the NFL is on top and dominates

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00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: now as a league is a ten billion dollar a year.

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00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: I love when and Colin talks about this a lot,

626
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: how attendance is down in the NFL and college football,

627
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: and my response always is, who gives a ship? It's

628
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: not This isn't Major League Baseball. I don't need butts

629
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,280
Speaker 1: in the seats. That's just extra free money for the owner.

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Speaker 1: The league is a television product. It's a television show.

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Speaker 1: And the most important person in the history of NFL

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Speaker 1: television is John Madden. Change the game and in a

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Speaker 1: factor in the video game too, his importance to the

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00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: popularity of football. I do think you could throw John

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Speaker 1: Madden on there. Now. I'd probably put Belichick above John

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Speaker 1: Madden and probably Paul Brown as well, but I do

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Speaker 1: think that John Madden would have to be in the

638
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Speaker 1: discussion when it came to football non players Mount Rushmore, uh,

639
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: I saw Cavon sprained his mcl A lot of arguing

640
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: on the internet streets like you can't cut him. Yeah,

641
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: the guy went low like. Part of being a defensive

642
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: lineman is learning to play cut blocks. I do not

643
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: think the play was dirty. Is it ideal in a

644
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: preseason game? Of course not. I do think it looked

645
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: like he slipped a little bit. But then I saw

646
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: my guy Jeff Schwartz on Twitter earlier today there was

647
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: a play where a defensive lineman tackled a running back

648
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: really low. Like it's football. You know, part of anyone

649
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: who has been to a Division one practice and definitely

650
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: an NFL practice knows that linebackers and defensive lineman do

651
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: drills to playoff cutball box. Now he's a rookie. I'm

652
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 1: not promoting this type blocking. I don't want to see

653
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: guys get injured, But I, by no means views that

654
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: as a dirty play. It's football. It's a football play,

655
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: and you gotta use your hands and get around that,

656
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: not take on the blocker when he's going that low. Um.

657
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: The Giants lost a guy to a torn a c

658
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Speaker 1: L and I was thinking about this today. If you

659
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Speaker 1: put the Giants like the the Denver Broncos just went

660
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: on the open market in Denver, which is obviously not

661
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: New York great football market, and Denver is an awesome franchise,

662
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: the stadium, the brand, it's big. Well, what if they

663
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: went for four point six five billion dollars? What would

664
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Speaker 1: the New York Jets go for and that's the number

665
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: two team in New York? What would the New York

666
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Speaker 1: Giants go for Let's just say the Jets would go

667
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: for six or seven and the Giants would go for eight.

668
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Speaker 1: We're talking about two franchises probably in the vicinity of thirteen, fourteen,

669
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Speaker 1: fifteen billion dollars combined. Now, if the Cowboys would probably

670
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Speaker 1: go for ten, who would be the next mix of

671
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: teams that would go eight to ten? The Giants would

672
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Speaker 1: be one of them, The Giants, the Bears, the forty Niners,

673
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Speaker 1: probably the Rams. Now that they're in l a enormous

674
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: markets with enormous brands, it's pretty clear to know. The

675
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 1: Packers and the Steelers would be interesting because their brands

676
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: are so big, but their markets, they would go for

677
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: a lot. Don't get me wrong, but my point is

678
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: that these two teams, regardless of what all the other

679
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: teams would go for, their value is enormous. These two owners,

680
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: the Mars and obviously Woody Johnson are filthy rich. Yet

681
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: the turf in that stadium. Some high schools would not

682
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: allow their teams to play on that turf. Some high schools,

683
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: if you put that turf on their stadium, would have

684
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: ripped it up immediately and put better turf. It is

685
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: a fucking embarrassment that those two teams allow that turf

686
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: to be on that field. I remember two years ago

687
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: the forty niners they played the Giants and Jets back

688
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: to back. I can't remember if it was against the

689
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Speaker 1: Jets or the Giants. It was obviously against one of

690
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 1: the teams. They played a week two and then week three,

691
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: there was a sequence in three plays Nick Bosa ripped

692
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Speaker 1: up his knee. Two plays later, Solomon Thomas ripped up

693
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Speaker 1: his knee. You watch people play on that field. They

694
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Speaker 1: go down all the time. Now, I'm not someone that

695
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: be like, you have to have grass, you can't have

696
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: field turf. I would always lean grass, but clearly some

697
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: turf is pretty good. I don't pretend to be some

698
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: guy that knows the difference levels of the turf, but

699
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: I've heard enough and talk to enough people there are

700
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Speaker 1: different levels of turf. That turf is unacceptable. They have

701
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: to get better turf. It's a joke. Uh Bill Parcel's birthday.

