WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Roster Projections 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.120 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:16.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This this he's Talking 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:29.240 Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training camp in Hawksnard, California. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:34.840 Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broms, Rob Phillips, and Bill 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:39.520 Jones and welcome end to Talking Cowboys, our final show 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:45.760 from Oxnard, California. Rob Phillips Brian brought us a festive 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:50.560 Mickey Spagnola, I like that look. I love this look. 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.840 I love that on the eve of the Cowboys journey 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:56.800 to Hawaii. These are J C. Penny shirts. I believe 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.880 they are. Yes, go get you one of those whatever 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.760 Yanning got for us. Yeah, yeah, sponsors get you tho. 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.520 I bet Bill Jones jealous of us. Yeah, it's a 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.160 great look. Micky got the tan going to you know, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.400 like you're on your own dive shop. It's Mickey's Dive 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.680 Shots warmer this morning. Yeah, I don't need long sleeves. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:18.559 Actually good for you. Well, it's you know, it's dive shot, 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.840 Mickey's dive shot. I'd tell Mickey's bar would probably be 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.039 even better. A little surfing going on, Mickey surfing conk 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.160 Chowder I like it ice cold beer. Maybe had maybe 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.640 have a w gn on. No, I've never surfed Mickey. No, 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:37.080 they'd harpooned me on the snarkle. I'll do that. I 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:38.840 don't know. You guys got a day off on Friday. 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:40.479 You could try. I'll tell you a real quick little 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:44.760 storkling story about Hawaii Wi. Do you know size fourteen shoes? 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.640 So I'm so worried we're over this this coral bed. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.120 It's like they tell me it's like a million years old, 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:53.600 one of those things. And I was so worried about 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.080 my flippers, like hitting the being too long a bottom 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.800 and hitting the coral, you know, breaking off pieces. I 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:02.160 was like, I was floating around. I was like, oh, 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.400 please don't touch the coral. Please don't touch the coral. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:09.440 I was worried that my Finn was gonna knock it. Okay, right, yeah, yeah. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:11.880 Snorkeling is the best. It is great. Yeah. I don't 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.160 think I would dive, but I can snorkel. How about it? Well, 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:19.320 it's always it's sad leaving here every year because the 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:22.040 weather is so great, everybody's so hospitable to us. A 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:23.560 lot of good work done here, and knocks start a 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.760 lot of good heart talked about that yesterday. Yeah, selfish 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.240 say it was selfish about that, you know, I want 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.359 teams coming to me and for scrimmages whatever. Yeah. And 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.800 I noticed that the intensity and practice. I thought the 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.799 assistant coaches did a good job of ramping it up, 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.240 like making sure these players didn't think, Okay, this is 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.800 over with, we're leaving. I thought these last two days 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:50.600 of practice were really really good in the and you 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.600 can see the assistant coaches were making an effort to like, Okay, 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.520 we're not letting up here. We still got work to do, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.160 and and they were very vocal, I thought, trying to 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.520 inspire the guys. So yeah, and even even the little 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.400 by play in the afternoon practice between Richard and Dak Prescott. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.560 You know, I'm not sure that just happened organically, like 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:15.519 I think they had it in their mind, Okay, we 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:18.200 gotta jack everybody up. Yeah. I think it was really 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:22.040 funny on the the last compete period at the very end, 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.120 right where they you know, where it was down to 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.360 the three plays offit scored really like on the first 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:31.680 play and Mark Colombo yelled at the defense two extra 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:35.440 point two extra points, you know, and like all those 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.920 defensive coaches were all sitting there and Mark was like 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.200 two field goal, two field goal indio and he said 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:42.880 he was laughing. He was kind of high five and 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:45.760 the defense came back. So yeah, I thought when he 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.240 yelled at that they were going to go for a 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.640 two point No, he was, he was. He was rubbing it. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.920 He was, he was rubbing it in. And by the way, uh, 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.960 the head coach said, had they scored that touchdown at 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.000 the end of the game on Saturday, they were going 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:00.280 for two, they're too Yeah, there you go. I think 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.560 I think I read on the transcript that Kyle Shanahan 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.880 would have really been disappointed in that decision. Yeah, he 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.080 would have. Well, good, maybe the Cowboys were disappointed. He 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.240 didn't play any of his players. Yeah, that's okay, fair enough, 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.520 it's preseason, that's right. It was. Brian always say to 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.920 Woody Wou and everybody out there in periscope, only worry 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:20.080 about what you can control. That's right, that's right. Don't 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:25.120 worry about Woody Wou and everybody in periscope. Good mor 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.080 mat us. Yeah, questions whatever you have for getting to 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.080 the championship game. He shouldn't like complain about anything. Yeah, 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:37.760 fair enough. All right, So speaking of we're not letting 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:47.000 up intensity, all right? Uh. Contract talk, Jerry met with 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.520 the media. He's only done in a handful of time 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:53.000 since he's been out here, about ten twelve minutes, mostly 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:57.120 about dak Zeke and Amari. Yeah, what did you take 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.880 from that discussion after practice? I don't think any things changed. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.440 I don't think they feel like their backs are against 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.040 the wall. And it kind of furthered what he said 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.599 on the pregame show when I asked him about the 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:15.240 contracts and I specifically said those three and he said, well, 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:17.360 all I know is I'm working on six of them. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.320 So he kind of reiterated the deal about we've got 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.920 to sign a lot of guys and the market doesn't 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.200 mean anything to me. What means to me is getting 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:32.240 my guys signed as a team. And I think he 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.360 used the analogy of DeMarcus Ware. Yeah. I was going 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.279 to ask you guys about that if you had a 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.000 thought about how he explained that to you, And what 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.480 was the translation the Jerry whisper on that there. Well, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.640 I mean he started it off with saying, I don't 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.920 have the responsibility of dealing with the market. I got 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:52.520 to realize I could let a DeMarcus ware out of 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:56.400 here because I don't have enough money because I paid 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.160 it to many others. There you go. And so that's 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.800 his analogy of I give it all to these guys, 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:05.200 then the other guys that I'm trying to sign ain't 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.160 gonna get done. And he didn't. He and he raised 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:10.400 the possibility of one of those other guys getting done 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.080 before the start of the season. I have a feeling 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.400 Rob's gonna make quizzes on that a little bit here. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.600 Any thoughts on who that might be. I mean, we 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:20.279 threw out a few names in our recap yesterday on 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.680 the website, guys that are either restricted or unrestricted after 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.400 this season currently who are not in the quote unquote 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:32.000 big three, like the roster Jalen Smith. There's one Layl 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:38.359 Collins yet, mcleake Collins. Yeah. Uh. Anthony Brown Byron Jones 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:43.360 Byron Jones, Yeah, absolutely so yeah. I mean he kind 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.240 of threw out a little mystery there, you know, could 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:49.080 there be a fourth guy that they're because one thing 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.920 he said throughout the offseason was there's no pecking order here. 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:53.920 You know, there's a lot of guys on this team. 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.520 We like if if you know, we're not waiting to 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.360 get one deal done to go get another done. I've 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.960 I've had I've had guys tell him me, who do 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.240 these contracts and stuff? You know, they said, listen, there 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.880 is no order. Rob, you made the exact point. There, 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:08.600 there is no order. If you're one of those guys 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.920 that's coming in and willing to deal and and make 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.240 a deal and give us an offer, and we'll make 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.080 a counter offer and if you're willing to work with 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.000 we'll sign you. I don't think it's like the It's 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.800 like the cap guys have been sitting here the whole 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.480 time and just okay, let's twiddle our thumbs and let's 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.040 watch practice and let's not do anything. I mean, their 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:30.400 doors open for business now. Like Mickey would tell you, you 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.800 you got to be realistic with me here, don't you know, 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.200 don't live in fantasyland, you know, live in reality of 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.640 what like Jerry Jones is talking about, Jerry Jones does 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:42.880 not want to go through losing another DeMarcus ware because 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:45.600 he overpaid somebody else. That that is a that is 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.640 a fact, and that is a fact that now you know, 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:51.280 we talk about the things that the Cowboys over the 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.280 years have done. They developed their their their mantra has 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.920 been if you want to say, draft, sign our own, 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.080 where when I was here it was maybe draft well, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.760 but overpay for other people's talent. That that's now in 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.880 the past. Now they're moving to Okay, let's make sure 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.200 that we could take care of all our players and 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.760 still keep our team together without wrecking our salary cap 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.760 and us having to lose players. So that that's a 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:22.320 really salient example. D where like when it happened, was 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.720 that the issue, although he was dealing with a lot 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:30.160 of injuries right at the time back and they decided 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.320 that where his base salary was right, it was a 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:37.920 little bit high for their for their blood, how rich 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.160 it was, and and so they decided to move on. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.040 And I think it was that it was that philosophy, 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.680 let's cut a guy too soon than waiting too late 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.320 and getting a broken down player. And he was he 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.080 had injuries right at that time, but you know, he 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.240 went on and had another year or two that was 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.000 pretty good in Denver, right, So yeah, I don't But 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.480 I think the other part of it was that, you know, 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:06.760 they thought he was physically breaking down and then if 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.480 they paid him that money, it might not have been 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.440 available because of who you know, the Tony Romo contract 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.400 as Brian contract coming up. So there, Yeah, there was 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:19.960 a lot of factors in there. I thought. The interesting 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:23.160 thing is, you know he said, really he goes, you know, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.559 when people said, are you getting worried and nothing's getting done, 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:31.000 and he goes, He basically said, there's there's no leverage 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.720 for either side until the season starts, meaning Zeke and 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:39.320 the Cowboys. He said, because the leverage is, well, he 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.000 could miss games and we won't have them, but our 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:47.480 leverage is he can lose paychecks, game checks and twenty 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.800 four thousand dollars worth of game checks each week. So 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.959 that's the leverage. And now you're sitting there going, I 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.400 don't know if that they're playing chicken, but that's the 0:09:55.520 --> 0:10:00.720 leverage eats, you know, for each side. So he seems 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:04.080 to think, and Jason seems to think that they still 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:08.560 have a really good relationship with Zekiel Elle absolutely, So 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.319 you know, the deal is dealing with the agent and 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.679 what the agent's trying to get. And I guess at 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.200 some point the player can step up and say sort 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.640 of like where I mean not where DeMarcus Lawrence. That's 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.800 I think let's get this done. You and Rob have 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.240 talked about that. You right now, Rob has talked about 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.160 that before that. In order to get this deal done, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:28.840 it maybe takes Steven Jones getting on the phone with 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.600 Ezekiel and saying, listen, this is what I can do 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.320 for you. Can you help me here because I'm trying 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.920 to build and keep a team around you. I'm trying 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.439 to give you one of the best top five offensive 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.760 lines in the in the in the NFL. I'm trying 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.960 to give you a quarterback that we feel like he's 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.000 on the rise. I'm trying to give you a wide 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.520 receiver that's one of the top five in the National 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.680 Football League as well. If you can help me a 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.760 little bit on this, you know, we can work together here. 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.559 And I think I think I think Zeke could be reasonable. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.320 I think Zeke's a prideful guy though too. You know 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.120 he knows this where this team. I mean he's if 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.360 if Zeke was in camp and it was a Maury 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.280 Cooper holding out, I'm sure Stephen Jones would have the 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.920 same thing. Hey, I'm giving you a top five running back. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.600 I'm giving you a quarterback on the rise. I'm giving you, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.480 you know, I mean, yeah, trying to keep players around 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.000 you so you're not going you're not getting beat up 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.319 and losing football games every week. Deadlines do make deals. 