702
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: Just what an incredible, incredible coach four teams Uh to

703
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: the postseason? Obviously, multiple time Super Bowl Hall of Famer

704
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Speaker 1: just uh, just a legend. Uh. A couple of quick

705
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Speaker 1: college football things. Fraud Meyers I like to call Umn

706
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: has been rehired by Fox Sports one to go on

707
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: to the to their big new kickoff Listen. He didn't

708
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: last a season in the NFL. Freddie Kitchens did as

709
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: a head coach. Jim tom Sula did as a head coach.

710
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: We have seen some of the most embarrassing head coaches ever.

711
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: Last season Urban got laughed out of the room literally

712
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: an all time embarrassment. But he does know college football

713
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: and he's clearly pretty good on TV. Now when I

714
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: rehired him, I don't really care like there. To me,

715
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: it's more about like, is this guy that big of

716
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: an eagle maniac? Like you're really going back to TV

717
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: after you were laughed out of a building? You're worth

718
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: a stupid amount of money. I think it's a actually

719
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: more of a reflection like TV, they're they're just in

720
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: it to get the most eyeballs be a big deal.

721
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Speaker 1: They don't give a ship. I mean, they're about making money.

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Speaker 1: To me, Urban, did this not make you reevaluate some things?

723
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Speaker 1: Clearly not? Uh, I understand why they hired him. I

724
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: actually kind of like the show because I like Liner,

725
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I like Brady Quinn. I don't know man I. I I

726
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: think it's much more of a reflection on Urban Meyer

727
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: than it is Fox. All these networks and they don't

728
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: care that they're just they're in it for the content.

729
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian announced that yours I didn't write down his

730
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: first name. He's obviously that huge recruit that was from Texas.

731
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Speaker 1: They graduated early, they went to Ohio State and then

732
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Speaker 1: he transferred to Texas. I think Stark bought himself a

733
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Speaker 1: little time the moment he uh landed Eli or not

734
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Eli Manning or Peyton Manning, but Cooper Manning son arch.

735
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Speaker 1: I do think this is a big year for him.

736
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Speaker 1: Last year he went five and seven, say that out loud.

737
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: Five I've in seven and now he's going with the

738
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Speaker 1: quarterback that hasn't played much obviously at all. Obviously he's

739
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: really talented. He's got a huge arm. From everything that

740
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I've read and clips I've seen, but like to me,

741
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: like six and six, can they go eight and four?

742
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: Can they go eight and four? And everyone tells me

743
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: we are teams a lot better. They got the number

744
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: one running back in the country. I just I don't

745
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: know that much faith in Sark. I do think it's

746
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: pretty nuts that Alabama, who Nick Saban said last year

747
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: was a rebuilding season. Thing about that he had a

748
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: rebuilding season where he beat Georgia in the SEC Championship

749
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: game and lost a pretty damn close game in the

750
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: National Championship without his two best wide receivers. They had

751
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: four guys on the AP All American team. They obviously

752
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: have the Heisman um, the returning Heisman Trophy UH winner

753
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: in the quarterback who is fantastic. They have who I

754
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: think is the best player in college football, Will Anderson.

755
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 1: So think about this. Their best two positions are quarterback

756
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: and pass rusher, two most important things in modern day football,

757
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: and then their next to sweep positions. They have an

758
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: elite corner and elite safety. So it's pretty clear they

759
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: got a guy who is gonna pass rush the ship

760
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: out of every team they play, and two dbs they

761
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: can fly around and make plays NonStop. And then they

762
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: have elite corner and the one thing we always know

763
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: with Alabama, They're gonna have the skill guys. So I

764
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: would expect and a lot of people are picking Alabama

765
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: to win the whole thing again this year. Uh you

766
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: would imagine, ohw State is gonna be better this year

767
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: on defense, so they should be in the mix. Georgia

768
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: gonna be loaded again. It's just the shitty part about

769
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: college football. It just feels like the same three teams again,

770
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Georgia, Obama. And I know that Michigan beat

771
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State last year, but probably a one off. Let's

772
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: just let's just be real on that one. I just

773
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: think it's insane. We are, you know, like coach K

774
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: when he retired, like that's over. Well, We're never seeing

775
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: anything like that again. I mean John Calipari has I

776
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: mean think about him, like he's probably the most famous,

777
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: even Tom Iszo. I love Tom Is. He's got one

778
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: national championship. Coach K and Nick Saban. Whenever Nick Saban

779
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: decides to retire, like the longevity of a guy just

780
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: gonna win all these natties consistently kick ass is probably done,

781
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Like Kirby is a fantastic elite coach. There's a chance

782
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: he just wins one national championship. Now you can say

783
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: the talent he's getting, but the SEC is really hard

784
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: if you told me that in five years, you know,

785
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: Kirby has gone to a couple more national championships or playoffs,

786
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: but he's only one one. I think it's believable. Now,

787
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: maybe he gets over the hump and wins another one,

788
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: but the chances that he's winning six or seven probably

789
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: not happening. Probably not happening. So obviously Dabbo is multiple,

790
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: but you even seen now it feels like they've been

791
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: passed a little bit and they're not even playing in

792
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: that great of a conference. So it's the respect and

793
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: just the admiration and just the impossibility how Nick has

794
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: done this is insane. Now, obviously, once they got so big,

795
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: they just became a machine. And what I was told

796
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: a long time ago is you know, in recruiting, you

797
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: don't choose Alabama, they choose you. Now, obviously there are

798
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: a player or two that pick and choose, and that's

799
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: why Nick's mad because in n I L Well, they

800
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: do choose because it matters the money. Impacts their Decision's

801
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: pissing nick Off, but he might rattle off one more

802
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: national championship if all this guys stay healthy. Okay, let's

803
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: do a little Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff is

804
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: the Instagram fire in those d m s and get

805
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: your question to answer here on the show Star with James.

806
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm curious to take on the local buzz in Denver

807
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 1: about Broncos head coach. The local sports news is criticized

808
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett for running a soft walk through practices and

809
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: for not starting Russ in any preseason games. Do you

810
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: think our new coach is cutting us at the knees

811
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: without the season is starting big Fan. I don't blame

812
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: him for not playing Russell in the preseason games. Now,

813
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: I do think that Russell has a lot of juice

814
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: and I mean a ton of juice on what they're

815
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: doing in practice as an organization. He's admitted it, I

816
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 1: mean told Peter King un named sources like we're partners. Now.

817
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 1: I do think that Hackett comes from Green Bay where

818
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: he just kind of watched the floor. I'm not saying

819
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: they ran a country club deal, but they were very,

820
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: very easy leading up to the season. When you have

821
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: a star quarterback, it kind of just carries. Now the

822
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: one thing that they have that's good. They have a

823
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: good offensive line and the running back they have from

824
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Javonte Jontay Williams has his name. He's a stud.

825
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: So I do think you can create physicality immediately once

826
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Speaker 1: the game start running the ball in the regular season. Question,

827
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Speaker 1: does Russell want to run the ball? Russell wants to throw.

828
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: Russell wants to become a legend. Russell wants to be

829
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady and I we'll see, man.

830
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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a little harder, you know.

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Speaker 1: I keep thinking I'm gonna pick the Chiefs and the

832
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: Chargers to make the playoffs. They're a lock to make

833
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs for me, those two teams. I think the

834
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: Raiders have a pretty good chance to make the playoffs too. Now, Denver,

835
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: in theory, should be better then the Raiders. You know,

836
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: they have an equally a bunch of solid players, some

837
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl guys in different positions. Russell is better than Derek.

838
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: But like I, I the Nate Hackett thing and the

839
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson wanting all this power makes me nervous, like

840
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: I've seen Josh being offensive coordinator forever. Like when's the

841
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: last time Nate Hackets even been an offensive coordinator in Jacksonville.

842
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be different. The one thing

843
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: Derek will do whatever Josh tells me to do, because

844
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Russ just gonna I don't know, I think it could

845
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: get weird. Now. I'm not saying Denver can't make the

846
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: playoffs or if it all goes perfectly, they could win

847
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: the division. I don't know, but I I think I

848
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: don't know. They're making me a little nervous with some

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Speaker 1: of the things coming out. I love your uncensored takes

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Speaker 1: on football. If you were, I mean, it's isn't it

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy that some people like they just kind

852
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Speaker 1: of beat around the bush. They give me their censored

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Speaker 1: football takes. Yeah, I just I just say what. I think.

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of credit for that, at least

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Speaker 1: on the d M S. I don't really know why.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I know why, because most people

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Speaker 1: do not give you. They just fraud is the wrong word.