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:24.959 DeMarcus Lawrence's deadline, to a certain extent was I should 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.680 shoulder fixed. And if I don't get it fixed in 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.040 the spring, then I'm jeopardizing my season, or at least 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.880 part of it. And we just spoke about Zeke's and 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.240 the Cowboys kind of artificial deadlines. I don't even know 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.360 if they're artificial. It's the fact that there's games coming 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.680 up that matter that will pay Zeke a lot of 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.480 money per week, and the Cowboys and Zeke are trying 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.080 to go win a Super Bowl this year and see, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.960 and you got to remember that those those base salaries, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:52.360 they exist even though you get an extension. It's not 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.920 like you take off the base salaries for this year 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.920 and you take away the base salary. He's guaranteed for 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:02.840 next year. The extension starts after twenty twenty, so when 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.520 you figure out the package, you know, like I've been 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.200 trying to explain to folks, so when a player gets 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.240 an extension, he's on the last year, that base salary 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.600 for this year still counts, but it's next year, then 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.520 it starts, and then it starts next year, so you 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.280 have to factor in if it's a five year deal. Okay, 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.920 what's he getting over six years? Right? Right? What's he 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.560 getting over six this current year? Right? The other year, 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.319 which devalues the average of its twenty million all of 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.520 a sudden, now it's fifteen million. The question for Periscope, 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.840 they want to know, Okay, if Zeke does sign before Dak, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.360 does that affect Dak's negotiations? Are you concerning it two 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:42.920 separate things? You can looking at this as all different 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.640 types of things. Money. Does it affect how much they 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:50.240 can pay them or or does it affect what they want? Yeah? 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.600 I think I think it. The question is how does 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:58.120 that affect negotiations for Dak? I would imagine it might 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.680 speed him up, but I mean it takes money out. Yeah. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:05.240 But but but they they've they've prepared for all three 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.560 of these top guys to be together. Yeah right, yeah, Now, now, 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.240 I mean maybe there's gotta be some wiggle room at 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.439 some point, because you can't just say this is what, well, 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.800 I guess you could just say this I mean if 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.280 I overpay, But if I overpay robbed and does that 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.920 mean I gotta underpay? That's the question. I think that's 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.400 what I think. You don't think that's the way it's 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:25.600 gonna work, Okay, fair enough. I think each guy probably 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.400 knows what, you know, what they need to have, you know. 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:30.240 On the interesting thing I just thought of. You know, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.840 you mentioned DeMarcus Lawrence and they got together. Could that 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.520 have happened a month earlier? Yeah? Like did it? What? 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:40.880 What did it take to get to that point? Because 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.240 he got what seemed like a fair contract right to me, 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.559 I don't know, you know what he thinks. And it 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.680 doesn't look like obviously feel like that. Obviously feels like 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.280 it was a fair deal to him because he signed it. 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:55.160 And what what got it done? He walked in the 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.680 room and talked you say that along, right? And and 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.800 I know this for a fact that if if you're 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:07.720 not just contracts, if you're negotiating a business deal with Jerry, 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.880 if you're walking in the room, you better be prepared 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.600 to get signed or signed the deal because he will 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.200 talk you into it. Yeah, face to face. That's famous 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.680 for when free agents come on official visits. Yeah, it's 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.800 like if they're interested, and you know, if they're coming in, 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:25.840 obviously there's mutual interest. Usually the guy's not leaving without 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.720 a deal, or if it does, it's it's no more 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:29.760 than twenty four hours. You know. It's like, I don't 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.200 know if if Pepsi walks in the room, you know, yeah, 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.600 better be ready to do a deal. Yeah, because he 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:41.160 is that good and engaging when he's in a negotiation. Jerry, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.920 I don't think the forty million report came up, but 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.880 Jerry was asked about Dak reportedly turning down thirty million, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.960 and this is what he said. You