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Speaker 1: They're just very sensitive to every little thing. I'm just

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Speaker 1: not that sensitive to anything. Uh, if you were the

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Speaker 1: Panthers GM, would you sign Baker to a long term

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Speaker 1: deal or use the franchise tag on him a season

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Speaker 1: like they did two years ago? And if Donald ends

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Speaker 1: up starting and has a good year, what would you

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Speaker 1: do with him? Baker is the betty better body of work.

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Speaker 1: This I think was sent before uh they named him

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Speaker 1: the starting quarterback. I would not do a damn thing

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Speaker 1: during the season. I would just let it play out. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen with Sam, he won't be on the

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Speaker 1: team next year. But let's just hypothetically say, well, what

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Speaker 1: if you get Baker in like a three year, you know,

871
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Speaker 1: seventy million dollar deal right now? Well, I would not

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Speaker 1: risk anything. I would just let's let it play out.

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Speaker 1: If he's good, will franchise tag him and figure it out.

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Speaker 1: If he's bad, we'll just move on and hopefully corral

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Speaker 1: with God that sucks get hurt his foot out for

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Speaker 1: the season. But yeah, I would just let it play out.

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Speaker 1: That's all I would do. Let it play out. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard of the youth football coach Mike Hickman being

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Speaker 1: murdered during the game in Texas? Well, I've just I

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00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: just saw the headline of What's his name's brother keep

881
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: to leave. Brother is wanted for murder. Maybe at this

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Speaker 1: by the time you're listening to this, they've arrested him

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Speaker 1: for shooting that guy. I I didn't read much of

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Speaker 1: the story. I mean, it's just awful. If that's the

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Speaker 1: story you're talking about, which I assume it is. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is a biased opinion from a Raider fan, but

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00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: I believe people are underestimating them. Charges got better on

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00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: both sides but haven't proven anything. Chiefs got worse but

889
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: are still the Chiefs. And I think while the Broncos

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00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: defensive elite, the Raiders have a better offense while also

891
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: getting better players on the defensive side and better coaching.

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Speaker 1: Raiders made the playoffs last year with all the chaos,

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Speaker 1: and I can see the division Chargers, Raiders, Chiefs, Broncos.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Yeah, I'm going I'm going Chiefs, Chargers, Raiders, Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Be my pick. Now. I could also see the Chargers

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Speaker 1: winning it and going Chargers, Chiefs, Raiders, Broncos. But I

897
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Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing the Broncos. I mean, coward

898
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Speaker 1: thinks they're gonna be like this, oh seven Patriots. I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, the Russell Wilson partner thing

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Speaker 1: with the coach. I'm just I'm sorry, I got that

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Speaker 1: thing red flag. Uh, what's up, Johnny. We're huge Raider

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Speaker 1: fans and have been a ton of shake up in

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Speaker 1: the a f C West this offseason. Assuming there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a three playoff teams from the division, who do

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Speaker 1: you see the odd man out? I personally don't think

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Speaker 1: the addition of russ is enough to make the Broncos

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Speaker 1: to close the gap on the Raiders, especially after adding

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Speaker 1: a premier wide receiver and pass rushing this offseason. I

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00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: also believe you're giving the Chargers too much at it.

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00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: We've heard about their talented roster for the last three years,

911
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Speaker 1: and yet it came down to a win, and you're

912
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Speaker 1: in Week eighteen and they got beat by a team

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Speaker 1: that was outmatched on paper and led by an interim coach.

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Speaker 1: Would love to hear thoughts. Well, we just talked about that, ironically.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I will say about the Chargers. They

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Speaker 1: went nine and eight last year. They added Khalil Mack,

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Speaker 1: they added the Rams defensive tackle Loose Good, and they

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Speaker 1: added J. C. Jackson that picks off a ball like

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Speaker 1: every other game, So they got to me dramatically better

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Speaker 1: on defense. Their run defense was atrocious. They added too

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Speaker 1: fantastic run players on their defensive line, and they added

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Speaker 1: an elite corner. So I do think they like to me,

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Speaker 1: if they're nine wins, even if they're under achiever, that

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Speaker 1: makes them ten or eleven wins. So I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't I think they could win fourteen wins. If

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Speaker 1: you told me Belichick Randy Reid was their coach, I'd

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Speaker 1: pick him to go sixteen and one. Now, Brandon Saley,

928
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: if he is just decent, they should win twelve games.

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Speaker 1: But even if he's just last year, they're winning tenant.

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Speaker 1: Casey fan here found your pod through column through the years.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your honest, snow bullshit takes thought the plagues major

932
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Speaker 1: players in sports media. Bravo. Casey went through a period

933
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: of time of scooping up forty Niners quarterback cast offs,

934
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Speaker 1: the burg Montana Bono Gerback good knowledge, and a few

935
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Speaker 1: years ago, I was looking to go down memory lane

936
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Speaker 1: with the first quarterback I have a memory of for

937
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, Steve de Burke. I was looking

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Speaker 1: for some highlights of the years he played with a

939
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Speaker 1: busted pinky. But instead I came across the YouTube video

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Speaker 1: talking about how in nineteen eighty the bird came down

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Speaker 1: with laryngitis and played a game for the Niners with

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Speaker 1: the speaker integrated into the back of his shoulder pads

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Speaker 1: so that he could hear the snap, so they could

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Speaker 1: hear the snap. Count crazy. He even had the little

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Speaker 1: drive through microphone tucked in under his face mask. Never

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Speaker 1: have I heard anyone talk about this nationally? Is it

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00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: spoken about frequently in San Francisco's circles? Just curious if

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Speaker 1: you had heard it. I remember seeing it. I think

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Speaker 1: on the Montana documentary as the first time that I

950
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Speaker 1: saw about it. It is not It's not something like

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Speaker 1: legend or something that matters that much. I think part

952
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Speaker 1: of the problem where that story dies a little bit

953
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Speaker 1: is because Joe Montana came in after him and just

954
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Speaker 1: became Joe Montana. But that is a fucking banana story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you lose your voice in the night and

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Speaker 1: they figure out a way to Jimmy rigg your your

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Speaker 1: pads so they everyone can hear you. Just I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's that is something Now the media be like, no,

959
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Speaker 1: it's not fair. It was voice, don't let him play?

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00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: You think Bill Walsh gave a ship? Do you think

961
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: Steve de Burgh. That's there's something special about like seventies

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Speaker 1: and eighties NFL stories. I know it makes a lot

963
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: of like the modern day elites uncomfortable, but you know

964
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Speaker 1: that's the football that made the league kind of what

965
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: it is. You know that that's where legends were made

966
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Speaker 1: in the seventies and eighties. That is type stuff. It's

967
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: why like when Jason Witten played with the Spleen or

968
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, the you know they had those issues like

969
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: you become stuff of legend. Remember Emmett Smith played an

970
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 1: NFC championship game with a separated shoulder. Uh, football, dudes,

971
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: just build different man. Okay, last one, what does your

972
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: overall feel on the a c C. They control most

973
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: of the entire East Coast college football market and have

974
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: had a couple of national champions in the last ten

975
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: years and the best basketball conference. It seems like it's

976
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Speaker 1: a popular thing to talk down on the a c C.

977
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Speaker 1: But to me, it seems like a bad business decision

978
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: at the top with the TV pals. Do you think

979
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Speaker 1: the a c C can punch back and regain some

980
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: national exposure. Well, hiring Mario at Miami is big, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's Nick Saban, but he's a big

982
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: boy recruiter and they're gonna be nationally relevant, nationally relevant fast. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Clemson had a down year last year and went ten

984
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: and three. Now, Florida State is kind of a wild card.

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Speaker 1: If that coach is good, that'd be big. If he

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a big year, Dion Sanders is gonna be

987
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: their coach next year. Dion Sanders will be there coach.

988
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: So you get Cristal Ball at Miami, you get Dabbo

989
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Speaker 1: at Clemson, and if Dion comes into Florida State, now

990
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: you're cooking. Wake Forest Actually isn't bad. North Carolina is respectable, Um,

991
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Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean Florida State, Jimbo. Obviously Clemson

992
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: wants some Natty's, but they need the Florida schools. To me,

993
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: that conference is dependent on either Miami or Florida State

994
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: for being good. And I think Miami can get back

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00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: to nine or ten wins within two years. Florida State,

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for him. You got a buddy that works

997
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: there now, But I don't know, but to me, if

998
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: Miami is good and then you got Clemson in Miami,

999
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: pit's not bad, but they need Miami. They need Miami.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to an NFL executive that told me

1001
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: that he went through some SEC schools and they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we kind of stopped recruiting Florida. I'm like why. He's like,

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Speaker 1: Mario put up a fence, and what you put up

1004
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Speaker 1: a fence and you keep the players, Like, guess who

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00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: has been going in and getting players Alabama, right, Oklahoma, Georgia,

1006
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Miami's gotta keep those guys and their heyday

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Speaker 1: they did, and I think Mario will to with the

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Speaker 1: n i OL appreciate everyone listening. Uh subscribe, share with

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Speaker 1: your friends, audios, talk to everyone through peace. The volume