don't have any 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:53.560 financial way of knowing, any way of knowing where you 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.320 are financially until a deal is done financially, and so 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.680 you have no idea. It takes two both of us 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.240 haven't said yes. At the same time, he also reiterated 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:05.280 he's not focused on what the market is right and 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:07.200 because there's a lot of talk about, well, there's top 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.600 five offers, you know, for for these guys at their 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.360 respective positions, and he just went on to say, it's 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.440 it's if I'm listening to advice, it's how to get 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:20.360 all these top players under the cap. And so I 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:23.000 don't have the responsibility of dealing with the market. It's 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.239 it's the cap it's under one roof. That's that's continues 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.680 to be the line from Jerry and Stephen. We've got 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.480 to be able to field one through fifty three long term, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.440 a team that can compete. See and from Dak's standpoint, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.240 he knows even if they don't get an extension this year, 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.880 his guaranteed contract under the franchise tag next year is 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:47.040 going to be somewhere close to thirty million. That's true, right, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.800 that's what you're gonna get, true, and it's guaranteed. Now. 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:51.920 Do you want some of that money early? Do you 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.960 not want it all from in front or do you 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:59.920 want to get it week by week? And that's the 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.280 that's the chance you take. And I don't know. I'm 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.480 not a financial expert to know. Again, I would imagine 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.800 his signing bonus is somewhere. If you look at all 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.000 the other signing bonuses have been out there, they're not 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.440 as high as they've been previously. So the signing bonus 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.480 is probably twenty to thirty millions something like that. Do 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.360 you want it all now or do you want to 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.920 work for it? Next year under the franchise tache and 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.920 that's the difference. The other thing Jerry said was he's 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.880 gotten no indication from each camp that they wouldn't be 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.920 willing to negotiate into the season. Yeah, if it came 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.440 to that. So at this point, you know, things can change. 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.480 But that's still a possibility, assuming or if these deals 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:40.240 don't get done in a few weeks. That's in the 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.520 book of sports writing questions. I know you negotiate during 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.400 the season. If somebody was going to give you offered 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.000 you thirty million dollars signing bonus in the season, you're 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.280 going no. No. But that's a fair question. We discussed 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.840 it yesterday and Zack Martin said a couple of years ago, 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.520 I just want to focus on the season. That's fine. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.800 But so what if it didn't get done and they 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.159 gave him the deal he wanted, he wasn't gonna go 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.840 now now we ain't doing this, that one's gonna happen. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.000 It's a fair question to ask. It's a fair question. That's, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.239 like I said, it's in the book the Questions of 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.720 sports right now. Okay, okay, you got to ask that's 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:20.800 a standard question. All right, We've didn't mean to bring 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:22.560 the house down. But no, I'm just look at the 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.439 absolute truth. I'm just trying to take I'm trying to 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.439 take off contract question. I mean, I'm trying to take 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.359 us away from contract. Well, let's take a break and 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.600 then move on to say he talked about a lot 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.919 of other things. That's what we need to get into that. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.280 Let's take our first break and we come back. We'll 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.360 talk about more from Jerry, and I've got some questions 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.000 for you guys, kind of a larger view of training 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:45.480 camp as we wrap up with two practices left in 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:49.679 Oxnard and our final show today. 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So you get six 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.680 in the morning. They're not leaving until three tomorrow. Oh, 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.399 so you could, okay, put it out there the night. 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.280 The way that Fogg has been coming in, you're gonna 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.520 have a wet said Hayes. The last two nights out here, 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.879 it's been kind of has it been purple? No? No, okay, 0:21:15.960 --> 0:21:20.280 hazy though, hazy foggy all right, Uh, what's a periscope cooking? 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.440 Like Brian? What you got? Well, they're they're asking questions 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.280 about uh really, they're they're they're interested. They appreciate the 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.560